Speaker 1: So what's there to say about our friend Sherry Shepherd.
Speaker 1: We love her. She's an Emmy Award winning comedian. She's
Speaker 1: had an incredible TV career spanning two decades, and now
Speaker 1: she's hosting her own talk show, Sherry. Let's talk about
Speaker 1: how she got her start or incredible work ethic, and
Speaker 1: what it's like now hosting her own show. Sherry Shepherd,
Speaker 1: thank you for being here. This is amazing. Having you
Speaker 1: on our radio show is just a treat and a gift.
Speaker 1: Let's go a little deeper.
Speaker 2: Okay, We're going to turn this phone off, because no
Speaker 2: matter how much you do to turn off a phone,
Speaker 2: it still goes off. Like I'm always scared that it
Speaker 2: just will go off. So basically I just turned it off.
Speaker 1: You know what, though, if it goes off, I'd be
Speaker 1: kind of interested to see who's called his Sherry Shepherd.
Speaker 2: Well, the one thing I can always say, it's my son, Okay,
Speaker 2: even though it's my girlfriend going what you're doing.
Speaker 1: Right, that's best son, I got it right. Where are
Speaker 1: you from?
Speaker 3: Originally Chicago?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chicago by way of Hoffman Estates, Illinois, the Northwest suburb.
Speaker 1: So and now you're living in New York full time.
Speaker 1: Do you like being in a New Yorker.
Speaker 2: When I tell you I love New York so much,
Speaker 2: Like everybody goes go to Jersey because you can get
Speaker 2: more for your money, and I'm like, I'm staying right
Speaker 2: in New York. I don't care what I gotta do.
Speaker 2: If I gotta sell avon on the side.
Speaker 3: You know, It's like.
Speaker 2: People think, don't be thinking I got that Llen one
Speaker 2: hundred million dollar talk show deal. No, sir, So like
Speaker 2: you got, you got to be on a budget. So
Speaker 2: I don't care what I gotta do. I'm staying in
Speaker 2: New York, in Manhattan, which is expensive as heck, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do it.
Speaker 1: But sure is the city is a pain in the ass,
Speaker 1: and that's what you like about it.
Speaker 3: I love it. I love the energy. Like if you
Speaker 3: go to la and you're most of us are actors.
Speaker 3: We're in the valley.
Speaker 2: It's just like chill and laid back and you get
Speaker 2: in your car, you go meet up at the park
Speaker 2: to go walking. Everything is you have to get in
Speaker 2: your car. You don't take like the bus or the train.
Speaker 2: That's if you don't have a car and you gotta
Speaker 2: get there. But it's just very chill in LA when
Speaker 2: we say, you know, let's get together for lunch, just
Speaker 2: we just saying goodbye. It's like, so you go to
Speaker 2: New York and everybody is very real, very authentic.
Speaker 1: Too real sometimes or you're okay with that, I'm okay
Speaker 1: with you know where you're staying with that.
Speaker 2: I know where I stand, I know where I'm getting
Speaker 2: and I live in Harlem, and so there's always something
Speaker 2: going on.
Speaker 3: Even in Manhattan.
Speaker 2: There's always it's so many nationalities, and we got a
Speaker 2: parade for every nationality that is in New York. I'm like, well,
Speaker 2: who is this now? It's the Turkey. Everybody from over
Speaker 2: from Turkey. We having a parade like it's it's the
Speaker 2: Puerto Rican Day Parade. It's the Haitian Day Parade. It's
Speaker 2: the LGBTQ Parade. It's the people with one leg, they
Speaker 2: got a parade. It's the people that have no we
Speaker 2: It's a parade for everything. It's a bike marathon. It's
Speaker 2: just always something going on. They got salted dancing in
Speaker 2: Central Park over here, they got you can learn how
Speaker 2: to waltz over here, they're doing a play, and I
Speaker 2: mean it's you know, it's there's a man walking around
Speaker 2: naked in Times Square.
Speaker 3: It's something going on.
Speaker 1: I'm making notes here. Slow down the one Legged Parade.
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of that.
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. If it's not there, it's about to come.
Speaker 1: And by the way, if if you don't live in
Speaker 1: New York City, or even if you do, weekends in
Speaker 1: Harlem is really the best time. And weekends there's always
Speaker 1: something going on year round, even when the weather sucks. Ass.
Speaker 1: Harlem is like.
Speaker 2: Literally if you go to Melba's restaurant, they block off
Speaker 2: the streets in Harlem. But Melboa's is especially great because
Speaker 2: they play double Dutch, they dance.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's just a party.
Speaker 2: And I go every I walk from my place, which
Speaker 2: is about thirty blocks, and I walk and we just
Speaker 2: have a good time, have some catfish strips and we're
Speaker 2: just in a drink and we're partying. A Babyface was
Speaker 2: just doing his concert on the Brownstone Stoop.
