1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: Welcome in Monday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 4 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us. We're gonna have 5 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,880 Speaker 2: some fun, as we always do on the show, but 6 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 2: a little bit of a unique fun for the next 7 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: two weeks. I'm gonna be in our iHeart studios by 8 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 2: and large here in Washington, d C. We're gonna be 9 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,200 Speaker 2: bringing in a lot of congressman, a lot of Senators. 10 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 2: We are going to be with President Trump, Buck and 11 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 2: I in the Oval Office. We're gonna head out to 12 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 2: the Pentagon. We're gonna be at Secretary of State. We're 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 2: gonna be all over the place in DC for the 14 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: next couple of weeks. So you may have no idea 15 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,360 Speaker 2: who's gonna be on from one moment to the next, 16 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 2: but it should be really cool. We're obviously on here 17 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: in d C in Freedom one oh four point seven, 18 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: but we have awesome studios here. If you've been to 19 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: d C, just down from Ford's Theater, just down from 20 00:00:52,880 --> 00:00:55,760 Speaker 2: the Arena, right in the center of Northwest Washington, d C. 21 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 2: Just a couple of blocks away from the Capitol, just 22 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 2: a couple of blocks away from the White House. In fact, 23 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: this morning I went up to Capitol Hill because I 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,080 Speaker 2: have got my oldest son doing an internship, which is 25 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 2: the primary reason why I said, hey. 26 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: Let's go to DC for a couple of weeks. 27 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:14,560 Speaker 2: So he is up on Capitol Hill learning how the 28 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: government works, and Dad is in charge of him. Buck 29 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 2: is stuck somewhere on a tarmac, as many of you 30 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 2: are aware, at thunderstorm season, the worst time to be 31 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 2: trying to travel anywhere. 32 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: He will be back with. 33 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 2: Me tomorrow here in our DC studios, and let me 34 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 2: give you a little bit of roadmap of where we're 35 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 2: headed before I dive into this chaos in Los Angeles 36 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:40,040 Speaker 2: and why I think it's so significant. Marsha Blackburn and 37 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: Tommy Tuberville, two senators, are going to be with us 38 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 2: in studio here in the third hour, so you can 39 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,600 Speaker 2: put that on the horizon. We will also be joined 40 00:01:47,640 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 2: by Riley Gaines here at the bottom of the hour. 41 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:54,560 Speaker 2: She works at OutKick alongside of me. She is fabulous 42 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 2: and out of nowhere. Olympic gymnast Simone Biles ripped her 43 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: for being too outspoken on keeping men out of women's sports, 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 2: and so Riley is going to respond here on the 45 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 2: show to that, So that will be at the bottom 46 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: of the hour. You guys can be prepared for that. 47 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 2: But I wanted to say, first of all, hope you 48 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:20,360 Speaker 2: guys had fabulous weekends and we are going to have 49 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 2: like you can tell as I just laid out a 50 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: super pac show here on the Monday edition of the program. 51 00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 2: But many of you, alongside of certainly me, we're watching 52 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: last night as Unfortunately, we had what felt like an 53 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 2: echo of the summer of twenty twenty emerging in Los Angeles. 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: We had police cruisers on fire. We had rocks and 55 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: other projectiles being hurled at police officers. We had five 56 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:52,720 Speaker 2: different Waymo vehicles. You may remember I came on talking 57 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,399 Speaker 2: about how much I loved riding in these autonomous vehicles 58 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:00,040 Speaker 2: waymos that have taken over much of the travel in 59 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: San Francisco, in La Phoenix. I think a lot of 60 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,119 Speaker 2: you out there would be riding in them as well. 61 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 2: They're spreading across the country very quickly. I had my 62 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: oldest son with me in San Francisco. He was super 63 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 2: excited to ride in one. I loved it. They were 64 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 2: on fire, in Los Angeles and the cars were being graffited. 65 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 2: People were waving the flags of Mexico and other countries 66 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 2: as they rioted against ICE. And here's what I think 67 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 2: is going on. I think if you went back and 68 00:03:29,120 --> 00:03:31,520 Speaker 2: maybe we'll talk about this with President Trump Thursday in 69 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:33,560 Speaker 2: the Oval Office, I think one of the things that 70 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 2: Trump would say that he learned in his first term 71 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: in office was when violent protests begin, you have to nip. 72 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: Them in the bud immediately. 73 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 2: You cannot allow them to grow and spread and then 74 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 2: fester across the entire nation. And if you remember, in 75 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 2: the summer of twenty twenty, Tim Walls was the governor 76 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 2: of Minnesota responding to George Floyd. There is one hundred 77 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: percent should be one hundred percent openness for protest in 78 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: the United States. We should not ever allow violent protest. 