1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Sexton Show Podcast. Wednesday. Everybody, It's time for the Clay 3 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Travis and Buck Sexton Show. Clay, every time I announced 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,120 Speaker 1: the day on the show, I have a moment of panic. 5 00:00:13,119 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I'm like, can I just get 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 1: to day wrong? Because I've gotten to day It's happened 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: to me. Yes, yeah, I've said it before, but today 8 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: is Wednesday, March twenty second. We are fired up, got 9 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: a lot to talk to you about, and I'm starting 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: off on the right foot. By end of the day, 11 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: right DeSantis throwing some jabs on Piers Morgan's show, not 12 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: at the at the brit of course, but at Donald Trump. 13 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: A little bit of back and forth. We'll talk about 14 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: this surprise that it would be on Piers's show, but 15 00:00:45,840 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 1: we can discuss how this all went down. Trump Indictment 16 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: watch continues. Clay has told me that he has dusted 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: off you know how all you lawyers have to have 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: that those racks of books that look like they were 19 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: printed in like the eighteenth century, so Clay, which I 20 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: guess is where the laws are printed. That's what we 21 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,639 Speaker 1: all assume, right the different statutes for tort law and whatever. 22 00:01:07,880 --> 00:01:11,240 Speaker 1: Clay dusted off the legal books to look at the 23 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: reality of the Trump indictment that would come out of 24 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: New York and spoiler alert, it is not a strong case. 25 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about it at the top of the 26 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: next hour, Buck, but I'll give people a preview. I 27 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: don't see any way, based on my reading and research 28 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,520 Speaker 1: and analysis, that this case doesn't end up getting tossed 29 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: eventually by the Supreme Court, even if it's brought. But 30 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:36,680 Speaker 1: we'll get into that in the second hour, just a 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: little bit of a preview there. Obviously, all the political 32 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: implications remain, and the what we'll just through the campaign 33 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: and we'll break all of that down for you, the 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: interest rates and inflation situation. We were fighting inflation, but 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: we might take a little pause too much pain. We'll 36 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: discuss that Russia China, the alliance that is forming right 37 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: now that some would say has already been formed. That 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 1: should be very concerning. Meanwhile, the Biden national security spokesman 39 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:12,400 Speaker 1: talking about how LGBTQ plus rights are a core part, 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,760 Speaker 1: a core part that is a quote of our foreign policy. 41 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:17,959 Speaker 1: We'll get to that later on as well. Plus more Faucian, 42 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: this Fauci PBS special. I really want to know. I 43 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: want to know if this was supposed to come out sooner. 44 00:02:24,919 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: It seems like a pretty long turnaround time for something 45 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: like this, right, wouldn't you want this out? Have to 46 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,799 Speaker 1: see and they're they're pretty amazing. So all right, here's 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: here's the big thing right now that is, at least 48 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: in political circles, getting a lot of attention, and I 49 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: think not yet candidate for office receive so much time, attention, 50 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: analysis and from his opponent's criticism as I have for 51 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: Rhonda Santist, the governor of Florida. Let's let's just start 52 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: with the fact that everyone's assuming that he's he's running, 53 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: and he went on Piers Morgan's he went on Years 54 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 1: Morgan's show. And here's let's start with peers asking Ron 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: about which Trump nickname he prefers, your favorite nickname that 56 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: Trump's given you so far as it wrong, wrong, the 57 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: sanctimonious or meat bull Rock. Well, I can't, I can't. 58 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,119 Speaker 1: I don't know how to spell to sanctimonious. I don't 59 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: really know what it means, but I you know, I 60 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:23,760 Speaker 1: kind of like it's long, it's got a lot of valve. 61 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,160 Speaker 1: That mean, so we go with that. That's fine. You know, 62 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: you can call me and you can call me whatever 63 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 1: you want. I mean, just as long as you, you know, 64 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: also call me a winner. Can I just tell you, 65 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 1: Clay that that that you know that Maggie Haberman apparently 66 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,760 Speaker 1: is tweeted out something about over the New York Times. Yeah, 67 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: like he went to Yale. He knows how to spell 68 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: de sanctimonious, like they're going to pretend with with de 69 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: santus again, they have no sense of humor in the press. 70 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: As long as they can attack. But what do you 71 00:03:49,600 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: think about this? I love the end. You can call 72 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 1: me whatever you want, as long as you call me winner. 73 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: That's a good line, right, um, the d sanctimonious, like 74 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: all those things. I think it's better if you're gonna 75 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: go on attack like this. And I think the story 76 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: here with why he's decided to talk to Pierce Morgan, 77 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: and we should talk about why he chose Piers Morgan 78 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: to suddenly fire back. And I think the one story 79 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 1: here is if you look at the polling buck, I 80 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: do think that Trump sort of taking constant punches at 81 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Ron de Santis has elevated Trump and lowered De Santis. Right, 82 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: this idea of De Santis not saying anything and just 83 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: trying to ignore it. I think they finally said, hey, 84 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 1: he's hitting you, punches, punches, punches. At some point we 85 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: need to return. Do you think that? You know, It's 86 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: like the axes were crossed and meaning that eventually, And 87 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: at first it made a lot of sense, I think, right, 88 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,559 Speaker 1: But then eventually it became, look, this guy's saying crazy stuff. 