1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to a special edition podcast with 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Texans general manager Nick Cassio. John Harris and I had 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: a chance to catch up with him and talk about 4 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: all the players he's been signing, reshaping up the roster, 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,280 Speaker 1: all the issues affecting your Houston Texans. So let's get 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: right into it. Nick Kissario hard at work since being 7 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: named Texans general manager in early January. Yeah, it's been great. 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 1: It's you know, one day at a time. We've had 9 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: a lot of activity. We've done a lot of things, 10 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: but all with the intent to try to improve the 11 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: team as much as possible. There's no one way to 12 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: do that. It's going to take a series of transactions 13 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: over the course of i would say weeks, months, and 14 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: even during the season. So where the team is currently 15 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: quite frankly, it's probably going to be differently by the 16 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: time the season starts. So we have a long way 17 00:00:45,440 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 1: to go. There's a lot of work in front of 18 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: us yet to be done. But we were purposeful with 19 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: what we try to do just to improve the overall 20 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: competition and the composition of the team, understanding that change 21 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: is constant and change will probably continue, and we're just 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: gonna try to do what he feels best for the 23 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: organization and put our team in the best position possible. Nick, 24 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: before the quote unquote legal tampering period even began, you 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: made two trades. A guy that you know very well 26 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: having been in the building and then a guy that 27 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: you faced, whether it's with Buffalo or Miami, and Shack Lawson. 28 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: What do Marcus Cannon and Shack Lawson mean to the 29 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 1: U and this football club? Yeah? Both players have a 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 1: lot of experience, have been in successful programs in their 31 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: respective side of the ball as well. So I mean, 32 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: our whole thing is just trying to bring you good, 33 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: good people and good football players into the building, right, 34 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: And those two players specifically, I would say in Marcus 35 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:41,959 Speaker 1: his case, he has a lot of experience. He's played 36 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: a lot of football. I would say he's dealt with 37 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: a lot of adversity throughout the course of his life, 38 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: even going back to him when he came out in 39 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: the draft, right, which I'm sure you guys covered him 40 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: coming out of TCU. So what he's been through and 41 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:54,559 Speaker 1: what he's dealt with and how he's handled it really 42 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: speaks volumes about who he is as a man, not 43 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: so much but about him as a football player, made 44 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 1: a decision last year to stay away from football for 45 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: personal reasons and personal choice. But I know Marcus is 46 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:11,800 Speaker 1: a very prideful individual, cares a lot about football, and 47 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:13,720 Speaker 1: he's played a lot of good football. So again, nobody's 48 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: guaranteed anything. Everybody has to earn their role and everybody's 49 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna get the same opportunity Shack situation. You know, started 50 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 1: his career in Buffalo, played a lot of good football 51 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 1: for them, and ended up down in Miami last year, 52 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: did a lot of good things for their team as well. 53 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 1: So with those two players specifically, we just looked at 54 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: our team in situation. I thought there was an opportunity 55 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 1: for us to try to improve. What that actually means 56 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: and how that manifests itself. Nobody really knows, right, We're 57 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 1: not going to know that until the actually are on 58 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: the field. So we just try to make a decision 59 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: that we thought made sense for our team. So that's 60 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: why we went ahead with the transactions that we did. Nick, 61 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:51,239 Speaker 1: you also added two quarterbacks to the roster and to 62 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,880 Speaker 1: Rod Taylor and Ryan Finley. So what do these guys 63 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: bring to the table, bring to the organization. Yeah, both 64 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: players are a little bit different, right, So you know, 65 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,799 Speaker 1: Tyroude has a lot of experience. He's played for a 66 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,359 Speaker 1: number of different coaches, been in a lot of different systems, 67 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: very experienced. Um has a little bit of a background 68 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: with some of the coaches on our staff, right, So 69 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 1: the offense not necessarily might be something different that he's 70 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: played in, but I would say some of the attributes 71 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,480 Speaker 1: are similar. And Ryan's case, you know that was a 72 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 1: player a couple of years ago came out. I would say, 73 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:27,680 Speaker 1: whether it was the staff here in Houston or were 74 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: while we were in New Ellingland as well, had some 75 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:33,880 Speaker 1: good qualities, some good traits. So again, it doesn't