1 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: This is One Bill's Live, presented by Callida Health. 2 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: All right, here we are One Bill's Live abbreviated version 3 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,480 Speaker 2: Day two with the NHL Draft on tap tonight, Marty 4 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: and Duffer doing a little putting, a little extra work in. 5 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 2: So we we've got an hour to spend with you 6 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:53,199 Speaker 2: here this afternoon. Chris Brown, Maddy clad with you again today. 7 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 2: And the smoke is back, Maddy. The smoke is back 8 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 2: from the forest fires up in Canada. 9 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: It started to come back yesterday afternoon. I started to 10 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 3: see it on my drive home and I was like, 11 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:09,400 Speaker 3: is it just a little hazy today? What's going on here? 12 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,759 Speaker 3: And then I wake up this morning and I went 13 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,200 Speaker 3: outside and I was like, oh, it smells like smoke. 14 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's noticeable. I have a terrible sense of smell. 15 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: My wife has a fantastic sense of smell, thankfully, so 16 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: someone in our house home track. 17 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:25,119 Speaker 1: But she came, she came. 18 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:27,400 Speaker 2: She was out the door early this morning and then 19 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: came back and she's like, Yep, the smoke is back. 20 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 2: And I was like, dang, I was gonna go for 21 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 2: a run this morning. 22 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:34,720 Speaker 1: Yeah. 23 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 2: So I went outside and I don't know, maybe it 24 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 2: was just where we were like you look up in 25 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:45,320 Speaker 2: the sky and you can see like that haze, but 26 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: like down at ground level, it didn't seem as bad. 27 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, I might just be delusional. And I 28 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: was like, you know what, I really I just went 29 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 2: for a run anyway, and I was I was okay, 30 00:01:56,680 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 2: like I didn't have any issues breathing. I mean, I 31 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 2: wasn't exactly tearing it up, but I was like, am 32 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 2: I gonna pay for that? 33 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:07,280 Speaker 1: But I was like, I really wanted to go for 34 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: a run. 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 4: See. 36 00:02:08,400 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 2: But then I saw on the highway coming into work, 37 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 2: they've got it up on the road signs, you know, 38 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: the digital road signs. It says, you know, smoke is 39 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 2: reducing air quality, consider wearing a mask, Like, especially if 40 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,360 Speaker 2: you're somebody you know with respiratory issues or asthma or something, 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 2: you should absolutely wear a mask. And I saw on 42 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 2: the local news they said basically, anything over one fifty 43 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 2: is considered poor air quality, somewhat of a threat, especially 44 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: to people with respiratory issues. And we were at one 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: seventy eight yesterday, but back in Michigan it was over 46 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: three hundreds the count batch. 47 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: Is it bad there? 48 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can see it. I've seen some shots of 49 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:57,440 Speaker 3: like the city skyline in Chicago, and it was like 50 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: this was yesterday, this is today, and you can't really 51 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 3: see the buildings in definition. 52 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:05,520 Speaker 4: I have a softball game later tonight. 53 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 2: I'm in a you could play softball meague on especially 54 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: me We. 55 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 3: Played a couple weeks ago when it was smokey too, 56 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 3: and it seemed fine. 57 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 4: Probably not the best air quality to play in. 58 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 3: It was one of those days where all the high 59 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 3: schools were canceling games and it was like. 60 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,079 Speaker 4: Your slow pitch softball league is still off for tonight. 61 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I guess if you're running out of triple 62 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 2: with a mask on, it might be hard to breathe. 63 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 2: But other than that, I would think if you felt 64 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 2: like you had to wear one because it got bad, 65 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: you could do that. 66 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: Knowing you are a native of Chicago. 67 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 2: And I wanted to tell you this story that well, 68 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 2: it's more of a joke than anything else. But apparently 69 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: a reporter approached Michael Jordan and they asked him, and 70 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 2: this is how the exchange went. Reporter asks, Hey, Mike, 71 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 2: do you think your nineties Bulls would beat Lebron's Lakers? 72 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 2: Responds yeah, by two or three points, and so the 73 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: reporter responds, Oh, really, why such a close game? Yeah, 74 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 2: Jordan responds, well, heck, just about all of us are 75 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: sixty years old. 76 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 1: I liked him. I thought that was clever. 77 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: That's a sixty year old collection of players. We can 78 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: still beat Lebron's Lakers by two or three. That is 79 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: so Jordan. It's not even funny, But I laughed when 80 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 2: I saw that. One of my one of my high 81 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 2: school buddies, sent that to me, which was funny because 82 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,919 Speaker 2: in the nineties, as Knicks fans, we all hated Jordan, 83 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: as you can imagine, so uh never beat that guy. 84 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 2: Not that anybody else did either, but yes, uh so 85 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: I thought you would appreciate that as a Chicago fan. 86 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 2: We've got news in the NFL today, chiefly among the 87 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 2: NFL Players Association. They have elected a new executive director. 88 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:03,000 Speaker 2: We mentioned this yesterday in our Around the NFL segment, 89 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 2: which is brought to you by Kalida Health, the official 90 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and we know Demores Smith, 91 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: the current executive director. His term is up in twenty 92 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:17,360 Speaker 2: twenty four. So they do these elections a year in advance, 93 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: I'm guessing to make for a smooth transition. Get that 94 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 2: guy up to speed while the guy that's serving in 95 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 2: the position is still there. That all makes sense to me. 96 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 2: But they've elected Lloyd Howell, and if his name is 97 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,159 Speaker 2: not familiar to you, do not worry, because I don't 98 00:05:34,160 --> 00:05:35,760 Speaker 2: think it's familiar to any of us either. 99 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 1: And I had to look him up. 100 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 4: I know, I was trying to look much this morning. 101 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 2: Even the national reporters didn't have really anything to go on. 102 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 2: But chief financial officer and executive vice president and treasurer 103 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: of Booz Allen Hamilton Holding Company to professional services company, 104 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 2: I guess. And he just retired there on October first, 105 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 2: talk about a retirement plan. You walk in to the 106 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:05,119 Speaker 2: executive directorship of the NFL Players Association. 107 00:06:05,160 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all done here. Let's uh, let's head to 108 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 3: the end. Probably got a race, yeah really. 109 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: I mean, and fortunately for him, he's got time to 110 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:20,239 Speaker 2: coast because it's a little while before the next CBA coach. 111 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 4: His best life right now. 112 00:06:22,200 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: So I mean, on the field, is it a big deal. No, 113 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 2: But for the union leadership, it's a gigantic deal. So 114 00:06:29,240 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 2: if you ask the players, this is big news. And 115 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 2: we were talking about it yesterday how much it was 116 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: kept under wraps was fascinating. But maybe it's because of 117 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 2: who the guy was. Nobody, nobody's ever heard of this. 118 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 4: It wasn't we're talking though. 