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Speaker 3: What's going on Steelers Nation Radio? And welcome to the

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Speaker 3: practice number four of OTA's for your Pittsburgh Steelers live

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Speaker 3: special edition of the Drive because this is not the

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Speaker 3: start this highly rated program. Dale is here, Matt is here.

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Speaker 3: I am Wes Shuler. We got CJ Engineering on site

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Speaker 1: So it's a little little store today. It sounds like.

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Speaker 3: He is not a south Park character. He's not a

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Speaker 3: Well, that's exactly right. We'll just we'll just have them

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Speaker 1: I would imagine. I mean here again, I always am

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, you know. I mean again, it's taking what I

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Speaker 4: Based on what they're doing. This is what we worked

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Speaker 1: And an example I have of that though is, and

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Speaker 4: And it's time to change.

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Speaker 1: you if you give us goal line.

436
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Speaker 3: Right, we'll do this if you do that, Yeah, yeah,

437
00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:02,760
Speaker 3: absolutely exactly.

438
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Speaker 1: You know, ones versus ones, all right, I'm cool with that.

439
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:06,800
Speaker 1: You know, we're in a game. You don't know how

440
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,040
Speaker 1: it's going to go. And you know, frankly, half of

441
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Speaker 1: the preseason games again, if you play the Bengals, you're

442
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,600
Speaker 1: playing your ones against their fours, And what did you

443
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Speaker 1: really learn? You know what I mean?

444
00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:19,800
Speaker 3: Right? And I got to think too, just to even

445
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Speaker 3: step further that you do a great job of outlining

446
00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,439
Speaker 3: how you can really work on situations that you're not

447
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 3: guaranteed you're going to present themselves organically throughout the course

448
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Speaker 3: of a sixty minute preseason game.

449
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,399
Speaker 1: To twenty snaps of third and eight whatever it is.

450
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Speaker 3: I also imagine too, then, like where my mind goes

451
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:42,919
Speaker 3: is it's it's it's easier to truly be who you

452
00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,280
Speaker 3: are because you know, you're not putting that out on

453
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Speaker 3: film in the preseason for thirty other NFL teams to see.

454
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Speaker 3: It's just one. It's just one team in this setting.

455
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Speaker 1: And often they're not on your schedule and they're never

456
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Speaker 1: in the division, right, you know, So, yes, that's one

457
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Speaker 1: hundred percent true. Is people want to the coaches, play callers,

458
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,399
Speaker 1: play designers want to be very vanilla often in the

459
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Speaker 1: preseason if they're holding something back. But if you're holding

460
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Speaker 1: something back, you didn't practice it.

461
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Speaker 3: Particularly that doesn't know what's coming.

462
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Speaker 1: Exactly exactly, you know. So there's a lot to be

463
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Speaker 1: had for that. And to Dale's point, I mean, I

464
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Speaker 1: absolutely think there is a day coming real soon. Two

465
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Speaker 1: preseason games, two preseason games, eighteen regular season games, two

466
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Speaker 1: buys inevitable, inevitable, and therefore more group practices.

467
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that, you know, maybe you just do it.

468
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Speaker 4: It just becomes something that naturally happens, like it's just

469
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Speaker 4: part of the schedule.

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you you put it in these days or whatever.

471
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Speaker 4: We're gonna go there two days early and practice against

472
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Speaker 4: them twice.

473
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Speaker 3: And then play them on Saturday or Sunday or whatever

474
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Speaker 3: the case might be.

475
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Speaker 1: Just geographically, though, I'm a little shocked that's Tampa. I mean,

476
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Speaker 1: that's a flight. Correct me if I'm wrong. But I

477
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Speaker 1: remember when Detroit was here with like staffer than Onsa.

478
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Speaker 1: It was those about that time. I think they drove

479
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Speaker 1: here for the most part, Well maybe.

480
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Speaker 4: They flew, they think drove okay, yeah.

481
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Speaker 1: Or if you were to do Washington, I mean, unfortunately

482
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Speaker 1: most of the teams closer in the division.

483
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Speaker 3: Right so, or maybe Buffalo, who's still in the AFC,

484
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Speaker 3: But yeah, Washington, Washington or Philly would probably be the

485
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Speaker 3: closest ones that weren't.

486
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Speaker 4: Well thank you, you know, with with fewer preseason games. I

487
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Speaker 4: don't know the teams necessarily care. Hey, we're gonna put

488
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Speaker 4: up the team two days et, Yeah, in a hotel.

489
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Speaker 1: Because it's worth I'm getting good practice.

