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Speaker 2: All right, man, we're back at the episode of Club

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Speaker 2: five to twenty Podcasts.

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Speaker 3: I'm the host.

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Speaker 2: My name is DJ Well Special special guests in the building.

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Speaker 2: To my left, we're gonna introduce my man's last is

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Speaker 2: my far left. We got my dog Bishop be hearing

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Speaker 2: out the prail LEAs how you were nasty?

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Speaker 4: What's somebody boy? Let's get to it man.

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Speaker 2: That smiss listen. I know you've been in league saying

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Speaker 2: shoes your whole life. Have you ever seen the black

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Speaker 2: Forces with the white license?

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Speaker 3: Nah? No, not promoted on the front of the podcast

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Speaker 3: like that.

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Speaker 4: Now, Yeah, it's the front line soldier ship.

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Speaker 1: Bro.

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Speaker 4: What you about thirteen?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, well I got you, bro. I know you

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Speaker 3: from LA.

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Speaker 4: You ain't signed the Vans, are you?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 3: Y sixty one?

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, I signed niggas to seven twenty deals over here.

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Speaker 2: But you got Mike on the seven seven whatever, He'll

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Speaker 2: give me the first six.

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Speaker 3: Get you there show. To my right, my dog young

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Speaker 3: notcho Young team. Got you what I'm chilling? Bro? What's

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Speaker 3: cool and nasty?

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Speaker 2: Let's get to it. That's my artist in production LLC

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Speaker 2: for Shure. You got the feats on today, man, I'm Gon.

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Speaker 2: Shout out to all Mama near Man, one of my

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Speaker 2: favorite shoot stores. Man the brand. I love them. They

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Speaker 2: always show love to me. So happy to be able

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Speaker 2: to get a package from him. Always gonna support for

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Speaker 2: sure for show Man got the early drop. Freaky Mike

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Speaker 2: said they need to tap in. He needs his size

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Speaker 2: twelves as well. We're gonna get you worked out for

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Speaker 2: that man. Yeah, for sure, Man, but last certain at

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Speaker 2: least Man to my left Man eleven year vet Man

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Speaker 2: LA's finest, one of the biggest plays, a big contract history.

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Speaker 3: Were gonna talk about it. Man.

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Speaker 2: We got Specter Dean with you, big dog. Appreciate you

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Speaker 2: pulling up Man.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 2: Yes, sure, Man, we do our research. Ship Man a

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Speaker 2: little bit Man for shure l A's finest Man. First

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Speaker 2: it's martsh Madness.

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Speaker 3: Man. You know Colorado.

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Speaker 1: How's it feel being alumni in Colorado and y'all turned

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Speaker 1: up for football like that?

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Speaker 3: Man? Oh no, that it was hard. Yeah, it brought

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Speaker 3: life to the city.

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Speaker 1: We didn't expect it because when I was there they

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Speaker 1: won like two games in a year like awful damn.

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Speaker 4: For a long time. What year you come out of

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Speaker 4: there or go Thered you go.

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Speaker 1: Went there in twenty eleven. Okay, left for fourteen, so

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Speaker 1: oh yeah they was cool. Yeah they was they won

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Speaker 1: two games. Hell right before then I got the.

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Speaker 3: Lin was a little bit dirty.

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Speaker 2: So but I couldn't imagine you was killing on campus

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Speaker 2: and that was come the same time. That's the hell

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Speaker 2: of the type of recruitment to pull up there.

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Speaker 3: No, we was, uh we were the team like on

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Speaker 3: campus and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So like when I was there, it was basketball schools crazy?

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Speaker 3: What made you choose Colorado?

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Speaker 1: I mean basically like I want to go to Pac

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Speaker 1: twelve because I really want to go to USC, but

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Speaker 1: they ain't offered me, so U c.

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Speaker 3: L A was kind of like I would just take you.

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Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I didn't want to go to Harvard

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Speaker 1: because of basketball.

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Speaker 3: So okay, what happened? Who else was recruiting you from LA? Right?

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Speaker 2: You're like we talk about high school, I like historic

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Speaker 2: high school place the killers in high school?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, I mean Larry Drew went to my

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Speaker 1: high school, McDonald's Americans, Larry Drew. I mean obviously you

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Speaker 1: played all the guys Drew, Tomorrow, BJ, Brandon, Jenny's Sorry's Brandon.

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Speaker 4: How would be j But you take a high school

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Speaker 4: b J high school.

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Speaker 3: J was nice, nice, okay, yeah, respect. I don't know, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I think you tell you what the killer that.

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Speaker 4: I know I was talking about earlier to them.

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Speaker 3: I don't believe DeAndre Daniels. Oh yeah, yeah I was.

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Speaker 4: I couldn't remember his name, but I'm like, I remember.

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Speaker 3: He was Brice Jones went to the Pelicans.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, bro in high school, like he went crazy in

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Speaker 5: au Bro. I think he was like a top ten

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I know what that is. On our team, the

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Speaker 3: three of us, he was the best one, no.

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Speaker 5: For sure, because he was like what six five he

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Speaker 5: was bigger than that, like six nine. Yeah, I remember

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Speaker 5: that he was cold.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, especially in high school. He playing a big three

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Speaker 3: last year. I don't know. Maybe I'm maybe I'm bro

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Speaker 3: Beindre Dan. It's like a Christian Wood kind of you know.

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Speaker 3: I got I got looking at would man.

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Speaker 5: I just remember he used to go on the au circuit.

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Speaker 5: He was he made a name for himself. I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: look for show for sure.

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Speaker 3: For sure.

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Speaker 2: Man, having that much out of high school, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, y'all was definitely getting the looks. But he

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Speaker 2: said you wanted to stay in the Pac twelve.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, not like so, I had like most of

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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve offers, most of the California school offers,

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Speaker 1: but I really want to go to USC. That's like

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Speaker 1: when my mom my brother went and all that, and

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Speaker 1: they only wanted to offer me.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy.

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Speaker 1: It is crazy how it works. Because they were asked

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Speaker 1: from the good school and not off from the basketball.

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Speaker 1: That don't make no sense. Oh, they probably just taking

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Speaker 1: it because what year was tomorrow? It was gone, you

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Speaker 6: But I'm just thinking like the guys that came after that,

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Speaker 6: and I can't think of nobody.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's tough. Yeah, because was going. Yeah, that's tough.

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Speaker 3: That's tough.

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Speaker 4: I mean, who else was cold at that time?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 4: In high school too? Was anybody else getting recruited.

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Speaker 3: Over Marcus is cold? Shout to move your Marcus class

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Speaker 3: level like one fiftieth in their class.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, and Davis gil Chris Marcus, Austin Rivers.

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Speaker 3: That's the hell. That's one of the best. Under saying

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Speaker 3: who who else is out west? That was all that's

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Carson was out West. He went state right, Yeah, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: Jabari Brown, Oregon?

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Speaker 4: Okay, uh why didn't you go to Oregon?

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Speaker 3: They what you basically? Organ? Yeah, dude, it's nice play

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Speaker 3: for Oaken Soldiers.

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Speaker 6: I know you're talking about. I had Brad Bill in

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Speaker 6: that class. I go to autumn A games. Who'd you

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Speaker 6: play you for?

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Speaker 3: Pumping run pumping roun?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, program when they had Lopez twins.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, who is the school? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Two?

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Speaker 1: Damn for the tickets or whatever, like oh wow, damn

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Speaker 1: eight years ago.

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Speaker 3: Some of that say, thirty game still chilling. The game

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Speaker 3: is the game. It's a wicked game. Got it?

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Speaker 6: Since we talk about college, you know, coming out of

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Speaker 3: What do you think you would have got?

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Speaker 1: Uh my, I don't think my n I L would

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Speaker 1: have been crazy going to Colorado sophomore in Colorada though, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it would have been stupid.

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Speaker 3: Do you think the freshman year?

