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Speaker 1: This is Kelly Henderson and you're listening to the Velvet

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Speaker 1: Edge podcast. This week, my guests are Ashley Iker and

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Speaker 1: Hunter Kelly, who are co host of the hit Nashville

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Speaker 1: podcast All our favorite People. I've also been friends with

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Speaker 1: this duo for years, which I do believe you'll be

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Speaker 1: able to hear in the tone of this podcast. We

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Speaker 1: bounced from topics of Ashley and her pageant days as

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Speaker 1: Miss Tennessee two, Hunter's deep relationship and fascination with Naomi

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Speaker 1: and Winona Jutt. We covered pop culture hot buttons such

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Speaker 1: as Aaron Carter's meltdown, and also addressed the moment when

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Speaker 1: Beyonce stopped using words publicly. They both told me their

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Speaker 1: best and worst interview experiences, and from people who have

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Speaker 1: been employed by everyone from Rolling Stone to ABC, they

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Speaker 1: had quite a few stories to tell. There was everything

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Speaker 1: from belly laughing to singing, and it goes without saying

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Speaker 1: that these are officially two of my favorite people in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: Here's our conversation. Can you sing me a little more

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Speaker 1: of that tim a Girl song straight from There's a

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Speaker 1: Salt Together, Never rep and once we just speaking all

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Speaker 1: the world. I wish I need to sign language, loving

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Speaker 1: any language. You know. What I've really just noticed is

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Speaker 1: that you guys harmonized so well together just then, and

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Speaker 1: you were so in sync. So it's very obvious to

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Speaker 1: meet you guys have known each other for a long time.

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Speaker 1: So how did y'all meet? I mean, it's been like,

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Speaker 1: we're not really sure fifteen years now. I think it

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Speaker 1: has longer. Actually when you were when you were working

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Speaker 1: with Winona, I would have been hovering around trying to

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Speaker 1: get into the organization. We actually, as you did well,

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Speaker 1: we had a restraining order. Oh so you've come really

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Speaker 1: far then from restraining order to do friendship. That was yeah,

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Speaker 1: because I was working for Winona and Management right out

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Speaker 1: of college, so that was my first job, and that's

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Speaker 1: probably where we met because you were in radio at

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Speaker 1: that point. I wasn't ready about were you there in

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Speaker 1: two thousand five or you've already lived. I was in

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Speaker 1: working for the Governor Tennessee, Philip Reticent, while I was

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Speaker 1: a spokesperson for the governor and other things. The other

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Speaker 1: things because I was when I was miss Tennessee. So

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Speaker 1: it feels weird to talk about it. From that, she

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Speaker 1: talked about being missed Tennessee more, But no, I think

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Speaker 1: you would have been so I would. As soon as

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Speaker 1: think we figured it out that my first interview with

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Speaker 1: one owner was at a blood drive, and I think

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Speaker 1: you were there co hosting the blood driver. That's what

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Speaker 1: we're going to I have that photo popped up the

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Speaker 1: other day of like you know, in Facebook memories, and

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Speaker 1: so it was me wine Onwa, her ex husband, and

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Speaker 1: our friend Rondel and I was literally I came here

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Speaker 1: if she was wearing the crown or if I was

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Speaker 1: blood drive while I was Missingnessey because I had to leave.

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Speaker 1: That's got to be the same event. Because how many

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Speaker 1: blood drives in Middle Tennessee? Does one owner Joe Tapira,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but that man's yeah, I mean I

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Speaker 1: And as you both kind of mentioned, you have some

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Speaker 1: actually like to be interviewed, Hunter, I really do like

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Speaker 1: I think, Well, mostly I just go to my therapist

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Speaker 1: for this kind of time, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So at least once every two weeks I'm interviewed for

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Speaker 1: but I always find to have a lot to say. You,

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Speaker 1: the time. Well, he's a blessing. We kind of touched

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Speaker 1: on the fact that you have a pageant background, Ashley,

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Speaker 1: So can you tell us more about that, like did

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Speaker 1: that help you with your interviewing skills? Which you say, well,

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Speaker 1: Miss Tennessee. I went to Miss America and then that

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Speaker 1: respect and character. Education. That was your platform. Now, that

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Speaker 1: And then at the end of that, that's when ABC

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Speaker 1: when you're competing against each other, right, and getting ready

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Speaker 1: So we volunteer even to this day getting helping get

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Speaker 1: And it is intense, like it's very it's not you know,

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Speaker 1: There was no need for that. She just read everybody.