490
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Speaker 3: Right right, Yeah, And it's still way cheaper than sending

491
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Speaker 3: our entire operation somewhere for you know, for thirty six hours.

492
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Speaker 1: You're not moving the weight room and things like that

493
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Speaker 1: that they do the trope.

494
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Speaker 3: Right, and the Steelers will go to Tampa Bay for

495
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Speaker 3: a preseason game on August sixteenth, So it sounds sounds

496
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Speaker 3: like it will be in their place according to this

497
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Speaker 3: this this Pro Football we're going to article as well too. Yes,

498
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Speaker 3: you guys right, Yeah, that's exactly. Hey, maybe the maybe

499
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Speaker 3: let's send me down a couple of days early and

500
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Speaker 3: an engineer for you guys down there while you're while

501
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,880
Speaker 3: you're doing the show speed up. But then that that

502
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:12,360
Speaker 3: gets there's a sight for sore eyes.

503
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Speaker 4: Wait, wait, my voice is better. The shock.

504
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Speaker 3: Shock to your system. That's like a cold plunge right

505
00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 3: there to your system. More so, like we were talking

506
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Speaker 3: about to that might even be a benefit of Okay,

507
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Speaker 3: so the Steelers will be there August sixteenth for a

508
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Speaker 3: preseason game. Say they go down the thirteenth and have

509
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Speaker 3: two practices.

510
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Speaker 1: That's how the Bills one worked basically, right, he just

511
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Speaker 1: kind of hung out with them for three or four days.

512
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Speaker 1: But this is learned to kind of hate them too.

513
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Speaker 3: Oh absolutely, some of that animal and in the heat

514
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Speaker 3: that animals builds.

515
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Speaker 1: Up three game hockey series.

516
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 3: Yeah right. Also going down there and having those practices

517
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Speaker 3: in the middle of August at Tampa Bay. That gets

518
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Speaker 3: back through some of that. You know, you could be

519
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 3: down there for a game in Jacksonville a week later,

520
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Speaker 3: a few days later, right back for a couple of practices.

521
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Speaker 1: That sounds writer tomlins Valley. Yeah, absolutely, go to Tampa.

522
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Speaker 3: Sorry, the Bucks are here. No, I'm wrong, I'm doing

523
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: the box here there Jacksonville, Carolina. You're right. Sorry, So

524
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Speaker 3: it would be so, it would be so, it would

525
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Speaker 3: likely so it would likely be up here. I'm sorry.

526
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Speaker 3: I was totally the whole time I was say it,

527
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Speaker 3: I was like, wait a second, because.

528
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Speaker 4: They're not going to players like that's just a hey,

529
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Speaker 4: let's get eat.

530
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Speaker 3: Yeah, probably why they would like it too. Let's go

531
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Speaker 3: up north where it's hot, but it's not but it's

532
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Speaker 3: not hot. Maybe we'll even get rained for a day

533
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Speaker 3: up there and it's not hell hot Africa and in

534
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Speaker 3: western and western Pennsylvania. That's interesting, though, Matt is we

535
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Speaker 3: kind of continue and you know, we got we got

536
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Speaker 3: plenty of time to discuss these things.

537
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Speaker 1: I hope they come here, and I mean, that's that makes.

538
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Speaker 3: Awesome and it would be dropt. It would be fun

539
00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,720
Speaker 3: things for us to watch and talk about. Correct, which

540
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Speaker 3: similar thing last year against the Bills, and tho was

541
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Speaker 3: it two practices at Atrocer Stadium against the Bills last year?

542
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Speaker 4: Yes?

543
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Speaker 1: Too, Yeah, I believe.

544
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Speaker 3: I believe so as well.

545
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Speaker 1: A lot got done, absolutely, and Josh Allen actually plays

546
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: you know right.

547
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Speaker 3: Right, and I and I remember, you know, they're kind

548
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Speaker 3: of being a clear onus of make sure that we're

549
00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: being careful of what we're discussing because a lot of

550
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: that stuff is meant to be kept private as opposed

551
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Speaker 3: to your regular open to the public training camp practice.

552
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Speaker 1: And real quick like on the Bills, for example, maybe

553
00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 1: they're not on the schedule, but you're like, well there's

554
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Speaker 1: a good chance we're going to seeing the playoffs.

555
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 3: That's still like four months, that's right, different by then

556
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Speaker 3: their personnelity start.

557
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Speaker 1: I mean, who know, I mean it's a long way away.

558
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Speaker 1: I mean you're probably not divulging all that much. You know,

559
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,360
Speaker 1: one thing that the head coaches know each other well.

