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Speaker 3: an idea what your next song is going to be?

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Speaker 3: Have you narrowed it down? I got like two or

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Speaker 3: three that I'm working on all of you.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, bangers, Yeah, I bet I might have something for

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Speaker 4: the next hour.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, what can we do it as a team?

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Speaker 4: Because you take too long? You're like that girl who

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Speaker 4: takes forever getting ready. That is fair, and you're like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'll just I'll be in the car an hour later

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Speaker 4: you finally walk out.

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Speaker 3: You are that person.

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Speaker 1: I just the problem for me is I have to

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Speaker 1: get it done during the show or it's not going

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Speaker 1: to get done.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the problem.

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Speaker 4: What do you mean, by the way, LaVar, haven't we

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Speaker 4: been placed with Jonas before where he's like always last

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Speaker 4: to come downstairs to leave.

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Speaker 1: Oh, we're always waiting on Jonas because he's the star.

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Speaker 1: Hold on a second, Oh, hold.

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Speaker 3: On, wait, Brady is telling me that I'm the last

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Speaker 3: to arrive. You're telling me no, no, no.

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Speaker 4: When we're all leaving to go someplace in the mornings. Now,

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Speaker 4: I'm usually working out, so I'll push it to get there,

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Speaker 4: but I'm always.

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Speaker 3: There on time. I will say.

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Speaker 1: Jonas is hitting you with some truth though, because for

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Speaker 1: the show, like our running deal is, which is funny

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Speaker 1: because by the last day, it's like he's clearly going

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Speaker 1: to come walking in literally, like it's going to be like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: literally a minute ago, like literally, But.

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Speaker 3: But Jonas does that every day here, It's which is interesting.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I sit in my car and be chilling, like

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Speaker 1: and I'd be like, he gets in here literally fifty three,

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Speaker 1: fifty four, fifty five, sometimes even fifty six.

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Speaker 3: Every day. It's the wildest thing every day, Jay, the

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Speaker 3: wildest thing.

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Speaker 5: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Just be sitting there like, bro, like you cut it.

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Speaker 1: Y'all cut it so close. Y'all cut it so close.

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Speaker 1: But hey, that's y'all doing.

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Speaker 3: Can verify. Yeah, they cut it close. Man, I'll be chilling. Though.

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Speaker 3: You want to know who ain't last?

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Speaker 6: Me?

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Speaker 3: I ain't never gonna be last. So why would you

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Speaker 3: back to the original question, why would you need to

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Speaker 3: or you know why I told you yesterday? You know why?

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Speaker 1: Oh, because I'm well, because I'm out of here like

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Speaker 1: I'm onto it, Like my life has has time slots.

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Speaker 1: So so we're talking up out of this time three.

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Speaker 3: To five fifty five? We got you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like one one am one, one thirty am two

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Speaker 1: three what what?

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Speaker 3: Six? What time are we done with this show? Five

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Speaker 3: fifty five? Oh yeah, five fifty five yeah? Six. This

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Speaker 4: You participate, You participate in the group text, which I'd

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Speaker 4: like you to open up your phone right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not because there's often there is a there's a tweet.

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Speaker 3: I'd love for you to read. We have a nice quote.

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Speaker 3: Here we go. All right, you don't want to read

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Speaker 3: that show, I don't care. I think we have the sound. Actually,

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Speaker 3: it's even real. I think did Joe Judge really say that? Hey, Patty,

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Speaker 3: we have that sound right, the Joe Judge sound. It's

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Speaker 3: this was a neighbor. I mean it's yea was next

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Speaker 8: Yeah, like if you watch those documentaries, my house is

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Speaker 8: Yeah, the detectors knocked on my door to find out

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Speaker 8: I mean we just kind of talked to the organization

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Speaker 3: But I mean to have obviously chaotic.

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Speaker 8: You know, it came out of that chaos and we

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Speaker 8: you know, how do you handle something like that? You know,

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Speaker 8: how do you deal with something like that? So you know,

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Speaker 8: you keep the folks on what you can handle, what

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Speaker 3: We end the season here as well, So there you go.