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Speaker 6: Do you think you would have transferred after your freshman

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it depends on the bag that nigga would have

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Speaker 1: went to USC Like, so I was like runner up

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Speaker 1: to Tony Rowden coach. Yeah, he had much better so

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Speaker 1: he deserved it. But uh yeah, I mean they were

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Speaker 1: selling my jersey. They were selling like mustache gigs. I

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Speaker 1: store all types shit, So like, oh, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: it would have been.

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Speaker 6: Stupid, dumb seeing the kid with aj Debnta getting seven

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Speaker 6: million dollars.

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Speaker 3: That's crazy.

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Speaker 6: How would that affect you? Like, you know, because you

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Speaker 6: you you different than most of us, but you you

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Speaker 6: tapped in cryptocarents all that. I'm just gonna get to that.

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Speaker 1: But how would that affect you as a you know,

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Speaker 1: a student athlete. If they would have liked to offer

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Speaker 1: you seven million dollars, would that affect your mind going

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Speaker 1: to the league or you'd have been like, shiit seven million,

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Speaker 1: I'm cool. I think because I wanted to go to

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Speaker 3: Okay, I might have got hurt, been like you know.

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Speaker 1: What, Yeah, before that thought had been like nah, like

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Speaker 1: I still want to go to the league, Like it's

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Speaker 1: like even when you get some hype or whatever, like

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Speaker 1: you sold laser focused like yo, like I still want

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Speaker 1: to go to the league, so like all that shit

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Speaker 1: don't really matter, so you know, but once you get hurt,

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Speaker 1: it ain't really working out or whatever. Like my first

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Speaker 1: two years in the league, just sitting on the bench

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Speaker 1: watching I might have been like I got ten of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah I'm still broke.

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Speaker 3: Well yeah, yeah, I mean that's real. That's the fact. Real.

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Speaker 6: Hey, people don't know. We were just before you came here.

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Speaker 6: We was talking about your rookie year. Yeah, broke you

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Speaker 6: And now they tell me my budget was three thousand a.

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Speaker 3: Month mine, it's probably close to like ten damn no, no,

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Speaker 3: we're talking about we're not including.

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Speaker 6: Bills for you just to have probably something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I was like, damn was in Detroit. But

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Speaker 3: it may have been with money you got renting other

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Speaker 3: stuff you gotta do. Yeah, we were oh no, like

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Speaker 3: that's just like you know, and buy some extra clothes,

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Speaker 3: eat what everyone. Yeah iddress. I was wearing Team Geared

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Speaker 3: in I was running bands then, so it.

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Speaker 1: Might've been a little bit less than three to be honest,

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Speaker 1: like I was putting, I was thinking about like you know,

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Speaker 1: RNT car like any other little stuff do like.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, when I got in the league, my minim.

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Speaker 1: Was five hundred thousand, so like I was back before

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Speaker 1: inflation and Lebron James got a new TV so that's

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Speaker 1: getting no money?

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Speaker 5: Was that your parents are more so you like giving

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Speaker 5: you the game on how to treat your bread?

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Speaker 3: I mean both.

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Speaker 1: I mean my parents stressed like saving and stuff, and

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Speaker 1: you know you don't have like real money like that

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Speaker 1: you don't know, so I don't know if they necessarily knew,

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Speaker 1: but like you know, it's just about like don't blow it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I was real basic. I mean, this is I've

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Speaker 1: been the whole time. That's how I'm wrong with that.

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Speaker 1: They know who you are. You ain't got shure. That's

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Speaker 3: But that's true. That's true. Shit.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, did you think Corado Nigga injured? How's that draft process?

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Speaker 2: Like you talked about the mental a little bit. How

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Speaker 3: Uh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got hurt with junior or junior year

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Speaker 3: You don't do nothing because I couldn't work out.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I met with all the teams, like did

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Speaker 3: So I felt a couple of spots, but it wasn't

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Speaker 6: But like what made you go to the like cause

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Speaker 6: I had a similar thing happening, not to your extreme.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, no, it's not like business, not at all.

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Speaker 6: when I seen you go to the league and I'm

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Speaker 6: fast forward it because you went to obviously you went

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my guy guy. So when you got.

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Speaker 6: He was like, I'm comfortable with thirty two I don't, nigga,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that was That was when I was up for

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Speaker 3: I like three for thirty or four forty whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: I was given the three for thirty with a player option,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't want to.

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Speaker 6: I'm my bad and fast forward because I know you

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure, Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 1: Like with the Detroit stuff, it was like it taught

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Speaker 3: So stamming Guny is like a Miami heat disciple for sure.

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Speaker 1: So you got the three hour practices everything, tape tape

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Speaker 3: What I'm saying.

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Speaker 3: Things like that. Not a bad way, it's just like

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Speaker 3: They didn't they didn't do that. Yeah, So Detroit was

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Speaker 3: So when I got to Brooklyn with Kenny, it was love.

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Speaker 1: And then also just from a coaching standpoint, he had

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Speaker 3: Oh for sure, I think.

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Speaker 1: I think in my mind it takes about a year

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Speaker 1: So those are the guys that were like because we

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Speaker 1: I see in practice and I'd be killing it right

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Speaker 3: Gonna be all right, it's gonna work out.

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Speaker 1: We see what you're doing in practice, like you can

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Speaker 1: Something's gonna happen. And I don't even think I really

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Speaker 1: I think one year I played twelve games and those

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Speaker 3: Oh, you talk about when you.

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Speaker 3: To a moment for my confidence or like just.

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Speaker 3: That was.

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Speaker 1: That was probably some time in Brooklyn when I when

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Speaker 1: had like twelve and like ten or something like that.

444
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Speaker 1: And then I had a game probably like a week

445
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Speaker 1: later against John Wall at the Wizard had like twenty.

446
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Speaker 1: It was like my first twin point game. I was

447
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Speaker 1: like okay, like because those were people you look up to.

448
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Speaker 1: You you know what I'm saying. So it wasn't just

449
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Speaker 1: like you know, the backups were playing or you went

450
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Speaker 1: in there and it wasn't a real game or something

451
00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 1: like you know real games and you know, so play

452
00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 1: well against them. They gave me confidences like Okay, you

453
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Speaker 1: can do it. And then in Brooklyn, I mean I

454
00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,320
Speaker 1: had to run. Had to be probably year four where

455
00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,600
Speaker 1: I was like hitting like game winners and stuff, and

456
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Speaker 1: I was like all right with everybody talking about it's

457
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Speaker 1: on now.

458
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was probably it yere four.

459
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Speaker 6: Like when we get when you first get to the league,

460
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,879
Speaker 6: obviously it's a it's a it's a difference, like you

461
00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:29,159
Speaker 6: start seeing like damn, I was nice in college, but

462
00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,360
Speaker 6: these dudes are crazy, and so you kind of embraced

463
00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,800
Speaker 6: that moment. But like when they start picking on you,

464
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Speaker 6: and they do the rookie hayes and they all the

465
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:41,080
Speaker 6: little ship that come with being a rookie. Did you

466
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Speaker 6: have a rookie hayes? And did you your car popcorn?

467
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Speaker 6: Did you get you know, I had to bring donuts

468
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Speaker 6: all that stuff.

469
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had donuts.

470
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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Uh the newspaper and then.

472
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Speaker 2: They like that's the old as team, that's the newspapers.

473
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Speaker 1: They like, uh like, try to tie it to a chair,

474
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Speaker 1: throw me in the ice up goddamn.

475
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Speaker 3: Because I was like I had that level of like, look,

476
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Speaker 3: I respect.

477
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Speaker 1: All y'all, but I'm not hearing it if you can't

478
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Speaker 1: guard me. Bro, Like stop talking to me crazy, Like

479
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Speaker 1: I don't want to hear that. So there was a

480
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Speaker 1: level of that, like they say something like.

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Speaker 4: Bro, who got you want to get newspapers?

482
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Speaker 1: The person who was born boy papers and uh a

483
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Speaker 1: notebook with a pen because he wanted to like occasionally

484
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Speaker 1: write raps.

485
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Speaker 5: And it was like, bro, man, my boy had bars.