560
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Speaker 3: Right right right? One thing that intrigues me, uh in

561
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Speaker 3: this conversation too. And I know this isn't specific to

562
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Speaker 3: the Steelers, but I think it still bears asking Bucks now.

563
00:25:45,560 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean, according to Todd Bowles and these reports will

564
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Speaker 3: have joint practices in training camp with two of their

565
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Speaker 3: preseason opponents. Do you remember that being a thing in

566
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Speaker 3: the past, and that maybe even if we, you know,

567
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Speaker 3: sooner rather and later, get into this era of just

568
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,960
Speaker 3: two preseason games.

569
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Speaker 1: Oh, that's a good call that.

570
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Speaker 3: We start seeing the Steelers doing this, you know, regular

571
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Speaker 3: for NFL teams to have joint practices with two different

572
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Speaker 3: teams throughout the trachea.

573
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Speaker 1: First I've ever thought of that. It was a great thought,

574
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Speaker 1: and I like it. You know, like maybe the road

575
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Speaker 1: team comes three days early for every preseason game period

576
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Speaker 1: going going forward, and just hangs out in that city

577
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: at their training facilities for a couple of days, do

578
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Speaker 1: what they do in the preseason game, and then I mean,

579
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Speaker 1: that's a lot of good work. You could get done twice,

580
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,640
Speaker 1: you know, and really hit it hard, you know, I mean,

581
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:38,400
Speaker 1: that would make a lot of sense. You could really

582
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 1: ration out your snaps of you know, the Browns are

583
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 1: a great example. They're trying to get four quarterbacks ready, Well,

584
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 1: I could do it a lot easier in those three days,

585
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Speaker 1: those three practice times two practices in a preseason game.

586
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Speaker 1: Then I can against my own team.

587
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Speaker 3: You know, Tail, you remember much of two joint two

588
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 3: separate teams joint practices in an offset. You think that

589
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:01,960
Speaker 3: this could be something we see more of.

590
00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:03,800
Speaker 1: It's probably happened that.

591
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,400
Speaker 3: I'm sure it has not in my recent memory.

592
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: And it's not a regular thing like where it's made

593
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:11,360
Speaker 1: right soon.

594
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the Steelers used to practice against Washington

595
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Speaker 4: every year. They practiced against the Bills for a while

596
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 4: every year as well. Buffalo I think was at Edinburgh

597
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 4: at the time.

598
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Speaker 1: But you don't remember two in the same preseason though

599
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: for this.

600
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Speaker 4: Team, right, never for this team?

601
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, that'll that'll be interesting. That'll be

602
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 3: something to keep an eye on. And yeah, I think

603
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 3: I think that's one of those kind of evolution of

604
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 3: the whole offseason process things to keep an eye on

605
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:39,520
Speaker 3: as as we roll up.

606
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Speaker 1: Very well, could be in the cards. That makes a

607
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: lot of sense.

608
00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:43,480
Speaker 3: But yeah, if you're joining us late to this conversation,

609
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Speaker 3: Tampa Bay Buccaneers Todd Bowles, their head coach, telling the

610
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Speaker 3: media on the Pewter Report podcast actually yesterday that the

611
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Speaker 3: Buccaneers are finalizing plans to participate in joint practices with

612
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Speaker 3: both the Tennessee Titans and your Pittsburgh Steelers. During training camp.

613
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Speaker 3: Of course, the Bucks scheduled to be in Pittsburgh for

614
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Speaker 3: that preseason game on August sixteenth, So can we see

615
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: them in town here a few days early, certainly seems

616
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Speaker 3: like a strong possibility. West Ruler dal Lallie. Matt Williamson

617
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: with you here as we are now into another phase

618
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Speaker 3: of practice on the far side of the field, Matthew,

619
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,160
Speaker 3: which always makes things a little more difficult to kind

620
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Speaker 3: of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I bring that up a lot, like when they

622
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:26,840
Speaker 1: go here field too. It's pretty tough from where we're

623
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Speaker 1: at and we can't report on what they're doing anyways.

624
00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,719
Speaker 1: But still there's not a lot of there's a lot

625
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Speaker 1: of stretching still going on. It's not the group stretch,

626
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Speaker 1: but I mean they're not doing a ton, but they

627
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: will use both these fields. You know, there's something to day.

628
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Speaker 1: And I were talking about last week too. Anyway, the

629
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Speaker 1: day you missed was the real bad weather.

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Speaker 4: Day and thanks for that.

