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<v Speaker 1>From the heart where innovation, money and power Collie in

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<v Speaker 1>Silicon Valley, NBN. This is Bloomberg Technology with Caroline Hyde

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<v Speaker 1>and Ed Ludlow.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Caroline Heinder Bloomberg's weltad quarters in New.

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<v Speaker 3>York, and I'm Ed Ludlow in San Francisco. This is

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<v Speaker 3>Bloomberg Technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Coming up. We push our head to Apple's results after

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<v Speaker 2>the bell.

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<v Speaker 4>This is investors anxiously await iPhone sales numbers.

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<v Speaker 5>US.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll sit down with the CEO of qualcom Is the

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<v Speaker 3>chip maker, offers an upbeat forecast.

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<v Speaker 4>And the CFO of door Dash joins us to run

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<v Speaker 4>through the company's latest results.

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<v Speaker 2>All that and so much more coming up.

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<v Speaker 4>There is a wealth of micro data of company news today.

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<v Speaker 2>That we're going to be digging into.

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<v Speaker 4>Not to mention New York based Peloton, but I'm looking

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<v Speaker 4>at what's happening on a broad index today.

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<v Speaker 5>Ed.

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<v Speaker 4>We're seeing the nasdak cup seven tenths of a percent

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<v Speaker 4>post the FED. We're relieved that we're not going to

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<v Speaker 4>see rate hikes coming, but certainly still no signal over

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<v Speaker 4>those rate cuts as we still see a resilient US

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<v Speaker 4>overall jobs picture, which we get the detail of come Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes there's a calling.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe the slowest increase in jobs since November, but still resilient.

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<v Speaker 4>We're seeing a ten year yield just down one basis point.

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<v Speaker 4>A little bit of movement into the mode market on

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<v Speaker 4>the day post fed as we anticipate the jobs data

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<v Speaker 4>and Bluemberg dollar index actually weaker as we see a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of a relief there. We're down by four

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<v Speaker 4>tenths of a percent. What therefore is bitcoin doing the

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<v Speaker 4>versus the US dollar. Let's move it on and have

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<v Speaker 4>a little look that we're up three percent, so a

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<v Speaker 4>little bit of a risk on kind of a trade today,

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<v Speaker 4>but still sub that sixty thousand dollars level. But ed,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you watching on this corporate news front?

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start with Peloton, an absolutely wild morning session in

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<v Speaker 3>the market. So far CEO Barry McCarthy is going to

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<v Speaker 3>step down the board. We'll find a new CEO. Fifteen

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<v Speaker 3>percent of global headcount going to be cut. The story overall,

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<v Speaker 3>things are not getting better for Peloton. Look at the

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<v Speaker 3>chart two day chart to illustrate the point that when

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<v Speaker 3>the market opened there was a session high of eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>percent cheering. What is another restructuring and yet we're now

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<v Speaker 3>down more than ten percent. Having had some time to

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<v Speaker 3>basically look at what Peloton's saying and on the hardware

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<v Speaker 3>side of their business, the multi channel sales side of

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<v Speaker 3>their business, and then subscriptions, things are not going to

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<v Speaker 3>be as good by the end of the year as

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<v Speaker 3>perhaps they had hoped, the.

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<v Speaker 1>Market had hoped.

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<v Speaker 3>We're gonna get deep on that later in the show

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<v Speaker 3>were Bloombos Mark German, but that is just a real

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<v Speaker 3>ride that stocked this morning. The earning story is elsewhere

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<v Speaker 3>as well. Quill Calm up almost ten percent. The smartphone

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<v Speaker 3>market seems to be recovering. There's going to be a

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<v Speaker 3>lot to talk about with CEO Christiano and on later

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<v Speaker 3>in the program in the context of AI and also

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening in China and then door Dash. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a tail as old as not time, but the history

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<v Speaker 3>of gig economy companies investors looking at ebit dar forecast

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<v Speaker 3>and wondering what's going on the relationship between at Basic

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<v Speaker 3>gig platforms and ebit dar is something we've talked about

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<v Speaker 3>a lot. The concern is like are they investing too much?

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<v Speaker 3>What's going on the bottom line, It's the US's biggest

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<v Speaker 3>delivery platform, mid single digit growth team growth in the

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<v Speaker 3>second quarter. Let's find out what's going on with that one, Caroline.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, because we did actually see strong numbers for fiscal

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<v Speaker 4>first quarter revenue on the higher side, but it was

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<v Speaker 4>this worry about the forecast that is setting the shares lower.

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<v Speaker 4>DoorDash CFO the perfect person to speak to about it,

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<v Speaker 4>Rabbi in Conda. Thank you very much indeed for joining us,

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<v Speaker 4>Rabbi and just talk to us about why this restrained

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<v Speaker 4>outlook for adjusted a bit dark come the second quarter.

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<v Speaker 2>And why then the ramp in the second half.

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<v Speaker 6>Good morning, Carolina, thanks for having me this morning. Q

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<v Speaker 6>one was a very strong quarter for US across the board.

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<v Speaker 6>If you look at the results, demand on the platform

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<v Speaker 6>continues to be very strong. All time highs in terms

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<v Speaker 6>of users, all time high in terms of subscribers, all

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<v Speaker 6>time high in terms of order frequency. In Q one,

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<v Speaker 6>we fulfilled more orders than ever before in our history. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 6>you've been one of the strongest quarters since I've been

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<v Speaker 6>here for the last six years. When I look at

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<v Speaker 6>the underlying demand on the platform, it really is very good.

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<v Speaker 6>We're not seeing weakness on the consumer side, whether it's

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<v Speaker 6>you know, low income or high income, or the East

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<v Speaker 6>Coast or the west. Goal, we're team trend across all markets.

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<v Speaker 6>We operate in thirty countries across all life of business,

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<v Speaker 6>and at the same time, we posted the lowest netlots

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<v Speaker 6>in our history, which is being aided by the highest

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<v Speaker 6>adjuctity bite in our history. Overall, the business continues to

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<v Speaker 6>do really well, and I'm excited about not just the

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<v Speaker 6>Q one results, but they're going forward Q two as

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<v Speaker 6>well as the rest of twenty four.

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<v Speaker 4>So did you get frustrated when the shares full because

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<v Speaker 4>the market wanted to see more in terms of profitability

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<v Speaker 4>for the forecast.

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<v Speaker 6>Our goal has always been to continue to build the

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<v Speaker 6>best product possible, and you're seeing that in our results.

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<v Speaker 1>Users, Like I said, I've been in an all time high.

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<v Speaker 6>We ended twenty three with over thirty seven million consumers

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<v Speaker 6>and that number continues to grow considerably since that point.