89 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: You gotta go after him. Yeah, And look, I don't 90 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 1: disabuse that idea as being a bad one. If I 91 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 1: were to Santis, I still say the best way respond 92 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: is by doing the Brian Kemp angle. Now, to be fair, 93 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: Brian Kemp wasn't running directly against Trump, and Brian Kemp, 94 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 1: of course, as a governor of Georgia who just kept 95 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: saying I don't have a problem with him, he has 96 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: a problem with me. I think that's a good angle, 97 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: a good lane for De Santis. I would also have 98 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: fun with the Trump nickname thing, because to me, if 99 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: you try to respond in kind or treat it seriously, 100 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: then you end up rolling around in the mud. I 101 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 1: think saying something like nicknames are for losers I've never 102 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: lost an election in my life. Can Donald Trump say 103 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: the same thing. You can call me a winner. I'm undefeated. 104 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: I'm a heavyweight champion. Trump just got knocked out by 105 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: Joe Biden, who can barely climb the stairs. To me, 106 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: that is a way to pivot and really go after him. 107 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: So on this show for people out there, and I 108 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: want to make it clear what we're doing, Bucket, I 109 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: kind of see ourselves as coaches in this respect, because 110 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say like, oh, I'm all in on 111 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: Trump or I'm all in on DeSantis. I look at 112 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: it in the same way I would an athletic contest. 113 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: And you know, if after the Super Bowl you come 114 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:08,839 Speaker 1: back and you say, boy, I don't know about that 115 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: decision to run on third and one. I think maybe 116 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: it would have been better to go play action there. 117 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: You analyze the decision making, and to me, DeSantis saying, 118 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: I'm an undisputed champ. I just won the biggest election 119 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: in the state of Florida. Donald Trump just got knocked 120 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: out by Joe Biden, who's the worst president that's ever lived. 121 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 1: And somehow we think that Trump is going to get 122 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,680 Speaker 1: up off the canvas and knock Biden back at I 123 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: don't think so. I think Biden will beat him again. 124 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: That to me is the way to go after Trump 125 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,640 Speaker 1: in a more sort of effective manner. Does that make 126 00:06:40,680 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: sense to you? Like calling Trump a loser really gets 127 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: to him, and he lost in twenty twenty to Joe Biden, 128 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: who didn't even leave his basement. This is going to 129 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: be We've all seen this. I think everyone listening to 130 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: this knows this is gonna be. This was going to 131 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: be relitigated, This wound, so to speak, was going to 132 00:06:58,560 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: be reopened over twenty twenty because any opponent of Trump's 133 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: is going to say, doesn't matter whether you want to 134 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: complain about the refs, doesn't matter if you say that 135 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 1: they cheated and it's unfair you lost. That is where 136 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: Rohnd de Santis is going with this. Now the Trump 137 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,840 Speaker 1: team is going to say it was super close, they 138 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: changed the rules, it was COVID, they cheated, you know. 139 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean, they have a response for it. But this 140 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: is going to become central just because the Trump brand 141 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: was the guy who came I don't mean the not 142 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: the like on the hotel's brand, but the political brand 143 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 1: was a guy who came out of nowhere, beat everybody 144 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: and pulled off the greatest political upset of our lifetime. Barnutt, right, 145 00:07:41,440 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: that and a guy who all he did was win, win, win. 146 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: That's where he was. You know, some of the pop 147 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: culture thank you and uh, you know, he came out 148 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 1: and the second time, unfortunately it didn't go his way. 149 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: So that's going to be central to it. But then 150 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 1: there's also the management of the government. It's self issue, 151 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:08,120 Speaker 1: as in, look, there's one Is there anybody who is 152 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: as good at driving libs insane and making I mean 153 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: CNN basically as an institution self immolated over Donald Trump, 154 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: I mean destroyed the institution of CNN other places as well, 155 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: because he knows how to get them and how to 156 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 1: drive them nuts more than anybody else. But how was 157 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: the actual governance? Now people are going to say there 158 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: were some very good things, but they're also going to 159 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: say there's some things that didn't get done. And DeSantis 160 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: brings up those differences in this Piers Morgan interview, I 161 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: want to let you hear it from the governor himself, 162 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,599 Speaker 1: Play twenty five. Well, I mean I think there's a 163 