631
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. There's just so much.

632
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Speaker 3: CJ brings the sunshine, I leave the rain, just.

633
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 1: So much more space on the two fields to put

634
00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: all these human beings than in the indoor too. It's

635
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Speaker 1: like that has a lot to do with it like

636
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:01,960
Speaker 1: you're really cramming.

637
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,240
Speaker 3: There's even some pit guys over on the far field

638
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 3: doing some cardio taking your parking. Yeah, it is. Uh,

639
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: it is always a little bit of a jungle out there.

640
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 3: So you've got Steelers stuff going on here, large roster,

641
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 3: a lot of people involved, college coaches here, NFL referees here,

642
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,440
Speaker 3: and then you've got the pit program doing workouts as

643
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: well too. Parking spaces at a premium mark. I Matthew

644
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 3: may or may not have had to do some walking

645
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: down here on the south side.

646
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I won't tell people I park.

647
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right, because then all of a sudden you

648
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 3: won't be able to find any parking there either. But

649
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 3: it is a beautiful day, a sunny, clear day down

650
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 3: here for day number four of OTA's energy, a lot

651
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 3: of a lot of energy, a lot of smiles, I think,

652
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 3: in the sunshine. For those of you who might not

653
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 3: be familiar with this as well too. When practice ends

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Speaker 3: shortly after noon, we will be joined by a Steelers

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Speaker 3: player right here as well.

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Speaker 1: Mm hm, some good ones. Janny Benton was wonderful.

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Speaker 3: Was great, excellent, Yeah as well too.

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Speaker 1: So haven't seen this week's list, but We'll always have

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Speaker 1: a great chat with those guys. One thing about the weather.

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Speaker 1: And I don't know that this is super these guys

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Speaker 1: are professionals, but I do think you want this three weeks,

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Speaker 1: these nine practices to be very upbeat, very positive. If

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Speaker 1: it's dreary and nasty for all nine of them, it's

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Speaker 1: a little bit harder for that to happen.

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Speaker 3: Said, like, everyone's that way, right.

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Speaker 4: I think that's part of the reason why Thursday's practice

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Speaker 4: last week was so upbeat, because they had practiced in

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Speaker 4: the rain on Wednesdays. Everybody's like, well, it's not that

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Speaker 4: better than yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, No, that makes sense, And I think that's

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Speaker 3: one of those things everybody can relate to in their life, right.

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Speaker 3: You're just in a better mood going to work if

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Speaker 3: it's sunny and nice out as opposed to crappy and

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Speaker 3: rainy or snowy windy, just puts a different pep into

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Speaker 3: your step. But again, particularly when it's been a few

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Speaker 3: straight weeks if not the best.

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Speaker 1: Weather, the OTAs aren't about grinding the players. And I mean,

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Speaker 1: I'm sure even like Belichick and the biggest hard nosed

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Speaker 1: dudes in recent memory weren't grinding and killing these guys

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Speaker 1: at OTAs. I mean, I think it's an upbeat, positive

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Speaker 1: experience type thing, you.

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Speaker 3: Know, trying to reinforce what you're working on with them,

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Speaker 3: trying to get them, you know.

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Speaker 1: Get them more and more camaraderie.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, build them up a little bit as a positive

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Speaker 3: to try and kind of cutting them down.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, a lot of these people meeting them one

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Speaker 1: another really for the first time too, and spend in

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Speaker 1: real time with their.

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Speaker 3: Teammates, speaking the same language, getting on the same page,

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Speaker 3: learning names. All of those different things certainly involved as

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Speaker 3: well too. That'll do it for the second segment of

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Speaker 3: the first hour here, We've got to get to another

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Speaker 3: break more of the moving and shaking around practice. We've

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Speaker 3: also got some news about a pretty notable name offensive

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Speaker 3: playmaker who Adam Schefter is saying could be here with

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Speaker 3: the Steelers tomorrow. We'll get into all those different things

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Speaker 3: as we roll along West Shuler, Dale Lolly, Matt Williamson

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Speaker 3: here on the South Side for week number two of OTAs.

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Speaker 3: It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

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Speaker 3: Audio Network.

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Speaker 2: At least he's the drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 2: On your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 2: and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 3: Back on the drive here from the south side of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 3: It is OTAs it is June. The sun is shining.

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Speaker 3: We got football happening West Ruler Dale, Lollie, Matt Williamson.

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Speaker 3: Where would you rather be than right here right now?

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Speaker 3: As we are getting well underway into practice?

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Speaker 4: I'm sorry I staw.

