WEBVTT - Trump vs. Harvard, plus Tesla Terrorist Released from Jail BECAUSE He's Transgender

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome in is verdict with Center Ted Cruz, Ben Ferguson

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<v Speaker 1>with you. It's so nice to have you with us

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<v Speaker 1>on this Monday morning, and Center Harvard sure is making

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<v Speaker 1>you proud right now.

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<v Speaker 2>It really is extraordinary. President Trump has publicly announced that

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<v Speaker 2>the administration is going to end Harvard's tax exempt status.

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<v Speaker 2>This administration is going to war with the nation's oldest

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<v Speaker 2>and most prestigious university. The stakes are massive. They're tens

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<v Speaker 2>of billions of dollars. The stakes are cana University getting

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<v Speaker 2>federal funds discriminate based on race? Can they promote anti Semitism?

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<v Speaker 2>The establishment will roar back mightily. It's going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a serious legal fight. We're going to break down what's

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<v Speaker 2>likely to play out, what the basis is of what

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<v Speaker 2>the administration is doing, and what the risks are of

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<v Speaker 2>what the administration is doing. We're also going to break

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<v Speaker 2>down a really amazing story we've covered previously elon derangement

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<v Speaker 2>syndrome and how it's led to domestic terrorism fire bombing

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<v Speaker 2>of Tesla factories. Well, we now see a story where

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<v Speaker 2>elon derangement syndrome is merging with just out of control

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<v Speaker 2>wokeness and one of these domestic terrorists that fire bombed

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<v Speaker 2>a Tesla dealership has been released from federal custody. Why

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<v Speaker 2>is that because the terrorist is transgender and the judge ruled, well,

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<v Speaker 2>the the the gender transition treatment was more important than

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<v Speaker 2>punishing domestic terrorists, so you got to let them out

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<v Speaker 2>of jail. It really is astonishing. We're gonna walk you

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<v Speaker 2>through those facts as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is amazing to see what you can get you

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<v Speaker 1>to jail if I ever get arrested. I'm just letting

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<v Speaker 1>you guys know I'm gonna identify as a chick, So

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<v Speaker 1>just want to get that on the record.

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<v Speaker 3>You can use it America, and.

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<v Speaker 2>I, for one find I, for one, find that very plausible. Ben.

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<v Speaker 3>I think you.

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<v Speaker 2>Look cute, cute and tennis skirts.

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<v Speaker 3>Just wait, if you ever get arrested. I'm just saying

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<v Speaker 3>there's a good chance you'll do it too. If this

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<v Speaker 3>is how the system's.

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<v Speaker 1>Gonna Martina Ferguson, that's right, Martina Ferguson, I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>let's get into this issue with Harvard. Donald Trump calls

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<v Speaker 1>to remove Harvard's tax exempt status. Let's explain exactly why

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<v Speaker 1>he's saying that and what made this all become such

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<v Speaker 1>a big deal so quickly.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Harvard is the oldest university of Ameria, was founded

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<v Speaker 2>in sixteen thirty six. It is the wealthiest university in America.

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<v Speaker 2>It has a fifty three billion dollar endowment, and for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time it's been the most prestigious university in America.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think President Trump is exactly right going after

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard because it is it is the birthplace of woke.

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<v Speaker 2>As you know my last book, Unwoke, How to Defeat

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<v Speaker 2>Cultural Marxism in America, I describe colleges and universities, and

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<v Speaker 2>especially Harvard, as the Wuhan lab of the woke virus.

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<v Speaker 2>It's where it was invented, it's where it mutated, and

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<v Speaker 2>it's where it's spread. Now going after Harvard and denying

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<v Speaker 2>them their tax Execs exempt status, what does that mean?

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<v Speaker 2>If they're five oh one C three status is revoked,

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<v Speaker 2>it means Harvard pays taxes just like a for profit institution.

