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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to sixty one,

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Speaker 1: episode two of a production of My Heart Radio. This

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Speaker 1: is a podcast where we take a deep dive into

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Speaker 1: America's sharing consciousness. And it is, of course, Tuesday, November one.

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Speaker 1: Miles is wearing a wig and I'm not wearing a

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Speaker 1: wigles that hair transplant and I kept it under wraps

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Speaker 1: as I was wearing the cap so I could do

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Speaker 1: the big hits you all with the big reveal with

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Speaker 1: my beautiful blonde hair. It's an amazing look, Miles, you

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Speaker 1: know and just that what was it? Something that had

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Speaker 1: had to do with your Halloween costume last night? And

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Speaker 1: You're like, yes, yes, I am still rocking it. If

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Speaker 1: you could tell, I'm also wearing shirt that says ethnically ambiguous.

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Speaker 1: She gets your ethnically ambiguous murch okay, shout out the show.

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Speaker 1: But I realized when I wear the wig with it,

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Speaker 1: I love blond wig. Yeah, I look like Filipino Julian

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Speaker 1: Assans or something. What is November one? That's all same?

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Speaker 1: Is that what we were all so good? Catolico over there, Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: it is. It's the day that we celebrate all of them,

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Speaker 1: like every day you know I'm celebrating my favorite, you know,

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Speaker 1: top three saints, but you know the dame or all

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Speaker 1: of them, the deep cuts my top three three Sat

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Speaker 1: Frances of Assissy. Oh you love animals, John st John,

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Speaker 1: Remember you've got to be one of those. Hell yeah,

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Speaker 1: and baptized our our savior, Jesus Christ. Who else? Yes?

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Speaker 1: You got in? Xavier? I think is my what's it

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Speaker 1: called nax? You know, Frances Xavier's my my dad's confer

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Speaker 1: not confessional name. What's it called? Confederate name? Your Confederate name?

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Speaker 1: Frances Xavier Lee his favorite Confederate general. Anyway, those are

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Speaker 1: my top three, but today is the day for all

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Speaker 1: the Saints to party. My name is Jack O'Brien. Hold on,

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Speaker 1: there's more. There's more than that. There's so I just

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Speaker 1: want to point out there's so many fucking their National

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Speaker 1: Author's Day, Biologic Coordinator's Day, cal Zone Day, Cinnamon Day,

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Speaker 1: Deep fried clams Day, Family. Literally, dude, this is like

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Speaker 1: it's an inexhaustible list right now. That's they were all

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Speaker 1: waiting to. They were saving up because they didn't wanna

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Speaker 1: tangle with all hallow dive as we call it around here.

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Speaker 1: All Right, we'll shout up to authors. I guess yeah,

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Speaker 1: my name's Jack O'Brien a k. Dead gray toes O'Brien

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Speaker 1: a little leftover Treehouse of Horrors, spare nickname. Even if

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Speaker 1: my toes were dead and gray, they wouldn't. That would

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Speaker 1: not be the thing that people noticed about them. They

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Speaker 1: would instead be like, those are very long toes, uh,

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Speaker 1: that that person has fingers at the tip of their feet,

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Speaker 1: and then they would be like, oh yeah, and they're

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Speaker 1: clearly dead. But you know, anyways, I'm thrilled to be

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Speaker 1: joined as always by my co host, Mr Miles Gray.

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Speaker 1: Mr Miles is gray because when he walks by anybody,

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Speaker 1: they say, hey, hey you, you smell like blunts again

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Speaker 1: a k A. Grailor Swift. Because with this, our guest

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Speaker 1: was like, hey, are you Taylor Swift? And I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know what, fuck it? Sure that might work. Let

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Speaker 1: me see where this goes. Yeah, for sure, shout out.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of our guests, We're thrilled to be joining our

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Speaker 1: third s by a hilarious and talented comedy writer and

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Speaker 1: actor who wrote some of my favorite comedy scripts I've

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Speaker 1: ever read In his time at Cracked. You may remember

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Speaker 1: him as the handsome fellow from After Hours. He is

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Speaker 1: currently writing for American Dad exclamation Point. You can hear

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Speaker 1: him on the podcast he co hosts with Daniel O'Brien

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Speaker 1: Quick Question with Sarn and Daniel, and you might have

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Speaker 1: heard him on yesterday's episode of Trends. It's that's like

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Speaker 1: the first inro introduction, Jack, you ever given me. That

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Speaker 1: wasn't just I know, I forgot that. That used to

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Speaker 1: be my bit. I funked up. It's been too long, man,

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Speaker 1: you gave me a genuine one that was I know.

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Speaker 1: It's it's been too long and I'm actually excited to

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Speaker 1: absence makes the heart grow fonder of a sore and booie,

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Speaker 1: how are you aren't great? Well, so I got COVID

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Speaker 1: for a while, and so I wasn't great for a

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Speaker 1: little bit, and now I'm great because now I can

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Speaker 1: go wherever I want. What do you mean a COVID

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Speaker 1: for a while, like longer than you thought you should have. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I thought you had it like three months, you know,

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Speaker 1: and then I had like that recovery period. But you

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Speaker 1: still can't go anywhere. You can't be outside, you can't

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Speaker 1: like I was running ninety five around my house. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 1: eating all my meals in a little dark room and stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and nobody else in my family got it. That's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I know. It's great. Man, They're really good at avoiding you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's incredible. It was probably Jack, Come on, that's what

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Speaker 1: did it. Yeah, I've had a cold for like a week.

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Speaker 1: my voice sounds sounds like I have COVID, which is

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Speaker 1: not great because now everybody's just like, oh, you're you're

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Speaker 1: the sick sounding guy. We're gonna avoid the hell out

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Speaker 1: of you. Yeah. How are your avocados? How are my avocados? No?

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorring you have an avocado tree? Yeah? Like

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Speaker 1: this is this is how long? And it has been Jack,

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Speaker 1: I've moved. I moved right before the pandemic. Oh my god, anymore,

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Speaker 1: and so I don't have avocados anymore. Yeah. Sorry, I

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Speaker 1: just embarrassed myself. It also means we don't have rats,

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Speaker 1: which is great. Yeah, because you were fighting those off

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Speaker 1: with the avocados. You get one with the other, it's true.

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Speaker 1: Or you get you get to do the thing where

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Speaker 1: you get all these half nibbled avocados and fall down.