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Speaker 3: That from the Buffalo Bills, right? Is it the Bills

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Speaker 3: that's that they have the guy the announcer who says

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Speaker 3: that before the games? Where else would you rather be

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Speaker 3: than right here right now? Well, speaking of a former

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Speaker 3: Buffalo Bill, you see what I did there? D pretty good?

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Speaker 1: That's really well done.

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Speaker 3: Gabe Davis. Obviously A has been throughout his career at

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Speaker 3: times an explosive wide receiver. We have had a lot

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Speaker 3: of conversation about this offense adding another playmaker, I think

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Speaker 3: not necessarily only at wide receiver, but that's been certainly

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Speaker 3: the position.

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Speaker 1: Group since the pick tradre's a little left to be

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Speaker 1: desired highlightedigh yes, highlighted the most Adam Schefter tweeting out,

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Speaker 1: oh what a little over an hour here ago?

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Speaker 3: Gentlemen that former Bills and Jaguars wide receiver gave Davis

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Speaker 3: scheduled to travel to Pittsburgh on Wednesday to visit with

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Speaker 3: the Steelers on Thursday, and he adding there because I

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Speaker 3: know this is the first time we've all done a show,

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Speaker 3: I believe since his report or he put out the

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Speaker 3: tweet about John new Smith as well too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that happened since on Friday.

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Speaker 3: Or Thursday evening schefter following up saying that the team

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Speaker 3: is not expected to trade for John new Smith. I

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Speaker 3: think a lot of us thought that that was he's

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Speaker 3: a guy looking for a new contract. He also has

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Speaker 3: Drew Rosenhouse, who's kind of a master of spending the

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Speaker 3: media narrative and getting his clients in a in a

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Speaker 3: position of leverage. But he gave Davis coming here for

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Speaker 3: a visit feels real tangible. Sorry, mat wherever you go

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Speaker 3: you want to go with that, well, I.

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Speaker 1: Want to start with Johnny real quick. I mean it

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Speaker 1: makes sense in terms of the Arthur Smith connection. Five

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Speaker 1: years with them, right, I mean he followed him from Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: or from Tennessee to Atlanta, had a really good year

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Speaker 1: with the Falcons, then goes to Miami, has a really,

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Speaker 1: really good year, and he's definitely much more of a

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Speaker 1: receiver than blockers.

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Speaker 3: So if you're just looking almost nine hundred eighty eight

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Speaker 3: receptions and almost nine hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: Put a guy, you know. And so if you're just

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Speaker 1: looking for past catchers, it half added up. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do they need another tight end? No? You know, so

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Speaker 1: the fact that Dale knows for you know it's going

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Speaker 1: to be it's not in the works. Yes, it didn't

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Speaker 1: shock me one bit. Yeah, but I could see why

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Speaker 1: they would use the Steelers for their purposes, you know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and Drew Rosenes is probably looking at it

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Speaker 3: too and looking at Pat Fireman's contract and thinking that's

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Speaker 3: that's what I went from my client as well.

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Speaker 1: And it's a team that used a ton of two

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Speaker 1: and three tight end sets, you know, so they would

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Speaker 1: use them. But still Gabe Davis, So I'll just be honest,

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Speaker 1: I thought for a lot of his career he was

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Speaker 1: a smidge overrated, did some big things against the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: and remember that that's not his normal game, folks. He

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Speaker 1: doesn't do that every week and end up with thirty

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Speaker 1: touchdowns every year. And then the Jags, as they so

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Speaker 1: often do, signed them to a bad contract, and no

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Speaker 1: team in the league is better at signing a bad

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Speaker 1: contract and cutting that.

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Speaker 3: Player player great money, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they've Christian Kirk, there's twenty or thirty examples

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Speaker 1: in the last three or four years. And then so

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Speaker 1: they trade up for Hunter and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver room's pretty packed. They also Parker Washington,

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Speaker 1: who Penn State fans might remember. He's a nice developmental three.

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Speaker 1: With Hunter and Thomas, they might be they may end

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Speaker 1: up being the best wide receiaer pay in the league.

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Speaker 1: And they're there. They have a chance to be exceptional.

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Speaker 1: So they're excited about those guys. New staff realize the

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Speaker 1: Davis contract isn't a good one, so he's been on

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Speaker 1: the open market a little after the draft after they

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Speaker 1: landed Hunter. The type of player he is is useful

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Speaker 1: for what the Steelers need right now. I mean he's

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Speaker 1: down the field, down the field, he's size, speed, strength,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's gonna look the part out here. He's

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Speaker 1: well built, He's very fast in a straight line. He's

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Speaker 1: not a great technician. Keenan, Allen Nickel and Dimy to death.