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Speaker 3: Aaron Hernandez being his neighbor, was the comp to lame

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Speaker 1: I mean both are chaotic, right all right, but one

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Speaker 3: Body in the face.

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Speaker 4: Well there you go, I mean, murder one of those

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Speaker 4: what you do when they bring in the person that

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Speaker 3: Might want to stay maybe from that, every team.

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Speaker 4: Brings in a nice manner woman who comes in and

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Speaker 4: saying and controversial anything that speaks for the entirety of

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Speaker 3: They stay positive, don't say negative stuff.

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Speaker 4: This would fall into the category of away from that one,

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Speaker 4: like it would be in the highlight reel of things

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Speaker 4: you don't want to venture down that path and make

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Speaker 3: That's probably another one.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I thought it was pretty extreme, but I

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Speaker 1: guess he got his point across. I mean, if you're

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Speaker 1: that you can block out the chaos and get results,

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Speaker 1: I guess you gave one of the most extreme examples

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Speaker 3: That's for certain. I understood where he was coming from.

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Speaker 3: Definitely did.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you go, and I won't go any further

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Speaker 1: with it, because why there's this lady or a person

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Speaker 1: the topics that you get hit like, these are the

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Speaker 1: things you know, advice to things to stay away from, Like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: you could discuss this, but maybe you shouldn't discuss that.

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Speaker 1: You know, definitely should stay away from these things. So

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Speaker 1: I'm just not going not going to go any further

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Speaker 1: with that. So ay, But they keep making documentaries about it.

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Speaker 3: Though, so they like his house is in a lot

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Speaker 3: of different so we needed documentaries there, you need another

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Speaker 3: one of those, all right, well with that piece, one more,

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Speaker 3: you know. With that being said, there was also the

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Speaker 3: subject of Mario Cristobal. We mentioned the game preview. For

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Speaker 3: those of you wanted the Quinns win on that, go

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Speaker 3: back and listen to the podcast. That's where you can

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Speaker 3: find that if you want to make some money on

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Speaker 3: this game. But Ole Miss and Miami are there, and

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Speaker 3: so Mario Cristibaal was asked about, you know, maybe some

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Speaker 3: some info that might be passed along during the portal

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Speaker 3: process of college football and a wit like this.

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Speaker 9: It's a weird, wild time when you have a transfer

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Speaker 9: portal open while you're trying to prepare to compete for

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Speaker 9: a national championship. Did you guys have any concerns about say,

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Speaker 9: outgoing players from your program. Maybe rival programs are in

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Speaker 9: the semi finals, or elsewhere reaching out to them, trying

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Speaker 9: to get even intel on your own programs as you

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Speaker 9: try to win a national championship.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think it happens all the time, and if

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Speaker 10: we don't think it is happening, then we're kidding ourselves.

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Speaker 10: But quite honestly, I don't blame the players. I blame

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Speaker 10: the adults. We created the system, right, we're supposed to

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Speaker 10: be setting the example. Right, We're supposed to be setting

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Speaker 10: the standard as it relates to everything. So when you

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Speaker 10: create a system that has as many holes as it does, well,

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Speaker 10: then you know, shame on you if you're surprised by

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Speaker 3: So it's a sensible response. Yeah, that's the portal, your guys,

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Speaker 4: Sensible it it's gotten a lot of flack of late

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Speaker 4: I guess do we just want to talk about this now?

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Speaker 4: The Demond Williams situation, Well, it lends to like some

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Speaker 4: things have to be connected to Lane Kiffin. It's like

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Speaker 4: he seems to be at the center of all of this.

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Speaker 4: But for those who don't know, Demon Williams quarterback at

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Speaker 4: the University of Washington really talented player. He signed an

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Speaker 4: agreement to go back to you dub this upcoming season. However,

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Speaker 4: after signing the agreement, he went into the transfer portals

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Speaker 4: trying to go into transfer portal. Supposedly, because he signed

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Speaker 4: this what it was deemed to be a binding agreement

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Speaker 4: with the university, the University of Washington will not put

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Speaker 4: him into the portal. However, it's become public that he

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Speaker 4: has a desire to go into the portal. Now, what

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Speaker 4: makes matters even crazier is the head coach Jed Fish

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Speaker 4: has the same exact agent as Demon Williams does.

