1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: What's up, guys. Welcome to The Granger Smith Podcast, Episode 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: thirty six. Thank you guys so much for watching, Thanks 3 00:00:07,120 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: for listening. I'm grateful for this platform. I'm grateful for 4 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: the first amendments that I could exercise my freedom of speech. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 1: Get on here, speak to you guys, tell you what's 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: on my mind, tell you about what's going on in 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: my life, tell you about the stay of the world, 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: at least the way I see it, and to invite 9 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: some of my friends on here to chat. So, if 10 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: you're new to this podcast, thank you, Thank you for watching. 11 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 1: If you're on YouTube, and I would encourage you to 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: go backwards. This whole thing started in the back of 13 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 1: my bus on tour, and I wanted to give people 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: an idea of who I am and where I came from, 15 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: especially when it comes to music business. How we ended 16 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:55,920 Speaker 1: up here, How did ye ye come around? How did 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: I start even playing guitar? Who are my influences? That's 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: that was the inspiration behind this podcast originally. Then it 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 1: is now shifted to every Monday. We're gonna put these 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: out early every Monday, so hopefully you're commuting to work 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,639 Speaker 1: and it gives you something to do. To listen to, 22 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: to watch wire commuting to work, and it gives me 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,759 Speaker 1: a platform sometimes to answer questions, sometimes just to get 24 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 1: in front of a camera and keep you guys updated. 25 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: So regardless, thank you for all that. The world, as 26 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,960 Speaker 1: far as my world and touring is still very slow. 27 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: We're looking to get back soon. I know we have 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 1: a couple of dates in June. Those are in Texas. 29 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 1: There are some dates in July, and I would expect, 30 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 1: and I've been saying this that this will continue to 31 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: double and double and double every month until late fall 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: we're back. I mean, our December is full, so hoping 33 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: that that stays the same like it's always been. It's 34 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: going to be really fun. And as I believe, and 35 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: I kind of preach this to people, I feel like 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: we're living in a pent up economy right now. There's 37 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: a lot of people that just want to go out 38 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: and want to grab a beer and listen to a band. 39 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: I know I do, and so I feel like so 40 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: many people, especially those the majority that have not lost 41 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: their jobs unlike me, are saving money that they would 42 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:31,360 Speaker 1: have spent at the movie theater, are going out to 43 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: the bar or even going to the beach or things 44 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: like that. So I am excited that when this tour 45 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: does the floodgates open, it's going to be crazy. It's 46 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: gonna be fun. We'll be able to pack out some 47 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,919 Speaker 1: rooms again and fill that passion. I'm also going to 48 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: put an album out in the fall. I don't know 49 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: exactly when, but I do. I am looking at a 50 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: whiteboard right here that I've written all of the songs 51 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: that I know are going to go on there, and 52 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: the process that those songs are in as far as 53 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 1: what they need instrumentation wise, what they need vocally. Some 54 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: lyrics need to be tweaked tweaked, But I'm looking at 55 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: that board right here, so that that's gonna be fun. 56 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: Because when this when the flood gets open and we 57 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: do start toring like crazy, I'm gonna have a bunch 58 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 1: of new songs to play. So today is a fun 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: podcast with one of my best friends and my tour manager. 60 00:03:25,160 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 1: He is notorious on the internet, so many people know 61 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: him for his big personality and big biss. I want 62 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 1: to introduce you if you don't know him already, and 63 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: uh and hear the backstory of how we got together, 64 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 1: how we became friends, and then how we eventually became 65 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: friends that work together very closely. This is an interview 66 00:03:50,560 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: with Chris Lee did kids in dcl my tires and school. 67 00:04:29,800 --> 00:04:36,320 Speaker 1: Long line of five, four of husband dined back rang 68 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: once evage. Yeah, that gation. So the year was two thousand. 69 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: I just moved to Nashville. I moved to Nashville July first, 70 00:05:00,400 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: two thousand. I didn't know anybody there. I didn't have 71 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: any friends at all. I had a couple connections through 72 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: people that knew somebody that moved to Nashville, and then 73 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 1: I knew that you were there. I had heard that 74 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Chris Lely, the drummer from the Garland Opry, moved to 75 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: Nashville a few years before me. It was big news too. 76 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean at the time, I just you know, there 77 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: was a small group of Texans that lived there around 78 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: my age. So I went into a bar called Silverado's, 79 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 1: a dance hall, country honky tonk, and I was there 80 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: just having a few beers. And I had known I 81 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: don't know even know if you know this, but in 82 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: my desperation to have a friend, God, I went through 83 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: the Yellow Pages, which used to be a thing, Yeah, 84 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: not a thing anymore. I went through the I was sorry, 85 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: White the white Pages I already forgot. So this is 86 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: the white Pages book, the Nashville Metropolitan White Pages, And 87 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: I went through and found the Lees, and there was 88 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: like four Chris Lee's. This is a sign of the times. 89 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: I would call starting with the first one, just called 90 00:06:24,600 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: the number. Hello, Chris, yep, Chris Lee from Garland, Texas. 91 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: They'd say huh, I'd say sorry, roll number. So I 92 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,040 Speaker 1: did that four times and none of them were you. 93 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: So fast forward a few months. I'm in I'm in 94 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: this honky tonk and this guy comes up to me. 95 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: I barely recognized him. Cowboy hat. No no, no no, no, no, no, 96 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 1: you weren't cowboy hat. You were very uh slip dressed. 