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<v Speaker 2>It also means contributions to Harvard are no longer tax deductible,

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<v Speaker 2>So if you give money to Harvard, you can't deduct

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<v Speaker 2>them from your taxes. Both of those are a huge,

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<v Speaker 2>huge deal. If that happens. If the Trump administrations follows through,

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard will litigate, They will go to court, and this

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<v Speaker 2>will be a battle that will go to the US

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court. And on one level, the Trump administration's legal

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<v Speaker 2>arguments are very strong, But at another level, it's an

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<v Speaker 2>uphill fight given who the Supreme Court is. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>going to break down both pieces of that. Why is

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<v Speaker 2>the legal argument strong? Well, i'll tell you the case

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<v Speaker 2>that would be front and center if this goes to

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<v Speaker 2>the court is a case called Bob Jones University versus

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<v Speaker 2>United States, and it was decided by the Supreme Court

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen eighty three. And what happened in nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>three is the IRS revoked the five OZHO one C

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<v Speaker 2>three status of Bob Jones University because Bob Jones University

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<v Speaker 2>had a policy that prohibited interracial dating. There was another school,

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<v Speaker 2>Goldsborough Christian Schools, that had a racially discriminatory admissions policy,

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<v Speaker 2>and likewise, the IRS revoked Goldsborough's five O one C

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<v Speaker 2>three exception. That case went all the way to the

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<v Speaker 2>Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court ruled eight to one

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<v Speaker 2>that the IRS could revoke the five oh one C

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<v Speaker 2>three exception, and they did so by concluding that it

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<v Speaker 2>was contrary to public policy to promote racial discrimination. Was

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<v Speaker 2>contrary to public policy objectives in the United States, and

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<v Speaker 2>that will be the basis. It was eight to one.

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<v Speaker 2>Chief Justice Burger wrote the majority opinion. There was only

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<v Speaker 2>one discent. The dissent was William Renquist who wrote a

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<v Speaker 2>dissent and said, look, under the terms of five oh

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<v Speaker 2>one C three, under the statute. They don't specify whether

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<v Speaker 2>the purposes are good or bad, and so we shouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>allow them to do that. But eight justices said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>yes we should, and that's what we do. That will

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<v Speaker 2>be the basis. Now under that case, Harvard has a

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<v Speaker 2>real difficult time, and it has a real difficult time

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<v Speaker 2>because it has for a long time openly and brazenly

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<v Speaker 2>discriminated based on race, and it is also openly and

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<v Speaker 2>brazenly created an environment that that discriminates against Jewish students

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<v Speaker 2>and promotes anti Semitism. Both of those are huge, huge

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<v Speaker 2>factual problems. And the facts, particularly at Harvard, that there

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<v Speaker 2>was just a scathing report on anti Semitism that that

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<v Speaker 2>walk through the incredible pattern of anti semitism, that that

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard has promoted, welcomed, and used to persecute Jewish students,

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<v Speaker 2>and that on the face of it, is contrary to

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<v Speaker 2>federal civil rights laws. And so the Trump administration's legal

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<v Speaker 2>argument on the merits is quite strong.

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<v Speaker 1>You look at the illegal arguments here, and there's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people that are going to just be angry

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<v Speaker 1>about the story itself and the fact that your reward

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<v Speaker 1>people for going after Jewish students I mean, how is

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<v Speaker 1>this not an award to the student by saying, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're sanctioning what you did. We know you're taking a

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<v Speaker 1>bag wrap, but hey, here's a bunch of money for

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<v Speaker 1>you to go ahead and say we're behind you. That

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<v Speaker 1>seems to be what the university is saying. Otherwise, why

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<v Speaker 1>on earth would you give this cash?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Look, and there are twin issues here. The Trump

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<v Speaker 2>administration has already cut two billion dollars frozen two billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollars in direct federal funds that it was sending to Harvard.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a big deal. The five oh one C three

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<v Speaker 2>status is an even bigger deal. And so both of those.

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<v Speaker 2>The basic principle is, if if a university is violating

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<v Speaker 2>federal civil rights law, if they're discriminating base on race,

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<v Speaker 2>if they are discriminating against Jewish students, if they're discriminating

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<v Speaker 2>against Anglo students, if they're discriminating against Asian students, all

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<v Speaker 2>of which Harvard has been doing, why should the federal

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<v Speaker 2>government be giving them money? And why should they get

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<v Speaker 2>a special benefit of to the tax laws. Now, why

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<v Speaker 2>is it that I say this is an uphill fight?