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Speaker 1: That is interesting. You know what I find interesting as

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Speaker 1: this is all unfolding with looking at the competitive nature

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Speaker 1: of what the portal represents to the elites. The non

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Speaker 1: elites are the ones that get lost in all of this.

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Speaker 1: And I think that listening to coach Christovaal what he

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Speaker 1: had to say is so relevant because while we will

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Speaker 1: sit here and talk about the elite QBS or the

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Speaker 1: elite player, that these these you know schools want and

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Speaker 1: castaways are ending up and people aren't really talking about that.

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Speaker 1: Guys are ending up in the portal not because they

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Speaker 1: basically cut. They're being cut from their team. We don't

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Speaker 1: it's like, man, I was thinking a GM being hired.

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Speaker 1: Now it's like, okay, you got to manage the money

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Speaker 1: and this, that and the other, and blase blah, like,

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Speaker 1: oh I get it, and you know, recruitment this.

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Speaker 4: And I think there's a lot of different ways you

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Speaker 3: It's a moment where you can either take that and

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Speaker 4: And I can't faulting for that. But that is a

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Speaker 3: The problem now done.

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Speaker 1: The biggest issue I have with this, and my major

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Speaker 3: For so long, athletes have been.

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Speaker 1: Judged for the idea of I'm focused on being an athlete.

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Speaker 3: Had to be a student athlete.

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Speaker 1: Right, shamed, shamed to theteenth.

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Speaker 1: What are you after? Coaching staff?

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Speaker 3: What are you after?

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Speaker 1: Because I barely hear education anymore at all.

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Speaker 3: I barely hear it. I barely hear it.

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Speaker 4: There was a couple of days last week where jordas

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Speaker 4: Look, as long as they didn't sign a contract, we

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Speaker 4: They were there, just as long as they were eligible,

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Speaker 4: Maybe it's about that education they're going to get in

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Speaker 4: come back here and finish or whatever the case is,

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Speaker 4: whether they leave earlier, whether they're transferring out, there's some

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Speaker 4: way of keeping some goodwill and making sure that they

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Speaker 4: come back have the opportunity to get a degree one day.

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Speaker 3: Because that's the scariest thing I think when I look.

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Speaker 4: At these young people, I'm like, they're gonna be leaving

445
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Speaker 4: college and yeah, they may not have any debt, and

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Speaker 4: they may have some you know, some money in.

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Speaker 1: There in hand, and you have no flag, no nation,

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Speaker 1: no no network, no network, nothing to build anything off

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Speaker 1: of or even focus.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 4: No even no focus on education, correct, Unlike what do

452
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Speaker 4: I want to do outside of football?

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Speaker 3: You know, That's why I liked what Quinn Yours did

454
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Speaker 3: because Quinn Ewers, after his final year at Texas, there

455
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Speaker 3: was apparently an offer on the table, a deal for

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Speaker 3: him to go elsewhere, and he turned it down because

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Speaker 3: he's Texas was his dream and he didn't want to.

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Speaker 3: He just didn't want to end his career playing for

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Speaker 3: somebody else, almost as you know, kind of a mercenary.

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Speaker 3: And so he went into the draft, he got drafted

461
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Speaker 3: seventh round whatever. But it was almost like it felt

462
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Speaker 3: rare to hear somebody of that stature, who could go

463
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Speaker 3: get a paycheck, who could go get a payday somewhere else,

464
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Speaker 3: who said, man, I want to be loyal to the school,

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Speaker 3: allably loyal.

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Speaker 1: I went to school for rehab education. I majored in sociology.

467
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Speaker 1: I'm minored in psychology. I stayed in school for obviously too.

468
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Speaker 1: I wanted to be like my mom and help help

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Speaker 1: kids beyond the game. I always was my focus, even

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Speaker 1: as a player, was to help help kids, help help

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Speaker 1: people in development. If if my only worth and my

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Speaker 1: only value was me playing the game, and you see

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Speaker 1: this play out so often. I mean, I could tell

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Speaker 1: you a gazillion names of former players that can they

475
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Speaker 1: struggle with life.