97 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: At the time, I believe. Okay, there's a phase I 98 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 1: was in. I guess yeah. And and this this guy 99 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: super Tank in a colder month and you said you 100 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: Granger Smith And I'm like, you know, at the time, 101 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 1: no one said that to me. I was like yeah, 102 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: and he was Chris Lee growing up and I was like, 103 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: my god, Chris, I found you, man. It was it 104 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: was a really big deal to me that I found 105 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: a guy from Texas and the guy I had been looking, 106 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 1: and we weren't really I wouldn't consider as good friends. Yeah, 107 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 1: we knew each other. We knew each other, we were 108 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: acquaintance acquaintances, and no one at the time had everybody's 109 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: social media account or phone numbers that just didn't exist. 110 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: Cell phones are actually pretty new, Like if you had 111 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,960 Speaker 1: a cell phone number, you you didn't have a long 112 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: contact list. So, needless to say, we hit it off 113 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: that day at Silverado's, had a few beers exchanged to 114 00:07:56,400 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: phone numbers, and then our our although we had known 115 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: each other probably five years before that, our real friendship 116 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: began then starting with a co write I believe was 117 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 1: the first thing we did. Yeah, so Allison, who I'm 118 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 1: still married to. We were a boyfriend and girlfriend at 119 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: the time. We invited you over to her apartment. Okay, 120 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 1: and okay, I remember I hadn't heard you play or 121 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: sing since our Garland Oprey days, which was you know, 122 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: probably three years before. Yeah, but uh yeah, we had 123 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: you come over and like, I don't even think we 124 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: were gonna write. We were just gonna play and just 125 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,319 Speaker 1: hang out and drink a few beers and everything. And 126 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 1: I like played for you a little bit, and You're 127 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: like Oh, that's great. And then you started playing and 128 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my god, I don't remember this guy 129 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: being this good back at our opery days. But something 130 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 1: happened in those couple of years. I think maybe you 131 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 1: had gotten out and started playing in your own band 132 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: and everything, but I think that might be a little 133 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 1: bit of exaggeration or you just don't remember. It was 134 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: a major lead. I mean you were, you were a good, 135 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: you know, a little singer in your your grown opry days, 136 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: but there was a drastic change. And at that point 137 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 1: I was like this, this freaking guy's gonna he's gonna 138 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: be huge. He's gonna make it. Well, so I'm still 139 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 1: waiting for you to make it, by the way, Yeah, 140 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: right Somewhere around that time, I was also needing a roommate. 141 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: I had an extra room, and so I asked you, Hey, 142 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:31,559 Speaker 1: you going to be my roommate? Yeah, And you were like, well, man, 143 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: I was kind of I'm just kind of crashing at 144 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: my girlfriend's apartment and I was kind of actually have 145 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: a whole lot going on. And I remember the one 146 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 1: time we met to write and I don't know if 147 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: you remember this or not, but I said, whatever, parking 148 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,199 Speaker 1: lot em I publishing or something. I said, meet me there. 149 00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm driving a big white truck, and you said, cool, 150 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: I'm driving a big red truck. And you pulled in 151 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 1: with the legit big Ford pick up diesel and I 152 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: was driving a just a normal fifteen hundred seventy one Chevy. 153 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: But the funny thing wasn't what what occurred to me 154 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: was that at the time I was driving a big 155 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 1: truck because no one was driving a truck in Nashville. Really, Yeah, 156 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: And another Texan comes in and actually had a legit 157 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:25,439 Speaker 1: big truck and we hit it off. Soon after, I 158 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 1: mean you moved in. It wasn't long after the Silverado's 159 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: run in. Yeah, yeah, we were. We became good buddies 160 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 1: and fellow honky tnkers. Yeah we would, so starting then 161 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: we would. We would go out together, hit the honky tonks, 162 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: hit downtown Nashville, which if y'all haven't been in downtown Nashville, 163 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: it's always a good time, and did a lot of 164 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 1: a lot of things that were pretty reckless, you know, 165 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 1: Carolins at the time. Our kids will eventually listen to this, 166 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: so we can't get into too much of that. But 167 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: we we spent our early twenties, living it to the fullest. 168 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: Put it that way. We wrote songs together. We both 169 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 1: sang together at times, and then sometimes I would sing 170 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: and you'd play drums, and then sometimes I would play 171 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: steel guitar and you would sing or play drums with Trent, 172 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: and our relationship grew basically building the backstory of us 173 00:11:27,280 --> 00:11:30,520 Speaker 1: because I don't think anybody really knows you other than 174 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,480 Speaker 1: tour manager. Ye, so there's not much else to that. Well, No, 175 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: you're you're actually a really good artist, really good songwriter. 176 00:11:39,320 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: You've always been a great singer, great guitar player. Not 177 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: just a guitar player, but just you're the kind of 178 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: guy that could pick up any instrument because you have 179 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: a really good ear. You could pick up piano, guitar, drums. 180 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 1: It's important to know that I'm not great at any 181 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 1: of those things, right, I get a little bit good. 182 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 1: It depends on who you're comparing yourself to. Compared to 183 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:03,679 Speaker 1: the rest of the world, you're a pro at all 184 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 1: those things. And I guess we also stayed really good 185 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: friends because our schedules were really different. We stayed out 186 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: of each other's way, and you had a day job 187 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: that was very demanding, and you were gone a lot, 188 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: and then we would come together on the weekends and 189 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 1: do our Shenanigans. So about two thousand and four, I 190 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: moved back from Nashville back to Texas to start a band, 191 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: asked you to come with me. You said, no, good reasons. 