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Speaker 1: You know, short intermediate routes over and over. Doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't help in that regard. But he's free. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't cost you anything, and other than a contract,

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Speaker 1: and probably for him, you'd give him some sort of

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Speaker 1: signing bonus, you know, and more or less guarantee him

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Speaker 1: a roster spot. I would think he has that type

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Speaker 1: of power at this point.

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Speaker 3: But all in all, he's still gonna turn twenty six

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Speaker 3: this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, he still would be a pro addition, you know.

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Speaker 1: And he's a downfield guy, not as good as pickings,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, of course, but he would be useful.

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Speaker 1: I got no problem with that in him. And that

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean you'd be done even you know who knows.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think you at the very least

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Speaker 4: she kicked the tires on it because he's available.

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Speaker 3: For a visit. That doesn't cost it, don't cost you nothing,

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Speaker 3: right right, right.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't mean you necessarily are going to sign him, but

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Speaker 4: you at least take a look because he's available.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Again, he doesn't cost me a draft pick. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you know they got cap money. That's that's not really

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Speaker 1: a prohibitive factor. He's an NFL player, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: an ideal world I think he's your third best receiver.

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Speaker 1: It'd probably be competing here right this minute to be

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Speaker 1: your second best. Yeah. But right, I mean you're throwing

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Speaker 1: a lot of bodies at the problem.

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Speaker 4: I mean Jacksonan gave him a ton of money last year.

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Speaker 3: Lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, too much. But yeah, still he was

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Speaker 1: I mean, it means he was desirable just one year.

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Speaker 3: I mean, right, he had yearly throw he had nearly

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Speaker 3: eight hundred you had seven hundred fifty yards and seven

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Speaker 3: touchdowns his last year in Buffalo. Okay, yeah, so yeah,

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Speaker 3: you're you're absolutely coming off of an eight hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty yards seven touchdown season before that in Buffalo. So

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Speaker 3: he'd had two, you know, fourteen touchdowns and fifteen hundred

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Speaker 3: and sixteen hundred yards over those last year two years

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Speaker 3: in Buffalo. And as you mentioned Stefan Diggs, Josh Allen,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he wasn't the one driving that bus, but

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Speaker 3: he was certainly he was a piece of the puzzle,

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Speaker 3: a positive contributor. And now, listen, we've seen guys injuries,

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Speaker 3: not wrong scheme, fit, all these different things. They can

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Speaker 3: have a down year somewhere and bounce back for a

833
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Speaker 3: million different reasons.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he shows football ahead of him.

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Speaker 3: Right, yeah, So the next kind of I think thing

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Speaker 3: that I that I got to ask. Let's say he

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Speaker 3: comes in, he comes in here tomorrow to meet with

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Speaker 3: the team Thursday, things end up going well sometime Friday, Saturday, Monday, whatever,

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Speaker 3: the news breaks that, you know, the Steelers and Gave

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Speaker 3: Davis are going to be agreeing to terms. Where would

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Speaker 3: you feel what would kind of be your your your

842
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Speaker 3: heat check of the wide receiver room at that point?

843
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Speaker 3: Would you feel good taking that group to camp or

844
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Speaker 3: would you still continue to be shopping around?

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Speaker 1: Well, you have a one in Metcalf, you have Johnson, Wilson.

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Speaker 3: Woods, Austin, Kevin Austin.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, who'd I miss?

848
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Speaker 3: You?

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Speaker 1: Said, Austin Wilson, Austin, Wilson, Woods, Woods, and then Davis

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Speaker 1: and Davis And I would hope that you're still open

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Speaker 1: to adding another, which makes it really crowded and you're

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Speaker 1: not going to keep six or seven. But I don't

853
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Speaker 1: want to so I don't know how to phrase this.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to settle for Dave Davis and be like, Okay,

855
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Speaker 1: all problems are done, but it's he'd have been really

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Speaker 1: useful last year. You know what I mean, like, it's

857
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Speaker 1: still better than better than yeah, right, you know, Wilson

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Speaker 1: in year two, Austin a year in advance, I'll still

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Speaker 1: take Metcalf slightly over Pickens. And I don't know what

860
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Speaker 1: to think of Woods. He might be shot, he might

861
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Speaker 1: be the better in the room, he might be useful

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Speaker 1: on third downs. I don't really know what to think

863
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Speaker 1: of him, good or bad. And then you throw Gave

864
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Speaker 1: Davis in the mix. It's better than last year. It's

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Speaker 1: not as good as Pickings mecaf it was a month ago, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, I mean that's just didn't they knew that

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Speaker 4: when they made the trade. You know, they were going

868
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Speaker 4: to have to figure something out there. This would be

869
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 4: potentially part of figuring that out. And you know, a

870
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 4: lot of Gave Davis. I don't think at this point

871
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 4: in his career is a finished product yet, right, I

872
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 4: think there's still untill twenty five years old, he can

873
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 4: still get better. And that's the key.

