1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:04,120 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports. COVID has been so 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: devastating and to see thirty eight thousand people of Funry 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: Park it was really emotional and rewardings on the business side, 4 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: from ticket sales to jersey sale revenues are up. Everything 5 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: was really good as well as solid. Yere I realized 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: that at the beginning of nineteen would be a very 7 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 1: unique opportunity in terms of a lot of contracts being 8 00:00:24,040 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: up at the same time and a lot of sighting 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: young wrestlers being available to go out and start a 10 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: wrestling company. The country is finally deeply getting the memo 11 00:00:32,000 --> 00:00:34,560 Speaker 1: about how amazing the sport is. I think the sky's 12 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: a limit for MLS. Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. 13 00:00:39,760 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: This is the Bloomberg Business of Sports show, where we 14 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 1: explore the big money issues in the world of sports. 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: I'm Michael barn and I'm Mike Lynch and coming up today, 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: we wrapped the year in Sports with Boston Globe sports 17 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: columnists and associate editor Dan Shawnessy. And but first we 18 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: gotta wish you, first of all, Lynchy, a happy New Year. Man. Two, 19 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: let's start this party outright, Sir, alright, Palain, Happy New 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,119 Speaker 1: Year to all our listeners, and uh we appreciate your 21 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 1: loyalty and looking forward to uh entertaining you, inspiring you, 22 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: and informing you. How's that I love it. Uh, let's start. Uh. 23 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: You know, if you used to play in the n 24 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: b A or the NHL, UH, you might want to 25 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: contact the league's because the NBA is now saying, hey, listen, 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: UH if you need a ten day contract, because we're 27 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: having a whole bunch of covid O macron variant issues, 28 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,200 Speaker 1: come on down. At least eighty players have been signed 29 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: by the NBA teams as the coronavirus O macron variant 30 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: spreads Lynchi. Yeah, there used to be an emergency situation 31 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: and you'd see it during the course of the last 32 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: thirty years or so, and it was very rare. So 33 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 1: and so is signed to a ten day contract, and 34 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: that person know they're coming in until someone finishes their 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: rehab or the sprained ankle heeld and then they were, 36 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, back out of dodge. But some of these 37 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 1: guys are gonna hang around for a while and those 38 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: ten day contracts maybe extended. Now the Celtics have signed 39 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: Joe Johnson, who they drafted twenty years ago to attend 40 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: a contract, and they're so impressed with his leadership and 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:17,079 Speaker 1: the influence that he has on the team, which has 42 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:19,720 Speaker 1: really had a mercurial season up and down, that they 43 00:02:19,760 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: may keep him around long term. Um, the NBA is 44 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: getting a little bit of a break on the salary 45 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: cap with this, so this could open up some jobs 46 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: for some guys, and the guys could lose some jobs 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, this is gonna stay in place according 48 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: to the league, at least until January nineteenth, so they 49 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: can do this going on. And also, by the way, 50 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 1: the league is requiring all the teams to sign replacement 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 1: players if they have more than one player out with 52 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: a coronavirus infection. Yeah, they don't want to lose any 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 1: television revenue. They don't want to have to postpone or 54 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 1: cancel any games, especially some big marquee games. I know 55 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,240 Speaker 1: they had their fingers cross on Christmas Day because that 56 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: is a huge day for the NBA, and they made 57 00:02:58,160 --> 00:02:59,519 Speaker 1: it through, but there were a couple of games that 58 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: they were really not sure about right until the last minute. 59 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: This omicron variant, Uh, it's kind of caught a lot 60 00:03:06,600 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 1: of people by surprise, Uh, going through the leagues, But 61 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: like you said, they're going to plow through, especially the NFL. 62 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: The NFL is is. We have mentioned earlier they have 63 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: cut their protocol following the CDC of the ten day 64 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: uh staying away from other players and hibernate every whatever 65 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,160 Speaker 1: you wanna call it, to five days and uh, you know, 66 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: and and again it's I get it because the league 67 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: is saying, look, we need these people to come back. 68 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: And if you talk about revenue for television, the NFL 69 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: is in the NFL is king. I'm interested to get 70 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: Dan Shaughnessy's take on this and what they've done with 71 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: the protocols that it appears obviously that they're going to 72 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: do everything they can to get all these regular season games, 73 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: and there's only two weeks left in the regular season, 74 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: and then the playoffs go for for quite a while 75 00:03:56,840 --> 00:03:59,119 Speaker 1: and that's where they get most of their attention. And 76 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: it's almost as if they're they're pretending that COVID doesn't exist. 77 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 1: Let's just you know, if we don't if we don't 78 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 1: see it, we don't say it, it doesn't exist. So 79 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: interested to hear Shaughnessy's take on that, and the NHL 80 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: they're trying to get their league back on track because 81 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,640 Speaker 1: it and this is a horrible pun and I don't 82 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: mean it like this, but they've been skating on thin 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: ice with all of this, with the COVID and right 84 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: now they're they're trying to get their personnel. They're going 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:31,680 Speaker 1: to the five day condition instead of ten days. Uh, 86 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: this is a mess at Lynchy. I again, I just 87 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: I thought we were out of the woods. I thought 88 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:40,280 Speaker 1: we had a chance for it, and and now here 89 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: we are. I really did. Uh. This invisible enemy is 90 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: just so hard to predict where it is, where it's 91 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 1: gonna strike, where it's going to creep up the NHL. 92 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: Unlike other leagues, the NFL has no teams in Canada, 93 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: basketball has one, Baseball has one, but the National Hockey 94 00:04:56,920 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: League has seven teams in Canada. And you have to 95 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: be in isolation for ten days if you test positive 96 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: in Canada. So that means anybody that goes in there 97 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: and test positive has to stay in Canada and can't 98 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: come back to the United States and rejoin their teams. 