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Speaker 1: police department last night. We continue from Las Vegas. Many

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Speaker 1: in spite of the Left trying to snuff it out

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Speaker 1: while everybody is ducking rightly so, running for cover rightly so, well,

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Speaker 1: on Wednesday. He spoke this morning, said he's praying for

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Speaker 1: did you want to to go to? Linda? Oh? Can

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Speaker 1: you fix that? Um? Adam is in Arizona. Adam, You're

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Speaker 1: on the Sean Hannity Show. How are you, sir? Hey?

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Speaker 1: How you doing? Sean? Yeah? I want to run a

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Speaker 1: couple of things by you and get your good analysis

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Speaker 1: on this. You know, I think this shooting was the

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Speaker 1: shortest amount of time that politicization was enacted. And what

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at is a very sophisticated, planned out op

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Speaker 1: and this guy is just some regular show that put

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Speaker 1: cameras in the people. He's got twenty six weapons, all

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Speaker 1: of which the Democrats would like to have banned. Why

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Speaker 1: would he need six weapons in that building to do

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Speaker 1: what he did? All he needed was two rifles and

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Speaker 1: some drum magazines to do what he did. And he's

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Speaker 1: got twenty six rifles in this room scattered all over

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Speaker 1: the floor for everybody to take pictures of. Something doesn't

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Speaker 1: sit right with this. And then the Hearing Protection Act

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Speaker 1: is being debated in Congress and Hillary comes out talking

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Speaker 1: about suppressors. But she calls him Silencers the Duke, and

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Speaker 1: you know, and and all of a sudden it gets shelved,

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Speaker 1: and you know, something stinks about this whole thing. I

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Speaker 1: think he might have just been a dead guy on

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Speaker 1: the floor when the cops got there. I don't want

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Speaker 1: to I don't want to rush to judgment. And I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your call. We don't know yet, and that's the point,

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Speaker 1: and I wanted we go. I'm we're gonna wait for

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Speaker 1: the facts to command. We're not gonna speculate. But John

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Speaker 1: Lotte is going to join us later. Gun control in

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Speaker 1: Europe is almost total. It hasn't stopped mass shootings like

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Speaker 1: the attacks in Vegas. By the way, how much you

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Speaker 1: know that during the Obama presidency overs and his adopted

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Speaker 1: of his presidency, eighteen thousand people shot Frank Is in

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Speaker 1: White Plains in New York. Next Sean Hannity Show, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Vegas. What's up, Frank? How are you? Hi? Sean,

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Speaker 1: pleasure to speak to you. And Uh, I'm a big

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Speaker 1: fan of yours. Thank you, Uh, Sean. I I believe

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Speaker 1: that truth is always able to be uncomforted. You just

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Speaker 1: ask questions and ask questions, and all the facts are

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Speaker 1: going to corroborate the other facts. That's just the way

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Speaker 1: it works. Um, they're gonna, you know, the the investigators,

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Speaker 1: They're gonna ask his girlfriends all kinds of questions, what

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Speaker 1: medical records, if he was told by a doctor he

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Speaker 1: they'll they'll get to the truth eventually the time, and

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Speaker 1: they just got to keep asking questions, and you know, truth,

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Speaker 1: truth can't be hidden. I I've never seen a case.

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Speaker 1: And this is why I brought a little bit of

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Speaker 1: feel like he was b assing. I felt a man

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Speaker 1: this guy is a ghost and nobody knows anything about him.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the President and the First Lady met

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Speaker 1: When that happens, we'll bring that to you live right

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Speaker 1: here on the Sean Hannity Show. We have a lot

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Speaker 1: more to get to pap you. Cannon will be coming

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Speaker 1: up today and we're gonna have a gun debate. Everyone

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Speaker 1: wants it, We'll give it to you. We'll give it

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Speaker 1: to you in a way the mainstream media never would.

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Speaker 1: When the President speaks, will carry it. Looks like it's

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Speaker 1: coming up soon. Straight ahead from News Talk seven twenty W,

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Speaker 1: in Vegas, Hannity tonight at nine. We have an incredible show.

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Speaker 1: Will continue your Sean Hannity Show. We're in Vegas. Many thanks,

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Speaker 1: News Talk seven twenty k d W, n K Dawn Radio.

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Speaker 1: Fifty want blow torture, freedom and freedom of speech. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Hannity tonight from Vegas. We're getting deeper and deeper, trying to,

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Speaker 1: you know, take off layer after layer of this onion.

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Speaker 1: We also have the gun debate that all these people

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Speaker 1: fair debate. Uh. The President now has just met with

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Speaker 1: the first responders, and he's also been to the hospital.

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Speaker 1: When we come back at the top of the hour,

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Speaker 1: the President will be speaking. We will carry it in

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Speaker 1: total for stations along the Sean Hannity Show Network. We

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Speaker 1: will begin that news conference from the top, and then

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Speaker 1: we'll get to calls, Pat Buchanan and so much more. Sean,

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. We'll

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Speaker 1: take a quick break. We'll come back from Vegas and

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Speaker 1: appreciate that, and I will tell you the people of

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Speaker 1: Nevada and the extraordinary city have shown the world their

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Speaker 1: incredible character, courage and resolved. Nevada really is a very

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Speaker 1: very special place. I'm honored to be here today at

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Speaker 1: the Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Department in the company of heroes.

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Speaker 1: Thank you to our police, our firefighters, and to our

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Speaker 1: first responders, and of course too Sheriff Lombardo. Credible job

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Speaker 1: you've done. Mayor Goodman, Hello good I couldn't be blocked

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Speaker 1: very much. Senator Cortez, Master Majority Leader. Where is Kevin Majority,

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Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy, Adam Laxalt, all of the great Congressmen that

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Speaker 1: we have with us today from both parties. We just

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Speaker 1: are honored that you could be with us and on

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Speaker 1: behalf of the grateful nation. Milani and I thank each

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Speaker 1: and every one of you in law enforcement. In the

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Speaker 1: depths of horror, we will always find hope in the

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Speaker 1: men and women who risk their lives for hours. The

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Speaker 1: mass murder that took place on Sunday night fills America's

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Speaker 1: heart with grief. America is truly a nation in mourning.

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Speaker 1: still recovering from their wounds, and we ask God to

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Speaker 1: ease their suffering and to speed their healing. We pray

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Speaker 1: for the recovery of the injured and those injured officers

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Speaker 1: who so bravely threw themselves into danger when duty called,

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Speaker 1: and we grieve the loss of the law enforcement personnel

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Speaker 1: who were killed in this vicious attack. Many families tonight

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Speaker 1: will go to bed in a world that is suddenly empty.

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Speaker 1: The people they so dearly loved were torn away from

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Speaker 1: them forever. Our souls are stricken with grief. For every

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Speaker 1: American who lost a husband or wife, mother or a father,

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Speaker 1: a son, or a daughter. We know that your sorrow

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Speaker 1: feels endless. We stand together to help you carry your pain.

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Speaker 1: You're not alone. We will never leave your side. Here

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Speaker 1: at the police Department, we remember one of our own

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Speaker 1: who died this week, Charles Heartfelt. He was a very

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Speaker 1: very special person. Officer Heartfield was a proud veteran, a

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Speaker 1: devoted husband, a loving father. His death is a tragic

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Speaker 1: loss for this police force, for the city, and for

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Speaker 1: our great nation. We struggle for the words to explain

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Speaker 1: to our children how such evil can exist, how there

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Speaker 1: can be such cruelty and such suffering. But we cannot

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Speaker 1: be defined by the evil that threatened us, or the

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Speaker 1: violence that incites such terror. We're defined by our love,

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Speaker 1: are caring, and our courage in the darkest moments, what

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Speaker 1: our solace is knowledge that the souls of those who

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Speaker 1: we're blessed to be surrounded by heroes. As one eyewitness

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Speaker 1: recounted this week, while everyone else was crouching, police officers

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Speaker 1: were standing up as targets, just trying to direct people

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Speaker 1: coming from. Words cannot describe the bravery that the whole

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Speaker 1: Police officers tie Alert Peterson and Tanne Gerle, and civilian

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Speaker 1: Aaron Stalker. Officer Peterson was on a second day on

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Speaker 1: saved so many lives, and believe me, a grateful nation

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Speaker 1: thanks you. The example of those whose final act was

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Speaker 1: We will endure the pain together, and we will overcome

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Speaker 1: together as Americans. May God bless and watch over those

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Speaker 1: who protect us. May God bring healing to the families

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Speaker 1: of the wounded, the injured, and the fall. And may

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Speaker 1: God bless our great country, America. Thank you very much,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you, Governor, thank you very much. All right,

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Speaker 1: Many families tonight will go to bed in a world

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Speaker 1: leave your side. That was the president today anyway, eight

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Speaker 1: out here. And one of the guys that was at

642
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: the concert was mad Dog. He's a he's on our

643
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: sister affiliate state station out here. What is one or

644
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,680
Speaker 1: two seven the coyote? Yes, sir, how can I just say,

645
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 1: it's an honor to sit here and talk to you. Sean.

