WEBVTT - Draft Show: Back With Brugler 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:14.360 This is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your 0:00:14.480 --> 0:00:18.239 war room for incenter news and draft analysis from deep 0:00:18.280 --> 0:00:22.239 within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the Star in Fresco, 0:00:22.480 --> 0:00:32.559 Dallas Cowboys and now your host, Kyle Yeoman's. Today is Wednesday, 0:00:32.640 --> 0:00:36.720 February eighth, twenty twenty three. We are now just seventy 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:41.000 nine days away from the NFL Draft in Kansas City. 0:00:41.080 --> 0:00:43.840 The Senior Bowl is now in the rearview mirror. Next 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:48.000 up the NFL Combine in Indianapolis, and next up for us, 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.760 we've got a week full of shows. We are back 0:00:50.840 --> 0:00:54.760 because the isis subsided as well in Texas, so we're 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:57.560 glad to be back here on the Draft Show, presented 0:00:57.600 --> 0:01:01.200 by Miller Lite. As always, I Usue Morrison. We do 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:05.080 not have Brian brought us nor Bobby Belt today Sad Day, 0:01:05.240 --> 0:01:08.000 because they're both having some fun out at the super 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:11.000 Bowl in Glendale, Arizona, but we will have them on 0:01:11.440 --> 0:01:16.120 tomorrow instead of Brian and Bobby. We are happy and 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.800 delighted to welcome back to the show one of the 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:23.399 Draft Show originals, mister Dane Brugler from the Athletic Dane. 0:01:23.440 --> 0:01:27.160 How's it going, my friend welcome back. That's not the same. No, 0:01:27.360 --> 0:01:30.520 it's going well. Always always enjoy to hop on with 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:33.280 you guys. So this is gonna be fun. I can't wait. Well, 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:35.039 we're gonna We're gonna pick your brain here over the 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:38.680 next forty five minutes. Absolutely, But first tell us how 0:01:38.680 --> 0:01:40.280 are things going. I mean, you're in the middle of 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:43.240 your busiest time of the year, really ramping up and 0:01:43.280 --> 0:01:45.800 getting the beast taking care of which of course is 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:48.640 a must read for anybody around the draft whenever it 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.280 does release. But everything going well for you and this 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:56.520 journey again. Yeah, you know, we just got through All 0:01:56.560 --> 0:02:01.600 Star season, Shrine Game, NFLPA uh, Senior Bowl of course. 0:02:01.800 --> 0:02:04.120 And you know this, this whole process is all about 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.640 cross checking, right, So h by the time the season's over, 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:10.000 most of the the hay is in the barn. At that point, 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:12.239 all the work has been done, You've watched the tape. 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:16.000 Now it's the chance to cross check what you thought. Uh. 0:02:16.120 --> 0:02:18.240 And that's what these all these events are for the 0:02:18.280 --> 0:02:20.760 All Star Games, the Combine coming up here in a 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:24.280 little bit. The the official Combine invite list just got 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:27.040 released today, so uh, you know, I don't think there 0:02:27.040 --> 0:02:29.680 are any big surprises on that, but uh, you know, 0:02:29.720 --> 0:02:32.600 it's it's just another step in the process. So and 0:02:32.600 --> 0:02:36.160 then after the combine obviously Pro Day's workouts and so, 0:02:36.320 --> 0:02:39.080 you know, each each step tells us something, It helps 0:02:39.160 --> 0:02:42.080 us out as we go through this process of trying 0:02:42.080 --> 0:02:44.160 to figure out this draft class, who's going to be 0:02:44.160 --> 0:02:47.359 a fit for which team, especially the Cowboys. Uh, it's 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:49.520 it's uh, it's a lot of work, but it's also 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:52.040 a lot of fun. So what year is this for 0:02:52.120 --> 0:02:54.320 you now covering the draft? Are you in the double 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:59.360 digits yet? And the fact that you've already gotten to 0:02:59.440 --> 0:03:02.480 where you are is remarkable. I mean, the the path 0:03:02.520 --> 0:03:05.480 that you have blazed for yourself has been so fun 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:08.640 to watch. But where does this draft class kind of 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:10.839 rank for you in terms of the ones that you've 0:03:10.840 --> 0:03:14.960 seen to this point. Yeah, you know, I just got 0:03:15.000 --> 0:03:17.240 home from Mobile and I was counting the years. That 0:03:17.320 --> 0:03:20.239 was my my twelfth year going to the Senior Bowl U. 0:03:20.680 --> 0:03:22.400 So yeah, we've been doing it as a long time. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:27.080 But you know, it's it's it's hard to really ranked 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:29.640 draft classes. You know, I find it hard, at least 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.000 for myself, because you know, we see these guys in 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.679 the NFL and it's kind of hard to just eliminate 0:03:34.720 --> 0:03:37.000 that from our minds and just focus on, you know, 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.600 how we saw them as prospects. But you know, this 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:42.240 is a class that's really interesting because you know, I 0:03:42.240 --> 0:03:45.880 think we've got two non quarterbacks in that top tier, 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.560 Jalen Carter from Georgia Willie Anderson from Alabama, whichever order 0:03:49.600 --> 0:03:52.080 you want. In my opinion, it's those two. Then there's 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.840 a little bit of a drop off and then until 0:03:53.840 --> 0:03:56.200 you get to that next tier of non quarterbacks, and 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.640 then of course the quarterbacks. Uh, it's a really unique group. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.080 You've got, in my opinion, the top quarterback in the 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:05.240 class Brice Young, who is a complete outlier from a 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:08.400 sized perspective, and so every team's gonna look at that 0:04:08.440 --> 0:04:12.440 a little bit differently. You've got a guy like c. J. 0:04:12.520 --> 0:04:15.080 Stroud from Ohio State who had a good career and 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:17.839 then he played his best game of his life in 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.040 the final game and the Peach Bowl against Georgia, and 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.520 so how do you you know, way that compared to 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:26.279 the first twenty seven games of his Ohio State career. 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:28.919 Will love Is from Kentucky did not have the senior 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:31.480 year many expected, but he's still a really talented player. 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:33.760 You've excited for what he could be at the next level. 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:36.520 Then Anthew Richardson from Florida. He's got the most upside 0:04:36.520 --> 0:04:39.440 of any of these quarterbacks. So it's a really interesting 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:43.120 group of quarterbacks. And then the non quarterbacks. I think 0:04:43.160 --> 0:04:45.040 that you've got again two at the top, then a 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:48.000 drop off and then that's where you know, we start 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:50.880 to see the depth throughout the late first round, second round, 0:04:50.920 --> 0:04:54.719 third round, fourth round. So, Dan, you just mentioned quarterback. 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.480 What did you think about Jake Haner? Is it how 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.800 you pronounce his name? Is that correctly? Is that? I felt, yeah, 0:05:01.800 --> 0:05:04.520 I felt like he he showed some good things um 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.160 and this uh and the Senior Bowl, and I felt 0:05:07.160 --> 0:05:10.080 like he really rose and stocked his In my opinion, 0:05:10.120 --> 0:05:11.640 I feel like he rose the stock a little bit 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:16.360 now he played. Yeah, he was my top quarterback at 0:05:16.360 --> 0:05:19.720 the Senior Bowl going into the WEEKUM And so it 0:05:19.760 --> 0:05:23.240 wasn't it wasn't the sexiest group of quarterbacks because you know, 0:05:23.480 --> 0:05:26.039 we're used to having maybe a first rounder in there, 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:31.200 you know, justin Herbert Carson wentz uh, you know, Baker Mayfield. 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.080 These guys were all the Senior Bowl, right, We didn't 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:35.760 have that this year. No, Will Levis Hendon Hooker was 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:38.600 hurt um, But going in I thought, you know, Jake 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:41.159 Haner was the best of the group. And he doesn't 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:43.360 look like much. You know, he's six foot, just over 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:46.159 two hundred pounds, um. You know, the arm is good, 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:51.440 not great, but his competitive juices, his uh you know, 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:55.000 