99 00:05:10,520 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: So a lot of games that were scheduled to be 100 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: played between American teams and Canadian teams in Canada have 101 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: now been rescheduled. For instance, the Montreal Canadians were supposed 102 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: to host the Bruins in January twelve. Now that game 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 1: was going to be played in Boston. And yeah, I 104 00:05:24,040 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be very very rare. You're not gonna 105 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: see when you see teams crossing the border and going 106 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: into Canada. Yeah, and you you made a very good point. 107 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: In Canada, it's still ten days, so it's you know, 108 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: if you can still you're still gonna have that ten 109 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:42,720 Speaker 1: day problem for the league to be in isolation. All 110 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: I can say is and just saying a prayer for 111 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: everybody out there. I just wonder what's gonna happen with 112 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: baseball because we're coming up pretty soon on pitchers and 113 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:58,320 Speaker 1: catchers and and what's gonna happen here? I mean, the 114 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: COVID protocols for Major League Baseball. What are we going 115 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: need to do? Well? Right now, players are not allowed 116 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 1: to go near other facilities because there's a lockout in existence, 117 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 1: which nobody has really talked about. Everyone is sort of 118 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: holding off and pressing the panic button until around February one. Uh, 119 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: But in late January, that's when players trickle in that 120 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: lived in Arizona and Florida and live nearby and some 121 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: of the training facilities, they go in there and they 122 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 1: work out, They throw, they lift weights, they work out 123 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: with the trainers. They're not allowed to do any of 124 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: that stuff now. So if any baseball players who want 125 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: to work out, they'll be at a local college or 126 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: or high school field working out until this lockout is lifted. 127 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: But this is something that's gonna come roaring down the 128 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: tracks as well. First of all, they got a good 129 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: labor agreement, and then they have to have what kind 130 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,400 Speaker 1: of protocols are they going to be practicing. Let's talk 131 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:52,240 Speaker 1: about some happy news. Yes, Tiger Woods. You know Tiger 132 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,920 Speaker 1: and Charlie, Charlie his son. They look great when they 133 00:06:55,960 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 1: were playing in the tournament just about a couple of 134 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 1: weeks ago. I mean, and Charlie, first of all, twelve 135 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: years old and he's got style and he has grace 136 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: playing the game. Linchie, I want his swing. I'm gonna 137 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: put it out there right now. My birthday is not 138 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 1: till September, but you can buy me. If you can 139 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: buy me Charlie's swing, that will be the greatest birthday 140 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: gift I will ever receive because I will be on 141 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 1: my way in golf. But they have so much fun 142 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: to watch, and of course it raises the speculation and 143 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: the rumors and the whispering, Can Tiger come back? Will 144 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: he make it back for the Masters in April? What 145 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: a story that would be? Well, right now, Tigers sort 146 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: of shooting. He's he's already declared he's not going to 147 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: play a full season on the tour, but he'd like 148 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: to play in a couple of individual events, and he 149 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:40,320 Speaker 1: says he's shooting for the Open, which is what they 150 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: call it over and across the pond. We call it 151 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,560 Speaker 1: the British Open here, and that's in July at St. 152 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: Andrew's where he has won two of his three Claret jugs, 153 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: and that would be something. But before that, there were 154 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: two majors here, the Masters in Augusta in April and 155 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 1: the US Open at the Venerable Country Club in Brookline, Massachusetts, 156 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: which comes on Farther Day weekend in June. Speaking of 157 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 1: Father's Day, are we going to see the rare father's 158 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: son combo out there? Because give Charley what about six 159 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: years and maybe he could make the tour. Can can 160 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: we see that the Father's Son team. Yeah, I mean 161 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: the Tiger would be in his fifties. Um, you know, 162 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 1: maybe Tiger would be on the Champions Tour by then. 163 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: But wouldn't that be something hut to come out in 164 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: Father's Son, the two of them playing in the same 165 00:08:27,160 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: foursome and a real competitive p G A match that 166 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: would be something else. By the way, a shout out 167 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: to our other partner in crime, Scarlet Fou she is 168 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: off this week, Come on back. We'll see you next year. 169 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 1: Right number of the week, Scarlett. I don't know how 170 00:08:45,600 --> 00:08:47,439 Speaker 1: you do it. I'm telling you. Man. If once Covid 171 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: ends we're going to Vegas, it's luck, It's all U. 172 00:08:50,880 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: Today we're joined by Boston Globe sports columnists and associate 173 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: editor Dan Shaughnessy. He has written a new book, Uh 174 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: wish it last it Forever, Life with the Larry Bird Celtics. Dan. 175 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: I am so grateful you joined us and and I 176 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: was going through some of the pages of your book. 177 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: Love it, man, love it. It would tell me about 178 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,559 Speaker 1: the love of trying to put this book together. Well 179 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: you just like the billion beers on the cover, which 180 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 1: that going on? But no, it was Mike knows, I mean, 181 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 1: he's from around in Boston area here, and so that 182 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: team was very finally embraced in its time. And I 183 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: still believe the six Celtics best team ever. But what 184 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: this was, I mean, everybody knows who won the games, 185 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 1: and this is no attempt to go back and go 186 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: over the history of how good they were and how 187 00:09:41,240 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: many Hall of famers and what the stats were and 188 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 1: how many times Larry's MVP. Really, this is kind of 189 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: a pandemic look into a different time in the NBA 190 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: when it really emerged from a league where the finals 191 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: are on tape delay, and and they were small time 192 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: and and we're not the global entity that they are today. 