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,679 Speaker 1: few things. I mean, obviously, you know, the approach to 164 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: COVID it was different. I mean, you know, I would 165 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: have fired somebody like Fauci. I think that he got 166 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: way too big for his britches, and I think he 167 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: did a lot of damage. I also think, just in 168 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: terms of my approach to leadership, you know, I'd get 169 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: personnel in the government who have the agenda of the 170 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: people and share our agenda. If you bring your own 171 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: agenda in, you're gone. We're just not going to have that. 172 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: So the way we run the government, I think is 173 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: no daily drama, focus on the big picture and put 174 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: points on the board. And I think that that's something 175 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: that's very important. I mean, the governor is effectively saying 176 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 1: his approach to governance. He's not even really talking about 177 00:09:18,679 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 1: being president. It's got a funny right, I mean, even 178 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: though we know he is. Through the lens of this 179 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,079 Speaker 1: discussion is maybe it's going to be a little more 180 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: boring day to day, but things get done, Things get 181 00:09:30,840 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: done versus big promises and a lot of bluster. And 182 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 1: then the personnel this is, I will say, clay, even 183 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,679 Speaker 1: the most dead. I mean, I have people that I'm 184 00:09:41,720 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: texting with every day still who are dear friends of mine. 185 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 1: Some of whom I actually grew up with, who are 186 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: as hardcore Trumpers as you could possibly find anywhere. They're 187 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: just like, nobody else can overcome the system. Nobody else 188 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 1: is going to be able to punch through. You know, 189 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,839 Speaker 1: it's Trump or it just doesn't make any sense. And 190 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: these are some of the people that I know best 191 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: and talk to frequently. Even they say on the personnel issues, 192 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: they're like, yeah, it was really bad. There were some 193 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: really bad personnel choices. Now they'll say it's not as fault, 194 00:10:07,440 --> 00:10:09,960 Speaker 1: he wasn't a politician, whatever. But I don't know how 195 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: that plays to the entire GOP electorate. I think the 196 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:15,680 Speaker 1: twenty to thirty percent of people who are all in 197 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: on Trump, you know, all the way for them, there's 198 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:22,479 Speaker 1: an explanation. For a lot of other people. It's A'marosa 199 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: and Scaramucci, we're senior White House employees. Yeah, doesn't even 200 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: even remember Rex Tillerson as Secretary of State. I mean 201 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 1: that guy, you know, flamed out in a second. So 202 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 1: there was there was a lot of problems on the 203 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:38,199 Speaker 1: personnel side that these look people can take whatever side 204 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: of this their wall. We're just saying, these are the 205 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 1: back and forths on it and also on the payoff 206 00:10:45,000 --> 00:10:49,080 Speaker 1: to Stormy Daniels porn star issue. He dealt with this 207 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 1: one and kind of just tell it, talked about it, 208 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: but a dance around I played twenty six. He also 209 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:58,840 Speaker 1: repeated twice he didn't have any knowledge of hush money 210 00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: being paid to Poland's Does was I right to feel 211 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: there was a slightly censorious tones of that that that 212 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: kind of thing is just not anything you would ever 213 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: get involved? Well, I think it's there's a lot of 214 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 1: speculation about what the underlying conduct is that is purported 215 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: to be it, And yeah, the reality is that's just 216 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: outside my wheelhouse. I mean, that's just not something that 217 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: I can speak to. So, you know, I hope it 218 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: doesn't come to where you end up seeing this going forward. Yeah, 219 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 1: this reminds me Buck. Do you remember when al Gore 220 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: was trying to run to replace Bill Clinton and at 221 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: the Democratic National Convention that year when he got introduced 222 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: Tipper Gore came out and they had like a super 223 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 1: makeout on the stage. Do you remember that, Like, it 224 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: was kind of awkward, but as many things al Gore did, 225 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 1: because he was kind of stilted and wooden in his 226 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: persona as well, But the message that he was trying 227 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: to send with that was I'm not going to sleep 228 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: with any interns. I like my wife. Now, he ended 229 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: up getting divorced from his wife, so who knows what classic, 230 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: but at least in two thousand he had been married 231 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 1: to Tipper Gore for you know, a couple of twenty 232 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: five years, whatever it was, and when they came out 233 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,760 Speaker 1: on stage, it was like, Hey, I'm not going to 234 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:19,360 Speaker 1: get involved like this, And frankly, George W. Bush I 235 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: think leaned into this in a big way because a 236 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: lot of times you're looking for someone different, right, and 237 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 1: what I mean by that is George W. Bush. I 238 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 1: think one of the reasons he won was people didn't 239 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: necessarily dislike all of the decisions that Bill Clinton made 240 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,959 Speaker 1: as a president. He actually ran fairly centrist, but they 241 00:12:36,960 --> 00:12:39,560 Speaker 1: were just kind of tired of all the scandals, right, 242 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: the tawderiness of the Clinton