1 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha and welcome to Stephane. 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Never told your prediction of I heart radio. 3 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 2: And you know what, I feel like, this is starting 4 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: to be a tradition around the holidays. I think where 5 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: I need to do a throwback and this one went 6 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 2: to the two thousands. The odts literally zero zero looking 7 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 2: at the old days, and I guess what we used 8 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: to think about the holidays or this movie specifically, maybe 9 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: what the person from the UK you may think of 10 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,080 Speaker 2: as a US Thanksgiving. I'm gonna put a big question 11 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 2: to Mark there, which is funny because I have a 12 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,919 Speaker 2: good friend who moved from Georgia to the UK and 13 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: she hosts a Thanksgiving there every year and the people 14 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 2: they love it, Her friends UK friends love it and 15 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: look forward to it every year, even though that's not 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 2: a thing that they do, which I thought was quite funny. 17 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,679 Speaker 2: But yeah, so we're talking about the movie What's Cooking, 18 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 2: which doesn't have a great rating. Annie. I noticed that 19 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 2: when I was like, oh, yeah, it has like fifty 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 2: eight percent rotten tomatoes. Maybe it's because it's so old 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 2: and ron tomatoes wasn't around at that point. Right now, 22 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: I actually don't know. I thought it was a newer thing. 23 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: Newer I say that loosely. 24 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:29,680 Speaker 3: I will say that. 25 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: You suggested four movies, right, because we were looking for 26 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: like Thanksgiving movies, and I watched the trailer for all 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: of them, and all of them I was actually like, 28 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,000 Speaker 1: I kind of do want to watch this? And I 29 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: looked up all of their their percentages, and all of 30 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: them were pretty good. But I didn't look at Rotten Tomatoes, 31 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: so I don't know, but all of them were pretty good. 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 2: I like the question mark pretty good ish and yeah. 33 00:01:57,200 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: So this movie that I gave you a long lest 34 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 2: that I was like, this looks pretty, you know, on 35 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 2: point with what we would would look at in time 36 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 2: was directed by Grinder Chada, who also wrote and directed 37 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 2: of Course my all time one of my all time favorites, 38 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 2: which we've talked about before, which we featured bend It 39 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: like Beckham, as well as a bigger throwback for me, 40 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 2: Bride and Prejudice, which came I think after this one though, 41 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: because I didn't watch it until I was in college. 42 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: I was really into Bollywood for a while and brid 43 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,959 Speaker 2: and Prejudice it hit. There's so many lines I can't 44 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: remember it like, I loved it. But Chata has helped 45 00:02:33,919 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 2: also helped to write this along with Paul Mayatta Burgess. 46 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 2: Sorry if I said that wrong. Who is the husband? 47 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 2: I didn't realize they were married. It also co wrote 48 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 2: bend It like Beckham, so he is American, so maybe 49 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: his perspective also helped. But I found that interesting that 50 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,200 Speaker 2: this is who did this. The movie revolves around four 51 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 2: diverse as it has written in many reviews, diverse family 52 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: all coming to celebrate Thanksgiving and the many family interactions 53 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 2: that that involves. We have Joan Chin as the matriarch 54 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 2: of the Nunn family, who uh trin is her name 55 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 2: is a Vitnamese family who lives with her husband Douck, 56 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: grandma and grandpa, and children Jimmy who's the oldest, Jenny, Gary, 57 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 2: and Joey, which I think maybe most of them are 58 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: not Vietnamese. They range like Joan Chin is Chinese. Apparently, Jimmy, 59 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,360 Speaker 2: who is played I forgot who played by is Korean. 60 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 2: I was like, huh, they couldn't find Okay, it's okay, 61 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 2: it's okay, it's okay. Moving on. And then we have 62 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: the Selig family, a Jewish family with Ruth played by 63 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:48,320 Speaker 2: Laine Kazan who you may know her from My Fat, 64 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 2: My big Fat Greek Wedding. Which have we done that one? 65 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: We have seen that movie. 66 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 2: We're coming back to that. We haven't done this. Oh okay, 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 2: everybody put that in your calendar because it is coming 68 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 2: with her husband, herbie daughter Rachel played by Kia Sedgwick, 69 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: her girlfriend Carla played by Juliana Markaalisee, and her two 70 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 2: sons with the and uncle joining the dinner and as 71 00:04:18,080 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 2: per Momos things, Yeah, it's played by Sis Heterinordi of people. 72 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: And I don't know is Kia Sedgwick. It doesn't matter, 73 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,359 Speaker 2: But I don't think they're like when we talk about 74 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 2: the layers of who plays what, you're like, they really 75 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: didn't care about accuracy in the sure. I don't think 76 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 2: I say this, but you know. 77 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: Then we have the a via the family Latino family 78 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: led by the mother Elizabeth played bar Mercedes role with 79 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: her children Tony and Gina and her mother and siblings 80 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 1: all added in the mix and then also added to 81 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: the chaos as the ex husband Javier and the new 82 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: boyfriend Daniel. And then we have the Williams family headed 83 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 1: by Alfred Widard who plays Audrey with her husband, Ronald 84 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 1: and her son Michael, with the mother in law, Grace 85 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:08,840 Speaker 1: and her youngest child, and joining them is a white 86 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: couple who works with Ronald at the Governor's office. 