193 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: And and in that time, the media was really up 194 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,719 Speaker 1: close and personal, as as Mike knows, I mean, I 195 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: when they showed the last Dance on ESPN, I kept 196 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: seeing pictures of my young self sitting at courtside where 197 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: they used to allow the lowly media to sit. And 198 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: that all went away when they figured out we can 199 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:14,959 Speaker 1: sell these things for a lot of money and kick 200 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 1: the media upstairs, and and our access went away with it. 201 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: And that's okay, that's the way things heavy evolved. But 202 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 1: Mike and I are both glad we got to do 203 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: it at a time when there was great close as 204 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: great proximity. It's like we were on the team because 205 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: they needed the coverage from the newspapers and they let 206 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: us in. We were on the buses to practice, we 207 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: were on the floor during the games. We stayed in 208 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 1: the same hotel as Flute, commercial hotel lobbies, hotel bars, 209 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: so we were able to tell the fans and the 210 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:45,440 Speaker 1: readers what they were like. And that Celtic team, the Bird, Parish, Mikhael, 211 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: dj Walton, very special team, a lot of characters, and 212 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: this book is just kind of a love letter to 213 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: that time in the NBA when it really emerged as 214 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: a as a global product and a time when when 215 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,199 Speaker 1: the lowly media was able to get up close and 216 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: personal and tell you what they were like. Well, Dan, 217 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,439 Speaker 1: I read the book and we had the conversation on 218 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: another podcast about this and one of my favorite stories 219 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: in the book. I think it was out in Salt 220 00:11:08,760 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: Lake City, Larry Bird was one rebound away from a 221 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 1: quadruple double, and tell the story out you were at 222 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,840 Speaker 1: the courtside, you actually walked down and talked to him. Yeah, 223 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,679 Speaker 1: we'd get the stat sheet between quarters, and he had 224 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: come out in the third quarter they would just killing 225 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz. And I looked at the Lion score 226 00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 1: and he had he was one steel away from the quadruple. 227 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 1: He had nine steels in three quarters and um he 228 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: has you know, rebounds assistant and uh and and points obviously. 229 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,959 Speaker 1: And at the time, I think Nate Dermott had the 230 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: only quadruple double NBA NBA history, There's probably been a 231 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 1: handful since. So I saw this thing and I just 232 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 1: raced down the end of the bench like high school 233 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:49,439 Speaker 1: and uh. I walked past the scores stable and behind 234 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,119 Speaker 1: the bench and I tapped on the show. I said, hey, knucklehead, 235 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: you can get out back out there. What are you doing? 236 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 1: And he just said, get the hell out of here, Scoop. 237 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: They called me Scoop and uh and then but he 238 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: was asked about it after the game, and I don't know, 239 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 1: if you know, thirty five years later he regrets not 240 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 1: not going for that, but they were way ahead and 241 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 1: he was just saving himself for the next game in 242 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: the trip. And that's kind of how it was wired then. 243 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: But I think today a guy probably get out there 244 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:16,720 Speaker 1: and go get that. I mean like, if that happened today, 245 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: you'd have your press packs probably revoked, right and you'd 246 00:12:19,400 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 1: probably be sent to the press room to watch the 247 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: rest of the game. Yeah, it would be found upon, 248 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I remember those days when the 249 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: Celtics and the Pistons were tangling, like, oh, man, I 250 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 1: trust me. And I I was a young and back 251 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 1: in Detroit covering the Pistons on the other side of that, 252 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,840 Speaker 1: and I'm looking and I'm like, man, it's like, you know, 253 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,280 Speaker 1: and I thought we had it that you know, I 254 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 1: don't want to mention the game, you know, the game 255 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: I'm talking about, And I thought we had it and 256 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 1: then we didn't. And I'm like, oh my goodness, gracious, 257 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: but you know what I can tell you to that 258 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 1: point that this, this is one of the things how 259 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: the league has changed. He'd watched the end of these 260 00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: games today and they're all in basin after the game, 261 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 1: hugging the other team and you know, meet the All 262 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,839 Speaker 1: Star game, decide how to form the super team for 263 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: next time. We'll all get together and we all love 264 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: each other. But there wasn't that then, and the hatred 265 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: between the Celtics and Pistons was so real. Every year 266 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 1: when Larry Birr would named an All Star starter, because 267 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: the fans vote for the starters and then there's a 268 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 1: panel that votes for the reserves, he would come up 269 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: to us and say, Okay, I'm on that All Star 270 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: team again. You let me know when they announced reserves 271 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: because I hate it when Lambia is one of them reserves, 272 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 1: he says, because it's all it ruins my All Star weekend. 273 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: I gotta go practice with him and get on the 274 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: team bus. After practice, he's sitting in the front row 275 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 1: and he says good morning Larry, and they go go 276 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:40,520 Speaker 1: screw you, Bill. That's how he was. He was driven by. 277 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: It was not like they were going to get together 278 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: and decide to play on the same team next year. 279 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: Since this is the Bloomberg business of sports, it's no 280 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: secret that Larry Bird probably still has his first communion 281 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: money tucked away somewhere. But he challenged you challenged him, 282 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: or he challenged you to a free throw shooting contest 283 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: with a fully bandaged hand. Yeah, there was always a 284 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,680 Speaker 1: thing like you refereed some of their practices and and 285 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, you know what they were like. But a tiny, 286 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: little gym and a great Orthodox college that nobody could 287 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: find and read like that because the media had trouble finding. 