79 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: And if you violently protest, whether you're a Democrat, Republican, independent, 80 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: whether you're a citizen or a non citizen, you should 81 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: be arrested and prosecuted, I think to the full extent 82 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: of law. And we've been pretty consistent about that. 83 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: Now. 84 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 2: That doesn't mean that you, as we saw in January sixth, 85 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 2: should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law, 86 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,400 Speaker 2: and everybody else who was involved in the BLM protest 87 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: when they were trying to basically knock the fences down 88 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 2: at the White House, if you remember that well, when 89 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 2: they were attacking police like crazy. You should have no 90 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: charges brought based on the politics there, and every charge 91 00:04:40,440 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 2: brought based on the politics of January sixth. But if 92 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,719 Speaker 2: you are going to charge everyone, regardless of political backgrounds, 93 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,279 Speaker 2: to the utmost stability for violence, I'm in favor of it. 94 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 1: I've been in favor of. 95 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: It my entire life, while also being one hundred percent 96 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 2: a First Amendment guy. I'm banned from CNN for as 97 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 2: many if you remember, for saying the only two things 98 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:03,799 Speaker 2: that have never let me down are the First Amendment 99 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,640 Speaker 2: and boobs in a eight year old viral clip that 100 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: continues to be one of the most popular clips. Every 101 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 2: few months it's circulating again, and every new generation is 102 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,479 Speaker 2: becoming aware of it in a positive way. 103 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: By the way. 104 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 2: They like it even more the younger kids do, and 105 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: I think that's because younger men in particular are over 106 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: the BS. So I think what Trump learned from the 107 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 2: first administration is you have to stop these protests and 108 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 2: not allow them to spiral and grow, particularly because this 109 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 2: is not a real protest, it's astro turfed. They bring 110 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: in professional protesters who want to riot, who want to frankly, 111 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 2: take away from whatever honest, peaceful protest is trying to 112 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: be made, and they turn many parts of American cities 113 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 2: into violent cesspools. They burn down buildings, they attack cars, 114 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:01,160 Speaker 2: they attack police. And so this is what we started 115 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: to see happen in Los Angeles last night. And before 116 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 2: I start playing some of the clips from what happened 117 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 2: last night, one bit of positivity. I have not heard 118 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 2: it talked about very much, but murder rates in this 119 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:20,479 Speaker 2: country are collapsing all over the country because Trump has 120 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 2: committed to giving police the ability to execute from a 121 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: law and order perspective. And I'm not hearing a lot 122 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: of people talk about it. And yes, murder rates do 123 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 2: go up in the summer, Frankly, I think it's because 124 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,039 Speaker 2: kids are out of school, people have more time. But 125 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 2: all over the country we are seeing twenty twenty five 126 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: crime collapse. In fact, we could have potentially the lowest 127 00:06:48,800 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 2: murder rate in the US ever recorded based on how 128 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:58,480 Speaker 2: much murder rates are collapsing in this country again. Trump 129 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 2: took office, law order has been on the upswing, and 130 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 2: we are seeing massive declines in murder rates all over 131 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 2: the country. And it's not getting a lot of attention. 132 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 2: But let me just hit you with this. Through May 133 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: of twenty twenty five from last year, just from last year, 134 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 2: murder rates in New York City down twenty seven percent. 135 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: In murder rates in Chicago down twenty four percent. Murder 136 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: rates in Saint Louis down thirty five percent, Denver sixty 137 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: three percent decline, Baltimore thirty two percent decline, Cleveland thirty 138 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: seven percent decline, New Orleans thirty one percent decline. It 139 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 2: doesn't matter what the blue city is. A little bit 140 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 2: of red state law and order being applied makes everybody safer. 141 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: It's not getting a lot of attention, but this is 142 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 2: an incredible success story. And so what Trump and his 143 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 2: team saw is they said, we're not going to allow 144 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: the chaos that happened in twenty twenty to take over 145 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 2: the country again. And sadly, the people who ended up 146 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:11,120 Speaker 2: losing the most were the people who had to deal 147 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 2: with the rates of violence overwhelmingly black and brown in 148 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 2: this country. As the BLM protest led to a decline 149 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 2: in law and order. So Trump says, hey, I'm going 150 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,280 Speaker 2: to bring in the National Guard. We're going to provide 151 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:28,800 Speaker 2: even more protection than we did in twenty twenty. 152 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: We're not going to. 153 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:35,520 Speaker 2: Allow history to repeat itself. Now, this is LA's police chief, 154 00:08:35,920 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: Jim McDonell. This is cut six last night, saying it's 155 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 2: out of control what we are seeing, the violence. 