87 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: Right, Okay, now that we somewhat introduce the families, let's 88 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: talk about the plot. So, as we said, the movie 89 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 2: follows four families who are coming together to eat and 90 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 2: continue with their holiday traditions. We get to see the 91 00:05:28,040 --> 00:05:30,640 Speaker 2: lives that are somewhat intertwined as they all live in 92 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: la and are all neighbors, which I didn't figure out 93 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: till much later. I was like, oh, what I had 94 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 2: that moment. They are all bustling about making them their 95 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: way through grocery stores, phone calls, and traveling to get 96 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: to the actual festivities. We're going to start with the 97 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 2: different families and what they're doing. So the Nwinn family, 98 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 2: who own a local video rental store. What a throwback, right, 99 00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:00,919 Speaker 2: all vhs and the clear plastic holders all remember those? 100 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:03,800 Speaker 2: Okay that was the four Blockbuster covered them all up 101 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 2: or had the black black cases because sometimes you're like, 102 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 2: is it the actual movie? Anyway, They're coming together to 103 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 2: make their meal, a mix of Vietnamese cuisine with American cuisine, 104 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: a turkey with all the good Asian spices, basil roles 105 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 2: which looked really good by the way spring rolls, and 106 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 2: so much more on the table. Unfortunately, they find out 107 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 2: that the oldest Jimmy can't come due to school, but 108 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: it turns out it's a lie, as he wants to 109 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 2: go with his new girlfriend to her family celebration. More 110 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 2: on that in a minute. He is a stable part 111 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: of their family, someone they rely on not only as 112 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,799 Speaker 2: the college student, but as the oldest brother. The parents 113 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 2: ask him to help and to talk with the younger 114 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 2: siblings as well. And by the way, the other son 115 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 2: has recently gotten into trouble at school and has been suspended. 116 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: All the while, the young daughter has been distracted by 117 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 2: boys and makeup. They accuse her for being trampy, I 118 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 2: guess is the best word, because they call her different 119 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 2: things throughout. Soon we have a big twist and find 120 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:05,560 Speaker 2: out that the Sun has a gun under his bed, 121 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 2: which his sister finds and immediately panics, taking it with 122 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 2: her to the video store. After a whole mess where 123 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: the parents discovered that Jenny has a white boyfriend and 124 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,720 Speaker 2: maybe having sex. Insert earlier discovery of condoms in her pockets. 125 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 2: She confronts the brother Gary, who says he's only holding 126 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: it for a friend who was recently jumped. And y'all, 127 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: the acting in this part was something. 128 00:07:30,440 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: It was and I have a funny story about it later. 129 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: So moving on to the Avilla family, A part of 130 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: the connectedness of the plot is Gina, daughter to Elizabeth, 131 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: is dating Jimmy, the oldest of the wind family, and 132 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: is bringing him home for dinner. Before the dinner, however, 133 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: we discover that she's got a new boyfriend. 134 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 2: Mom's got a new boyfriend. 135 00:07:54,000 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, the mom has a new boyfriend. 136 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: Tony and his wife run into his father at the 137 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 1: grocery store, where he awkwardly invites him to dinner. The 138 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: dad is like, well, I have nowhere to go, and 139 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: Tony's like, all right, come on. After talking with his mother, 140 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: he tries to uninvite him. He says he left a 141 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: message because the dad had had Javier had had an 142 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: affair with the mom the matrix cousin and left them, 143 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: but you know whatever, and Jimmy arrive and everyone seems 144 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: to warm up to Jimmy after some awkward racist moments 145 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:39,160 Speaker 1: of talking about Bruce, Lee and Jackie chan. Elizabeth lets 146 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 1: Gina know that the new boyfriend, Daniel would be stopping 147 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:47,319 Speaker 1: by Ford Dessert, which Gina has mixed feelings about. As 148 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: they all sit together, Javier the father shows up with 149 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: very little remorse and tries to win back Elizabeth. Then 150 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: Daniel shows up and the whole thing is even more awkward. 151 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: They said it opposite, isn't stable. After a bit of 152 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 1: back and forth, Javier leaves after Elizabeth lets him know 153 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: she doesn't want to take him back and also, yes, 154 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: the grandmother was amazing. 155 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: She was very like, why are you here? To get 156 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:14,000 Speaker 3: out of here? 157 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 2: She? I loved her defending the whole. It was definitely 158 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 2: a whole women versus men. In this scene where the 159 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 2: women were taking up for her, the mother be like hey, 160 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 2: while the men were like but but but yes. 161 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: That's when I because I texted you and I was like, 162 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: I feel like all these holiday movies are telling me 163 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: men are terrible. 164 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: It was that scene where I was like, this is. 165 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: There's several there's several things. Scenes were like, yeah, men 166 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 2: are the worst, so let's just put that out there. 