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Speaker 1: way northeastern state. But well, yeah, but the most part,

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Speaker 1: all the girls are pretty great. But what was your question?

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Speaker 1: I just wanted some tea on pageants like Spell the Juice. Now,

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Speaker 1: one of the things that I did do that we

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Speaker 1: called it pooping tea. Yeah, you like would drink this

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had that? But I know what you're

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Speaker 1: talking about that. I got mine in Jackson, Tennessee. From

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Speaker 1: a sketchy listic in quotes, they're some of the crazier things,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I do not advise or promote any of

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Speaker 1: you don't like it, they're okay with it, you know.

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00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 1: And so I like to tag off what you were saying, like,

429
00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,040
Speaker 1: I love seeing that in people. But now you know

430
00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:01,560
Speaker 1: that I'm in that bracket of like mid thirties to

431
00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 1: late thirties, You're like, I see where it's because we've

432
00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:06,800
Speaker 1: lived a lot of life that we're kind of coming

433
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,879
Speaker 1: back to, like, Okay, I'm comfortable with saying something and

434
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:12,760
Speaker 1: I said five years ago because I've been so scared whatever.

435
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: You think. Often say that when an artist is like

436
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 1: a superstar level, like for the first five years, it's

437
00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: really to do an interview with him is not that

438
00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:25,160
Speaker 1: interesting or engaging because the like it's harder to get

439
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:29,200
Speaker 1: anything off the cuff. Their guard is up. Um, it's

440
00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 1: only like when they're new and then like afterwards, when

441
00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: they like a just and are able to like, you know,

442
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,679
Speaker 1: do it that you get interesting stuff. But a lot

443
00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,919
Speaker 1: of times, like interviewing the people who are like at

444
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:43,360
Speaker 1: the upper echelon, you know, it's kind of like, you're

445
00:22:43,359 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 1: probably not going to tell me much because I'm not

446
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:47,720
Speaker 1: people magazine, right, And that's what you're saying when you

447
00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: can tell their people have told them what to say, right,

448
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,560
Speaker 1: or that they've had I mean I saw that a

449
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 1: lot in the pageant world, and it's been interesting to

450
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,920
Speaker 1: see it in you know, the music world, just when

451
00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:00,160
Speaker 1: people feel and a lot of that boils down too.

452
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: You're not comfortable in your own skin and you're just

453
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,159
Speaker 1: trying to or you have someone that's so controlling, like

454
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 1: you're just feel like you're doing a dance and so

455
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: but that doesn't work, It doesn't connect with people, because

456
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: authenticity is that connects people. That's why Dolly is so

457
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:15,920
Speaker 1: great though, for real, because she can throw in those

458
00:23:15,960 --> 00:23:19,520
Speaker 1: one liners and makes you also think that you're getting

459
00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 1: to see this authentic s out of her and she

460
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: just owns who she is so much. You know, but

461
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 1: like you said, she's actually very strategic when there are

462
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 1: other artists to who I love their music so much,

463
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 1: but I don't necessarily think that all our favorite people

464
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 1: is the right format for them, because I think a

465
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: big part of their appeal is that they are mysterious,

466
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: or that they don't say much, or maybe they're not

467
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:46,880
Speaker 1: really good at talking. Yeah, like some truth interview. Well,

468
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 1: I actually always say I never want to meet her

469
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 1: in person. A great interview and she's like shy, right,

470
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:55,920
Speaker 1: she's a little shy, and she just you know she

471
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you watch interviews with her at the beginning,

472
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,959
Speaker 1: and it's just guess, are not going to have Beyonce

473
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 1: on our favorite podcast? That was that was never going

474
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: to happen? Oh the World Hunter, any dream big enough,

475
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 1: anything can happen. This is you guys are growing in public,

476
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,680
Speaker 1: just like we're talking about these artists. So, oh my god,

477
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: it's totally mess about interview. But the thing is, she's

478
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 1: just so much more effective when she doesn't like talk everywhere,

479
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 1: because then like the only information you're getting from her

480
00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,360
Speaker 1: is her music, and it's so she's able to communicate

481
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: so much through music. She's not able to communicate by

482
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:43,439
Speaker 1: going through and doing all these interviews. That is how

483
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,399
Speaker 1: she communicates. Though we know about the whole jay Z

484
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 1: cheating thing through her music, we would never know that

485
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: in an interview with fascinating because really for most of

486
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,159
Speaker 1: the mid part of this decade, she didn't use words.