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Speaker 3: They can't.

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Speaker 1: They cannot function in life. Turn the drugs, turn the alcohol.

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Speaker 1: They're abusive, not only to themselves, they're abusive to others.

479
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Speaker 1: They're just they're they're in poor condition because they subscribe

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Speaker 1: to just being a football player. And once the game

481
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Speaker 1: was gone, they didn't know how to care for themselves.

482
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Speaker 1: They didn't know how to schedule for themselves, nothing, nothing,

483
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Speaker 1: Because the skills that they needed to be able to

484
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Speaker 1: be productive in their lives was not there. And it

485
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Speaker 1: becomes apparent when you do not have the game anymore.

486
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Speaker 1: The focus and the purpose of college sports, of high

487
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Speaker 1: school sports is supposed to prepare you to be an

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Speaker 1: adult beyond the sport, beyond the sport, just like everybody

489
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Speaker 1: else that goes to school and what's developing them and

490
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Speaker 1: teaching them to be prepared for life beyond school, and

491
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Speaker 1: that seems to be gone. It seems to be gone

492
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Speaker 1: as it applies to athletics, especially high end net worth

493
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Speaker 1: value sports like football and basketball, it seems to not

494
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Speaker 1: be a focus anymore. And that's that to me. I

495
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Speaker 1: think it's very sad because for me, I went to school,

496
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Speaker 1: I would have never ended up in radio, never would

497
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Speaker 1: have ended up in radio ever if it wasn't for

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Speaker 1: a Penn State or that was a program director. I

499
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Speaker 1: was like, hey, maybe you should come in and learn

500
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Speaker 1: about what radio is about. My network and my education

501
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Speaker 1: and my community is the reason why I'm even on

502
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Speaker 1: the microphone right now.

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Speaker 3: And that's gone, Like that's gone.

504
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Speaker 1: You're you're you're transferring, You're you're a man with no flag,

505
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Speaker 1: You're a man with no nation. And that's a that's

506
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Speaker 1: a very sad commentary to have to play out and

507
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Speaker 1: look at.

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Speaker 3: You guys, all that success on the field, and here

509
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Speaker 3: I was ready to welcome me in with arms and say,

510
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Speaker 3: you know what, let's go get in the mud together.

511
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Speaker 3: Come on, let's go get dirty together. Let's do this thing.

512
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Speaker 3: All three of us all on the same spot. It

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Speaker 3: is two pros and up with Joe here on Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio the Mud, LaVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knoxy here.

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Speaker 3: All right, it's coming up next here speaking of the mud.

516
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Speaker 3: One team finds themselves in it yet again in the NFL.

517
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Speaker 3: But is there any way out? We'll get into that

518
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Speaker 3: for you right here on FSR. I'll tell you what

519
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Speaker 3: you can get out.

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Speaker 1: Some pizza sauce, some some pizza dough.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can enjoy it.

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Speaker 1: You know why, Well, because there's this thing going on

523
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Speaker 1: with Pizza Hut and it's called Pizza before the Hut

524
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Speaker 1: Jonas Knox and you know what, it's a challenge with quarterbacks.

525
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Speaker 1: Pizza Hut has another message for fans.

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Speaker 3: Want to know what it is. What's up?

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Speaker 1: Don't forget to order a Pizza Hut pizza before the

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Speaker 1: first hut is.

529
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Speaker 3: Yelled in the game. Hell yeah, think about that.

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 1: They trying to hook you up and we want you

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Speaker 1: to be a part of that. And here's the move.

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Speaker 1: Go with the Big New Yorker. It's their biggest pizza

534
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Speaker 1: for their biggest games. It's massive, with slices so big

535
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Speaker 1: you have to fold them.

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Speaker 3: Like true new your slices.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and right now it's just ten bucks, ten bucks.

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Speaker 1: You know how big them slices are. One slice should

539
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Speaker 1: be worth ten bucks. Do that math. They're giving you

540
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Speaker 1: all of them, just ten bucks. Make sure you get

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Speaker 1: it before that first hut. Order the biggest pizza for

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Speaker 1: the biggest games. Like I said, and listen, you can

543
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Speaker 1: order any pizza you want. What's your game day pizza?