167 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: Then we had the Williams family. Dear Audrey is scrambling 168 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 2: trying to make the perfect Thanksgiving Day dinner. Her husband 169 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: is currently at work where he works for the Governor 170 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: of California. Previously, we see the governor at an event 171 00:09:55,320 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 2: where he is questioned about his policies concerning the quote underprivileged. 172 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 2: As he's ab to leave, he is splashed with white paint, 173 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 2: with one of one of the attackers being Ronald and 174 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: Audrey's son Michael, and as Audrey is preparing dinner, she 175 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 2: is watched and quote assistance upon that end quotes by 176 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: her mother in law, who is portrayed as the typical 177 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: mother in law in this the nagging woman, which you 178 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 2: know you gotta have one, I guess. The work couple, 179 00:10:25,480 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 2: who are friends, arrives with their daughter's slash stepdaughter, who 180 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 2: has a lot of attitude and is similarly dressed to 181 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 2: the craft cast. I appreciated that that may amo dark 182 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 2: and during their dinner, the turkey ends up falling through 183 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 2: the table, causing Audrey quite a bit of stress, but 184 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: we have them rallying together to fix it and it 185 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 2: still looks quite delicious. They're eating green beans off the floor, 186 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 2: so there's him. 187 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 3: Fine. 188 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 2: The son, Michael shows up to all of their surprise 189 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 2: and it turns out the relationship between the father and 190 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 2: son is strained, which has caused a lot of problems 191 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 2: for the entire family. He debates about school and politics 192 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 2: arise with an explosive remark from the son about the 193 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:10,439 Speaker 2: father's affair with a woman in the office. Audrey runs 194 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: into the kitchen to eat dessert as Michael tries to apologize. 195 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 2: The mother in law chastises Ronald but insists they need 196 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 2: to stay together and fix it. 197 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: Okay, I've seen this also, I really appreciated her aggressive 198 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: eating of the pie. 199 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: Yes, she was so upset that all she was like, 200 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: just couldn't do it. I got a dessert. I understand 201 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: that feelings. I do too. 202 00:11:32,880 --> 00:11:36,680 Speaker 1: So then we move on to the Selog family. Rachel 203 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 1: arrives with her girlfriend Carla, and already they are being 204 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: mistaken us sisters. So they enter the house together in 205 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: battle mode like they've clearly kind of knew this was 206 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: probably gonna happen. The parents accept their relationship, they still 207 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: have a hard time with it. In a conversation between 208 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: the parents, we see the mother crime because she thinks 209 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,200 Speaker 1: her daughter won't be able to have a happy family. Meanwhile, 210 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: we see Rachel and Carla in their twin beds that 211 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 1: they have pushed together, talking about the family and how 212 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: to deal with everything. The following day, as they help 213 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,199 Speaker 1: the mother put together the dinner, Carla tries her best 214 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: to get to know them and even endures a whole 215 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:18,839 Speaker 1: speech about the jacuzzi from Rachel's father about how much 216 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: he loves it and the temperature and very minor temperature differences. 217 00:12:23,960 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: Carla and her mother have a good relationship from what 218 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: we witness, and Rachel seems to like her a lot 219 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: as well, which seems to bring some feelings out in 220 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: her mom. Later we find out that the aunt and 221 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 1: uncle are joining and the parents have requested that Rachel 222 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: and Carla not mention that they are in a relationship together. 223 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:49,000 Speaker 1: As a family gathers, talks of politics and how Elia 224 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,679 Speaker 1: has changed come up, and it gets really tense as 225 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 1: the conversation gets more heated. But at the height of 226 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: the conversation, Rachel makes an announcement that she is pregnant, 227 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: and confusion and shock ensues, the mother and father trying 228 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: to figure out how this happened and advertedly outing them, 229 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,280 Speaker 1: which soon leads to the outing of her brother, who 230 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: was the sperm donor right. 231 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 2: I did appreciate the other brother who his women and 232 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 2: his wife and the kids come. I did appreciate that 233 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 2: they're very supportive, but also the fact that they also 234 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 2: were getting some shit as the uncle were like, when's 235 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: the third baby coming? God, it was quite nice. I 236 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 2: was like, Oh, everybody gets it. Everybody gets it. As 237 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 2: all the dinners are coming to an end, we go 238 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 2: back to see the Wynn family, whose turkey was burned 239 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 2: so they had to order KFC, which I thought was delightful, 240 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: and apparently the youngest did too. It was very excited 241 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 2: about this chicken. During the mill, Gary's friends show up, 242 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: which worries Ginny, who announces that Gary was hiding a 243 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 2: gun and just lays it on the table because why not. 244 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,160 Speaker 2: After a lot of arguing, the youngest and they leave 245 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 2: the table, the youngest comes out, who was very excited 246 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: about the chicken, sees the gun, rabs it and plays 247 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,720 Speaker 2: with it and it goes off. After a very intense 248 00:14:03,760 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 2: moment of like this is a PG thirteen movie, kill 249 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 2: the youngest child off. I had