192 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: You know, you had roots in Nashville, you had a 193 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 1: serious girlfriend at the time who is now your wife, 194 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 1: and you had a good job, so it would have 195 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: been silly to leave with me. I was because part 196 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: of my going back was going to finish college live 197 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,839 Speaker 1: on my uncle Johnny's couch and nothing going on. I 198 00:12:53,960 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: was going to start to open Mike Night, so there's 199 00:12:55,559 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 1: nothing to go back for. So things developed you your 200 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,559 Speaker 1: career started really taking off. You became a regional manager 201 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: at a company called Syitechs. Is that right? Regional manager, 202 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: district manager, district manager. That was a hard and I 203 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 1: mean the way that you lay this out there, you 204 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 1: make it made it sound like you didn't have a 205 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,840 Speaker 1: whole lot going on in college station, and that is true. 206 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: You know, you were trying to develop some roots and everything. 207 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: But it still was a difficult decision for me not 208 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 1: to make that move because I really just as I 209 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: do today. I firmly believed in what you were doing 210 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,080 Speaker 1: and in what you were as an artist. And I 211 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: didn't know what role I was going to have in 212 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 1: that someday, but I knew I had to be a 213 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: part of it, so that that was a difficult decision 214 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:46,200 Speaker 1: for me not to make that move to College Station. 215 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: And this is coming from a diehard Texas Longhorn fan too, 216 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: moving to College Station. And that being said, College Station 217 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: has kind of always been known as a Texas music hub, 218 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 1: along with Austin and Lubbock, and there's probably a handful 219 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,560 Speaker 1: of others. So if you're playing Texas country music, you're 220 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: gonna want to live in one of the San Marcus 221 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: New Bronfuls, College Station, Austin, Lubbock, Dallas, Fort Worth. Uh. 222 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: And so that's what I guess. That's why you in 223 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: Houston's probably somewhere on that list. Yeah. Yeah. So years 224 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: go by, you get married, I go, I go to 225 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: your wedding, you have a baby. I'm starting to tour 226 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 1: a little bit more. We're barely touring at all outside 227 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: of the state of Texas, but we are going to 228 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: Nashville and doing some bar gigs, and every time we 229 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: would go to Nashville. I would crash at your house, 230 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, and we would we would catch up. But 231 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: still never really thought during that time that there was 232 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: a huge future with us past that it didn't seem 233 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 1: like it beca As your roots were getting deeper, my 234 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: connection with Texas was getting stronger, So it was a gosh. 235 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: I don't know when it was. It was actually before Meadow, 236 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: your first child, that I asked you again. In fact, 237 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: I invited you down and you came. It's a college 238 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:20,240 Speaker 1: station because I remember drinking beer at the Dixie Chicken, yep, 239 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: And I said, I want to I want to invite 240 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,400 Speaker 1: you down to join me. And I don't think I 241 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: said tour manager. I think it was like, just be 242 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: in the band or be part of it, because you're 243 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: also a really good lead guitar player, so you could 244 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: have done anything at that point. Yeah, I don't remember 245 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: what the title was. I think it was just to 246 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 1: be down there and just be a part of it, 247 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: which I oh, you know, I would have been grateful to. 248 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: My sales pitch to you was move, move everybody. Actually 249 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:52,800 Speaker 1: it's just Allison, move Alison. But Alison had a good 250 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: job and in your job was My sales pitch was 251 00:15:58,480 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 1: I know you got a good job. I know you're 252 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,640 Speaker 1: making consistent money, but you're not doing music. Man. You 253 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:06,560 Speaker 1: love that, you want to be in music, and you 254 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 1: said no again. Both of the times you said no 255 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: were really good decisions on your part. It wasn't it 256 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: was too early, but it But it's funny looking back 257 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: because then it was that was probably I don't know 258 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:24,000 Speaker 1: what year it was, but it was twenty thirteen when 259 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: things Earl Dibbles was out and which you helped write 260 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 1: the country Boy song, So you're kind of at the 261 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: ground floor of Earl Dibbles. You saw that what that 262 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: did for us as a band. And then two years 263 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: after Earl Dibbles, I asked you again, this time with 264 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: a mission to be my tour manager, because I'm sitting 265 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 1: here thinking, I don't want to hire a glorified merch guy, 266 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: no offense to merch guys. I don't want to hire that. 267 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,520 Speaker 1: Tyler was done, you know, Tyler was done with trying 268 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: to be tour manager. He was already had his eyes 269 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: set on management. And I just wanted a friend, someone 270 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: that knew me. And so I remember that phone conversation. 271 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: I said, my goal is to bring in somebody that 272 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: could they could shoot me straight all the time that 273 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:15,199 Speaker 1: supports us as a band, wants to push us, but 274 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: at the same time knows when to say, dude, shut 275 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: the hell up. You're wrong, You're wrong on this situation. Boy, 276 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: did you take that run with what? Some things never change. 