era, the fact that you 243 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 1: could have a intern sex scandal in the Oval office, 244 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: and people pivoted and went Bush. And I think when 245 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:53,640 Speaker 1: they went to Trump from Obama, there was a big 246 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,960 Speaker 1: pivot there. And I wonder into Santis's head when he's 247 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: using the porn star phrase. Look, he's I don't know 248 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: anything about Ron De Santa's his personal life, but I 249 00:13:03,320 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: can say he seems to have a good marriage, and 250 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 1: he certainly has three young kids. It is very different 251 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 1: than Trump, who is on his third wife and certainly 252 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: has had all sorts of personal peccadillos that have been 253 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 1: in the public. So this feels a little bit like 254 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: to me, the pivot from George Bush after Clinton, the 255 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: pivot even Al Gore tried to follow of De Santa saying, Hey, 256 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,760 Speaker 1: I'm not an expert in sex with porn stars, but 257 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: I can figure out how to get CRT out of 258 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: your schools, right. That to me feels like that the 259 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: argument that he's trying to make. But I don't think 260 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 1: he gets there right. And I when we come back Buck, 261 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: I think the question of why Piers Morgan, like, why 262 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: is he the guy that this is the avenue through 263 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: which these attacks come a rapidly anti Second Amendment Covidian, 264 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: Fauciite worshiping, left of center guy. Yes, he believes in 265 00:13:56,080 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: free speech. That's nice. There's a lot of other things, 266 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 1: as peers working about climate change, as people working about 267 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 1: the Second Amendments see what he has to say, Clay, 268 00:14:05,679 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 1: can we can we also throw lines open if anyone has, 269 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,120 Speaker 1: if anyone out there we want look, I think there's 270 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: a lot of people. I mentioned this, Clay, when you're 271 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: out there are a lot of people who are looking 272 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: to see where this fight goes right now in the 273 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 1: GOP and it's a fight that we all knew was coming, 274 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 1: and it's when we have to have. So for the 275 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: people who are like, oh, I want to see how 276 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: to play out, fine, But if you're totally all in 277 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: already on one side or the other and have a 278 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 1: really strong opinion on some of these attacks pro Trump, 279 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: anti Trump, pro de Santists, anti Descantists, whatever it may be, 280 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: we want this to be the forum, the town square, 281 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: the you know, the beer hall, the Masonic lodge or 282 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: you know whatever, you know what I mean where people 283 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: can voice those things that we can all talk about it, 284 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: no doubt, and we'll take some of your calls throughout 285 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: this hour, and also we'll talk about why Piers Morgan 286 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,240 Speaker 1: continue to break down to Santists finally returning fire on Trump. 287 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: In the meantime, asset managers names you know they're using 288 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: your retire ronment funds to further their ESG agenda. 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That's consumers research dot 306 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: org paid for by consumers Research one truth revealed after 307 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: another play, Travis said, Buck Sexton, welcome back in. We're 308 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: gonna take some of your calls moving through the hour. 309 00:16:13,320 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 1: But Buck, we talked about this is in the open. 310 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: Why Piers Morgan now on the one hand, and this 311 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: is we're talking about Decantis returning fire on Trump in 312 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: an interview was published a New York Post. There is 313 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: a strong Piers Morgan connection through the Rupert Murdoch universe. Right, 314 00:16:31,560 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: Piers is on a rights at News Corp with with 315 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: New York Post. He's on Fox News regularly. I believe 316 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 1: there's a new channel that has been launched in Britain 317 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: that is Rupert Murdoch owned that has a Piers Morgan 318 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: show on. Certainly, Piers Morgan has had a big platform 319 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: in media historically. But also I wonder whether they picked it. 320 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: Do you remember the angry interview that Trump gave to 321 00:16:56,080 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: Piers Morgan that they like cut and it didn't seem 322 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: like it was really fair to Trump the way that 323 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: they cut it to make it look like he stormed 324 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: out of the interview. I wonder if this was the 325 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: thumb in the eye also at Trump, just based on 326 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: picking Piers Morgan could be does that make sense to you? Like? 327 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: I just find it intriguing, Like, why is Piers Morgan 328 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: the choice to deliver the first attack against Trump? My 329 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: first choice? My first instinct is they just got this one. 330 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: They kind of flew this one over and they threw 331 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: it over the wall and it worked. I don't know it, 332 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 1: because honestly, it just makes no sense to me. I 333 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: can't even so I'll believe whatever theory knocks. I'm like, 334 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: that's that's where you go for the first round. I mean, 335 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, what about all the Fox Primetime here, some 336 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,639 Speaker 1: of the other big shows on Premiere. I don't know. 337 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: It just struck me as a strange place to make 338 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: the firm. Get a load of this sale price though. 