646
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 1: I've seen you for years and as a media guy, man,

647
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: it's it's an honor. Well, the honor. Well, so what

648
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,880
Speaker 1: shift do you do. I do mornings, um on the Coyote.

649
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: So I actually came in, uh Monday morning at five

650
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,239
Speaker 1: o'clock to do the show, and it was just it

651
00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,040
Speaker 1: was just surreal. I think I was in shock still

652
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: at that point. You know, yeah, you were there, yeah, yeah, Um,

653
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: we were there all three weekends. You know, it's a

654
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: big festival out here and we're part of it. Um.

655
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 1: We gave out tickets. I think we had a hundred

656
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 1: and fifty of our listeners there at the festival. Unbelievable,

657
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: you know, twenty two people. Yeah, we were there all

658
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: week and we're in the backstage area interviewing artists. I mean,

659
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,800
Speaker 1: it was such a great weekend, Sean, Like Friday, Saturday,

660
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: even Sunday was so much fun. We're having a great

661
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,560
Speaker 1: time until you know, tell us, tell us what you saw.

662
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: What did you see? At the time, I was at

663
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 1: our Chayote tent, so we were kind of away from

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Speaker 1: the crowd. Um, we were on the left side if

665
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: you were, you know, the the opposite side from Las

666
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 1: Vegas Boulevard and Mandalay Bay. Um. And we were just

667
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: sitting there, you know, waiting too, because every night we

668
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: had an after party at Mandalay Bay at the Foundation Room.

669
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: We were getting ready to tear down and go up there. Um.

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00:42:20,360 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: So if if it was thirty minutes later, we might

671
00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,239
Speaker 1: have been on our walk over to Mandalay Bay and

672
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,440
Speaker 1: been in the line. So what where we were sitting,

673
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: We were kind of away from from the main crowd, um,

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00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 1: and we heard three I heard three pops when it

675
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 1: sounds like pop pop pop, and I thought it was

676
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,480
Speaker 1: fireworks at first, which I thought was weird because well

677
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 1: it happened in concerts right in the middle of the set,

678
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: you know. I just I wasn't sure what it was.

679
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 1: Looked up in this guy and didn't see anything, so

680
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 1: startled me. And then you waited a couple of seconds,

681
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:53,759
Speaker 1: and then when you heard the rabid fire, and our

682
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 1: first thing to instinct was just to run. Um, did

683
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: you see those injured trying to get cover? I didn't

684
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: because got out of there so fast. If it was

685
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: ten ten o eight by ten ten, I was across

686
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 1: the Street on the other side of the festival, calling

687
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: people to make sure that they had uh you know,

688
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: you know, it just reminds me of UM. I was

689
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: in New York on nine eleven. I was. I'm from

690
00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 1: New York originally, you know, and it just reminds me

691
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,800
Speaker 1: there's a it just hangs in the air here. It's crazy.

692
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean every person that I've talked to and everybody,

693
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm talking to people that literally they're they're

694
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: just shattered over this the trauma that they live with.

695
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:30,440
Speaker 1: And I remember the feeling after nine eleven. I mean,

696
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:32,839
Speaker 1: maybe on a bigger scale, but when when you lose

697
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 1: fifty nine people and you got five ties seven others,

698
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 1: you know, fighting for their lives and clinging to life

699
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: in a hospital bed, it's just awful. Yeah, like I said,

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00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: I lived through it to UM. I was in New

701
00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 1: York at that time, listening to Howard Stern and stuff

702
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,320
Speaker 1: as the buildings failing. I listened, I really listen to

703
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 1: that broadcast, not that pretty recently, and he's, you know,

704
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: he's having fun the way Howard does, and he's talking

705
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: about uh was Pam Anderson, And then all of a

706
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: sudden it starts unfolding. My brother as a police officer,

707
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 1: so he was down there, you know, digging through the

708
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 1: rubble in the weeks to come. But yeah, it kind

709
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: of has that same feel I believe too. You know,

710
00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: it's something that's gonna take a long time to heal.

711
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 1: But yeah, we were where we were set up. We

712
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: just saw the mass of crowd running towards us. So

713
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 1: our first reaction is just to to book it, you know,

714
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:18,280
Speaker 1: save your save yourself. Um. So we were right behind,

715
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: were right in front of the porta potties there, so

716
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 1: we ran in there. Some people were hiding the porta potties.

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00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: We thought, we thought originally I didn't know where it

718
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,399
Speaker 1: was coming from. I thought they were on the festival grounds.

719
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 1: I thought the shooter. We thought there was multiple. Obviously

720
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: we're on the festival ground. So our first instinct was

721
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 1: just to run scatter. So we jumped over a fence

722
00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: there and got out, and all of a sudden, the

723
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Speaker 1: whole cities and our thoughts and prayers, I know, there's

724
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,440
Speaker 1: audience and our thoughts and prayers. Uh, your real name

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00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: is Mike West, And uh, how did you get the

726
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:47,080
Speaker 1: name mad Dog? Um? It was just by the way

727
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 1: liberals call me a mad dog, so we could probably

728
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,759
Speaker 1: remember Mike and the Mad Dog. And like I said,

729
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: I lived there for twenty two years in my life. Um,

730
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,040
Speaker 1: one of our DJs wanted me to come up with

731
00:44:57,080 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: the name, and I thought of it. I got it,

732
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: all right, all about to you, and I thought some

733
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:06,040
Speaker 1: prayers with the city. Obviously, if we continue for Vegas,

734
00:45:06,080 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 1: pap you cannon at the bottom of the hour. All right,

735
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: let's get to our busy telephones here. Let's say hi

736
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: to Brandon is in Wyoming. What's up, Brandon? How are you? Oh?

737
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,360
Speaker 1: Quite a bit. I think it's really important Son. People

738
00:45:21,480 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: focus on the lead time that this individual took planning

739
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: this heinous act and then look at those individuals and

740
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: what they represented is that we're targeted and it and

741
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 1: it plays to a double to accomplishment of a motive

742
00:45:36,680 --> 00:45:40,160
Speaker 1: that they had two accomplishments, one to take out those

743
00:45:40,239 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: individuals that you didn't agree with or that you had

744
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 1: a problem with, and to to bring Gunson School back

745
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: on top. I know it sounds pretty heinous and political

746
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,360
Speaker 1: to say that. Well, look, I mean, we all have theories,

747
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: but you know, we just need to get the evidence

748
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: for it. It is applausible. Yeah, I guess a lot

749
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 1: of things are plaused bill here. But the reality is,

750
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,959
Speaker 1: I mean, this is why when I when I spoke

751
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,280
Speaker 1: to this guy's brother, I mean, it's like he's a ghost.

752
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 1: Nobody knows what this guy is even all about. It's bizarre.

753
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: Really quickly will squeeze in uh Mike and Mississippi Mike,

754
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,960
Speaker 1: real quick, less than a minute. The motivation could be

755
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: that the casinos broken. He was a high roller for

756
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: ten years, getting all types of cops. You don't do

757
00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: that by winning money. He's been losing and bleeding money

758
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:29,640
Speaker 1: for the last ten years. Maybe it's a great page

759
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,000
Speaker 1: against Bandelaide Bay. Who wants to rent that room again?

760
00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: Who wants to have a concert in that area again?

761
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 1: He could I don't see. But there's no evidence that

762
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:45,160
Speaker 1: he's broke from anybody. Just sent his girlfriend or somebody

763
00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand dollars um, I don't. I mean, you know,

764
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: part of it is it could be as simple as

765
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:56,080
Speaker 1: there's no agenda. The person is just evil. I don't.

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00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,960
Speaker 1: I just don't know. It's very hard to figure out.

767
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 1: All Right, we're gonna take a break, we'll come back,

768
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 1: come back, perp you Canada's next. All right, all these

769
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,800
Speaker 1: people Kimmel, all these Late nine people, all these liberals

770
00:47:07,840 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 1: democrats want a gun debate that's coming up here and

771
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: tonight an important monologue on Hannity nine Easter that she

772
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,720
Speaker 1: doesn't know anything as well, like she was sent away.

773
00:47:20,360 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: She was in no way so that she will be

774
00:47:24,640 --> 00:47:28,680
Speaker 1: there to interfere. I'll put this body even though that

775
00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:31,359
Speaker 1: she's going to the Philippines, until Steve said, oh Mary,

776
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,520
Speaker 1: I found you a chip ticket to the Philippines. He's

777
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: on her way so that he can plan what he's

778
00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: planning without interruptions. In that sense, I thank him for

779
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:47,439
Speaker 1: sparing my sister's life, but that wanted to compensate out

780
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: Pippy nine people put the puzzles together. No one except

781
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: Mary Lou because Stive is not here to talk anymore.