156 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: This is cut six. 157 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 3: The National Guard was federalized, so they're working for the 158 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 3: US Army, not for the California State National Guard. 159 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: Do we need them? Do we need them? 160 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 3: Well, looking at it tonight, you know this thing has 161 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 3: gotten out of control. 162 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,200 Speaker 1: What they're think? 163 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 3: Before I could answer that, I'd have to know more 164 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 3: about what their capabilities are, what their role is intended 165 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,320 Speaker 3: to be to be able to make that determination. 166 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 2: Okay, when the police chief says it's out of control, 167 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: that's a sign that probably he wants the National Guard 168 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 2: in that he doesn't feel like he has enough resources. 169 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 2: But I bet that this guy doesn't want to step 170 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 2: on Gavin Newsom, governor of California, and Karen Bass, the 171 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 2: mayor of LA, who are doing awful jobs. And here 172 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,959 Speaker 2: is Tom Homan saying, protest all you want, but if 173 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,199 Speaker 2: you touch law enforcement, it's a crime. 174 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:37,719 Speaker 1: Cut eight. 175 00:09:37,800 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 4: For those protests that cross the line. I've said many 176 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,079 Speaker 4: times you can protest, you get your first point of rights, 177 00:09:42,559 --> 00:09:44,480 Speaker 4: but when you cross that line, you put hands on 178 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 4: my soft shirt or you destroy property, I say that 179 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 4: you're a peed law enforcement or you're normally heart reconsuming 180 00:09:52,360 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: igal Halian, that's a crime, and that the compministration is 181 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 4: not what tolerant you cross that line. We want to 182 00:09:57,559 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 4: see prose excute through partner justice. 183 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 184 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 2: Police chief says violence out of control. He also says 185 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: that you just heard Tom Holman saying we're not going 186 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 2: to allow this to happen. Here is Tom Holman saying 187 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 2: the violence is escalating, getting worse, more violent. 188 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 3: Cut seven to the people who are not happy with 189 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,439 Speaker 3: the fact that ICE is in the in the community 190 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 3: doing what. 191 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: ICE does you know? 192 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 3: It's I respect ICE for being a fellow law enforcement agency. 193 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 3: They have their mission, they have their what they have 194 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 3: to do. We don't engage in that activity, but again 195 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,559 Speaker 3: we can't preclude them from doing that. 196 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 1: They have every right to do that. This violence that. 197 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 3: I've seen is disgusting, it's escalated. Now since the beginning 198 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 3: of this incident. What we saw the first night was bad. 199 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: What we've seen subsequent to that is getting increasingly worse 200 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 3: and more violent. Tonight we had individuals out there shooting 201 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,200 Speaker 3: commercial grade fireworks at our officers. 202 00:10:53,440 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: That can kill you. 203 00:10:55,320 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Trump says, look, they spit, we hit this cut one. 204 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: Listen, I have a little statement. They say, they spin, 205 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: we hit. I told them nobody's gonna spit on our 206 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: police officers. Nobody's gonna spit on our military. Okay. 207 00:11:15,240 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 2: So that is the background. Now you watch the images yourself. 208 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: There are cars burning, police cars burning. They are being 209 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 2: attacked police officers. Listen to what you heard if you 210 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:32,680 Speaker 2: were on ABC News in La. 211 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 1: This is Mark Brown. He wants you to know. 212 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: Look, this is just a lot of people who want 213 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: to have fun watching cars burn. It's not a riot. 214 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 2: This is what this dude really said on ABC News. 215 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: Listen to cut four. 216 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 5: Large group of people. It could turn very volatile if 217 00:11:49,280 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 5: you move law enforcement in there and the wrong way 218 00:11:51,760 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 5: and turn what is just a bunch of people having 219 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:59,840 Speaker 5: fun watching cars burn into a massive confrontation and altercation 220 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 5: between officers and demonstrators. 221 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 2: Excuse me a bunch of people having fun watching cars burn. 222 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 2: They're not pulling out skewers and making smores in the 223 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 2: backyard with the family. That's having fun watching a fire burn. 224 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:20,120 Speaker 2: This is attacking people all over the city. Do you 225 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 2: think those cops were, like, man, they're just having fun 226 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: watching the cars burn while molotov cocktails are raining down 227 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 2: on them from the overpass, which is what I saw 228 00:12:28,720 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 2: happening last night. Imagine you're watching ABC News. How does 229 00:12:33,440 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 2: that dude have a job. They're just having There's a 230 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 2: bunch of people having fun watching cars burn. Yeah, that's 231 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 2: kind of yeah, that's kind of what a riot is. 232 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: And also on CNN, Brian Stelter humpting himself, he wanted 233 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 2: you to know. 234 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: Most of La is fine. This is cut three of it. 235 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 2: Let me just say this too, By the way, when 236 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: la was burning, it wasn't the entire city. Do you 237 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: think people would have been happy if you come on 238 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,760 Speaker 2: and you say, hey, yeah, there's lots of people losing 239 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 2: their homes, they're burning down. Most of the city's not 240 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 2: getting hit. I live in Tornado Alley and a large 241 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 2: extent in Nashville. Tornadoes come through, they wipe out people's homes. 