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Speaker 1: You're like, oh, it's rats. Anyone who has an avocado

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Speaker 1: to tree Now, I'm like, oh, you poor poor asshole,

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Speaker 1: because they are. We're so messy, they're so gross, Like

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Speaker 1: every time they fall you get it in your grass.

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Speaker 1: And and then you've got also you got squirrels come

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Speaker 1: all your furniture. Yeah. The squirrels, Like, I've realized that

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Speaker 1: just like kind of shoot him out. And now McGregor

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Speaker 1: and then not now they're like we went through three

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Speaker 1: They have no fear of me. I guess like once

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Speaker 1: the lawn with my kids when I come home from work, Hey, listen,

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Speaker 1: is your wife here? Great tight spiral kids? So proud

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Speaker 1: of you? Oh man. Yeah, the squirrel was squirrel was

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Speaker 1: chewing a hole in my pumpkin, like scooping out the seeds,

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Speaker 1: Yeah it's just me. Squirrels eat the faces off of

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Speaker 1: a lot of the jack O lanterns. Yeah, I live

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Speaker 1: terrified of the owls. We also have like redtail hawks

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Speaker 1: rooting for the like go hawk, Yeah, go please one

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Speaker 1: Do you know do you know the staircase? Do you know?

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Speaker 1: Of course? Yeah? Do you well? Are you a subscribe theory? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I love the owl theory. There are owl feathers in

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Speaker 1: been attacked by an owl, like not three days before. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: which is all to say. Actually, I would be worried

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Speaker 1: I'm not going out there. Very spooky, very appropriate for

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Speaker 1: but yes, hey look all Saints Days also spooky. And

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Speaker 1: again shout out Danna, Who's whose theory about the staircase

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Speaker 1: of Magnolia where it's just the guilt from the first

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Speaker 1: we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're

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Speaker 1: talking about today. We are talking about crowd crushes. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: talk about Twitter's blue check marks. That's on everyone's mind

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Speaker 1: blue check mark, so we can talk to him about

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Speaker 1: how he bought his. You know, once you when you're

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Speaker 1: Moment product because those are making a sweep through TikTok

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Speaker 1: and are probably full of ship all of that plenty more.

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Speaker 1: But first storm, we like to ask our guests, what

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Speaker 1: is something from your search history? So I found this

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Speaker 1: Morning finger painting. It's like, yeah, in my middle finger

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Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I'm forty forty years old now,

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Speaker 1: What is something you think is overrated? Sore? Jute rugs?

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Speaker 1: All right, well, then about this pillow instead, Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: anyone who's in real danger, might like just do a

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Speaker 1: small shove to like keep their balance or something, and

423
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,679
Speaker 1: that builds up this like wave of people that can

424
00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: have a multiplying effect, and it really just like comes

425
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: down to the people who are involved are in a

426
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,560
Speaker 1: no win situation when you get that many people into

427
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 1: that small space and that there's nothing that they can do.

428
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 1: But the the way we try to make sense of

429
00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 1: it because of like how you know, I've heard it

430
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Speaker 1: explained as like America's individualistic, so we can't like make

431
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Speaker 1: sense of anything that we can't blame on an individual person.

432
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: You could also like I've heard people say it's the

433
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: English language and the way that the English language is structured,

434
00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,879
Speaker 1: like it makes it so that we there has to

435
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: be someone doing an act there, Like we rarely just

436
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: talk about something happening. It's almost always like someone doing

437
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,800
Speaker 1: the thing. But it's very misleading and it also lets

438
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: the organizers off the hook, like the you know, when

439
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 1: people try to sue over this, it's almost always thrown

440
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 1: out because of this misconception that did you guys watch

441
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:37,679
Speaker 1: the Woodstock documentary? No I didn't. The yeah they and

442
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: if they talk about it's like, yeah, it's called train wreck,

443
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,560
Speaker 1: and they talk about, uh, they interview somebody who's on stage,

444
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 1: and like somebody people who are like perform at these

445
00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,919
Speaker 1: things they see the that like fluidity of the crowd

446
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,719
Speaker 1: and they talk about how when crowds start to get

447
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: like really rolled up, you'll just see like a group

448
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,919
Speaker 1: of people in the crowd, all of a sudden, the

449
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 1: whole group just moves to the right six ft like

450
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, and they don't know how it happened

451
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,879
Speaker 1: or anything, but from the stage you can see it happened,

452
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,199
Speaker 1: where it's just like everybody all of a sudden is

453
00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 1: over and they'll kind of get picked up essentially and push.

454
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 1: And sometimes I think people just get I don't know.

455
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:14,560
Speaker 1: I always picture it is like somebody getting stuck underneath

456
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: and then getting trampled to death. But I guess that's

457
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: not really it. I mean that that can happen too,

458
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,880
Speaker 1: But I think the real the real dangers when people

459
00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 1: get so compressed, you literally are just being squeezed out,

460
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:28,400
Speaker 1: like you're like you're just being compressed to the point

461
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,880
Speaker 1: you can't even breathe, and then you're just stock medieval

462
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,280
Speaker 1: war where like at in the middle of it, everybody

463
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 1: is just that you can't even do anything right when

464
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: you bring up the organizers to Jack because like the

465
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: cops were saying, and so they were like they admitted

466
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 1: that they were there, but they weren't there for crowd control,

467
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,200
Speaker 1: Like the hundred thirty some officers that were there were

468
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,520
Speaker 1: there just to look out for criminal activity. So they

469
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,800
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, I mean we actually had no we

470
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: have there's no real guide book like according to the

471
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 1: police force of like how to like what to do

472
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,800
Speaker 1: for crowd management, because the other thing they point to

473
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: or this is like a their excuse was also it's like, well,

474
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: there's also no clear organizer. But the fact is, you knew,

475
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 1: like this event has been growing over the last few years,

476
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 1: and this was like especially people were there because this

477
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: is like the first time there weren't any COVID restrictions

478
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: in place, so it was going to be turn up

479
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:25,359
Speaker 1: city like and they said that that so that metro station,

480
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: a hundred thirty thousand people like passed through there that night.

481
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: So a lot of people are like, you could do

482
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 1: so many things like have the have the like station

483
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,080
Speaker 1: of the that metro station closed so people have to

484
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: go to the next one and like walk through rather

485
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 1: than just like letting like hundreds of like a hundred

486
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,399
Speaker 1: thousand people just bleed out into this one very small

487
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,199
Speaker 1: area and just be like yeah, let's star our hands up.