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<v Speaker 2>Because the Supreme Court is an institution that is elite,

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<v Speaker 2>and that is very much birthed of the establishment. Let

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<v Speaker 2>me ask you, Ben, of the nine Supreme Court justices,

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<v Speaker 2>how many of them do you think went to Ivy

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<v Speaker 2>League schools.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go with eight of the nine, you

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<v Speaker 3>would be correct.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight. How many went to Harvard Law School?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I finally got one right? Because this is what

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<v Speaker 1>you doing this show? If you're new and I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>He likes to haze me every episode with something he

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<v Speaker 1>knows I don't know the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>To, and I just well, you just got it right

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<v Speaker 2>in this moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Eight out of eight, and I'm one for a thousand

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<v Speaker 1>right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, let's keep going. How many do you think went

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<v Speaker 2>to Harvard Law School.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go with seven out of nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Four four went to Harvard Law School, four went to

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<v Speaker 2>Yale Law School. Of the eight justices, of the eight

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<v Speaker 2>justices for or went to Harvard Law School, four went

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<v Speaker 2>to Yale Law School. Of the eighteen degrees they have

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<v Speaker 2>college degrees and law degrees. Of the eighteen degrees, how

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<v Speaker 2>many of them do you think are Ivy League degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna guess nine out of.

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<v Speaker 2>Nine, fifteen, fifteen out of eighteen. The only one that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't have an IVY League Okay, yeah, the only one

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<v Speaker 2>that doesn't have an IVY League degree is Amy Cony Barrett,

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<v Speaker 2>who went to Rhodes College in Notre Dame. But if

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<v Speaker 2>you look at it, this is an institution that is steeped,

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<v Speaker 2>steeped in Harvard, and the institution in fact, Elana Kagan

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<v Speaker 2>was the former dean of the Harvard Law School. And

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<v Speaker 2>so I think they are going to be highly resistant

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<v Speaker 2>to the notion that Harvard's five oh one C three

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<v Speaker 2>status can be revoked. And I will tell you they're

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<v Speaker 2>also going to be concerned about the slippery slope of

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<v Speaker 2>what happens with the next administration.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So center, here's the question that I think

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people listening are going to want me

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<v Speaker 1>to ask, and that is it sounds like this would

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<v Speaker 1>be much of an uphill battle for the president. I

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<v Speaker 1>think he probably knows that, as staff does. But is

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<v Speaker 1>this also as much about sending a message to other

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<v Speaker 1>universities that if you think that we're going to turn

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<v Speaker 1>a blind eye to this, you're wrong and we're going.

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<v Speaker 3>To be watching you closely.

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<v Speaker 2>Of course it is. Look, Harvard is the big Kahuna,

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<v Speaker 2>And so going after Harvard is meant to send a

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<v Speaker 2>message to every other school that violating the civil Rights law.

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<v Speaker 2>Discriminating base on race, discriminating against students on their skin color,

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<v Speaker 2>on their race, on their religion, is contrary to federal law,

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<v Speaker 2>and there will be real consequences you look. For example,

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard just released a scathing report on anti Semitism on campus,

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<v Speaker 2>and it found that politicized instruction in four Harvard schools

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<v Speaker 2>had quote mainstreamed and normalized what many Jewish and Israeli

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<v Speaker 2>students experience as anti semitism. Schools were the Graduate School

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<v Speaker 2>of Education, the thh Chan School of Public Health, the

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<v Speaker 2>Divinity School because of course, if you're studying divinity, you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be a racist, and the Medical School, all

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<v Speaker 2>of which have been targeted by the Trump administration for

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<v Speaker 2>quote egregious records of anti Semitism or other bias. And

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<v Speaker 2>the report concluded that at those schools, Jewish students and

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli students were routinely ostracized and subject to instruction quote

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<v Speaker 2>that effectively made a specific view on the Israel Hamas

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<v Speaker 2>conflict a litmus test for full classroom participation. And let

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<v Speaker 2>me give you one example that's just an amazing thing.

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<v Speaker 2>A required school course in the School of Education taught

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<v Speaker 2>something called the Pyramid of White Supremacy. And this document

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<v Speaker 2>is really it's a chart. You look at it on

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<v Speaker 2>Twitter or online, it'll blow your mind. But it's a

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<v Speaker 2>pyramid of white supremacy. And here are all the things

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<v Speaker 2>that it's describing as white supremacy. At the top is

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<v Speaker 2>the KKK. Okay, we're agreed. KKK very bad. I'm against lynching, terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm against burning crosses, very very bad, racial slurs, jokes, terrible,

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<v Speaker 2>hate crimes, terrible, anti semitism, kind of interesting, bombing black churches,

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese incarceration, Operation Wetback. Now Operation Wetback was an Eisenhower