that debate back and 250 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 2: forth of the like what the hell and realizing this 251 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 2: is quickly turning into an after school special that I've 252 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 2: seen before. I feel like. We soon find out that 253 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: the families all live caddy corner to each other. Literally, 254 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,600 Speaker 2: each one of it lives on a corner that faces 255 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 2: one another, which is hilarious, being like, how would they 256 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 2: not known each other? How how would they There's so 257 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: many questions I had, but I just looked it. But 258 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 2: that the gun had gone off and everybody heard it. Jimmy, 259 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 2: realizing that it came from his house, runs to the 260 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 2: home again he had lied that he's not coming home. 261 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: A lot more confusion. We find out that everyone is 262 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: safe and the gun has shot out the window. At 263 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: this point, Jimmy introduces everyone to his his family, to 264 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: his girlfriend Gina, who again lives across the way, who 265 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: was accepted into the family. They're like, oh, she looks Vietnamese. 266 00:14:57,000 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 2: Welcome to the family. Uh. And then we have Ronald 267 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 2: who talks to Michael about the future and his own 268 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: experiences about how it's hard not having an education and 269 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: being a black person in the community and what that 270 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: looks like blah blah blah. And then we have the 271 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 2: Sea leagues, who are all a bit confused, but more 272 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 2: distracted by the recent gunshot and then the avelis continue 273 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 2: on with their dessert like it's just yay in the 274 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 2: story Happy Holiday. 275 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 3: So can I tell you? 276 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: I watched this last night and I had to watch 277 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 1: it with ads, so it was taking longer than I thought. 278 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: And one of my good friends came over for like 279 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: the final i'd say ten minutes because we were going 280 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: to go see the new Thanksgiving movie, which I did 281 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: see night, and I didn't know this gun thing was 282 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: gonna happen. And my poor friend shows up for the 283 00:15:57,120 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: last ten minutes of this movie and it was like, what. 284 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 3: Are you watching? Like I don't know. 285 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: Understand, but it was so funny because I couldn't have anticipated. 286 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 3: This, and that's the only part she saw. Then we 287 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 3: went to go see this other movie in. 288 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 2: The Lads of Chakra. 289 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 3: I'm sure it was quite a day. That's funny. 290 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the entire setup was odd. It is an hour 291 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:27,280 Speaker 2: and forty five fifty minutes long. I think it is 292 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 2: your tip. It is on not not a sponsor Amazon 293 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 2: Prime with ads. I also, I've never seen this movie either. 294 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 2: I just picked. We were like we need to do 295 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,920 Speaker 2: a Thanksgiving Day movie. Let's be silly watch this and 296 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 2: this has four matriarchs. I honestly thought they all came together. 297 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 2: That's what I had envisioned, and then it turned out 298 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 2: none of that was happening. Was like, okay, okay. I 299 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,160 Speaker 2: feel like the most diverse of the two would have 300 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: been the Avila's and the Winds doing their things. So like, 301 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: oh at Lisa's cold. Okay, okay, cool, cool to have 302 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,160 Speaker 2: an Asian family as part of the star as. In fact, 303 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,840 Speaker 2: Joan Chen was kind of uh named as if she 304 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 2: was the star of the show, which is not true 305 00:17:08,119 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 2: because she's she's barely in it compared to the rest 306 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 2: of them. But I digress. So there's a lot again. 307 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 2: Finding out that it was bended, like Beckham creators really 308 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,720 Speaker 2: threw me off because like they really wanted to tell 309 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 2: an American story that's interesting about Thanksgiving, that's interesting, And 310 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: of course we did have a couple of conversations about 311 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 2: like you know, the goth girl talking about how you know, 312 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 2: millions of Native Americans, first indigenous people were murdered and 313 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:38,679 Speaker 2: killed my disease. I was like, okay, hey, lids say, 314 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 2: I guess they added that in there. UH did love 315 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: the fact that she during their like we're playing house. 316 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: She's like, I'm going to be the alcoholics that mother 317 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:53,119 Speaker 2: cult worship based that mother and because we're like, uh 318 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: okay cool, and the grandma was too. So there's a 319 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 2: lot to that in that level. But but yeah, there 320 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: were several themes, and I think there was more like, 321 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 2: oh yeah, I get this, so obviously the very top 322 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 2: is the holidays and families togetherness and Jimmy lying about 323 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,399 Speaker 2: going home and why he couldn't come home. I may 324 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 2: have done that like as of like three years ago, 325 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 2: to be honest, not for a mate, but like just because. 326 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean they definitely. 327 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: It was kind of shocking how accurately I felt they 328 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 1: captured the vibe of the drama of families during this time, 329 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: of like the politics of it, of the like ugh, 330 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to deal with this person, of the 331 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: asking you like if you're single when you're gonna have kids, 332 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: like all of those. 