necessarily 76 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 1: guarantee or mean anything. It just means that we brought 77 00:03:36,640 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: those players here. We brought those players here for a reason, 78 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: given the opportunity to compete and see if they can 79 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: carve out a role for themselves, whatever that is. Ultimately, 80 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: the player's performance is going to dictate who does what right, 81 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: It's not what I think or what a coach might think. Ultimately, 82 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 1: their performance will will bear what the role is going 83 00:03:53,480 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: to be. Nick and going out and trying to fortify 84 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: this roster and changing this roster, was there a particular, 85 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: the attribute that you were looking for. You to talk 86 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: about adversity with Marcus, and he's been through it, no doubt. 87 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: Was there I particulate attribute you were looking for in 88 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: the players you wanted to bring here to Houston. I'd say, 89 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: generally speaking, just good people that embrace competition and opportunity. 90 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: A lot of the players, for the most part, are 91 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: in a window of three to six seven years, right. 92 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: There's some players that kind of falling the side of 93 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: the spectrum, right, but have some experience in the league, 94 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:32,160 Speaker 1: have had some degree of success in whatever program they've 95 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: been associated with. But our thing is just here's an 96 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: opportunity for you. We're essentially it's a new team, new staff, 97 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: and the opportunities in front of you, and you know, 98 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: here's your chance. And I would say there was a 99 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: number of people, even some players that we did not sign, 100 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: that embrace the opportunity to be here, that wanted to 101 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,839 Speaker 1: be here. So it really speaks to the choices that 102 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: those people make, and hopefully it speaks to some of 103 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: the things that we're trying to do and what we're 104 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: trying to build and put in place here that hopefully 105 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,359 Speaker 1: we can sustain for a period of time. Nick, I 106 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,719 Speaker 1: know you've answered a lot of questions about Deshaun Watson 107 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: this offseason, and he's going through a very serious situation 108 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,240 Speaker 1: right now. I know the Texans are cooperating with the league, 109 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 1: working with the league, but what can you tell us 110 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: about that? How do you handle that as you build 111 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one Texans. Yeah, that's a good question, Mark. 112 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: We're certainly cognizant aware we've made a statement at the 113 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,040 Speaker 1: beginning about where the organization stood. I would say the league. 114 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: It's a legal situation, it's a legal process, so we're 115 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: certainly respectful of that. We certainly take them very seriously. 116 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: The allegations or what's been discussed or certainly troubling and organizationally, 117 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: that's not something that we can condone. That we condone 118 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 1: those types of actions. But again, we'll let the legal 119 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: process take care of itself, and however it's going to unfold, 120 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: we'll certainly comply and do we can to help and 121 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 1: facilitate a resolution for everybody. Nick, this might sound like 122 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: a weird question, but I've always thought about this. You 123 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: come into the building, you're brand new, hardly know where 124 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: anything is. I'm sure the first thing you do is 125 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: the paperwork and the onboarding process. But what was the 126 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: very first thing you felt like you needed to get 127 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: done the very first day you sat down at your 128 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 1: desk and went, okay, twenty twenty one Texans, what do 129 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: I do? What was the first thing that you really 130 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: set about to do that very first day. Yeah, honestly, 131 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 1: that's a great question, John, I mean, you have a 132 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: list of probably hundreds of things. I think the most 133 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:26,119 Speaker 1: important thing is trying to get to know the people 134 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: that are here, right, because ultimately, it's a people business. 135 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: All right. We can say what we want about what 136 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: goes on in the football field and xs and o's 137 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: and all that, but this is a people business and 138 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:36,840 Speaker 1: it's about the people that you have in the building 139 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:39,480 Speaker 1: on all different levels of the organization. So it's not 140 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: about just players, it's not about just coaches. It's about 141 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: every area of the organization. So really it's taken it 142 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: getting a chance to do a deep dive on some 143 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: of the people that are here, understanding that we're gonna 144 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: have to make difficult decisions. We've made some difficult decisions 145 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: and that's just part of you know, starting over to 146 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: a degree, right, so a to kind of get to 147 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,920 Speaker 1: know the people and just realize nothing's going to happen overnight, right. 