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<v Speaker 2>federal government program deporting illegal aliens, so that is now

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<v Speaker 2>white supremacy to deport illegal aliens. And the Muslim Ban,

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<v Speaker 2>which was President Trump's policy in the first term. That

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<v Speaker 2>was restricting immigration from countries with high percentages of radical

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<v Speaker 2>Islamic terrorism. All right, So that's the first part of

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<v Speaker 2>the triangle. You could agree with some of it, you

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<v Speaker 2>can dis agree with some of it, but then it

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<v Speaker 2>starts to get really looney. You know what, The next

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<v Speaker 2>one listed is what is that? The Anti Defamation League,

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<v Speaker 2>the ADL. The Anti Defamation League exists to fight against

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<v Speaker 2>anti Semites. So the Anti Defamation League is, according to

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<v Speaker 2>these radicals, an example of white supremacy. What's the next one?

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<v Speaker 2>All lives matter? So if you say all lives matter,

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<v Speaker 2>that's white supremacy. See, you know what the next one is.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna love the next one.

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<v Speaker 3>What's that one?

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<v Speaker 2>Maga?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, of course you got to add that one to

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<v Speaker 3>the list. That just make.

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<v Speaker 2>America great again? Is white supremacy. This was Harvard's teaching.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to just go through some of the more

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<v Speaker 2>of these illegal aliens. That's white supremacy. Thugs read a redlining,

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<v Speaker 2>Whussein Obama, Confederate symbols, life after hate, CVE, welfare queens,

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<v Speaker 2>the war on drugs. If you're opposed to illegal drugs,

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<v Speaker 2>that's white reverse racism, anti affirmative action, anti BDS. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you are opposed to boycotting, divesting, and sanctioning Israel,

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<v Speaker 2>then you're a bigot, black identity extremist community policeman. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what else is white supremacy?

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<v Speaker 1>I can't wait, like King Donald Trump or Ronald Reagan

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<v Speaker 1>or Ted Cruz.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go with one of those three.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, those are all clearly on their charter. They don't

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<v Speaker 2>specify it. Although MAGA was up right up top color blindness. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>mind you, that is literally what doctor Martin Luther King

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<v Speaker 2>said on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial that we

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<v Speaker 2>want a nation where people can be judged by the

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<v Speaker 2>content of their character and not the color of their skin.

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<v Speaker 2>But according to these radicals, Martin Luther King is apparently

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<v Speaker 2>a white supremacist.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like a food pyramid for hating conservatives, isn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It It is.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to give you some other examples. Mass incarceration,

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<v Speaker 2>tsa random searches, police apologists. So if you defend the police,

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<v Speaker 2>you're a white supremacist. US military rescue operations, stop in

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<v Speaker 2>fit frisk, the myth of meritocracy. Understand, if you believe

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<v Speaker 2>in merit these lunatics say that is racist English only

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<v Speaker 2>the school to prison pipeline, victim blaming anti Kaepernick, So

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<v Speaker 2>if you don't like Colin Kaepernick taking a knee during

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<v Speaker 2>the national anthem, you are a white supremacist. Columbus Day,

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<v Speaker 2>mind you, it is a federal holiday, but never mind that,

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<v Speaker 2>And then it gets to the bottom of the pyramid

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<v Speaker 2>and it lists things like settler colonialism, slavery, Wall Street,

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<v Speaker 2>the Great Recession, corporate interests, the stock market, greed, NAFTA.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you know?

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<v Speaker 2>NAFTA is white supremacy. According to the start outsourcing, McCarthy

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<v Speaker 2>is a migrant workers manifest destiny, the very settlement of America.

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<v Speaker 2>Oil pipelines are white supremacy. The war on terror, and

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<v Speaker 2>the corporate media are all white supremacy. This is whack

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<v Speaker 2>of doodle stuff. And this is taught in a required

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<v Speaker 2>course in the Harvard Education School.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's talk about the mindset of Harvard for a second.

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<v Speaker 1>In these other universities, it does seem pretty clear that

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<v Speaker 1>they believe that they're never going to be touched, and

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<v Speaker 1>even if they are, their endowments are so big that

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<v Speaker 1>they think they're probably going to be just fine and

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<v Speaker 1>liberals will continue to give. Does that not go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the point the presidents bring up, which is why

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<v Speaker 1>the hell are we giving all of these places this money.

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<v Speaker 3>They're fine on their own.