488
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't know, let's see what happens. Yeah, I mean

489
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,120
Speaker 1: it needs to be viewed like there is a wave

490
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: of water like a people have said like it's similar

491
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,680
Speaker 1: to a tsunami, and like that's really how they need

492
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: to treat if Like, yeah, if they're are that many

493
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,879
Speaker 1: people going through a turnstile to an event in like

494
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: a small location, like that needs to be how it's

495
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: treated because yeah, like the the fluidity of it is

496
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 1: is kind of mind boggling. But yeah, people talk about

497
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 1: like having shoes sucked off their feet because of like

498
00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: just how much pressure and movement and yes, suddenly you're

499
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 1: like thirty feet to your right and like you haven't

500
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: done anything other than be like picked up off your feet.

501
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, it just needs to be a crowd control

502
00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: a like human engineering like issue and not treated as

503
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, something where the cops are just there to

504
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: prevent pickpocketers and like that. They're just needed to be

505
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: very clear rules in everybody's mind of like Okay, this

506
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: looks like it's going to be more than two to

507
00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 1: four people like per square meter. Let's like we need

508
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:52,160
Speaker 1: to just stop people from coming here, yea like set

509
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 1: up a blockhead or something. Yeah, I think about like

510
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: early when I was a kid and I would go

511
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: to punk shows or something, and I was like scared

512
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:02,439
Speaker 1: going in there. But then you'd be in the crowd

513
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: and like everyone would be like pushing each other and

514
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: you get knocked down and other people would just pick

515
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 1: you up, and I was like, Oh, it's safe. Like

516
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 1: everybody's that has this figured out like this somehow everyone

517
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: who goes to these already knows how this all works

518
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:15,480
Speaker 1: and that it's just not true like the minute that

519
00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 1: you hit capacity, no one's in control anymore. Right, Yeah? Right.

520
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: It was safe because there was space, you know, for

521
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:23,800
Speaker 1: there to be like a mosh pit, and then if

522
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: you needed to get out, you could get out too,

523
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 1: and it wasn't just like, uh, you know, just a

524
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: compact space for people to go. Jack, have you ever

525
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 1: been somewhere with your child in a situation like that.

526
00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: I was a thing yesterday, like to your point Miles

527
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:41,479
Speaker 1: about it being like, you know, post pandemic, there is

528
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 1: a malloween what's that acknoledging? I'm sorry I called it, Sam,

529
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: DEMI didn't you? Yeah, I was like speaking, you say,

530
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 1: because things don't just happen people to them, to us,

531
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: you check out my favorite tweet later. Sorry, yes, I

532
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,120
Speaker 1: And that's something that I need to be where you

533
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,640
Speaker 1: because we're not post pandemic. We are post a lot

534
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: of the things that were helping us fight the pandemic

535
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: and like post shutdowns. But we we went to a

536
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: like fair in our neighborhood that was didn't happen for

537
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:15,720
Speaker 1: the last two years, and it was just absolutely like

538
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: so jam packed in like all these people in a

539
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: small setting, like everybody was miserable. Like we were walking

540
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: up and like parents were like it's bad, They're like

541
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,200
Speaker 1: good luck, and I was like, uh, they're they're just

542
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: being fun and it was scary. Like we we left

543
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: after like five minutes because yeah, I think just a

544
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: lot of people showing up at the same place and

545
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: not a lot of like there's just not this idea

546
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: that Okay, one person is in charge and if it

547
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 1: hits this number, you're done, like you everybody has to

548
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: like go home or like you just need to start

549
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: turning people away. But we we went to when my

550
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 1: son was young enough that he was in a stroller,

551
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: we went to the women's march and we were like

552
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 1: out in the street corner of this intersection basically where

553
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: it just people stretched swell from each side and it

554
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,200
Speaker 1: just sort of like pushed into the middle and it

555
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:07,800
Speaker 1: became packed enough that people couldn't see the stroller download

556
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 1: but everyone who's like looking for an empty space, all

557
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: they see is like this empty space, like everybody's trying

558
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: to move to that space, and then a stroller there,

559
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: So it's just like denser and denser. And then at

560
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: a certain point that we're all gonna march now. And

561
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: I was like, that's a bad idea, like we should

562
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 1: not even like let's just all go our separate ways,

563
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 1: Like this is bad. And I it was a situation

564
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: I was helpless in and I was like I shouldn't

565
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: have brought him here, Like this is a stake. Yeah,

566
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: that's really scary. Yeah, it just sounds like we have

567
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: to move past like the idea of like when there's

568
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: a lot of people there, it's not like and then

569
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: some joker is gonna trigger a stampede. It's that when

570
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: there are so many people there, it has to be

571
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 1: like like a second nature. They say, well, we have

572
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,920
Speaker 1: to figure out how to like alleviate pressure from certain

573
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: points so we don't have a crush because we know

574
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: this tiny district or wherever this place is going to be,

575
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: that you figure out what to do for people's safety,

576
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 1: and like, yeah, in the you know, I think in

577
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: the cases of like astral World and Woodstock, it was

578
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,280
Speaker 1: a lot of that stuff was clearly because of cost cutting,

579
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: just being like we don't want to pay that much

580
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 1: for security. And then this one seems like total just

581
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 1: absolute lack of preparation from like the municipality to like

582
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: understand what it means to have that many people in

583
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 1: the space and then you know, having a tragedy like

584
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 1: that right after. Yeah, and even going to the explanation

585
00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: of the gas attack is like the because that's one

586
00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: of the things we can conceive of as like an

587
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: invisible killer. But like like like world, someone was injecting

588
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: people and they were going down in the crowd. It's

589
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 1: like no people were suffocating or going to cardiac arrest

590
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: because of therush. Yeah, all right, let's talk Twitter. Ellen

591
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: has taken over and apparently once users with blue check

592
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: marks to pay around twenty dollars a month to keep

593
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 1: their verification status lest they be cast aside to the

594
00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 1: faceless masses with US normies. The blue checks will allegedly

595
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: have ninety days to subscribe, and the Twitter employees have

596
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 1: until November seven to figure this out or they will

597
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: be fired. According to Elon Musk, he seems like a

598
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: cool boss, great leader, great leader, great leader, great genius, genius, genius. Yeah.