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<v Speaker 6>We're not seeing any weakness, whether it's the large, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>enterprise merchants on the platform or the local merchants on

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<v Speaker 6>the platform. You're seeing wrong double digits scapes, stores, sales

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<v Speaker 6>growth across the world. Our grocery business is growing at

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<v Speaker 6>one hundred percent year on ear for the third straight

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<v Speaker 6>quarter in a row. Our goal will continue to be

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<v Speaker 6>to build the best product possible that consider all three

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<v Speaker 6>sides of the audience, whether it's consumers, merchants or adaptors.

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<v Speaker 3>Robbie, I'm building the best product possible. It's easier way

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<v Speaker 3>in on the adjusteday with the forecast. There's some sense

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<v Speaker 3>that you're investing in specific areas and that might be

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<v Speaker 3>impacting the bottom line. Right you're investing at the technology layer.

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<v Speaker 3>What are you doing and what's the goal there?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 6>In Q one, you know, one of the key things

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<v Speaker 6>that impacted the overall business is we did absorb some

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<v Speaker 6>costs in New York as well as Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>That cost is.

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<v Speaker 6>Going to continue to reduce as we go through the

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<v Speaker 6>rest of the year, as we make the business more efficient,

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<v Speaker 6>as we consider other opportunities to consider to make.

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<v Speaker 1>Those costs go down.

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<v Speaker 6>If you recall our business, the core restaurant's business has

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<v Speaker 6>actually been profitable for many years now. We're taking the

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<v Speaker 6>it's from that business and building two new businesses, grocery

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<v Speaker 6>as well as international, both of which are growing extremely fast.

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<v Speaker 6>They're growing faster than our restaurant's business. At the same time,

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<v Speaker 6>the profitability of both of those businesses is going up.

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<v Speaker 6>If you look at our new verticals business, the third

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<v Speaker 6>party component of it has been gross profit positive for

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<v Speaker 6>a few quarters now. Same is the case with international,

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<v Speaker 6>where many countries the restaurant business is actually contribution margin positive.

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<v Speaker 6>So overall the restaurant business profitability is improving. Our new

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<v Speaker 6>vehicles as well as international is also improving in profitability.

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<v Speaker 3>Just really quick. You mentioned Seattle in New York. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a kind of idiosyncratic factors in the quarter. Just explain

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<v Speaker 3>the basics to audience of what happened there. On the

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<v Speaker 3>policy front, Yeah, on the.

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<v Speaker 6>Policy, if I look up, our goal is always to

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<v Speaker 6>work with policymakers and regulators. We do that in over

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<v Speaker 6>hundreds of cities across thirty different countries to ensure we're

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<v Speaker 6>protecting the flexibility and accessibility the doctors and couriers across.

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<v Speaker 1>The globe we're asking for. I just HELFU are.

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<v Speaker 6>Honestly like extreme examples of that regulation.

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<v Speaker 1>We've taken some action to.

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<v Speaker 6>Change the way in which we operate. We're making the

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<v Speaker 6>business more efficient, and our goal is to continue to

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<v Speaker 6>work with policymakers in.

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<v Speaker 4>That regard, Let's just get details on operating profits. You

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<v Speaker 4>say they'll come in the near future. The market expects

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<v Speaker 4>the third quarter, are they right to expect that?

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<v Speaker 6>Look, I mean, our gap net loss is the lowest

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<v Speaker 6>in our history. What you're seeing in the business is

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<v Speaker 6>the growth is strong. Profitability across all lines of business

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<v Speaker 6>is improving. I do expect the trend to continue. And

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<v Speaker 6>if that trend continues on both the growth as well

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<v Speaker 6>as the profitability, the overall business is going to be

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<v Speaker 6>gap positive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just a question of time.

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<v Speaker 6>Our free cap flow has been very strong. If you

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<v Speaker 6>look at the quarter, we've generated roughly about half a

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<v Speaker 6>billion dollars of free cash flow. And that's truly our

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<v Speaker 6>north star in being able to rabas in the business.

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<v Speaker 3>Robbi real quick, what are the specific consumer habits, the

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<v Speaker 3>size of the basket that they're doing, Lots of frequency,

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<v Speaker 3>little spend like little things like that.

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<v Speaker 6>Sure, what you're seeing in the business today is more

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<v Speaker 6>consumers ordering from more categories. Historically, people thought of us

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<v Speaker 6>purely as a restaurant delivery platform. Today are consumers roughly

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<v Speaker 6>about twenty percent of our consumers are ordering from convenience

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<v Speaker 6>grocery alcohol. We have increased the basket sizes across Robbi.

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<v Speaker 3>Rabbisfi, Robbi and a condo.

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<v Speaker 7>We've got to go.

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<v Speaker 8>Thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>Caron.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, if we have some breaking news, let's go to

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<v Speaker 4>the President Biden delivering remarks right now.

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<v Speaker 8>The first is the right to free speech and for

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<v Speaker 8>people to peacefully assemble and make their voices heard. The

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<v Speaker 8>second is the rule of law. Both must be upheld.

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<v Speaker 8>We are not an authoritarian nation where we silence people

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<v Speaker 8>or squash descent American people are heard. In fact, protests

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<v Speaker 8>is in the best tradition of how Americans respond to

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<v Speaker 8>consequential issues. But neither are we a lawless country. We

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<v Speaker 8>are a civil society. An order must prevail. Throughout our history.

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<v Speaker 8>We've often faced moments like this because we are a big, diverse,

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<v Speaker 8>free thinking and freedom loving nation, and moments like this

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<v Speaker 8>there are always those who rush in to score political points.

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<v Speaker 8>But this isn't a moment for politics. It's a moment

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<v Speaker 8>for clarity. So let me be clear. Peaceful protest in America.

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<v Speaker 8>Violent protest is not protected. Peaceful protest is. It's against

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<v Speaker 8>the law, violence occurs, Destroying property is not a peaceful protest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's against the law.

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<v Speaker 8>Vandalism, trespassing, breaking windows, shutting down campuses, forcing the cancelation

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<v Speaker 8>of classes and graduations. None of this is a peaceful protest.

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<v Speaker 8>Threatening people, instilling, firing people is not peaceful protest.

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<v Speaker 1>It's against the law.

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<v Speaker 8>Descent is essential to democracy, but descent must never lead

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<v Speaker 8>to disorder or to denying the rights of others, so

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<v Speaker 8>students can finish the semester and their college education. Look,

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<v Speaker 8>it's basically a matter of fairness. It's a matter of

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<v Speaker 8>what's right. There's the right to protest, but not the

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<v Speaker 8>right to cause chaos. People have the right to get

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<v Speaker 8>an education, the right to get a degree, the right

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<v Speaker 8>to walk across the campus safely without fear of being attacked.

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<v Speaker 8>But let's be clear about this as well. There should

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<v Speaker 8>be no place in any campus, no place in America

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<v Speaker 8>for anti semitism or threats of violence against Jewish students.