just that competitive toughness that he brings is so profound 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.640 and something that coaches are going to fall in love with. Uh. 0:05:57.680 --> 0:05:59.520 You know, I think just I go back to last year, 0:06:00.000 --> 0:06:03.200 it's ucla one of the best comeback performances I've ever 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.279 seen from a quarterback and that has stuck with me. 0:06:05.680 --> 0:06:07.760 And you know, coming into this year he was hurt 0:06:07.760 --> 0:06:09.560 a little bit, but when he's on the field, that 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:12.880 frozen State offense would go. And so I think that 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:15.080 I don't know that he's ever going to be a 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.200 long term starter, but I think he has a floor 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:25.279 of being a Taylor Heineke. You know, yeah, that's yeah him. Yeah. Yeah. 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:28.400 Not big guys not gonna necessarily wow you with the 0:06:28.440 --> 0:06:32.479 physical traits, but they're just gamers and you know, they're accurate, 0:06:32.520 --> 0:06:35.960 they anticipate, they do quarterback things right, you know, We're 0:06:35.960 --> 0:06:39.240 so used to a lot of these college quarterbacks. It's 0:06:39.320 --> 0:06:42.200 projection in terms of reading the defense, in terms of 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:45.520 making protection calls. With a guy like Jake Haner, you 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:47.880 know he can do that. You can see what he's 0:06:47.920 --> 0:06:50.880 doing out there and the way he's processing. So no, yeah, 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.040 I'm a big fan of hanter Um. You know, I 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:54.600 don't I don't know that he did enough to get 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:57.440 in that top one hundred conversation. But if I'm in 0:06:57.440 --> 0:06:59.520 the fourth round and I'm looking for a quarterback to 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:02.640 round out my quarterback room and someone just to add 0:07:03.120 --> 0:07:06.800 as a backup possibility, Hayner would be definitely a guy 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:10.120 at target. I'm glad you brought him up because han 0:07:10.280 --> 0:07:12.440 out of Fresno State, one of the words that I 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.080 had seen was moxie. I mean, he just has this 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.080 moxie about him, this upside that might be limited, but 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.320 his toughness and his grit shine through that. And that's 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.200 kind of what it looked like from the quarterbacks as 0:07:25.200 --> 0:07:27.960 a whole. In Mobile Max Duggan, you could throw him 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.560 into that same conversation. Maybe not the most talented guy, 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:32.760 but a guy that people will rally around. You saw that. 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:35.800 Of course, they're in the playoff run with TCU and 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:39.200 then Clayton Tune in there as well. But Dallas has 0:07:39.240 --> 0:07:43.040 had a history of drafting quarterbacks that have been at 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:44.920 the Senior Bowl. Of course, Dak Prescott was a Senior 0:07:44.920 --> 0:07:47.080 Bowl guy. They've they've been interested in guys that have 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.400 been in Mobile. So, out of the six guys that 0:07:50.440 --> 0:07:53.360 you got to see actually played Dane, which one stood 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.240 out to you the most that could be a potential 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.200 fit for Dallas. Would it be a Jake Haner him? 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.960 It might be one of these other five. I mean, 0:08:01.000 --> 0:08:03.920 I think that Hainter would certainly make sense. Clayton tune, 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:06.560 He's seen a lot of football, played a lot of football. Um, 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.000 and I go back to that UTSA tape earlier this 0:08:09.080 --> 0:08:11.440 year where he put the team on his back in 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.560 the late in that game into overtime. Um, I think 0:08:14.560 --> 0:08:18.320 that Clayton tune there. He's overcome a lot of adversity. Uh, 0:08:18.360 --> 0:08:21.080 you know, just the last three years. Uh, he had 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:24.600 forty touchdowns this year. Nobody else in AAC history the 0:08:24.600 --> 0:08:27.400 American Conference has ever thrown forty or more touchdowns in 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.880 a season. So, uh, you know, he's a productive guy. 0:08:29.920 --> 0:08:32.720 There's there's a lot to like about him. Um, you