Speaker 1: Just for the It was an announced. He just showed up.
Speaker 1: Obviously you heard about.
Speaker 3: It announce, but everybody came with their lawn chairs. And
Speaker 3: then Mary J.
Speaker 2: Blige was there the next week. So what do you
Speaker 2: get to go see Babyface? Perform on somebody stoop, not
Speaker 2: a person who stupid was probably wasn't happy it's on
Speaker 2: my lawn now on my stoop down the stairs, but
Speaker 2: it was so I love that energy.
Speaker 1: So I walked out of my apartment yesterday, had to
Speaker 1: run around the corner and get some dog food whatever.
Speaker 1: And there was a man on the stoop on Broadway
Speaker 1: meowing at people. And I think I saw him hiss
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Yes, I'm like, you know, what,
Speaker 1: what the fuck is going on in the city?
Speaker 2: You know, I mean?
Speaker 1: But I also had a woman lunge at me which
Speaker 1: looked like a sharp object in her hand at one time.
Speaker 3: You have to be careful, which is like, what are
Speaker 3: you doing?
Speaker 1: And last night in Bedsty, or two nights ago in Bedstide,
Speaker 1: there was a murder, just for a random I look
Speaker 1: for a.
Speaker 2: Place in Bedstick. Well, so now I'm not you said
Speaker 2: it was a murder, all right? They gotta go to
Speaker 2: Cobble Hill.
Speaker 1: They murder everyone everywhere. It's it's not just Bedsty.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but ain't nobody said, you know, over here in
Speaker 2: real Good Heights they had a murder. Ain't nobody say
Speaker 2: to Amy Schumer never said to me it was a
Speaker 2: murder on her block.
Speaker 1: Okay, you're right, But my point is this, we choose
Speaker 1: to be here. We pay the premium to be here.
Speaker 1: Yet being here is it's more costly than just cash.
Speaker 3: Yeah it is.
Speaker 1: It wears you down.
Speaker 3: It wears you down.
Speaker 2: But I have to say I got to, you know,
Speaker 2: preface it with I'm very blessed the way I came
Speaker 2: to New York to live. If I had to come
Speaker 2: to New York to struggle at this age, I couldn't
Speaker 2: do it because the New York is really a place
Speaker 2: where you learn independence, you learn to hustle. This is
Speaker 2: a place where you got to grind New York. And
Speaker 2: so I'm very, very blessed that to the both times
Speaker 2: that I lived here, I was co hosting the view.
Speaker 2: I lived in the Trump, but well it used to
Speaker 2: be the Trump. They took those litters down in a heartbeat.
Speaker 2: So I live in a building with no name, but
Speaker 2: I used to live there. And then you know about
Speaker 2: a big house in New Jersey. And now I came
Speaker 2: here with my own show. So it's a different way
Speaker 2: than I'm coming to New York. My love is a
Speaker 2: little bit different from my niece who's moving here, Who's like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I can't believe how much apartment scholls, Auntie,
Speaker 2: can I stay with you?
Speaker 1: Well, she'll be calling you, She'll be calling SHERF.
Speaker 3: That answer is no, absolutely.
Speaker 1: Well, I tell you, And I've told this story before.
Speaker 1: A friend of ours who works at the show, Josh,
Speaker 1: he lived in Cleveland and he was dying to move
Speaker 1: to New York City. He said, Elvis, how much do
Speaker 1: I need to make to be comfortable in New York City?
Speaker 1: I said, Josh, billionaires are uncomfortable, and it's uncolling. Said,
Speaker 1: that's the thing. We love being uncomfortable in this town.
Speaker 1: It's this self cutting thing. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: get it, but here we are, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I don't know. I guess to being uncomfortable makes
Speaker 2: me try harder. The only thing I hate is I
Speaker 2: don't have the energy that I used to have when
Speaker 2: I was uncomfortable, that energy to go out and hit
Speaker 2: the pavement hard. Right now, I'm too tired. After I
Speaker 2: make one damn TikTok, I'm like, I got to go
Speaker 2: to sleep. So this is a I'm blessed that, you know,
Speaker 2: at this age, just like I'm seeing the benefits of
Speaker 2: my working so hard and so much struggling that I
Speaker 2: don't have to.
Speaker 3: I don't have to do that hustle.
Speaker 1: You can enjoy New York.
Speaker 3: I ride the train because I just like riding the train.
Speaker 1: Way the train. He always gives you a story, always
Speaker 1: on the train.
Speaker 2: But I do it because I'm trying to teach my
Speaker 2: son how to take the train and ride the train.
Speaker 3: So we keep getting lost, so I'm not teaching them nothing.
Speaker 2: But it's not I'm not riding the train because I
Speaker 2: have to because I have a talk show, so you know,
Speaker 2: they provide a driver. But I like being on the
Speaker 2: train because I liked it keeps me fresh as far
Speaker 2: as like my mind, my creativity. So I'm very thankful
Speaker 2: that I'm here in this place doing what I do.