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<v Speaker 8>There is no place for hate speech or violence of

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<v Speaker 8>any kind, whether it's anti Semitism, Islamophobia, or discrimination against

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<v Speaker 8>Arab Americans or Palestinian Americans. It's simply wrong. There's no

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<v Speaker 8>place for racism in America. It's all wrong. It's not American.

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<v Speaker 8>I understand people have strong feelings and deep convictions in America.

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<v Speaker 8>We respect the right and protect the right for them

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<v Speaker 8>to express that. But it doesn't mean anything goes. It

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<v Speaker 8>needs to be done without violence, without destruction, without hate,

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<v Speaker 8>and within the law. You know, I'll make no mistake

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<v Speaker 8>as president. I will always defend free speech and I

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<v Speaker 8>will always be just as strong as standing up for

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<v Speaker 8>the rule of law. That's my responsibility to you, the

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<v Speaker 8>American people, and my obligation of the Constitution.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 9>The protest forced you to be consider any of the

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<v Speaker 9>policies in regard to the region.

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<v Speaker 1>No, thank you.

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<v Speaker 7>Do you think the national.

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<v Speaker 4>President might delivering remarks at the White House regarding protests

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<v Speaker 4>student protests that's bring in Bluemug's Kaye lines for more

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<v Speaker 4>and against violence and destruction, but well full peaceful protest.

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<v Speaker 9>Yeah, the President making it clear that he does stand

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<v Speaker 9>by Americans' right to free speech and that that should

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<v Speaker 9>not be interfered with. But yes, Caroline, essentially that it

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<v Speaker 9>should be done peacefully. The President, and making these remarks

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<v Speaker 9>in the Roosevelt Room, said descent must never lead to

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<v Speaker 9>disorder or denial of rights, that the right to protest

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<v Speaker 9>does not mean the right to cause chaos, going on

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<v Speaker 9>to say that there is no place for anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 9>in America. He makes these remarks as he is facing

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<v Speaker 9>growing pressure to address what we're seeing happening on college

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<v Speaker 9>campuses across the country, from Columbia University to the West Coast,

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<v Speaker 9>with what we've seen at UCLA in the wee hours

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<v Speaker 9>this morning. All of it just speaking to the pressure

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<v Speaker 9>that he is under as he is trying to stand

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<v Speaker 9>by Israel as an ally, but there is growing concern

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<v Speaker 9>about the way Israel is conducting itself in its war

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<v Speaker 9>against a moss in Gaza. We just heard there the

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<v Speaker 9>President being asked by a reporter whether or not this

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<v Speaker 9>has all made him rethink his policy on Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>He said no.

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<v Speaker 9>He also said no to the question he was asked

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<v Speaker 9>about whether the National Guard should be interfering in these

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<v Speaker 9>instances on the college campuses. He said no to that

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<v Speaker 9>as well. I would also point out we will be

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<v Speaker 9>hearing from President Biden on the issue of anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 9>again next week on Tuesday, May seventh. He is planning

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<v Speaker 9>to speak at the Capital as part of the National

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<v Speaker 9>Holocaust Remembrance ceremony that will be happening on that date.

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<v Speaker 9>We heard from the White House Press Secretary of Karee

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<v Speaker 9>John Pierre yesterday who said the President will discuss the

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<v Speaker 9>moral duty to combat the rising scores of anti Semitism

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<v Speaker 9>and the administration's work on that issue. Of course, we

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<v Speaker 9>probably got a preview of some of what he will

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<v Speaker 9>likely say when we just heard him speak today.

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<v Speaker 3>Bloom bells Ka lines, thank you for the context on that.

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<v Speaker 3>It's interesting because we've been talking about protests at different

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<v Speaker 3>university campuses across the country and indeed across the world

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<v Speaker 3>for several days at least. Now, what was the politics

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<v Speaker 3>of this with the president, but what was the pressure

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<v Speaker 3>on the hill and the conversation about whether or not

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<v Speaker 3>Biden would come out and say anything, and the timing

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<v Speaker 3>of it.

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<v Speaker 9>Well, we had heard President Biden speak on this before,

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<v Speaker 9>saying that he condemns anti Semitism, although he also had

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<v Speaker 9>suggested that people need to understand what's going on with

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<v Speaker 9>the Palestinian people. But certainly the domestic political pressure has

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<v Speaker 9>been growing. We have seen specifically Republican members of Congress

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<v Speaker 9>really taking hold of this issue. We have seen the

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<v Speaker 9>House Speaker Mike Johnson, together with other Republican members of

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<v Speaker 9>the New York delegation actually going to the campus of

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<v Speaker 9>Columbia University just last week, and just last night, the

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<v Speaker 9>House passed by a wide bipartisan margin, a bill that

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<v Speaker 9>would essentially help the definition of anti Semitism be applied

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<v Speaker 9>differently with the Department of Education. There was some concern

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<v Speaker 9>that that would become a free speech issue, that it

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<v Speaker 9>would limit criticism of Israel or the Israeli government, for example,

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<v Speaker 9>but it still got through with a bipartisan majority. It's

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<v Speaker 9>unclear whether or not that will move forward in the Senate,

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<v Speaker 9>but you are definitely seeing through the legislature efforts to

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<v Speaker 9>combat anti Semitism. A lot of blame being cast on

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<v Speaker 9>President Biden, whether rightly or not, for what we're seeing

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<v Speaker 9>on college campuses, and of course he's been dealing with

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<v Speaker 9>the political ramifications of his wider policy toward Israel consistently

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<v Speaker 9>throughout this primary season, as we have seen actual Democratic

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<v Speaker 9>primary voters voting against alternatives, whether it be uncommitted or

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<v Speaker 9>something to the effect in different states like Michigan and others,

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<v Speaker 9>to express their discontent with how the president has been

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<v Speaker 9>handling his Israeli policy.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking of Israeli policy.

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<v Speaker 4>Breaking news that Turkey has indeed halted all trade with Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>That's both exports and imports to and from Israel as

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<v Speaker 4>of Thursday. That's according to two Turkish officials familiar with

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<v Speaker 4>the matter. Katie Lines bringing us the latest from what

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<v Speaker 4>the president has been saying. Meanwhile, now we want to

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<v Speaker 4>return our attention toward is in an investor's focus right now.

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<v Speaker 2>We are still a mid earning season.

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<v Speaker 4>Today is Apple reporting quarterly results after the market closes

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<v Speaker 4>later today, giving investors kind of a better sense of

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<v Speaker 4>how the iPhone maker is weathering at sales slump. We've also, though,

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<v Speaker 4>got to be talking about what on earth is happening

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<v Speaker 4>over at Peloton. It's its shares slump too. Bloomberg's Mark

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<v Speaker 4>Gum and for more on what to expect, let's just

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<v Speaker 4>kick off with Apple because it is the huge company

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<v Speaker 4>that many focus on.