know, 0:08:32.760 --> 0:08:35.800 I think Max Duggan, he's another guy were you really 0:08:35.840 --> 0:08:38.480 appreciate the competitive toughness. This is a guy that he's 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.520 a son of a high school football coach. Uh. You know, 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.160 there's a lot of things where you know, check the 0:08:43.200 --> 0:08:48.280 boxes from a mentality standpoint, from a competitive temperament standpoint. Um, 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.280 it's just there's some things on the field he needs 0:08:50.280 --> 0:08:52.360 to needs to work on. The mechanics can get all 0:08:52.400 --> 0:08:55.439 over the place. Uh. It just being a more consistent 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.079 thrower of the football so he can be accurate from 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:01.040 snap to snap. So uh, I think he maybe has 0:09:01.080 --> 0:09:03.679 a little bit more upside than say a hainer or 0:09:03.720 --> 0:09:06.600 a tune. But he has a lower floor too, So 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:09.280 you know, it's it's it's one of those trade offs 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:11.040 with a guy like Max Duggan. I'll give you one 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:13.120 more name who wasn't at the Senior Bowl. He was 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.640 actually at the shrine, Aidan O'Connell from Purdue. Okay. I 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.200 liked him better than several of the quarterbacks that were 0:09:19.200 --> 0:09:20.960 at the Senior Bowl. I was surprised he didn't get 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:25.359 an invite. Just an accurate, quick release type of quarterback. 0:09:26.320 --> 0:09:28.319 Not the most mobile guy. And then that's that's a 0:09:28.400 --> 0:09:30.319 trade off with him. You're not getting a guy that's 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:33.679 going to necessarily make guys miss in the pocket extend plays. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:35.800 So you wish he was a little bit quicker with 0:09:35.880 --> 0:09:38.760 his lower body. But this is a mature guy. He's 0:09:38.840 --> 0:09:42.400 married already, he's got his degree, he's ready for pro life. 0:09:43.120 --> 0:09:45.160 But just drop him in the locker room and I 0:09:45.200 --> 0:09:47.440 think he'll be a backup from day one. Yeah, And 0:09:47.760 --> 0:09:51.199 you mentioned in regard to in regards to Bryce Young, 0:09:51.280 --> 0:09:53.439 you talked about his size and how that might be concerned. 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:56.280 I think that's also too similarly with Heiner, is that 0:09:56.360 --> 0:09:58.520 he's a smaller guy. You know, you worry about how 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:02.000 is he gonna performing, know with big linemen around in 0:10:02.080 --> 0:10:04.319 whatever the case may be, his escapability whatever. So I 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:06.520 just wanted to add on that. I feel like that 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:09.200 might be a reason why his you know, maybe he's 0:10:09.240 --> 0:10:11.760 not picked super early as well, because it's his size 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:15.880 and that being a big factor for the position, right, 0:10:15.960 --> 0:10:19.320 And you know, I think to your point, it's it's 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.360 not just you know, can he see over the line 0:10:21.480 --> 0:10:24.480 or something, it's Kenny hold up durability wise, you know, 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.319 it's Kenny because both these guys are a little more 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:30.200 on the slight side. Uh. So, you know, it's and 0:10:30.400 --> 0:10:32.800 we know in the NFL everything happens so much faster, 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:35.480 and especially with Bryce Young. Look, this is a guy 0:10:35.600 --> 0:10:40.560 that he thrives by welcoming that chaos. He thrives moving 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.360 in the pocket and you know, waiting an extra half 0:10:43.400 --> 0:10:46.440 second to let that route come open. But in the NFL, 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:50.640 even even in comparison to the SEC, things happen quicker. 