119 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 3: I was like, maybe I'm not making fun of him. 120 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: I'm sure he's a great guy and he's going to 121 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,680 Speaker 3: do a good job, but football, certainly Football world not 122 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 3: a big name. He got his NBA from Harvard Business 123 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: School and graduated from UPenn. 124 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:55,919 Speaker 4: That's the only other. 125 00:06:56,480 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: All ivy league. Okay, I guess he's qualified. Yeah. 126 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 2: The NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell issued a statement after Howell's 127 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 2: election today was announced. He said the following want to 128 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 2: congratuate Lloyd Howell on his election as executive director of 129 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: the NFLPA, and to thank to Morris Smith for his 130 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:18,119 Speaker 2: continued partnership and unstinting work on behalf of NFL players 131 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,800 Speaker 2: who look forward to working with Lloyd and his team 132 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 2: to continue growing the game and making it better, say for, 133 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: more accessible and attractive to fans around the world. So 134 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 2: while that was probably viewed as a positive on the 135 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: part of the NFLPA, yeah exactly. 136 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for the sound effects. 137 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 2: The NFL gambling suspensions are coming ESPN's Adam Schefter is 138 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: reporting that a handful of NFL players, including Colt's cornerback 139 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 2: Isaiah Rodgers, who we know admitted to gambling already, they're 140 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: expected to receive season long suspensions this week for allegedly gambling. 141 00:07:56,760 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 2: To this point, six players have served are serving suspensions 142 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 2: for gambling violations, most recently Jamison Williams and Stanley berry 143 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 2: Hill from the Lions, who are going to serve six 144 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: games suspensions for placing non NFL. 145 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 1: Bets while at work. 146 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,480 Speaker 2: We remember Calvin Ridley had to serve a one year 147 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 2: suspension for betting on NFL games, and Isaiah Rodgers said 148 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 2: he bet on NFL games, So he's getting at least 149 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 2: a year. 150 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: And it's interesting. 151 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: We don't have names of other players, Maddie, but they're 152 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: saying a handful of other players, How like, are we six, eight, ten, twelve? 153 00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: Handfuls? Five? I guess like at least. 154 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:42,960 Speaker 3: There's a handful Compared to the amount of players that 155 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,320 Speaker 3: are in the NFL, that number is big. Then, yeah, 156 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: I know everybody's doing the I hope it's not my 157 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 3: I hope it's not on my team. 158 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: I hope it's not my team. 159 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 4: I hope it's not. 160 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 2: My team, because that's the first thing I was thinking, Well, please, 161 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 2: no Bills players, please. 162 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 4: I know. 163 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: And hopefully that that's the case. 164 00:09:02,880 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 2: But yet we've seen players around the league like they're 165 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 2: not plugged in on what they can and cannot do. Yeah, 166 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 2: and fortunately the NFL has responded. I know they've put 167 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 2: the rookies through the paces on the dues and don'ts 168 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 2: of the NFL gambling policy, so there's no way they 169 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 2: can be uninformed while they're away from football over this 170 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 2: five six week period before training camp. 171 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: So hopefully now. 172 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 4: Guys make enough money, don't do it. It's okay. 173 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, look. 174 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 4: You've got an NFL salary. 175 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. I'd be the first to understand the entertainment value. 176 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: I get it. I think it's just rooted in the 177 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,880 Speaker 1: fact that now you know, you can do it in 178 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: a couple of taps on your phone. It's an easy 179 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: I guess it's an easy trap to fall into. 180 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: But just don't even put the app on your phone, 181 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 2: you know, that's how you avoid that. NFL dot comat 182 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,320 Speaker 2: he put together a list of rookies they believe could 183 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 2: provide instant impact in year one on the defensive side 184 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: of the ball, and Bill's linebacker Dorian Williams made the list. 185 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,600 Speaker 2: Chad Ruter wrote the story for NFL dot Com. Here's 186 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: what he wrote about Williams. Williams could earn a starting 187 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 2: spot for the Bills in twenty twenty three, possibly replacing 188 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 2: Tremaine Edmonds in the middle given the third round picks, 189 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 2: powerful tackling, and knows for the ball. He's no run plugger, 190 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: so expect to see him chasing downplays headed for the sidelines. 191 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 2: I think there's going to be stiff competition for Dorian Williams. 192 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 2: You know us having seen this competition to some degree 193 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 2: up close and personal. 194 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: I haven't really, and. 195 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: You've seen more than I have, because, as we've said, 196 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: I'm usually in here doing the show before practice is 197 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 2: even over. For those spring practices that we saw, I'm 198 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:57,679 Speaker 2: hopeful because I didn't see a ton of flashes from 199 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 2: Dorian Williams in the team setting, I'm hopeful that more 200 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 2: of his game shows up when the pads go on. 201 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, and these guys, especially the rookies who are just 202 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: picking up an NFL playbook for the first time, I 203 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 3: think the speed at which they play, especially in those 204 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: first few weeks in ots mandatory Mini camp. Rookie mini 205 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 3: camp even is just so slow compared to hopefully the 206 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 3: speed that they'll be playing at once week one begins 207 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 3: even training camp. And I asked Sean McDermott once mandatory 208 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 3: Mini camp start, I was like, hey, are you expecting 209 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 3: these rookies to like take a step forward this week 210 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 3: since they've had a few weeks of practice and a 211 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,479 Speaker 3: few weeks of meetings already, And he said, not necessarily 212 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 3: right now. Yes, we are looking forward to them making 213 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: some progress here in mandatory Mini camp. But he said, 214 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:47,080 Speaker 3: I think the big changes will start to see once 215 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 3: training camp starts. As these guys break for six weeks 216 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 3: and they can continue to learn things, continue to work 217 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: out on their own, we want to see those changes 218 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 3: come training camp. So maybe he'll flash a little bit 219 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 3: more there. But man, I after the season is over 220 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 3: and Dorian can reveal, you know, if he's a starter, 221 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: if he's played at all, it'll be interesting to hear 222 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 3: somebody who did not play in the toughest defense at 223 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 3: two lane to pick up a defense like the Bills play. 224 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 3: It'll be interesting to hear him say how challenging it 225 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,960 Speaker 3: was because I know it's not the easiest thing to do, 226 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,120 Speaker 3: and you get drafted into the NFL and into a 227 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 3: team like the Bills because they believe you can do that. 228 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,839 Speaker 1: Right, And you know you mentioned the speed of the game. 229 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: When the pads go on and you get the training camp, 230 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: it goes up another notch because now it's real football 231 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: and even though you're playing thud and not tackling to 232 00:12:38,960 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 2: the grounds, there's a greater physical element to it. 233 00:12:42,880 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: Obviously. 