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<v Speaker 1>They're acting like they don't need us, that they are

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<v Speaker 1>hardcore against conservative and others that don't basically go with

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<v Speaker 1>this pyramid of hate of conservative ideals. So let's just

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<v Speaker 1>decouple and say you guys, do you and we'll keep

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<v Speaker 1>our tax towers.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, look, there's real value to that.

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<v Speaker 2>I will say that there is research money that is

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<v Speaker 2>spent in colleges and universities that is worthwhile, that is useful.

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<v Speaker 2>There's scientific research. There's research, say at medical schools, where

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<v Speaker 2>you're trying to research the cure for cancer, you're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to research a cure for Alzheimer's, you're trying to cure

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<v Speaker 2>deadly diseases. There is scientific research that the Department of

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<v Speaker 2>Defense pays for, for example, that is developing high tech

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<v Speaker 2>lasers or other equipment that has significant defense needs. And

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<v Speaker 2>so there is a role for scientific research. And much

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<v Speaker 2>of the scientific research that happens in our nation happens

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<v Speaker 2>in research universities. All of that would be fine if,

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<v Speaker 2>and this is a big if universities were not flagrantly

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<v Speaker 2>violating federal civil rights laws. Let me give you more.

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<v Speaker 2>This report at Harvard, at the Divinity School, Jewish students

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<v Speaker 2>were subject to quote the embrace of a pedagogy of desionization,

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<v Speaker 2>in which instructors attribute to Jews to great sins, first

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<v Speaker 2>in the levant the establishment of the state of Israel

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<v Speaker 2>and the Palestinian Nakba, and second in the United States

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<v Speaker 2>participation in white supremacy. So the Harvard Divinity School teaches

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<v Speaker 2>Jews the existence of the State of Israel is racist,

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<v Speaker 2>and Jews also they teach are white supremacist. That is

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<v Speaker 2>flagrantly in violation of federal civil rights laws. And sadly

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<v Speaker 2>it is it is something that Harvard openly and brains.

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<v Speaker 1>As they fight this final question, is there an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>through this legal challenge for us to even be able

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<v Speaker 1>to find out more about what Harvard is doing? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that part of what could happen in the upside here

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<v Speaker 1>is Hey, we get to ask more questions, we get

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<v Speaker 1>to see more behind the books, we get to see

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<v Speaker 1>more of the propaganda that we were talking about right now.

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<v Speaker 2>That is absolutely right, and I'm going to say the

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<v Speaker 2>facts are going to get worse and worse as they

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<v Speaker 2>come out. Harvard doesn't want people to know the facts. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, there were a whole series of stories that

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<v Speaker 2>came out about the Harvard Law Review. Now, now, what

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<v Speaker 2>is the Harvard Law Review. The Harvard Law Review is

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<v Speaker 2>a legal journal that's at Harvard Law School that has

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<v Speaker 2>eighty students who are student editors, and getting on the

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<v Speaker 2>Law Review is incredibly prestigious. It is incredibly difficult to do.

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<v Speaker 2>Typical Harvard Law School classes about five hundred and sixty people,

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<v Speaker 2>so you have about forty people out of five sixty

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<v Speaker 2>that make it on the class make it on the

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<v Speaker 2>Law Review. When I was there, I was on the

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<v Speaker 2>Law Review. When I was there, roughly half of the

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<v Speaker 2>editors on the Law Review made it from a combination

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<v Speaker 2>of grades and a week long, incredibly arduous writing competition.

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<v Speaker 2>Another roughly half made it from purely the writing competition.

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<v Speaker 2>But when I say roughly half, at the time it

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<v Speaker 2>was thirty two where grades in writing, thirty two were

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<v Speaker 2>just writing and then eight were reserved for affirmative action.