874
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 1: No, there's ability there too. So again, signing him doesn't

875
00:40:46,600 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 1: it shouldn't prohibit move number two. Right, doesn't mean you

876
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: have to make.

877
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 3: But it gives you. I think it gives you much

878
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 3: high higher floor if there's not, if there's not an

879
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: additional bi.

880
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 1: Right, we're right. I mean, you take these guys to camp,

881
00:40:57,480 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 1: and what if somebody get hurt early or something.

882
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:02,560
Speaker 3: We're not having the you know, cranked up to ten,

883
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: well maybe even to eleven conversation about you know, a

884
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 3: Brandon Ayuk or Adebo Samuel or a Davonte add after

885
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 3: you know, you got to add one of these guys

886
00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: as well. I do believe Dale, They're not.

887
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: Gonna play a lot of three receiver sets no matter what.

888
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 3: Correct. I mean that not much, we do know, correct,

889
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 3: And I do think as well too, like you want

890
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 3: to you want to be able to add where you

891
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: can without giving up draft capital. I think that's an

892
00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 3: beauty of it, right, Like I saw a lot of

893
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,280
Speaker 3: people in the wake of you know, the the Adam

894
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: Schefter tweet. Again, I can't remember if it was Thursday

895
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:37,479
Speaker 3: night or Friday when that John new Smith tweet came

896
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,399
Speaker 3: out about what would you give up for? L right,

897
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 3: what you give a six round pick form would you

898
00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 3: give a fifth round pick for? And what it might

899
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 3: be that you don't have to have that conversation with

900
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: a guy.

901
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: Like game, all those cards in your hand.

902
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: Which I think this time of year when you want

903
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 3: to have all those cards in your hand, when you

904
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 3: just gave up a couple of those cards last year

905
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 3: to to go get DK Metcalf, like, you don't want

906
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: to find yourself already kind of behind. And we know

907
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,840
Speaker 3: they're going to get good comp pics next year and

908
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,960
Speaker 3: all these things. But at the same time, too, you

909
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,360
Speaker 3: would like to you know, I think you prefer adding

910
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: a guy that you don't have to compensate in terms

911
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: of draft capital as well.

912
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 4: The other thing is now is we're in June and

913
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,360
Speaker 4: there could be more guys being.

914
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: Absolutely That's what I was gonna say too, is you're

915
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: still certainly a potential landing spot for someone that gets

916
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: cut or someone that's had, you know, holding out with

917
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:32,839
Speaker 1: contract negotiations, or even into the season the first five

918
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: six weeks go pretty well. There's always, always, always, always

919
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: wide receivers. It's the trade deadline. If your season is

920
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:42,000
Speaker 1: not going well, you don't go get one. If your

921
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: season is going well, throw some team a fifth round pick, sure, whatever,

922
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,800
Speaker 1: because you're going to have them, you know. So again

923
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: it's a fluid situation. And if you go into the

924
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: season with the guys that are here right now, and Davis,

925
00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 1: you're a lot.

926
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 3: More comfortable than Oh, absolutely you are.

927
00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: I mean it gives him a conferent for sure.

928
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: I think it gives you more comfort than you know,

929
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: than we have right now. I think, yeah, you could

930
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,359
Speaker 3: argue too, like you mentioned, with kind of DK being

931
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 3: a more proven commodity than Pickens, feeling even a little

932
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,880
Speaker 3: bit better than you were this time last year as

933
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 3: well to last one.

934
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be super comfortable with the current rostered wide.

935
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: Receivers right It would feel a lot like it would

936
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,399
Speaker 3: feel a lot like last year again with with DK

937
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: being a bit not a bit, a more proven commodity

938
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: as you're one, but a lot of the same questions behind.

939
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 1: It because goes fact, what if what if?

940
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 3: What if he misses two games or you know, just

941
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 3: even though seasons a second half in December and a

942
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 3: crucial you know, AFC North matchup.

943
00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: You can't be in that situation again, No.