339 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 1: When you use our names as the promo code, Clay 340 00:17:49,960 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: and Buck, you'll get all season slippers for just twenty 341 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: five dollars regularly one hundred and forty nine ninety eight. 342 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: That's over one hundred and twenty dollars in savings. Your 343 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: orders are going to be limited to ten pairs. 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Go 353 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 1: promo code Clay and Buck or call eight hundred seven 354 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: nine two three two six nine lines are lit. I 355 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: had a feeling when you have the beginning of the match, 356 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 1: the big, the big fight that we've all seen coming 357 00:18:41,320 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: and polish the super Bowl. Man, it's because this also 358 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 1: feels like more than a lot of other primaries. It'll 359 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: it'll determine, it feels like it, you know, you know, 360 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: when I'm gonna do the sports thing, there's a semi 361 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,560 Speaker 1: final that almost feels bigger than the final because of 362 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: the combatants involved. For a lot of people think this 363 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,000 Speaker 1: is gonna feel a little bit like that, at least 364 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,400 Speaker 1: for now. Obviously, a general election there's even more higher 365 00:19:05,440 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: stakes and even more implications of it. Lines lit up 366 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: all across the place, people fired up on this topic. 367 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: Let's get to some of you if you want to 368 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: call in on how you think this is playing out 369 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: so far, Trump v. De Santists. But we want people 370 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 1: who feel that because Clay and I said, we're sitting here, 371 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: we're watching the primary playout. We want to see and 372 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: talk about what's being said and to assess and to 373 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 1: try to bring all of you the best information, the 374 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 1: latest salvos, the latest back and forth between them. Some 375 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 1: of you are super in on one side already. Some 376 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:34,800 Speaker 1: of you are very much do you know, down on 377 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: the other side and put your names down on the 378 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: other side. So call us, let us know, and we 379 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 1: want to air out all these opinions of thoughts. It's 380 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be a long what is it? 381 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: But we've got about a twelve month long primary here right. 382 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:48,959 Speaker 1: If it's something something along those lines, we will we 383 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 1: will get into I was just looking, Buck, I was 384 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 1: reading this morning. The primary basically will be decided around 385 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 1: this time next year, so we are about a year 386 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: out almost every if you look. I think I was 387 00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,000 Speaker 1: reading Carl Rove's analysis of when the primary dates are 388 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: effectively this date ish by next year there will be 389 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: a nominee, right, and in the meantime it's a battle 390 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,880 Speaker 1: of epic proportions. Yeah, I was gonna say, I mean 391 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 1: this is gonna it's by the way, it's a marathon, 392 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 1: not a sprint, everybody. So it's gonna take a while 393 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: to figure out where this is all going. Also, if 394 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: you want to send us an email, clan buck dot com, 395 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 1: please become a VIP and you can send us emails 396 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: goes directly to the staff. We'll read some of those 397 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: on air too. All right, we have Jordan in Thomasville, 398 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: North Carolina. What's going on? Jordan? What's up? Guys? Clay, 399 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: glad to have you back. Buck did an amazing job, 400 00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: are you gone? Hey? Look great. Good thing about having 401 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: two people who can host the show solo is for 402 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: all of you out there. You basically get one of 403 00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: us every day all year long, and that's rare, I 404 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: think anywhere plenty of Clay and Buck to go around. Here. 405 00:20:58,720 --> 00:21:01,400 Speaker 1: You go down, Thanks, Jorgan, So what's on your mind? 406 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: Talk to us? Man? The attacks owned the Santists from 407 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,840 Speaker 1: Trump don't even make sense, Like I can't wait until 408 00:21:08,840 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: they get on the stage and the Santists can look 409 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:13,479 Speaker 1: at him and be like, really, you think I'm not 410 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: doing a good job in Florida, that's funny because you 411 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: live here, or you want to try and label me 412 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: as a groomer. Really, that's funny because I'm definitely the 413 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:24,960 Speaker 1: one that date people thirty to forty years younger than me. Like, 414 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: it just doesn't even make any sense, no, can I 415 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: just also point out about the first thing, not only 416 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: does Trump Trump's you know adults, children all live in 417 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:37,960 Speaker 1: Florida too. Yes, they've all moved to Florida. So it's interesting, 418 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: isn't it. Yeah, And I would just say, like Trump 419 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: attacking De Santists for sexual peccadillos, it's crazy to me. Look, 420 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: I don't care if you told me that the next president, 421 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: and some of you may be upset by this, but 422 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: if you told me the next president of the United 423 00:21:55,280 --> 00:22:00,639 Speaker 1: States had an absolute harem of side chicks, but he 424 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: was going to be an incredible president of the United States, 425 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: I would sign up for that in a heartbeat. If 426 00:22:05,960 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: you told me that if Joe Biden had ten mistresses 427 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,640 Speaker 1: he would be competent as a president, I would help 428 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,600 Speaker 1: pay the mistress's salaries. All right. I just don't care 429 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: that much personally about the personal peccadillos of the president. 