Speaker 1: You can catch me on the F train today. I'll
Speaker 1: be the F train. Hey, yeah, the F train.
Speaker 3: I do the dow See. I take the If I
Speaker 3: don't have my reading glasses on, that's when I get lost.
Speaker 1: I was going to do.
Speaker 2: I'm usually taking like the D train, and it was
Speaker 2: one time the Broadway show I couldn't get an uber,
Speaker 2: so I said, let me take the train. Normally, when
Speaker 2: I ride the train, I don't look like Sheery Shepherd,
Speaker 2: all right, So yo, cousin Artha, that's what I look like,
Speaker 2: all right. But I got on the train this time
Speaker 2: straight off a Broadway show.
Speaker 3: So I had this.
Speaker 2: Fusia pink puffer coat on, hair hanging down on my butt,
Speaker 2: lashes that look like stairsteps on my eyes. And I
Speaker 2: got on the train and it was at night, and
Speaker 2: I thought the d I thought it was the b
Speaker 2: Trade and I was like, okay, I'm getting off.
Speaker 3: I don't know where I am.
Speaker 2: And that's when I look like a tourist because I
Speaker 2: got off and I kept walking back and forth, going
Speaker 2: where am I at?
Speaker 1: It's a scary moment.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And these two people came by and the girls like,
Speaker 2: I really love your coat. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm in trouble when somebody's like I really love your coat.
Speaker 2: I'm from Chicago. I know what that means. I'm about
Speaker 2: to take that coat boy. And I'm walking and I
Speaker 2: was like, I don't know where I'm at. And then
Speaker 2: something said Sherry, first of all, stop walking back and
Speaker 2: forth looking at signs, and then I go, I gotta
Speaker 2: maybe if I walk down the block and I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: this is when you notice there's no street lights on
Speaker 2: this block, and I go, where were you?
Speaker 1: I was even do you even know where you were?
Speaker 3: I was lost?
Speaker 1: But where where?
Speaker 3: I just got off because I kept going I'm.
Speaker 1: Not pass So you got back on? I mean, did you?
Speaker 3: But I didn't know how.
Speaker 2: When I went downstairs, I was like, I don't see
Speaker 2: like going to the downtown.
Speaker 3: So I don't know if I'm in the Bronx. I'm not.
Speaker 3: I'm not quite sure where.
Speaker 2: The numbers are just high numbers, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, and then the person I want to ask
Speaker 2: don't look like I should be asking. I got a
Speaker 2: pink puffer coat on from Chloe Kardashian's line, and some
Speaker 2: girl just told me she likes it. I'm not gonna
Speaker 2: have this coat too long. So I was just like,
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, Sherry, what is going?
Speaker 1: So what did you do? You got back on the train.
Speaker 2: Some said, bitch, if you don't call an uber and
Speaker 2: I went, oh, that's right, and Uber, and I'm calling
Speaker 2: Uber black because I can't talk.
Speaker 3: I'm so traumatized.
Speaker 1: And they'll find you. They'll find you. You don't even
Speaker 1: have to know where you are.
Speaker 3: Don't find somebody uber black.
Speaker 2: When you call it uber black, it's stem Dog on
Speaker 2: the regular Uber and the regular Lift. They want to
Speaker 2: talk to you. They got a mixtape. They want you
Speaker 2: to produce the record for him. You know it smells
Speaker 2: like the kids and just been in the in the
Speaker 2: car they you know, they didn't made they lunch and
Speaker 2: ate it Like I was like, I need a Uber
Speaker 2: black because I'm so traumatized. I just wanted you get
Speaker 2: in then Uber black. They don't say nothing to you.
Speaker 2: They open up the door and they don't say anything
Speaker 2: because the tip is already included with the black.
Speaker 1: So whoever thought we'd actually be pampering ourselves by getting
Speaker 1: Uber black? You don't really want to take care of
Speaker 1: myself to time, I'm gonna treat myself to an Uber black.
Speaker 1: If you're lost in freaking New York, you should do that.
Speaker 2: Were in your pink Yeah, when your nerves is bad, right,
Speaker 2: you just go that extra and get the Uber Black.
Speaker 1: Well, Sherry, here you are. You live in New York.
Speaker 1: You're in season two of the show now season one?
Speaker 1: Uh did you know in your heart of hearts this
Speaker 1: is going well? I bet you there's gonna be a
Speaker 1: season two or there was there ever? Any how does
Speaker 1: that work when you have seasons? Do you ever like
Speaker 1: want did you wonder for a second.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm always in that state of because that way
Speaker 2: when it happens, I'm just like so like so pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 2: I love people who go I already know that that
Speaker 2: this show is going to be picked up. I already
Speaker 2: know that we're gonna like I envy that. I wish
Speaker 2: I could be like that from me, I'm like, please, lord,
Speaker 2: let it be picked up because I'm having so much
Speaker 2: fun and I actually I love doing this. I hope
Speaker 2: they pick it up. So when we got a two
Speaker 2: season pickup, which rarely.