599
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 1: I guess they have a thing called Twitter Blue, which

600
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 1: is like an optional four ninete a month subscription that

601
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: unlocks additional features, and they're just going to transition that

602
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: into a more expensive subscription. I'm trying to think what

603
00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 1: you possibly would pay for. What is it? What does

604
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: Twitter blue have delete or like I don't know if

605
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: it has Yeah, I don't. I don't even know to

606
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 1: the point where you're like I can't even write exactly

607
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,560
Speaker 1: like do I need to have Twitter Blue? I don't

608
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: think so. But I think it's just a way to

609
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: be like it's premium, and then if you're just addicted

610
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,200
Speaker 1: to that word, you're like, yeah, yeah, I got and

611
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 1: I got the premium Twitter paramout at all. But I

612
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: think I think the big thing too is just also

613
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,720
Speaker 1: saying it's like, oh right, this because I think a

614
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: lot of people like this guy doesn't really want Twitter,

615
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like he was really trying

616
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: to avoid it, and now it's like, okay, well now

617
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: you gotta have this thing be a money making thing,

618
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: and like first step is all right, fire everybody and

619
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:10,360
Speaker 1: then make blue checkmark twenty bucks a month. Yeah, does

620
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,200
Speaker 1: that save my money? You can turn a profit like that,

621
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,880
Speaker 1: And it's so Twitter verification was supposed to be about

622
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: security and rooting out fraud. It was introduced in two

623
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 1: thousand nine and it came after Tony Larusa sued the

624
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 1: company after a Tony Larusa impersonator account made derogatory jokes

625
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: about him, and I think they got that scared them.

626
00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 1: But so Swaring, you do have a blue check mark,

627
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: and I did notice that, like around the time that

628
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 1: you got the blue checkmark, your appearance totally changed and

629
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: you just took over. I'd always assumed you just took

630
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: over somebody else's account, and once they had the blue

631
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 1: check mark, it was you were just a new sar

632
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: and booie. Right. Yeah, I mean I felt like a

633
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: new man as soon as I got it. It's like

634
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 1: it my world changed and things opened up for me.

635
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: I'll give you a peek in the back door here, Jack,

636
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 1: because I mean obviously then they didn't approve your check mark. Uh,

637
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 1: it didn't approve much because I have been since you

638
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: got your You've applied so many times. So it's the

639
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 1: things that are different are especially if you're a writer,

640
00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 1: is that other writers like immediately will respond to you,

641
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: like other blue check other people who are they It's

642
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: like this legitimacy that you have where they're like, oh,

643
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:33,839
Speaker 1: like if you if you write something to somebody, your

644
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: reply then they're like, okay, I'll play this game, whereas

645
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: before like you just ignore everybody. And that was nice,

646
00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: but then it also it made it so that I

647
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,480
Speaker 1: couldn't fight with anybody, Like it's really dangerous to be

648
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: like really get into it with somebody, because you're never

649
00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: the good guy in that situation. In any circumstance, it's

650
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: like if you don't agree with somebody, or you're like

651
00:34:55,640 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 1: you're going at it with somebody, eventually inevitably somebody you no,

652
00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 1: We'll jump and be like, hey man, that that person's

653
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:06,759
Speaker 1: got a hundred and fifty followers out verified, Like why

654
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,240
Speaker 1: did you do a deep dive into their YouTube channel

655
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 1: that you found of their just totally tore it apart, dude,

656
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: we get, but that is why I'm able to just

657
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 1: talk about you flagrantly and you won't say anything back

658
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,160
Speaker 1: to me. I will never say a thing because I

659
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,680
Speaker 1: have to pretend I don't know who you are. I

660
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: don't remember you because and you won't admit to knowing

661
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: me anywhere except this podcast, which is give me a

662
00:35:29,640 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 1: little unnerving. It would be a little frustrating, and it

663
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: does drive my mania to get my blue check mark approved.

664
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 1: But I do like that even like for you start,

665
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: it does feed the idea of like, well, I'm a

666
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: blue check and how does that look as I a

667
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,920
Speaker 1: blue check kicking dirt on the downtroden check. Yeah, it's

668
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: sounds like you've been there before. Co star Bellies speech man.

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00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: Uh I. We'll find though that there are people who

670
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: like Dan O'Brien is a good friend of mine, dance

671
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 1: tweets at me. I never see it, like for whatever reason,

672
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: they're like twitters like this is the riff raff, Like

673
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,080
Speaker 1: he these people who are not like they just hide

674
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 1: some ship that you don't blue check mark. He insists on. Well,

675
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: you know, he's like, I'm starting to think it's our

676
00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: last name. This is this is bullshit? Wow? Interesting? Interesting? Famous? Yeah,

677
00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 1: most uh, like mccallahan, anything that's like slightly irish, they're like,

678
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: don't do it, don't do it. Oh that's amazing. Yeah,

679
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: I mean so obviously, like the security measure part of

680
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: it melted away, like the Tony Luisa thing, like he

681
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: had to throw his case out because the account that

682
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: he was like they're trying to steal my identity was

683
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: like named Tony Larusa. Like what's it called I'm having

684
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,240
Speaker 1: like parody? Yeah, it was called Tony Luisa parody account

685
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: or like it said that on the bio. So it

686
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,920
Speaker 1: was just an understanding Internet basically, but yeah, became stad

687
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 1: it became a thing where the blue checks wouldn't even

688
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:07,919
Speaker 1: respond to us. And also it's like Chester Cheetah has

689
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 1: a blue check mark, right, so like I I'm not

690
00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: sure who was trying to steal Chester Cheetah's account, or

691
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 1: maybe they were. I don't know that that actually makes

692
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 1: more sense. I mean when you look at that though, too,

693
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: like because you're always like, wait, so how come like

694
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: these Peabody winning journalists have blue checks and then a

695
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: hot potato chip also has one, And then you're like

696
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,799
Speaker 1: all right, you can like you basically can buy your

697
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: way there too. Yeah, there's also these have already been

698
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 1: for sale. Twitter themselves of unofficially sold verified accounts to

699
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 1: non celebrities if they just spend fifteen thousand dollars over

700
00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: three months on advertising on Twitter, which I think is

701
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: a smaller amount of people than even think since Twitter

702
00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 1: ads are bad. Yeah, but yeah, like you're basically giving

703
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: them fifteen grand for enough, right, Well, I you don't

704
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: behave like in a hostile manner towards ads you see

705
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: on Twitter, I'm like, get the full Like whenever I

706
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: see him, I'm like, dude, I wouldn't even pretend to

707
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,720
Speaker 1: look at that ship. But also, wow, this is really

708
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: what Alex Mack, that player person played Alex Mac looks like.