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<v Speaker 2>That's when I was there. Now, by all appearances, it

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<v Speaker 2>has gotten much worse. It was brazen then, It was

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<v Speaker 2>racially discriminatory then, but it is now much worse. The

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<v Speaker 2>Harvard Law Review now uses race explicitly to number one

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<v Speaker 2>select their editors. And by the way, becoming an editor

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<v Speaker 2>at the Law Review increases your chances of getting a

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<v Speaker 2>judicial clerkship dramatically increases your chances of getting a Supreme

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<v Speaker 2>Court clerkship dramatically, increases your chances of getting hired by

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<v Speaker 2>a big, prestigious law firm that pays lots of money,

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<v Speaker 2>increases your chances of becoming a professor at a prestigious

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<v Speaker 2>university dramatically. So the Law Review is a major gateway

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<v Speaker 2>to elite success in the legal world, and the Harvard

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<v Speaker 2>Law Review now in writing, they are quite open in

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<v Speaker 2>saying that that they will discriminate for editors based on race,

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<v Speaker 2>and they will also discriminate on the articles they pick. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, in a twenty twenty four memo, one journal

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<v Speaker 2>article argue that the fact that the author was quote

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<v Speaker 2>not from an underrepresented background was a negative when it

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<v Speaker 2>came to evaluating the piece for publication. There is a

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<v Speaker 2>quote holistic Review Committee which now selects nearly half the

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<v Speaker 2>student editors and has made the inclusion of quote underrepresented

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<v Speaker 2>groups its first priority. Violates Title six.

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<v Speaker 1>So to be clear, you're saying there's a chance now

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<v Speaker 1>now that if you were at Harvard you wouldn't get picked.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that what you're telling me?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I don't know, and you don't know, So

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<v Speaker 2>I say that what's interesting about it is you genuinely

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. Is one of the things that they're very

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<v Speaker 2>clever in how they discriminate because you don't know on

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<v Speaker 2>what basis you were admitted. I had the grades to

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<v Speaker 2>get in on grades, and I think I did well

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<v Speaker 2>in the writing competition, but I have no idea which

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<v Speaker 2>of the slots I was in, because nobody does. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't tell you. They just announced the forty editors that

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<v Speaker 2>have gotten in, so I don't know. But I'll tell

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<v Speaker 2>you a story I've told before. So what I was

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<v Speaker 2>on the law review. There were a number of conservative editors,

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<v Speaker 2>and we made a run at ending affirmative action in

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<v Speaker 2>the law of you. And I have to admit I

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<v Speaker 2>sat back there was we were all eighty of us

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<v Speaker 2>were gathered in a classroom and we were debating this,

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<v Speaker 2>and there were some other students that were really kind

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<v Speaker 2>of leading the charge, some other conservatives. I agreed with them,

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<v Speaker 2>but I also could count votes, and out of the

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<v Speaker 2>eighty students, there were maybe eight or ten of us

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<v Speaker 2>that were conservatives. We were a tiny minority. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, look, we ain't going to win the vote,

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<v Speaker 2>but all right, this is fine, Let's have the debate.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're having the debate, and I was sitting in

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<v Speaker 2>the back. It was fairly quiet, and I remember this

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<v Speaker 2>one supercilious liberal stood up and said, if we eliminate

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<v Speaker 2>affirmative action, the Harvard Law Review will be nothing but

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<v Speaker 2>white men. And I have to admit I was kind

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<v Speaker 2>of a little bit checked out in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>the room and I heard that, and that pissed me off.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, you know what, you want to understand

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<v Speaker 2>why affirmative action is so insidious. The arrogance of that

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<v Speaker 2>imbecile just showed it. His belief, as an enlightened leftist

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<v Speaker 2>is that if merit were the only criterion, only white

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<v Speaker 2>men would get in, that no one who is African

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<v Speaker 2>American would get in. Who is Hispanic? And let's be clear,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm Hispanic. He's sitting there. And in fact I told him,

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<v Speaker 2>I said, all right, hey guy, you want to pull

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<v Speaker 2>your transcript out in my transcript and drop him on

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<v Speaker 2>the table right there, Let's see what pure merit produces.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was something even more dripping in his leftist condescension,

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<v Speaker 2>which is, at the time, the Harvard affirmative Action program

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<v Speaker 2>did not include gender, so there was not affirmative action

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<v Speaker 2>for women. And I said to all the women editors,

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<v Speaker 2>do you hear what he just said to you? He

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<v Speaker 2>believes if it's pure merit, no women would make it.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, historically all the women editors who

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<v Speaker 2>are liberals voted against adding gender to affirmative action because

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<v Speaker 2>they recognized that if it was added to it that

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<v Speaker 2>that people it would devalue what they had accomplished. But

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<v Speaker 2>it showed just the absolute arrogance of the left when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to embracing racism, because at the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, they that they look down on the poor,

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<v Speaker 2>benighted people that will only succeed in life with their beneficence.