333 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:52,880 Speaker 3: Like things we dread and may lie about to get. 334 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: Out of and feel guilty about lying about to get 335 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 1: out of, and then like visiting another partner's family and yes, 336 00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 1: be on. 337 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 3: The outliers there, right. 338 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: I loved of course, like at least they had LGBTQ representation, 339 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 2: and it was sweet, very nice kind of representation where 340 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 2: they're supportive and not trying to be over the top. 341 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,360 Speaker 2: Of course, the partner is the one that's like, don't 342 00:19:17,359 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 2: say anything, don't argue with your dad about the politics, 343 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 2: thing about the immigrations and all the all the things, 344 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: which I was like, oh, there comes, of course inevitably, 345 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 2: that's the conversation. You know. I've talked about the fact 346 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 2: that I get scared of going because that's gonna come up, 347 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 2: and typically it gets worse. It hasn't been as bad 348 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,160 Speaker 2: when it's been at its worst, like the Trump administration. 349 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: My brother did the only thing, which was like, I'm 350 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,240 Speaker 2: going to buy you a Maga hat, and I kind 351 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 2: of just stared at him. I was like, I don't care. 352 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 2: And we didn't say anything else. Of course, like we 353 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:51,760 Speaker 2: said like, I've already had my arguments with my mom 354 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: and it was so bad that my mom was I 355 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,479 Speaker 2: think like begged everyone not to say anything. But apparently 356 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,399 Speaker 2: political conversations happened when I'm not around. Yeah, because my 357 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:03,320 Speaker 2: niece have had to had to deal with that, I'm like, oh, 358 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 2: bless her heart, but yeah, that's one of the big 359 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 2: I hate. I hate it so much. I will say, 360 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,959 Speaker 2: as much as like I love, I'd rather go to 361 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 2: my partner's family m any day all day because we're 362 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: all very similar. The father does play news constantly to 363 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: the fiend, and I'm like, I'm gonna lose it. I'm 364 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 2: gonna lose it. Yeah, I'm gonna lose it. But it's 365 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 2: not because necessarily that he's arguing with anybody, because everybody 366 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: pretty much agrees right on all the stances there. But 367 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 2: it's just like I still don't want to hear it. 368 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,119 Speaker 2: Even if it is things that I more agree with, 369 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 2: I don't want to hear it. 370 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's kind of me with my older brother, 371 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:46,840 Speaker 1: because my brothers are both very very like all day 372 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: listening to the stuff like that, and I do agree 373 00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: with most of it. I don't agree with some of it, 374 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,160 Speaker 1: but but it it is like I will literally go 375 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: home because they're both like night owls. He'll be four 376 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: am and I'm just listening to something about Donald Trump, 377 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:08,880 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I just want to sleep, Please please 378 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:12,560 Speaker 1: off because I can now and now my heart is 379 00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: beating really fast. 380 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, politics bad, hearing news even worse. Right, 381 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: I think that's the one thing that they were missing. 382 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: They need to add that. Now, if they did a 383 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 2: remake of this, they add that the one uncle that 384 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 2: sleeps in the couch that he listens to the news time. 385 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:34,120 Speaker 2: Another theme which we've talked about as a full episode, 386 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,679 Speaker 2: women preparing the dinner. It was only the women the 387 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: entire time. Jimmy, Dear Jimmy, and I think this is 388 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 2: being the oldest child comes in to play, came in 389 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 2: and helped, and I was like, that's super cute like that, 390 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:47,600 Speaker 2: and they were all like bragging about how he's so 391 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,679 Speaker 2: great and doing this. But then like the brother Tony 392 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,399 Speaker 2: was like, can you give me a beer hunt to 393 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: the wife, And I'm like, I'll punch you in the throat. 394 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 2: But we know that's the thing. 395 00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel subsition that that stuck out to me 396 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: was like, as someone who does do this, it's so 397 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: frustrating sometimes it's just like. 398 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 2: A lot of work. 399 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,360 Speaker 1: I don't think, because I did love that they showed 400 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 1: the making of the like tamal Is and the making 401 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: of the spring rolls and like kind of it was 402 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: more communal than I'm used to, and so I don't 403 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,399 Speaker 1: think there's necessarily anything wrong with that, because I do 404 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: think there is something like a sort of bonding that 405 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: happens over that. 406 00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:31,800 Speaker 3: But I don't. 407 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: I hate the like assumption you'll do it, and the 408 00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:39,159 Speaker 1: like not caring, like not being at least somewhat like 409 00:22:39,280 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 1: this took a lot of work. 410 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 3: I had to plan all of this. I had to 411 00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: do all of this right now. 412 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 1: The turkeys on the floor like yeah. 413 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 2: And the person during that William's dinner was the friend 414 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: the white woman being the one that was like, this 415 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 2: is so looks amazing, you did so amazing. She was 416 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 2: the only one really complimenting the entire thing to the 417 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 2: level it should be complimented. But it