487
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,280
Speaker 1: It was like that New York song Madonna, Madonna's song

488
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:03,399
Speaker 1: bed TOMPs worries that your wrote today is the last

489
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: day that I'm using words. They've gone out, And it

490
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: was like you to stop using words, Yeah, stop using words.

491
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: Beyonce on Instagram it was just photos. It was just fast.

492
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 1: I remember when she started using words again and it

493
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: was a big, big deal. On your text chain, it

494
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 1: was a big deal. It's like Beyonce, he's using words again. Well,

495
00:25:26,560 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: you know, you're actually really leading to me to the

496
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 1: next topic I wanted to talk about with you, which

497
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: is your love of pop culture, actually your wealth of

498
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: knowledge about pop culture. I mean, it's unbelievable to me

499
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: that we're on a text chain, you in Courtney and

500
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: all of us and we talk about things. I mean,

501
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: there's things that you text us that I get a

502
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: text from you with an update of something that's happening,

503
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: and then I get a buzz feed notification of it,

504
00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 1: but you're before you really you bring it to me

505
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: before sometimes. Well, so that was news that was so

506
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 1: ABC Radio. I was in like tied into ABC News

507
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: for breaking news. So that's what my whole world was.

508
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,560
Speaker 1: So for ten years I was plugged into not just

509
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: with country music, but everything going on with every story

510
00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,920
Speaker 1: ABC News was covering was in my email. And so

511
00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,359
Speaker 1: that gives me anxiety. I did not realize what level

512
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:27,800
Speaker 1: of anxiety I was living with for that ten years. Um,

513
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: but it also taught me, you know, just to move

514
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: like quickly with stories. So I would, you know, be

515
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: getting the stories and moving on them very quickly. Uh

516
00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 1: So it's just built into you. Now, it's built into me.

517
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: But it's I think I've always been fascinated by pop culture.

518
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: Like when I was in third grade, my favorite teacher ever, Ms. Tompkins,

519
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,919
Speaker 1: had Us Magazine and People Magazine, and I would get

520
00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,280
Speaker 1: done with my work quicker than the other kids. Says

521
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: She'd let me read them and we would like talk

522
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: about pop culture all the time. And Mom still tells

523
00:26:58,040 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: this story. Did we tell this that like one day

524
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: she knew I was sick. Miss Tompkins knew I was

525
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: sick because Elizabeth Taylor's boyfriend, Malcolm Forbes, had got and

526
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 1: I didn't say anything about it, and I really was sick,

527
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: like I just didn't feel well, but she knew because

528
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:15,200
Speaker 1: I had not told her about Elizabeth Taylor's boyfriend that day.

529
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: Is none of this is not at all, But I

530
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: mean to your point, Kelly, like it really is. There's

531
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: stuff that Hunter pulls out, just a normal conversation that

532
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, should I know this from like or from yesterday?

533
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: I just the bank of information living in your brain

534
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: is it's just so extensive. It's very impressive. I welcome

535
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: genius on pop CULTUREL Well, just how they don't have

536
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: you on more television shows as like an expert. I

537
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: don't know, we're gonna work. Well, we need to really

538
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,760
Speaker 1: pitch that. Here's the pitch right here, we're putting this

539
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,239
Speaker 1: into the world. I love doing that kind of thing.

540
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: I think it's on the vision board. I think it's

541
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 1: just really you know, as a child, just was always inside,

542
00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,639
Speaker 1: like I wanted to watch television, it was like or whatever.