709
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: Now I'll always hit those three buttons, those little three

710
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: dots at the top and be like hide. Why. I

711
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 1: don't know, I just don't like ads. Get it out

712
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 1: of here. Why why? Yeah. They also got in trouble

713
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: when they verified one of the Charlottesville Nazis, so that's

714
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 1: but they just like don't have It's the same social

715
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: media problem where they're too vast to police and the

716
00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: it just becomes a free for all, and like there's

717
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: no way for them to do a consistent policy without

718
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: like hiring so many people that the site then becomes

719
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: not profitable. So it's just I'm fine with them taking

720
00:39:02,360 --> 00:39:06,040
Speaker 1: away the blue checks from everybody, making it like egalitarian

721
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,239
Speaker 1: because nobody and what that's essentially what they're doing because

722
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: nobody's gonna buy a twenty dollars people are saying. And

723
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: if they do buy a twenty dollar a month, check

724
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: mark like that fun that person, because then you're gonna

725
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: looks like a sign that you're the worst because before

726
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: you could you could have a blue check be like, oh,

727
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,319
Speaker 1: I don't know, like they said, they offered it to me,

728
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: you know, like back in the day they're like yeah,

729
00:39:27,160 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 1: like they are, like my manager figured it out. But

730
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 1: now like when you have it, you're like, oh, so

731
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,440
Speaker 1: you're paying twenty bucks for that. Yeah, desperation is just

732
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,680
Speaker 1: breaking from it. And so and people know too, are

733
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 1: smart enough on Twitter to know that if you look

734
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 1: at somebody's account, you look at how many followers they

735
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,319
Speaker 1: have versus how many they follow and that's like a

736
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,720
Speaker 1: good indication of whether this person is the right person,

737
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 1: like the person you're looking for. If there is any

738
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 1: ever question about whether this is like a parody account. Yeah,

739
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: you just look at like, Okay, how many people are

740
00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: they falling? How people are following? Right? I see that

741
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: that last number is higher than the first number. That's

742
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: a good sign. I think the funked up part about

743
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: all of this is that, like so many people are

744
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: not critical enough in their analysis that looking at anything

745
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: on the Internet that they're just gonna assume blue check

746
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,240
Speaker 1: equals truth, and there's gonna be a ton of bullshit

747
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 1: out there from these blue checks that most of the

748
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: time he'd be like, what the how the fund did

749
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:27,360
Speaker 1: this person get verified from that ep epic Times or whatever?

750
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 1: Like what Yeah, Like it's gonna be all like just

751
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: just a ton of like misinformation fast. I mean that's why,

752
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 1: like everyone's just looking at this now and be like wow, okay,

753
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: like the use of racal slurs has exploded exponentially, and

754
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,879
Speaker 1: he's spreading like fucking like a least fucked up homophobic

755
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:47,839
Speaker 1: conspiracy theories and then deleting him. He's like, is it

756
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: possible the blue check story is meant to detract from that,

757
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:55,320
Speaker 1: which is like a much bigger story, which is that yeah,

758
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,959
Speaker 1: Twitter is way worse that he's also doing some really

759
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 1: terrible He's tweeting some really terrible things about like Nancy

760
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: Pelosi and ship like that. On the right, I think

761
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: you just you know that everyone's gonna talk about the

762
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: blue check thing because the blue checks are going to

763
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,680
Speaker 1: influence everybody else on Twitter, and that's all they want

764
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,879
Speaker 1: to talk about, right But the one thing, I feel

765
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,360
Speaker 1: like all of the most news outlets have been pretty

766
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: consistent with some version of like damn Elon's first week

767
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,080
Speaker 1: so fucking real funk up, or some version of that,

768
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: maybe not so aggressive, but pointing out it's like he's

769
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: like fired everyone as it stands right now, is like

770
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,319
Speaker 1: just to announce that he fired the entire board and

771
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: now it's just him right now as he figures out

772
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: what to do with it. So I think most things

773
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 1: are pointing to like he's not sure what to do

774
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,719
Speaker 1: with it, and he's making things so much fucking worse

775
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 1: right now. But what I hey, Jack Dorsey's working on

776
00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: his own ship now, blue Sky, whatever the funk it's called.

777
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 1: So this guy, whatever, I'm canceling my application for the

778
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:52,799
Speaker 1: blue check thing. Let me just because you guys made

779
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 1: some good points, it'll be it'll just be like Facebook.

780
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,800
Speaker 1: I think like Facebook was a place where everybody left

781
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 1: and the people who didn't leave thought that everyone and like,

782
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 1: everyone's still there. Everyone just agrees with me all of

783
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: a sudden, and then that became this weird chamber and

784
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 1: you know, and what's gonna happen is there's gonna be

785
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: like millennial grandpas. They're like, dude, my fucking dad's still

786
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: on Twitter. And no, they're like, what in the in

787
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: the year, Yes, dude gets all those fucking news on there.

788
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:26,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's gonna be mute. Yeah, because I

789
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 1: don't know, I'm gonna give up these numbers. I'm like,

790
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: you're just hating the son because you ain't got these followers.

791
00:42:32,280 --> 00:42:35,080
Speaker 1: It's the oldest social network I still use. And it's

792
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 1: like it's I'm gonna do. I'm gonna keep doing jokes man,

793
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:42,239
Speaker 1: that's all it's gonna be forever. Alright, let's take a

794
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 1: quick break, we'll come back, we'll talk pheromones, and we're back,

795
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 1: and from one social media network that you can no

796
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: longer trust to one that I think is pretty much

797
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: in at this point, embraced TikTok so right now, TikTok

798
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: in addition to things where they're like if you see

799
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 1: a bag under your car, that means you've been targeted

800
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: for trafficking. TikTok is full of users praying the benefit

801
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: praising the benefits of fragrances laced with pheromones. As of

802
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:28,320
Speaker 1: this month, the hashtag pheromone perfume has more than fifty

803
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: four million views and the claims like they basically claim

804
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: like pheromones really work. There's one person who claims that

805
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 1: like their husbands tricked them with pheromoneh sh like that's

806
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,760
Speaker 1: the only way, that's the only reason they're married, because

807
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: he was wearing Please Her. I think I think it's

808
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: supposed to be pleasure, a play on that it's p

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00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: L E A S and then all caps H E

810
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: R cologne while they were dating. But it's just a

811
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,560
Speaker 1: terrible addic oil ship. But this has been a thing

812
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,919
Speaker 1: people have, like I thought was real for a long time.