486
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Speaker 5: We celebrate on here. I don't even remember celebrate.

487
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Speaker 3: One like old school black and white composition joints. Bro

488
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Speaker 3: like not wrapping for real? Why of bars? The leak celebrate.

489
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Speaker 6: Ass come from the lineage to like Joe Smith. That's

490
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Speaker 6: my best was Joe Smith. Eric Damn period time. I

491
00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:05,439
Speaker 6: had some old head, so they my car because I

492
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Speaker 6: wasn't going for nothing.

493
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Speaker 3: Bro, That's what I'm saying. I'm in here. I'm not

494
00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 3: going like I bring the donuts, but like Bro relax.

495
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Speaker 6: I brung donuts and they never ate them. And I

496
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Speaker 6: kept on my locker and I just kept puting them.

497
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Speaker 6: The box up there, and finally Josh Smith had a

498
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Speaker 6: drunk night and the donuts were green.

499
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Speaker 3: He opened them up. He said, Man, what the fu

500
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Speaker 3: car was popped? My car was popped cords so Karan

501
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Speaker 3: never spit that for you, Bro, Bro crazy, that's crazy. Wow.

502
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Speaker 8: I see trying to get deals and keep it clean

503
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Speaker 8: here and when I it's gonna be, you gotta pick

504
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Speaker 8: a side.

505
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Speaker 4: What like.

506
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Speaker 3: Up for it? It's crazy, Bro.

507
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Speaker 8: Split up and Spitial games talking ship. That ain't nothing

508
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Speaker 8: bo Hello interview.

509
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Speaker 2: That's the best thing about the show as fun it is,

510
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 2: it's very challeish, Man. We gotta talk about it, man,

511
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:13,199
Speaker 2: That's what I realized. I was like, Spencer is a

512
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 2: real hustler because you're trying to get that deal in Bigcoin.

513
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,840
Speaker 2: I said, my boy is a real finessor please talk

514
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Speaker 2: about how you got to that situation, man, all.

515
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Speaker 3: Right, son.

516
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Speaker 1: The funny part about that is, like it may headline

517
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Speaker 1: because of the bitcoin aspect, because like the league threatened

518
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Speaker 1: to kick me out. That's crazych was a whole other thing.

519
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 1: But really it was a play on blockchain technology. So

520
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:43,440
Speaker 1: you the thirty second. Blockchain technology is about like micro transactions,

521
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Speaker 1: being able to send stuff peer to peer, like adding

522
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Speaker 1: liquidity to whatever system it is. So I was trying

523
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Speaker 1: to decentralize sports contracts, all this betting that we see

524
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Speaker 1: and everything that's going on now, trying to do that

525
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Speaker 1: ship back in what was it twenty seventeen or something

526
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Speaker 1: like that. So it was a play opening up like

527
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Speaker 1: the sports contract world, and they were like Champ, m hm,

528
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Speaker 1: it's through, We're gonna kick.

529
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Speaker 3: You out the league.

530
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Speaker 1: So that I had to like redo it in a

531
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Speaker 1: bunch of different ways to like be complying with the

532
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Speaker 1: NBA because you know, I love my job, Thank you guys,

533
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 1: shout out in the NBA, shout out to the NBA

534
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,120
Speaker 1: facts whatnot. But uh yeah, I mean that that's really

535
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Speaker 1: what it was about. And so it became far more

536
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Speaker 1: bitcoin centric because.

537
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Speaker 3: That's kind of what they were going to.

538
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Speaker 1: Allow versus the overall business of what I was trying

539
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Speaker 1: to do, because I mean, as you see with gambling

540
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: and the parlays and everything going on with fan doing

541
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Speaker 1: draftings and all that, right now, I wanted to, you know,

542
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Speaker 1: slide my little business idea in there. They get bought out,

543
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: they make ten band dolls, I make one, and I'm like, man,

544
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 1: it's all good.

545
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Speaker 3: I'm partnering with the league. And they were like, that

546
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Speaker 3: was what they were saying, right, No, they wasn't.

547
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Speaker 1: When he said when he when I read about it,

548
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Speaker 1: I said, he a mad genius. I said, I was

549
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Speaker 1: on his way out.

550
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Speaker 3: I where I said, he is a mad genius.

551
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Speaker 2: I said he bareter lead him alone because he thinking,

552
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Speaker 2: he thinking ten steps ahead.

553
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Speaker 3: And they don't. I bet he knows. Don't worry about it,

554
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Speaker 3: you know. Yeah, he was a mad genius. He was

555
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Speaker 3: about to be junior Bridgeman.

556
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I said he was a mad genius. They would

557
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Speaker 2: have They wasn't allowing him to be a mad genius.

558
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Speaker 2: Like it's the n B A I still love the NBA.

559
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Speaker 3: Listen.

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Speaker 6: I can't wait to go to J Cole's party and uh,

561
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Speaker 6: what's it called Dreamville, I'll be there shout out to

562
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Speaker 6: the NBA.

563
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Speaker 3: I was like, he's NBA. I'm going to the NBA.

564
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Speaker 5: I just wanted to espersonally bought the Lord gonna bless

565
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Speaker 5: you one day.

566
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Speaker 6: But I think like, because that's the moment when I

567
00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,840
Speaker 6: was like, Yo, he's different. Because me, I was just like,

568
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Speaker 6: I've know that I got the bread. For him to

569
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 6: think like that, I was like, he's different. He probably

570
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,480
Speaker 6: gonna do something. So even that, and for you making

571
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Speaker 6: your own shoe, I remember seeing you on the court,

572
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 6: and I'm like, this nigga really got his own shoes,

573
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,119
Speaker 6: Like he really got his own shoes. And now to

574
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 6: see that, like to do that. And then I see

575
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 6: guys like Jaylen Brown, you know sexy.

576
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Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's that's something that I guess in the

577
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,399
Speaker 1: history books, I probably won't get much credit for it,

578
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: but like now it's sexy.

579
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Speaker 3: I'm happy Jameson Brown is doing.

580
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Speaker 6: Now I'm gonna give you your You're not gonna pass him, no,

581
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Speaker 6: I mean yeah, he said, he said sexy.

582
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Speaker 3: You ain't getting no pass on this.

583
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: I was like, because they kind of looked like Kobe's

584
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: a little bit and I was like, I was like,

585
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 2: he like Kobe, like when I first see it, but

586
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: you probably remember I for some of them.

587
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:03,680
Speaker 3: I said, Yo, can't get some of them? Yeah?

588
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 2: Actually I did. I was like, you can't get some

589
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,480
Speaker 2: of his shoes Brooklyn ball boys. I was like, YO,

590
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: tell a dude, I want some shoes. They was like, yeah,

591
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: he don't give them out.

592
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 3: I was like, damn.

593
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 1: I was like, he's stingy with I don't know why.

594
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 1: They said not, he don't be giving them out. I

595
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: was like, for real, I was like, this ship's weak bought.

596
00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: Yah, I bought the laws of I never got them.

597
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 2: My boy, I'm still away from my triple B. I

598
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:38,760
Speaker 2: spent five. But then I seen you. I'm like, bro,

599
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 2: he really you?

600
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Speaker 6: And again yeah, got his own shoes and I'm like

601
00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 6: that's hard. I'm like, I want some of his shoes.

602
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 6: They like, yeah, don't give them out.

603
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 4: What made you do that?

604
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 3: Though?

605
00:27:50,359 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: So basically again like kind of entrepreneur mindset, like I'm

606
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,879
Speaker 1: again second round, pick all that stuff, Like you want

607
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: to give me like a fifty merch deal.

608
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 3: I was just like, but no, not few thousand dollars,

609
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 3: just a little merch.

610
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 1: If you know anything about that your family fly through

611
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 1: that thing before you can get it.

612
00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I might as well not even have it.

613
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: It's in there, Like, yeah, what it'd be like, you

614
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:14,480
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, had my own shoes blah blah,

615
00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: and like I used to draw shoes kids, So it

616
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: was like, you know, crime Butther doing his wraps, I'm

617
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: drawing shoes, just killing time, and I was like, let.