543
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 1: Music like that was what was fascinating to me. I

544
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: never wanted to go outside and play. Really yeah, interesting

545
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,639
Speaker 1: always sucked into. Do you think I've learned to balance

546
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,439
Speaker 1: it a little better? I mean, and in this day

547
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: and age, there's no way to be upon everything you

548
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: can't keep up. So you do a pretty good job

549
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 1: speaking of these topics that what are things on your

550
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: radar right now? So basically when I need to unwind

551
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: at night and just like not read the real news

552
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: of a friend of mine turned me onto the Daily Mail,

553
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: and I love the Daily Mail and it is just

554
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: so good because it's a bunch of pictures, but it's

555
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: not It's just kind of straight news. But I can't

556
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 1: believe some of the stuff that they posed. So this

557
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 1: is coming out like Bob Barker in a wheelchair in

558
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 1: Beverly Hills this week. Barker is still a lot from

559
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 1: the prices. Wow. And then Gwyneth Paltrow, I'm obsessed with

560
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: her new has been bred Fauchi producer. So apparently they

561
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: weren't living together and so they're finally living together, and

562
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: Jimmy Kimmel got it out of her that she let

563
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: him bring some chairs into the house. Well, okay, can

564
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 1: we dive into this topic a little bit because Gwyneth

565
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,960
Speaker 1: is known for the conscious uncoupling as well. So she's

566
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: very progressive in these relationship issues. So I guess in

567
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 1: her conscious couplings like, okay, these are the chairs she

568
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,800
Speaker 1: can bring into the home. I mean, so what they

569
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: were married for a year, is that the deal before

570
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: he moved in? They both have what was the arrangement kids,

571
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: and so they were trying to bring them together. I mean,

572
00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: I do understand the melanie, especially when you have a

573
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: million dollar home in the Hampton's. Is that where they

574
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: moved well, they both I think they probably both had

575
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 1: houses and the st from each other. And I know

576
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,200
Speaker 1: that her I know that Gwyneth's place in New York

577
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 1: is like sick because we have a friend who like

578
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 1: goes and stays there sometimes. Well, but that's kind of

579
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: my question is why it's not like they don't have

580
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: the space. So it's a whole different world when you're

581
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 1: talking about like the people with multiple homes and what

582
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 1: does really moving into your house moving in together mean

583
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,320
Speaker 1: when you have seven homes around the world? Right, But

584
00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 1: did they say that they stay together? I think I

585
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: read somewhere that it was like they stayed together like

586
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: two or three times a week. I can't speak to

587
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 1: them okay, which is my favorite phrase, I can't speak

588
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: to that well. And he did that. When when do

589
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,280
Speaker 1: you say that, I say, I can't speak to that well.

590
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: In this case, I don't know. But it also leads

591
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,400
Speaker 1: you to believe that maybe I know something, but I

592
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: just can't. I just can't say it. I can't speak

593
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: to them, okay. I mean, he's grinning while he's saying.

594
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: I used to wonder, though, So I used to law,

595
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: asked you a question you don't want answer. You can't

596
00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: speak to them, you know what. I used to wonder.

597
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: So back when we so now like I have YouTube TV,

598
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: so it goes everywhere. It's just in the cloud. Back

599
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: when we had DVRs and we were allowed on defense

600
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: still happen. I still got dr I was watching it

601
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: last night with my Taco Bell. Taco Bell will night. Well,

602
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: I bet in a dinner and then I drank some

603
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 1: wine and then I'm like home. I was like, I

604
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,800
Speaker 1: should probably eat something. And on the way home, the

605
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: only thing there was was Taco Bell. I was like, well,

606
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 1: what did you order? I guess I'll go on a

607
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 1: dtox next week. Tax has been held off calling it out.

608
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: I did three hard shell tacos. I'm delicious, Oh Pepsi, Wow,

609
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm really part of the preference Cocacola. But if it's

610
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 1: not unless there's a sponsorship on here and then I

611
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: need to Okay, you can feel free, but that's you know,

612
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 1: the partnership of Pepsi's Taco Bell. So there's no options

613
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: a young brands. It is all young brands from Louisville, Kentucky,

614
00:31:55,600 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: your hometown hometown. You're right anyway, So we were talking

615
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: about can't speak to that with our little talk about tangent,

616
00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: but you were you can't speak to what were we

617
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: saying that multiple homes? I used to wonder and I

618
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,479
Speaker 1: would ask my friends who had access to people who

619
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: had multiple homes, what do you do with your DVR

620
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: in season past? Like? Is it up to each house

621
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 1: manager to make sure that your shows are set up?