0:10:50.920 --> 0:10:53.600 And so is he going to take more hits? How 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.440 much does he how many hits does he have in 0:10:55.480 --> 0:10:57.760 that one hundred and ninety pound body. Uh. You know, 0:10:57.800 --> 0:11:01.200 it's the last twenty five years we have had three 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:06.040 hundred and one quarterbacks drafted. Only two were below six 0:11:06.080 --> 0:11:09.080 foot and below two hundred pounds. We're talking about a 0:11:09.120 --> 0:11:10.920 complete out and neither of those guys who were top 0:11:10.960 --> 0:11:13.640 one hundred picks. So to draft a guy like Bryce 0:11:13.679 --> 0:11:17.080 Young with that size profile top three, which I'd be 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:19.320 shocked if he fell out of the top three, it's 0:11:19.360 --> 0:11:21.360 just something that we really haven't seen before. And that's 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.760 why I think, you know, in the past, you know, 0:11:23.760 --> 0:11:26.559 with most quarterbacks and we try to figure out where 0:11:26.600 --> 0:11:29.040 they're headed in the draft. We look at the breadcrumbs, 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.000 you know, we look at try to connect the dots. 0:11:32.520 --> 0:11:35.360 With a guy like Bryce Young, who is such a 0:11:35.360 --> 0:11:39.040 complete outlier, it's really tough to do that because you know, 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:41.800 it's he's that much of an outlier that you know, 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:44.959 a guy like Chris ballad general manager with the Colts. 0:11:44.960 --> 0:11:47.640 He's a guy that really loves the traits, he loves size. 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:51.120 But how do you how do you do that with 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:53.760 the quarterback position, where yes, you wish you were bigger, 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:57.600 but if he's really good at being a quarterback, you know, 0:11:57.640 --> 0:12:00.360 how do you how do you balance that? And it's 0:12:00.360 --> 0:12:03.080 it's just a really fascinating test case for a guy 0:12:03.120 --> 0:12:06.679 that's undersized but a really really good quarterback. Yeah, what 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:08.800 does that say about Bryce Young and what he's brought 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:12.440 just based off of his talents in his skill set alone, 0:12:12.440 --> 0:12:16.199 that he's even in that conversation, that status remarkable Dane, 0:12:16.240 --> 0:12:20.840 about how little those guys have gone in the past. Now, 0:12:21.520 --> 0:12:23.319 before we take our first break, I want to talk 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:27.000 about what position outside of quarterback stood out to you 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.400 the most in Mobile Which one kind of caught your 0:12:29.400 --> 0:12:32.880 eye and uh surprised you or maybe didn't surprise you 0:12:33.160 --> 0:12:34.960 based off of the position groups that you saw at 0:12:34.960 --> 0:12:40.400 the Senior Bowl. Um, I think wide receivers. Uh, you 0:12:40.400 --> 0:12:43.360 know that's the sexy position in mobile. You know that 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:46.040 that the guys that really have a chance to shine. UM. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:50.559 Jaden Reid was very good at a Michigan State Uh 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:53.080 that that Michigan State offense just that it really struggled 0:12:53.080 --> 0:12:55.839 this year without Kenneth Walker, and so I don't think 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:57.640 his senior tape really did him justice. But you go 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:59.960 back to his junior tape and that's where you know, 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:01.920 you see why a lot of scouts gave him that 0:13:02.000 --> 0:13:04.719 third round grade coming into this year, and I think 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:07.040 the Senior Bowl kind of reminded us of that. I'd 0:13:07.080 --> 0:13:09.040 be surprised if he's not a top one hundred pick. 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.680 Michael Wilson out of Stanford. He has missed more games 0:13:12.720 --> 0:13:15.560 the last three years then he has played, and obviously 0:13:15.600 --> 0:13:17.800 a red flag and something that teams have to figure out. 0:13:18.280 --> 0:13:22.600 But for his size six two to fifteen, moves really well, 0:13:23.040 --> 0:13:26.040 catches the ball through traffic. There's a lot to like 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:28.800 about Michael Wilson. It's just durability wise. You know, where 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.880 do you what's the price tag? Where do you draft 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:33.160 a guy like that? So the wide receiver stood out. 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:38.120 There are a few pass rushers that looked good on defense. 0:13:38.880 --> 0:13:41.360 I thought a couple of corners really stood out. Darius 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:45.360 Rush from South Carolina. Maybe I would argue nobody made 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:49.160 himself more money than Darius Rush, the South Carolina corner 0:13:49.520 --> 0:13:51.800 with the way he played at the senior boy he 0:13:51.840 --> 0:13:54.720 was running routes, four receivers, making plays on the ball. 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:58.959 No other dB touched the football more than Darius Rush. 0:13:59.160 --> 0:14:02.120 And he's really interesting background. He's a guy, you know, 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:04.320 a big fish and a small pond type of guy, 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.720 where he was always the best athlete growing up. So 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:10.000 he's playing quarterback, he's playing all these positions. Goes to 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:13.640 high school and he started as a quarterbacks as a freshman. 