does remind me 418 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: like my own home. We do come together because most 419 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,960 Speaker 2: of the children are grown, uh, and they help with 420 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: the food. 421 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 4: I do not. 422 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 2: I'm the one who brings, like the rolls and the 423 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 2: dessert and the the cokes and the drinks. Rather yes, 424 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,240 Speaker 2: I'm very sullent the cookes. But recently my partner has 425 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:21,240 Speaker 2: proved himself as a cook, so it has now become 426 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:23,960 Speaker 2: a part of that too. And the last time we went, 427 00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 2: he went and helped in the kitchen and whatever I 428 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 2: was helping too, like we were both in there, but 429 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: they were just like kind of like Jimmy, They're like, whoa, yeah, 430 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 2: what are you doing in here? Are you you want 431 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,720 Speaker 2: to help? Like to that level, and all was like, yeah, yeah, 432 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 2: I guess I got a good and then moving on 433 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 2: the matriarchy obviously the overlaying the plot of the entire thing, 434 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 2: whether they're steering the conversation, they're steering the mood, they're 435 00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: steering the dinner, and or disappointment, however you want to 436 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: look at it. They were the main focus of the 437 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 2: entire thing. We had men coming in trying to be men, 438 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 2: but the women pretty much, whether it was the grandma too, 439 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: so the wind family, it was the grandma, Like the 440 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 2: grandpa was sitting there watching Pamela in Orson, which I 441 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 2: didn't appreciate it. Yeah, yes, as a whole throwback, but 442 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 2: like you know, the grandma wasn't there comforting the kids, 443 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,679 Speaker 2: helping with the dinner, making sure everybody was okay, Like 444 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:22,360 Speaker 2: she was a big part of that too. 445 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 446 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it definitely was kind of you had the 447 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 1: woman leading the family on this day and trying to 448 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: bring the family together. It was interesting to me because 449 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: I feel like my family dynamics are very different. Like 450 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 1: maybe actually, maybe it's just me. I can't imagine telling my. 451 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: Mom I wasn't coming home for the holidays. I did 452 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: it once. I did it once, and I made like 453 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 3: a meal for her to tell her. 454 00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: That I wasn't coming, like a fancy meal. 455 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a different dynamic because you are a 456 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: smaller family. Yeah, so then that makes a little bit 457 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: of a difference. But yeah, that's still like a different 458 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 2: part for you too. Yeah, I was thinking too. With 459 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 2: like the Villa family, she makes everything. She might not 460 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,040 Speaker 2: be the loud one that takes over the conversation, but 461 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,439 Speaker 2: she quietly maintains. So she's still welcoming to Hobbyer even 462 00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 2: though she was like, I don't want him here, right, 463 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,439 Speaker 2: She didn't ask for permission for Daniel to be there, 464 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 2: but Daniel showed up and she made she be like 465 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: you're ready, like doing all those things. She was ridiculously 466 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,440 Speaker 2: reserved for that situation. 467 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,879 Speaker 1: To me, Oh, I was outraged. I was outraged on 468 00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: her behalf. I was like, these dudes suck in your life? 469 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 2: Are these men? Why? For the williams Audrey was completely 470 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 2: by herself, with the in law hosting the in law 471 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: as well, which has been a big conversation. There was 472 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 2: a reason video and TikTok where a dude was like, 473 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 2: I'm bringing to my mom. She's like, no, you're not 474 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 2: her grandma. He's like, no, you're not unless you're willing 475 00:25:58,520 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 2: to take care of her because if not, I'm going 476 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: to be the taking care of her. On top of 477 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 2: so we are not agreed, like there are so many 478 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 2: he's like, I'm men at this house. He's like, no, 479 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: I'm taking care of this house. So but this level 480 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 2: like who's taking care of whom and who responsibility and 481 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 2: who it always falls on no matter what. Maybe the 482 00:26:13,160 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 2: conversation not that like it's a taxing thing to have 483 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 2: to double women. And then if you are like opposition 484 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 2: and it feels like you're competing with each other, which 485 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 2: is that's what this felt like, it could become the problem, which, 486 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 2: of course. 487 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I've said this before. 488 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: In my family and I feel like a lot of families. 489 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 1: My mom would cook the whole thing and then a man, 490 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,439 Speaker 1: not always my dad, a man would come in and 491 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:51,119 Speaker 1: he would cut the turkey, and it would be like, 492 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: look at what he's done. And one year, literally that 493 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: man cut his hand and bled all in the turkey. 494 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 1: So now does it? She does it fine, Like it's 495 00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: just annoying. Like I'm not saying she should have to 496 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,360 Speaker 1: do it, but I hate that, Like I shall come 497 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:10,399 Speaker 1: in after you've cooked all this thing and I will present. 498 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 2: Them, right, I will to what I provided. 499 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,680 Speaker 1: Yes, she's just capable of doing it without bleeding. 