242 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: Do you think if I came on the day after 243 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: a tornado and I was like, Hey, just so, y'all know, 244 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 2: most of the city didn't get hit by the tornado, 245 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 2: so we don't really need to consider it a major issue. 246 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,559 Speaker 1: Of course not. But this was. 247 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:30,000 Speaker 2: Stelter on CNN saying, hey, it's really pretty isolated. 248 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: The riots cut three. 249 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,359 Speaker 6: On one level, protests are always about images, about spectacle. 250 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:38,559 Speaker 6: You might even say it's about theater, and we are 251 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 6: seeing that play out in La and I think it's 252 00:13:40,720 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 6: valuable to have that perspective as we see some of 253 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 6: these pictures, especially as we zoom out, and we recognize 254 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 6: that the unrest is isolated, is not overtaking the entire 255 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 6: city of La La is home to millions of people. 256 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,440 Speaker 6: Most of them are having a normal day here on Sunday. 257 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the tornado. 258 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 2: It just killed some people. Most people are still that hurricane. Boy, 259 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: you know, it didn't hit. 260 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 1: Most of Florida. It just hit part of Florida. 261 00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: I mean, this is crazy, but that is what they 262 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:09,079 Speaker 2: are trying to do to minimize Again, I think the 263 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: big story here is Trump one point zero and everybody 264 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 2: surrounding him saw what happened in the summer of riots 265 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 2: that led to I believe thousands of additional murders because 266 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 2: suddenly police couldn't do their job, and they are saying, 267 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 2: we're not gonna let the nation's second largest city, Los Angeles, 268 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 2: spiral out of control. By the way, a lot of 269 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 2: you in La listening to us. Now we have a 270 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: huge audience. You can weigh in and let us know 271 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 2: what you're seeing and what you think of the response 272 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 2: so far. And isn't it always interesting? Isn't always interesting 273 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 2: how the rioters, the looters and the protesters they never 274 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 2: do this when it's cold, Like they're never willing to 275 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 2: be out in the streets when it's twenty five degrees. Now, 276 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 2: I know LA's warm all the time, but it isn't 277 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 2: it amazing that they wait till the weather's perfect. It 278 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: has to be the summer. It has to be. 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What have you 329 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: been thinking as you watched the images from your city? 330 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 7: I'll tell you I was disgusted. 331 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 6: I stayed up last night. 332 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 7: I live in Calabasis, but I work all over in 333 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 7: the valley in Malibu, and tomorrow I have to go 334 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,120 Speaker 7: to UCLA and do rounds. It is pathetic. You see 335 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 7: these people at all the news stations out here. They 336 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 7: call it prote and protesting and peaceful. 337 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:03,960 Speaker 2: They even say Christ, thank you for the work you're 338 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 2: doing in the hospitals. They even call it peaceful protesting, 339 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: which is not what I saw. 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President Trump for has weighed 355 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 2: in on LA and the riots as we opened the show, 356 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 2: talking about we made a great decision sending in the 357 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 2: National Guard to deal with the violent instigated riots in California. 358 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 2: If we had not done so, Los Angeles would have 359 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:18,359 Speaker 2: been completely obliterated. The very incompetent governor quotation marks Gavin 360 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:21,639 Speaker 2: Newsom and mayor quotation marks Karen Bass should be saying 361 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 2: thank you, President Trump, you are so wonderful. We would 362 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: be nothing without you, sir. Instead, they choose to lie 363 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 2: to the people of California and America by saying we 364 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 2: weren't needed and that these were just quote, peaceful protests. 365 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 2: Just one luck at the pictures and videos of the 366 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: violence and destruction tells you all you have to know. 367 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 2: We will always do what is needed to keep our 368 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: citizens safe so we can together make America great again. 