622
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: Are set up? It seems like you could have one

623
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 1: account for all your house, your homes in different countries,

624
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: you'd have different cables. You Lucky for us, we don't

625
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: have that problem. Doesn't have the one that the mega

626
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: rich we're not seeing grayce anatomy man really worried. I

627
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: understand keeping up at night. They can watch it wherever

628
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:46,280
Speaker 1: in the client you. Thank goodness, they solved that problem

629
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: for the Internet. So I was looking though I kind

630
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: of tend to I think with pop culture it's really

631
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: like sometimes I'm into like people who are famous for

632
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: no reason, like me reality stars. Yeah, shuts fire, that's

633
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:13,080
Speaker 1: not true. Okay, your favorite guys, I don't consider I

634
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: don't consider you that way. You like actually like, well,

635
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,280
Speaker 1: because I'm not famous, I didn't say that you're famous.

636
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: People love you on planes that that's true than just

637
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 1: you can't take himself out of this one apologize. I

638
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 1: don't consider you really think I care. I'm just working

639
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 1: with you. People who are famous for no reason, Like,

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Speaker 1: give me some examples. Well, there was this person I

641
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: used to readalisted dot com a lot. Oh, I've heard

642
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,760
Speaker 1: about this site and I kind of came back to

643
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: it recently. But I used to be my Bible and

644
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: there was this woman that was around l a that

645
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: And this was before Instagram. So that's kind of thinking

646
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: of like, if you have an Instagram following, like, then

647
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: you like are actually doing something too. I consider because

648
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: I consider Instagram television now it's so true, and audience

649
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 1: on Instagram you're doing something to engage your audience. There's

650
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: something happening. But as this woman I forget her name,

651
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: but he would call her chicken cutlets just because her

652
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: implants on her cheeks look like chicken cutlets. Her cheek

653
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 1: implants did, yeah, looked like she had like two chicken

654
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: cutlets up in the I forget I forget her name.

655
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,040
Speaker 1: She was in l A and she would just show

656
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: up and she kind of looked like Lana del Rey

657
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:39,919
Speaker 1: would like lighter red hair. But she would just show

658
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,840
Speaker 1: up and for no reason, and he would just follow

659
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: her everywhere she went, like she would show up at

660
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: all these parties. There's this guy listed dot com, listed

661
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: dot com, so he's Michael Kay. You listed dot com.

662
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,399
Speaker 1: So when Jessica Simpson came to do her country album

663
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: about ten years ago, I remember, the only thing I

664
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: wanted to talk to Jessica Simpson about was chicken cutlets.

665
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: I was like, do you know this woman? Did she know?

666
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: She's never heard? Jessica. You like have a career and

667
00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 1: you're legit famous and make like three hundred million a

668
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: year on your fashion line, but do you know this

669
00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: woman lightning chicken cutlet? Well? I forget her name. I

670
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: wish that you could remember. I don't know a girl

671
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: with what do you say? Chicken cutlet facing plane? Oh

672
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: my god. We also mentioned this is a little bit

673
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: of a side tangent, but last time when I was

674
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: texting with you, you brought up your current obsession with

675
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: the Aaron Carter situation. It's really like, it kind of

676
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,240
Speaker 1: reminds me of watching Brittany in the Mid two things.

677
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: Because Brittany, while her Instagram account is concerning right now,

678
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 1: it is a little concerning. You know, she's probably getting

679
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: the help she needs. Aaron Carter, I mean, it's just

680
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: kind of nuts. I didn't really know much about the

681
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: Carter family until I watched on them, and that's really

682
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: got what got interested, just because of all the kind

683
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: of dysfunction that goes on. So now there, I mean,

684
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,800
Speaker 1: the stuff that's come out about Aaron, like restraining orders

685
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: from the brothers, that he's like thing to kill their

686
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 1: baby pregnant. Now they're pregnant, white, isn't it. And then

687
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: he was taking a drug test on television. I've seen

688
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,359
Speaker 1: him on the Doctors when he was kind of having

689
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,280
Speaker 1: downs and stuff, And for some reason I just started

690
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: following him on Instagram, and I'm really concerned for him.

691
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,320
Speaker 1: This is me projecting because I can't remember if it

692
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: was him. Was it was he one of the guys

693
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: that was accused of assault. That was Nick. I think

694
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: that was Nick, the Backstreet Boy that And that's what Aaron.

695
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: That's what Aaron is saying. He's like, I'm not the

696
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: only crazy, like he's airing laundry about them, saying that

697
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: Nick assaulted somebody. He's actually trying to team up with

698
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:54,320
Speaker 1: the girls on Twitter and well the other day he

699
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 1: was like he was tagging the FBI in his post.