500 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 2: That's funny, I'll say. I don't think we've ever had that. 501 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 2: It's always been slice ready to go, Like that's never 502 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: been a ceremony, like if the ceremonies us coming around, 503 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:29,240 Speaker 2: which the whole prayer sequence was quite funny too, yes, yeah, 504 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: but like the having the whole prayer around the table, 505 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:33,439 Speaker 2: like that's what happened, but everything's ready to go, like 506 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 2: there's no ceremony to cutting turkey. So I found that. 507 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 2: I also thought that was just a movie thing and 508 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: last people actually did that. 509 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: No, in a different podcast, but it dates back to 510 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: like the eighteen hundreds and man being like, look, I 511 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: can provide for my family. 512 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 2: I got things, which speaking of Yeah, part of the 513 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 2: theme again is men suck, especially barely during the holidays. 514 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 2: And I say this was again as my partner, he 515 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 2: is great, like he as in fact, I'm like, yeah, 516 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 2: my parents never expected me. My mother never expected me 517 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,200 Speaker 2: to cook. She just expected me to ring like additional 518 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 2: things and help. Like now that like he's on board, 519 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 2: She's like, okay, yeah he can bring this food. I 520 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 2: was like, wait what you never asked me? What is this? 521 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 2: I mean, in the end, it's fine. I'm a little 522 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: low key offended, but not over the top offended, but like, yeah, 523 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,679 Speaker 2: that men suck in general. The cheating that was just 524 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 2: thrown out there like it was just no big deal, 525 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 2: Like what the hell? 526 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, like several instances now we're not talking about wood, 527 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: we're talking about molds. 528 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:42,320 Speaker 2: A couple a couple of instances, yes, but yes we 529 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 2: have that. And then we have Javier who thinks he 530 00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: could just come back in. He's like, I made a mistake. 531 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 2: It was just a flip. It was not a big deal. 532 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then like him getting mad, and then the 533 00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: son Tony getting mad, which like he's a kid, I 534 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: will give him a little leeway. I'm sure it wasn't easy, 535 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: but also like he was trying to guilt his mom, 536 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: like we're ruining this holiday. 537 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 2: I mean, you just come back to apologize, And I 538 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,240 Speaker 2: wonder if they just didn't understand the theme of it, 539 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: and so it came in the end like is it 540 00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: supposed to be? Like this is this how you're supposed 541 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 2: to act? Because like the men went after Hobby, I 542 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 2: had to bring him back. All the women were like nah. 543 00:29:16,040 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 3: Bye, all the women. 544 00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 1: They literally have a scene where all the women are 545 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 1: on one side and. 546 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 2: Then but yeah, like it literally was that to the 547 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 2: point that even Tony, who we talk about, the kid 548 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:35,360 Speaker 2: who invited the dad, uh was like getting from his 549 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,080 Speaker 2: wife because his wife was mad at him for doing 550 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 2: all that. She's like, hmmm, do you do it? 551 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: No, You're not even gonna ask her or tell her 552 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: he's coming. 553 00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 2: Like the entire time, I was like, well, you know what. 554 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 2: I like that they banded together for the mother, because yeah, 555 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 2: the ladies they got it again. 556 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 1: If they had ended up together, I was gonna be 557 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: so And there was a moment where You're like, oh wait, 558 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 1: oh no, but. 559 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,560 Speaker 2: She's so passive like that Jimmy seemingly even though she's not. 560 00:30:06,120 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: It was all but I think it was just also 561 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,880 Speaker 2: that that sound like strength, the quiet strength that just 562 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 2: like hmm, I'm not even gonna play into this to 563 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 2: be dramatic about it. Let's just move on, like this 564 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: is how little it's may to me, and then we 565 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 2: have I guess the LGBTQ. I don't know if like 566 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 2: it was a sidemark or supposed to be diversity. 567 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: It was interesting because it's weird when you watch something 568 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 1: from like the two thousands and you feel that we've 569 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: come so far since, and we have, but it's also 570 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: strange that I'm like, this could very well easily still happen. 571 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: It was like a very strange thing where I felt 572 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: like they were trying to be It's like they tried 573 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 1: they did a search on all of the problems you 574 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: could have at Thanksgiving and they were like, Okay, one 575 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,480 Speaker 1: is this queer aspect, so let's put that in there, 576 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: which is true. 577 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:15,480 Speaker 2: Uh. 578 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: It just felt very It felt very dated and also relevant, 579 00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: if that makes. 