369 00:19:45,600 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 2: A woman who was trying to simply make women's sports 370 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:53,480 Speaker 2: great again by doing something crazy and saying only women 371 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 2: should be able to play in women's sports. My friend 372 00:19:56,480 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 2: Riley Gaines joins us now and we're texting quite a 373 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 2: bit over the weekend. But full disclosure, I was out 374 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 2: to dinner with my family. I had my mother in law, 375 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 2: my brother in law, and you sent me the link 376 00:20:08,359 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: and I thought. 377 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: This can't be real. 378 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 2: There's no way that Olympic gymnast Simone Biles out of 379 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 2: nowhere just decided to rip you for simply saying, hey, 380 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 2: there shouldn't be a male pitcher winning a Minnesota softball 381 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 2: women's championship state title. And I still have in disbelief 382 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:32,439 Speaker 2: that this happened. What was your reaction when you first 383 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 2: saw this when it popped up on your social media feeds. 384 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 7: Well, Clay, you were the very first person I sent 385 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 7: it to. I saw it pretty immediately, which is pretty rare. 386 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 7: I have my notifications off on X right, like things 387 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,080 Speaker 7: don't typically pop up. But I think it bypasses. 388 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 8: If someone mentions you. 389 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 7: Or retweets or quotes you and they have a certain 390 00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,919 Speaker 7: number of followers, and so I got this notification that 391 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 7: said Simone Biles has tagged you in a tweet. I was. 392 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 7: I was honestly like stars in that moment. 393 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 8: I couldn't believe it. 394 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 7: This is a woman I publicly called on prior to this, 395 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 7: maybe a year or two ago, to stand with women, 396 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,639 Speaker 7: not me personally, but to stand with the movement of 397 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 7: protecting women and girls in sports. So I click on 398 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 7: it and Clay was. It took me a minute. I 399 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 7: had to go back and forth to the profile several 400 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 7: times and make sure this was not a fake account. 401 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 7: But no, lo and behold, this was the real Simone 402 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 7: Biles calling me a bully for defending women and girls 403 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 7: in sports. Even still, just like you said, I'm in 404 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 7: total disbelief that in the year twenty twenty five, this 405 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 7: is the stance that Simone Biles has chosen to take. 406 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:44,920 Speaker 7: I think the response would have been a lot different 407 00:21:45,080 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 7: if this was in twenty twenty, twenty twenty one, maybe 408 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 7: even twenty twenty two. But to say this now, I 409 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 7: just can't, for the life of me, understand why she 410 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 7: would do this. 411 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 2: So the attack was crazy on that, But then she 412 00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 2: also came after you over your body, which is like, 413 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:09,439 Speaker 2: first of all, every all athletes have, particularly as you 414 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: become Olympic champions, sometimes bodies that are different, right, Like 415 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: Michael Phelps does not look like a normal human. It's 416 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 2: one reason why he's such an incredible swimmer. Simone Biles 417 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,560 Speaker 2: is not a quote normal sized human. It's one reason 418 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: why she can throw her body all over the place 419 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 2: in a women's gymnastics And so she's actually done body 420 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 2: positivity ads to try to make women and I think 421 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: boys too, more comfortable with their bodies. And so the 422 00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 2: first thought when she attacked you that I had was 423 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 2: Riley's like the most average and I don't mean this 424 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 2: in a negative way, but you're actually the most average 425 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: sized girl out there, right, So my first thought was, 426 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 2: I mean, there's anything wrong with like a six foot 427 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:54,880 Speaker 2: four woman or whatever you're And then I love you 428 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: made a video because my first thought was like, Riley's 429 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:02,440 Speaker 2: not even abnormally sized, but she was trying to ridicule you, 430 00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 2: and she did it claiming. 431 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: That you are male size. So that is even maybe 432 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 1: crazier than the first week she said. 433 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 7: It is by far crazier for a couple of reasons. 434 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:15,399 Speaker 7: Number one, because when she said this, right like, fully 435 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 7: someone your own size, which would ironically be a man. 436 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 7: The first thing I thought of was this is this 437 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 7: is so hilarious because she's understanding and recognizing that men 438 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 7: and women are physically, biologically categorically different, right Like, she 439 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,480 Speaker 7: just admitted that in this sease that I think was 440 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 7: meant to be an insult. But then, of course number two, yeah, 441 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 7: to come from my body. First of all, I'm five 442 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 7: foot five, I mean relatively standard. I think anyone would 443 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 7: be a giant next to someone who's like four foot eight. 