700
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 1: Oh god, your god, just don't contact the f Well,

701
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:05,840
Speaker 1: maybe you do in this day and age, contact the

702
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: FBI via Twitter. I mean you could probably contact the president,

703
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: so might as well mental health. This is an interesting

704
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: thing with the child stars though, because you mentioned Brittany.

705
00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a little worried about Brittany these days too.

706
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: I have a special place in my heart for her.

707
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 1: Do you guys know about this? Jojo? See? Why see

708
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 1: what wasn't there just a concert? There was? She's the

709
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: big rage right now with all the kids. She's like

710
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: sixteen though, and I'm like, she's going to be a monster,

711
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 1: and I'm just waiting for her to shave her head

712
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: and do have her brittany moment. I don't know how.

713
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: They don't know. I know, but if you're selling out

714
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: arenas at the age of sixteen, you have no capacity

715
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: to deal with real way. I mean there is no

716
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: way I can't imagine. I mean, well, well, Arne, I

717
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,800
Speaker 1: will be You didn't have that, I mean that was

718
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: a local celebrity. All right, how have you adjusted? Hard? Hard? Yeah,

719
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: the transition. I'm sure he did not send you his

720
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,880
Speaker 1: rider before we came back. I'm so sorry that I

721
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,839
Speaker 1: did not have She had coffee with all wind milk

722
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,080
Speaker 1: and sparkling water. I mean I didn't. I didn't have

723
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Speaker 1: your red Eminem's for you. Are those specific? You didn't

724
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Speaker 1: have bring it? You didn't have his right his turkey

725
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: wrap perfect. I'm so sorry. I really failed to. Okay,

726
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: So obviously you guys have a lot of interviewing situations happening,

727
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: but you also got these side projects that I'm so

728
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: obsessed with. First of all, I was watching Dollar Club

729
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: this morning, Ashley. I've seen a lot of these and

730
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: they always make me crap. Can you tell everybody what

731
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 1: that is that you do. So the Dollar Club, it's

732
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 1: my volunteer gig. Yeah. Um. It started about five years

733
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 1: ago and the church should I go to in town

734
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: called cross Point, which is when the massive churches in town.

735
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: They had this idea that if you could have everybody

736
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: pulled together just like a dollar, put in a dollar,

737
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,320
Speaker 1: pull that money together, find a need in the community

738
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: that needs to be filled, and go fill it. Because

739
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: so many people feel like, especially in this town where

740
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,920
Speaker 1: it's like there's so many creative, so many college students,

741
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 1: they want to be able to give back, but they

742
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: feel like if they can't give a lot, then it's

743
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: not going to make a difference. And so they have

744
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: this idea like, okay, well everyone could do a dollar,

745
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: so pull that money together. So they did, but they

746
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,000
Speaker 1: added caveat as they send me and our video team

747
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: into whoever the beneficiary is that month, and it ends

748
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: up being anywhere from seven to ten thousand dollars every month.

749
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: This month that we actually just filmed this week is

750
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: going to be. Um. I think I can say this,

751
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be liked. I saw one today where

752
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 1: it was like ad That was when we went to India, yea,

753
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:52,080
Speaker 1: I sobbed like a year insane. Um. So basically we

754
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: go in and I just get the story. They have

755
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: no idea what it we're doing. Just tell them like

756
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: we're going to share their story. And then you know,

757
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,760
Speaker 1: there's always some hardship and it could be a family

758
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 1: and individual, it could be. Uh, we've done some around

759
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: the floods and Mountain Rouge. We went to Vegas for

760
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: one obviously, just went to India a year ago, um

761
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: and help build a boy's home over there to help

762
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: get boys out of it. Well when you say boys home, though,

763
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: I mean the video kind of does it just as

764
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,960
Speaker 1: I feel like, because you can see the slums that

765
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: they're living in. You can see even the building that

766
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: they were building is like wrapped by this train and track.

767
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 1: I mean, it's not this glamorous life but survival almost right.