288 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: The out of town media never would so that was 289 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: very private. Nobody bothered him. And but Larry, he just 290 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: he was like you said, keeps the first dollar he 291 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: ever made. And you'd walk into the gym and he'd 292 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 1: be standing thirty feet away and he'd say dollar and 293 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: shoot for money, and if you nodded and he made it, 294 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: you gave him a one, and if he missed it, 295 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 1: he gave you one after practice. And it was always 296 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: trying to get your money by his shooting. And he 297 00:14:32,840 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 1: had busted up his hand in the playoffs during eighty five. 298 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: It was actually a barroom episode, unfortunately, but he was 299 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: playing with tape on his hand during practice and I'm like, 300 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: that's unusual. I said, you can't play in a game 301 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: like that, and he said, Scoop, I could take my 302 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: whole hand make more shots than you. And he clearly 303 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,240 Speaker 1: had done this before. It was some sort of a 304 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,760 Speaker 1: pool hustle kind of Deally had. And he says, we'll 305 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: do a hundred free throws, five dollars a throw. I'll 306 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: take my whole hand up and we'll see who can 307 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: shoot with tape in his hand. And I'm like, I 308 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: guess I can get a story out of this. Bringing on. 309 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: And I was a good free throw shooting in high 310 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: school like most of us bench guys, and so you know, 311 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 1: they taped his hand like a boxing glove. He had 312 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: a bald fist, he had no fingers and just a 313 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: ball of hand. And we rebounded for each other rounds 314 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: of ten and he he made like six out of 315 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: ten the first time, pushing him up there, and I 316 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: made six easy enough, and then heat the second round, 317 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: I'm rebounding and he goes, oh, I figured this out, 318 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 1: and he did. They all started going in and he 319 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: was just pushing him from the line and I wasn't 320 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: even moving, just rebounding each one swish after another. So 321 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 1: now when I go out there, I'm seeing five dollar 322 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 1: bills flying through the air every time I let go on. 323 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: And uh, he got me for hunding sixty dollars and 324 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: and never forgot it. If if you run into him 325 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 1: today and say, hey, Larry, how much did you take 326 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: scoop board with with the bet, He'd say I got 327 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty extra dollars in my pocket. And 328 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: that's just the way he was well man. I obviously 329 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: Larry Bird went to the Michael Jordan's School of the 330 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 1: hustle man, because but those you don't. You probably won't 331 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: see that in this time in age today. But that 332 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 1: that's really neat. I mean, here's one. Mike knowes this one. 333 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,720 Speaker 1: You know again, our seats were down by the by 334 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: the bench, so in this that the old garden, we're 335 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 1: right next to the bench. And Larry had a shooting routine. 336 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: Everybody in Boston knew it. You know. Some of the 337 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 1: times the camera cuza sneak in and take a peek. 338 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: But the old Boston garden dark and cold in the afternoon. 339 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: He'd get in there around four thirty shoot around one 340 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: equipment guy rebound for him, and I would go early 341 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: for the night game and set up alongside with my 342 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: stone age computer and uh. He'd come over and say, Scoop, 343 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,680 Speaker 1: what are you working on? And he had a free 344 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 1: throw streak going one time. The NBA record then was 345 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: eight eight in a row by Calvin Murphy. I said, well, 346 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,400 Speaker 1: I'm writing a story about your free throw streak. You're 347 00:16:44,440 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 1: in the sixties now, so this is going to go 348 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: out to Maine in the Cape and early edition. Don't 349 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 1: miss one tonight, or I'm gonna look like a jackass 350 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: in the paper tomorrow. Because he got the streak. He goes, 351 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: I got your scoop. Well, sure enough, he gets filed 352 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 1: in the first half, goes to the line, makes the 353 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: first one, turns and winks at me before stake back 354 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: in the second one. I mean, who does that? Who 355 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: even things like that? That's some pointing out. I'm gonna say, Babe, Ruth, 356 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: this ball is going out right here, man, Dan, How 357 00:17:15,240 --> 00:17:18,399 Speaker 1: has the game changed from the era when you and 358 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: Lynchy we're covering the Boston Celtics to the NBA game today? 359 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: On the business sense, well, this gets tricky. I mean, 360 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: you know, on the business end, it's I mean, the 361 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 1: money is so big and and obviously it's a product 362 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,440 Speaker 1: of it's a popular product. And they Christmas Day for instance, 363 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, there used to be one game Christmas Day 364 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: and the Knicks would play at home because they had 365 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 1: a large Jewish population and it wasn't going to affect 366 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,640 Speaker 1: the crowd. They could sell out the garden on Christmas Day. 367 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 1: So the Knicks played at home and TV would pick 368 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: that game up, So that was it. Now you've got 369 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: a five game extravaganza, you know, coast to coast and 370 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: time zones and you know, featuring all the best teams, 371 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: and it's it's a it's a great popular product for them. Um, 372 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: the money that the players may I mean, you know, 373 00:18:00,840 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: you're talking about you know, half billion dollar contracts now, 374 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: and I mean it was always we always thought it 375 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 1: was big, but but it's just exponentially so much bigger now. 376 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: And and with that, you know, it's just it's harder 377 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: to get any kind of you know, to get to 378 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:16,239 Speaker 1: know the players or to get near him, and and 379 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,719 Speaker 1: they connect with fans on social media directly, and franchises 380 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,359 Speaker 1: are worth you know, astronomical amounts of money. So you know, 381 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 1: it's just a very money product. And tickets are so expensive. 