444 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 7: Right What I think Simone Biles is, yeah, I'm so 445 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 7: standard sized. I'm like one hundred and thirty one hundred 446 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 7: and thirty five pounds. So it took me a while 447 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:53,439 Speaker 7: to even make sense of this. I'm like, is she 448 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 7: calling me tall? Is she saying I'm muscular? Is she 449 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 7: saying I'm like? I didn't even plate in my brain 450 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,080 Speaker 7: for a little bit. But I will tell you the 451 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:07,760 Speaker 7: response that she has received from this. I mean it's 452 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 7: it's been the number one trending thing on Twitter prior 453 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 7: to the LA riots, of course, which is just horrific 454 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 7: and an utter shame that this is happening in our country. 455 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 7: It was a number one trending thing on Twitter for 456 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 7: for I mean two days straight, even on TikTok. Every 457 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 7: TikTok video that pops up on my for you page 458 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 7: is someone coming for Simone Biles for coming for me 459 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,120 Speaker 7: and for my body. Again, a woman who has has 460 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 7: historically made a platform a larger platform for herself outside 461 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 7: of her athletic success for I mean, praising women and 462 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 7: their muscular bodies and the purpose that they can serve. 463 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 7: But nonetheless she has shown her true colors here. 464 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 8: I believe. 465 00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 7: Well. 466 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 2: I love that you posted a video with your husband Louis, 467 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 2: who is also awesome and was a swimmer at the 468 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,919 Speaker 2: University of Kentucky where he actually measured you and your 469 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:57,199 Speaker 2: slock feet. I'm presuming that was in your in the 470 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 2: front room of your home, which is where really really funny. 471 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 2: But it also, just to me epitomizes the crazy hypocrisy 472 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: of her to your point, yes, acknowledging bully someone on 473 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: your own size. Hey, there is a difference between men 474 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: and women, because that's oftentimes said, and so she's acknowledging 475 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 2: that even while she's trying. 476 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 1: To do it. So what is the motivation here? 477 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: I'm sure in some measure you set back and you're like, yes, 478 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 2: she has been thankfully obliterated by people from across the 479 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 2: athletic spectrum for what she did, Why did she do it? 480 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: Where did this come from? 481 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 7: This is what I've been trying to figure out. I've 482 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 7: seen a couple of different series, and I've actually had 483 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 7: several Team USA gymnasts, both men and women, actually tons 484 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 7: of Olympians across the board, all kinds of different sports. 485 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:54,879 Speaker 7: So every shout I will disclose any names, but several 486 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 7: have told me privately that this was an attempt to 487 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 7: put her name in the spotlight prior to a Netflix 488 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 7: docu series that is to come out called Simone. I 489 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 7: think it's called Simone Rising or something of that nature, 490 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,119 Speaker 7: which what a what a hilarious thing. Simone Bile's allegedly 491 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 7: feeling like she needs to get back into the spotlight, 492 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 7: and she does it by by criticizing me insane, So 493 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:24,320 Speaker 7: that number one could potentially be a possibility. Some people 494 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 7: are saying they don't think this was really her. This 495 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:29,120 Speaker 7: was a management company or someone who runs her her 496 00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 7: social media who posted this. Some people are. 497 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 8: Saying she's been paid to post this. 498 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 7: That now posted receipts of her linked with a certain 499 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 7: like activist based organization that's in the forty fifty million 500 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 7: dollars and she's been tied to them. 501 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,439 Speaker 8: So I have no idea. 502 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 7: I cannot again, I just can't, and with a sound mind, 503 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 7: think she did this because she actually believes it being 504 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 7: an elite gymnast. 505 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 8: I mean, you look at men's and women's gymnastics. 506 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 7: They're not even the same sport essentially, Like you have 507 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 7: palm of horse and rings on the men's. 508 00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 8: You don't have that with the women. 509 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 7: You don't have beam. Men don't compete on beam, right, 510 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:13,080 Speaker 7: Like they're totally different sports essentially. I cannot believe that 511 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 7: she actually thinks this, So I guess the motive. The 512 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,920 Speaker 7: motive is still in the up in the air. 513 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:19,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 514 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 2: And by the way, let me say this because my 515 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:25,439 Speaker 2: wife was a very good gymnast, and I think she 516 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 2: came in fifth in the state of Michigan as a senior. 517 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: That's pretty good. And she has argued for years. 518 00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 2: If men did the women's contest, men would be way 519 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 2: better at them than the women are. And to your point, Riley, 520 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 2: most women can't even do a lot of the things 521 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 2: that the men do right, like the rings, for instance, 522 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 2: most women wouldn't have the upper body strength to be 523 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,480 Speaker 2: able to do the things that men do. 524 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: There. 