768
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: And otherwise, I mean the hope there's you know, there's

769
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,040
Speaker 1: not a lot of hope in the slums for life

770
00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: and drug uses rampant and so anyway, Um, So we

771
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: started that like five years ago and do it once

772
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: a month, and it has been the greatest gift in

773
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 1: my life to get to be a part of that's

774
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: really what your heart wants to do though right You

775
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 1: said that in our text earlier too, you said, my

776
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,680
Speaker 1: heart really is really towards telling great stories that encourage

777
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: and empower other It's all over the world, and this

778
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,040
Speaker 1: is something where it's where I realized the power of

779
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 1: a story, because at that point the only interviews I've

780
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 1: ever done were really with artists talking about records, and

781
00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:10,520
Speaker 1: there was just sort of something in my gut that

782
00:41:10,680 --> 00:41:13,759
Speaker 1: was like, I feel, I think I've been given these

783
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: gifts to be able to do this and tell stories

784
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 1: in this way, but I want to be able to

785
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:20,320
Speaker 1: do it in a way that is, you know, like

786
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: you said, encouraging power of the people. But I've never

787
00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 1: told a serious story before until I sat down to

788
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: do a dollar Club and was terrified. And then it's

789
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:32,280
Speaker 1: just sort of evolved into this thing where of everything

790
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 1: I do, I get stopped about that more than anything else.

791
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: And you just see where the power of our stories,

792
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: how we see ourselves in them. But then when a

793
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 1: community comes together to help other people, the massive difference

794
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 1: it can make. So it's just every time we film one,

795
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: the team and I always just step back and are like,

796
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 1: why do we get to be totally a part of this,

797
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 1: and well, one, it gives you perspective of your life

798
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: and how lucky all of us are. But when you

799
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: see the faces of those people, when you guys tell

800
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: them you have the money to help them, I mean

801
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: that that's obviously when the tears start flowing. I mean

802
00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:08,279
Speaker 1: I can't right. I used to be able to control it,

803
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: and I think I was just in some sort of zone,

804
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: like you know, back in the day, I felt like, oh,

805
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: I need to be like the perfect interview in da

806
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,880
Speaker 1: da da da. And then when you really let yourself

807
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: be present in the moment, it's just that's where the

808
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: beauty happens. And so I basically crying. Everyone just let

809
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: it down. You got to Yeah, and I see you

810
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,880
Speaker 1: bringing that into all our favorite people as well. How

811
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: does she do that? Well? So when we started all

812
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: our favorite people, actually and I wanted to work together

813
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: for a long time, and it finally worked for us

814
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:39,399
Speaker 1: just too. We were having coffee and we were both

815
00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,239
Speaker 1: um for the first time in a long time, not

816
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:46,240
Speaker 1: working for a major tied to a major media company,

817
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: and so we got together and just kind of tried

818
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:52,600
Speaker 1: talking to each other. Um for all our favorite people

819
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 1: just to see what would be like our energy back

820
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 1: and forth on literally was like, why don't you come

821
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: over and let's just try this and I get over it.

822
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: As how Alison, we sit on his kitchen table and

823
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: he's got a recorder going. I was like, Okay, there

824
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 1: we go. Yeah, let's do it. And so but you know,

825
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: we're very intentional on the show about having shining a

826
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: light on people that we want. We think you're going

827
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 1: to get something out of knowing what they're doing or

828
00:43:18,239 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: you know what they're making, or just that they're great

829
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 1: or funny people. And like, so Ashley and I like,

830
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: you've really that's a thing, like we really want these

831
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: people on the show to like encourage and also it's

832
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,759
Speaker 1: drawing out the heart of who people are. And yeah,

833
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 1: I've just learned so much in the last couple of

834
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,520
Speaker 1: years after going through a lot of turmoil in the

835
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 1: last ten years, and really in the last couple like therapy,

836
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 1: which I was talking about because I love it and

837
00:43:48,360 --> 00:43:51,439
Speaker 1: it's the best and hardest thing I've done, digging into

838
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: your crap, but it can be so free and I

839
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: think I learned so much when people are actually vulnerable

840
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: and and real about the stuff, um, and that's what

841
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: you know, we all go through things and we can

842
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: learn something from each other. So and then how can

843
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,640
Speaker 1: we just be better to each other? And so I

844
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 1: mean even like you know, you come on the podcast

845
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 1: or anybody that we've had on, it's trying to get

846
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: to the heart of who they are and what really

847
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: matters to them, but doing in a way that it

848
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: kind of connects all of us on a really human level.