234 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,320 Speaker 2: I think that actually helps Dorian Williams because he kind 235 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 2: of plays a physical style, a. 236 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 4: Little bit more reactionary, right, Yeah. 237 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, So you would hope that with the pads going on, 238 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 2: it's going to benefit his game and he's going to 239 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 2: show up more. Again, I think we do have to 240 00:13:03,080 --> 00:13:07,560 Speaker 2: respect what he is undertaking here, not just the learning 241 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: curve with the scheme as you mentioned, but now as 242 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: a twenty one to twenty two year old stepping into 243 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 2: the huddle and calling the play and. 244 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:16,959 Speaker 1: Then making pre snap back to the defense. 245 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, making pre snap checks at the same time, and 246 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 2: getting guys at some of whom are ten years older 247 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: than him, to listen to him and say, this is 248 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 2: what we're doing. 249 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: And I know I'm right on this. That's a challenge, true. 250 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 3: Tremaine said was tough for him in his first few years. 251 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: He really wasn't that talkative of a player. By the 252 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: time he was in his last couple of seasons with 253 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 3: the Bills, the talkative part of him definitely increased. In 254 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 3: his leadership style, he started to use his voice a 255 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 3: lot more. But he said it in those first couple 256 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 3: of years, especially that first season, that he was a starter, 257 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 3: like speaking up and calling the plays and alerting people 258 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 3: to certain things. Especially when you've got guys who are, 259 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: you know, in your late twenties standing behind you, some 260 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: of the best safeties in the NFL, and and you're 261 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 3: helping by telling what to do or what the reed 262 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 3: needs to be here. 263 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 4: It's a lot. And the expectations too. 264 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 3: I'm curious to see once we get into the season 265 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 3: if it will be revealed what the plan is for 266 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 3: Dorian Williams. 267 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 4: And I know he has to earn the. 268 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 3: Spot, but Bobby Babbage talked really highly of him and 269 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 3: really liked what he saw with his college tape. And 270 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: I know Sean mcderrit and Brandon being like to temper 271 00:14:24,440 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 3: those expectations, especially in year one, and they have done 272 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 3: so at Dorian Williams and even Dalton Coincaid, right. 273 00:14:31,760 --> 00:14:35,600 Speaker 2: And you know, I guess I'm just thinking back to 274 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 2: Tremaine em and since you brought him up, and what 275 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 2: helped him be more vocal? Were veterans pushing him to 276 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: do that? Like Lorenzo Alexander would push him to speak 277 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: up in meetings. Kyle Williams was doing the same thing. 278 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 2: So there was that veteran presence that encouraged him to 279 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 2: take on more of a vocal presence, whether it was 280 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 2: in the huddle, on the field between play, on the 281 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: sideline between series, or in meeting rooms. And you know, 282 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: is Aj Klein that guy, if you know Dorian Williams 283 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 2: ends up winning the job, does he kind of push 284 00:15:10,760 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 2: him to the forefront and say it's time for you 285 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: to speak up? Whatever the case might be. We're a 286 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 2: long way from that because there's other people in the mix. 287 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 2: You know, as we've mentioned ump team number of times here, 288 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 2: it's gonna be one of the more fascinating position battles 289 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 2: at training camp for sure. NFL dot Com also did 290 00:15:28,880 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 2: a list of offensive rookies they thought could provide instant impact. 291 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 2: It's disappointed not to see Dalton Kincaid on the list. 292 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 2: They went with Sam Laporta for the Detroit Lions instead, which, look, 293 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 2: I think Sam laport is gonna have a nice career 294 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 2: in Detroit. 295 00:15:42,080 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: I do. 296 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I kind of liked him 297 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: as the next best pass catching weapon at the tight 298 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: end position after Kincaid, But I I don't know. I 299 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 2: just thought Kincaid might get a little more love there, but. 300 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 1: He did not. 301 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: I scrolled right to the tight ends or right to 302 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 3: it was only one and I was like, no, Dons 303 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 3: not on this list. 304 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, but maybe that's for the best. Who knows. One 305 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: bit of free agent news. 306 00:16:08,960 --> 00:16:13,560 Speaker 2: Running Back Dalvin Cook, he formerly of the Minnesota Vikings, 307 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: has reportedly received multiple contract offers. One of those is 308 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: reportedly coming from the Miami Dolphins, Cook's hometown team. Now 309 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 2: we know that he's already said publicly that would be 310 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 2: a dream scenario for him playing for the Dolphins. Reports indicate, though, 311 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 2: that Cook will take his time on which offer to take, 312 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 2: which may not come until right before training camp. My 313 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 2: thinking is this, manny, if the Dolphins are your dream 314 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 2: scenario and they've reportedly made you a contract offer, how bad, 315 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 2: was it if you're not taking it? Yeah, that was 316 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 2: your dream scenario there, it is. The money must be awful, right, 317 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:58,280 Speaker 2: like I would think so, I mean, if it's at 318 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 2: least respectable and that's where you want to play, you 319 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:02,920 Speaker 2: sign the deal. 320 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 3: And you think about the running back market, what running 321 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: backs are worth now in today's any NFL, that number 322 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 3: gets smaller and smaller, especially when depending on what your 323 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,959 Speaker 3: salary cap situation is. Teams are almost there, they're almost 324 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 3: to a capacity right now. Some teams still having to 325 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:21,879 Speaker 3: figure out how they can get under or figure out 326 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 3: how they can make it work with rookies and potentially 327 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: signing other guys once we get into training camp. 328 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 4: But yeah, I wonder what that number. 329 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:32,120 Speaker 1: He must have been supremely low balled, Like. 330 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 2: I mean, because if you sign now, it's not like 331 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 2: there's because we've seen. 332 00:17:39,840 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 1: This from veterans before. You know, they really don't want 333 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,199 Speaker 1: to be there for OTAs or mandatory mini camps. 334 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 2: It's like, you know what, I'm going to sign right 335 00:17:47,840 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: before training camp. But it's not like you're you're signing 336 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 2: up to do anything now until you get to training camp. 337 00:17:54,600 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 2: So I'm curious, As he said, one thing The Dolphins 338 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 2: have reportedly made an offer, and he hasn't jumped at that, 339 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: so I gotta believe it's it's a rather unimpressive offer. 