618
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 3: Me try it.

619
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 1: And so it's both harder and not as hard as

620
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,800
Speaker 1: you think if you have like a template to build

621
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: off of, which was a Kobe and so coach is

622
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: my favorite player. I wore Kobe's all the time, and

623
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: so that's kind of how my shoe was constructed. And

624
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 1: then it turned to a business basically, which then three

625
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,440
Speaker 1: sixty one, which is basically almost I mean you got

626
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: probably like three major brands in China's leaning into the

627
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: three sixty one, and so then they brought me out.

628
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: My signature went up under them, and so you know,

629
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: now I've had a signature with them for three years

630
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,959
Speaker 1: and going forward with that. So it ended up working

631
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: because you know that path took me to them. Not

632
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: only did I make a little bit of money doing

633
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: my own shoe, but then you know, when you're shown

634
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: you can do it, they buy you out and all

635
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,640
Speaker 1: other stuff, become partners everything, they pay you for all that.

636
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: So it turned to a whole different type of deal

637
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:20,719
Speaker 1: then obviously, like you know, you know how it is

638
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: with like Nike, and I'm like, ain't nobody getting up

639
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:26,440
Speaker 1: real money off of Nike unless you are that that

640
00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:30,880
Speaker 1: one two three, Yeah, you gotta be Brian, you know, KD, Kyrie,

641
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: those guys other than that, like you're not making no real.

642
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 3: Money off them.

643
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: But three sixty one they got I got some players

644
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 2: on that. Oh yeah, definitely, because we just got Yokis.

645
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, was like when Yo came over. Yeah, it's little

646
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 6: I think Aaron first, Yeah.

647
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 1: Then it was me. Then now they got Yokas. It's

648
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: probably gonna it's gonna be a thing.

649
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 4: Is it just on the course or off the course?

650
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 3: I mean say off the court too, But I'm not

651
00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: really off the court.

652
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: I really think the only I think the only baskets

653
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: shoot you can get away with off the court probably

654
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: James bro Like nobody's really wearing Kobe's or Bronze or anything.

655
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: Like, don't wear the club.

656
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: Let's be real, Like I know they say you can

657
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: and like you know, maybe bron did some promo for

658
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: that or hardened some promo for that, but like nobody

659
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: doing that. There's Jays, you got designers, Chucks fans. Like

660
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: in terms of American culture off the court, that's sixty

661
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: months off the court of y'all. Come just call me,

662
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Speaker 1: y'all know.

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Speaker 2: Yeahway, I realized shoes pulling on that right there?

664
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Speaker 1: That's so yeah, that's last year. Those are the twos

665
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Speaker 1: okay DVD too.

666
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 3: I'm wearing it. I think it drops in like I

667
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: think it's supposed to.

668
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: Can we get some thirties manes Man on the show.

669
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,120
Speaker 3: And I'm hoping on mar fact, I hope all the time.

670
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Speaker 3: Still there we go. I hoped, and I hoped. The

671
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Speaker 3: answers I hope in some hard nozs.

672
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 6: That's nons, right, some hard nons. Shout to the family.

673
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 6: Shouts to the family. I hooped in the deer and

674
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 6: fox shout to the family under arm.

675
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 9: Get all right, yeah, I got some ship you all right, cools,

676
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 9: it just give me a law to its crazy.

677
00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 3: Funny bro the left. That's hard though, that is to matter.

678
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 3: I want that colorway, look that apple green is fine

679
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,800
Speaker 3: all right, what's shop off camera? For sure?

680
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,160
Speaker 2: The next episode, I got you listen, man, here, You've

681
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: been around for a lot of different stuff. I got

682
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 2: to ask you most recently. We're gonna fast forward a

683
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: little bit. Where were you at when you found out

684
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 2: that Luca Dodgers was no longer your teammate?

685
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: That's so let me let me tell you, Like, I

686
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: don't think anybody would disagree with this going into the season,

687
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: you would have thought he was untouchable, right, So we

688
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: m b and and Edwards and Proac, Tatum and l

689
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: and you know those type guys.

690
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: It was.

691
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: It was just crazy because you know, we had an

692
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: early game against Cleveland the next day, so I went

693
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: to sleep early. You know how like on a normal

694
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 1: game that you might be up twelve to one whatever,

695
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna be up to eight or nine, so you're still

696
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,200
Speaker 1: getting your six, seven, eight hours whatever.

697
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 3: But we had to be up early. We were playing

698
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: at like two or something like that. So I probably

699
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 3: went to bedter like eleven or maybe a little bit

700
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Speaker 3: earlier than that.

701
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Speaker 1: So when I woke up, I knew it was a problem,

702
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: or not a problem, but I knew it was someone

703
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 1: on because I had like other NBA player miscalls like

704
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 1: like Zach Lavine d Lo, like people like something open

705
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,720
Speaker 1: on my phone, Like why I got like three miscalls

706
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:47,080
Speaker 1: from d Lo?

707
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: Why I got like a couple miss calls from Zach,

708
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,400
Speaker 3: Like hell going on?

709
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: Like I saw my agent, but like whatever he called for,

710
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 1: whatever you called for, and then I went to my

711
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,239
Speaker 1: messages and that's when you know what I'm saying, it's

712
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: set in.

713
00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean everybody was just shock.

714
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:04,240
Speaker 1: Bro, Like, I don't think there's any way to put it, Like,

715
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 1: you know, both A D my friends, so it's kind

716
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: of like, yeah, you know, it sucks that they're also

717
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 1: acting like a D ain't probably a top five power

718
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: for it all time, so like talking about the bag

719
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: of chips.

720
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 3: Or something, which is crazy.

721
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: But I just think anybody that said they could have

722
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was gonna happen or predicted it or

723
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: that that's a lot like everybody was.

724
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 3: Everybody was shocked.

725
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's one of the moments that everybody remembers where

726
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: they were when that should happened.

727
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 3: That was like a monumental NBA moment.

728
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 6: That's going down to NBA here is one of the

729
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 6: most shocked in moments in NBA history for sure. It's

730
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 6: it's not like I know, everybody got hurt this year.

731
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 6: I mean, y'all everybody. Yeah, it's crazy. Were almost forfeit

732
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 6: the game or something like that. That's what the report said.

733
00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 6: I don't know the rules, but that's what they said. Yeah,

734
00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 6: we're almost forfeited.

735
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: It's crazy. Everybody got hurt.

736
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 6: But when you look back at that trade, it's not

737
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 6: as Luca is great man, he's amazing, but it's not

738
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Speaker 6: as bad as That's what.

739
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Speaker 1: I said, like ad a top five powerful, top seventy

740
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: five for sure, what I'm saying, top seventy five. And

741
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,239
Speaker 1: if you look at what he was able to do

742
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:16,080
Speaker 1: in conjunction with like Gaff and stuff in the Rocket skin.

743
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: One game they played, they played the first half. I

744
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: think the Rockets scored thirty eight points. It was in

745
00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: the rock time, what second in the West something like that.

746
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: They hooping, they're doing well, like and that trio of PJ. A.

747
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:36,160
Speaker 1: D And Gaff it was just nowhere to go. So

748
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,439
Speaker 1: you know, that was that was exciting to see.

749
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 6: I got I understood what was going on. I mean,

750
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 6: it still was a shocking trailer. I understood it, but

751
00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 6: it wasn't like, like, damn, they ain't getting nothing back.

752
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that was the thing.

753
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: Like and like I said, they both my friends and

754
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 1: l to me is probably the best offensive player in

755
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 1: the NBA right now, you know what I'm saying. And

756
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: but Ad might be the best two way play probably him,

757
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: honest right, Like, So it's not like sir, you know,

758
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a tough position to be in. Like

759
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: I said, the only thing that that sucks is that

760
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: they acting like a boom. That's that's the crazy part.

761
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: Like you can feel like you feel about the trade,

762
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 1: win lose, better for now, better for future, whatever it

763
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: may be.