382 00:18:24,880 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: I mean, try try go into a nixt game or something. 383 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: Now it's it's like, I don't know how people do it. 384 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: A lot of corporate money I suppose going into it, 385 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: but it's a very expensive product. And uh that just 386 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:36,800 Speaker 1: wasn't the case then. So a little bit you know, 387 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: taken away from the common folks. And I think the 388 00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: players have you know, at the same time gotten a 389 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,120 Speaker 1: little bit away from from everybody else because the money 390 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 1: is so great. You see it in all sports, but 391 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 1: that league in particular, it's it's it's way way beyond 392 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,080 Speaker 1: our our imagination. And one of the central themes obviously 393 00:18:56,000 --> 00:18:58,719 Speaker 1: was COVID nineteen. Which league is best prepared to make 394 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 1: it to the finish line with all their protocols. Boy, Mike, 395 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: that's a good question. I mean the NFL, they just 396 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: go on as if nothing's happening, you know, then then 397 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 1: they changed the rules on the fly, when when it does. 398 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: We just saw it this week with Carson Wentz, the quarterback. 399 00:19:12,720 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: I mean the old the rules of last week. He 400 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: couldn't play this weekend, but everybody wants him to play. 401 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 1: And the the Colts are good and so they've they've reconfigured 402 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: the rules on vaccinated unvaccinated and COVID and five day, 403 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:29,159 Speaker 1: ten day, etcetera. So anyway, they they fell into it 404 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 1: right from the jump. And the first year this, you know, 405 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 1: we hit in March there in their off season, so 406 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: they got six months to figure it out, while the 407 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: others are all on the fly. And uh, they they 408 00:19:38,680 --> 00:19:40,880 Speaker 1: had their whole season and you know, move a game 409 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 1: here and they're like like that, it's gonna be challenging 410 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: the next six weeks clearly as they get through their playoffs, 411 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: but they they tend to just soldier on regardless, and 412 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: they have big rosters. They have fifty three man rosters. 413 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: That game the other night with the Saints were trying 414 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: to play, it was a farce. But people watching TV 415 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: don't know that the Saints offensive linemen or the wrong 416 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,199 Speaker 1: on guys, or the second or third stringers. I mean, 417 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,600 Speaker 1: they're just they're just looking at the quarterbacks and skill 418 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: positions in the uniforms and they see they see eleven 419 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: Saints out there, so they're okay with it. You notice 420 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: it more clearly NBA right now when you've got you know, 421 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: what used to be fifteen man rosters now I don't 422 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: know the D League guys whatever, but you know teams 423 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: are having trouble getting eight guys healthy enough to play. 424 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: That's that's problematic. So the winter sports, you know, they're 425 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: just getting getting crushed with it. And then you've got 426 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: the Canadian rules coming in and this is just it's 427 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: it's messy. So I I uh, I think football just 428 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 1: gets away with it better than anybody. Like everything else. 429 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: The NBA Commissioner Adam Silver says, no, we're not stopping. 430 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: We're going to keep on going. We have no reason 431 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 1: to stop. What do you think about that? I understand. 432 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: I mean I think that the whole country, the appetite 433 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: for this is so people are so worn out, um 434 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: and and we see it every day with the schools 435 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 1: and businesses and just in your daily lives, and you know, 436 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean every family is dealing with it. I mean 437 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 1: the people. I feel worse for the people who've got 438 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: to get daycare, you know. I mean, all of a sudden, 439 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: they their child can't go to daycare, that that's closed, 440 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:10,399 Speaker 1: and then you still want to keep your job. And 441 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: there's a lot of suffering. I mean there's there's the 442 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: medical suffering and the human suffering, but but the hardships 443 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:19,239 Speaker 1: on families trying to scramble to take care of their 444 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: children and still deal with all these absences and quarantines 445 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: and isolations. That's enormous toll on the country, and people 446 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: are just worn out by it. So I don't worry 447 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,199 Speaker 1: about these sports leagues too much. It's been it's been 448 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,439 Speaker 1: nice to have him again. It's great to have crowds 449 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: at the games. I hope they can continue um, and 450 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: they seem to be of a mindset to go ahead 451 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 1: and do that right now. Baseball, Major League Baseball Showhyotani 452 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: to me was the story of the year in baseball. 453 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: It's an amazing story, Mike. I mean the fact that 454 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: this is the Babe Ruth of of this century and 455 00:21:51,080 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: and there you have it. And the guy wanted to 456 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: to do both and and a team allowed him to 457 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: do both, so that the picture who started the All 458 00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,199 Speaker 1: Star Game for the American League was also of the 459 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,760 Speaker 1: home run champion and that's uh, we haven't seen that 460 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:05,760 Speaker 1: in a hundred years. And and the consensus m VP 461 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: with the team that's not very good. It's a shame 462 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 1: his team is not better. We'll see if that shakes out. 463 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: They've got all kinds of other issues. But yeah, when 464 00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: they were playing and when it was going, that's that's 465 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 1: a draw. And he's really uh, he's really fun. He 466 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,040 Speaker 1: seems to have a really good attitude about it and 467 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,639 Speaker 1: in a great draw for the fans. And when they 468 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: had the All Star Game, it was a huge draw. 469 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: I mean, these guys in the home run derby and 470 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: he's starting pitching the All Star Game and and UH 471 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: has never done anything to disgrace the uniform or to 472 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 1: make you challenge him. He's just he's all about loving 473 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: the game, and that's really good for baseball. We're talking 474 00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: about the NFL and how they conduct business, but it's 475 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:47,400 Speaker 1: a different time. It's totally different from when bluntly, when 476 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 1: we were in the locker room when, especially when I 477 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:53,399 Speaker 1: was in the locker room of the USFL, I remember 478 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: covering that and I kind of missed that league that was. 479 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: That was a pretty good league. I wish that would 480 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:04,000 Speaker 1: have expanded more. Uh, do you think any auxiliary league's 481 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: football leagues DAN can compete with the National Football League? 