340 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,640 Speaker 1: I mean, what else could it be. 341 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:13,880 Speaker 2: He said that's where he thought it would be great 342 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 2: if he could play there, but not for this kind 343 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 2: of money. I need more money than that, Like, I mean, 344 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 2: is that where we are? That's probably where we are, 345 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 2: I would think, because there's no other reason why he 346 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 2: wouldn't just sign the deal and go, and he would 347 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 2: zoom right to the top of that. 348 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, depth charge. 349 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 3: He's had four straight seasons of over a thousand rushing 350 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,400 Speaker 3: yards and yeah, he's put up numbers when he's healthy, and. 351 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,199 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, he would be a good fit in 352 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 2: that San Francisco style rushing attack. Well, he would be 353 00:18:41,480 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: good in any system. He's a universal fit, but he 354 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: would be pretty dangerous in there. 355 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: And then we get to play against him twice a year. 356 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: The Cook Brothers, Yeah, the Cook brother Battle. 357 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: Actually you'd have two sets of brothers because you'd have 358 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: the Fergusons and the cook Oh my. 359 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 4: Gosh, yeah, pretty wild. Probably a first. 360 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: If in fact that happens, it might be. I would 361 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: bet it would be that's pretty rare. I would think, 362 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,920 Speaker 1: I would think there's a really good chance. That's a first. 363 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,959 Speaker 2: We'd have to get Elias Sports Bureau on that and 364 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 2: see if in fact that is the case. If if 365 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:22,040 Speaker 2: you're thirsty for Bill's training camp info, Buffalo Bills dot 366 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: com is where you want to go where we're already 367 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: putting up some Bills training camp previews. The latest installment 368 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: by our colleague Alec White is who is ready to 369 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:40,239 Speaker 2: emerge on offense? And we kind of touched on a 370 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 2: similar subject earlier this week when we talked about you know, 371 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,600 Speaker 2: who's your sleeper that you don't think anybody's thinking is 372 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,320 Speaker 2: going to do much of anything this season. This is 373 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: kind of in the same vein to some degree. But 374 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna tease Alec a little bit. He hedged at the 375 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 2: running back position, he picked two people, not one. He 376 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 2: picked James Cook and Damien Harris. But I think he's 377 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 2: excited about what the tandem can provide to the running game, 378 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,880 Speaker 2: which really kind of needs a shot in the arm, 379 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 2: because if you take Josh Allen out of the equation, 380 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 2: the Bills are precipitously close to the bottom third of 381 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 2: the league. In rushing, and it's not just from a 382 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: rushing yardage total, but from a yards per carry total 383 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: as well, And I'm. 384 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 1: Just as excited. 385 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 2: I think those two guys can make a tremendous difference 386 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: in the efficiency of the run game. I don't think 387 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 2: any of us are under the false pretenses that this 388 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: is suddenly going to be, you know, a fifty to 389 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 2: fifty offensive balance between the run and the pass. The 390 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: passing game is what the identity of this offense is. 391 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 2: But when they do run it, I think these two 392 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,639 Speaker 2: guys are going to make it far more efficient than 393 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: we've seen the last couple of years. 394 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 3: And when we had the question on Monday of who's 395 00:20:57,920 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 3: a sleeper on the roster right now? 396 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 4: James Cook. 397 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 3: But you can't talk about James Cook without talking about 398 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 3: Damien Harris and the other running backs in the room, 399 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 3: because it's how are they going to share the load? 400 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 3: How are they going to share the carries that are 401 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 3: given to that room to each other, and so that 402 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 3: it makes sense to have both of them two in 403 00:21:17,080 --> 00:21:17,879 Speaker 3: that category. 404 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: And I keep wrestling with the roster decisions. We're in 405 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 2: late June and already talking about the fifty three. What 406 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 2: are they going to look like but yeah, but who 407 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 2: is the odd man out there? 408 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: Because it's tough. 409 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 2: You know that Reggie Gilliam does so many things in 410 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 2: this offense that he and on special teams that he's 411 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 2: going to be here at least I would be shocked 412 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 2: if he wasn't. 413 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: He just signed an extension last year. 414 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 415 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:44,399 Speaker 1: Right, So he's on the roster. He's a foregone conclusion. 416 00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,960 Speaker 2: And then you have Cook, Harris Murray and then Nahim 417 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: Hines and Hines not only now has competition at the 418 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 2: running back position with these two veterans in Harris and 419 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: Latavius Murray, but he's also got competition on returns with 420 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 2: Deontay Hardy. So there are some different ways that that 421 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: can go. Like initially, I was thinking, well, is Latavius 422 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: Murray the Duke Johnson player this year, the veteran who 423 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: sits on the practice squad and gets called up when. 424 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: They need him? Or is he? 425 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: But then you look at his numbers last year and 426 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: it's like, man, four point four per carry is nothing 427 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: to sneeze at, Like that's productive? So does he push 428 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: somebody else out of the running back room? It's again 429 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 2: like you look at this roster and you say to yourself, eh, 430 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 2: you know, it's pretty much said, you know who's really 431 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 2: going to change things? 432 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: And then get you sink your teeth into it. 433 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,520 Speaker 2: A little bit more and you're like, well, dang, that 434 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,639 Speaker 2: could happen or that guy might be in trouble. Like 435 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,280 Speaker 2: you know what I mean, you really start talking yourself 436 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,680 Speaker 2: into a bunch of different scenarios. 437 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,639 Speaker 3: And I think with the running back room, when you 438 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,239 Speaker 3: talk about those players is it's not like you have 439 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 3: a carbon copy of one. They're all different, they all 440 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 3: offer different. 441 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 4: Things on the field. 442 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,080 Speaker 3: They all have different measurables in terms of what they 443 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 3: look like, they're height, their weight, and they can all 444 00:23:01,240 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: do different things. I know you can put Damien Harris 445 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 3: and Latavius Murray kind of in your bulldozer category in 446 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: your short yard situations, but Latavius Murray is so much 447 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,400 Speaker 3: taller than Damien Harris. Are they looking for a little 448 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,359 Speaker 3: bit of height for some different scenarios or for some 449 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 3: different play calls? Can Latavius do some things that Damien 450 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 3: Harris can't do it? And vice versa? So I'm like, 451 00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 3: could we carry an extra running back? I'm a fifty 452 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 3: three man roster this year, and yeah, I could talk 453 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: about the roster and what I think is going to 454 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,080 Speaker 3: happen to the roster and how excited I am to 455 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 3: get into training camp to start to solve some of 456 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: those question marks in my mind, because this is going 457 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 3: to be something that we are talking about up until 458 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:46,879 Speaker 3: the end of August when we do get to final 459 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: fifty three. 