813
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: But this is this is what the joke sex panther

814
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: cologne from Anchorman is based off. You know, I mean,

815
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 1: the same dated ass thinking it's like, no, man, there's

816
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 1: something in this shift I spray on me that allows

817
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 1: a woman to lower their standards rapidly suddenly like no.

818
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:24,840
Speaker 1: But again, I think it's like our idea that of

819
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,719
Speaker 1: like you hear some science adjacent thing and you're like,

820
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:33,359
Speaker 1: there it is. That's what it was. We're all just robots. Yeah,

821
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we rewrote about on Cracked at

822
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: one point about people in relationships where a woman when

823
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: she met her husband was on the pill already she

824
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: had been taking for a long time, and then when

825
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,760
Speaker 1: she got off of it, she was like, I don't

826
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,200
Speaker 1: like the smell of my husband anymore. Where that kind

827
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,880
Speaker 1: of thing happens where suddenly whatever you whatever odor as

828
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: a person you were giving off was at one point

829
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,560
Speaker 1: pleasing to somebody, and then their chemistry changes and you're

830
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: like no, no more. Done. Yeah, there's a lot of these,

831
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: like human behavior studies that suggest pheromones are a real thing.

832
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 1: That there's like the one where they smell the underarms

833
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 1: of like T shirts worn by and then yeah, it's

834
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: like a blind test and then they like meet the

835
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: people and the or they see a picture of the

836
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: people and the people they picked when they were just smelling,

837
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: and the people they picked based on photographs like matched

838
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,480
Speaker 1: up in some weird I don't know, like that those

839
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: soft sciences studies, Like I, I've become increasingly skeptical of

840
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 1: of them. I think I edited that article you're talking

841
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 1: about SARN and I I don't think I would be

842
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:46,799
Speaker 1: as on board with some of the claims in that

843
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,399
Speaker 1: article as as I was at the time, just because

844
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,920
Speaker 1: it seems like there's you can really like fudge a

845
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 1: lot of it. But the main argument against pheromones is

846
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,319
Speaker 1: not that like there's no way that pheromones exist in

847
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: human population. There's definitely like something going on with smell

848
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: and like our reaction to smell. Why in like contextual things,

849
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:13,280
Speaker 1: it's like one of the best senses at triggering memories

850
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:16,239
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But this is to say that

851
00:46:16,280 --> 00:46:20,600
Speaker 1: nobody has isolated either how pheromones work or like what

852
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: the pheromone is that works every time on everyone. Yeah,

853
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:27,480
Speaker 1: you can't synthesize something like that, like this is the

854
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: one that it's the golden key, This is like this

855
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: is the one for everyone. Yeah right, this is the

856
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:36,160
Speaker 1: msg of of sense. Yeah, exactly that. But that's what

857
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: people you know, that's the profitable thing. So that's the

858
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:43,080
Speaker 1: version it's going to get spun out. But company called

859
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 1: Rocks wanted to patent the chemicals two words, I'm not

860
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna try to pronounce and use it in perfumean cologne,

861
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: and a study was published by two University of Utah

862
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: psychiatrists about the chemicals. They were on the board of

863
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 1: the company trying to make money off of this. It

864
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: turns out love that love the disingenuous medical study too.

865
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm invested in that thing. I just took

866
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: never mind, never mind, never mind. So disheartening to like

867
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 1: know how often that happens, to just know, like if

868
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: you dig into any study, you're like, well, who paid

869
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,800
Speaker 1: for the study? Because they don't just have money? Oh cool,

870
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: it's the people who wanted to be one very specific outcome,

871
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: and it was that like the autism vaccine one where

872
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: the guy basically was developing his own vaccine and was

873
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: just trying to throw dirt on the other one and

874
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: be like and that's why you want mine, and it's

875
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: like if you fuck you, just okay. Yeah, there's just

876
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,680
Speaker 1: no evidence, no scientific evidence that wasn't produced by people

877
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: trying to make money that there's no evidence that pheromones

878
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 1: are secreted by all men and women. Yeah, which would

879
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: be the first requirement for a true pheomone. I guess

880
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: are getting choked up talking about that. I will. So

881
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 1: there was a while ago where I got really into

882
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:01,959
Speaker 1: vitamins where was like, im fu, I'm the healthiest person

883
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,319
Speaker 1: in the planet. I'm invincible. I'm taking everything right. And

884
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 1: I started taking fish oil and my wife at one

885
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: point was like it just smelled different. And I was like,

886
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: do I smell like fish and She's like, no, it's

887
00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: just different. Like there was something. I was like, it

888
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:20,040
Speaker 1: was changing something in my chemistry to in the wrong direction,

889
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,239
Speaker 1: where she was like, I don't know what it is.

890
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: I just don't like it. You smell different and stop it. Yeah.

891
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: It was like please don't, yeah, please, maybe stopped taking

892
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: it and it bounced back and came shining through. When

893
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: I stopped taking something was like somehow creeping into my

894
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: pores from it and it was grossing her out and

895
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: I couldn't smell it, but she could so much to

896
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: like TikTok videos just feel like that first like semester

897
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 1: break of your freshman New York college kids come back

898
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: from college and like, dude, you know what I fucking

899
00:48:56,719 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: learned in my sociology class and you're like fuck, you know,

900
00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:05,000
Speaker 1: like so many videos Like here's a half fact that

901
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: I'm going to just say really confidently, like pheromones ever

902
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: fucking heard of them? And you're like, Jesus, okay, what

903
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:14,720
Speaker 1: do you hear because we've been saying this for years

904
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: and like there's so many things like that, like so

905
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: much content like that or whether it's like and this

906
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:22,399
Speaker 1: is how you self diagnose for this entire list of

907
00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,840
Speaker 1: like mental like the mental illnesses and things like that.