782
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 1: Only Mary Looke and maybe help probably was even Chackman asked,

783
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: because she is more closer to him than us. You

784
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: not to be able to find out that your person

785
00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: you love, you live with, can do such thing, and

786
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: you you thought you know the person yourself. Mary lu

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00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: Dunley is my sister. She's a good person and gentle soul,

788
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:23,799
Speaker 1: a mother, the grandmother, your sister, a friend. If Mary

789
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: Lou was there, and this may be as well, didn't

790
00:48:26,040 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: happen because she won't let that happen. She would dependentally stop,

791
00:48:30,320 --> 00:48:33,840
Speaker 1: stop something. Whatever he was blooded. I know these are

792
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:35,960
Speaker 1: harsh words, but I believe it in my heart. I

793
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: think there's an unintentional endorsement that gets sent to these

794
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:47,240
Speaker 1: mass murders when after slaughter after slaughter, Congress does nothing

795
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: in the face of tens of thousands of gun tests

796
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:53,920
Speaker 1: every year. Too many Republicans and Congress have tried to

797
00:48:54,080 --> 00:48:56,400
Speaker 1: enact the dream agenda of the n r A and

798
00:48:56,480 --> 00:49:01,120
Speaker 1: the gun lobby. Evil attacked Las Vegas. But we can

799
00:49:01,160 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 1: do something about it. We can say enough is enough.

800
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:11,239
Speaker 1: We're saying enough to the evasion and the euphanism. They

801
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: can take those euphemisms and stuff them. And I think

802
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,560
Speaker 1: we have to ask ourselves the same question again, is

803
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 1: there nothing that we can do? No law, nothing that

804
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,960
Speaker 1: we can do. I've been reading comments from people say

805
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: this is terrible, but there's nothing we can do about it.

806
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 1: But I disagree with that intensely, because of course there's

807
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: something we can do about it. There are a lot

808
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: of things we can do about it, but we don't,

809
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: which is interesting because when someone with a beard attacks us,

810
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 1: we tap phones, we invoke travel bands, we build walls,

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00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: we take every possible precaution to make sure it doesn't

812
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:46,160
Speaker 1: happen again. But when an American buys a gun and

813
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,320
Speaker 1: kills other Americans, then there's nothing we can do about that.

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00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,959
Speaker 1: President Trump is visiting Las Vegas on Wednesday. He spoke

815
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: this morning, said he's praying for those who lost their lives.

816
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:57,800
Speaker 1: You know. In February he also signed a bill that

817
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,120
Speaker 1: made it easier for people with severe mental illnes is

818
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,280
Speaker 1: to buy guns legally. The Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell

819
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 1: and Speaker to the House Paul Ryan, a number of

820
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,880
Speaker 1: other lawmakers who won't do anything about this because the

821
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: n r A has their balls in a money clip

822
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:13,799
Speaker 1: also sent their thoughts and their prayers today, which is good.

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00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:15,719
Speaker 1: They should be praying. They should be praying for God

824
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,200
Speaker 1: to forgive them for letting the gun lobby lobby run

825
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: this country. And the bar is so low right now.

826
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:26,320
Speaker 1: The Congress can be heroes by doing literally anything universal

827
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 1: background checks, or come up with a better answer and

828
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:33,320
Speaker 1: force Obama's executive order that denied mentally ill gun purchases,

829
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: or a better answer, reinstate the assault weapons ban, or

830
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: come up with a better answer anything but nothing. Doing

831
00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 1: nothing is cowardice. Doing something will take courage. And now,

832
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,600
Speaker 1: President Trump, you've said you wanted to be a transformative

833
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,680
Speaker 1: present who doesn't care about the way things have always

834
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:57,439
Speaker 1: been done in Washington, d C. This is your chance

835
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: to prove it. And I mean this sincerely. You do

836
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 1: not owe the Republicans anything. You know, the Republicans tried

837
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:08,440
Speaker 1: to stop you from being president. We'll screw him. Do

838
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: you want to make America grade again? Do something? The

839
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: last two presidents haven't been able to do pass any

840
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: kind of common sense gun controlled legislation that the vast

841
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 1: majority of Americans want. All Right, as we continue Sean

842
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: Hannity Show. Joining us now to respond to all of

843
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 1: this is Patrick J. Buchanan and Pat Buchanan is as usual,

844
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: we have the politicizing of a mass shooting. And uh,

845
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: you know, all these years, all these shootings, all these

846
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 1: people killed in Chicago, and I gotta be honest, it's

847
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: pretty unbelievable that oh nobody says a word. You know.

848
00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 1: We put up all the names of the people that

849
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: were shot in Chicago, and and the thousands that were

850
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 1: killed in Chicago while Obama's president, nobody seemed to, you know,

851
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,560
Speaker 1: raise an eyebrow. Why is that? Well, I think there's

852
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Speaker 1: a real inconsistency on the left. You're exactly right. I mean,

853
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: you get four more killed in Chicago and Uh in

854
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Speaker 1: one year than you're doing any number of cities put together.

855
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: And it's because people have got guns in violation of

856
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:12,640
Speaker 1: the law and shooting each other down. But I think

857
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:16,560
Speaker 1: some of these sean served to be occasions really for

858
00:52:16,719 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: folks to get on their old hobby horses and ride

859
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 1: ride ride. But let's take the assault weapon here, which

860
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: we're converted to full automatic. Does some law which says

861
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:29,160
Speaker 1: you're going to go to jail or you're gonna pay

862
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 1: a terrible fine if you do that? Is that going

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00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: to deter an individual who, when he converts it, is

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Speaker 1: going to risk his life up there firing down on

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Speaker 1: a lot of people. I mean, if you get willing

866
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Speaker 1: to die shooting all these people, and you're willing it

867
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Speaker 1: basically to commit suicide by cop, are you going to

868
00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: be deterred by some law passed by converse that says

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00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 1: you can't do it. No nobody, nobody that's that's capable

870
00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:56,680
Speaker 1: of evil and willing to take out innocentmen. Movement and

871
00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: children are going to obey any law that's passed by anybody.

872
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: Of course not. They're violating the highest law we have

873
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 1: in the highest law written on the heart human heart.

874
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,600
Speaker 1: They'll shalt not kill, They'll shalt not murder. They're violating

875
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:13,600
Speaker 1: the highest law we got on the books again against murder,

876
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: first degree murder, premeditated murder of a great number of people.

877
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,080
Speaker 1: And we're gonna tell them, Look, if you convert your gun,

878
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna find you. It's preposterous. And to

879
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 1: think that's its a turrent. Well, so what do you

880
00:53:26,360 --> 00:53:28,400
Speaker 1: think in terms of what where we go from here?

881
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 1: Because you see what the left is trying to do,

882
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: that they're going to try and motivate this. I see

883
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,200
Speaker 1: all of these comments that, well, unless there's a mass

884
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 1: shooting at a Trump rally, Republicans won't do anything. It

885
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: was put out there. Did you see that? But all

886
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: that stuff is not unfamiliar, and I think it passes

887
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 1: over the head of most people. I do think there

888
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:50,920
Speaker 1: will be a heavy focus on on the part of

889
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party on you know, making a writing a

890
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: law against the conversion of semi automatic weapons like a

891
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: R fifteens and a K forty seven to full automatic.

892
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: And my guess is that we'll get a hearing in

893
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: the Congress of the United States. But you know, there

894
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 1: are not only millions, as I understand it, there maybe

895
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: more than ten million of these weapons out there. And

896
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:16,640
Speaker 1: the idea that somehow this is going to be efficacious,

897
00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:19,719
Speaker 1: that it's going to stop this it's not. And I'll

898
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: tell you why, Sean. What did this guy want when

899
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: he went up there and plotted this and was there

900
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 1: for five days, bringing in guns and prepared the hall

901
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 1: and the rest of it is cameras. He wanted what

902
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:35,680
Speaker 1: we eventually gave him. He wanted to end his life

903
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 1: in a blaze of publicity and attention, and we've given

904
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Speaker 1: it to him. The President spoke to it. I mean,

905
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:50,000
Speaker 1: columnists and commentators are out there, you yourself are out there, MSNBC, CNN,

906
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,880
Speaker 1: and we all this is what these people crave. I

907
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: think what he wanted to do was end his life

908
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: as the greatest mass murderer and American his treat and

909
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,840
Speaker 1: have the world know that fact and the nation that fact,

910
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: and I think he succeeded in a sense. You know,

911
00:55:07,480 --> 00:55:10,240
Speaker 1: there is some clue that emerged last night. The Clark

912
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:14,920
Speaker 1: County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo gave this press conference and responding

913
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Speaker 1: to a question whether the Vegas shooter, Stephen Panic, had

914
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: been radicalized, and he said, well, I want to understand

915
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: the motivation that you described and and this is the

916
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Speaker 1: question and prevent further incidents. And you know, well, did

917
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: this person get radical radicalized unbeknownst to us, and we

918
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:36,239
Speaker 1: want to identify that source. Now, I've never really bought

919
00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:39,600
Speaker 1: into the ISIS claim or the Islamic States claimed that

920
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 1: they were responsible for this attack. There's no evidence of such.