460 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 2: Upfront, Spencer Brown was the choice there, and you know, 461 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:58,199 Speaker 2: Brandon Bean commented on how Brown's second half of the 462 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 2: season was encouraging. We all know how he got off 463 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 2: to a rough start, missing just about all a training 464 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 2: camp coming off of back surgery, then in the high 465 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 2: ankle spring. Fought through that back half of the season though, 466 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:15,119 Speaker 2: was encouraging from Brown, as Bean saw it. And so 467 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 2: I think they're really hoping he uses that as a 468 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: springboard into this season, which by all accounts he's going 469 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 2: to start healthy and be a full participant in training 470 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:25,520 Speaker 2: camp come late July. 471 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: I know, I'm just like, I need to knock on 472 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,679 Speaker 3: wood here so that he doesn't get healthy during the season. 473 00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 3: He just has not had luck on his side for 474 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 3: being healthy throughout a season, entering the season healthier, getting 475 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: through a season healthy. It's just been so hard for him, 476 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 3: and this training staff does such a good job making 477 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 3: sure these guys are ready to go for the wear 478 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 3: and tear that they're going to have during a season, 479 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 3: and they start in the off season. They start when 480 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: the guys come back for workouts in April, and they 481 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: carry on through OTAs and workouts will be a big 482 00:24:56,840 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 3: part of training camp as well, so being healthy being 483 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,879 Speaker 3: able to go through all of that. I've got to 484 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 3: say He's going to be really good for Spencer's Spencer 485 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: Brown's body. I want to see him make an impact. 486 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 3: I want to see him take that next step. I 487 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 3: remember when we drafted him and we started to see 488 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 3: the kind of changing of the offensive line to a 489 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:21,440 Speaker 3: lot of these taller guys we do have. We had 490 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,640 Speaker 3: taller guys on the offensive line before Spencer Brown got here, 491 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 3: But I mean, you add Spencer Brown, and you add 492 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 3: Tommy Doyle, and you had Osirus Torrence, and it's like 493 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: you've got a starting basketball roster here, a starting five. 494 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 4: I want to see them play football. 495 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: I want to see them knock around some defensive linemen 496 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 3: to give Josh Allen the time he needs in the 497 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 3: pocket to be the incredible quarterback that he is, So 498 00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: I'm really looking forward to see what Spencer can do 499 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:47,359 Speaker 3: this season. 500 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,840 Speaker 2: Trent Sherfield was listed on the receiver category and then 501 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 2: obviously Dalton Kincaid. 502 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: Kincaid for obvious reason. 503 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:59,640 Speaker 2: Sherfield is interesting because I think there are some unknowns 504 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 2: at the receiver position beyond the players that Bill's fans 505 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 2: are unfamiliar with. They know Digs, they know Davis, and 506 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 2: they got some familiarity with Khalil Shakiir last year as 507 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 2: a rookie, but they really don't know much about Trent Sherfield, 508 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:19,639 Speaker 2: Deontay Hardy, Justin Shorter and the rest of the lot. 509 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: Sherfield had a really nice spring and can he carry 510 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,440 Speaker 2: that into training camp when the pads go on. That's 511 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 2: the telltale factor here, But knowing he's done it before 512 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 2: in this league, I mean, the signs are pretty encouraging 513 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: right now. 514 00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 4: I would say, yeah, definitely. 515 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,719 Speaker 3: And I think one thing that's exciting too, with some 516 00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 3: of the newness that we have with this wide receiver room, 517 00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 3: with this running back room, the tight ends. 518 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: Room, It's like, what is going to be different here 519 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:49,359 Speaker 4: on offense? 520 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: Because you have some different pieces to play with, you 521 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 3: have some different pieces to put in different places depending 522 00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 3: on what a defense is showing you. So I'm really 523 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 3: looking forward to to see how Trent Surefield fits into everything. 524 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: With the type of offense, Yes, it's going to be similar, 525 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 3: but maybe some of the different tweaks that we're going 526 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,680 Speaker 3: to see from Ken Dorsey in his second year calling 527 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 3: plays for the Bills offense. 528 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 2: So that's a look at players set to emerge on 529 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,760 Speaker 2: offense for the Bills heading into training camp. Part of 530 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 2: the Training camppreview on Buffalo Bills dot com. So stay 531 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 2: close to that if you're thirsty for some Bills news, 532 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: especially during the July fourth holiday week. We have to 533 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 2: take a break here because when we come back, we're 534 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:31,639 Speaker 2: going to be joined by senior football writer and analyst 535 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,520 Speaker 2: for The Ringer Kevin Clark. 536 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: Joins us. 537 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 2: Recently had Josh Allen on his Slow news Day podcast. 538 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: We'll get into that among other things coming up next 539 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,479 Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Colta Health, It's 540 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, welcome back to One Bill's Live. 541 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 2: Chris Brown Matti lab here with you on a Wednesday. 542 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 2: Happy to be joined now a senior football writer and 543 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 2: analyst for the Ringer. It is one Kevin Clark joining 544 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 2: us on the show. Kevin, thanks for spending some of 545 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:07,680 Speaker 2: your quote unquote down NFL time on the calendar with us. 546 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: You know, it's the time where everybody's trying to recharge 547 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 2: the batteries, So thank you for giving us some of 548 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 2: your time during that period. You have been very busy 549 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 2: though cranking out the content. I know you talked to 550 00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 2: Josh Allen recently. He was a guest on your Slow 551 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 2: news Day podcast. What was your biggest takeaway from him 552 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 2: in the time that you spent regarding the outlook for 553 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three. 554 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 5: Well, there's a couple of things. What's interesting to me 555 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,439 Speaker 5: is seeing this is my tenth year covering the NFL, 556 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 5: seeing how a star develops over his first four or 557 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 5: five years in the NFL. And Josh is so comfortable 558 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,080 Speaker 5: doing the media stuff, so comfortable with the expectations of 559 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 5: being a franchise quarterback in that region and kind of 560 00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 5: knowing what all what that all encompasses, and it's almost 561 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 5: like he's another team spokesman, right, So it's interesting to 562 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 5: sort of pick his brain about what he thinks expectations are. 563 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 5: They're high. We know that It is probably one of 564 00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: the hardest ever eras to have high expectations in a conference. 