430 00:22:18,880 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: I want somebody who can do the job well. But 431 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: for Trump, who's on his third wife and has certainly 432 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:29,879 Speaker 1: had a long litany of women in his life, to 433 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: be like, oh, DeSantis is a groomer, that seems I 434 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: can't even imagine that landing in any kind of effective way, right, 435 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 1: I mean, it's just such a strange. Now, if DeSantis 436 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: wanted to go after Trump, I would, I would say 437 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: to De Santis in the same way. I don't really 438 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 1: care about the personal politics of your private life, but 439 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: it would be seemed to be way more effective to 440 00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: Santist to Trump than Trump to De Santist. That makes 441 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: sense to you, Buck, Like, it's just a weird angle 442 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 1: to me for Trump to taste it's strange. Yeah, And 443 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: I think also you'll have to wall to watch and see. 444 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 1: There are attacks on politicians that you disagree with, and 445 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: then there are the ones where you kind of smirk 446 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:09,880 Speaker 1: because it's just an insult to your intelligence. Right, Yeah, 447 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: there's there's I don't think it's true that you that 448 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: the economy was good or bad under so and so 449 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,480 Speaker 1: you can always argue that position. But there is a 450 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: level at which it's really you're you're gonna say that, 451 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, it would be like saying, uh, anyway, It'd 452 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 1: be like saying Clay Travis doesn't love SEC football enough, 453 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: Like there are some limits to what somebody Because as 454 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: a great analogy, if if I were running for political 455 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: office and somebody was like, you know what, Clay Clay 456 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: Travis hates hates Southern football, be like, that's the best 457 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 1: possible attack you could have on me, because everybody would 458 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: just kind of raise their eyebrows with the world, Yeah, exactly, 459 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: it's insulting. In strange Nancy in spring Hill, Florida. We 460 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,720 Speaker 1: got team Trump here, Nancy, what's going on? Hi? I 461 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: live in Florida. I voted for Runda Santis. I love 462 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: Ruanda Santis. I want them to stay our governor. Trump 463 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: as Trump. We all know that, y'all know what he says. 464 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: But I look at what he did, and I think 465 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: he is the only one who can lead this country 466 00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: out of the messa's in because he can get right 467 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,440 Speaker 1: down in the mud with the dirty Democrats. I don't 468 00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: think Ron is up to it yet. He will be 469 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: maybe in another eight years. I think it's a great look. 470 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: That to me, the best angle for Trump is, you 471 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 1: know what I'll do. They have come at me with 472 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: everything they have and I'm still here and Trump to me, 473 00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: and he's not going to do it. But Trump could say, hey, 474 00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: let me for four years. DeSantis is a young guy, 475 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: you can get him for eight. I'd be ecstatic if 476 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 1: we had twelve straight years of Republican presidents. But I'm 477 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,880 Speaker 1: the best guy for the job right now. I think 478 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,879 Speaker 1: one way that Trump could maneuver this well would be 479 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: to say that, obviously I'm the choice this time around, 480 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: but I will pass the baton to Ron for eight 481 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: after my four Yeah, you know, and I will teach him. 482 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, groom him. That's not the right yea. 483 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: I will teach him to be my successor, and I 484 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: will I will make sure that he's ready to go. 485 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 1: That to me, that's where people start to you know, 486 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: people who are open to their mind moving one way 487 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: or the other. I think that's the kind of pitch 488 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,400 Speaker 1: that could land with them. Russ and Frankfurt, Kentucky. Russ, 489 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: what do you got for us? Yeah, it's a long 490 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: time caller, first time listener. I want to tell you something. 491 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: I think humor ought to be used. Anytime there's a 492 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: personal attack, de Sano shouldn't even don't even address it. 493 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: He could say, like the old Saturday Night Live skit, 494 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, President Trump, stir the Trumper, the Trump and 495 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:43,600 Speaker 1: later I mean just bypassing her the personal attacks, but 496 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: only debate the issues. It's it's an interesting point, and 497 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,479 Speaker 1: thanks for the call, which I believe he said, uh, 498 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: you know, a long time caller, first time listener. I 499 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,720 Speaker 1: don't know if that was a backwards intentional joke that 500 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,200 Speaker 1: he was making, or it's an interesting phrase, or if 501 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 1: that was unintentional, but that was also fun to me. 502 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: Where Trump has always excelled is he's far funnier than 503 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: anybody in the media gives him credit for him. Yes, 504 00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: he has really got the ability to deliver something that 505 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: is a joke that his followers all understand as a joke, 506 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 1: and all the stenographers at the New York Times right 507 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: down as if it's the literal truth, and they don't 508 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:32,280 Speaker 1: really seem to understand the language that he's speaking satire, humor, ridicule. 