148 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 1: You just try to figure out, Okay, what are some 149 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:06,919 Speaker 1: things you can get accomplished on a day to day basis, 150 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 1: and then go to bed at night, I put your 151 00:07:08,640 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: head in the pillow, think about the next day, and 152 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 1: then come back and just try to make some incremental progress. 153 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: So really it's about stacking multiple days together, and that's 154 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: the only way you're gonna build something that's sustainable. It's 155 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: just just to put you know, multiple days together over 156 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: the course of time and understanding you have to be malleable, 157 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: you have to be flexible, and you have to be 158 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: willing to adjust and adapt. And that's really probably a 159 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: hallmark of this league is the teams that figure out 160 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: how to do that are the ones that at least 161 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: have a chance for success. It doesn't necessarily ensure success, 162 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: but at least gives you a chance. So that's how 163 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: we've tried to approach it and just be consistent and 164 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: you know, just try to stay you know, as flat 165 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: as possible and understanding there's gonna be ups and downs 166 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: that come along with it. Nick, I think anybody trying 167 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: to put together an unofficial depth chart right now is 168 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 1: going to have a very hard time. And I think 169 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: you guys want it that way in a way because 170 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: you like the competition. But let's discuss the running backs 171 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 1: for a moment here, because Mark Ingram comes into the fold. 172 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:10,160 Speaker 1: You also have Philip Lindsay from Denver, and of course 173 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 1: you bring back David Johnson, and there are others as well. 174 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: It looks like a very thick depth chart right now 175 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 1: at the running back position. You gotta like that. Yeah, 176 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: I would say there's a lot of good players at 177 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: that position. I mean you can even throw in Scottie 178 00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 1: and Buddy right who have been here? Right? Who are 179 00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 1: younger players who have been you know, I would say 180 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: with their opportunities, specifically Buddy who's playing in a kicking game. 181 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: But you know, Mark, David and Philip have all had 182 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 1: different degrees of success in the league. They've all been 183 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: productive in their programs, and really, when you have competition, 184 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: it's good for everybody. Right, Um, I think that you're 185 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 1: talking about three great people. Their attitude, their approach, their 186 00:08:47,679 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: work ethic. I'd say they're genuine, they are, and they're 187 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 1: they're all excited to be here. Now what does that mean. 188 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I have no idea. They're all different. Um, 189 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 1: they're all different types of backs that have been productive 190 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: in their own right. So just trying to put them 191 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,360 Speaker 1: all in the best position possible. And I would say, 192 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: at some point, you're gonna need everybody on your team, right, 193 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 1: you don't know when, You don't really know how it's 194 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 1: going to shake out or unfold. So again I think 195 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: to your point, Mark, we've tried to as best we 196 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: can create that as much as possible, at as many 197 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: positions as possible, right, And I'm sure there'll be a 198 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: few more tweaks that we make along the way, so 199 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 1: we'll see how it all unfolds. And once we actually 200 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 1: get started, Nick, I can imagine the roster transformation is ongoing. 201 00:09:29,360 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing coming up is the draft. And 202 00:09:33,679 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: I've been at plenty of pro days a m in particular, 203 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: seeing you work those pro days. They're different the last 204 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 1: two years. Last year we didn't have them. This year, 205 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: they're different limiting capacity. So how important does the draft 206 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: become from a relations standpoint of trusting people getting opinions 207 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,240 Speaker 1: on players. How important does that become in this draft? 208 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:57,439 Speaker 1: In particular because you're new to Houston, but also the 209 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 1: way things are still limited in this draft process, says 210 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: how do you kind of approach that as you get 211 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: ready for the draft April twenty nine, the way you 212 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: articulated at John, That's exactly what it is. Really. Ultimately, 213 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: what this comes down to in terms of information that 214 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 1: you gain outside of the building is getting the right 215 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: information and knowing who to go through to gain that information, right, 216 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: because everybody's going to see him play. Everybody's gonna have 217 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: an observation about what they feel about a player. Even 218 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 1: at a pro day, You're going to see certain thing. 219 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,480 Speaker 1: Everybody's going to see certain things, right, So it's the 220 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,960 Speaker 1: information that you gather, and it is to give you 221 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: the most accurate profile on the player. Said, you can 222 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: make a good decision in real time with the appropriate information. 