544
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but you can order it. I think

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Speaker 1: you should go with the New Yorker. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: us here at two pros and a cup of Joe,

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Speaker 1: we feel like that's what you should do. So make

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Speaker 1: sure you do it, and make sure you do it

549
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Speaker 1: for the big game this weekend. Don't forget to pizza

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Speaker 1: the Hut before the first hut, all right, Order the

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Speaker 1: Big New Yorker early don't wait, It's just ten buck.

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Speaker 3: of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Reports say he's going to

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Speaker 3: be back next year. So he will be back next year.

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Speaker 3: Despite the fact that the Tampa Bay Buccaneers lost I

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Speaker 3: believe seven of their last nine, Todd Bowles is going

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Speaker 3: to be back. Meanwhile, Raheem Morris of the Atlanta Falcons

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Speaker 3: won five of his last seven and he was fired.

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Speaker 3: So even though John Harbaugh is out there and he's lurking,

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Speaker 3: Todd Bowles is going to be back as the head

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Speaker 3: coach of your Tampa Bay Buccaneers. So I hope you

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Speaker 3: guys are excited about that.

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Speaker 4: Does that make him a lame duck head coach? Heading

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Speaker 4: into twenty twenty six. I think it defines that, doesn't it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, ooh, lame duck. I mean, is it not explain?

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Speaker 6: Just Okay, they did.

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Speaker 4: Not finish well this season, true, and going eight to nine,

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Speaker 4: that is a losing record, even though it ties for

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Speaker 4: the division. The way they started I think led most

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Speaker 4: to believe that they underachieved in the second half of

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Speaker 4: the year. And there's probably some thought to we feel

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Speaker 4: good about what we have on our roster. Is Todd

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Speaker 4: Bowles then the guy to lead this roster into the

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Speaker 4: playoffs and help us win another Super Bowl? We obviously

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Speaker 4: did it with Bruce Arians and Tom Brady. Now the

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Speaker 4: question becomes is Todd Bowles the right guy? If not,

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Speaker 4: you know, we let a guy in Dave Kanala, let's go,

609
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Speaker 4: who is our offensive coordinator who now won the division

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Speaker 4: now gets to play in the postseason. We need to

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Speaker 4: bring back someone that might be able to, you know,

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Speaker 4: get this team playing at a higher level and not

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Speaker 4: fall off like that in the second.

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Speaker 3: Half of the season. Also Liam Cohen too, So now you've had,

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Speaker 3: you know, two coordinators leave that are both in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: Not a great look.

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Speaker 1: They're aging too, you know, I think I think Baker

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Speaker 1: is he's kind of like a I don't know, It's like,

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Speaker 1: is he the guy? He's at times shows he can

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Speaker 1: be the guy, but there are times where he maybe

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Speaker 1: doesn't show he's the guy.

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Speaker 3: I just wonder.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, if you're saying lame duck coach, it

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Speaker 1: all depends on what the core nucleus of your roster

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Speaker 1: is going into next season. And if I'm saying Baker Mayfield,

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Speaker 1: god Win, David Winfield.

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Speaker 3: I think Levonte David may be done. Okay, so and

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Speaker 3: and and I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if if I'm projecting out looking at

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Speaker 1: potentially these being the names, are we gonna throw Mike

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Speaker 1: Evans in there? Like you know what I mean? Like,

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Speaker 1: is he gonna be back? That's so, what I'm saying

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Speaker 1: to you is unless they have and and and and

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Speaker 1: this is why I say it comes down to Baker,

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Speaker 1: because Baker will be the one, the one entity that

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Speaker 1: is back next year at quarterback. Baker Mayfield will be

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Speaker 1: the quarterback of Tampa Bay. What type of offseason will

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Speaker 1: they have? And I think that will dictate a lot

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Speaker 1: as to if we come into next season, saying Todd

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Speaker 1: Bowles is a lame duck coach versus he has an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to get a little bit further than what he did.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this about what this just did. It's a