277 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 1: But I remember you said, let me think about it 278 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: with al and you had two babies at home? We 279 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 1: had uh God, you lose count over the years. Do 280 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 1: you have as many as I do? We had three, 281 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: did you? Yeah? We had cannon. You had cannon. Okay, okay, yeah, 282 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,159 Speaker 1: it was twenty thirteen in March two thirty. So I 283 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: remember you said, let me think it over. You called 284 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: me and we talked. I was in Nacadoches. You laugh, 285 00:17:57,000 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 1: you because you had extended this off for a couple 286 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: of times, and I think it had kind of become 287 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: a joke to you a little bit, because I remember 288 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:06,359 Speaker 1: you kind of laughed it off when you threw it 289 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: out there. And I remember hanging up after that conversation 290 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: and I was like, why is he laughing this off? 291 00:18:14,880 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: I am going to move down there and I am 292 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: gonna take this job. One of these days. I don't 293 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:20,399 Speaker 1: know if this is the day, but I am going 294 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 1: to do it. So I felt a little bit upset, 295 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: and I remember calling you back saying, Hey, I'm taking 296 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,639 Speaker 1: this serious, just to let you know. So then that 297 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: started the conversation with Alison. And I cannot praise her 298 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:40,720 Speaker 1: enough for that move, because she loved Nashville, she loved 299 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 1: being there, she did roots, she had friends and everything. 300 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: But when I hung up with that phone conversation, she 301 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,720 Speaker 1: saw something in my eyes. She saw a spark that 302 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:52,879 Speaker 1: she hadn't seen in years, and it was the music 303 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 1: business came back calling. You know, I had settled into 304 00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 1: my normal life. I used to wear a khakis and 305 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: button up shirt and I had to tell tell them 306 00:19:02,359 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 1: what you did. And I had a great thing going. 307 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 1: I was a district manager for Syde Text, which was 308 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 1: a basically a glorified laundry company right right there. They're 309 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: great and what they did and everything, but h that's 310 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: what I did. I ran that branch. It was like 311 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: a it was kind of like a Michael Scott in 312 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,720 Speaker 1: the laundry world. You started that company as a as 313 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:27,200 Speaker 1: a temp employee, yep, delivering the linens, running the route, 314 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 1: which is grueling in my mind. Yeah, you'd get up 315 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: at what time I'd get up, like at too. Oftentimes 316 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: you and I would play down town Nashville at Tootsies, 317 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:40,159 Speaker 1: and I would go straight from playing downtown and I 318 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: would sleep in my big old truck out in the 319 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,679 Speaker 1: parking lot for an hour, and then I'd go to 320 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: work and do the same thing the next night. But yeah, 321 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: so progress through that company, and I got as far 322 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 1: as I knew I was going to get. And it 323 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 1: didn't matter what I accomplished in that company. It didn't 324 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: matter what kind of awards or you know, how high 325 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: up I was to make it. There was always something missing. 326 00:20:04,280 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: And I just had that just like you. Maybe not 327 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: to the extent you have, but I had that musical gene. 328 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 1: It is to the extent you're Otherwise you wouldn't be 329 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,399 Speaker 1: sitting here. Yeah, but I just couldn't shake it. I 330 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 1: knew I was never going to find true happiness in 331 00:20:18,359 --> 00:20:22,359 Speaker 1: my work life unless I was doing something in music. 332 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: And so that call was. I had prayed, literally prayed, 333 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: and I pray all the time, but I remember that 334 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: prayer very very distinctively a couple weeks before, and I 335 00:20:34,480 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: asked God, I said, God, if you want me to 336 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: just stay here and keep doing this and be a 337 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: district manager and stay with this company, I'll do it. 338 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: I'll be the best damn one when I didn't say 339 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: damn to God, but I'll be the best one you 340 00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 1: want me to be. But if you want me to 341 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: go do something else, and you want me to really 342 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 1: venture out and do this music stuff, give me some 343 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 1: kind of a sign. And that sign came a couple 344 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 1: of weeks later in your phone call. And I love 345 00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: telling that story because it's a it's the truth for 346 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,679 Speaker 1: one thing, and it's a it's a great example of 347 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: how you put your life and you put something into 348 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: God's hands, He's gonna direct you. Yeah, you know that 349 00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: is awesome. You you came in and you said yes. 350 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: Shocked me. I was very happy. And you came in 351 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: and you came into a situation that was kind of volatile. 352 00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:33,639 Speaker 1: You know. We were playing, we were we were in 353 00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: an old bus, old blue bus called Atlantic Express, and 354 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 1: the band was kind of unorderly, you know, and one 355 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 1: of the tasks I said was, you're you're gonna have 356 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 1: to get this band in line. We can't get them 357 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: to do anything. All they do is drink and we 358 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: need them to like that's fine, but we need them 359 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: to play the show first, and then we also need 360 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,800 Speaker 1: him to load their stuff back in the trailer when 361 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: they're done, because they had a tendency of finishing the 362 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: show and then getting drunk and disappearing. And then it 363 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 1: would be I've never heard of a band like that. Yeah, 364 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 1: it would be. It would just be a couple of 365 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: people left over to get all of their stuff and 366 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,119 Speaker 1: put it back in the trailer. So I remember when 367 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: you first came in, it was like, all right, one 368 00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,439 Speaker 1: of your jobs, man, is a doing that? And b 369 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,040 Speaker 1: you had to deal with these club owners. Yep. I 370 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: don't know how to describe them besides saying it's an 371 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: interesting bunch club owners. Nightclub owners is a is an 372 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: interesting breed, and as in most things in life, most 373 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: of them are good, really good guys, but you get it. 374 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 1: You get a few of them one out of ten. 375 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: Maybe that it's a scary situation you're trying to get 376 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: cash from a guy, especially with a band like us 377 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 1: when we were just starting to pop, we would play 378 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: a eight hundred capacity room and they would think that 379 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: no one was going to come in they would predict 380 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: a thousand or excuse me, two hundred people would come 381 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: in and we would put seven hundred and fifty and 382 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: it would shock them. And they're paying cash at the door, 383 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: So say people are paying five bucks at the door. 384 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 1: Then at the end of the night, they would estimate 385 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 1: to us, when I was still involved in that, they 386 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: would estimate how many people were there, about three fifty. 