0:14:13.679 --> 0:14:15.360 That's how good he was and how small his high 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.560 school was. But you know he's playing Receiver's recruited as 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:21.160 a receiver, goes to South Carolina, will must jump moves 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.680 in the corner. So he's really only been playing corner 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:26.040 for a couple of years. And you see him getting 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.600 better and better and better. And we saw that in Mobile. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:32.000 He was also the fastest player at the Senior Bowl. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:35.560 According to the Zebra Technologies they're on field testing, he 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.400 was over twenty one miles per hour. He was also 0:14:38.480 --> 0:14:41.200 one of the longer players among the defensive backs thirty 0:14:41.200 --> 0:14:42.760 two inch r thirty two and a half or thirty 0:14:42.800 --> 0:14:45.880 two and three quarter inch arms six two, so good 0:14:45.880 --> 0:14:50.240 sized player. He can run. As sending tape, I worry 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.280 about him as a tackler, but I know he has 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:55.240 the size, the speed, and the coverage ability. And when 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.720 you have that, that's gonna get you drafted somewhere on 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:02.520 Day two. Probably Yeah. For me, I really am trying 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:05.640 to focus more on an offensive line and understanding what 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.920 those guys are doing. And I felt like it was 0:15:07.960 --> 0:15:10.360 good to see some of these offensive linemen who I 0:15:10.400 --> 0:15:13.000 think it's an interesting class because I feel like a 0:15:13.040 --> 0:15:15.960 lot of these guys are not long in the tooth, 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:18.600 but to college standards, maybe they are because you have 0:15:18.680 --> 0:15:21.040 more juniors to me and seniors that guys that stayed, 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:23.480 and I feel like that's a that's valuable for the 0:15:23.560 --> 0:15:27.320 offensive line position just because those guys get more time. 0:15:27.560 --> 0:15:30.960 And so I was looking at John Michael Smith's really 0:15:31.080 --> 0:15:34.080 he stood out to me. A Valia from TCU. I 0:15:34.120 --> 0:15:36.640 felt like his even if his hand tech isn't there, well, 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:38.760 if his hand tech isn't there, his feet can do it. 0:15:38.840 --> 0:15:41.560 You know. I me personally, I really was trying to 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.720 look at some of these offensive linemen and how they played. 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:45.720 And I mean, Cody mock Like, some of these guys 0:15:45.800 --> 0:15:48.920 really stood out to me and made I think they 0:15:48.960 --> 0:15:51.760 made a case for themselves in the Senior Bowl. But 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:53.880 really it was the fact that I was just like, Okay, 0:15:54.120 --> 0:15:56.840 what I saw on tape was real, right, like, Okay, 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:59.240 you actually do know how you actually do have a 0:15:59.280 --> 0:16:02.280 good anchor right like you do. Your hands are super explosive. 0:16:02.600 --> 0:16:05.280 I was just impressed with some of those guys that 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:07.680 came out there and made something. It made something, you know, 0:16:07.760 --> 0:16:11.120 shake yesterday, well today for yesterday in the game. So 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:13.080 for me, that's what I was really looking at. This 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:15.960 offensive line, defensive line, this in a Senior Bowl. I've 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:18.520 got a couple of names. It sounds like it's a 0:16:18.520 --> 0:16:21.000 positive thing. That's a great point. Sorry, Dan, I didn't 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:22.840 mean to cut you off there, but it sounds like 0:16:22.840 --> 0:16:25.920 it's a positive thing. Because wide receiver an offensive line, 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:29.160 both of which shining and mobile, both of which the 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.800 Cowboys could certainly take a look at Dan Yeah, no question. 