482 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: I do not. I mean, it's it's an admirable quest. 483 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: And I'm sure there were people sixty seven years ago 484 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: that doubting that the a f L would would take off. 485 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,640 Speaker 1: And the a f L did take off, and it 486 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: it worked, and they took on the NFL and within 487 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,119 Speaker 1: a decade there was a merger and they were beating 488 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,360 Speaker 1: them in the Super Bowl. And that was a wonderful 489 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: time in in professional sports to have an upstart league 490 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 1: in that sport. I just think today it's the NFL 491 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,919 Speaker 1: is such a powerhouse. They're so daunting. They've got the 492 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: perfect television product. They've got the gambling, they've got the fantasy, 493 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: they've got the once a week, they've got a game 494 00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: with with violence and and it lends itself to betting 495 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: and big rosters and around the country. With the college 496 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: you know, totally free farm system of colleges playing, I mean, 497 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: it's just it's just marvelous. And they've got they've got 498 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 1: revenue sharing like nobody else where. The because they only 499 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: play once a week, the Kansas City Chiefs can have 500 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 1: the same piece of the television pie that the New 501 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: York Football Giants haven't. You can't replicate that in the 502 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: other sports. So anyway, it's it's a perfect model. And 503 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,679 Speaker 1: I just think it's it's too tall a task to do. 504 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,679 Speaker 1: There's enough talent out there, I mean, to stock teams. 505 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: There's the great players everywhere, and you could, but the 506 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,719 Speaker 1: products is going to be hard, to hard hard to 507 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:24,800 Speaker 1: come up against this. You know, this would be like 508 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,159 Speaker 1: you're going up against Google or something right now. I 509 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 1: just I just don't know how you do it. Danda. 510 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:33,960 Speaker 1: Earlier this week, we lost John Madden at the age 511 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,640 Speaker 1: of eighty five years old, certainly one of the most 512 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: recognizable guys across all generations. Now, if we brought up 513 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: Howard Cosell, nobody under forty would even know we were 514 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,720 Speaker 1: talking about. But we bring up John Madden, and because 515 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: of e A Sports and Madden nineteen eighteen fifteen would 516 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: have go back to when it first started. Everybody knows him, 517 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: uh as big an impact on the game as anybody 518 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: you can remember, well, I think because of what you 519 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: say about out the video game. And that's how so 520 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: many young people came to know the sport, came to 521 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 1: know players. And in the whole way it's taken off 522 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: with fantasy and and betting and guys having their pools 523 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,240 Speaker 1: and all this stuff. It's just been a powerhouse there. 524 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: And good for him on that. You and I are 525 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,719 Speaker 1: old enough to remember him as a sideline coach and 526 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: the old Oakland Raiders, they were formidable and they were 527 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: again part of the upstart af L with Al Davis 528 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: to the renegade, you know, looking like Johnny Cash running 529 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: the show out there and and he's got this this 530 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: you know, big lumbering coach whose arms are flying around 531 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: all the time, and and he became famous on television 532 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: in the commercials and then if you know, the the 533 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: light beer commercials tastes great, less filling stuff. And then 534 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,719 Speaker 1: of course with the broadcasts and and it became a 535 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: deal where if they showed up, if Madden and Summer all, 536 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: we're at your game, it was a big game because 537 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: they were there and just a larger than life figure. 538 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: I do remember the teams he had when he won 539 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl and um and just he was a 540 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: character and if he started talking, he just he brought 541 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,479 Speaker 1: you in. He just wanted to hear what he had 542 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,480 Speaker 1: to say. You know, a lot like there was some 543 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 1: of those Al McGuire, the old basketball guys could just 544 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 1: get into these stories and just go on forever. And 545 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,080 Speaker 1: he had that and he brought it to a national 546 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: television audience. He was great for the league. And then 547 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,119 Speaker 1: of course the video game became the later extension of 548 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,879 Speaker 1: his career. But I still remember him on the sideline 549 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,199 Speaker 1: and and you know, there were there were things that 550 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,200 Speaker 1: that team out there had an identity, you know, kind 551 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,639 Speaker 1: of Hell's Angels and football and and the fans and 552 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: the black Hole and all the stuff they had going. 553 00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:38,159 Speaker 1: But he was he was a fair minded coach. I 554 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:43,239 Speaker 1: know that one story in Boston in August of ninety eight, 555 00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: I believe there was a horrible collision on a game 556 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: out there and and and Madden's safety Jack Tatum uh 557 00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 1: Kalida with the Patriots wide receiver Darryl Stanley and paralyzed Stanley. 558 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: Stanley was never walked again and and died in early death. 559 00:26:57,840 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: I don't know a few decades later. And you know, 560 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: Tatum would never apologize, didn't visit him in the hospital, 561 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: wrote a book they called me Assassin. It was very 562 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: unrepentant about it. And Madden visited Stingley in the hospital 563 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: every day out in the Bay Area until he was 564 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 1: able to travel. And Madden stepped away from the sideline 565 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 1: a year later and cited that as as as one 566 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: of the reasons. So he had a great side to him. 567 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,120 Speaker 1: And of course so many friends and and just around football. 