921
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,759
Speaker 1: But um I did notice that the president himself, he

922
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,040
Speaker 1: was speaking about this, and CBS News reported about this.

923
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: He said that we're beginning to learn a lot more

924
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: about the shooter and that information about him would be

925
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: released at an appropriate time. So it seems like they're

926
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 1: beginning to put the pieces of the puzzle together. They well,

927
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,600
Speaker 1: they look you obviously got to look into something like that.

928
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 1: But it looked at me from everything, it looks to

929
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 1: me that we do know he wanted to end his life.

930
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 1: We know how he knew how he wanted to end

931
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Speaker 1: his life, and he knew what one of the great

932
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Speaker 1: rewards of ending his life by firing semi automatic and

933
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: automatic weapons into a crowd of two innocent concert goers

934
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Speaker 1: at a country and music festival. He knew the kind

935
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Speaker 1: of attention he would receive, that he would become known

936
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Speaker 1: to the world. His picture is going to be on

937
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: every front page. Now, did hend was a triggering event,

938
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: something he got some sort of conversion? Well, I doubt it.

939
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: They certainly ought to look into that, that whole whole bit.

940
00:56:49,840 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: But this to me is more less like a nine

941
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Speaker 1: eleven than say Dylan Route or Cree Bolt and the

942
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:59,600
Speaker 1: others out there at Columbine and these folks that just

943
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:03,239
Speaker 1: they there are nobody's who want the world's attention and

944
00:57:03,320 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: the nation's attention, all of us to know who they are.

945
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: I mean, it's into me, John. I can remember Charlie

946
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Speaker 1: Whitman nineteen sixty six climbing up into the after killing

947
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: his wife and mother. He climbs up into the Texas Tower.

948
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Speaker 1: He's an ex marine sniper and he took down forty

949
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Speaker 1: one people, even fifteen dead. I can still see his

950
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Speaker 1: picture and I still remember his name, and I think

951
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: and I think he wanted that. I think that folks

952
00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: that do that, they just say, I'm going out in

953
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 1: a blaze of what is glory for me? But I'm

954
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:39,600
Speaker 1: going out, all right, Patty Cannon's stay right there. We

955
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: appreciate it. One Shawn is a toll free telephone number.

956
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 1: As we continue from Vegas and News Talk seven K

957
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Speaker 1: d W N Hannity tonight, our usual time, now our

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Speaker 1: new time, nine pm. All right, As we continue, Patrick J.

959
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: Buchanan is with us as syndicated columnist, best selling author,

960
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: and of course work for presidents Reagan, uh Nixon, and Ford. Um.

961
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: I want to talk a little bit politically here. You know,

962
00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 1: it seems that there's nothing this president can do that

963
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 1: anybody on the left is ever going to support. And

964
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,040
Speaker 1: there seems to be almost as much, if not more,

965
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,400
Speaker 1: and more intense opposition of the president from those within

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00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: the Republican Party. As a result, they've been impotent and

967
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:25,400
Speaker 1: incapable of fulfilling basic fundamental promises. And I wanted to

968
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 1: get your thoughts on it. I think that I've never

969
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 1: seen the media, so I've seen hostile media, but I've

970
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: never seen a media is so remorseless and so relentless

971
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:37,960
Speaker 1: and so constant in its hostility. It's like it's just

972
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: criticizing every move every day the president makes. And uh,

973
00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:45,160
Speaker 1: I think he's got a lot of problems during his

974
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: plate right now with the Tillerson thing in North Korea

975
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:49,800
Speaker 1: and Puerto Rico and all the rest of it. But

976
00:58:50,360 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 1: I think with regard to the Republicans, I know everybody's

977
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,160
Speaker 1: critical of McConnell, but you take a look, he's got

978
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,480
Speaker 1: three people take a walk on him, and he doesn't

979
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,560
Speaker 1: have a majority in mccame does routine lee, and Ms

980
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: Collins does routine lean, and even my old buddy Ran

981
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: Paul does routine le and Rakowski does and so I'm

982
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 1: not sure how he can succeed if these people are

983
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 1: taking a walk of him on him. But there's no

984
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: question about it. On the perception is its Republican Party

985
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:19,360
Speaker 1: has been handed, you know, a tremendous franchise and told

986
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 1: go ahead, you've got the contract from America, go ahead

987
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:24,480
Speaker 1: and get your job done. And they have produced and

988
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 1: accomplished next to nothing. The regulation is tremendous. No, I

989
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 1: think the president everything he's been able to get done

990
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:33,600
Speaker 1: on his own. He's gotten done, and you've got to

991
00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:35,920
Speaker 1: give Paul Ryan a lot more credit. I mean, in

992
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: terms of the bills that they passed in the House,

993
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,880
Speaker 1: there's two hundred and sixty eight of them that they

994
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 1: haven't even begun to take up in the Senate. They

995
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: haven't even Mitch McConnell hasn't even been able to get

996
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 1: fifty of the president's appointments. I mean, it's taken him

997
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: a year to do that. He was ill prepared for

998
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: repeal and replaced. That to me was almost unforgivable. You

999
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: would have thought in seven and a half years they

1000
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: would have built up a consensus plan that they actually mean, uh,

1001
00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: And we found out a under a House Republicans and

1002
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: at least seven Senate Republicans. You know, we're just giving

1003
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 1: us a bunch of show votes and had no intention

1004
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 1: on following through on what their promise was to us.

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01:00:09,640 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 1: I think that's exactly right. I think that I don't

1006
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,439
Speaker 1: think they anticipated for a second that Donald Trump would

1007
01:00:15,440 --> 01:00:17,240
Speaker 1: win and so they could have gone on, you know,

1008
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: voting to repeal and replace Obamacare. Um, you know, another

1009
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,600
Speaker 1: forty or fifty times. If Hillary Clinton were president, and

1010
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 1: I think this came down on them. I think it

1011
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,280
Speaker 1: was frankly a mistake to go first with the repeal

1012
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,640
Speaker 1: of Obamacare's I think they should have moved with taxes.

1013
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 1: But that's right, but they Look, the point is I

1014
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: did see one congressman, and one of the ones who's retired,

1015
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,640
Speaker 1: he made a good point. He said, you know, despite

1016
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: what it looks like, uh, Mitch McConnell does not have

1017
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: a working majority in the United States Senate. And see

1018
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: he's got he's got Republicans who are chronic defectors. And

1019
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 1: even even when you put on the line that look,

1020
01:00:50,240 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 1: all of us have got to get together on this

1021
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,280
Speaker 1: because we promised will we'd do it. And even though

1022
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 1: you made dislike it, you can speak against it, but

1023
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: in the last analysis, you've got to give us fifty

1024
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:01,480
Speaker 1: votes so we can get it done. And they don't.

1025
01:01:01,640 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 1: And so I think that's that's the reality. Well, you

1026
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 1: would think that the old days, pat there used to

1027
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 1: be repercussions. You'd you lose your chairmanship, you would you

1028
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 1: know your bill would get buried. But there's no there's

1029
01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:15,640
Speaker 1: no repercussions. I just think Mitch McConnell's lost all control

1030
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 1: and I think it's probably time for another leader. I'll

1031
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: tell you what I do, Pat, I put everybody in

1032
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,320
Speaker 1: the room, and i'd say you can't leave, and I

1033
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: turn off the air conditioner, and I buy pizza and

1034
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:25,800
Speaker 1: beer and say sit here until we figure it out.

1035
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,400
Speaker 1: What's wrong with that? I've got something along those lines.

1036
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: I agree with you. I also agree with this look

1037
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:33,840
Speaker 1: on these appointments. Why doesn't just send it, Just keep

1038
01:01:33,920 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: them in and don't don't even go home, and let

1039
01:01:37,560 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: the Democrats fill their talk it all through again and

1040
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: again until they're tired of talking, and fill up those

1041
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: jobs in the departments and agencies that are still empty.

1042
01:01:47,080 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: Because they're lazy. They're lazy, that's it, and that's reason

1043
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:55,800
Speaker 1: they all want to get out of town and get

1044
01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:59,800
Speaker 1: back to raising money and making speeches and appearances back home.

1045
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: All Right, I gotta roll at the American people are

1046
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 1: suffering now as a result of it. All Right, the

1047
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: real truth, the real facts on the issue of weapons,

1048
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:13,800
Speaker 1: more guns, less crime. It's a fact. It's an indisputable fact.