525 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: That's not an attack on women's gymnastics. It's just that 526 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: for people who don't do those things, men would be 527 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,480 Speaker 2: able to do, for instance, the floor teen or the 528 00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 2: vault or all these things the uneven bars better than 529 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 2: women do them because they're bigger, stronger, and faster. That 530 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 2: would translate even to gymnastics. I didn't know that. Again, 531 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 2: this is my wife analyzing it. Who does this stuff 532 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: at a high level or used to anyway, So she's 533 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 2: gotten attacked. I also think this is important. She waited 534 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 2: until her career was over. And you have talked about this. 535 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,840 Speaker 2: Meghan Rapino did the same thing, the US women's soccer player. 536 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: You have seen women retire. 537 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 2: And then say, oh, I'm fine with men going into 538 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:40,480 Speaker 2: women's sports. It's like they're yanking the ladder up. I 539 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: give credit. It's amazing. Jk Rowling. Have you ever met 540 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 2: jk Rowling? By the way, the Harry Potter author, I have. 541 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,120 Speaker 7: Never met jk Rowling. Of course, she lives overseas, but 542 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 7: we've been able to communicate back and forth on X 543 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 7: maybe some other platforms. She's incredible the way that she 544 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 7: had a racing to lose. Yes, most people think she 545 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 7: has nothing to lose because she's already. 546 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 8: Made her career. 547 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 7: She had everything to lose, yet she it didn't matter 548 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 7: to her. It still doesn't matter to her. Even she 549 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 7: came out with a pretty fiery tweet. 550 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 8: Yes, I directed towards some own Biles. 551 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 7: So she's to me a modern day civil rights heroin. 552 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 2: I love her. And to your point, I read the 553 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 2: Harry Potter books back in the day. She's a billionaire. 554 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: She had no reason to need to. She's not an 555 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 2: athlete to speak out against the trans agenda. She just 556 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: saw it as fundamentally a lie and wasn't willing to 557 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 2: continue to tell a lie. And so when you see 558 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 2: Simone Biles, Megan Rapino, your athletic career is now over 559 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: and you are fighting for your sister or other girls 560 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 2: who might come after you, for instance, to be able 561 00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: to compete only against women, isn't it uniquely awful and 562 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 2: indefensible for highly successful female athletes who made tens of 563 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,560 Speaker 2: millions of dollars off of their athletic talents to suddenly 564 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 2: come out out in favor of men and women's sports 565 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 2: when they never are going to have to compete against 566 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 2: them themselves. 567 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 7: It's the definition of pulling up the ladder behind you. 568 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 7: That's exactly what Megan Arpino has done. That's exactly what 569 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 7: Simone Biles has now done. It's why look, like I said, 570 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 7: I publicly called on It was like this little campaign 571 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 7: thing I did maybe a year a year and a 572 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 7: half two years ago at this point, where I publicly 573 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 7: called on current elite female athletes in various different sports, 574 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 7: Caitlin Clark being one of them too, to stand with 575 00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 7: women and just simply say that. 576 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 8: Men should not be in women's sports. 577 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 7: I called on Serena Williams and if you can remember 578 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 7: she said on David Letterman in twenty thirteen. I mean 579 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 7: basically she already said it, but that was before I 580 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 7: guess it was bigot, inner transphobic to say it. But 581 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 7: not a single woman, not at least the ones that 582 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 7: I've called on, have chosen to respond in any manner. 583 00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 7: I mean, it's been total silence. Crickets tried the same 584 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 7: thing with men on the other hand, but a totally 585 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,360 Speaker 7: different response. I have male athletes, people like Bronk right, 586 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 7: who come out and say, yeah, men shouldn't be one 587 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 7: of sport's easy to say that, right. Not really in 588 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 7: my fight we had several who said, you know, this 589 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 7: is kind of up to the women's handle, but yeah, 590 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 7: this is crazy. I think it speaks to, of course, 591 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 7: the physical differences that are very obvious that people can. 592 00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 8: See and observe between men and women. But even just 593 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 8: this little campaign proved that men and women are. 594 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 7: Inherently different in our characteristics and how we approach things, 595 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 7: and how women are more emotionally driven and apologetic and 596 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 7: empathetic and men are typically more assertive, and that was 597 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 7: made very clear in this campaign we did. But yeah, 598 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 7: Megan Raupino also important to mention she's not interested in men. 599 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:50,479 Speaker 7: Therefore it is unlikely. I know, she can still adopt 600 00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 7: or whatever options are out there for her and her wife, 601 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:56,719 Speaker 7: Sue Bird, But Megan Repina's not gonna have kids, so 602 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 7: for her, she has nothing on the line right, Like, 603 00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,680 Speaker 7: she's done with her career. 