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<v Speaker 2>What are we lining up for?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, Apple earnings? The expectation for the fifth time in

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<v Speaker 10>six quarters, Apple is going to report an annual decline.

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<v Speaker 10>Revenue is expected by Wall Street to come in at

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<v Speaker 10>about ninety billion in change, which would be about a

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<v Speaker 10>five billion dollar dip on year over year. The other

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<v Speaker 10>thing that's not so hot here. All of Apple's product categories,

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<v Speaker 10>so hardware categories, from the iPhone to the iPad, the Mac, wearables, AirPods,

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<v Speaker 10>those are expected to decline on an annual basis, with

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<v Speaker 10>the only bright spot potentially being actually some pretty significant

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<v Speaker 10>growth in the services business. Also another decline in Greater China,

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<v Speaker 10>right on the heels of reports from Counterpoint in IDC

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<v Speaker 10>and others that iPhone sales in China dipped by about

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<v Speaker 10>a fifth despite the smartphone market going up in general.

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<v Speaker 10>So overall ninety billion in revenue. That's a big number.

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<v Speaker 10>That's amazing for most companies, but for Apple, Wall Street

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<v Speaker 10>probably would have liked a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>Mark Hardware and Services is a pretty wild story when

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<v Speaker 3>it comes to Peloton Bluembo technology team. Let's show the

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<v Speaker 3>two day chart and just go back over what happened.

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<v Speaker 3>Opened up as high as eighteen percent, is now down

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<v Speaker 3>more than ten percent in the session. The CEO is

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<v Speaker 3>going after two years, another headcount reduction, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>no sign really that Peloton's got a strategy to get

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<v Speaker 3>itself out of trouble. Give me the details.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think people realize how close Peloton is to bankruptcy. Right,

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<v Speaker 10>they'll be lucky to remain on the stock market much longer.

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<v Speaker 10>If you ask me, I'm shocked that Barry McCarthy stuck

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<v Speaker 10>around so long. There is nothing he didn't try. There

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<v Speaker 10>is nothing he didn't do. He's laid off several thousand people,

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<v Speaker 10>He's moved from a hardware focus to a content and

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<v Speaker 10>subscription focus, restructured the company multiple times, hired new executives

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<v Speaker 10>to write the ship, outsourced pretty much everything you could outsource,

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<v Speaker 10>from installation to shipping to manufacturing. And here we are

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<v Speaker 10>missing Wall Street expectations, missing internal forecasts. People still not

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<v Speaker 10>buying as many bikes and rows and different Peloton appliances

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<v Speaker 10>as you would expect, the premium app falling flat on

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<v Speaker 10>its face. Yes, people like their marketing chief continuing to

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<v Speaker 10>leave Pelotons in its worshape as it's ever been. And

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<v Speaker 10>they have no CEO running the company.

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<v Speaker 3>Just looking at the Bloomberg terminal, and just to give

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<v Speaker 3>some specifics, the stock is at a record low. They

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<v Speaker 3>ended the quarter with about seven hundred million dollars seven

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and thirty seven million dollars of cash, and they

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<v Speaker 3>did say that because of the headcut count reduction, they'll

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<v Speaker 3>say about two hundred million dollars a year and cash

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<v Speaker 3>flow positivity is possible by the fourth quarter. But as

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<v Speaker 3>you outline, Mark, the situation of Peloton, which is a

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<v Speaker 3>company way off its pandemic era high, is pretty bleak.

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<v Speaker 3>Bloombo's Mark German. Stay tuned for his reporting on a

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<v Speaker 3>Apple as well after the belt. Now coming up, chip

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<v Speaker 3>maker Quial com up with earnings in a strong forecast.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a lot to talk about with CEO Christiano Ramon

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<v Speaker 3>about the AI smartphone and the AIPC. That conversation is

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<v Speaker 3>coming up. This is Bloomberg Technology.

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<v Speaker 2>Time now for talking tech.

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<v Speaker 4>First up, video game publisher Take too Interactive and plans

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<v Speaker 4>to shut down two subsidiaries as part of a mass

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<v Speaker 4>layoff across its divisions over in London and Seattle.

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<v Speaker 2>That's according to documents review by Bloomberg Now.

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<v Speaker 4>Last month, Take two said it would lay off five

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<v Speaker 4>percent of its staff.

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<v Speaker 2>That's around six hundred workers. Meanwhile, let's take a look

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<v Speaker 2>at Starlink, as it's still operating.

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<v Speaker 4>In multiple unauthorized regions even after the company issued warnings

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<v Speaker 4>last month that its satellite internet will be shut down by.

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<v Speaker 2>May first in those areas.

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<v Speaker 4>These notices come after a March investigation by bloombag News,

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<v Speaker 4>which first revealed the extent which Musk's satellites are being

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<v Speaker 4>used in countries where it is illegal to operate, including

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<v Speaker 4>in territories ruled by repressive regimes. And regulators moved to

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<v Speaker 4>bar a Huawei lab from approving telecom gear.

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<v Speaker 2>For use in the United States.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's a proposed similar moves now against other providers

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<v Speaker 4>deemed a national security threat, including several Chinese companies. The

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<v Speaker 4>SEC says this will ensure that these non government labs

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<v Speaker 4>aren't quote influenced by untrustworthy actors.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've got more Hunhuawei.

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<v Speaker 3>This is another big Bloomberg story. Chinese seller communication as

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<v Speaker 3>giant Huawei is secretly funding cutting edge research at American universities,

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<v Speaker 3>including Harvard, through an independent Washington based foundation. Here with

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<v Speaker 3>the scoop is Bloomberg's k O'Keeffe in Kate. At the

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<v Speaker 3>heart of this reporting, like all good Bloomberg reporting, is

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<v Speaker 3>you following the money. What did following the money tell you?

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<v Speaker 2>Right?

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<v Speaker 11>Well, what we saw is that over the past few years,

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<v Speaker 11>Huawei has funded hundreds of researchers and spent millions of

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<v Speaker 11>dollars and it was all really without their knowledge. They

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<v Speaker 11>thought they were being funded by a foundation based in Washington,

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<v Speaker 11>DC that is called the Optica.

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<v Speaker 4>Foundation competition administered by Optica and in fact Grant's I

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<v Speaker 4>think you say, there are eleven opportunities on the Optica

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<v Speaker 4>Foundation website to have early career prizes and fellowships, but

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<v Speaker 4>all but the Huawei funded competition are basically clear about

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<v Speaker 4>which backers are providing the money. What did ultimately the

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<v Speaker 4>Optica Foundation save for its quietness on Huawei's money.

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<v Speaker 11>Right exactly, So the other ten opportunities are made clear

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<v Speaker 11>that they were funded by an individual or a company

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<v Speaker 11>or some combination. The Huawei funded prize appeared to all

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<v Speaker 11>the people that I spoke with to be funded by

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<v Speaker 11>the foundation's general funds, and the response from Optica's CEO

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<v Speaker 11>was that, look.