1049
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: John Lotts. Next, Yet, do go that way, get out

1050
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Speaker 1: of here. They're gun shots coming from over there. Go

1051
01:02:22,360 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: that way, go that way. I can get my hand

1052
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:53,680
Speaker 1: from book. Let's go down and go down and go

1053
01:02:53,760 --> 01:03:01,800
Speaker 1: down the shooting right out of skuys. Everybody, stay down,

1054
01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:08,040
Speaker 1: stay down. Where's that more for the mentally best come

1055
01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:25,240
Speaker 1: out of the window to getting on coming than go back,

1056
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:36,280
Speaker 1: get back and get back get I know you want

1057
01:03:36,320 --> 01:03:38,400
Speaker 1: to go the ship? Got up there, you know, getting

1058
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: it getting you see the bloss on the bed away bay,

1059
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 1: run my bay? Are you say now? If I get down,

1060
01:03:52,000 --> 01:04:14,440
Speaker 1: get down, get down, get down. I got Let's go

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Speaker 1: talk a jog a job. I got it. That's fun.

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Speaker 1: Where are you go? Go's like this is why this way,

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Speaker 1: this way, this is way to say go go go

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Speaker 1: go that will go without that way. So we've talked

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Speaker 1: about gun violence on this show before, and I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure what else I can say. I also know nothing

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Speaker 1: I say will make any difference at all. But the Congress,

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Speaker 1: I would just like to say, are there no steps

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Speaker 1: we can take as a nation to event gun violence?

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Speaker 1: Or is this just how it is and how it's

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Speaker 1: going to continue to be? Because when you say, which

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Speaker 1: you always say, now is not the time to talk

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Speaker 1: about it, what you really mean is there is never

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Speaker 1: a time to talk about it, and It would be

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Speaker 1: so much more honest if you would just admit that

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Speaker 1: your plan is to never talk about it and never

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Speaker 1: take any action. All right, That was Seth Myers prior

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Speaker 1: to that, the body cam audio from the Las Vegas shooting. Uh,

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Speaker 1: maybe people can remember the sound and the danger that

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Speaker 1: these cops are under every day before they rush to judgment.

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Speaker 1: And you've got all the late night host Trevor Noah

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Speaker 1: and Jimmy Kimmel and Seth Myers and Stephen Colbert, you know,

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Speaker 1: basically the same thing. You got the celebrities out there,

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Speaker 1: you know, the geniuses like Lena Dunham. Uh, no, no way,

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Speaker 1: not to politicize this tragedy. It's about gender and race

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Speaker 1: and access to guns and people like Lady Gaga, you know,

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Speaker 1: saying prayers are important. But Speaker Ryan and Donald Trump.

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Speaker 1: Blood is on the hands of those who have power

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Speaker 1: to legislate. And we got geniuses and models now weighing in. Uh,

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Speaker 1: gig Hadeed. It sickens me the case in which a

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Speaker 1: terrorist can get be sold to gun Is it really

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Speaker 1: worth all of those lives? And Alissa Milano, isn't your

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Speaker 1: children's safety mean more than your right to own weapons

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Speaker 1: that can kill on a mascale. F you, n r A.

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Speaker 1: And then we've got let's see Sophia Bush, Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: F you for this, truly sincerely America. You know how

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Speaker 1: out of out touch of these people. You know, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the hypocrisy here. Okay, they want to disarm

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Speaker 1: the American people and prevent American people. Do you have

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Speaker 1: the right to protect yourself your family? Well, what are

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Speaker 1: people gonna do if you have evil in your heart

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Speaker 1: and you want to destroy innocence, Maybe you're gonna strap

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Speaker 1: a bomb on yourself and going to a crowded area,

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Speaker 1: or maybe you'll take build a pressure cooker bomb and

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Speaker 1: leave it like the Sarno brothers, or or maybe use

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Speaker 1: a car as a weapon. All sorts of way to

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Speaker 1: kill people if you're intent on killing innocent people. And

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Speaker 1: it is interesting that a lot of these rich celebrities

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Speaker 1: that they live in there protected and gated communities and

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Speaker 1: when they're out in public, they have their arm guards.

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Speaker 1: And you know the same thing with the politicians like

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton who just waited nine hours to start playing politics.

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Speaker 1: We didn't even know how many were killed, how many

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Speaker 1: were injured at the time. You know, you have two congressmen,

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Speaker 1: Congressman Seth Molten and a congresswoman as well, Catherine Clark.

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Speaker 1: They wouldn't even have a moment of silence or participate

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Speaker 1: in a moment of silence on the House floor. Pretty sick,

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Speaker 1: pretty twisted. You know a lot of these people out

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Speaker 1: in the case of Congress, they have their own armed

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Speaker 1: police force. That's to keep them safe. So you want

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Speaker 1: to have the debate, All right, let's have the debate.

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Speaker 1: I'm having the debate. But you've got to also look

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Speaker 1: at some other facts. John Lott is going to join

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Speaker 1: us in a second. Gun control in Europe is almost total,

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Speaker 1: and it hasn't stopped mass shooting a tax like what

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Speaker 1: we saw in Vegas. And he rightly points out that

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Speaker 1: Europe is some of the strictest gun control laws on

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Speaker 1: the planet, yet there are still mass shootings. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, liberals are always morally outraged these mass shootings,

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Speaker 1: but you know, I don't remember them when Obama was president.

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Speaker 1: Now I was talking about it. I even went as

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Speaker 1: far to put the names of victims up on the screen,

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Speaker 1: not names like Trayvon Martin, not names like Freddie Gray,

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Speaker 1: not late names like Michael Brown, but put up the

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Speaker 1: names and the victims, including young children in Chicago when

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Speaker 1: nobody else was talking about it. And then Obama mentioned

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Speaker 1: that what three times while he was president? And during

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Speaker 1: that presidency murders took place in his own home, adopted town.

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Speaker 1: Why where where was the outrage from the people on

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Speaker 1: the left. Then what about the more than eighteen thousand

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Speaker 1: people that were shot in Chicago just during the last

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Speaker 1: six years of Obama's presidency? What did he do to

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Speaker 1: help stop the violence. Then, you know, you look at

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Speaker 1: the victims in this particular case and you just have

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Speaker 1: to cry. Anyway, joining us to discuss and debate all

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Speaker 1: of this, we have John Lott. He's the president of

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Speaker 1: the Crime Prevention Research Center. He wrote the best selling

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Speaker 1: book now in multiple editions, More Guns, Less Crime, and

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01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:15,120
Speaker 1: Pat jez Waldo's with us. He's the founder and CEO

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Speaker 1: of the D A D. And he's going to address

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Speaker 1: the mental health aspects of all of this. Nicolas Irving

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Speaker 1: as a former U. S. Army Ranger, Special Op sniper

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Speaker 1: and author of The Reaper, and he can speak to

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Speaker 1: the bump stock and weapon modifications that took place in

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Speaker 1: this instance here in Vegas. John Lottal start with you. Um,

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Speaker 1: every time I watch you debate, the fact that you

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Speaker 1: even talk makes people on the left that are either

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Speaker 1: interviewing you or debating you bubble and phizzics like Alka,

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Speaker 1: Seltzer and water because they don't want to hear the

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Speaker 1: research facts that you give out. Well, you know, I

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Speaker 1: guess a lot of people are willing to accept the

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Speaker 1: fact that they're both costs and benefits of the different

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Speaker 1: types of laws that they have, and you know, so

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Speaker 1: many of these laws. We've just seen this in the

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Speaker 1: last couple of days. They start talking about, you know,

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Speaker 1: universal background checks or some other type of regulation on licensing,

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Speaker 1: and they don't even ask whether or not it would

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Speaker 1: have stopped a particular attack. I mean President Obama after

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Speaker 1: each of the mass public shootings during his administration, that

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Speaker 1: he spoke on the one regulation that he talked about,

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Speaker 1: where these universal background checks. But yet it wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: stopped a single one of these attacks, not one during

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Speaker 1: his administration, not one in years before that. We have

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Speaker 1: the New York Times yesterday Nicholas Kristoff having an op

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Speaker 1: ed where the first thing he lists is those types

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Speaker 1: of universal background checks, and there are other types of

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Speaker 1: regulations too. I mean, probably one of the more embarrassing,

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Speaker 1: embarrassing examples of this was in July when we had

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Speaker 1: the shooting against the Republican congressman. You had Terry mccauliffe

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Speaker 1: within like an hour coming out publicly talking about a

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Speaker 1: list of gun control laws that he said would go

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Speaker 1: and stop the attack. And yet it turns out later

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Speaker 1: that the person obtained his guns from Illinois, where in

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Speaker 1: fact they already had all the entire list of gun

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Speaker 1: laws that Terry mcculloff was saying would be important for

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Speaker 1: stopping these types of attacks. You would think they could

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Speaker 1: at least wait a day until or at least some

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Speaker 1: hours until we know what the facts are before they

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Speaker 1: tell us what rules and regulations would have stopped the attack.