565 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 5: When you look at the AFC, where not only do 566 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 5: you have the folks who are really good last year, 567 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 5: you're adding Aaron Rodgers and that into that division, let 568 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 5: alone conference. It's it's gonna be a tough road to hope, 569 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 5: but he was totally comfortable with it. I have the 570 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 5: most interesting thing that we talked about was the push 571 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,880 Speaker 5: and pull between changing as a player, maybe not taking 572 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 5: as many hits, maybe not taking as many risks, with 573 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 5: being able to still be Josh Allen. I think that's 574 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 5: going to be something that he struggles with his entire career. 575 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 5: Patrick Mahomes still struggles with it. Is I think the 576 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 5: way you want to play, the way that you know. 577 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 5: I think both Josh and Patrick are similar and that 578 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 5: they play a very almost childlike game. 579 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 1: Right. 580 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 5: What I mean by that is it's the way you'd 581 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 5: play if you played in Pop Warner. If we all 582 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 5: could and we all had the size and the strength 583 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,000 Speaker 5: and throwing arm, we would play like those guys. But 584 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 5: how do you manage that over the course of your career? 585 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,160 Speaker 5: Brandon Being told me last year, you know, the one 586 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 5: thing that he gets on Josh about is taking those 587 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,479 Speaker 5: extra hits and trying to truck Kyle van Noy for 588 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 5: no reason. But Josh like doing that. So the adjustment period, 589 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 5: you know, is going to be ongoing. But I'm intrigued 590 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 5: to see how it all develops. 591 00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 3: You spoke about the expectations on him and on this 592 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 3: team this season. I mean, the AFC East is not 593 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 3: going to be an easy division to win. The Dolphins 594 00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 3: are better, the Jets have Aaron Rodgers, and we know 595 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 3: Josh Allen and Aaron Rodgers are our buddies outside of football. 596 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 3: I know he spoke about playing against Aaron Rodgers and 597 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: their relationship on your podcast. 598 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 4: So what did he have to say about that? 599 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, breaking news, Josh Allen does get 600 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 5: his facetimes answered by Aaron Rodgers, which, as Josh said, 601 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 5: you know that's not true for everybody, including maybe some 602 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 5: of Aaron's old employers. But Josh and Aaron our buddies. 603 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 5: They talk obviously. I think a lot of those high 604 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 5: level quarterbacks talk, and sometimes they golf together. All of 605 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 5: that stuff. It's no surprise they have a relationship. I 606 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 5: think Josh has spoken about how much he adored Aaron 607 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 5: growing up. Remember the style of play that Josh does, 608 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 5: as far as using his legs, using his brains, using 609 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,640 Speaker 5: a huge arm, A lot of that was what Aaron 610 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 5: was doing fifteen years ago and now god World. But 611 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 5: I mean, you just think about when he first broke 612 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 5: out of the scene after sitting on the bench for 613 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 5: three years. Aaron Rodgers was unbelievable and a kind of 614 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,600 Speaker 5: a sign of things to come for what what the 615 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,440 Speaker 5: NFL would look like. So I think generally he's excited 616 00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,200 Speaker 5: about it. He said it was going to be a dogfight. 617 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:24,920 Speaker 5: I think that's kind of surprise anybody. That defense in 618 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 5: New York was really, really good. I was actually looking 619 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 5: at some of the numbers sort of incidentally last night, 620 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 5: but that defensive line and the front seven, and how 621 00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 5: talented they are. Sauce Gardner is one of the best 622 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 5: cornerbacks in the league of what alone young cornerbacks. So 623 00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:41,880 Speaker 5: all you do is add a two time one year 624 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 5: removed from being the back to back MVP to a 625 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 5: really good defense that would have made the playoff. I 626 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 5: think they were seven to four last year. Then they 627 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 5: just kind of collapse it some quarterback issues. Obviously, we 628 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 5: all saw those. You add one of the best players 629 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,040 Speaker 5: ever played the game to the quarterback position. Even though 630 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 5: I think the floor is a little lower than maybe 631 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 5: maybe Jets fans think, or maybe even the Jets think. 632 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 5: I had the floors a little lower because I didn't 633 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 5: love seeing some of the stuff I saw at Aaron 634 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 5: Rodgers last year. We just know they're gonna be much 635 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,040 Speaker 5: improved that division. There's three teams there that have a 636 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 5: legitimate contender status. I think Miami if everybody stays healthy. 637 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 5: You know, Mike mccanniel shared a lot of promise of 638 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 5: the officive side of the ball last year. Vic Fangio 639 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 5: is an elite defensive coordinator, leite defensive mind. They have 640 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 5: talent on that side of the ball. They put resources there. 641 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 5: So you're looking at three teams that frankly wouldn't surprise 642 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 5: me if we see them in the Super Bowl. 643 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: I know we're away so off from Week one, but 644 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 2: since we've mentioned Jets Bills, let's just dive into that 645 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 2: Monday night week One thing from this perspective, Kevin, we 646 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 2: know the New York hepe machine can very quickly get 647 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 2: out of control and fill any New York fan with 648 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 2: visions of very unrealistic expectations, and then when those aren't realized, 649 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,880 Speaker 2: that fan base then turns on their own team and 650 00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:07,320 Speaker 2: tries to eat them for dinner. So Week one, nine 651 00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 2: to eleven, Monday Night, I mean, you know there's gonna 652 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: be NFL pomp and circumstance beforehand to honor you know 653 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 2: you nine to eleven, honoring it, respecting it, you know, 654 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 2: never forgetting all of that, and then all of the 655 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 2: build up to this season with Aaron Rodgers. I'm wondering 656 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 2: how it's gonna look if they're down thirteen to nothing 657 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 2: in the second quarter. 