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<v Speaker 7>You know, there's a lot of donors who.

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<v Speaker 11>Want to remain anonymous, including US donors, and you know, effectively,

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<v Speaker 11>you know, there's no issue with it.

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<v Speaker 3>There is examples in other jurisdictions of Huawei being a

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<v Speaker 3>bit more public having initiatives to make inbros in those markets,

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<v Speaker 3>I think, particularly in Europe, Kate, explain what you learned there.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, that's right.

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<v Speaker 11>I mean, as we as we reported in countries like France,

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<v Speaker 11>in Germany, Huawei is openly funding, you know, research centers.

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<v Speaker 7>In the US, it's a really different story.

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<v Speaker 11>Because several years ago the US government moved on multiple

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<v Speaker 11>fronts to restrict restrict Huawei. One of the major restrictions

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<v Speaker 11>that have been in place are at sport controls, and

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<v Speaker 11>that blocks people and individual people and companies from sharing

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<v Speaker 11>tech with Huawei.

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<v Speaker 7>But what's interesting about this.

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<v Speaker 11>Competition is it actually kind of falls through the cracks

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<v Speaker 11>of all these different regulations because it deals with academic research,

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<v Speaker 11>which is for the most part meant to be published,

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<v Speaker 11>and therefore it is not subject to the current export

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<v Speaker 11>controls that we have in place in the US.

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<v Speaker 4>Nevertheless, and as a great quote in your piece says,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a bad look for prestigious research foundation to be

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<v Speaker 4>anonymously accepting money from a Chinese company. So really, ultimately

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<v Speaker 4>this is about sort of the feel of it rather

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<v Speaker 4>than actually the letter of the law.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, right, there's nothing illegal about this as far as

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<v Speaker 11>I could tell in my reporting. It does, though, put

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<v Speaker 11>the universities who actually accept the money on behalf of

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<v Speaker 11>these researchers, as well as the researchers themselves in an

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<v Speaker 11>uncomfortable position because a lot of the university these have

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<v Speaker 11>decided independently that you know, they don't want to work

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<v Speaker 11>with well anymore. Some of them have made public statements

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<v Speaker 11>about that, and so they're in this weird spot now

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<v Speaker 11>where some of their researchers have gotten money already but

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<v Speaker 11>you know, to do good work, to do science, but

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<v Speaker 11>they didn't know who was ultimately funding it, and you know,

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<v Speaker 11>maybe something different would have happened had they known the

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<v Speaker 11>true source of funding.

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<v Speaker 4>Kate o'keith, first, great big deep dive for us here

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<v Speaker 4>at Bridemerg.

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<v Speaker 2>We so appreciate you joining the show. Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 3>Indeed, welcome to our Bloomberg television and radio audiences worldwide.

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<v Speaker 3>Quowdcom stock significantly higher around ten percent the story. Things

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<v Speaker 3>look like they're improving in the smartphone market globally, and

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<v Speaker 3>within that there's a lot of nuance. There is specific

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<v Speaker 3>action in China and there's strength also for the chips

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<v Speaker 3>that go into cars in the automotive sector. Delighted to

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<v Speaker 3>say that Quidcom CEO Christiana and one joins us. Now,

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<v Speaker 3>good morning to you, Christiano, and let's start with China.

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<v Speaker 3>What you guys said is that sales to Chinese handset

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<v Speaker 3>makers serves forty percent in the first half. But I

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<v Speaker 3>wonder what the story behind that is in the end market,

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening, particularly with Android based platforms for the Chinese consumer.

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<v Speaker 12>Very good good morning to you as well. It's a

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<v Speaker 12>great morning I think today. But look the story on

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<v Speaker 12>hints's in China. It's pretty simple. We've seen the market

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<v Speaker 12>had stabilized. We had said about that a couple quarters ago,

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<v Speaker 12>and users aren't buying better phones. It's really for us

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<v Speaker 12>a story of flagship and high tiers within the Android,

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<v Speaker 12>especially a lot of those flagships that are launching with Genai.

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<v Speaker 12>I think we see the very beginning of Genai coming

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<v Speaker 12>to devices and that actually drove you know, a lot

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<v Speaker 12>of the growth. And it's forty percent not only in

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<v Speaker 12>this quarter, but actually expected to have the same in

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<v Speaker 12>the next. As we as we look at the guide,

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<v Speaker 12>he has been a good story as the smartphone markets

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<v Speaker 12>stabilize it and Android flagship has stayed resilient.

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<v Speaker 3>Christiana, As you know and our audience knows, we will

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<v Speaker 3>talk about on device when it comes to generative AI.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's just linger a moment longer on China. It looks

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<v Speaker 3>like some of the domestic players that Android base are

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<v Speaker 3>gaining market share against Apple and the iPhone. You see

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<v Speaker 3>that in the I d C data, you see it

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<v Speaker 3>in the counterpoint research data. If that is the case,

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<v Speaker 3>where the domestic players are gaining that market share, what

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<v Speaker 3>does it mean for Qualcom.

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<v Speaker 12>Look the way you should think about our position in

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<v Speaker 12>China in the hinter market, we have been very focused

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<v Speaker 12>on the premium in height tier word Snapdragon. So when

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<v Speaker 12>when an Android OEM from our customers show me up

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<v Speaker 12>a one plus Honor Vivo when they're selling a flagship device,

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<v Speaker 12>we have a lot of content. Not only we have

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<v Speaker 12>the more content, but we have a lot of the

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<v Speaker 12>application processor, the AI engine. So that has been a

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<v Speaker 12>positive development and that's what is being driving the content

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<v Speaker 12>increase and the ASP increased, especially when the mix changes

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<v Speaker 12>to a premium device. The fact that the Android flagship

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<v Speaker 12>in China with the Chinese OEMs had been stable, proven

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<v Speaker 12>to be resilient in see positive momento at the mixed

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<v Speaker 12>get richer Chinese users are buying a better phone. That's

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<v Speaker 12>a good story for Qualcom and it's reflected into numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>Is there any anxiety from a political perspective, Christiano, You've

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<v Speaker 4>obviously weathered the fact that you're.

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<v Speaker 2>Only in Huawei four G phones.

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<v Speaker 4>Now you're actually seeing basically ultimately revenue pull away by

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<v Speaker 4>the end of this year for Huawei. But the geopolitical

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<v Speaker 4>context is clear. How difficult is it to you to

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<v Speaker 4>be so dependent on China.

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<v Speaker 12>Look, the first thing I want to say is our

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<v Speaker 12>business is not just China, and I think what happened

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<v Speaker 12>with the smartphone this is a phenomenon globally. I think

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<v Speaker 12>you even saw Samsung when they talk about it the

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<v Speaker 12>earnings called they have a commentary about the device AI

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<v Speaker 12>opportunity for flagships.