509 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: He's very skilled at the way he deploys language in 510 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: that way, and his audience understands it. A lot of 511 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,199 Speaker 1: the people who cover him do not. I don't know 512 00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,479 Speaker 1: if DeSantis has that same sort of humorous skill. Not 513 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: only does Trump have tremendous personal charisma. So Clay spent 514 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: a lot of time talking to him, hanging out with him. 515 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,120 Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time talking to him, hanging 516 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: out with him. You know, formal settings. In formal settings, 517 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: his charisma scales in person and as well, meaning you 518 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: know you're sitting there with Trump and you feel really 519 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: connected to him. But also in a live event, whether 520 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:11,760 Speaker 1: it's a hundred people or twenty thousand people, there is this, 521 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,760 Speaker 1: there is this like it's almost a It's a great point, buck. 522 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,359 Speaker 1: Some people can do small arenas, some people can do stadiums. 523 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: Some people can only do a comedy club stage right, 524 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: And you have to be able to scale for that audience, right, 525 00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:29,080 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift right now with the A Lover Hater has 526 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: got the hottest concert and it's all stadium show, right, 527 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: And you know, it's such a good point. Trump scales. 528 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 1: He does well in those small settings. You've been in 529 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: those rooms where there's fifteen or twenty people. He can 530 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: connect and then he can connect in a fifteen or 531 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,360 Speaker 1: twenty thousand seed arena. And the truth is, you know, 532 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: to be just very objective and steely eyed about this. 533 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 1: You know, DeSantis has shown the great results at the 534 00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: state level, obviously has this very you know, impeccable academic 535 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: and professional pedigree. Guy. Hasn't been doing twenty thousand person stadiums. Now, 536 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: maybe he doesn't have to, and maybe he'll be great 537 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,639 Speaker 1: at it, but that's a part of this primary you 538 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:14,359 Speaker 1: just haven't seen yet. No one can tell me is 539 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: decantists great or not great at doing a twenty thousand 540 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 1: person event, let's say, just just by way putting south, 541 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 1: because we haven't done it yet, kind of like long 542 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: term trials on some of the vaccines, Like you can't 543 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: tell me it's great because you haven't done it yet. Right. 544 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: So that's where I think this Trump to me, Buck 545 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: connects as a normal person so much better than anybody 546 00:28:36,040 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 1: could have anticipated. And I think when Trump is at 547 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: his best, when he was in East Palestine, Ohio and 548 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: he went into McDonald's and met everybody at the McDonald's, 549 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: like he kills it on that scene, I think down 550 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: in a South Carolina if I'm not mistaken. He went 551 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: to an ice cream shop, and he went into ice 552 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 1: cream shop and people lost their minds. That's where I 553 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: think Trump does his best. 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The Clay and Buck podcast d dives 585 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: with cool content, surprise guests. Get it all on the 586 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: iheartapp or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back in 587 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are taking your calls 588 00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: on the Republican super Bowl. Maybe there's gonna be an 589 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 1: up start that comes out of nowhere. I don't think 590 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: there is, but maybe there will be. Otherwise, it is Trump, 591 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: it is de Santis, and de Santis has return fire 592 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: in an interview with Pierce Morgan yesterday. At least it 593 00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: went public yesterday. I think it was a Monday afternoon 594 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 1: evening interview. And what is the reaction? Tons of you 595 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 1: out there want to jump in and react, and we'll 596 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,880 Speaker 1: go first, I teased her before we went to break 597 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: Colleen and Saint Petersburg. What do you think? How would 598 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: you assess the early round battle here between Trump and DeSantis? Well, 599 00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: initially I was really happy that De Santis was taking 600 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 1: the high road, but I guess initially he's just going 601 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: to have to get into it with Trump. The comment 602 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: I wanted to make was that Trump always used to 603 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: say the Democrats, you know, the one thing they know 604 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: how to do is just to stick together. They protect 605 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: their own And I mean right out of the shoot, 606 00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: Trump was throwing to Santas under the bus before we 607 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: even had our election here in Florida. I mean, that 608 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 1: really soured me on Trump. I've been a huge Trump fan. 609 00:31:56,440 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: A lot of my friends Republican voters, they are with 610 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: me that Trump has just gone too far. I mean, 611 00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: I understand it's the competition here, um, but I just 612 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: don't think Trump's electable and that he's just been so 613 00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: demonized by the media and then you know, throwing our 614 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:18,440 Speaker 1: best Republican Canada under the bus. I don't know, it 615 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: doesn't sit well with it. I think it's I think 616 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: it's also thank you by the way, we really appreciate 617 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 1: the call in the analysis. I clear, you know, I 618 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,480 Speaker 1: think that there is there is a cult of anti 619 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: Trumpism that some people may be forget Now, if you're 620 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: all in on Trump, you say, well, that's why we 621 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: need someone like Trump, right, So this it becomes, it 622 00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: becomes a decision tree with many different, many different branches here. 623 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,520 Speaker 1: But there's a cult of anti trump Ism that if 624 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: he is the nominee, will go right back into overdrive. 