908
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,000
Speaker 1: You're like, this is not how to do any of this,

909
00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:31,440
Speaker 1: but yeah that let's always has big freshman year college

910
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: energy from these like big, yeah, you learned just enough

911
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: to be dangerous? Yeah, world, Yeah yeah. You go on

912
00:49:39,040 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: a date and you're like trying to explain like why

913
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's how hard it is for women these days,

914
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: type like I get it, man, we live in a patriarchy. Patriarchy. Yeah,

915
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 1: it's all smeared. We live in a pata what ship

916
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 1: Just I'm sweating through the date? Uh a base my turkey,

917
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,759
Speaker 1: Let me get my backpack. My notes are there, by

918
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 1: the way. The pleasure here pheromone cocktail is made of

919
00:50:11,000 --> 00:50:15,720
Speaker 1: the same chemicals as those Utah researchers did their research

920
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: on so great, so they're back for another bite of

921
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 1: that apple. Yeah, it's just it's exactly what you said

922
00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 1: college ship from the nineties, right right right, It's it's

923
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 1: all very It feels like a cousin of aphrodisiacs too,

924
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:32,359
Speaker 1: where like people every once in a while you get

925
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: the researchers for all the people like no man oysters

926
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 1: make everyone want to fuck like yeah, yeah, oh they

927
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: do that texture. It's like, wait, it's the texture. There's

928
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,319
Speaker 1: something in it that you're saying is an aphrodis there

929
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: I who could say, no, it is usually your cousin.

930
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,600
Speaker 1: You mentioned cousin. It is usually your cousin making those claims. Yeah, Becca,

931
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:54,760
Speaker 1: and the Chad was saying, it does feel very similar

932
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: to when TikTok was talking about vabbing, which was about

933
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: dabbing like vaginal secretions on your pulse, like to be

934
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: like just to set off my natural Yes, anyway, I

935
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 1: don't listen to TikTok ever. Wow, wait a second, I

936
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: gotta get on this now. That's horrifying. Yeah. I mean

937
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:18,879
Speaker 1: what's also interesting right too, is like they're they're all

938
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: these like really short fixes to the like the problem

939
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 1: that a lot of our like information age is exacerbating,

940
00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,759
Speaker 1: which is our lack of human connection. So like now

941
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,200
Speaker 1: we're going like all in on weird ship, Like hey,

942
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,759
Speaker 1: just you just just start vabbing. You just gotta get

943
00:51:32,760 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: this pheromone stuff and then you can start like connecting

944
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 1: to people again. It's like, I don't know, maybe like this,

945
00:51:38,239 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 1: maybe we need to talk about how isolated we're starting

946
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 1: to become, how lonely we're starting to become. Because all

947
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: we're talking about like the most hair brained schemes on

948
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: how to just like connect with other connect to our humanity. Yeah,

949
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:52,319
Speaker 1: it's like a life hack approach to other humans where

950
00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: it's just merely dab this on your like pick up

951
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:59,840
Speaker 1: artistry too, and it's like, broe, this is not the

952
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: It's okay, yeah, sure do that. See what See where

953
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:06,680
Speaker 1: that road leads you? Watch my speed run of human

954
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: Interactions where I go through and have a positive interaction

955
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: with nine people. Oh man, I met a woman who

956
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 1: this is horrifying. So I met a woman at a

957
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 1: work event and she was she like let me into

958
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: her system when she goes to network, when she goes

959
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:24,960
Speaker 1: around talks to people who are also in the industry.

960
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,840
Speaker 1: Letsto your system. She has a system. She goes around

961
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 1: so and when she's at parties, uh pretty where she

962
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,920
Speaker 1: feels like a network. She uh gives a credit or

963
00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:38,279
Speaker 1: or takes a credit. And that means that like she's

964
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 1: either getting something from somebody, but she she's talking to

965
00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 1: them like they're giving her something. It's information that she's

966
00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: interested in, or it's like they have a job that

967
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: she's interested in, like that that relationship is going to

968
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,840
Speaker 1: help her build towards whatever job. Yeah, and then she

969
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,239
Speaker 1: also or if she's in an interaction like that, she's

970
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 1: also offering something that she's giving something. And it's such

971
00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: a weird way of looking at human communication and just

972
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: being at a party and talking to people. She's networking.

973
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 1: We are networking. And she's describing it as like this

974
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: great breakthrough that she had where she's like, this is

975
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: what I do, like this, I give and I get,

976
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 1: I take a credit, give a credit. And I'm like,

977
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: I I don't think we should keep talking? All right?

978
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 1: What do you give me? What do you give me? What?

979
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:31,359
Speaker 1: This is a great event, isn't it? No? Me? Yeah?

980
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 1: I mean I think it is probably for people who

981
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:37,279
Speaker 1: are like understand like they read thing like networking is

982
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:40,640
Speaker 1: so important, you know, and like when the people who

983
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 1: just do it naturally just I think naturally just curious

984
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: people and they're naturally just going to ask people and

985
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 1: just have conversations. And yeah, I think for some people,

986
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:51,840
Speaker 1: it's like I really need a very structured way to

987
00:53:51,880 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 1: sort of understand how to do this because I think

988
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 1: some people just aren't. That reminds me like when I

989
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:58,240
Speaker 1: when I had to sell cars. It's terrible it's selling

990
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,840
Speaker 1: cars because I don't have it in me to like

991
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,359
Speaker 1: convinced somebody to like do some ship that I want

992
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,600
Speaker 1: them to do. Like in that sense, we're like, yo,

993
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,520
Speaker 1: you really want this ram man with the new Hemion

994
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: dude and Commins Turbo diesel. You fucking love this dude,

995
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,600
Speaker 1: you got a boat. Like I'm just not not like

996
00:54:11,640 --> 00:54:14,480
Speaker 1: a natural salesperson like that to the point where like

997
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: I was like this sales people like just try and

998
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:19,279
Speaker 1: hit these like fucking benchmarks, man, like when you're you're

999
00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: walking through it, I mean a professional setting. I feel

1000
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 1: like I'll allow it more because that is like a

1001
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: little bit more transactional. What if it if it's like

1002
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: just like meeting people and like how you're interacting with

1003
00:54:32,560 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: people that yeah, yeah, a little dark, I can see that.