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<v Speaker 1>It is real.

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<v Speaker 12>So the second part is the way we think about

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<v Speaker 12>everything is if you have a leadership position in technology,

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<v Speaker 12>you're going to have a big business in China. It's

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<v Speaker 12>just a function of the size of the market. And

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<v Speaker 12>I think that's been true not only for Qualcom, for

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of other companies that have leadership product position.

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<v Speaker 1>And to this.

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<v Speaker 12>Point, I think we have been seeing our business in

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<v Speaker 12>China can continue to be a stable business. We have

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<v Speaker 12>not been restricted by like everybody else in the industry,

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<v Speaker 12>you have to monitor the situation. I think this is

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<v Speaker 12>how we have to navigate in the semiconductor industry. But

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<v Speaker 12>we're happy with the results we have right now.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's go therefore to the technology that is winning out,

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<v Speaker 4>and you talk about AI on device, how are people

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<v Speaker 4>using it? You've got snaptrack at eight series Gen three

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<v Speaker 4>mobile platform that's really meant to be supporting generative AI

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<v Speaker 4>at the moment, basically with a personal assystement assistant potentially,

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<v Speaker 4>But how is that a reality for any or many?

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<v Speaker 12>Look, I love talking about this and I wish I

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<v Speaker 12>had a lot of time, so I'm going to try

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<v Speaker 12>to summarize it in just a few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>The first thing that is happening.

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<v Speaker 12>You need to think about AI running on the cloud

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<v Speaker 12>and the device as a new way of doing computing.

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<v Speaker 12>And we're just at the very beginning of the use cases.

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<v Speaker 12>So right now we can see, for example, multiple tens

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<v Speaker 12>of use cases, and I expect that within six months

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<v Speaker 12>from now will be hundreds, if not more. What are

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<v Speaker 12>people doing with it? You see some use cases of

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<v Speaker 12>life translate. You can watch a video, you can add

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<v Speaker 12>a subtitle in any language, you want. You can do

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of real time photo editing. You can change

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<v Speaker 12>a lot of the images with the way you like it.

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<v Speaker 12>You can create new images, you can summarize documents. But

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<v Speaker 12>the most important thing is the other thing that it's

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<v Speaker 12>going to bring the phones. I'm going to give you

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<v Speaker 12>a point to an example. More and more you do

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<v Speaker 12>more things on the phone today, but there are things

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<v Speaker 12>that you're going to think about it. You know what,

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<v Speaker 12>I have to respond to this very long email. I'd

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<v Speaker 12>rather wait until I get to my laptop. When you

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<v Speaker 12>think about a Microsoft Copilot in the phone, for example,

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<v Speaker 12>you're going to see a lot more use of those devices.

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<v Speaker 12>We're going to see much much more productivity. So we're

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<v Speaker 12>the beginning of something great. It's going to take some time.

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<v Speaker 12>Use cases are developing. You should think about this. What

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<v Speaker 12>happened with the smartphone. In the beginning, there's just a

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<v Speaker 12>few apps in the app store, but then all of

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<v Speaker 12>a sudden, the apps started to define the user experience.

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<v Speaker 12>That's how we feel about AI were the beginning. It's

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<v Speaker 12>going to take a little bit of time, but the

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<v Speaker 12>signs are great.

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<v Speaker 3>For a Bloomberg television and radio audiences worldwide, we're speaking

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<v Speaker 3>to the culowdcom CEO, Christiano Amon, and I think you

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<v Speaker 3>summed it up well. Christiana. We're in the very early

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<v Speaker 3>stages of the world where we're running ten billion parameter

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<v Speaker 3>models locally on device on the small inside. But we're

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<v Speaker 3>already talking about the AIPC.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 3>You guys have your latest generation which will come to

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<v Speaker 3>market Snapdragon ten Elite and plus, and it's very impressive

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<v Speaker 3>combination of CPU, GPU, NPU. Give me a minute, we'll

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<v Speaker 3>talk about MPU. But I still think a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>people struggle to say, what am I going to do

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<v Speaker 3>sitting in a cafe running allion dollar a ten billion

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<v Speaker 3>parameter model while I have a cappuccino, Like, what's the

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<v Speaker 3>actual real.

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<v Speaker 13>World use case?

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<v Speaker 12>Okay, you know, we could not be more excited about

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<v Speaker 12>what's happening in PC. I really think PC is reborn

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<v Speaker 12>with the Snapdragon ex Elite, and it's not only because

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<v Speaker 12>of the performance, but because actually AI. By the way,

0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:50.800
<v Speaker 12>we can run twenty billion parameter on the ax Elite.

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<v Speaker 12>This is it's it's evolving very very fast. But the

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<v Speaker 12>use case are really incredible. Think about now there's AI

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<v Speaker 12>running all the time. Everything you're doing on your PC.

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<v Speaker 12>It is running and it's private, it's your data, it's

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<v Speaker 12>your use. The ICE learning about you, stray to understand

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<v Speaker 12>your intent. And we starting to see right now with

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<v Speaker 12>the Microsoft Copilot that you can use the Copilot for everything,

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<v Speaker 12>for PowerPoint, for Excel, for Word or email.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's much more.

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<v Speaker 12>The AI is helping you recall documents that you have

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<v Speaker 12>on that you've seen or you have on your computer.

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<v Speaker 12>It's going to help you do things, going to reminding

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<v Speaker 12>of things that you have to do or even it's

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<v Speaker 12>going to help you with tasks that you need. You

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<v Speaker 12>don't know how to do it, and they will help

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<v Speaker 12>you one step of the way. That's going to change

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<v Speaker 12>how we use our computers. And the interesting thing is

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<v Speaker 12>how do you do this in a way that you

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<v Speaker 12>don't compromise battery life.

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<v Speaker 1>A CPU and a GPU have a job to do.

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<v Speaker 12>And that's why when you buy a PC today, you

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<v Speaker 12>want a fest CPU and a fast GPU, but you

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<v Speaker 12>need a whole new engine that needs to do something

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<v Speaker 12>else and needs to do it all the time and

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<v Speaker 12>not compromise battery life.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the Qualcom story, and what is.

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<v Speaker 2>The market share story of Qualcolm.

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<v Speaker 4>We've been hearing a lot about other competitors getting into

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<v Speaker 4>the AIPC space.

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<v Speaker 12>I think this is the great story for Qualcom because

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<v Speaker 12>we're new, we're just entering the market. I think we're

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<v Speaker 12>going to see a lot of the devices coming up

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<v Speaker 12>in the second half of this year. I encourage everybody

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<v Speaker 12>to watch the Microsoft build and the incredible things they're

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<v Speaker 12>doing with the new Windows, and I think what's going

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<v Speaker 12>to happen is Qualcom is coming in with the leadership product.