658 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: Is it gonna get ugly? 659 00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: Like? What what can we be walking into there? If 660 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:35,920 Speaker 2: it doesn't go well early for the Jets. 661 00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:40,760 Speaker 5: It's a great question. I would urge Jets fans to 662 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 5: have a little patience, and I know that they don't 663 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 5: want to because it's so funny. I don't mean to 664 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 5: make fun of Jets fans. People do that all the time. 665 00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 5: I think Jets fans are good. I think the Jets 666 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 5: organization has made them look bad. There have been a 667 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 5: handful of times where they've come at me because I 668 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 5: said the Adam Gase, Sam Darnold thing was never gonna work, 669 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 5: or that it was a bad job. A couple of 670 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 5: years ago and they gave Mike mccagden an extra draft 671 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 5: which he botched. And even last year one of my 672 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 5: podcasts said that that Zach Wilson was never going to 673 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 5: be as good as James Winston. So this is two 674 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 5: years ago and everybody went, you know, hundreds of people 675 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 5: in our DM sending whatever, and it's like, well, they 676 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 5: hadn't learned yet that the Jets were not a high 677 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,880 Speaker 5: functioning organization and that they needed somebody like Aaron Rodgers 678 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,799 Speaker 5: to come in and solve their problems. I just think 679 00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 5: that the Jets over the last i'd say twenty years, 680 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 5: it's been more of it's been the exception, not the rule. 681 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 5: When they have a successful season, it just, I don't know, 682 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 5: they're just not one of the top franchises in the NFL. 683 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 5: And so I think what's happening now and talking to 684 00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 5: Jets fans around the Tri State area where I live, 685 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,799 Speaker 5: is there's this release and they're saying, Okay, everything's going 686 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 5: to change now next year's here. All the things they've 687 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 5: wanted to say. The thing I want to urge them 688 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,439 Speaker 5: is if it gets rough in September and it takes 689 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 5: a little bit to click. And I think that there's 690 00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 5: some high expectations and some progress. I think because Aaron 691 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 5: is locked in with OTA's and mini camps, and I'll 692 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 5: obviously be there for all training camp as he normally is. 693 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 5: But if it takes a little bit to click, if 694 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 5: chemistry isn't there, it's September, Aaron Rodgers, it takes a 695 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 5: lot to earn his trust as a receiver. If they 696 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,560 Speaker 5: start two and two or one in three, just remember 697 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:23,560 Speaker 5: the sky isn't falling. That's the most important thing. I wish. 698 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,279 Speaker 5: I wish you could go door to door in my 699 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,600 Speaker 5: neighborhood guys and just say, if you're a Jets fan, 700 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:30,759 Speaker 5: calm down, because it might be a tough road to help. 701 00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 5: Because we've seen in the past where Aaron Rodgers had 702 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 5: taken September and October sort of get the offense under him, 703 00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:38,279 Speaker 5: get the personnel under him, and then he takes off 704 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 5: in the second half of the season. We've seen that 705 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 5: time and time again. So I'm with you, guys. I 706 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 5: think that there's going to be sort of the air 707 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 5: might come out of the building with Jets fans on 708 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,360 Speaker 5: that first Monday night if the Bills go out to 709 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,680 Speaker 5: a touchdown lead, the most important thing is realizing that this 710 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 5: is a long term investment at quarterback. 711 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 3: So while the Jets are the heype machine this year 712 00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 3: of the afcees, the Bills have kind of taken a 713 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 3: step down in that regard. I mean, last year, the 714 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 3: hype for the Bills was out of this world. And 715 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 3: I know this team kind of feeds off of kind 716 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 3: of being underdogs and maybe they get a little bit 717 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,160 Speaker 3: more of that this season. And Josh Allen has talked about, 718 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 3: you know, when he came back for OTAs a mandatory 719 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 3: mini camp, the window that this team has to do something, 720 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 3: has to win a Super Bowl. How much or how 721 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,200 Speaker 3: long do you think that window is still going to 722 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 3: be open for And when you look at the roster 723 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 3: that they have this season, how wide open is that 724 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 3: window for them this year? 725 00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 5: I will borrow a quote from Joe Burrow, another AFC 726 00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 5: star quarterback, who said that the championship window is as 727 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 5: long as he's there. I think that's true of Josh Allen, 728 00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 5: and I think it's true by the way of pretty 729 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 5: much every top AFC quarterback where that's Mahomes and obviously 730 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 5: Rogers will will have to see. But there's a lot 731 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 5: of good quarterbacks in the AFC right now. But as 732 00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 5: long as Josh Allen's there, they have the chance to 733 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:02,880 Speaker 5: win the Super Bowl's ceiling that he has. This roster 734 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 5: is really good. They really went all in financially on 735 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,719 Speaker 5: von Miller this time last year. He gets hurt. That 736 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:13,839 Speaker 5: changes the trajectory of everything basically, but contract wise, this 737 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,440 Speaker 5: core it needs to be soon. There needs to be 738 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 5: a push soon because you know, the blessing and the 739 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 5: curse of having a good quarterback and good young players 740 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,239 Speaker 5: is that you have to pay them, and so you're 741 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 5: starting to you know, Dalton Kincaid could be a really 742 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 5: incredible piece. I love your two of Kenny Dorsey. So 743 00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:33,520 Speaker 5: they're in the mixt year. I mean, I think that. 744 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,359 Speaker 5: Unfortunately from a from a hot tape prognostication standpoint, like, 745 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 5: it's hard for me to say anything other than there's 746 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 5: four or five teams at the top of the AFC 747 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:45,840 Speaker 5: and it's gonna come down to injuries, luck, and just 748 00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:47,920 Speaker 5: a couple of career seasons from a couple of B 749 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 5: plus players in the roster. That's all that that that's 750 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:54,000 Speaker 5: basically the differentiation between the Chiefs, the Bills, the Bengals, 751 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 5: some of these teams, and so it's gonna be even 752 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 5: I think the Broncos would be much improved. I think 753 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 5: Justin Herbert and the Chargers gonna have an little run. 754 00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:03,359 Speaker 5: So it's gonna be so hard to stave them off. 755 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,920 Speaker 5: But Josh Allen, Sean McDermott, Brandon Bean making the decision, 756 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,120 Speaker 5: the talent on this roster, They're always going to be 757 00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,200 Speaker 5: in the mix, and I think you're gonna see double 758 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:15,160 Speaker 5: digit wins as the floor. And then from there comes 759 00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:16,320 Speaker 5: down to the things I talked about. 760 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,360 Speaker 2: Last one for me, Kevin, you had a fun question 761 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,919 Speaker 2: on one of your podcasts about NFL teams being able 762 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,800 Speaker 2: to wear throwback uniforms more often. There is a segment 763 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 2: of the Bills fan base that is obsessed with seeing 764 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,120 Speaker 2: the red helmets make a return at some point in time. 765 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 2: So I'm not just talking about jerseys here. We know 766 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 2: that the league is pretty strict and you got to 767 00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,080 Speaker 2: jump through a lot of hoops just to get clearance 768 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,800 Speaker 2: to wear it for one game or two games, and 769 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,680 Speaker 2: you know the color rush jerseys and all of that. 770 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 2: But I remember when they were wearing the old AFL 771 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,640 Speaker 2: jerseys back in nine, when it was like the fiftieth anniversary, 772 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 2: you know, of the AFL. 773 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,600 Speaker 1: Those things were sweet. 