223 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,679 Speaker 1: So knowing who to go to, how to get that information, 224 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: and trusting the people that provide that information to you 225 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: is important, right because depend you know what it's like 226 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: depending on who you speak with or go to, whatever 227 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: their agenda may be of giving you whatever information and 228 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,560 Speaker 1: whatever you want, there's a reason behind that, right, So 229 00:10:55,600 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: you have to be able to kind of sift through 230 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: that and make sense of it. So I'd say our 231 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: scouts do a right job of that our area, Scott specifically, 232 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: in the group that James Lifford oversees. I mean, those 233 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: are the people that you're really relying on the most 234 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: because they're the ones that from beginning to end, call 235 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 1: it from May till April, right, They're the ones that 236 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: are in the area. They're the ones that are in 237 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 1: the schools on a regular basis, just under normal circumstances. 238 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,200 Speaker 1: So wherever you can get good information, that's the most 239 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: important thing. And then ultimately you just have to make 240 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: an assessment about the profile that's being created. But the 241 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 1: reality is you're really don't you know what that is 242 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 1: going to look like until they actually get here, right, 243 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: So you may have some information that tells you one 244 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,920 Speaker 1: thing and then they get here and you actually find 245 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: out something different. Right, So then you have to say, okay, 246 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 1: all right, well this maybe this is a little bit 247 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: different than what we thought, but you know, we can 248 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: deal with it. So it's a great question, John, and 249 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: that's I would say, especially this year, you just want 250 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: to make sure you have the most accurate information so 251 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: that you can make a good assessment. Some of these 252 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: forty times are kind of ridiculous. Our clocks running faster 253 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: or something with COVID. I don't know what's going on. 254 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: The trainers are getting paid a lot of money to 255 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 1: make sure the players run fast so all the agents 256 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: can send their players there the next year, So gotcha? Gotcha? Hey, Nick? 257 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: What about the coaching staff. I don't think we've gotten 258 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: a comment from you, and I know you can't comment 259 00:12:13,080 --> 00:12:15,719 Speaker 1: on everybody, but it looks exciting what you've been able 260 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: to put together. And when are they going to get 261 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: to coach? What's the off season going to look like? 262 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: What can you tell us? Yeah, we're getting closer. I 263 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: think we'll have a better idea of for the next 264 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: week or two what the off season is going to 265 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,240 Speaker 1: look like. But as far as the staff is concerned, 266 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: a lot of different coaches with varying levels of experience. 267 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:32,480 Speaker 1: The one thing that we've seen over the last few 268 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 1: months is just how they've worked together in whatever the 269 00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 1: arena has been right, whether it's been remotely, whether they've 270 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: been in house, just the way they work kind of 271 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: collectively and collaboratively. Some have more experience than others. We 272 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of good young coaches that are excited 273 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,360 Speaker 1: and eager to learn. So let's say it's a pretty 274 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:53,240 Speaker 1: decent collection of people. And once you have the opportunity 275 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: to work with the players and you get to see 276 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: even more so again, we're you know, we're excited about 277 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: the staff that we've assembled, and you know, we'll certainly 278 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: be more excited when you get the opportunity to go 279 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 1: on the field, hopefully and work with the players on 280 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: a one on one basis. Truth, how many phones did 281 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,680 Speaker 1: you burn up during the month of March. I only 282 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: use one cell phone. It actually still works. I haven't 283 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 1: seen the bill yet for that month. Maybe maybe we'll 284 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,959 Speaker 1: have the organization pay for it. But no, it was 285 00:13:22,960 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: a lot of work by a lot of different people, 286 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:27,280 Speaker 1: and you know, it's it's ongoing, and uh, you know, 287 00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: we're certainly excited about where we are today and where 288 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,719 Speaker 1: we're headed. All right, Nick, Well, thanks so much for 289 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: the time and best of luck in the next few 290 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: weeks before the draft. Thanks Mark, Thanks John. There It 291 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: is our special edition podcast with Texans General manager at 292 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: Nick Kissario and stay tuned for more podcasts and more 293 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: on Texans All Access five nights a week on Sports 294 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: Radio six ten six to seven pm. 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