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Speaker 3: breath of fresh air because look, and Pete Prisco's talked

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Speaker 3: about this. Yeah, they've been banged up, as we've illustrated

645
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Speaker 3: on this show before. Baker Mayfield, I don't know how

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Speaker 3: healthy he was this year. I mean, you can go

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Speaker 3: back to the Rams game where he left the game

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Speaker 3: when they were getting shell ACKed, but I think he

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Speaker 3: was still banged up even going into that game, and

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Speaker 3: I don't know that he was ever fully healthy. Mike

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Speaker 3: Evans could never, you know, get it back together after

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Speaker 3: he went down with the injury. A mecha Buka miss

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Speaker 3: time and he was great. Bucky Irving miss time, he

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Speaker 3: was great when he was like. So, there's like they've drafted, well,

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Speaker 3: there's been like real like talented players that have been there.

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Speaker 3: I think the organization probably looked at this and just

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Speaker 3: said let's give him another shot and hoped it were

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Speaker 3: healthy to Whereas if you go around the NFL, like

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Speaker 3: some of these guys who got clipped like they were

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Speaker 3: banged up too, don't.

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Speaker 1: You guys believe though, don't you guys feel like? And

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Speaker 1: I guess this was like in my mind what I

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Speaker 1: was trying to get to. Don't you feel like looking

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Speaker 1: at what some of these other teams are doing, like

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Speaker 1: like Todd Bowles is a fine coach, Like he understands

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Speaker 1: the whole dynamic of being the CEO of a team,

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Speaker 1: like you put together the roster, help put together the roster,

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Speaker 1: help put together your coaching staff. He understands that he's

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Speaker 1: a fine coach. You look at some of these other

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Speaker 1: coaches that have done it, like Vrabel is the first

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Speaker 1: one that pops into my mind, and he took a

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Speaker 1: plan into this offseason and executed it. And now look

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Speaker 1: at what they were doing.

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Speaker 3: I feel like.

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Speaker 1: If he has a plan and he can execute it

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Speaker 1: very well in this off season and they do it

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Speaker 1: as an organization like this whole one year proposition is

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Speaker 1: obviously on the tape these days. If there's if there's

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Speaker 1: an organization and a coach that can do it, I

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Speaker 1: think Top Bowls would be on on a list of

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Speaker 1: coaches that would actually be able to have an off season.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're them keeping him says to me, there's

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Speaker 1: a belief in him, still a value and belief in

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Speaker 1: what he brings to the table. Maybe it's an off

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Speaker 1: season that doesn't lend to the idea that this could

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Speaker 1: be like this is a one and done season for

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Speaker 1: top bowls coming up. It could actually be positive, potentially potentially.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I mean, but it also depends on like

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Speaker 4: what that looks like, right, I mean, they got I

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Speaker 4: think more than anything else we learned this year, they

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Speaker 4: have to stay healthy. I mean, if you had reservations

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Speaker 4: of bow Baker Mayfield, I think there was, as Jonas

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Speaker 4: pointed out, concerns over his own health. But then also

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Speaker 4: you know the team around him. It's just they never

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Speaker 4: offensively really had that like healthy team altogether.

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Speaker 3: It was late in the season.

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Speaker 4: I remember we're talking about this, like they had had

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Speaker 4: Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, a Mecca of BUCA, and I

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Speaker 4: think Jaylen McMillan all healthy at the same time.

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Speaker 3: Now it was like not.

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Speaker 4: Until week fourteen, maybe fifteen of the season, some ridiculous

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Speaker 4: you know number like that.

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Speaker 3: Defensively, they struggled probably more than we'd like to admit.

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Speaker 3: They were the worst in the red zone this year.

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Speaker 4: In the NFL, and they had some other issues as

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Speaker 4: well throughout the course of the year, in particular in

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Speaker 4: past defense. But I think if they get back healthy,

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Speaker 4: it's the NFC South, they no doubt have a chance

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Speaker 4: to compete.

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Speaker 3: But I do feel like.