Speaker 1: Happens, oh wait, I didn't know that you got two
Speaker 1: seasons now for two weeks, so you're guaranteed a three
Speaker 1: season show?
Speaker 2: Sochch no, but that's the talk showhere. Even though Fox
Speaker 2: picked it up for two seasons, Stepmar Mercury anytime can go,
Speaker 2: you know what, this ain't working for us. So it
Speaker 2: doesn't mean I'm guaranteed, but it shows that Fox had
Speaker 2: faith in my show, and the affiliates have faith in
Speaker 2: my show that they said we want to do two
Speaker 2: years with you.
Speaker 1: What's your daylight? Now? What's it like on production day?
Speaker 1: Like today?
Speaker 2: Production day, Well, after I take care of my son
Speaker 2: and get him off to school, I come in and
Speaker 2: seven in the morning, and I immediately have to get
Speaker 2: if there's anybody waiting, Some people fly in and they
Speaker 2: get there really early. I will sit and talk to
Speaker 2: them and take pictures. That's like five ten minutes. I'll
Speaker 2: take pictures with anybody that's out there, and then I
Speaker 2: come in. They start doing my makeup. But literally about
Speaker 2: seven forty five, I gotta go over hot topics because
Speaker 2: I need to. I need to go in the room
Speaker 2: and talk to people, kind of like I'm at a
Speaker 2: comedy club. I need to go, this is what happened
Speaker 2: to me yesterday, and I'll tell the story and if
Speaker 2: they laugh, then I go, we're gonna use that right
Speaker 2: when I come and sit on the couch. So I
Speaker 2: came in and I go, I bombed at a comedy club.
Speaker 3: I can't believe it. This is what and they said
Speaker 3: that was funny.
Speaker 2: Then we go over all we find hot topics that
Speaker 2: we can talk about, and I look for stuff that
Speaker 2: I can bring a lightness to and a fun attitude
Speaker 2: and spirit too, like Jimmy Butler had a different.
Speaker 1: Haircut and I was pretty freaky.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this this latest morning, we went on this whole thing,
Speaker 2: and I said, oh my gosh, that would be funny
Speaker 2: because I know the coaches are telling their team just
Speaker 2: play on the side of his bangs.
Speaker 3: He won't be able to see you.
Speaker 2: And the jokes just started fine, and I said, this
Speaker 2: is gonna be a good day because stuff is coming
Speaker 2: to me right and I have So it was initially
Speaker 2: it was me writing my own jokes, but now we
Speaker 2: have a comic named Tammy Pescatelli, who is this amazing
Speaker 2: Italian woman ballsy, and so she will help me flesh
Speaker 2: out what I want to say.
Speaker 1: It's great to have a partner, right, a collaborator. You
Speaker 1: go do it in music, you know, they collaborate with
Speaker 1: each other all the time, and they come up with
Speaker 1: these magical things that they would not have done on
Speaker 1: their own. Having a collaborator like your Tammy.
Speaker 2: It's Tammy, and it's really important because I just got
Speaker 2: Tammy last week. But before that I had nobody. I
Speaker 2: was the only comic. So I wanted younger people to
Speaker 2: be in the room with me. Just tell me what
Speaker 2: are the cause you know, at my age, I don't
Speaker 2: look at everything. I'm not on social media all the time.
Speaker 3: I'm like, I need to go.
Speaker 2: You know, at this stage, this is when you keep
Speaker 2: hearing people say you got to go to sleep at eight.
Speaker 2: I go, what nobody told me that when I was
Speaker 2: in my twenties, Because in your twenties, you don't have
Speaker 2: to go to sleep at eight.
Speaker 3: You can go to sleep at four party and then
Speaker 3: go to work.
Speaker 1: Are you going to sleep at eight? Really? No?
Speaker 2: Probably eleven friturday. You know, you lay down and you
Speaker 2: look at the ceiling. And I keep going what they
Speaker 2: say on TikTok and social media eight o'clock, I'm supposed
Speaker 2: to get into something called my circadian rhythm, but it
Speaker 2: ain't happening. So let me get on Instagram. But about eleven,
Speaker 2: so I'm in there. So I have young people in
Speaker 2: the room with me who can give me what therap
Speaker 2: and I go, what do you think about that as
Speaker 2: a young person. So we had a topic about a
Speaker 2: young person on TikTok wanted to know what do old
Speaker 2: people do?
Speaker 3: What did they do before the Internet?