387 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 1: I'll pay I'm gonna open up this safe and then 388 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: give you a water cash. It's just beer soaked cash, 389 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:33,120 Speaker 1: you know, just a handful of it and just put 390 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: it on the desk and say, well, rebook you later. 391 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: And so part of your job at the beginning was 392 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: to go, nope, I need discounted. I need to know 393 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: why you think it's three fifty because I think it 394 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: was seven fifty. And that was That was your job 395 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: and it has changed a lot, but the original tour 396 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: manager for us, that was your job. Yeah, for sure. 397 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: I remember the getting the ban in order being a 398 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 1: huge deal. Yeah, early on. And these are great guys 399 00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,359 Speaker 1: that are most of them are all still with us, 400 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: but that was it was just kind of what band 401 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,959 Speaker 1: guys did after the show. This was back before we 402 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 1: had production guys all in hands and loaders and everything 403 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: loading up all the gear. So band was having to 404 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: do load all their stuff in play load all their 405 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: stuff out into the trailer. So they had a pretty 406 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: lengthy day. It was a tough day. But yeah, we'd 407 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: get a couple guys that would wander off, and the 408 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,800 Speaker 1: trick for me wasn't get it. If I could just 409 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: get my hands and get in front of these guys, 410 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: it was no big deal there. You know a lot 411 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: of times they just need to be reminded, Yeah, hey, 412 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: you need to go load your stuff up. But the 413 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: trick for me was right after a show, you and 414 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,680 Speaker 1: I would go to the merch table. Yes, that's right, 415 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: and so I would be pulled away from that so 416 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,600 Speaker 1: because I would sign autographs and take pictures with everyone 417 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: there every night, yep, So we would sit there for that. 418 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,679 Speaker 1: We do that merch table for two hours sometimes just 419 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: you taking pictures and do an audio ask for everybody. 420 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: And eventually I'd have one of our production guys come 421 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: up and say, Chris, can you go get so and 422 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,960 Speaker 1: so from the bar. He's not loading up any of 423 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: his stuff. And then it became kind of a tug 424 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 1: Award i'd leave the bar. So I look at our 425 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: lives now and it's like, you know, eventually when we 426 00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: start playing again, it's so much, so much easier. I 427 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: don't have to go find band guys at the end 428 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 1: of the night. And yeah, we got bigger problems. Yeah, 429 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: Tyler says, Bro, you got to get bigger problems. Yeah, 430 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: it's it's interesting because those guys would, uh, you have 431 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: to understand that them doing that. It's a lot easier, 432 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: I should say, to play a show loads of stuff 433 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: put in the trailer when there's not that many people 434 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: there and no one really cares, or if you're tired 435 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: and you're you're ready to get home. But the thing 436 00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,200 Speaker 1: was this was new to everyone. An exciting crowd that 437 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: loved us, that was packing in the doors of these 438 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: small clubs. Was very fun for the band too. So 439 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 1: you got a lot of pretty girls, a lot of 440 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: cool guys that are wanting to buy you a shot, 441 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:05,960 Speaker 1: wanting to tell you how great your guitar playing or 442 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: your drumming is or your bass playing whatever. And so 443 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: it's a huge distraction because you got a lot of it. 444 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,280 Speaker 1: You got seven hundred new friends every night. Man, I'll 445 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:21,000 Speaker 1: come everybody. You play guitar so good, picking on Todd, 446 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: Let me buy you a shot, and then that turns 447 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,439 Speaker 1: into two shots, and then some pretty girls come up 448 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 1: and they want to they want to tell you how 449 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 1: good you are, and some of the guys would want 450 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: to exchange numbers, and it was just it was overwhelming 451 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: to the ego. So it's hard to blame them for 452 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: what they were doing. They weren't just lawless, they weren't 453 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 1: just revolting against us. Yeah, but at the end of 454 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 1: the night we had to look after the crew guys, 455 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 1: and my did. So you fast forward seven years and 456 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 1: your job what did you say, how many years with these? 457 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,200 Speaker 1: It was yesterday? You texted yes, seven years yesterday, seven 458 00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: years yesterday. So your job has changed so much in 459 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 1: seven years from those days being that your responsibility to 460 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 1: now many times are managing an arena tour, right, which 461 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: is much more an arena tour for you say, it's 462 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: a Cane Brown tour, Luke bran Tor. It's much more 463 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,919 Speaker 1: hands off of the band and much more hands on 464 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 1: with the venue and the promoter for sure, and our 465 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:30,680 Speaker 1: meet and greets and radio facilitating, and yeah, it's been 466 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: it's a whirlwind. It's definitely perceived as bigger things, but 467 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,040 Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the day, it's from 468 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 1: twenty thirteen to twenty twenty. Your goal is to get 469 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: whatever vehicles you're traveling in, get them parked, get everything 470 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: loaded in, soundcheck, do a show, do a meet and greet, 471 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 1: or do a meet and greet, and then do a show, 472 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: collect money at the end of the night. I mean, 473 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: those basic principles never change. It just becomes a more 474 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 1: vast view. You a greater amount of people to deal with. Yeah, 475 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: but the principles are the same. Yeah. It might be 476 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 1: important to say too, because somebody might listen and go, man, 477 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: he met everybody at the end of the night and 478 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 1: took pictures and autographs. Why doesn't he still do that. Well, 479 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 1: there's a lot of reasons, one of them being just 480 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: the longevity of our touring life. The lifestyle of touring. 