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<v Speaker 1>We like the design traction.

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<v Speaker 12>Financially, that's going to be more of a fiscal twenty

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<v Speaker 12>five event because a lot of the laptops are going

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<v Speaker 12>to be in the shelves for the second half and

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<v Speaker 12>back to school. But the product momentum is great. And

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<v Speaker 12>here's how you should think about Qualcom market share in general.

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<v Speaker 12>One thing about the company, and it's been the history

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 12>of the company, everything that we set ourselves to do.

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<v Speaker 1>The track record exactly not bad.

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<v Speaker 12>When we entered the Wi Fi or, we became number one,

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<v Speaker 12>we entered the rfron end, we became number one automotive,

0:34:08.400 --> 0:34:10.239
<v Speaker 12>we said we're going to go into automotive. I think

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<v Speaker 12>our story there is very very good. We're becoming the

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<v Speaker 12>prefer partner of the industry. We said we're going to

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<v Speaker 12>enter the metaphorse we have every single design. Now we're

0:34:19.400 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 12>saying we're going to enter the PC. And we started

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<v Speaker 12>off the gate with the leadership in the product. So

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<v Speaker 12>you know, as we continue to execute, time is going

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<v Speaker 12>to show that we can gain share and can be

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<v Speaker 12>a significant player. After that, it's going to be industrial

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<v Speaker 12>as we continue to execute on the growth diversification of

0:34:36.880 --> 0:34:37.400
<v Speaker 12>the company.

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<v Speaker 4>Fart intwo call com CEO Cristiano Aman, We thank you

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<v Speaker 4>for bringing the energy today.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you great talking to both of you.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, let's get some news in the world of

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<v Speaker 3>private markets and venture. Blood testing company carry Us raised

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<v Speaker 3>one hundred million dollars in a new funding round from

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<v Speaker 3>investors led by existing investor Coastal Adventures, alongside five AM

0:35:05.840 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 3>Ventures and Glide Healthcare. The company declined to give its valuation,

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:11.799
<v Speaker 3>but says that we use the cash to get its

0:35:11.840 --> 0:35:17.480
<v Speaker 3>technology for detecting hard to identify infections in to more hospitals.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's stick with all things private venture and startups and

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<v Speaker 3>bring in CRV general partner Max Gaza on today's VC

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<v Speaker 3>Spotlight producer Extraordinairy Marguerite Gallery, and he's been crunching the

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<v Speaker 3>numbers on IPO activity. You don't really need to crunch

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<v Speaker 3>the numbers because we've been quite busy of late, and

0:35:35.800 --> 0:35:39.440
<v Speaker 3>we had a pocket in September. Your affirm that invests

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<v Speaker 3>at the seed and Series A stage. What are the

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<v Speaker 3>numbers that you crunch when activity is happening in the market.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, great to be back.

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<v Speaker 13>Last time I was here in January, we mentioned that

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<v Speaker 13>we counted over one hundred companies that we felt were

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<v Speaker 13>ip already, and I'm glad to report that that number

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<v Speaker 13>is still holding strong. We've seen also some great activity

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<v Speaker 13>in the public markets with Rubric going out first software

0:36:07.280 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 13>IPO of twenty four. We saw some strength with the

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<v Speaker 13>Sterei Labs, which is an AI infrastructure hardware play arm held.

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:16.480
<v Speaker 1>Up post lock up.

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<v Speaker 13>These are all data points that would suggest that not

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<v Speaker 13>only is the IPO market strong, but the M and

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<v Speaker 13>A market is thawing as well. So with Hashi Corporate

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<v Speaker 13>IBM and talks of informatic and salesforce, we feel that

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<v Speaker 13>the big thoughts here were very optimistic for twenty four

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<v Speaker 13>and into twenty five.

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<v Speaker 3>And the reason that we want to have you on

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<v Speaker 3>the show, and I guess that you give yourselves a

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<v Speaker 3>little put on the back is that you identify the

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<v Speaker 3>names early that go on to be successful. It seems

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<v Speaker 3>to me though, like even pre seed, but seed in

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<v Speaker 3>Series A is becoming a very competitive space in the

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<v Speaker 3>context of AI.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, look, AI is one of those things that

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<v Speaker 13>people are focused on.

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<v Speaker 1>Every VC in the valley is looking at AI.

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<v Speaker 13>We think of it not just as an innovation from

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<v Speaker 13>a technology point of view, there is a technology you know,

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<v Speaker 13>step function and change there, but also from a business

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<v Speaker 13>model point of view. So let me give you an example.

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<v Speaker 13>Most software today is sold via license model. Whether you

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<v Speaker 13>use it or not, you pay for the license and

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<v Speaker 13>you know that's that, or it's a seat based model

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<v Speaker 13>where it's per set. What if that business model changes

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<v Speaker 13>to a per consumption basis, so you pay for the

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<v Speaker 13>for every task that the AI completes. If that holds,

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<v Speaker 13>we're at the dawn of a new era in business

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<v Speaker 13>software because it's a transformational shift and how software will

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<v Speaker 13>be sold and AI is enabling that. So we're not

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<v Speaker 13>just looking at it from a technology point of view,

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<v Speaker 13>but a business model innovation point of view. At the

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<v Speaker 13>earliest stages, it's really hard to see that so we're

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<v Speaker 13>betting on founders that think in those big terms, and

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<v Speaker 13>we've been doing that for fifty three years.

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<v Speaker 2>Max.

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<v Speaker 4>What's therefore the viewpoint when you bet on those founders

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<v Speaker 4>of their exit right now? Because what we're seeing with

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<v Speaker 4>AI startups is they're having these increasingly interesting partnerships with

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<v Speaker 4>big legacy businesses that the likes of dwn Lobe are

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<v Speaker 4>currently saying are actually going to be the winners of

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<v Speaker 4>the artificial intelligence revolution. Do you think it's all about

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<v Speaker 4>M and A when it comes to these AI bets.

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<v Speaker 7>Well, Carolyn, it's a good, great question.

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<v Speaker 13>If you look historically at the VC market, most of

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<v Speaker 13>the exits have happened via m and A. Right, there's

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<v Speaker 13>a few giant winners and the power to laws take

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<v Speaker 13>effect with IPOs, but MNA is really important, which is

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<v Speaker 13>why it's important for us and encouraging for us to

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<v Speaker 13>see this big thaw that's happening. To your other question.

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<v Speaker 13>Right now, everyone's focusing on the Magnificent seven and these

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<v Speaker 13>big companies and the scale that they have because there's

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<v Speaker 13>so few public AI companies, right, we think that there's

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<v Speaker 13>hundreds to come in the in the next decade or so.