580 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 2: Sense, right right? Yeah, I mean it absolutely did. Between 581 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: like the having the child and then being like that's okay, 582 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: people do that nowadays, mom. Like that that being said, 583 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: that was hilarious to me to the discovery that it 584 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: was the brother who did them, the brother cousin. I 585 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 2: don't know what he was. I thought it was the brother, 586 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 2: but then maybe I mixed that one up. I was 587 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: a donor and then he was gay, like they him 588 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 2: as well. It was like, well, damn yeah. 589 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 3: They definitely outed them very. 590 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: Quickly, like the everyone's on the edge about whether or not. 591 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: And then the fact that she's having a maybe instead 592 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,560 Speaker 2: of being happy, just being confused. I was like, that's okay, 593 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 2: but okay, the. 594 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: Baby was a surprise. I was not expecting the baby 595 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 1: to come up. 596 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 2: The gunpit was a surprise. It was quite a bit 597 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 2: of surprises. I have to wonder because it's not way 598 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,320 Speaker 2: off again though it still does I'm like, yeah, she's 599 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:21,239 Speaker 2: a UK based person doing this movie. I wonder, like 600 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 2: what I really want to sit down with it be 601 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 2: like why why Thanksgiving? Why for families? Why these things 602 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: in LA? Specifically? Like can we because it's like she's 603 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,479 Speaker 2: not completely She's not wrong as in fact, I know 604 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 2: a lot of Asian games were pretty are pretty rampant 605 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: and were pretty ramp in LA. A lot of things 606 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,719 Speaker 2: were happening, so it wasn't way off. And then as 607 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: well as the fact like they are culturally appropriating a 608 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 2: lot of things as well. I was like, okay, at 609 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 2: the beginning, saying with a kid having the conversation in 610 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 2: the mirror, trying to be quote unquote tough saying I'm 611 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: putting quote my own was around it, but like it 612 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 2: had memorials like so, I can't tell if this is 613 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: inflated in the ideas of what she thinks of la 614 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,080 Speaker 2: or if it's too on points. But there's also two 615 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 2: thousands and I was like graduating high school, going to college, 616 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 2: so I had a completely different world in Georgia. 617 00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 3: The butterfly pins, Oh my gosh, there were butterfly clips 618 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 3: in this movie. 619 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 1: I also say, like it was interesting to see the 620 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: with the son Michael and his dad Ronald, when Michael 621 00:33:40,400 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: outs his dad for cheating. Yeah, I think, like, I 622 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: think that's an interesting thing that happens a lot in 623 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,560 Speaker 1: these family gatherings too, where you're trying to as a 624 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 1: family hold it together and maybe keep these things secret, 625 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: and then they come out, and like who decides when 626 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: it comes out? And then when the mother in law 627 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,959 Speaker 1: was like, oh, you have to stay together like those 628 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: I have seen all of this. I have seen all 629 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 1: of this, and it's just interesting. I feel like a 630 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: lot of times we all have those, you know. I 631 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: think I read a joke about this the other day, 632 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: like it's not Thanksgiving unless one person refuses to come, 633 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: Like we have these right, these dramas in our family, 634 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 1: and these just just unresolved, unresolved things. And then you 635 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: come together for a holiday and you're trying to make 636 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: it look like you're a good family, good family, a 637 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:41,759 Speaker 1: perfect family, like nothing is wrong, but something is clearly wrong, right, 638 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 1: Like you're not talking about you're not being honest with 639 00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,040 Speaker 1: each other, right. 640 00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:46,400 Speaker 2: And then there was just a whole bit with that 641 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 2: Li Williams family. I was like, why is that white 642 00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 2: dude butting in about his son? He needs to shut up, 643 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: Like I was getting annoyed with that. You want to 644 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,319 Speaker 2: pick a fight at someone else's house. That was like, 645 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 2: even if he was wrong, had been like, excuse me, 646 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: this is not this is family business. You need a shed, right, 647 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:12,319 Speaker 2: I could think that's not a lie. Yeah, so there 648 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: you go. What a roller coaster A very succinct but 649 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:21,240 Speaker 2: very displaced, Like both of those things happened these movies. 650 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,279 Speaker 1: Yes, in this movie Weather, it was not what I 651 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,600 Speaker 1: was expecting. And hats off to my friend who's the 652 00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 1: last ten minutes? 653 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 2: Are they okay? 654 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:34,280 Speaker 3: Yes? 655 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 1: I did get a text for her this morning. That 656 00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: was like, I had very weird dreams and I blame you, 657 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,879 Speaker 1: and I was like, between the two things, will take that. 658 00:35:43,000 --> 00:35:46,399 Speaker 1: I think that's fair. I don't think I'm gonna watch 659 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: some of those others you suggested. 660 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 2: I'm curious. I don't have watched any of them. I 661 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 2: had aested to you. I feel like I'm gonna have 662 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,560 Speaker 2: to go back to because, uh, that so interesting. There 663 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: was a Holly Hunter movie, there's a Katie Holmes movie, 664 00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,160 Speaker 2: and one more I can't remember it. 665 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, Well, listeners, If you have any thoughts about this, 666 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:12,239 Speaker 1: are those movies any other movies? You can write to 667 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: us our emails, Stephanie and mom Stuff at iHeartMedia dot com. 668 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,840 Speaker 1: You can find us on Twitter at mom Stuff podcast, 669 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: or on Instagram and TikTok at stuff I Never Told You. 670 00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: We have a tea public store, and we have a book. 671 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: You can get it wherever you get your books. 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