481 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: It was crushing, not just me, and it was it 482 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: was the venues had to deal with the lines of 483 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,640 Speaker 1: the people. You had to be pulled away from your 484 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: job as actually getting paid and getting the band in gear, 485 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:43,120 Speaker 1: and it became a security issue every night, which was 486 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: overstaffing venues or that were always understaffed and so and 487 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: maybe even bigger than all those was we needed to 488 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 1: go to sleep. Yeah, sure, we needed to stop and unwind. Also, 489 00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: the toll that that puts on your voice, Yeah, I 490 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: mean I would be horsed at the end of the 491 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: night just from Also, because you're a lot of these nightclubs, 492 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: the DJ keeps on playing, and the DJ even gets 493 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: louder after the live music is stopped. So here you 494 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: are at the merch table and every single person that 495 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: comes along, and you're not one of those that just 496 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: doesn't talk to people. You talk to every person that 497 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: comes through, and so you're shouting and you're screaming over 498 00:29:20,800 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: the DJ. And by the end of the night, it's 499 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: like you've done three shows. Yeah, because you've done your 500 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: ninety minutes and you've done two hours worth of screaming 501 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: at people at the merch table. So we transitioned into 502 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: meet and greets before the show, which was unheard of 503 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: at the time for us, for that level, for that level. 504 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: So we did meeting greets before and then we realized 505 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: we should probably charge money for those meet and greets. 506 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: Otherwise we're dealing with five hundred who wouldn't want to 507 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 1: go buy a ticket and go see the artist first, 508 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: and then I would if it was George Straight, So 509 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: then we put a money on it, and then we 510 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: put a limit on that. Right. But it's been a 511 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: f on evolution and I don't want to I don't 512 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: want to spend this whole conversation talking about that. I 513 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: kind of want to get into your new life as 514 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: a comedian. I want to take a quick break, quick 515 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: break from the interview with Chris. I hoping you're liking 516 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,920 Speaker 1: this podcast so far. My name is Granger Smith. This 517 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: is the Granger Smith Podcast, Episode thirty six. I want 518 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 1: to tell you just a couple things before we get 519 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 1: back to Chris. Ways to find me grangersmith dot com. 520 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: If you go right to that homepage, boom, you're going 521 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: to find out when these tours are going to start 522 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,200 Speaker 1: back up and when you can get tickets. I'm hopefully 523 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: going to announce this on social media as they start 524 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: trickling in, because they will, because we will be completely 525 00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: back to normal. It's not a matter of if it is. 526 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: When reject the idea of the new normal, the way, 527 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,800 Speaker 1: the new way of life, all that is false. Reject 528 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,280 Speaker 1: that because collectively as people we're going to come together 529 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: and realize that we could defeat any kind of enemy. 530 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 1: I want you to go to Grander Smith because you 531 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,479 Speaker 1: could you could find that I'm doing virtual meet and greets. 532 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: We typically do these on Wednesday nights, and they do 533 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: sell out quickly, but usually around Thursday or Friday. We 534 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: announced the next week when we put them on the 535 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,640 Speaker 1: website right there on the homepage, so you can get 536 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: a meet and greet with me, and it's basically holding 537 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 1: the phone and I'm basically skyping facetiming you and we 538 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: get to have a five or six seven minute conversation. 539 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: Those have been really cool. You could also find me 540 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 1: on Cameo. It's an app or website cameo dot com. 541 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: You can find me on there and you could book 542 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 1: me to give you a video, and I'll literally send 543 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: you a video saying what you want me to say, 544 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:51,960 Speaker 1: whether it's happy birthday, happy anniversary, happy graduation, get well soon, 545 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:55,920 Speaker 1: you name it. I do these daily. It's so fun. 546 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:00,400 Speaker 1: Cameo it also allows you to direct message, so we 547 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: could literally direct message text back and forth. And these 548 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: are these are ways for me to make up on income. 549 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,160 Speaker 1: So that and and I'm okay, here with you apparel. 550 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 1: But this is to try to build our touring company 551 00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: back up to take care of the guys. We still 552 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: have to pay health insurance, bus insurance, liability insurance, UH 553 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 1: bust payments, so there's there's a certain amount of business 554 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:28,960 Speaker 1: expenses that we still have to maintain to stay alive. 555 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: So I'm doing everything i can UH and it also 556 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: just allows me to to keep in touch, to keep 557 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,400 Speaker 1: in touch with you guys, and and feel your heartbeat 558 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: of what you're needing, what you're liking, what you're wunning, 559 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: and that's important. Last thing we're doing in these live streams, 560 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: and some of you might have seen them, but we're 561 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 1: gonna try to put out these live streams twice a 562 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: week and we're gonna do these on YouTube and Facebook. 563 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: You could come, you could watch it. We're gonna do 564 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: some throwback songs. Comment below if you have a song 565 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 1: request and we'll put it on the next the next 566 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: live show we do, or we're getting the guys together. 