625 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: I mean you will see CNN will be the anti 626 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: Trump network, The New York Times, you know, democracy dies 627 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: in darkness, the Washington Post, that all just comes right back. 628 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: And now it is to come right back because they 629 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 1: hate Trump in a way that I think is both 630 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: deeply irrational and emotionally unstable. But it was a huge 631 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: business success for them. Yeah. Remember the places that have 632 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,680 Speaker 1: CNN's ratings have cratered because Joe Biden became president. And 633 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: why do they even exist? Right, they're not an honest 634 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 1: news organization, So why would you watch them now Joe 635 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 1: Biden's president. If you're a Democrat, that's what you were 636 00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: getting before. But that whole apparatus comes right back into play, 637 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 1: and it's it's it's formidable because it's really driven by 638 00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,560 Speaker 1: what I'm really trying to say here is there's so 639 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: many Libs for whom Donald Trump all the propaganda has 640 00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: seeped in, and they hate him. I mean, they would 641 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 1: rather have Joseph Stalin resurrected and as president than Donald Trump. 642 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: They're out of their minds. Yeah. Now, to be fair, 643 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: I think that same apparatus if De Santis was the nominee, 644 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 1: would immediately try to argue to Santis is even worse 645 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: than Trump, right, true, But I don't think it has 646 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: the same residence. I don't think as many people. Right. 647 00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,600 Speaker 1: I think that's the big question that you're asking Buck, 648 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:09,440 Speaker 1: which is does Trump motivate more Republicans to vote or 649 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,919 Speaker 1: more Democrats to vote? Because that's a that's a really 650 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:16,120 Speaker 1: interesting question, right, Joe Biden doesn't motivate anybody, Right, people 651 00:34:16,160 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: didn't vote for Joe Biden, they voted against Trump. How 652 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: many people out there would show up to vote against 653 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 1: Ron De Santis or Nicky Haley or Tim Scott versus 654 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 1: how many people would show up to vote for those guys, 655 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Because I don't think there's any doubt that Trump turned 656 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: out an amazing amount of people who otherwise would sit 657 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: out the election. What I've never really seen a great 658 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:43,800 Speaker 1: analysis of buck is how many people does Trump motivate 659 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 1: in a positive way versus how many people does Trump 660 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,080 Speaker 1: motivate in a negative way. I'm just gonna you know, 661 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: the opponents of Trump in this primary would say, look 662 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: at the results in twenty twenty and look at the 663 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,640 Speaker 1: results in twenty twenty two. That is going to be 664 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,520 Speaker 1: a central part of this fight. As we said, it 665 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,160 Speaker 1: is the next year, everybody, so we're not trying to 666 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 1: settle it today. But this is not just the future 667 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 1: of the Republican Party. This is the future of the 668 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,160 Speaker 1: country we're talking about. This stuff really is going to 669 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,960 Speaker 1: massively matter and how this all shakes out. And I 670 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 1: do think that, interestingly enough, you're going to see in 671 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: the primary a relitigation of twenty twenty and twenty twenty two, 672 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: and probably and then if Trump wins, it'll be the 673 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: general as well, because Joe Biden will get him on 674 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: stage and he would say who won in twenty twenty 675 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 1: and you know, just you can just see it all 676 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: right now. So there's a lot that comes into play. 677 00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 1: To me, the most effective attack on Trump is you 678 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: lost to Joe Bien, who is the most incompetent and 679 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: basically unable to even walk stiff that the Democrats have 680 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:53,840 Speaker 1: ever put forward three time presidential primary loser before. A 681 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,800 Speaker 1: joke before that is that. Now Trump's response is, I 682 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: didn't actually lose, the lation was rigged. There's all these 683 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 1: different lies, But I think that plays into the worst 684 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: of Trump, right because most people are looking for who's 685 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: gonna win in twenty four And as we finished this hour, 686 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna defend Trump in a big way when we 687 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,720 Speaker 1: come back at the top of the next hour, because 688 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: whether you're a Trump person or the Santis person, these 689 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,840 Speaker 1: potential charges that Alvin Bragg in New York City is 690 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:24,480 Speaker 1: going to potentially bring. I put my legal hat on, 691 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,160 Speaker 1: I dove into them. I'm gonna tell you exactly what 692 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: I think is going to happen. So it's buck next