1004
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 1: But I mean I've been to events where there's networking

1005
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 1: happening and everyone sort of agreed that, like, this is

1006
00:54:40,239 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 1: gonna be weird and awkward, but it doesn't have to

1007
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: be that weird. Everyone is rough. So what do you do? Immediately,

1008
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 1: even for you asking name right, No, what do you do?

1009
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:56,200
Speaker 1: I asked? First? You're like, can we talk about something else?

1010
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: And they're like no, what then what do you do? Right?

1011
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: By the way, the movie Black Widow, one of the

1012
00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,320
Speaker 1: villains like couldn't be killed by Scarlett Joe Hanson because

1013
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: he had a pheromone lock on her meaning that when

1014
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: he's in smelling rain, she can't pull the trigger. So, yes,

1015
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: it seems like it'd be easy to get around shield

1016
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,680
Speaker 1: it is. It is, I think a scientific mystery because

1017
00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: we have like the parts of our body that would

1018
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: be used for pheromone reception. We've just never found evidence

1019
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: that humans use them or like secrete them, and so

1020
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,879
Speaker 1: it it is a scientific mystery. And the way we

1021
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:40,200
Speaker 1: deal with scientific mysteries is by being like, all right,

1022
00:55:40,239 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 1: we'll use it as a villain thing to like the internet.

1023
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: The Internet is ultron Yeah, pheromones. Pheromones are used to

1024
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:56,840
Speaker 1: as a body shield essentially as always truly a pleasure

1025
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 1: having you. Where can people find you? Follow you all

1026
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: that good stuff. You can find me on Twitter at

1027
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: sore and Underscore Ltd. And you can follow our podcast.

1028
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,759
Speaker 1: Listen to our podcast. Uh, it's called Quick Question with

1029
00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,400
Speaker 1: Soren and Daniel. In fact, you know what, just stop

1030
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,879
Speaker 1: listening to this right now, Go find it, Go put

1031
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: that one on. It's we've been called the voices of

1032
00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: our generation. You'd really enjoy it. I think, yeah, I

1033
00:56:20,239 --> 00:56:22,640
Speaker 1: think you would, But don't stop listening to this podcast.

1034
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:24,840
Speaker 1: I'm really impressed that that you've kept your wig on

1035
00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:31,680
Speaker 1: this entire not a wig, not a fucking wig. And

1036
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: is there a tweet or some of the work of

1037
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:37,319
Speaker 1: social media you've been enjoying? Yeah, so this is it

1038
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,480
Speaker 1: turns out it's a little older than I had thought.

1039
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 1: But it's Uh, you guys knew who Aerial Dumas is.

1040
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,399
Speaker 1: She recently went through and started like collecting all these

1041
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 1: tweets that she thought were great. Yeah, and do you know, uh,

1042
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,719
Speaker 1: Colin Crawford, he used to write for the onion and

1043
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: he's worked on modoc. He's kind one that she really

1044
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,319
Speaker 1: made me laugh out loud that says me and my

1045
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: friends would have LDT with hammers. I can tell you

1046
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 1: that much. Yeah, I had that one too. Yeah, like

1047
00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: we When I look at what I was like at

1048
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: that age, I was. I was no Elliott. I can

1049
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: tell you that much. I would not have been standing

1050
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:19,960
Speaker 1: up to my older relatives being like stop, be nice

1051
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 1: to everything. Virtue was not my my chief characteristic when

1052
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: I was Yeah, I had to build the miles. Where

1053
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 1: can people find you? What is the tweet you've been enjoying?

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Speaker 1: I find me on Twitter and Instagram at Miles of Gray.

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Speaker 1: Also on the basketball podcast Miles and Jack got Mad

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Speaker 1: boost these new episode coming out Thursday. And then also

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Speaker 1: Sophia Alexander and I talked ninety day Fiance on the

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Speaker 1: other show four twenty Day Fiance. Uh. Some tweets that

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Speaker 1: I like. First one is from Zach Fox at Zach

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Speaker 1: Fox tweeted nobody's gonna pay to be verified, but I

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Speaker 1: would definitely pay to have a dual feature where petty

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Speaker 1: arguments get solved in a public roast, where we can

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Speaker 1: vote on who won and loser gets a ship deleted permanently.

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Speaker 1: I like that. Uh. And then another one Sydney Battle.

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Speaker 1: At Sydney Battle tweet at the Animal sanc check and

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Speaker 1: the Animal Sanctuary account I followed. Just made a post

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Speaker 1: about how one of the elephants had a quote I

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Speaker 1: didn't know I was pregnant type delivery that was so

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Speaker 1: shocking that when the baby just dropped out onto the ground,

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Speaker 1: the other elephants ran away screaming, I can already see it.

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Speaker 1: That's amazing. Hopefully someone got that on video for the

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Speaker 1: sake of the Internet. Let's see. You can find me

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien's tweets. I've been enjoying.

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Speaker 1: Mike Scolland's tweeted, if Freddy Krueger can really enter dreams,

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Speaker 1: he must be very sick of watching me. Dunk And

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Speaker 1: and Henrik Blick tweeted I don't usually brag on here,

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Speaker 1: but I just got an email saying I have and

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Speaker 1: I quote an outstanding medical bill. You can find us

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at day guys. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist

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Speaker 1: on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website,

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Speaker 1: Daily zeit geist dot com, where we post our episodes

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Speaker 1: and our footnotes. We we link off to the information

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Speaker 1: that we talked about in today's episode, as well as

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Speaker 1: the song that we think you might enjoy. Myles, what

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Speaker 1: song do we think people might enjoy? Oh man, I've

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Speaker 1: been just I've been annoying her majesty by just yelling

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Speaker 1: the chorus to the Little Yaddi song poll Poland over

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Speaker 1: and over. So if you want to hear what's just

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Speaker 1: become like like the meme chorus of the year in

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Speaker 1: a rap song, check out Little Yaddi's new track Poland

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Speaker 1: Do what Poland? All Right? Anyway, alright, sure, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for that blast out out your car. Well,

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Speaker 1: we will link off to that in the footnotes. The

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Speaker 1: Daily Zeke is the production of I Heart Radio for

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Speaker 1: That is going to do it for us this morning,

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Speaker 1: back this afternoon to tell you what it's trending. We

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Speaker 1: will talk to you all that fight by five mm