568 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: It's it's it's going to be nice to see the tributes. 569 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: It was. It was weird that they did that giant 570 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 1: video testimony to him last weekend. It just ran and 571 00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: they promoted it forever, and then it ran and he 572 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,639 Speaker 1: died like five days later. Amazing. Yeah, well, yeah, I 573 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: remember that it's I don't know if you want to 574 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:45,560 Speaker 1: gold as a happier time with John Madden on the sidelines, 575 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: But I remember this game and uh it's how the 576 00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: Holy Roller came to play, uh with Dave Casper, and 577 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: which is why now they've set up a brand new rule. 578 00:27:57,080 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: Uh that was not brand new. But after that it's like, no, 579 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: you can't purposely fumble and kick the ball into the 580 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: end zone. But but Madden talked about this story when 581 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,159 Speaker 1: you see it later on in life, Uh that you 582 00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: know they were talking about, you know, is it a 583 00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: touchdown and the officials, according to what they're saying, was 584 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: and the announcer said, yes, it is. Get your big 585 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: butt out of here. And I'll never forget that, and 586 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: seeing him on the sidelines to see and even a 587 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: guy like me, I can I cannot remember him when 588 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: he played in the NFL. I mean, he did it all. 589 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: He was He was the quintessential football guy. Dan. Yeah, 590 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,880 Speaker 1: there was some nice clips from that that big video 591 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: thing that they did where I don't know, it's Belichick 592 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: I think says when you if you saw him across 593 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: the field, he knew it was him, You knew who 594 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: it was, and he knew there was only one thing 595 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: he could be. He was. He was the coach of 596 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 1: the Openmators. That was it. And uh I actually, Leslie, 597 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 1: this are a good friend of my in mind, who 598 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 1: was the first woman, you know, kind of a pioneer 599 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 1: sideline reporter for CBS and um is in the Hall 600 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: of Fame and Canton and all that stuff. She was 601 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 1: very friendly with him. And I remember being in New 602 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: York once. He lived at the Dakota if I'm remembering correctly, 603 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: where John Lennon was assassinated, and um we went and 604 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 1: hung out with him one night in his apartment. It 605 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: was it was fascinating because he was this is in 606 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:26,040 Speaker 1: the eighties. He was just emerging. It's just like, you know, 607 00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:29,520 Speaker 1: he didn't expect to be famous or clever or like, 608 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,040 Speaker 1: you know, really rich. He wasn't expecting any of that. 609 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 1: It just kind of happened. And uh so he maintained 610 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 1: the humbleness about it. And of course he didn't fly. 611 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: So he had the Madden Cruiser and that was part 612 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: of his identity to you know, this this giant vehicle 613 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: going all around the country kind of the party bus, 614 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: and and um just it was hard to find anybody 615 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,120 Speaker 1: didn't have good things to say about him. And and 616 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,160 Speaker 1: you know Mike would knows this. But you know, when 617 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots won their first Super Bowl in New Orleans, 618 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 1: it was twenty years ago now, it was February of 619 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: two thousand two, right after the towers fell and and 620 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 1: um that Super Bowl. You know, Brady was not a rookie, 621 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: but it was a first year player and they were 622 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: They came into the possession of the ball late and 623 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 1: Madden said they should take a knee and just go 624 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: for overtime, and uh and nope, and he was wrong. 625 00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: And there was a lot of you know, hooting on 626 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: him around here about that, but it was never vicious. 627 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: It was just like, wow, they even did the opposite 628 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: of what John Madden said, and he got away with it. 629 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people don't realize he in 630 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,840 Speaker 1: this all maddened piece. I watched it again last night 631 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 1: and he said, you know, I went to school. He said, 632 00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: I'm a teacher above all, I'm a teacher, and the teachers, Uh, 633 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: when you coach your teaching. He had two sons, Joe 634 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,040 Speaker 1: and Mike. Mike went and played football at Harvard and 635 00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: Joe went and played football at Brown, which is, you know, all, 636 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,480 Speaker 1: how do you believe when someone who grew up in 637 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: Alameda County, outside of outside of Oakland. Yeah, he really 638 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: valued education. And I remember I remember him talking about that, 639 00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: uh the one time we were in his apartment, because 640 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: he just he looked at it as are you kidding me? 641 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 1: You know, we got you know, guys who can play 642 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: ball and they're going to get to go to the 643 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: ivy legal why wouldn't you do that? And uh So, yeah, 644 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: that that was like he was really proud of that, 645 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,560 Speaker 1: and uh and and I think it shows something about 646 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 1: priorities and having perspective and things in the right place. 647 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: Boston Globe sports columnist and associate editor Dan Shaunessy, you 648 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: are the man. Thank you, sir for taking time out 649 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: and just rapping with us about sports and reminiscing and 650 00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: about the business of sports. We appreciate it, Dan, Thank you, sir. 651 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,400 Speaker 1: Enjoyed it very much. Fellis thanks to Dan Chaunessy. He is, 652 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: just like you, Lynchy, a bastion of knowledge. And and 653 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,240 Speaker 1: I get a kick out of listening to you guys 654 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 1: when you guys were covering the Boston Celtics in the 655 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,920 Speaker 1: era when I was just a young cub covering the 656 00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 1: Detroit Pistons back in Detroit. I love listening to the 657 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: stories with you guys. You know, and is a great writer. 