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Speaker 1: But the bottom line is there. The only what they'll

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Speaker 1: do is they'll slowly chip away, and they'll they'll say, okay,

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Speaker 1: we'll use the universal background checks. That doesn't work. Then

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Speaker 1: they'll figure out some other standards by which they want

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Speaker 1: to prevent people from buying and purchasing handguns. But ultimately,

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Speaker 1: isn't their goal just to take away the right of

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Speaker 1: the American people to to keep into bear arms no,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, and I've I've come to that

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Speaker 1: view over time. Take the universal background checks. There are

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Speaker 1: a couple of problems with them that I pointed out

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Speaker 1: for seventeen years, but they're not willing to fix them.

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Speaker 1: If they fixed them, I think it'd be easy for

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Speaker 1: them to get them past. So I'm in Washington, d C.

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Speaker 1: Right now because a hundred and seventy five dollars to

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Speaker 1: vivtly transfer a gun in Washington, d C. Because of

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Speaker 1: the background checks, that may not stop you or high

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Speaker 1: from being able to go and get a gun. But

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Speaker 1: my research shows that it's poor blacks in particular. The

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Speaker 1: people will most likely be victims of violent crime who

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Speaker 1: live in high crime urban areas who benefit the most

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Speaker 1: from having the option to be able to go and

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Speaker 1: protect themselves a d seventy five dollars or even in

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Speaker 1: some states where it may be as low as fifty

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Speaker 1: five dollars to do this, that may make the difference

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Speaker 1: between whether or not they're able to protect themselves and

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Speaker 1: their families. If you go and say, look, you claim

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Speaker 1: that this reduces violent crime. Well, as an economist, I

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Speaker 1: would say, whoever benefits from that should be the ones

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Speaker 1: who pay for this, And if it's not just the

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Speaker 1: law abiding citizen who's going out of their way to

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Speaker 1: do the background checks, who would be benefiting, everybody would

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Speaker 1: be benefiting. So pay for it out of general revenue.

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Speaker 1: They will go ballistic if you suggest that. I'll just

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Speaker 1: give you one simple example. In Colorado and when they

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Speaker 1: were passed seeing their background checks on private transfers, I

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Speaker 1: got a call from some state legislators and they asked

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Speaker 1: me what amendment I would put up in my suggestion,

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Speaker 1: there was a state tax for transferring guns. My suggestion

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Speaker 1: was to exempt people below the poverty level from having

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Speaker 1: to pay the new state tax. With the exception of

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Speaker 1: two pro gun Democrats in the state House, every other

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Speaker 1: Democrat in the state House they're voted against exempting people

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Speaker 1: below the poverty level from having to pay the state tax. Now,

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Speaker 1: how many taxes can you think of that Democrats would

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Speaker 1: fight tooth and nail against exempting people below the poverty

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Speaker 1: level from having to pay. All right, we gotta take

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Speaker 1: a break. Stay right there, and Pat jez Waldo was

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Speaker 1: gonna join us, Nicolas serving John Lott, who you just

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Speaker 1: heard from, and we're going to continue this discussion. News

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Speaker 1: round up information overload into the next hour. Break right back,

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Speaker 1: we'll continue, all right. As we continue, We're in Vegas,

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Speaker 1: the Sean Hannity Show, one sewn while we're having the

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Speaker 1: debate all these late night hosts and Paul politicians want

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Speaker 1: to have about guns in the Second Amendment in America.

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Speaker 1: John Lott also joining us. Pat jez Waldo is with us,

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Speaker 1: and Nicholas Irvine is with us. All right, Pat, From

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Speaker 1: the mental health standpoint, there's also evil in the hearts

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Speaker 1: and minds of human beings, because good people cannot, you know,

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Speaker 1: look at a group of tens of thousands of people

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Speaker 1: and start firing into that crowd and the hopes that

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Speaker 1: they can kill some people. No, that's absolutely true, San,

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Speaker 1: Thanks for having me on, and you know, for anything,

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Speaker 1: I just want to say that my heart and my

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Speaker 1: prayers are with all those victims in their families. It's

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Speaker 1: just another evil, important act yet again unfortunately unfortunately it's

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Speaker 1: sad it is and you know, it really is a

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Speaker 1: mental health issue. Um, that's my entire perspective. I'm the

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Speaker 1: whole thing. That's exactly what I do. My organization works

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Speaker 1: with people with the stabilities. We helped painted soldiers. But

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Speaker 1: and we do a lot of advocacy. So my you know,

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Speaker 1: I come from this a little bit different angle where

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Speaker 1: it's all mental health, because it really is a mental

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Speaker 1: health issue. It's not a gun control issue. It's not

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Speaker 1: a Republican issue, it's not a Democrat issue, you know.

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Speaker 1: And and this needs to be more than a conversation.

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Speaker 1: This needs to be an initiative, you know. And listen,

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Speaker 1: I get the fact that a lot of people sometimes

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Speaker 1: overlook people with disabilities are the whole disability aspect of life,

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Speaker 1: because if the disability doesn't affect your family, unfortunately, then

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Speaker 1: it goes unnoticed. You know. It's not a very sexy issue.

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Speaker 1: I get that. You know, Um, my situation. Um. And

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Speaker 1: the reason why I'm so involved in this is that

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Speaker 1: when I started my organization, I had a severe battle

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Speaker 1: with the disability myself. Um. Originally, doctors thought I had

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01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:45,000
Speaker 1: terrible policy. So I tried to speak of four years

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Speaker 1: old and I could as severe stuttering problem. I had

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01:15:47,680 --> 01:15:49,719
Speaker 1: braces on my legs from my ankles to my knees.

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Speaker 1: I was severely dyslexic, so I couldn't read and write.

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Speaker 1: So you know, thankfully, through drumming I pioneered the healing order,

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01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 1: the drum therapy that helps you train synaptics in the brain.

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Speaker 1: So through drumming, was able to beat my disabilities a

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Speaker 1: hundred percent by the time I was in junior high.

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Speaker 1: And so Sean, and I'm not being in our sosistic

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01:16:08,280 --> 01:16:09,720
Speaker 1: when I say that. The only reason why I say

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01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 1: that is that I know the issues when it comes

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Speaker 1: to disability. You know, I was one of those kids.

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01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: You know, my family were one of those families, so

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01:16:16,960 --> 01:16:19,880
Speaker 1: I know firsthand. But the bottom but the bottom line

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01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: is how do you ascertain somebody's mentally ill? And isn't

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01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 1: it true if evil desires to kill are in your heart,

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01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:29,080
Speaker 1: aren't you going to find some way to do it

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01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:32,200
Speaker 1: no matter what it's going to happen. Unfortunately, you know,

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Speaker 1: with with the exception of there's no there's no there's

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01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 1: no gun law that's gonna prevent an evil person from

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Speaker 1: killing if killing is on his mind and heart, No,

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01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,840
Speaker 1: not at all. Well I think that tells at all. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, listen, like I said in my article,

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Speaker 1: I wrote, I wrote an article because this is you know,

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Speaker 1: very dear to my heart, this issue. Um, and you know,

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01:16:54,640 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 1: of course trying to get people to read the article

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01:16:56,360 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: because it will help the mainstream population understand the whole

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Speaker 1: disability issue in one short article. Of course, nobody wants,

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01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,559
Speaker 1: nobody wants to publish it because you know, they think

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01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: it's a publican issue. But it's stay right there. We

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Speaker 1: gotta we gotta take a break. Pat Joe's Waldo's with us,

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01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 1: John lott Is with us, and Nicholas ur If I

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01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,000
Speaker 1: will get to them, and we'll also get a couple

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Speaker 1: of calls in the next half hour. Nine one, Shawn,

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Speaker 1: you want to be a part of the program. Don't

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Speaker 1: forget Hannity Tonight our new time, nine eastern, six o'clock

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Speaker 1: Vegas time. As we are broadcasting the President in Vegas today,

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Speaker 1: we'll have all the latest developments, also find out about

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01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:35,519
Speaker 1: who this girlfriend is and what we're learning more and more,

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01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: and we'll raise the question that the sheriff raised, was

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01:17:38,240 --> 01:17:41,880
Speaker 1: this person radicalized? That's nine eastern on Hannity Tonight from Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Quick Break right back. We'll continue till the top of

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Speaker 1: the hours. We continue many thanks to our affiliate here

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01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:51,360
Speaker 1: in Vegas News Talk seven twenty k d w n

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Speaker 1: K Dawn Radio, the fifty blow torture, freedom and freedom

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01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: of speech. John Lott is the president of the Crime

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Speaker 1: Prevention Research Center uh PAT. Just Waldo is with US,

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Speaker 1: founder and CEO of the d A d. Dad is

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Speaker 1: dressing the mental health aspects of this. Also, Nicholas Irving

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01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 1: is with US former US Army Ranger, special Ops sniper,

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Speaker 1: author of The Reaper, and Nicholas, I want to bring

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Speaker 1: you into this. You can talk about what is the

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Speaker 1: bump stock and weapon modifications that took place here by

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Speaker 1: Steven Paddock when he was attacking these people from the

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01:18:27,240 --> 01:18:31,000
Speaker 1: Mandalay you know the Route ninety one Harvest Festival. What

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Speaker 1: have you been able to glean based on the information

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Speaker 1: that's been revealed? Thank you for having me on UM.

