1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Good Morning. This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,080 Speaker 1: Today is Labor Day in the United States, and so 4 00:00:17,160 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: this week we're going to be talking about work and 5 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: how we feel about it. Today's tip is about how 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: to become happier in a job that feels like just 7 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: a paycheck. I decided to do an episode on this 8 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: topic after getting a note from a listener who is 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: in just such a position. She noted that the things 10 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: she cared about, volunteering at church, spending time with loved ones, 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 1: consuming stories, traveling had nothing to do with her job, 12 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: or really with most normal jobs. She wrote that her 13 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: job was good as these things went, but during her 14 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: work hours, I feel like I am in an adult 15 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: form of time out. I sit in my office chair 16 00:00:57,640 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: and think about my life choices, will values are on hold? 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 1: How can I make this time count for more than 18 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: just to paycheck. I followed up because I wanted to 19 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: know why this listener had taken a job that made 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: her feel like she was an adult time out in 21 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: the first place. I learned as I suspected that there 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: were a lot of upsides to this job. The sort 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: that make it hard to quit. She was paid well. 24 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: Her official schedule required working four nine hour days, so 25 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: she was off every single Friday, a perk that certainly 26 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: had its benefits for family and community involvement. She got 27 00:01:34,400 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: benefits like tuition reimbursement, free access to a fitness center, 28 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: and other discounts. When she came in late. Sometimes no 29 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: one complained, no one tried to micromanager. She liked her colleagues. 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: She was just well board. And while spending thirty six 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: hours per week in a boring job is better than 32 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 1: spending fifty hours a week in a boring job, I 33 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: know I'd rather work fifty exciting, challenging hours than thirty 34 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: six worring ones. I would not be able to report 35 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: to a job day after day where I felt bored, 36 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: and I don't want that for anyone else either. So 37 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: the question was what our listeners should do about it first, 38 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: before anyone gets worried, My first advice is not to quit. 39 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,880 Speaker 1: That is an option and might be necessary at some point, 40 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: But if daily life is tolerable, then the wisest first 41 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: step may to be to try to improve the current situation. Fortunately, 42 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: there are all kinds of ways to turn the job 43 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: you have into a job you'd love. I suggested spending 44 00:02:32,240 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: the next six to twelve months truly focused on improving 45 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 1: the situation and crafting her position into something she found 46 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: more interesting. First, she should seek out more challenging work. 47 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 1: A few job descriptions are carved in stone. People are 48 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 1: happiest when they are making progress on difficult but doable things. Now, 49 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: I don't recommend going to your manager and saying I'm bored. 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: I suspect most managers would react to that in the 51 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: same way I do when my kids knock on my 52 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 1: door and announce this. Instead, anyone in this situation should 53 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: come up with their own ideas for using their time better. 54 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: Look around the organization and see what's working and what's not. 55 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: Could you use your particular skills to improve what's not working? 56 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,760 Speaker 1: Are there departments or teams who seem to be doing 57 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: cool stuff? Could you try helping out on projects there? 58 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: Talk to lots of people, lunches, coffees, walking meetings. Figure 59 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: out what work you'd find more interesting, and figure out 60 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: how you can get involved. Maybe it's an internal move, 61 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: but it could also just be reallocating time. Our listener 62 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: who sent in this question had some available time during 63 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: slower periods. She could get involved in new areas during 64 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: this time, even if it wasn't officially part of her 65 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: job description. Of course, it's possible she wouldn't have all 66 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: the right skills for certain other projects, and that's where 67 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: some of the organization's benefits came into play. She had 68 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: a good tuition reimbursement policy, so she should definitely be 69 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: using that. Now. There may be some gray area here, 70 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 1: but in my mind, if the courses she chose were 71 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: plausibly related to her job, she could use some of 72 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:10,480 Speaker 1: her job downtime to study in complete assignments. This would 73 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 1: definitely remove the sense of being an adult time out. 74 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: She could also look for ways to be involved in 75 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: her organization's community. Joining our starting employee affiliation groups is 76 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 1: always good, and sometimes larger organizations have service projects or 77 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: conferences or community days that always need volunteers. While this 78 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: might not feel quite as meaningful to her as her 79 00:04:32,400 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 1: church volunteering, it would have some of the same upsides. Indeed, 80 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:38,840 Speaker 1: she could try to spearhead programs to do service events 81 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: for some of the same causes that her church supported. 