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<v Speaker 13>And I think that the shift will focus away from

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<v Speaker 13>those concentrated winners today to some of the startups that

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<v Speaker 13>we're seeing in the market, the private markets that are

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<v Speaker 13>coming behind that.

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<v Speaker 4>Two, of course, keep on raising fund to keep on

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<v Speaker 4>allocating to the founders the very early. You've got to

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<v Speaker 4>have this proof of track record, which you have. And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm just interested as to if you've got any companies

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<v Speaker 4>that you're thinking about to get out the gates, how

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<v Speaker 4>you bracing yourself for your own IPO pipeline.

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<v Speaker 7>It's a great question.

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<v Speaker 13>A few things have to happen for an IPO to occur,

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<v Speaker 13>and they happen often very far in advance. So one

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<v Speaker 13>is often up leveling of leadership teams, right functional roles

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<v Speaker 13>in finance, in marketing and sales and product et cetera.

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<v Speaker 13>So we see that we see cap table fortification with

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<v Speaker 13>the introduction of crossover investors that are both private and

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<v Speaker 13>public investors that come on.

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<v Speaker 3>In Nvidia is big one doing at the moment.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right.

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<v Speaker 13>And you know, the other thing that we see, which

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<v Speaker 13>is probably the strongest leading indicator is the number of

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<v Speaker 13>independent board searches. Through our executive recruiting partners, we've been

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<v Speaker 13>hearing the uptick in that and we feel at firsthand

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<v Speaker 13>as well, and with many searches that are going on

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<v Speaker 13>with our portfolio, a lot of companies are getting ready

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<v Speaker 13>for this and it's happening, and it's you know, behind

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<v Speaker 13>the scenes, but it will happen.

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<v Speaker 4>Ah, and boy do we brace ourselves for it. CRV

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<v Speaker 4>general partner Maxkazor, thank you so much for spending time

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<v Speaker 4>with us talking all things exits. Meanwhile, coming up, let's

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<v Speaker 4>talk at AB and B revealing a new once in

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<v Speaker 4>a lifetime stay and experience category.

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<v Speaker 2>I bring you all the details. Next, there's some good pictures.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a bluebog technology.

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<v Speaker 3>The world's biggest record label, Universal Music, said it's entered

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<v Speaker 3>a new licensing agreement with TikTok, ending a dispute that

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<v Speaker 3>led to its artist songs being pulled from the social

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<v Speaker 3>media platform Bluemos, Alex Brinka here, Rihanna Drake joining Taylor

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<v Speaker 3>Swift back on the Tiktoks give me the deats.

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<v Speaker 14>They are Since February, basically the music from artists under

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<v Speaker 14>You and g have disappeared from user speeds and from

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<v Speaker 14>the artists themselves because this deal was not e play.

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<v Speaker 14>But basically overnight. There's a new deal in place that

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<v Speaker 14>would give improved payments for UMG songwriters and artists, give

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<v Speaker 14>them access to TikTok shop, the e commerce capabilities, and

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<v Speaker 14>the two companies also say that they will work together

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<v Speaker 14>on promotional campaigns around new songs and records, and that

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<v Speaker 14>there's one more kind of piece to this whole story

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<v Speaker 14>that was a big concern for UMG and a lot

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<v Speaker 14>of kind of protect creators, and that's to do with AI.

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<v Speaker 14>This agreement does say that TikTok will expand its protections

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<v Speaker 14>when it comes to AI, because certainly songwriters are worried

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<v Speaker 14>about not only kind of fake songs being created, fake

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<v Speaker 14>videos and images being created, but also the fact that

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<v Speaker 14>it's been kind of a wackable process on TikTok to

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<v Speaker 14>get those taken down. So exciting move for them, and

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<v Speaker 14>I'm sure that a lot of the users who had

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<v Speaker 14>the sounds kind of disappear overnights and their songs and

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<v Speaker 14>the trends they were doing will be excited to get

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<v Speaker 14>those songs back to less mutes.

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<v Speaker 4>Well thank you from New Meg's Alex BURINCA brilliant get

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<v Speaker 4>all the assessment but also going viral Airbnb announcing is

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<v Speaker 4>the latest category Icons, a new vertical for extraordinary experiences,

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<v Speaker 4>hosted by the greatest names in music, film, television, art, sports,

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<v Speaker 4>and more joining us now at the details blue makes

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<v Speaker 4>Natalie Lung, I mean, is this just a bit of

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<v Speaker 4>good pr or is this actually going to bring in

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<v Speaker 4>real money for Airbnb?

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<v Speaker 5>Right? This is definitely part of their marketing expense. It's

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<v Speaker 5>expensive to build the house from up for example, from

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<v Speaker 5>scratch and placing it in New Mexico and hosting it

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<v Speaker 5>up a fifty of a crane fifty feet off the ground.

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<v Speaker 5>So this is definitely a marketing expense for them, but

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<v Speaker 5>they hope to be able to drive more traffic new users.

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<v Speaker 5>A user account is required to sign up and also

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<v Speaker 5>reach new audiences abroad.

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<v Speaker 3>This was a big thing that played out on social media,

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<v Speaker 3>so they tried to do the thing from the movie up,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was with a crane. And then I saw

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<v Speaker 3>all these founders and people associated with Airbnb, pat Brian

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<v Speaker 3>Chesky on the back. For him, this seems like a

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<v Speaker 3>bit of a personal project, Natalie.

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<v Speaker 5>Right, It is definitely a personal project, something that he

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<v Speaker 5>has done long long before this launch. They put an

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<v Speaker 5>Ikia home up on Airbnb, and of course last year

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<v Speaker 5>there was the Barbie Dreamhouse, which went viral. So this

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<v Speaker 5>is really him taking Airbnb beyond some of the core

0:43:22.200 --> 0:43:25.360
<v Speaker 5>experiences that we all come to know. He wants people

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<v Speaker 5>to be inspired by these homes.

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<v Speaker 4>We'll see he starts wanting to get in on all

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<v Speaker 4>of these one of the kind experiences. Natalie n thanks

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<v Speaker 4>for bringing us a pretty fun story to end, as

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<v Speaker 4>long as you're not afraid of heights or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, that does it for this edition of Bloomberg Technology.

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<v Speaker 3>Yet, what a big show, and I imagine there will

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<v Speaker 3>be another big show in twenty four hours time because

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<v Speaker 3>Apple Reports after the bell recap, all the conversations, so

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<v Speaker 3>many stories, great Bloomberg reporting on the podcast. We're putting

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<v Speaker 3>the pod on Apple's Spotify, iHeart and the Bloomberg platforms.

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<v Speaker 3>And once again, just a big thank you from Karen

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<v Speaker 3>and so many of you reach out saying that you

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<v Speaker 3>listen to the show in podcast form and we'll keep

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<v Speaker 3>bringing you that part every day. Stay tuned. So much

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<v Speaker 3>more to come, but one day left in the week.

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