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Speaker 1: Back a few years ago when the bump stock came out,

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01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,439
Speaker 1: I was in Vegas during an event called the Shot Show.

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01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:43,320
Speaker 1: They have a bunch of weapons out there. You get

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01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: a chance to go out and shooting, have fun, and

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01:18:45,200 --> 01:18:48,400
Speaker 1: see the latest and greatest new innovations of of weapons

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01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:51,280
Speaker 1: UM coming out for the next year or two. UM.

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Speaker 1: While I out there, I got a chance to examine

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Speaker 1: it and shoot the bump stock and basically what it is.

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Speaker 1: It's using the laws of inertia and physics, UM. Opposed

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Speaker 1: to putting your butt stock up against your shoulder pocket

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01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:06,759
Speaker 1: with the normal rifle and pulling into your shoulder pocket,

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01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:10,120
Speaker 1: you're pushing out and that allows for the recall to

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01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: recall back, bounce back up against your now forward pressure

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01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: that you're applying on the weapon, and that creates that

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01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:20,800
Speaker 1: rapid fire movement or that rapid fire the simulates really automatic, UM.

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Speaker 1: And the no matter what you do about it. Let's say,

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01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,080
Speaker 1: if you decided to ban the bump stock and get

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01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,880
Speaker 1: rid of that, UM, there's ways around that. And it

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01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 1: took me a simple search on YouTube from some kid

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01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:35,760
Speaker 1: with over nine hundred thousand views UM on how to

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Speaker 1: simulate that with just using a belt loop when you're

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01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,839
Speaker 1: on you're a pair of jeens, So that same exact

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01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:44,680
Speaker 1: uh you know, fully automatic simulation of rifle fire can

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Speaker 1: be used with the pair of gene But I want

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Speaker 1: to be very what you're saying here is is that

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Speaker 1: you can take a weapon that is legal and turn

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Speaker 1: it into an illegal weapon, or a semi automatic into

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01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: an automatic exactly. Yeah, it takes uh no genius to

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01:19:57,479 --> 01:19:59,280
Speaker 1: do it. Anyone can do it with the simple search

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Speaker 1: on Google or ASCALXA. I'm sure she'll be able to

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Speaker 1: find it too. But it's that simple. Um, in order

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01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:06,360
Speaker 1: to get around that, we were looking at something where

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Speaker 1: you have to ban all weapons systems. And you know,

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Speaker 1: let's say if that did happen, which you know, I

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01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,559
Speaker 1: don't think it will, but if it did happen, Um,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't take a genius to walk down to the

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Speaker 1: nearest lows or home supply store and you know, do

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Speaker 1: exactly what they did in Oklahoma City. You know, Ultimately,

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's such a good point. And ultimately, John,

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Speaker 1: there's really no law that's going to prevent people from

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Speaker 1: killing other people. And that was why I think you

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Speaker 1: were making the point about Europe and they have the strictest,

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Speaker 1: strictest gun laws in the country. But by the way,

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Speaker 1: so does Chicago, and yet we see more people getting

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Speaker 1: shot up in Chicago than anywhere else. Right, Yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: just look at France. France banned semi automatic guns, I

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Speaker 1: mean not just machine guns, but all the terrorist attacks

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Speaker 1: there in two thousand and fifteen, for example, involved machine guns.

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Speaker 1: You had more casualties from the four mass public shootings

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Speaker 1: in in France in two thousand team a country one

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Speaker 1: fifth their population. Then you had in the entire eight

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Speaker 1: years of the Obama administration fivety two casualties in France

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Speaker 1: in one year versus five seven in the United States.

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Speaker 1: You know, you look at this guy, this killer in

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas. He apparently had an ammonia nitrate in his car.

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Speaker 1: Let's say he hadn't been able to go and get

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Speaker 1: a hotel room on the right side of the hotel

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Speaker 1: to go and conduct this attack, would you have driven

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Speaker 1: the car into the crowd there and set it off. Apparently,

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Speaker 1: according to the police, he had multiple homemade bombs at

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Speaker 1: at his home. I mean, these guys plan these types

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Speaker 1: of attacks many, many months, years in advance, And when

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Speaker 1: people plan these things that far in advance, it's simply

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Speaker 1: extremely difficult to stop them from figuring out some way,

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Speaker 1: uh to go and conduct these types of attacks. I

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Speaker 1: know that you have a psychological perspective on this, which

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Speaker 1: I think is interesting, and I'm reading your pat I'm

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Speaker 1: reading your article and I've been reading it. The bottom

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Speaker 1: line is, once the process I've got to believe from

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Speaker 1: a mental health perspective begins that you want to kill

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Speaker 1: other people, doesn't it become a highly focused thought process

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01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: of these people and obsession almost and and those thoughts

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01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: then become feelings, and the feelings get stronger and stronger

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01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: and stronger, and then ultimately they create more thoughts, and

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Speaker 1: then you're you're planning and plotting the scenario under which

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Speaker 1: you want to act. And then if we look at

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Speaker 1: this particular case, what do we see. We see a

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Speaker 1: guy that you know used meticulous planning to get to

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Speaker 1: to prepare for this attack. Well, yeah, and Sean, sometimes

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01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:40,960
Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't even take that long. Sometimes it

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Speaker 1: could just happen instantly, you know, said somebody offering there

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Speaker 1: it is, it happens. Um. I suspect and I think

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Speaker 1: that I'm not wrong on this, but we'll soon find out.

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Speaker 1: You know, everybody's saying the brother came out about this person.

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Speaker 1: I think the mother had said something. I don't know

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Speaker 1: the girlfriend had said something. But I suspect that for

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Speaker 1: this happen and the way that he planned this, Um,

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01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,280
Speaker 1: why is everybody so surprised? There's something in his background somewhere.

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01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:10,600
Speaker 1: I guarantee it that somebody knew something and it's just

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Speaker 1: not out yet. But it had to be because he

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01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: doesn't know all of the sudden to go from one

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Speaker 1: day to being fine to doing this. This is over

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Speaker 1: the course of time. We knew he was at the

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Speaker 1: hotel for what three days, so you know, we knew

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01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,280
Speaker 1: he was staking that out for three days. So there's

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Speaker 1: something more going on here, and eventually it's going to

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Speaker 1: come out. You know, it's Monday morning. Quarterbacking is a

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Speaker 1: lot easier on these things. You look at the past

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Speaker 1: mass public shootings during the Obama administration, of the mass

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Speaker 1: public shooters were actually seeing mental health care professionals before

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Speaker 1: they engaged in their attacks, and yet not in one

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01:23:42,360 --> 01:23:45,760
Speaker 1: single case were they identified as either a danger to

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Speaker 1: themselves or others. So you know, you may say somebody

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Speaker 1: should have noticed something, but in fact, you look over

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Speaker 1: the decades, and in fact, there's a large literature and

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Speaker 1: in academic psychology journals that go and talk about the

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Speaker 1: fact that they simply aren't able to identify these individuals beforehand.

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01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:09,040
Speaker 1: People with mental illnesses tend to be much less violent

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01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:12,599
Speaker 1: than the general population, and these types of characters who

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01:24:12,720 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 1: do this horrible stuff are extremely rare, and so it's

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01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 1: not too surprising that they have a very difficult time

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01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: trying to do it. The issue is you just can't

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01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:25,840
Speaker 1: depend on being able to screen these people out. And

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01:24:25,920 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 1: then the question is, well if if you if that

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01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:31,680
Speaker 1: doesn't work, what types of backup lines of defense that

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01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,920
Speaker 1: you have. It doesn't apply to this last shooting, but

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Speaker 1: for the vast majority of these shootings they keep on

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01:24:38,040 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 1: occurring in places where guns are banned. That these criminals

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01:24:42,439 --> 01:24:46,320
Speaker 1: may be nutty in many ways, but they're not stupid.

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01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 1: They try to find places where victims aren't able to

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01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,360
Speaker 1: go and defend themselves because they know it's going to

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01:24:52,400 --> 01:24:54,439
Speaker 1: be easier for them to kill people they know if

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01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:59,640
Speaker 1: if they're pretty Vegas has pretty um Also, I'll use

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Speaker 1: the word liberal for lack of a better word gun laws.