82 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: Whether you're reading at an after school program on behalf 83 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: of your house of worship or your employer. It's all 84 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: good now. Of course, this might not work. I do 85 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 1: believe that six to twelve months of solid effort can 86 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: improve just about anything, whether that's a relationship or a hub. 87 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: That said, if she still felt an adult time out 88 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: after a year, she would have a few options. One 89 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,799 Speaker 1: is to consciously decouple her sense of self from her job. 90 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: Our listener was actually toying around with this concept already, 91 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,200 Speaker 1: as she told me, we roughly sleep and work for 92 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: the same amount of time each day. However, I don't 93 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: consider myself a sleeper as my primary identity. It's just 94 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: the thing I have to do. It isn't the whole 95 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: of who I am or the most valuable thing I do. 96 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: This is a valid point. It might help to really 97 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 1: keep work in context. If our listener worked thirty six 98 00:05:36,480 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: hours per week and slept eight hours per night, this 99 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: leaves seventy six hours for other things, and this is 100 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: a lot of time. She could consciously think about how 101 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 1: to maximize her enjoyment of these other hours, taking on 102 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: serious volunteer rules, indulging in longer and more exotic vacations, 103 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: and planning in adventures with friends and family on the 104 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,600 Speaker 1: long weekends that she had every weekend. She could also 105 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: decide to ride things out for a while, but ramp 106 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 1: up savings and perhaps start a side hustle with the 107 00:06:05,760 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 1: goal of achieving financial independence long before the normal retirement age. 108 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Knowing that in say eight years, she can completely control 109 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: her time might make the intervening years feel better. Or 110 00:06:17,800 --> 00:06:20,839 Speaker 1: and this is perhaps the best option, she could find 111 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: another job. People are often fearful of the unknown, especially 112 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: if the known is comfortable and has upsides that are 113 00:06:28,120 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: hard to replicate. But if working a four day week 114 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: was critical to our listener, I absolutely believe she could 115 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: find another job that might allow for that. I absolutely 116 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: believe that she could find more exciting work. I believe 117 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: she could even find more flexible and more interesting work 118 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: that paid more to We often tuck ourselves into silly 119 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: traps like, oh, if I get paid more, I'll just 120 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 1: have to do stuff I like less. But few people 121 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 1: have totally optimized their jobs. We take jobs because they're 122 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: hiring when we're looking, or because we know someone there 123 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 1: because it's an employer that we're familiar with. Broadening the search, 124 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: especially over a twelve month time frame could open up 125 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: all sorts of other possibilities for great gigs. And ultimately, 126 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: that's what I want for everyone listening to this to 127 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: absolutely love what you do. I want you to wake 128 00:07:21,480 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: up excited to go to work. I want you to 129 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: feel like you're making a difference in the world as 130 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: you work with people you respect and who inspire you 131 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: to be your best self. I also believe that with 132 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 1: concerted effort over a year or two, you could get there. 133 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 1: This labor day, Let's get to a place where labor 134 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:44,400 Speaker 1: is a meaningful, wonderful part of life, not the equivalent 135 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: of adult time out in the meantime. This is Laura. 136 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, and here's to making the most of 137 00:07:52,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: our time. Hey, everybody, I'd love to hear from you. 138 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: You can send me your tips, your questions, or anything else. 139 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: Just connect with me on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at 140 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: Before Breakfast Pod that's b E the number four then 141 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:17,040 Speaker 1: Breakfast p o D. 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