944
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,440
Speaker 3: You cannot. And and I and I think that they

945
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:47,400
Speaker 3: are cognizant of that. Certainly you touched on it.

946
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,000
Speaker 1: Clearly their ears are open for the wide receivers one

947
00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: hundred percent.

948
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 3: I don't think. I don't think that's I don't think

949
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 3: that's the secret to anybody here around the NFL world.

950
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: And I think you know a guy like Davis that's

951
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:04,319
Speaker 4: kind of Mark Davis Bryant, like give you that all right,

952
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 4: just go oh yeah, yeah.

953
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,919
Speaker 3: He makes room for others six three, but can move

954
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 3: and get down the field. So that was the last

955
00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 3: one I wanted to ask you, Matt. You touched on

956
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 3: this a little bit, but his specific fit for what

957
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:18,520
Speaker 3: Arthur Smith wants to do.

958
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 1: A lot of outside the number go balls And I

959
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: know people are like, we've seen a lot of that stuff,

960
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: but it's still important and they do want to throw

961
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: deep rogers as a deep passer, a lot of stuff

962
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 1: off play action. But to me, Matt Harmon calls it

963
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 1: the sacrificial X, which I get a kick out of,

964
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: which means he's sacrificing himself for the team.

965
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: He's stretching the field, stretching.

966
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: The field and if he can get two people to

967
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: go with him. And then Metcalf comes on a dig underneath,

968
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, there's a lot more room to operate,

969
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: keep people out of the box. Things like that too.

970
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 3: That room for Calvin Austin in the slot.

971
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, And Wilson's a big inbreaking route guy too

972
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: as well. Over the middle, I definitely would. I'll be

973
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 1: shocked if they don't throw over the middle more, which

974
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:05,640
Speaker 1: is more of a quarterback thing than a coordinator thing.

975
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 1: I mean, Arthur Smith wants to use the middle of

976
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 1: the field, Russell Wilson did, Rogers will assuming he's here,

977
00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 1: Rudolph will, but again, he'd be useful. He's on a

978
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 1: game changer, you know, and maybe he's a four or

979
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: five targeted game guy something like that. But a pretty

980
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,760
Speaker 1: deep average step of the target.

981
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and that's the that's the thing too,

982
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,200
Speaker 3: that is kind of not kind of just very exciting

983
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,800
Speaker 3: when you look at his average yards per reception throughout

984
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,280
Speaker 3: his career.

985
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:34,919
Speaker 1: Sure, it's high.

986
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,600
Speaker 3: Last year was his lowest by far, and it was

987
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 3: still twelve yards. No, but I mean in Buffalo's seventeen

988
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,440
Speaker 3: point one, fifteen point seven, seventeen point four, sixteen point six.

989
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,760
Speaker 1: So you're looking for explosives and he's still.

990
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,840
Speaker 3: Provides, giving him five targets a game, and he's getting

991
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 3: you know, three receptions for forty five fifty yards. I

992
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:55,000
Speaker 3: think you would sign up for that again.

993
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:56,640
Speaker 1: Not just seven touchdowns for of course of the year.

994
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 3: You know, maybe not as all of a sudden it's

995
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,319
Speaker 3: changing your your ultimate ceiling for what this team could be,

996
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 3: but you certainly feel better about that floor that you know,

997
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 3: double digit wins in a playoff spot and maybe contending

998
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,319
Speaker 3: for a division title and all those things down the

999
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:12,720
Speaker 3: stretch in December. That is the first hour of the books.

1000
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 3: I do want to continue because again, I mean, we

1001
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 3: got nothing but time.

1002
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,960
Speaker 1: Here, Jerry, Yeah.

1003
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,000
Speaker 3: For our number two a little bit, I want to

1004
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 3: get a little dorky with you guys, if you'll allow,

1005
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 3: and what exactly Arthur Smith wants to build this offense

1006
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,880
Speaker 3: to be versus what he inherited and what they've added,

1007
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:33,040
Speaker 3: if that makes sense, kind of the merging of the

1008
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,319
Speaker 3: personnel versus the philosophy in the middle ground in there

1009
00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:39,160
Speaker 3: and how that might be moving in year number two.

1010
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 3: Let's get into that in our number two West Schuler Dale, Lollie,

1011
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: Matt Williamson. We've got two more hours to go here.

1012
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 3: Practice number four of OTA is kicking off the second

1013
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 3: week on a beautiful day from the south side of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

1014
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,000
Speaker 3: Don't you dare go anywhere. It's all happening right here

1015
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Speaker 3: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network