Speaker 2: And I said to the young girls, I said, we
Speaker 2: had Encyclopedia Britannica, and they didn't laugh. They just looked
Speaker 2: at me, and I said, pull up a picture of
Speaker 2: the Encyclopedia Britannicas and one girl goes, that looks like
Speaker 2: Game of Thrones. It was so funny to me.
Speaker 1: But wait a minute, what did we do before the internet?
Speaker 2: We had there was a salesman that came to your
Speaker 2: door and sold you Encyclopedia Britannica, and that's how you
Speaker 2: did your book reports.
Speaker 3: And here's the thing.
Speaker 2: My family couldn't afford the whole set, so we only
Speaker 2: bought one letter a month because they were paying on this.
Speaker 2: So I never did any book reports that started with
Speaker 2: a T. That so we did that. And then when
Speaker 2: they got the children's edition of Encyclopedia Britannica, people thought
Speaker 2: you was rich when you got that. But my daddy
Speaker 2: worked three jobs, so we had the kids edition also,
Speaker 2: I said. So I started going through of what we did.
Speaker 2: I said, we also we freaking called people and the
Speaker 2: young people were just like what And I said, your
Speaker 2: Alexis in Siri was called my anti Gloria. That was
Speaker 2: Alexis in Siri was somebody in my family who knew
Speaker 2: everything in between taking the smoke.
Speaker 3: You know, they cigarettes, They knew everything about everything.
Speaker 2: It was my uncle Earl who said at the barbershop
Speaker 2: that was Alexis. And so when I saw them laughing,
Speaker 2: and then I saw the little girl, the little young
Speaker 2: one say that those Britannicas look like the Game of Thrones, Right,
Speaker 2: I go, that's a great joke. And I said it,
Speaker 2: and everybody laughed. And so that's how I call my material.
Speaker 1: So it keeps you young anyway, I mean, it keeps
Speaker 1: you plugging.
Speaker 3: I have to hang around you because I do.
Speaker 1: At this place where I have, everyone's younger than me.
Speaker 1: Of course, everyone's younger than me everywhere I go, probably,
Speaker 1: But no, the thing that's a gift for you, Sherry,
Speaker 1: is you get to keep learning. Yes, but you're you're
Speaker 1: forced to learn, But you get to keep learning, and
Speaker 1: you don't feel like you're just old and stale and
Speaker 1: living in a closet somewhere.
Speaker 2: I think that people who don't young, And that's why
Speaker 2: I understand why a lot of times older men will
Speaker 2: get with younger women as opposed to women my agent.
Speaker 2: I know a lot of women will get on me
Speaker 2: when I say this but we come with older woman baggage.
Speaker 3: Things don't impress us like it with a young girl.
Speaker 2: Like I remember a guy came to me and he
Speaker 2: had gotten a car that the remote control rolled down
Speaker 2: the windows and the remote control started the car. And
Speaker 2: he came and he was like, Sherry, oh my god,
Speaker 2: look at this. And I go, I gotta be mw
Speaker 2: on my driveway and I got.
Speaker 3: I got this range drover. That don't impress me.
Speaker 2: But a young girl will be like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: that's so amazing. Let's take a drive down the beach. Wow,
Speaker 2: you got this is your house. I expect you, you know,
Speaker 2: And so it brings up I think younger people bring
Speaker 2: a freshness and an energy. Like if you get with
Speaker 2: me and you want to take me out about eleven o'clock,
Speaker 2: I'm getting sleepy. We're not going to another place cause
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm tired. When I go to a club,
Speaker 2: the first two things I look for is a seat
Speaker 2: in the bathroom and I'm sitting in and if it's crowded,
Speaker 2: I'm not getting up for nothing because I'm not losing
Speaker 2: my seat.
Speaker 3: Now you got a younger.
Speaker 2: Girl who's like, let's dance, let's do this. It's an energy.
Speaker 2: That's why you see these old guys and you like you,
Speaker 2: how many days you gonna party and freaking with this
Speaker 2: young girl. But here's the thing, you don't get some
Speaker 2: good conversation. But you know you're not gonna be able
Speaker 2: to sit there and go, oh my gosh when I
Speaker 2: was with doing so, because they're gonna look at you
Speaker 2: and go, who's that.
Speaker 3: It's a trade off.
Speaker 1: It's exciting for these old guys. They get to hang
Speaker 1: out at DA do things they can't do with the
Speaker 1: old age.
Speaker 2: They've never done. Do you know they can ride a motorcycle.
Speaker 2: Let my man tell me he got a motorcycle. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna be like, if you don't stop acting dumb and
Speaker 2: get off that motorcycle and get that leaf blower and
Speaker 2: blow them leaves. Get off that damn motorcycle where you
Speaker 2: hurt your back?
Speaker 1: Do you miss it? Though? Do you miss doing the
Speaker 1: clubs as a young girl? Did you do you miss
Speaker 1: those days at all?