774 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 2: Do you could you foresee a time where the league 775 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 2: maybe relaxes that a little bit. 776 00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 5: They have relaxed a little bit of the helmet rules, 777 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 5: but I would love to be able to see a 778 00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 5: lot of delving into the history. I do think for 779 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 5: as much as America loves football and it's the only 780 00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:18,439 Speaker 5: thing they still watch in mass I do think there's 781 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 5: a lack of appreciation of the sports history, and I 782 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 5: think throwback uniforms are a nice little entry point into hey, 783 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 5: what was the deal with this team, what was the 784 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 5: deal with this team that made the ancy title game 785 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:33,080 Speaker 5: forty years ago? Whatever it may be. I love that 786 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,439 Speaker 5: element of it and seeing these different uniforms you see 787 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,799 Speaker 5: with college football a lot. Let's say, hey, we're gonna 788 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:40,640 Speaker 5: wear these in tribute to the nineteen twenty seventeen or 789 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 5: whatever it is. If you're Notre Dame, or you're Michigan 790 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 5: or you're one of those teams. And so I love that. 791 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,600 Speaker 5: Dis from appreciation of the history standpoint, I think it's 792 00:39:47,600 --> 00:39:50,160 Speaker 5: a cool little nod and also some of these these 793 00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 5: uniforms just look cool. I mean, there's a reason that 794 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 5: Bills fans you mentioned are clamoring for that helmet or 795 00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:00,399 Speaker 5: that in Tampa Bay they're clamoring for buccaneer Bruce come back, 796 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,240 Speaker 5: which it sounds like he is the cream school uniforms 797 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,680 Speaker 5: we back this year, Like that's the part of a 798 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 5: fan base. I'm a huge Orlando Magic fan. I would 799 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,359 Speaker 5: empty my bank account if they went back to those 800 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 5: old nineties jerseys permanently buying, you know, every single different 801 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:16,600 Speaker 5: version that's possible. That's all That's all I care about 802 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,680 Speaker 5: is that uniform and so it's a nice little nodge nostalgia. 803 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,680 Speaker 5: It grounds people in the past and things that they remember. 804 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 5: So I'm hugely in favor of throwback uniforms. 805 00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 3: One more for me, Sean McDermott will be calling the 806 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,480 Speaker 3: plays here this season. He has been a defensive coordinator before. Obviously, 807 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 3: is there anything that you want to see from Sean 808 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:40,480 Speaker 3: McDermott as he becomes the DC of the Bills defense 809 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:41,080 Speaker 3: this season? 810 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:46,879 Speaker 5: I don't expect a huge change, only because when you're 811 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,000 Speaker 5: when you're the DC or when you're a defensive head coach. 812 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,279 Speaker 5: You're also kind of the DC unless you really relinquish shit. 813 00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,279 Speaker 5: You know, the defense was second in points last year 814 00:40:56,320 --> 00:41:00,880 Speaker 5: and first before that. I don't expect a huge change, frankly, 815 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 5: with anything. They still have the personnel there, they still 816 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,719 Speaker 5: have a lot of talent, and John mcdermot's done it 817 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 5: with some really good teams and some really good situations. 818 00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 5: So that's that, you know. I would love, I normally 819 00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 5: love to see a DC just in place, just because 820 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,360 Speaker 5: I think I've heard coaches talk about what's called the 821 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 5: three M rule, which is, you know, when you wake 822 00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:21,839 Speaker 5: up at three and you need to be thinking about 823 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 5: one thing, and if that's defense and being the head coach, 824 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:27,680 Speaker 5: sometimes it gets a little bit confusing. But I think 825 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:29,840 Speaker 5: one of the last people I'm worried about is is 826 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,280 Speaker 5: Sean McDermot calling the defense. 827 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,840 Speaker 2: Kevin, thanks for the time. Is always, enjoy your summer. 828 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:35,839 Speaker 2: We'll catch you out. 829 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: Of Bill's training camp, all right, see you then. 830 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,800 Speaker 2: All right, that's Kevin Clark, senior football writer and analyst 831 00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,879 Speaker 2: for The Ringer. Maddie and I take a break here. 832 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 2: We'll wrap it up with an award that a Bill's 833 00:41:48,680 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 2: part of the part of the building a department. They're 834 00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 2: gonna be getting an sp We'll tell you who when 835 00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 2: we come back here on One Bill's Live, presented by 836 00:41:55,800 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 2: a Lot of Health It's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, 837 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 2: one last segment here for Chris Brown, Matti lab on 838 00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:10,600 Speaker 2: One Bill's Live with You and the Buffalo Bill's Training 839 00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: staff is going to be the recipient of the Pat 840 00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:19,120 Speaker 2: Tillman Service Award during the twenty twenty three SPIS, which 841 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 2: will be on ABC on July twelfth at a PM. 842 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:27,320 Speaker 2: The award is going to honor their life saving measures 843 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,120 Speaker 2: that they performed on Monday Night Football obviously when Tamar 844 00:42:31,239 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 2: Hamlin was unresponsive on the field, and we know they 845 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,919 Speaker 2: got honored you know here at high Mark Stadium late 846 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 2: last season. But nice to see them getting, you know, 847 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 2: some national recognition as well. 848 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 3: It was cool to see him on the stage for 849 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:49,480 Speaker 3: the NFL Awards show as well. Now they get to 850 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,040 Speaker 3: be on stage for the SPS if they're going to 851 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 3: travel to receive that award, and DeMar Hamlin continues his 852 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 3: rightfully so gal vanting across the world. I saw him 853 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,719 Speaker 3: in a Pittsburgh Pirates jersey on the field for the 854 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 3: Pirates game yesterday with his brother. 855 00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 4: Oh, I love it. He just looks so happy in 856 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 4: his home. 857 00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: Down and he's going to be throwing out the first 858 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 2: pitch at the Yankees game on July third. 859 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:15,520 Speaker 3: Wow. 860 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: And part of the reason he agreed to do that. 861 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,880 Speaker 2: Because as you mentioned, the Pirates are his team, is 862 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:25,320 Speaker 2: because prior to the game, the Yankees players are going 863 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,279 Speaker 2: to be doing aed training like how to use an 864 00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,360 Speaker 2: actual defibrillator in an emergency situation. And so, as we know, 865 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 2: Damar had an event here earlier this month where he 866 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:42,359 Speaker 2: was handing out ads for facilities and people in need 867 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,839 Speaker 2: of those devices to have, you know, at their respective workplaces. 868 00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:51,120 Speaker 2: So he's making the rounds, that's for sure. What do 869 00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:52,880 Speaker 2: you think of his first pitch though, Manny, being a 870 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:53,840 Speaker 2: softball person. 871 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:55,839 Speaker 1: It was a little owen in the dirt there. He's 872 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,040 Speaker 1: got a he can do better. 873 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 4: He can do better. 874 00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 1: Get a little more left for the Yankees game. 875 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 2: Be ready for the Yankees game. Throw a strike down there. 876 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,000 Speaker 2: You're gonna hear it. You know, the Bronx cheers are 877 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,680 Speaker 2: gonna straighten it out a little bit tomorrow. Straighten that 878 00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,880 Speaker 2: out a little bit. But cool seeing him making the 879 00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 2: rounds for sure, I am out of here. Chris Trepasso 880 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,080 Speaker 2: will be in for me with Maddie Glab tomorrow, another 881 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 2: one hour edition at two pm, so be sure to 882 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 2: check those guys out tomorrow here on one bills Live. 883 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,080 Speaker 2: Enjoy the fourth everybody as well. I'll see you after 884 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: the holiday