764
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 3: But like, we gotta stop backing like a d ain't

765
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 3: a d we got, we gotta that's just that we got.

766
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 3: We gotta stop that.

767
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 6: Well, we're talking about good guards now. Now, now we're

768
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:38,959
Speaker 6: talking about language. Yeah, you said Luca the best offensive guard.

769
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 6: Yeah you think Luca bag is deeper than say or Edwards.

770
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 2: You guarded you guard all these Yeah, and you a

771
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 2: bigger guard, and you one of the best isolation guards

772
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: in the league.

773
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,960
Speaker 3: Yes, And I know that, I know that, I know.

774
00:35:55,239 --> 00:35:57,080
Speaker 1: Listen, listen, can I tell you this all the time.

775
00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: I think this year right now like top fifteen, but

776
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,520
Speaker 1: every yeah, I've been.

777
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: Like top ten. Yeah, I know I've been like I

778
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 3: don't I know, I know every years were like and

779
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 3: I'll be catching.

780
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: Hell and heat on like social media and ship because

781
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: they'll look at like the rankings and they'll be like

782
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 1: k D Jimmy Spence and.

783
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: Then like the other guys will be like Tatum like

784
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,160
Speaker 3: how the hell he in there? Why he in there?

785
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:26,000
Speaker 3: Like that between the hesitation, He's going, I know it,

786
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: I'm there in I know, I know it.

787
00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: But now I would say back between those three, uh

788
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: you guard all three? Who the toughest cover? Toughest cover

789
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:44,320
Speaker 1: for me?

790
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 3: No? No, So here's the deal. I think I think

791
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:52,879
Speaker 3: styles make fights back.

792
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: Like, for example, somebody I hate Garden that won't be

793
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: in that list, Darius Garland.

794
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 3: He just so much is jittery ship that I'm like, bro,

795
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: relax the end of my career. Like yeah, like I'm like, bro,

796
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 3: like stop stop moving.

797
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:13,240
Speaker 1: So Shae likes to get to that like big shoulder

798
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 1: bump to the MIDI, which for me is a little

799
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 1: bit easier than like like I said, there's gone and

800
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 1: something like that because I can kind of pause if

801
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: necessarily absorb that contact and like still kind of play them.

802
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 1: I like the guy, but he got a crazy whistle though,

803
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:36,720
Speaker 1: so like you're fucking around foul out to Superstars Superstar ever.

804
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: Got post game? But right now with the way he's

805
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,840
Speaker 3: shooting the three and it's explosive as he is, Like,

806
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 3: that's tough cover.

807
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 4: So you're going to sleep early for that.

808
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, they all nice, though it's tough, like to be honest,

809
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:56,239
Speaker 1: like Shae's bag with pivots and stuff like that. In

810
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,319
Speaker 1: terms of what we think of his guards, it's probably

811
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper than theirs, and it's got the exposiveness.

812
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: And once you add the post game, it changes that

813
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,839
Speaker 1: conversation with L because you know, you put a small

814
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: guy on L, like he's really walking you to the

815
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:11,759
Speaker 1: block Christmas, Like she's.

816
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 3: Bumped fade off the block.

817
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: It's that's more like ice so two man game, like

818
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: you can really bury you, like you'll just walk you.

819
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:20,920
Speaker 3: Down, walk you down and walk you down.

820
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 6: Push them, you know what I'm saying, Like they all

821
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 6: to covers, they all to me are elite guards and

822
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 6: obviously they're all in the MVP conversation every year whatever

823
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 6: they've been in these last couple of years. But I

824
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 6: know you and like seeing you compete against them, and

825
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:39,879
Speaker 6: you were a bigger guard to me six five sixty six.

826
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 3: I'm six to one. I used to be like this

827
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:47,359
Speaker 3: mo fucker tall at ship. You are like taller ship.

828
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 6: So I remember I was on the Pacers and you

829
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 6: were playing for Brooklyn and the point guard was Isaiah

830
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 6: Whitehead started broh, yes, I swear, and people that know me,

831
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:01,480
Speaker 6: I talk ship all day. So I'm talking ship to Kenny.

832
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,359
Speaker 6: I'm like, you gotta get this motherfucker out of here.

833
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 6: He can't play.

834
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: I'm like, you can't play, and Kenny like shut and

835
00:39:09,840 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 3: then you supped. Then and Kenny, I'm yeah, shooting a

836
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 3: free throw. I walked this. I'm like, yo, he can't play.

837
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 3: He was like this motherfucker can and I'm like, I'm

838
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 3: like what, he ain't even playing. He was like he's

839
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,480
Speaker 3: gonna be starting from here on out. I'll tell you that.

840
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 6: Watch I'm telling you six six and me and him

841
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:30,879
Speaker 6: are having a conversation in the middle of the game,

842
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 6: and then I've seen it fast forward.

843
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, this mother fuck about to get paid.

844
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: Kenny seen something.

845
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, you came off the bench and it was just

846
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,640
Speaker 6: brook Low pez shooting threes and all this ship and

847
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 6: you came and you started starting.

848
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 3: You had your run.

849
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,040
Speaker 6: But Kenny called that ship out. I remember that game

850
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 6: Isaiah Whitehall was starting. You came in and he called

851
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,359
Speaker 6: that ship you a bucket. I appreciate you can't man

852
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 6: like Kenny real for sure, man the blueprints real with him.

853
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,799
Speaker 6: Look at this we talk about how Drum right now,

854
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:01,840
Speaker 6: like his impact on.

855
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 3: Guards has proven for even like d Low he got

856
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 3: with Kenny, it was just for sure.

857
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: I think like the other thing too, is like when

858
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: when Kenny was younger, he used to hoop with you,

859
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: usually be in a like so you felt like he

860
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: had your back in the sense like he's gonna do

861
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 1: the work out with you type of vibe. Like sometimes

862
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: it was crazy and he got hurt doing it towards

863
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: Quad one time doing that ship but damn oh yeah,

864
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,959
Speaker 1: I was to isolate, uh, Jared Allen. We was all kids,

865
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: basically Brooklyn towards.

866
00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:33,759
Speaker 3: Trying to really like Kobe clear out.

867
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 1: Like Kenny, I used to play, but he used to

868
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: play with no shoes from no He used to play

869
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: barefoot excuse me, I America. He played overseas long time.

870
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 6: He went to Richmond, but he used to play barefoot,

871
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 6: Like I come in, he will be barefoot where that

872
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 6: came from, and then you do your drills. He guards

873
00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 6: you the whole Yeah. Yeah, but he used to play

874
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 6: barefoot three on three with us.

875
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: He got the limit pepper step, but out there hoot a.

876
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 3: Real grips a lie. I was right, I was right here.

877
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,719
Speaker 3: I was just I was just making it in the league.

878
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 3: I was starting. I got with Kenny. They all start saying,

879
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 3: Kenny Levet Star cruising.

880
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,840
Speaker 4: In the NBA one on one on a Hordwood floor,

881
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 4: barefoot from.

882
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 3: My right handed guy. Y'all ever meet Kenny, Ask me

883
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 3: he used to play with those shoes. I know that

884
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 3: I didn't, but yeah, even in the fire solition.

885
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: I PEO don't understand how much like situation coaches believe

886
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: all that stuff like it matters because there's only so

887
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 1: many people that can go to the front office and

888
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:43,840
Speaker 1: be like, oh nah, this is what we're gonna do.

889
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:45,720
Speaker 3: I don't care what the coach says, like blah blah.

890
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 1: If you're under that superstar teer bro and the coach

891
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: says like, Nah, we're gonna play this way, then that's

892
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: the way you playing well. That's to your strength, whether

893
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 1: it's not. You might be out there looking ass even

894
00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 1: though you got a specific strength. But if you tell

895
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: you to do what you gotta try to do it.

896
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 6: So that's why I'm happy for what they're doing in Cleveland.