Speaker 2: Art wish I had the energy like I go to
Speaker 2: a club. I can go to a club and dance
Speaker 2: like once every six months and it's fun. But if
Speaker 2: I had to go to a club now, Elvis I'm like, what,
Speaker 2: it's the music, so damn.
Speaker 1: Too old?
Speaker 3: Yes, I'm too old.
Speaker 2: Or when you go to restaurants, you like, can y'all
Speaker 2: turn on the lights like I'm trying to make a baby.
Speaker 2: Why I can't read my I can't read the biddle.
Speaker 2: I sound like my aunty or my mother. And I
Speaker 2: go and the kids just laugh at me. We'll be
Speaker 2: whenever they have a birthday party or whenever they get together.
Speaker 2: I go, you know, and I'm like, Auntie, I sit
Speaker 2: right in the corner. I don't move, and they all
Speaker 2: come over to me.
Speaker 3: Come on, Aunty, Cherry, Miss Sherry, let's dance.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm fine. I'm fine because I'm be
Speaker 2: in the hills all day. My feet hurt, but I
Speaker 2: like to be around them because it does give you,
Speaker 2: like some vitality.
Speaker 1: So look, I'm sure every every two weeks the agent
Speaker 1: gets your paycheck, they put it in your bank account.
Speaker 1: Everything's all cool. What other than a great job, people
Speaker 1: taking care of you, working with people you love, what
Speaker 1: do you get out of this? What are you getting
Speaker 1: out of this? Just for you?
Speaker 2: From the time I was for I love making people laugh,
Speaker 2: like I loved seeing my mother smile, and I loved
Speaker 2: seeing my grandmother smile. I've always liked people to feel better,
Speaker 2: and I've always I just knew doing everything. I've always
Speaker 2: used to dream of having my own talk show when
Speaker 2: I used to watch them when I was little, and
Speaker 2: even doing stand up. I saw Andrew Dice Clay and
Speaker 2: Eddie Griffin. That's what made me want to get in
Speaker 2: the stand up. They were on stage and I saw
Speaker 2: everybody moving as one when they laughed, just because of
Speaker 2: what Andrew and Eddie were talking about. And I said,
Speaker 2: I want to do that. I want to make people
Speaker 2: laugh and feel better. Because I was going through so much.
Speaker 2: I had a sister who was on drugs. My mother
Speaker 2: was in the hospital. She died from complications of diabetes.
Speaker 2: So I was taking care of her, trying to take
Speaker 2: care of nieces and nephews. I had a lot on me,
Speaker 2: and laughter it made me feel good being on stage.
Speaker 2: So I said, Wow, it's got to make other people
Speaker 2: feel better. And I just it's high for me to
Speaker 2: make people feel better. So when I have people coming
Speaker 2: to my show, h people coming, this is crazy. They'll
Speaker 2: have like somebody will say I have a when I
Speaker 2: go to the doctor, I watch you when I'm getting
Speaker 2: my blood transfusions or when I'm getting dialysis. There's some people.
Speaker 2: There's some people who go. You inspire me, Untie, because
Speaker 2: I'm in college. When I'm feeling like down, I look
Speaker 2: at you. That makes me keep going. That shows me
Speaker 2: that my purpose is very clear. I am to make
Speaker 2: you feel better than when you came.
Speaker 3: And we have so much going on in the world.
Speaker 2: People need laughter. I'm not talking about I am very
Speaker 2: well versed in politics. I love talking politics, but I
Speaker 2: will not do it on my show because I am there.
Speaker 3: I want you to feel good.
Speaker 2: You can get politics from anybody, whatever side you're on.
Speaker 1: That's our policy here too. We don't do it.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to do it because everybody everybody can
Speaker 2: do it. What I am I'm here for is to
Speaker 2: make you feel better.
Speaker 1: But you know what you're doing something else, Shery. I'm interrupting,
Speaker 1: but I look at the time, I want to get
Speaker 1: to some points. Here's the thing you do make people laugh.
Speaker 1: You do make people feel good. That's accomplished, done deal.
Speaker 1: But something else you do, and I kind of hit
Speaker 1: on this on our show, is you also make people
Speaker 1: want to make people laugh. You make people want to
Speaker 1: leave the room better that they found it in. It's
Speaker 1: an inspiration. I mean, you do it just by walking
Speaker 1: in your nice new boobs, your beautiful orange dress and
Speaker 1: your skirt and everything, your beautiful shoes, your smile. When
Speaker 1: you leave the studio today, you're gonna we all feel
Speaker 1: much better. But you're teaching us that it's important for
Speaker 1: us to do that too. Yeah. And what I see
Speaker 1: you talk about when you when you first hop on
Speaker 1: the show starts and you talk about you, You talk
Speaker 1: about your guests, you talk about people in the news
Speaker 1: and hot topics. I get that, But when you talk
Speaker 1: about you and the things that turn you on, things
Speaker 1: that make you feel good, it makes us want to
Speaker 1: do the same things. Never forget get that. It's a gift.