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01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:05,519
Speaker 1: I mean, but they were sitting ducks. I mean, it's

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01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:07,960
Speaker 1: not like people could fire back. This guy was you know,

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Speaker 1: thirty two floors of alcohol, alcohol and weapon. Still anyways, Yeah,

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01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: here's the issue on that as well. You know, the

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01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: other issues too is that, yes, a lot of people

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Speaker 1: that are under uh you know, uh psychological supervision and

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Speaker 1: things like that. The other problem is that there's really

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Speaker 1: no support. There's there there isn't any especially for the

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01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:31,680
Speaker 1: people that are by and there is a large not

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01:25:31,840 --> 01:25:36,240
Speaker 1: I've represented many people who are extremely violent, and you

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01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,120
Speaker 1: know the problem is that they're set free, they're walking

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01:25:39,200 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: among us. Um, there's there's a lot of issues with

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01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:48,320
Speaker 1: um the institutions who you know, won't let some of

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01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,240
Speaker 1: these people stay for a long time. I mean, I've

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Speaker 1: seen this time and time and time again for decades,

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Speaker 1: and it's unfortunately wrom with any of these mass public shooters.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying that there aren't people who

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Speaker 1: are violent that you may want to institutionalize, and there

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Speaker 1: may be problems with institutionalizing. I'm just saying, you can't

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Speaker 1: name me one of these mass public shooters in the

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Speaker 1: United States or in Europe, which, by the way, Europe

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Speaker 1: has a casualty rate from mass public shootings that's about

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Speaker 1: higher than the casualty right we have in the United States.

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Speaker 1: You can't name one case that would fit the type

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Speaker 1: of discussion that you're having there though, Well, they're all

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Speaker 1: mentally ill, and that that you know, yes it might

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Speaker 1: be a uh, you know, a broad stroke, but but

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Speaker 1: they're all mentally ill, that's my point. And and there

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Speaker 1: is something in those backgrounds. No, they don't have to

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Speaker 1: go around killing their dogs all the time. Of course,

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Speaker 1: not or that, whether pats or their neighbors. But my

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Speaker 1: point is that they're mentally ill and and a lot

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Speaker 1: of these issues will come up in some sort of way,

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Speaker 1: whether especially at the under age And the point is

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Speaker 1: after slipping through the system, um, and what I might

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Speaker 1: look at these guys. Many of these guys are seeing

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Speaker 1: some of the top mental health care experts in the country.

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Speaker 1: Does Danna barbera killer? There? With seeing the head of

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles County Children's Hospital for for mental health and

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Speaker 1: worldwide recognized expert, uh, and he was not able to

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Speaker 1: identify the person as either a danger to himself or others.

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Speaker 1: This is not uncommon. It's very difficult. I wish, I

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Speaker 1: wish mental health care experts were able to go and

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Speaker 1: identify these individuals beforehand, but they're not. And that raises

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Speaker 1: questions about, well, what do you do if you can't

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Speaker 1: possibly depend upon that, well, my life life these people are.

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Speaker 1: They are very smart. Unfortunately, as evil as Osama bin

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Speaker 1: Laden was, you know, he was brilliant, unfortunately. Um, you know,

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Speaker 1: and if people could only use effort. But I can

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Speaker 1: tell you specific cases where people have been in institutions

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Speaker 1: for doing things or even in jail for hurting somebody

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Speaker 1: or doing something extremely violent, now not not necessarily killing somebody,

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Speaker 1: but almost suet running people over with harsh and they're

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Speaker 1: on suicide watch. And twenty minutes later, you know, I

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Speaker 1: get a call that they're out on the street. Let

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Speaker 1: me bring Nick back in here. Go ahead, Nick, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you know, with everything that everyone's saying,

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Speaker 1: there's no way to defend against it. Um and the

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Speaker 1: I believe the root of all this does rely or

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Speaker 1: does fall back on mental health, and we have to

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Speaker 1: I think, Uh, if there really wants to be a change,

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Speaker 1: understand what is the root of the cause of these

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Speaker 1: uh you know, what what causes these individuals to go

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Speaker 1: out and commit such things? Um. You look at a place,

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Speaker 1: let's say, for example, Chicago, UM, what is causing if

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Speaker 1: it is a mental health issue? What is the underlying

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Speaker 1: cause of the um? You know, anger for someone to

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Speaker 1: go out and commit some prime against someone else if

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Speaker 1: they don't know or anything, there's some type of anger there.

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Speaker 1: What is the underlying issue? I think that, you know,

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Speaker 1: if once we find that out, we'll be able to,

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Speaker 1: I guess, further address the situation. The main thing here

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Speaker 1: is that unfortunately, UH, people are using this to apploy

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Speaker 1: political advantage, which is just horrific. Um. The Democrats can't,

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Speaker 1: Hillary can't come out and say that, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: not a Republican Democrat issue, but we need to make

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Speaker 1: this here's how we help this whole situation to We

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Speaker 1: can't make this a gun control issue. It has to

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Speaker 1: be a mental healthy and in order to do that,

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Speaker 1: we need to make it a campaign. You know, we

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Speaker 1: need to say that, you know, we need to do

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Speaker 1: something about this. People need to way you do. The

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Speaker 1: experts can't identify these individuals as being the problems beforehand,

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Speaker 1: so they can't go They absolutely can't, no disrespect, they can't.

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Speaker 1: Well let me let me, let me jump in and

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Speaker 1: focus this for a second. Pat. Okay, you're saying they

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Speaker 1: absolutely can identify. How come nobody identified this guy? And

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Speaker 1: I can't think of another case where they've been identified. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they absolutely can, I have. And by the way, that

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Speaker 1: then it raises another question. You know, if somebody goes

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Speaker 1: into a SHRINX office or a pastor's office and says,

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Speaker 1: I have thoughts of killing people, Well, okay, what about

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Speaker 1: you know, patient client privilege, what about you know, clergy

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Speaker 1: client privilege. At what point does that person make the

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Speaker 1: decision that this person is just struggling or this person

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Speaker 1: really has, you know, is a real threat to society. Well,

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Speaker 1: you know, like I said, Um, I think that, and

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Speaker 1: I know for a fact that there have been many cases.

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Speaker 1: Now it's not every case. These people are very smart. Okay,

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Speaker 1: these people are very smart. Where uh they may pretend

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Speaker 1: they don't have an issue, they can really sway somebody,

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Speaker 1: including you know, mental health professionals. Happens all the time.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely a gentleman's that's right. It happens all the time.

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Speaker 1: But my point is that we need to make this

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Speaker 1: more We need to make people more aware of this,

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Speaker 1: and it camp be. The important thing here's that it's

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Speaker 1: not a gun control issue. So what do we do?

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Speaker 1: As you said, well, I think that there needs to

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Speaker 1: be some kind of foundation that says that first says, okay,

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Speaker 1: there's somebody with a mental health issue. Um, just because

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Speaker 1: there are those people, you can't let the rest about

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Speaker 1: suffers who are normal and who want guns, you know,

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Speaker 1: but at the same time that needs to be addressed.

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Speaker 1: So it needs to be a camp Well, John, I

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Speaker 1: want John to respond to that. John. Look, I mean

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Speaker 1: you can go and spend all the money you want.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to make really any difference

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Speaker 1: in terms of this. My concern is that, you know,

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Speaker 1: if you want to have a good reason for spending

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Speaker 1: mental health beyond money, beyond that, fine, but you have

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Speaker 1: to worry about what do you do to try to

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Speaker 1: stop these when you can't identify these individuals to begin with.

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Speaker 1: And while I realized in this case things like gun

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Speaker 1: free zones aren't relevant for the the issue of the

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Speaker 1: Las Vegas shooter, you look overcent of the mass public

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Speaker 1: shooting since seventy have occurred in places where general citizens

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Speaker 1: aren't able to go and defend themselves. Just look at

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Speaker 1: the scale shooting that was occurred in July. I gotta

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Speaker 1: break here, guys. Um, we're gonna end up having to

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Speaker 1: let you go. Pat, John and Nicholas. I want to

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Speaker 1: thank you all for a pretty fascinating debate. Um, and

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Speaker 1: you well, when can we Well, we're debating it with

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Speaker 1: more facts than the emotion that you get out of

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Speaker 1: the media that just has a knee jerk one, you know,

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Speaker 1: just platitudes and bumper stickers that don't mean a whole

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Speaker 1: lot short of if you don't fan all guns that

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Speaker 1: they you're not going to get the result you want. Alright,

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Speaker 1: Hannity Tonight New Time nine Eastern. Everybody wants a gun debate, Okay,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have it tonight, Hannity ninety eastern with facts

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Speaker 1: wing ideological media. Also check in with the Clark Clark

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Speaker 1: County fire chief. He was at the scene of the shooting.

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Speaker 1: You'll meet some of the other people that survived all

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Speaker 1: of this from Vegas. Hannity on the Fox News Channel

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Speaker 1: information on guns than you could ever use in any debate.

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Speaker 1: Nine Eastern. Hope you'll join us. See you back in

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