658 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: He's a great guy. He's a great friend, and he's 659 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: very courageous. I mean, he he was not afraid to 660 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: knock somebody. And when he does, he shows up in 661 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: the locker room the next day and takes his medicine 662 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: from the players, which is always isn't He isn't pleasant, 663 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: but he's uh. As you can see just in the 664 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,800 Speaker 1: conversation with the with the Celtics in this book. I mean, 665 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: who gets up from the scorers table and goes down 666 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 1: and taps Larry Bird on the shoulder and says, you're 667 00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: one steal away from a quadruple double. You know. I 668 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: mean I just wouldn't if if I knew it and 669 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: I thought I was had a good relationship with him, 670 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: I still wouldn't have the guts to get on to 671 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: do it. That was great to listen to you. I 672 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: I listened to those stories, and and then I listened 673 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: to you guys, and and of course you guys all 674 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: reflected on John Madden and what he contributed to the league. Uh. 675 00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: And I also listened to because you guys have so 676 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: much of a knowledge about basketball, about how the league 677 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 1: has changed today, Uh, from what it was you know, 678 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 1: back in the mid eighties. From a business this stands. 679 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: It's all about the broadcast money. And it it amazes 680 00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 1: me how this continues on that. That's the reason why, 681 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: especially with COVID. And I know some people out there, 682 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: why do you keep talking about COVID because COVID This 683 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: is horrible for me to say, outside of the fact 684 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: of the health obviously, of of what goes on out there, 685 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: COVID is bad for business. And and we had the 686 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: New York Mayor Bill de Blasio say that, Uh. And 687 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: it is true because games get canceled, performances get canceled, 688 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: and if games get canceled, that means TV revenue dries up. 689 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: And that's where another problem comes in. Well, you're absolutely 690 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,600 Speaker 1: right when we're seeing it in the Bowl games. Uh. 691 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,320 Speaker 1: And Dan mentioned it just you know, people with daycare, 692 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 1: people at home. It trickles down everywhere, from from the 693 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,600 Speaker 1: highest mountain of the financial empires to the simple little 694 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: family that's trying to put food on the table, get 695 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 1: to work and get the children to daycare. My goals 696 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 1: will be pick'm kids. Feels better to be than the 697 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: one than number five. I'll wear a number because of Mike. 698 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: We have a chance to go for three in a row. 699 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 1: Good numbers are a good time. When I first started 700 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 1: wearing the number, I would just have them proud Bloomberg 701 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:16,399 Speaker 1: Business of Sports, the number of the week. Time now 702 00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:21,279 Speaker 1: for the number of the week. Uh and uh, Scarlet Food, 703 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: she's off this week. So this means Dan, you are 704 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: the man going up against Lynchy. This is gonna be good. 705 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: This is like the Battle of the Titans, like Jeopardy 706 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: and you know, but they played the IBM computer. This 707 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: is good because you've got to Boston guys going, I 708 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: want to see this. Uh. This question is about Tom Brady. 709 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,839 Speaker 1: And of course you know we all know that Tom 710 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:48,800 Speaker 1: Brady before he played for the Buccaneers, uh where they 711 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 1: played the Buccaneers now today And before that he was 712 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,160 Speaker 1: with the New England Patriots. Of course everybody knows that. Uh. 713 00:34:55,200 --> 00:35:00,320 Speaker 1: Today Uh, the NFL and I say today, as says 714 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,960 Speaker 1: in just quotes, they're getting second tired of Tom Brady 715 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 1: wrecking surface go to like tablets. Uh. Here's my question 716 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: to you, guys, how much is a Microsoft Surface go 717 00:35:18,920 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: to tablet according to Amazon dot Com. And I will 718 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 1: start with you, lynch mm hmm. I know that Microsoft 719 00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 1: paid four million for the deal. Um with the NFL, 720 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna bet that those things go for So I'm 721 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: gonna stay with the same number. I'm gonna stay with 722 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: four four dollars that it's going to be a parallel 723 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: number to that four million for the deal they I'm 724 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,799 Speaker 1: gonna say four hundred dollars and Microsoft Surface go to town. 725 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:56,399 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go higher. I'm gonna say nine. Oh, Dan, 726 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,040 Speaker 1: you went way too high man, when you say you 727 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: were gonna go high. I'm like, he's got this is 728 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: four nine dollars and nine nine cents. The prices right rules? 729 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 1: Are we in enforcing them? Yeah? And we again enforcing 730 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: prices right rules. I got ripped off. Well, now I'll 731 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,480 Speaker 1: explain something about that because there are many other surface 732 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: tablets that cost more. Now there's another one that's seven 733 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: hundred forty five dollars nine cents. Uh, that's the one 734 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,040 Speaker 1: with the ten point five in touch screen tablet. And 735 00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 1: he got the Pro eight Platinum that's almost nine hundred dollars. 736 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,439 Speaker 1: I can go on, but the one that we're talking 737 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:44,800 Speaker 1: about the surface go to uh that is four hundred 738 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: forty nine dollars and cents eight hundred dollars. Which which 739 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 1: one do you have? I'm out of touch, man, I 740 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:56,879 Speaker 1: still got a flip phone. You could tell me yea 741 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: and shown see you are the man. Thank you so 742 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: much for joining us. Thank you. This is the Bloomberg 743 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,640 Speaker 1: Business of Sports show. Well, we're here each and every 744 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,879 Speaker 1: week at the same time, plus online wherever you get 745 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,880 Speaker 1: your podcast. You can catch those Mondays, Wednesdays and Thursdays. 746 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm Michael Barr on Twitter at Big Bar Sports, and 747 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,319 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Lynch at Lynch w CVV. Thanks for joining us. 748 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: Tune in again next week for the latest on the 749 00:37:20,200 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 1: stories moving big money in the world of sports. You're 750 00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:25,759 Speaker 1: listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports and Bloomberg Radio Round 751 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 1: the Boom.