Speaker 1: I mean it truly is. I mean, I'm not here
Speaker 1: to like you know but your biscuit.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you're not.
Speaker 1: I really mean that though.
Speaker 2: But I think that's also in finding out and knowing
Speaker 2: who you are. Like I think that I just know
Speaker 2: that if I have a problem and I'm going through it,
Speaker 2: there's probably somebody in the audience that is going through
Speaker 2: the same thing. I when I say, you know my
Speaker 2: son is eighteen. So but when I talk about the
Speaker 2: fact that I'm just trying to navigate life with this
Speaker 2: son who's a teenager who doesn't even want to talk
Speaker 2: to me, there's somebody out there who's going through the
Speaker 2: same thing and they're feeling inadequate as a parent. But
Speaker 2: if they can look at me and go, Shary's going
Speaker 2: through the same thing. When I'm very honest, I think
Speaker 2: that people feel like they can relate to me.
Speaker 3: I and I you know, I like that.
Speaker 2: I know, you know, I'm a celebrity and Shearry knows
Speaker 2: a lot of people, and she's probably making some money.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I don't like to say how much because I got
Speaker 2: two ex husbands I'm paying okay, But still I want
Speaker 2: you to feel like that I am dealing with the
Speaker 2: same thing that you are dealing with. So I like
Speaker 2: to tell people, and I think those stories make people
Speaker 2: feel like, Okay, I'm not crazy over here, and it's
Speaker 2: going to be okay if I get through it with
Speaker 2: the smile. There's something I want people to know that
Speaker 2: if you can find the silver lining just a little bit,
Speaker 2: that'll take you far.
Speaker 1: Also, you know, you show such courage. This is not
Speaker 1: just you, but all of us. You're showing courage when
Speaker 1: you show vulnerability, right, And I know I love getting
Speaker 1: on the air. I love talking to people. I love
Speaker 1: asking how their day is and making them laugh whatever.
Speaker 1: And then a friend of mine once said, Elvis, are
Speaker 1: you doing this because you're trying to like heal yourself
Speaker 1: from something as a child? I said, I don't. Maybe,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Do we really have to get that
Speaker 1: fucking I know? Sure? Maybe you know I was a
Speaker 1: loner kid. I always wanted to make people laugh because
Speaker 1: I wanted the attention because I didn't really have a
Speaker 1: lot of friends. This and that. Do you ever find
Speaker 1: that sometimes when you are leaving the room better than
Speaker 1: you found it, you're also kind of healing a shary
Speaker 1: thing from back in the day. You don't have to
Speaker 1: be specific, you know what.
Speaker 2: No, I don't go through that because I feel like,
Speaker 2: if anything, it's sometimes it's harder to be more vulnerable, because,
Speaker 2: you know, because you feel like you inspire so many people.
Speaker 2: I inspire people to be healthy to take this journey,
Speaker 2: So sometimes it's harder to go. I feil and I
Speaker 2: now I am hiding her. She's kisses in my shoes
Speaker 2: and in my dressing room, and because I feel like
Speaker 2: I'm now I'm letting people down because they're so inspired
Speaker 2: to go to the gym, and this is hard for
Speaker 2: me to now share. Sometimes it's the pressure is on
Speaker 2: now that if I post something, tabloids will pick it up.
Speaker 3: Because now I want a talk show.
Speaker 2: It's a different level now that I can't just be
Speaker 2: vulnerable and do a live and go, oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: I just feel like.
Speaker 2: I don't feel good today because I know it will
Speaker 2: be on blogs and it will be on a TMZ,
Speaker 2: you know, if it's a slow news day and now
Speaker 2: it's bigger than what it was, you know, and so
Speaker 2: you lose a little bit of the So I can't
Speaker 2: work out healing. On TV, I will tell what happened
Speaker 2: to me and how I dealt with it, but I don't,
Speaker 2: and every once in a while I go, oh my gosh,
Speaker 2: I had to get this chocolate chip cookie.
Speaker 3: But it's harder for me.
Speaker 2: When I used to do Ellen Ellen, I held the
Speaker 2: record for being the most book guest on Ellen because
Speaker 2: she loved my When I was transparent, I would talk
Speaker 2: about celebrities I didn't care and Ellen loved it. And
Speaker 2: I remember she said, you can get away with that.
Speaker 2: People think I'm too nice. I can't say what you say,
Speaker 2: but I had nothing to lose, so I can say whatever.
Speaker 2: Now I understand what Ellen meant, because you know, now
Speaker 2: there's some things I can't say. The backlash I've experienced
Speaker 2: it on the view. I have to be careful. I
Speaker 2: have to censor myself a little bit because now having
Speaker 2: a talk show and you go into people's homes every day,
Speaker 2: you say things and it offends somebody. You gotta you know,
Speaker 2: and when you have the brand of being nice, some
Speaker 2: things I'm giving me very snarky. I'm sassy, but some
Speaker 2: things I go, They're not gonna be able to hear
Speaker 2: me say that because I'm nice. So it's a little
Speaker 2: bit harder now than when I was just a struggling
Speaker 2: comic because.