897
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:07,399
Speaker 6: You haveing a hell of a year and you see

898
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 6: all them guys thriving, even the guys come off the

899
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:10,440
Speaker 6: bench have moments.

900
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 2: I'm a big advocate for Kenny Atkinson. That's one of

901
00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: my favorite coaches I ever played for you coming up

902
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 2: under Kenny.

903
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 5: Could you see yourself coaching one day or taking one

904
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,760
Speaker 5: of them type of roles in the league, hoping against

905
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 5: the young niggas barefoot.

906
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: I mean for Suf, not that for me.

907
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 1: I mean I can see if like because Dad's got

908
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: a real good, like family kind of atmosphere. I think,

909
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: you know, Cuban really tried to or mc sorry, he

910
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: tried to establish that. I think it's carrying over obviously

911
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:43,840
Speaker 1: with a lot of former players like Tyson Chandler, Sei.

912
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 3: Mary and like still employed by Finley.

913
00:42:46,360 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Mike Finley, Like if it was a situation where

914
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:52,040
Speaker 1: I was like almost a practice player, but getting like

915
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: a just a small assistant coach out nothing crazy, but

916
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,720
Speaker 1: like practice player. I come in on your home games,

917
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 1: but I don't got to travel like all that, Like

918
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: I could do that. But pashion of really being like

919
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,959
Speaker 1: a head coach and all that so serious and sham

920
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 1: got over there with you. Yeah, but Shaman real coach though,

921
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: like he travels you doing all this stuff like in

922
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to come in Tyson Chandler right now,

923
00:43:16,120 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: he's at every home game, all.

924
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,320
Speaker 3: The home practice.

925
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: He don't travel like I could do that, like practice

926
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: with the players, stay in shape, be a o g

927
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: give wisdom. But then like y'all leave, and yeah, I'm

928
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: not going any what coming game you.

929
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: Are right now?

930
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 2: I feel put up to that crazy, Yeah, I feel.

931
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: But I was one thing I'll say about the mask

932
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: to be here, could have test. Hey, they take care

933
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: of their people. Boy, listen, we went last year.

934
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna bring that up. Man, the hospitality, bro,

935
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 1: we can't. That food for the first family was piff.

936
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: Yeah it was not what the papers.

937
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,160
Speaker 5: Now y'all eat, y'all eat good. You know what I'm

938
00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 5: saying are being is he just he chose to get

939
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 5: a White Goo hot dog. Yeah, he traveled, he high

940
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 5: dog contests all that type of ship.

941
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: A glizzy monster. He's a glisy monster. They said they

942
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 3: had they had lobster steak, shrimp.

943
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 4: He went to the White Goo station and got a

944
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 4: he got it glizzy.

945
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 2: Mike Fricky, Mike Mahan got a glizzy add lobster state

946
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 2: and shrimp.

947
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 3: You know, it's different when you eat with white people.

948
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 3: They said, you try to glizer run there. Who wow,

949
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:49,320
Speaker 3: they said, wow, is crazy us on the way in.

950
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 2: Shout to the bass first class organization for sure, for sure,

951
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 2: for sure. All been listen obviously it's been an upper

952
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,880
Speaker 2: down year for y'all. But I want to ask you.

953
00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 2: I know you are tapping into the social media's but

954
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 2: your laker tacher, I don't want to talk about too

955
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 2: much about it, but how was that like playing for

956
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: that organization and then like being on the internet at

957
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 2: the same time.

958
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: Oh uh, I mean, just because I'm from LA, you

959
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: kind of understand going there what it's going to be.

960
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: So I didn't go in there expecting like for it

961
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: to be something different, like okay, because the.

962
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 3: Way I got there obviously with the whole like.

963
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: Brooklyn thing and all the shit they went on that way,

964
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:37,279
Speaker 1: and then picking a team in the bio market. Uh,

965
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: you know for Das, they had Dason Las kind of

966
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: had a similar year, Like nobody knew that was gonna

967
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: take off, like the PJ and Gaff additions like like

968
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: change the whole trajectory and the way they jail and

969
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,359
Speaker 1: all that stuff. So you know, credit to them making

970
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:54,040
Speaker 1: the finals with the Lakers, Like I knew, Okay, Delos

971
00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: there ar's there, uh bron ad. So it's not like

972
00:45:57,920 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna come there in average twenty like you know

973
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 1: that one in there. And for the fan base, like

974
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: you know, it's when or you ask, there's there's no

975
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 1: in between. Like certain fan base are like, oh you

976
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 1: tried hard. You know what I'm saying. They're like whenter

977
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 1: you suck. So when I went there knowing that, so

978
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't as bad as like for me for some people,

979
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: I was mad at you man, We're not going to Dallas.

980
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,680
Speaker 6: I said, gotta go to Dallas because you just had

981
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 6: a phenomenal Yeah, you just showed. I'm like, he know them, Yeah,

982
00:46:27,160 --> 00:46:30,719
Speaker 6: he just killed there. He gotta go back there and

983
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 6: when you went to l A. I said, you gotta

984
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 6: go to Dallas. You said it on here too, I said,

985
00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 6: he supposed to go to Dallas.

986
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:41,440
Speaker 1: NA hindsight, Yeah, I mean obviously with the finals run

987
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: and and the back here this year and all that stuff,

988
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: like for sure would have been great.

989
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: And it's hard to turn down l A B. Yeah,

990
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,280
Speaker 3: you know you from there and like all that stuff.

991
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,239
Speaker 1: Like it's and like I said, at the time, both

992
00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 1: teams were kind of in like the middle, lower end,

993
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 1: lower end of the playoff race of the Western Conference,

994
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 1: like nobody knew.

995
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:06,160
Speaker 3: I think they went like.

996
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 1: Eighteen and two at one point, like nobody they when

997
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: the when the switch clicked or how do you want

998
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: to say it, like that took off, you know what

999
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:17,959
Speaker 1: I'm saying.

1000
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 3: So I don't regret it. But obviously, like you know,

1001
00:47:22,600 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 3: who wouldn't want to go to the finals. That's after

1002
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 3: already being at the conference finals. So you know, it

1003
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 3: is what it is.

1004
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 2: It's definitely I gotta ask, man, some of the practice

1005
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: you've probably seen. You got two of the most skilled

1006
00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,000
Speaker 2: basketball players ever between Luke and Kyrie. What's it like

1007
00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: just to see them up close? Every Obviously we know

1008
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 2: you cold, but just to see them like just hoop

1009
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: on the consistent basis. What's this is the like motivating

1010
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 2: does everybody buy inteck? You see like everybody teams is like,

1011
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 2: I really fuck with basketball, bro, you don't see that?

1012
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: I think?

1013
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 1: Uh, I think the difference with like Kyrie and any

1014
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:57,319
Speaker 1: other like player that I've been around, Like the again

1015
00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:59,600
Speaker 1: made pause if needed, but like the way he moves

1016
00:47:59,719 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: is like it's like artistic in a sense, you know

1017
00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,240
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So it's just it's a very different

1018
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: like eye test, right, Like some people are explosive, some

1019
00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:13,439
Speaker 1: people are you know this or that dominant can shoot

1020
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: it well whatever, Like been around a lot of greats,

1021
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: like even the Kd's Lucas bron even like.

1022
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 3: It's just the way he does it is more appealing

1023
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 3: to look at, if that makes sense. Yeah, Lucas is dominant.

1024
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: Like you know, he can run off ten threes, he

1025
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,000
Speaker 1: can post you up, he can get to the Dirk

1026
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: fade in the MIDI he got everything, and then his

1027
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: passing is sensational two. So you know, I mean there's

1028
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 1: nothing you can't say about about ill, right, but I

1029
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:46,320
Speaker 1: just think like the eye test from just like a

1030
00:48:47,360 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 1: like how it looks. Probably him and Paul George probably

1031
00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: got the most appealing games to look at.

1032
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:57,399
Speaker 3: No, Paul George.

1033
00:48:57,920 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 2: You talk about audiosters, they always say who I want

1034
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:01,359
Speaker 2: to play like Paul George.