604 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 8: She's not gonna have a daughter of her own. She 605 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:01,640 Speaker 8: doesn't care. 606 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 7: It's totally an attempt to virtue signal to be seen 607 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 7: as this this inclusive figure for all, but in reality, 608 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 7: what you're doing is being exclusive to women. 609 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: You have been so outspokenect to Riley Gaines, how much 610 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: do you let me mention this because I think people 611 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: might have missed it. But you had a man win 612 00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 2: two different women's track titles in California. You had a 613 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 2: man win in Washington. The impetus for Simone Bile's reaction 614 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: here was a man was the star pitcher on a 615 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 2: Minnesota softball state champion team, and I think the initial 616 00:32:39,240 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 2: comment that she was responding to was you sharing the 617 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 2: fact that in Minnesota they had turned the comments off 618 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 2: on the team photo which showed the boy way taller 619 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:53,200 Speaker 2: than everybody else on the on the team. How much 620 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 2: do you think the conversation has changed as oh, this 621 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 2: never happens when you got California, watch Washington, and Minnesota 622 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: all in the space of basically a week with state 623 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 2: championships being won by men pretending to be women. 624 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 7: Yeah, well, important to mention just last week, as you said, 625 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 7: this happened in five states Minnesota, California, Washington, Oregon, and 626 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 7: Maine where boys soul state qualifying spots State championships or 627 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 7: podium spots from I mean deserving hard working girls, so 628 00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 7: five blue states that you, I mean, the whole it 629 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,960 Speaker 7: doesn't really happen argument. It can't stand at all when 630 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 7: it continues to happen. But that's the classic progression of 631 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 7: these issues is well, it doesn't happen, so we don't 632 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 7: have to worry about it. You know, you're looking for 633 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:46,040 Speaker 7: a solution in search of a problem. That that's step one, right, 634 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 7: I think that. 635 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 8: Was when I was competing. That was twenty twenty two. 636 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 7: It never really happens. Then it slowly shifts to you, Okay, 637 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,840 Speaker 7: well it is happening, but it's not happening a lot, 638 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 7: therefore we shouldn't be concerned about this. Then it progresses too, Okay, 639 00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 7: well it's happening, and here's why. It's a good thing 640 00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 7: that it's happening. And then I think the final stage 641 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 7: of it is it's happening. It's a good thing, and 642 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 7: you're going to accept it or else. Again, That's that's 643 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 7: the classic progression, not just with this issue, but a 644 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 7: lot of these fringe cultural issues. That's why now you're 645 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 7: seeing what's happening in La happen. 646 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:19,080 Speaker 8: It's it's the same. 647 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,959 Speaker 7: Progression, but now the whole it's not really happening thing. 648 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 7: It just doesn't stand. And to acknowledge how the public 649 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 7: has has shifted to this again, look at. 650 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 8: Simon Bile's comments section. 651 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,080 Speaker 7: Go on Instagram, go on Twitter, go on on any 652 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 7: article that's being posted, go on TikTok, and she is 653 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 7: getting absolutely demolished, to the point where I almost feel 654 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,319 Speaker 7: bad for her, like I really do have real these 655 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,280 Speaker 7: comments and like, oh my gosh, Like I was prepared 656 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 7: when I got that notification Clay on my phone for that. 657 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 8: Onslought of hatred to come towards. 658 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:52,319 Speaker 7: Me, Like I was like, oh gosh, like she's going 659 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 7: to send all of her little little you know, minion 660 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,399 Speaker 7: people who follow her over to my page. That is 661 00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 7: not at all what has happened. I hadn't read a 662 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 7: sing negative comment about myself following this this interaction. But 663 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 7: you compare that to twenty twenty two totally different response 664 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,760 Speaker 7: from the public. 665 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: Riley, keep up the fight. 666 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 2: I appreciate you making time for us today and boy, 667 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,919 Speaker 2: who knows what's next, but every day is a wild card, 668 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: and some own Biles stepped in it in a big way. 669 00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:25,400 Speaker 2: Love your response and thanks for coming on with us. 670 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: I think we may have. 671 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,480 Speaker 2: Lost her there at the end, but I promised that 672 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 2: she likes all of you, and she was excited to 673 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 2: talk to you. 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