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Speaker 1: The name Wally Triplett may trigger your your memories and

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Speaker 1: It's quite Franklin. Coach Franklin LeVar Arrington three two one.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, coach. It's a big week. It's historical week.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't really and I didn't I take pride and

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Speaker 1: does that create any significant value to how you're you're

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Speaker 2: I mean, it wasn't. I don't It wasn't SMU's fault.

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Speaker 1: But how cool is that?

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Speaker 1: You make history by being in the playoff. But there's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think most importantly it's an opportunity to tell

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Speaker 1: They're there, They're stick city in the rankings, they're eleventh.

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Speaker 3: You two guys are gonna, you know, go on to

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Speaker 4: It's a motive, it's a motivator.

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Speaker 1: The weather before I let you go, are y'all practicing

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Speaker 4: The same reasons why you're living in California right now.

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Speaker 1: You know, I didn't know that I would. I practiced

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Speaker 2: Y'all been outside, Yeah, So what we do.

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Speaker 3: You're sweating and then and then you're standing around and

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Speaker 4: But it actually the temperature spiked back. It warmed up,

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Speaker 3: But it warmed up and we were able to have

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Speaker 3: This this head was I don't have any insulation up there.

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Speaker 1: But uh, you're gonna have something on that head this weekend.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's a must. I need you focus.

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Speaker 1: I don't need you sitting there like is my head?

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Speaker 2: Is my coat? Coaches? My head still there? All right?

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Speaker 4: Okay, now when are you coming into the town.

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Speaker 1: I get in Thursday night, I get in Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: I will be there.

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Speaker 2: I will.

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Speaker 1: I was going to come see y'all like I always do.

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Speaker 1: After last game it was too cold. I went straight.

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey, listening to this too. Stop talking about how

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Speaker 2: Hold on now, hold on what I mean?

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Speaker 1: You said?

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Speaker 2: There's two things that's been said.

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Speaker 1: One, all right, the hall of Valhalla where the braves

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Speaker 1: The two is it's a right of passage, like you

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Speaker 1: I could talk about being cold now because I'm old. Hey,

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Speaker 2: I tell I'm not ashamed.

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Speaker 1: At times, I fight like a gout like symptom in

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Speaker 1: because it feels like cold activates that bad arthritis. You know,

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Speaker 1: we were just talking about the Grandmams and the moth

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Speaker 3: You you in that category when you start talking about

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Speaker 3: I got the gout I got, I got the gout,

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Speaker 3: I got the sugar.

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Speaker 4: I gotta go, man, I gotta go, I gotta go.

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Speaker 2: Hey, appreciate you, coach. Good luck to you.

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Speaker 4: Good luck to you Anyboddy?

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, that was coach Franklin. You guys

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Speaker 1: got an opportunity to hear yourself. History has been made,

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Speaker 1: is going to be made. They were named to the playoff,

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Speaker 1: the twelve team playoff.

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Speaker 2: For a home game.

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Speaker 1: Now question becomes, will we do our part?

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Speaker 2: Will we show up?

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Speaker 1: Will this be the energy and the atmosphere that every

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Speaker 1: I'm excited. I'm pumped up. I hope you guys are

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Speaker 1: pumped up. This was quite Franklin. That was coach James Franklin.

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Speaker 1: I'm LeVar Harrington. Good luck nickny Lyons. I'm looking forward

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