1035
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 6: When I played, Like when I used to watch him

1036
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,840
Speaker 6: in practice when we played in Indiana, I used to

1037
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:05,279
Speaker 6: just be like.

1038
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:10,799
Speaker 3: He cold. Yeah, you said, I like Cold Bro. That's

1039
00:49:11,120 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 3: crossover snash back bro.

1040
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 6: Only game I seen that was better than him, And

1041
00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:19,680
Speaker 6: practice was there, like when you seen d Rose, it

1042
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 6: was just like, man, what the hell is something right?

1043
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 6: How are you moving this fade? And Toya you Din

1044
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 6: did it? People saying you're sad you didn't fell and

1045
00:49:30,160 --> 00:49:34,280
Speaker 6: you still just doing ship. That's unbelievable. But I couldn't

1046
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 6: imagine Kyrie, you know, guard him. At one point in

1047
00:49:37,440 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 6: my career, I guarded Kyrie more than.

1048
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 3: Anybody in NBA. Really, that's a fact, fact, which is crazy.

1049
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 3: And I have I guarded more than anybody else.

1050
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 6: So I've experienced them as an islands yea, And like

1051
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 6: his shot making ability was always the thing for me.

1052
00:49:51,640 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 6: Like I remember one game we played Indiana, I guarded.

1053
00:49:54,239 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 6: I literally guarded for eighteen seconds. I remember watching the

1054
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 6: clip when I came back and I was guarding my

1055
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,839
Speaker 6: ass off. And to know, Kyrie, he can go left

1056
00:50:01,840 --> 00:50:03,759
Speaker 6: and do all that shit, but he prefers to go

1057
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 6: right right, that's his preferred hand. He can go left,

1058
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 6: we know that. But I was forcing him left and

1059
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 6: I was on this ship and somebody got back to

1060
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,839
Speaker 6: that right anyway, and he had a fallout fade away.

1061
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 3: Nobody helped me, mind you.

1062
00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 6: He went from the left side of the court all

1063
00:50:18,080 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 6: the way to the right side of course, shot of

1064
00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,320
Speaker 6: fade away.

1065
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 3: And hit it. I never got any help.

1066
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,800
Speaker 2: After the game, I watched the clip and I was

1067
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,880
Speaker 2: just like, what the fuck am I supposed to do?

1068
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: And mind you, that game he had thirty seven points,

1069
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 2: but all his shots were just like in my face,

1070
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,279
Speaker 2: and I was like, I can't guard no better, so

1071
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 2: I might alas just stopped.

1072
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 3: I'm not lying, bro yo, what the are you doing

1073
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 3: on the stack? We on our shore. He just serve

1074
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 3: he gave me, he did.

1075
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,560
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna lie. I guard him the most like ship.

1076
00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 2: He was averaging twenty eight.

1077
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, so he had. He had a lot many

1078
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 3: times he get forwarded up.

1079
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 4: Okay, damn, hold on.

1080
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 3: That's when he first went to Brooklyn. I know that game. Yeah,

1081
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 3: I wouldn't clip. Yeah, we fail to try to made it.

1082
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:19,719
Speaker 3: I don't know what he got against me. I don't

1083
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 3: know why he was like that on me.

1084
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 4: Bro so thirst to be an into athlete.

1085
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 3: You know what we're gonna go through. I don't think

1086
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:39,480
Speaker 3: Kyrie today, I'm not. He's never had twenty time. Yeah,

1087
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:44,160
Speaker 3: I like him up play. That's a d NV put

1088
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:49,400
Speaker 3: that he had twenty every year. Every them putting the

1089
00:51:49,480 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: zero point on you was crazy. We had twenty four

1090
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 3: every day. I think you can't even guard me on

1091
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 3: the bitch. Yeah. I locked him up. That guy.

1092
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 6: I remember he's a rookie. After the down said you're

1093
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:03,919
Speaker 6: gonna be lo let me. I tell her, you're gonna

1094
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,439
Speaker 6: be a good player.

1095
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 3: Kid. You're like I did, He's gonna be We beat

1096
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,279
Speaker 3: the ship out.

1097
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 2: We probably beat him by thirty, so I'm like, you're

1098
00:52:13,239 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 2: gonna be He knew he was on real then, but

1099
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,640
Speaker 2: I called you Yeah, oh god, he did.

1100
00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:18,360
Speaker 3: We got a conversation.

1101
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 2: I said, he's gonna be the best. He's one of

1102
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 2: the hardest players I regard play. Yeah, but I said're

1103
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: gonna be good, kid, Keep working next thing. You know,

1104
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 2: he ain't scoring twenty You your memory is amazing, bro story.

1105
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 2: I don't know appreciate that what I do, Mike, I

1106
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 2: didn't play a lot. We're going them out only fourteen.

1107
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 2: I didn't play how many minutes? How many minutes?

1108
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 3: That's what I didn't get the fourth quarter?

1109
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 4: Let's half a game.

1110
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 3: What game was that he had to be with Lebron? Yeah?

1111
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was a toy many motherfucker playing forty four minutes?

1112
00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 2: That's the whole game, y'all say, boy, you did not

1113
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 2: slept at all? You playing for team niggas. I don't

1114
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,319
Speaker 2: know what game that was because I never played forty

1115
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 2: four He and a good night, he shopping more than me.

1116
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 3: Clearly, did I ever have a good game?

1117
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 6: I have a good game against Okay, okay, let's like talk, okay,

1118
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 6: cool in a game winner.

1119
00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 3: A matter of fact, I hit the game winner now

1120
00:53:25,560 --> 00:53:30,640
Speaker 3: on Trusty, Yeah it is okay cool. What's the actually

1121
00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 3: what's your high? Forty? I would say? Yeah?

1122
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 1: He who?

1123
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 3: Uh the spurs? John say and d White? Wow, pull

1124
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 3: it up? What the fuck? What year was that? Old on?

1125
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 3: Load up the drake? You gave us thirty six? Where

1126
00:53:46,360 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 3: was I at.

1127
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,760
Speaker 4: I am, so you gave forty de John say, yeah.

1128
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 6: That's that's a tough g. What do you on the

1129
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 6: Spurs because the white wi my guy? Yeah, Colorado okay,

1130
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 6: but getting what are you on the Spurs? It's crazy.

1131
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: That I just went to rock too.

1132
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:08,799
Speaker 2: Oh. I mean we weren't together, you know what I'm saying.

1133
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 2: But that's that crazy. Sure, the type of players are,

1134
00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 2: that's crazy. But I can believe he gave us thirty six.

1135
00:54:15,800 --> 00:54:16,759
Speaker 2: I remember a couple of games.

1136
00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,560
Speaker 6: You had really good games on us, and I just

1137
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:23,520
Speaker 6: used to laugh because I just remember Kenny, Oh Ship, Yeah,

1138
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,239
Speaker 6: I can't give a fuck.

1139
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 3: Was I playing? Oh it was dark? Was your first

1140
00:54:28,719 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 3: year nineteen? No? He was? I was? That was that

1141
00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:36,400
Speaker 3: before that zero overturn? Yeah? I was out there. I

1142
00:54:36,520 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 3: probably was like killing probably killing the ball go crazy.

1143
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, he had a game. Boy, that's a good game.

1144
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 6: That's yeah, Ship, Yeah, six eight and five up. Ship,

1145
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:53,399
Speaker 6: shout out to my boy.

1146
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 3: Matter of fact, brot the clips when YouTube that could

1147
00:54:58,080 --> 00:54:58,799
Speaker 3: get help for real?

1148
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:01,640
Speaker 4: Make sure I was just no, no, no, just do

1149
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:03,400
Speaker 4: a Kyrie compilation for.

1150
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 3: Feature and Spence sold on. Give me forty I got you. Hey, listen,

1151
00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 3: go ahead and kick off man. I appreciate that. I

1152
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 3: take it for.

1153
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: Thirty six spence forty Kyrie Nah's I never saw the

1154
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 2: defensive player. I never want to boys that we go

1155
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:33,680
Speaker 2: make clip up the other flacker Foles, I don't know.