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<v Speaker 2>And by the way, the price for that beneficence is

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<v Speaker 2>for them to be loyal and obedient for the rest

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<v Speaker 2>of their lives. I mean, that is the very explicit

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<v Speaker 2>left wing charter the affirmative action.

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<v Speaker 1>Is based on, which brings us to another story where

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff started on college campuses and now it's made

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<v Speaker 1>our way into courtrooms. The Tesla Arson suspect one of them.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a lot of mo out there, right, but

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<v Speaker 1>this one specifically, and we'll get to the story of

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<v Speaker 1>what happened here in a second, but has been quote

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<v Speaker 1>released because of gender transition, would be at risk if

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't release. So if you're going to jail, just

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<v Speaker 1>say you're doing a gender transition and apparently then the

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<v Speaker 1>law cannot hold you accountable for your terrorist actions.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's an individual named Owen McIntyre who was on

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<v Speaker 2>spring break in Missouri and he firebombed two Tesla's cyber trucks.

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<v Speaker 2>He threw molotovails, he fire bombed it. He got caught,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was charged charged with domestic terrorism. And then

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<v Speaker 2>what happened is his federal public defender argued that going

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<v Speaker 2>to jail will disrupt his gender affirming medical care, which

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<v Speaker 2>began in March of this year. It is likely to

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<v Speaker 2>be interrupted or terminated entirely if he remains in pre

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<v Speaker 2>trial detention. And the federal magistrate judge bought that argument

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<v Speaker 2>and let him go. And let me say one of

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<v Speaker 2>the craziest things about this story. You and I Ben

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<v Speaker 2>spent twenty minutes trying to figure out if this defendant

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<v Speaker 2>is male or female.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, and the pride, he's not lying, I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be clear about that. We literally are googling

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<v Speaker 1>everything is a dude is a chick. If we don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what it is like, that's the insanity of the

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<v Speaker 1>where we live.

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<v Speaker 2>And we can't tell. And you and I actually disagree.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think this is a person who was born

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<v Speaker 2>female who has decided that she is a he and

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<v Speaker 2>wants to be a man.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And the reason I think that. The reason I think

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<v Speaker 2>that is we've googled it, and every damn story uses

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<v Speaker 2>he he he he he and and given the insane

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<v Speaker 2>Orwellian world we live in, I think if ABC is

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<v Speaker 2>referring to this person as a he and and the

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<v Speaker 2>person is transgender, that that to me means the person

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<v Speaker 2>was born as she. Now your argument is, Ben.

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<v Speaker 3>This is a dude that grew in his hair. It

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<v Speaker 3>looks like a chick.

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<v Speaker 2>Then why does all the media refer to this person

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<v Speaker 2>as a he?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually because I think everybody's lost their damn minds,

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I think, And I think I mean, and

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that we even are at the point where

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<v Speaker 1>we have to have this discussion tells you how insane

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<v Speaker 1>the world is.

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<v Speaker 2>You Literally, every story I clicked on, I googled it

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<v Speaker 2>and clicked on story after story, and there's not one

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<v Speaker 2>that actually describes the facts one way or the other,

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<v Speaker 2>So damned if I know. But either way, look, the

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<v Speaker 2>federal prosecutors argue this person is a domestic terrorist, that

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<v Speaker 2>they're throwing molotov cocktails, and it is. It is woke

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<v Speaker 2>politics taken to the level of insanity, that that to

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<v Speaker 2>get a sex change treatment is now reason to be

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<v Speaker 2>forgiven for domestic terrorism. Allthough, to be fair, it's not forgiven.

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<v Speaker 2>It's released from pre trial attention, but it is still insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, but it's it's helping you, right, it's helping you

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<v Speaker 1>not be held accountable for your actions. And it's also

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<v Speaker 1>I think pretty clear that we're saying, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to not be held accountable for your actions.

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<v Speaker 3>Just claim something that's woke.

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<v Speaker 1>And these radical judges will be like, oh, we totally understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just change the rules for you because you're in

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<v Speaker 1>our you're in our special protected class, and we want

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<v Speaker 1>to see you succeed in your transgenderism, which is not

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<v Speaker 1>supposed to be the job of the court.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I got to say this, This insanity is a

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<v Speaker 2>big part the reason Donald Trump won in November and

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<v Speaker 2>we got a Republican House, at a Republican Senate because

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<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people are looking at this

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<v Speaker 2>and saying this stuff is crazy.

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