Speaker 3: I could care less.
Speaker 2: But now I have a child, I have bills, a bag,
Speaker 2: I got ex husbands, I got parents.
Speaker 3: I'm taking care.
Speaker 2: You have too much to lose, So I'm not as
Speaker 2: I'm not as risky as I used to be. Right,
Speaker 2: but still within this I don't talk about relationships.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I have learned that I keep that part of my
Speaker 2: life private. So I just flirt with everybody, but you know,
Speaker 2: I don't talk. I've learned my relationships. I need something
Speaker 2: that's private, that is mine.
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna start digging into a guest's relationships
Speaker 1: because you were sensitive.
Speaker 2: Second, I am because I've been I've been on the
Speaker 2: other end where I've been on talk shows and all
Speaker 2: of a sudden, I go, I don't want to talk
Speaker 2: about this, and then they grab my hand and they go,
Speaker 2: we have to talk about this, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: just got ambush. That's not right. And I know there's
Speaker 2: some a certain sector of people they want to hear that,
Speaker 2: but not for people who watch me because they know
Speaker 2: they're not going to get it with me.
Speaker 3: I'm very and I'm in this world.
Speaker 1: I am.
Speaker 2: Yes, I'm relatable, but I've been in this business for
Speaker 2: a long time, so i know what that's like when
Speaker 2: somebody comes on the show and they don't want to
Speaker 2: talk about it. And I always tell people, we're gonna
Speaker 2: have fun, like you whatever you want to talk about,
Speaker 2: and people who like me will like our conversation. I
Speaker 2: don't do sialacious. I don't want to make people feel bad.
Speaker 2: I used to watch people talk about me when I
Speaker 2: was going through divorce, and it hurt because I go,
Speaker 2: you really don't know their whole situation.
Speaker 1: It's a divorce. Why is this your topic when it's
Speaker 1: my divorce. I get that. Yeah, but we're the same
Speaker 1: way with this show here. I don't want to make
Speaker 1: people feel uncomfortable. Every once in a while, when you're
Speaker 1: booking guests, they'll say, hey, can't wait to be on
Speaker 1: your show, but here's like three things we really don't
Speaker 1: want to talk about these. I'm like, fuck you, We're
Speaker 1: not going to talk about those anyway. I would never
Speaker 1: because I want people to want to come back.
Speaker 3: You want people to come back.
Speaker 2: You want to make it a place where it's like
Speaker 2: I tell you, when I started this show, we had
Speaker 2: to have parties with publicists and I had to let
Speaker 2: them know I want your people to have a good time.
Speaker 2: I want people to leave going. I want to come
Speaker 2: back to the show because if you're having a good time,
Speaker 2: the audience is going to have a good time. And
Speaker 2: people who want to come and see the salacious you
Speaker 2: got all kinds of so you.
Speaker 1: Can go, they have other places to go for that.
Speaker 3: You can go and get that.
Speaker 2: And so I feel like, if you have fun, you'll
Speaker 2: want to come back and have fun with me. And
Speaker 2: that's how my show is going to And the day
Speaker 2: people don't want that anymore, I'm gonna go do something else.
Speaker 1: Well, no time soon. Sherry Shepherd love having you here.
Speaker 1: Thank you. And when you walked out of that room today,
Speaker 1: you did change that room because everyone's like, God, I
Speaker 1: love her, did you? Andrew was there? Daniel's like, I
Speaker 1: love her. I just fucking love her. Matt Bronkshick, I
Speaker 1: fucking love her, oh Man, and then Gandhi love her.
Speaker 1: I mean you are loved. So keep sprinkling that magic.
Speaker 3: God.
Speaker 2: Thank you for y'all because y'all are so wonderful. And
Speaker 2: it's like you get excited. When they said you're going
Speaker 2: to Elvis's show.
Speaker 3: I was so excited because it's just fun.
Speaker 2: I know I'm going to see here somebody who's gonna
Speaker 2: hit me with the something and why I get uncomfortable
Speaker 2: and I gotta pivot.
Speaker 3: NIC's just fun coming here.
Speaker 1: We won't do that, Sherry Shepherd. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3: Thank you.
Speaker 1: So many things to live by in this episode, Sherry,
Speaker 1: we love you. One of our favorite points Sherry made
Speaker 1: by the way was that laughter really is the best medicine,
Speaker 1: no doubt. To know Sherry Shepherd is to love Sherry Shepherd,
Speaker 1: and we're so proud of her and all the success
Speaker 1: of her talk show Sherry, which you can watch every weekday.
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