1156
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 4: While I thought he was small though, I didn't know

1157
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:36,399
Speaker 4: he was six.

1158
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 2: Bro.

1159
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 3: This was hen he got on some fans guitar for real?

1160
00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:49,200
Speaker 3: This is really yeah, I'm six now listen.

1161
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 2: We started off this episode talking about how you saving

1162
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: my opposite. You know you're financially intelligent, but when you

1163
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:55,120
Speaker 2: first got the bag, you was real comfortable with what

1164
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 2: was a crazy purchase.

1165
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: Well wait till the end of my rookie year and

1166
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:03,279
Speaker 1: I got a tested Okay, so I was at the

1167
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:05,560
Speaker 1: very end basically going into my second year.

1168
00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 3: That was it other than that you keep it simm Yeah.

1169
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 3: I mean, bro, I didn't have no money. I had

1170
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,239
Speaker 3: no money for real. Were you living in l a

1171
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,600
Speaker 3: St Or Yeah, But like.

1172
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,439
Speaker 1: My first year, I went back to my parents' house

1173
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,920
Speaker 1: second year, and like actually I went back to my

1174
00:56:23,960 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: parents second year. In my third year, I think I

1175
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 1: had like one of the apartments in Beverly Hills, but

1176
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't like one of them crazy pouses.

1177
00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 3: It wasn't none of that. It was like real regular.

1178
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 3: I moved with my parents myfe year. You moved in

1179
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:40,520
Speaker 3: and moved out, well, moved in with oh, but you

1180
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 3: went back here though, right moved right on. It was

1181
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,800
Speaker 3: a different. Yeah, that's a different that's a different situation.

1182
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,960
Speaker 4: He's trying to have. He's still trying to live like

1183
00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 4: Michael or you can tell him, why.

1184
00:56:52,920 --> 00:57:01,200
Speaker 3: Did you took my house? Basically when I moved back, Oh,

1185
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 3: they read out their house.

1186
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, I was a guessing my home and they literally

1187
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 6: took up my bedroom and they like I came in

1188
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 6: there with my teeth.

1189
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 3: Everything was different. My bed was in the basement. I

1190
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 3: just I worked it out for the year. How was

1191
00:57:14,239 --> 00:57:15,879
Speaker 3: that living at home with your parents? Though?

1192
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 4: Bro in the league, did you have to come in

1193
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 4: the house before a certain time?

1194
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:23,080
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you at that time, because

1195
00:57:23,080 --> 00:57:25,160
Speaker 1: you remember, like what twenty one something like that, something

1196
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: like oh, they're like, hey, could you know check in?

1197
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1198
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 1: No, they were like that because my parents are like

1199
00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:34,800
Speaker 1: old school stacks, yeah that stuff.

1200
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:38,560
Speaker 3: So they were saying all that, and yeah, I would

1201
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: have went right back to Detroit. I remember.

1202
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:44,040
Speaker 6: I came and stayed in my house my rookie year,

1203
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 6: my mom and dad house. I came home for my

1204
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:49,040
Speaker 6: birthday weekend. I came home at four. My mom was

1205
00:57:49,120 --> 00:57:53,400
Speaker 6: like whoa, Like, we're not doing that, na.

1206
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 3: I said, I'm going back because I'm doing that. You

1207
00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 3: don't know my life living in Atlanta start tow. Yeah

1208
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 3: you had it broke. Yeah, I'm Detroit, Bro. I mean

1209
00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 3: Detroit because you're thinking Detroit Detroit. I was out in

1210
00:58:08,800 --> 00:58:09,439
Speaker 3: Auburn Hills.

1211
00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,920
Speaker 6: Who was different at the Auburn House? Yeah, that was

1212
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:13,960
Speaker 6: well what we used to be at Birmingham.

1213
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. It was just like nerdy man drive bro. Yeah, okay, respect,

1214
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 3: I just I.

1215
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 4: Don't know, just you be in the league and your

1216
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 4: daddy saying, hey, my nigga, you wild.

1217
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 3: Like they kept it cool though. I mean it was subtle.

1218
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,440
Speaker 3: It wasn't like nah, you can't do It was like,

1219
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 3: you know, like taping and you chill like let us know.

1220
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:34,360
Speaker 3: And I was just for his parents. Yeah.

1221
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 1: Plus, like I said, Bro, I was broke. I didn't

1222
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,320
Speaker 1: even get the first round like million. No, it was

1223
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 1: like five hundred thousand, bro. So like after taxis two

1224
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: fifty after you spend your monthly. You got maybe one

1225
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:51,560
Speaker 1: hundred grand, like fifty grand somebody whatever. It was like, Bro,

1226
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: you're not in a rush to be like, oh, I'm

1227
00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 1: gonna spend five six thousand on the apartment for a

1228
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 1: couple of months and that hunting turn into eighty.

1229
00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 3: But when you got that that bag from Brooklyn, everybody

1230
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 3: gets sunk. I mean I like watches. Yeah, turn to

1231
00:59:14,200 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 3: look for me, because that's what these niggers do. I got.

1232
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 3: I got a couple of things like I got, like

1233
00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 3: the the Panther and the Spider Man, like the aps.

1234
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 3: Look at him, look at him? He a watch. Guy.

1235
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 3: I ain't ever bought nothing.

1236
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 1: Oh really, I bought house. He did, That's all I didn't.

1237
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,280
Speaker 1: I didn't buy my my crib in l A to

1238
00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: to my second deal. That's when I got that one.

1239
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,560
Speaker 3: No, you did it smart. I housed up immediately. I

1240
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 3: was ready to be a m P. It was worth it.

1241
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 3: I was. I was already having going.

1242
00:59:47,040 --> 00:59:47,280
Speaker 2: I was.

1243
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 3: The house. I was to get the content, bro, before

1244
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 3: the facts. Fact. I was like, I was ready the

1245
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 3: party going crazy. Yeah, I was lit.

1246
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,800
Speaker 2: But that ain't about nothing. I still they brought none.

1247
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:03,880
Speaker 2: I still need to buy a watch.

1248
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 3: You gotta do that. Yeah, I'm free. I haven't bought

1249
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 3: a watch. I'm surprised by that.

1250
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta do something. You got coppy roll off

1251
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:19,040
Speaker 6: the straps, for sure. They do my wife's my wife's

1252
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 6: wedding ring. They might like me frost enough for sure. Listen, man,

1253
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 6: we know you got plenty of things to do.

1254
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 2: Man, we appreciate you, sliding man telling people that can

1255
01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: grab the kicksad Man to support baby.

1256
01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,720
Speaker 3: I think it's three sixty one thinks.

1257
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:37,120
Speaker 4: Wee U not Hong Kong.

1258
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: Listen, they're the best part has ever if I just

1259
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: don't know the exact website because it's like three different websites.

1260
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:47,640
Speaker 3: Watch that's what I'm saying.

1261
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 6: Got three different websites. Dot come and shout out the

1262
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 6: spence Man. We spent a great time, man, I ain't

1263
01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:55,200
Speaker 6: gonna lie now.

1264
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 3: We put them on it. We're gonna need our shoes.

1265
01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 5: Yeah I got because we're gonna treat you like the

1266
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 5: three Big Company bro lamar balling them.

1267
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: We're gonna treat you like them. Shoes goa come. We

1268
01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 3: definitely gonna shout it out triple. It's efficiently right there, bro.

1269
01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:17,320
Speaker 3: It's not even in my control. Well, talk about people, y'all.

1270
01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,600
Speaker 1: To niggas say talking about people, y'all, I'm talking about

1271
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: what okay, okay, yeah, like a.

1272
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 3: Mission in the club, y'all. Like for sure, man, thank you,

1273
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 3: don't appreciate.

1274
01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 2: We'll be out next time, like share scrap that good

1275
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:38,920
Speaker 2: stuff will be back.

1276
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:39,800
Speaker 3: Club five twenty

1277
01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 2: The volume