567 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 1: We're calling it live at the EE Farm. It has 568 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: been a blast. You could see the old ones on 569 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: my YouTube page and they're all free, and just like 570 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: this podcast, it's all free. We do offer a virtual 571 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: tip jar at Venmo forward Slash, granger Smith PayPal is 572 00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: info at grangersmith dot com and the cash app is 573 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: dollar sign Earl Dibbles Junior. So I do want to 574 00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: set that up and I do want to talk about 575 00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: it because in this whole crazy mess, I'm trying to 576 00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to just maintain a livelihood that we could 577 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:42,040 Speaker 1: go right into touring and boom, no problem. So I'm 578 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: definitely not asking for much. Zero dollars is totally acceptable. 579 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: One dollar is perfect. That's all we're saying. Love you guys. 580 00:33:51,920 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: Back to Chris Lee. When did Chris Game Means start. 581 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:09,839 Speaker 1: Chris Gaines has always been here. Yeah, no, you know 582 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:15,120 Speaker 1: the whole gains mantra thing. It started with weightlifting, and 583 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 1: about six or seven, about seven years ago, right before 584 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: I moved down here, I got into fitness. I started 585 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 1: looking in the mirror and I had had a couple 586 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: kids at the time. Started looking in the mirror and 587 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, God, I just I'm not going to make 588 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,040 Speaker 1: it to sixty years old. I'm not going to see 589 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:37,160 Speaker 1: these kids graduate and everything. So I knew I had 590 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,359 Speaker 1: to make some changes. So long story short, I got 591 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,120 Speaker 1: really serious about my health. When I moved down here 592 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:46,720 Speaker 1: and I started to go lift with you and Tyler, 593 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,600 Speaker 1: it became an extra motivation and extra challenge for me 594 00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: to not just be fit, but to see if I 595 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 1: can outlift you guys, which I'm still trying to do. 596 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 1: So that's when that whole thing came along. And I've 597 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:04,279 Speaker 1: always loved the Garth Brooks character Chris Gaines, I always have. 598 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,560 Speaker 1: I thought the album was cool, I thought the idea 599 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:12,279 Speaker 1: was brilliant and everything. So I liked pairing that kind 600 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: of using that little spin off with my name and 601 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 1: Chris Gaines and you know, only it spelled G A 602 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,880 Speaker 1: I n Z. So that's kind of where that started. 603 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 1: And you know, all my social media and everything was 604 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,239 Speaker 1: based around, hey, look I'm lifting weights, because it's it's 605 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: an old late weightlifting adage, right if you're if you 606 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 1: don't take an Instagram photo of you lifting weights, then 607 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,319 Speaker 1: did it really happen? So that was kind of the 608 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: what started that mess. So a few episodes ago, I 609 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,600 Speaker 1: had Dusty on here and I was telling Dusty that 610 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: he's like a sneaky, funny yeah, and I came up 611 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: because when Earl came out and people were the radio 612 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 1: would always say, you're so funny, You're so funny, Earl 613 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:01,680 Speaker 1: is so funny? Were you always so funny? Were you 614 00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,279 Speaker 1: always the class clown you were? And I would always answer, man, 615 00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not even the third or fourth funniest 616 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:11,560 Speaker 1: guy on my bus. And I throw Dusty into that 617 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: category above me because Dusty is a quiet comedian. He's 618 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: he doesn't burst open the door. And here's the joke. 619 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,000 Speaker 1: There's Dusty, we all laugh, he's we're all having a 620 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 1: conversation and he's in the background and he says something 621 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,319 Speaker 1: that just gets us really laughing. But you are the 622 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,120 Speaker 1: bust in the door with the joke guy, and that 623 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: that's not recent. You've just always been that guy for sure. 624 00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: Since the Garland Opry playing drums. You were the guy 625 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: that had the funny quip that was had people rolling 626 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,279 Speaker 1: and uh. And that that's why I recruited you for 627 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: a country boy song at the very beginning, because I 628 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: need this guy and I think you were. What were 629 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: some of your lines in that song? It was like, yeah, 630 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:02,160 Speaker 1: the math head was the most notable. I keep a 631 00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,640 Speaker 1: twelve gauge by my waterbed because the next trailer over 632 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:09,200 Speaker 1: there's a meth head. Yeah. Now I remember thinking that 633 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: and like writing it down at the time, thinking there's 634 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: no way he's going to go for this lyric. It's 635 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,080 Speaker 1: it's too far out there, but it's funny to me. Yeah. 636 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 1: So yeah, through our days in Nashville, many many years ago, 637 00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: you were writing funny songs. Yeah, you were taking either 638 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,400 Speaker 1: a popular song and making a funny parody, but not 639 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:35,160 Speaker 1: not like a silly parody, like a ridiculous version, right, 640 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 1: And then you were writing original funny songs. And it's 641 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: funny because I remember you thinking, your your grandpa, you 642 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,640 Speaker 1: your biggest advocate, your biggest fan, who is also the 643 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,200 Speaker 1: man that raised you, taught you to be a man, 644 00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:55,680 Speaker 1: taught you everything you know from birth, and you felt 645 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 1: a little bit of regret because he was a musician 646 00:37:58,200 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: and loved country music. You felt a little bit of 647 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,399 Speaker 1: regret to write funny songs where you could be using 648 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,280 Speaker 1: that talent to write serious songs to change people's lives. 649 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: It's funny. What I learned with Earl is that you 650 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: can change people's lives being funny. Also, Yeah, absolutely, a 651 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,840 Speaker 1: smile is a cure to many many ailments. So you 652 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: were you were always funny, but then you started a 653 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 1: YouTube channel You're keep meanwhile, you're keeping us laughing constantly 654 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,960 Speaker 1: on the road and the bus. But you started a 655 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:34,000 Speaker 1: YouTube channel about really fitness and weightlifting, and the funny 656 00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: pieces of that started to evolve into a comedy channel. 