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Speaker 4: We're probably looking at a team that if they had

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Speaker 4: to drag things out, I don't know, there's a huge

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Speaker 4: vote of confidence for how this season ended. I mean,

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Speaker 4: if you would have asked us halfway through the year,

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Speaker 4: Todd Bowles was probably a head Coach of the Year.

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Speaker 3: Candida Oh yeah, super Bowl contender, like Baker Mayfield was

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Speaker 3: in the MVP conversation, he was like, there was all

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Speaker 3: of that going on. And also I don't mean to

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Speaker 3: bury the lead here, but it should be pointed out.

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Speaker 3: According to pe Prisco vitave is, wait yeah, really yeah,

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Speaker 3: they got to manage his way. That was really the

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Speaker 3: really where things went. It was really bad. I mean, look,

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Speaker 3: this this team.

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Speaker 4: I want to know what happened on the on the

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Speaker 4: bye week, That's what I want to know. And there

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Speaker 4: were six and two heading in the bye then we

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Speaker 4: won two games the rest the season. Now, last what

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Speaker 4: happened in that bye week? Where did they go? Were

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Speaker 4: they down in in the Tampa Bay Harbor.

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Speaker 3: Tipulins on the boat. We'll tell the New York Giants

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Speaker 3: soul over again. Tell me what's what's in Tampa that

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Speaker 3: could really get you to got to go in the

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Speaker 3: wrong direction. What's in Tampa boors City? So take us

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Speaker 3: a break? Okay, all right, that's what I've heard.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean that name popped out there

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Speaker 1: a few times. All right, is that what it's called?

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Speaker 3: Is that? Is that? Looking it up? Yeah? I believe

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Speaker 3: Man's van is there? You go? There, you go, there,

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Speaker 3: you go. Yeah, that's that's a day. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That and it's from what I hear from from people

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Speaker 1: who have visited.

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Speaker 3: It's a quality, quality place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that could confuse or distract you from success on

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Speaker 1: the football field.

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Speaker 3: A lot of people walking in life whose names end

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Speaker 3: with a Z. Okay, all right, what's wrong with you, dude?

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Speaker 3: You're touched? Man. It is Two Pros and a Cup

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Speaker 5: It is Tom for in case you missed it, and

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Speaker 5: boy do I have a banger for you guys here?

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Speaker 5: So yeah, what is returning in back this summer And

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Speaker 5: it's a movie and it's something near and dear to

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Speaker 5: my heart.

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Speaker 3: Shaving Oh okay.

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Speaker 5: Novar Jackass Johnny Knoxville has gone on record. Yesterday, he

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Speaker 5: announced via Instagram, Well, a wang dang and a hot

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Speaker 5: damn noodle, We're starting this year off with a bang

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Speaker 5: Jackass back to June twenty six, twenty six.

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Speaker 4: Well, there you go, man, those guys put themselves through

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Speaker 4: so much.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like they're they're touched. They are touched,

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Speaker 3: Yeah to touch. There you go. They were touched back

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Speaker 3: then they're old. What are they gonna do?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's around, yeah, I mean why not

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Speaker 1: just take it right to the grave?

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Speaker 3: Man. Knoxville's like if you hear him discuss his injuries,

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Speaker 3: like his concussions and stuff that he went through, like

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Speaker 3: like he had it's like a like a football player,

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Speaker 3: like he had to go see get evaluated. Did he

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Speaker 3: was forgetting things like you can't grow?

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Speaker 1: We used to play jackass like during parties.

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Speaker 3: Don't try this at home kids.

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Speaker 1: I mean we we we used to like that's that

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Speaker 1: was You drink to that that show, like you throw

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Speaker 1: the DVD on and you drink to it like you

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Speaker 1: have a good time.

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Speaker 3: It's in the background.

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Speaker 1: It's like that painting on the wall, like you know,

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Speaker 1: you walk by like, oh, nice painting, like you party

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Speaker 1: and it's like Jackass has to be on your TV

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Speaker 1: playing on repeat.

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Speaker 3: The guys, the guy's the guy's chugging beer in his ass?

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Speaker 3: Did they do that? Remember? Still tell me you to

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Speaker 3: try that once? When can we get to break? It

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Speaker 3: was on MTV right