0:16:33.880 --> 0:16:36.920 And I think, you know, to your point with with 0:16:37.040 --> 0:16:39.360 offensive linemen, it's you know, once you get to the NFL, 0:16:39.440 --> 0:16:42.880 all offensive linemen are. You know, they're they're quick, they're strong, 0:16:42.960 --> 0:16:46.000 they're powerful. You know what separates offensive lineman in the 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:49.320 NFL is really the technical skill. Absolutely, that's what you're 0:16:49.320 --> 0:16:51.880 looking for. And so I think a guy, you know, 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.120 you mentioned all the guys you mentioned, Yeah, they're seniors, 0:16:54.120 --> 0:16:56.360 they're fifth year guys. A couple of six year guys 0:16:56.360 --> 0:16:59.600 in there. Hey, um, I could argue that maybe the 0:16:59.640 --> 0:17:04.080 best offensive player throughout the week was Osyrius Torrens from FLOD. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:08.439 He's yeah, he was a guy that you know, he 0:17:08.520 --> 0:17:11.600 was really good at Louisiana Lafayette. He didn't need to 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:14.879 transfer to the SEC. He would have been already in 0:17:14.880 --> 0:17:17.960 that top fifty conversation if he stayed put. He decides 0:17:18.000 --> 0:17:21.320 to go to the SEC and challenge himself. He follows 0:17:21.359 --> 0:17:24.960 his head coach Billy Napier to Florida, and SEC competition 0:17:25.320 --> 0:17:28.600 was really not a problem for him. And so I 0:17:28.640 --> 0:17:30.840 think he has cemented himself as a top forty prospect 0:17:30.880 --> 0:17:34.040 in this draft could very easily go in the first round. 0:17:34.840 --> 0:17:37.399 Should be the top guard in this draft. I just 0:17:37.640 --> 0:17:40.240 it depends on if you think Peter Skerronsky from Northwestern's 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.000 a tackle or a guard. But besides Scarronsky, I think 0:17:43.000 --> 0:17:45.760 he should be the first guard off the board. John 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.199 Michael schmittz it was kind of like I mentioned with 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.320 Jaden Reid, how you know you get to go back 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.800 to his junior film to really appreciate Jane Reid. It's 0:17:52.880 --> 0:17:55.440 kind of similar with John Michael schmidts. I don't know 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.680 that his senior His senior year tape was was good. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.840 It was okay, but I thought his junior year tape 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:01.920 was a lot better. And I think the senior board 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:04.679 really reminded us of that is okay. This guy, you know, 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.280 whether you want to no matter what you want to 0:18:07.280 --> 0:18:08.720 throw at him, if you want to use power, you 0:18:08.720 --> 0:18:11.360 want to use quickness, uh, you want to use your leverage, 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:13.640 he has an answer for it. And he's a guy 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.919 that has played a lot of football um and so 0:18:16.160 --> 0:18:18.480 he looks like a plug and play center and someone 0:18:18.560 --> 0:18:22.159 that might not have a huge ceiling as a as 0:18:22.200 --> 0:18:23.920 a as a starter in the NFL, but you feel 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:26.080 really good about his floor. You feel really about good 0:18:26.080 --> 0:18:28.280 about him coming in from day one and helping your 0:18:28.280 --> 0:18:31.239 offensive line. Jaylen Duncan is another gentleman that I felt like, 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:33.879 uh came out and showed some some good things. His 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:37.679 instincts were pretty good at his feet, his hands from Maryland, 0:18:37.680 --> 0:18:41.919 by the way, Yes, from Maryland. By my mistakes, he 0:18:42.000 --> 0:18:43.919 does look like he needs a little bit of polish, 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:45.879 but I feel like he still came out and showed 0:18:45.920 --> 0:18:47.920 power in his hand. I feel like his hand tech, 0:18:48.160 --> 0:18:50.640 especially as improved since college. I don't know if he's 0:18:50.640 --> 0:18:52.359 been working with somebody or not, but I felt like 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:55.160 his hands were a lot stronger in the senior bold 0:18:55.160 --> 0:18:57.240 than I've seen them on film when I was watching 0:18:57.400 --> 0:19:03.000 back at him. I like it overall. I think offensive 0:19:03.040 --> 0:19:06.919 line is certainly a strong point for a lot of 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:08.800 the guys in this draft, and it's something that the 0:19:08.840 --> 0:19:10.560 Cowboys are gonna have to continue to take a look 0:19:10.600 --> 0:19:12.920 at as well. Like I mentioned a couple of moments ago, 0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:18.119 but yeah, you mentioned John Michael Smith's Minnesota. Matthew bergeron 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:20.520 from Syracuse. He had a good week as well. Oh, 0:19:20.600 --> 0:19:23.560 Cyrus Torrance out of Florida, and then Steve Abila out 0:19:23.560 --> 0:19:27.200 of TCU. 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