657 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: And then you told me a few years ago that 658 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,080 Speaker 1: I never knew about you that you actually had a 659 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:49,120 Speaker 1: dream of yourself being a stand up comedian. Yeah, for sure, 660 00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 1: and that so tell me how that what that is now, 661 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 1: and how your YouTube page looks now and the direction 662 00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: that you want to take that. Yeah. Obviously I like 663 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: the weightlifting aspect of the channel and everything, but I 664 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:10,760 Speaker 1: found myself only enjoying doing the funny parts of it. 665 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,000 Speaker 1: And I kept asking myself, am I contributing in a 666 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: positive manner really with this weightlifting because there are a 667 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 1: gazillion weightlifting channels out there, And I noticed that I 668 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: didn't have the passion for the weightlifting part of it. 669 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 1: I really had the passion for making people laugh. And 670 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,360 Speaker 1: I've always had that. I mean, going from getting in 671 00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:36,799 Speaker 1: trouble in Sunday School for cracking jokes and making people 672 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: laugh and everything. That's always just been a part of me. 673 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: And so I thought, you know, I can contribute to 674 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,040 Speaker 1: this world, and it doesn't have to be in a 675 00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 1: serious manner, because who doesn't need a smile this day 676 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,239 Speaker 1: and age, right, And if I could put a little 677 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: something out there, bring a smile to somebody's face, make 678 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: them chuck a little bit, I've made a contribution. That's everything. 679 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:06,480 Speaker 1: That's everything. So what's your YouTube channel? YouTube channel is 680 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,040 Speaker 1: Chris Gaines g A I n Z comedy. Yeah, how 681 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: often are you putting out videos? And when did the songs? 682 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:16,839 Speaker 1: Because you know, I'm all about the songs. I love 683 00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:19,600 Speaker 1: like you should do nothing but songs like it takes time. 684 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: I love when you do the song. So what's your 685 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:25,200 Speaker 1: plan with this channel? And it's definitely taken on a 686 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: new life with this whole shutdown. Yeah, for sure. The 687 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,200 Speaker 1: plan is so I do a weekly video. Every Tuesday, 688 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: I put a new video out. My goal is to 689 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: put a new song out every month. I just put 690 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:44,239 Speaker 1: the Frozen parody out last week. So my goal with 691 00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,319 Speaker 1: that is just to do a song every month, to 692 00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 1: do a new video every week, and I'm going to 693 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,960 Speaker 1: keep making these funny videos as long as people keep 694 00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: watching them. I legitimately enjoy doing this stuff. I mean, 695 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: it just fuels my creative juices. I have a good 696 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 1: time with it. And like I said, if I can 697 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 1: bring a smile to somebody's face, make somebody laugh and 698 00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: I feel like I've done something, it's awesome. It's really 699 00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,000 Speaker 1: good too. So if you guys haven't seen it, go 700 00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:12,480 Speaker 1: check out his YouTube page and then comment on his 701 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: latest video Granger Smith Podcast, so that we know it worked. Yeah, 702 00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:23,760 Speaker 1: we know the engagement worked. Man. I'm just even thinking 703 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: about the twenty five years that we've known each other 704 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 1: and the evolution in our friendship. I'm excited to see 705 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 1: what the next twenty five will bring. And we've gone 706 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 1: from work partners to friends back to work partners slash friends. Also, 707 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 1: we don't have a whole lot of work now as 708 00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: far as tour management side. You do a few things 709 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,719 Speaker 1: schedule wise. I've seen them, and I'm not going to 710 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,319 Speaker 1: mention specifics, but I've seen a couple of shows come 711 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 1: through on email this week and I'm just a static. Yeah, 712 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,239 Speaker 1: it's like, my favorite part of this week this week 713 00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: is getting those emails and being able to enter them 714 00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,760 Speaker 1: into our schedule. And I love that you love touring 715 00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: you have a massive passion for touring, for being on 716 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:16,600 Speaker 1: the road, for basically managing the entire touring operation. And 717 00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,840 Speaker 1: if you ever wonder what personal manager does versus a 718 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,200 Speaker 1: tour manager, it's exactly in the title personal manager, which 719 00:42:23,239 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: is Tyler manages my music life and Chris is in 720 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 1: charge of the tour. And it's it's really refreshing to 721 00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: see some one that loves their job like you do 722 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: and so passionate about it, and that is diligent in 723 00:42:37,239 --> 00:42:40,719 Speaker 1: staying and just growing that because I've even speaking of 724 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:43,319 Speaker 1: job offers. I've even talked to you before about Hey, 725 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: do you want me to we could open something up 726 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:49,200 Speaker 1: in EEE Apparel. As ee Apparel continues to grow, eventually 727 00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,520 Speaker 1: we're going to need a warehouse manager of that sort, 728 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 1: and that would provide you an opportunity to get off 729 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: the road, maybe make the same money, but still be 730 00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: involved in the team, but not travel. You're like, nope, 731 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: I like I love the show man I do. I 732 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 1: love going to new towns, I love meeting fans. I 733 00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,359 Speaker 1: love to see your growth as an artist. I'm gonna 734 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,799 Speaker 1: see this thing through. You know, as long as you 735 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,880 Speaker 1: keep doing this, I'm going to be right there, unless 736 00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,439 Speaker 1: you get rid of me, which would be silly. I've 737 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: tried to a couples. Eventually, everyone does it. Something We 738 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: have fought like brothers and h but more often we 739 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: have fought on the same side verse bad patrons and 740 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 1: bad club owners. We have we have carried people out, 741 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 1: or I've at least watched you carried people out. It 742 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,720 Speaker 1: hasn't happened lately, no, thank god. But Hayes, Kansas, twenty fourteen, 743 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 1: many many stories. If you guys want to hear some 744 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,879 Speaker 1: more of these stories, comment below. We'll get Chris back on. 745 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll do an episode of just road Stories, Just 746 00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:02,120 Speaker 1: tour Stories, the good and the bad. So anyway, I 747 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: hope you come back man again. Thanks for having me, 748 00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,879 Speaker 1: and we'll do it next time, maybe on the bus 749 00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: when we're deep into toury. Yeah, I like the sound 750 00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 1: of that. See you guys,