849
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: I think the connecting piece that I think that's so

850
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,560
Speaker 1: true because the connecting piece that I always fill with

851
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: people is when I hear them be vulnerable, be vulnerable

852
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 1: and honest. Especially these artists are these people who seemingly

853
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,880
Speaker 1: have everything together on the outside and then you go,

854
00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: wait a second, they're not so different than me. Like

855
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,560
Speaker 1: I think that I just in the last couple of years,

856
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: and we've talked about this, like I struggled so much

857
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: with like the Instagram perfect life and comparison, and like,

858
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:46,719
Speaker 1: how am I supposed to function with this? And I

859
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:48,360
Speaker 1: feel like I'm supposed to be perfect on I'm like

860
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 1: this is bs. I would rather have these really real

861
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 1: conversations in us, like you know, and figuring out how

862
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 1: you want to function within that to where you know, what,

863
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: how do I want to say this? I just everybody's

864
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: like people are having a hard time, so it's like,

865
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 1: how can we really, like we said, encourage the part

866
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 1: each other, but also like have fun. Like that's been

867
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: the fun thing for us is yes, we'll get to

868
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: the heart of stuff on the podcast, but we also

869
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 1: I mean we laugh a lot and have this great

870
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,440
Speaker 1: I mean it's great, right, there's a lot of hilarity. Well,

871
00:45:17,480 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: that's a good that's a good balance. I think that

872
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: you guys both bring where maybe you can pull some

873
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 1: of the heart strings out and Hunter's got a lot

874
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: of the humor coming at you. Just happened. Just the

875
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:33,320
Speaker 1: balance guys together too. You never really really but like

876
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: that's we laugh about because people are like, are you

877
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 1: trying to make me cry? I'm like, no, I'm just

878
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,359
Speaker 1: like asking the questions that you're just asking the real questions. Well,

879
00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 1: and y'all's description you even say, these are our favorite

880
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:46,919
Speaker 1: people that we've connected with in some way, shape or form,

881
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: And this is about the messiness of life, which that's

882
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 1: how life is, right, It's just everybody's kind of messy,

883
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,759
Speaker 1: and for the most part, we have to meet the

884
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: people before they come on the show. I didn't meet

885
00:45:57,160 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 1: you before, did well? She she I was. I was like,

886
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,760
Speaker 1: we're going to have Kelly. Yeah, she'll be awesome. Sometimes

887
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 1: it's like sometimes it's like getting to know them on

888
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,840
Speaker 1: the air, and that's a wonderful situation. That's happened a

889
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 1: few times for me that I've like come away meeting people.

890
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:16,920
Speaker 1: But for the most part, it's kind of like, Okay,

891
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,000
Speaker 1: we kind of have a like we'd like to meet

892
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 1: before and because it just allows for a different conversation yea,

893
00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: when the people are really familiar, at least to one

894
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,080
Speaker 1: of us, try to make it for the most part,

895
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,799
Speaker 1: but like for you, it was actually you actually knew

896
00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 1: each other very well, so I'm able to bring in

897
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: kind of getting to know you right, which I think

898
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:43,480
Speaker 1: also for the listener, they're getting to know you. For

899
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:45,800
Speaker 1: like when we have Beth Granted and the character actress

900
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 1: who has been in like all these Oscar winning movies,

901
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: like she knew her well, I knew her. Yeah, Like,

902
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,479
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you're and everything right, and she's friends

903
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 1: with Sandy Bullock and I'm like, God, your girls congenous.

904
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, when kind of she s best too, when

905
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: I also feel like Hunter, I feel like I knew

906
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: you the second I met you. We just connected on

907
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: the I wanted you from listening to the Velvet Stche podcast.

908
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: I was like, oh yeah, like I just you know,

909
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:14,920
Speaker 1: already already bought a book that you'd recommended. By the

910
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: time we met, it was on your desk when I

911
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 1: walked in. I'm just so thankful to bring this new

912
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: friendship together. I will say our group text with Courtney.

913
00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: I got out of something yesterday and I was it

914
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: had been maybe an hour, maybe an hour and a half,

915
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,040
Speaker 1: and they were like twenty eight text messages and most

916
00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 1: of them were the two of you, and I was

917
00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: Courtney's brittish. So Courtney is our friend who's in publicity

918
00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: here in nash She's so. I was down to Kylie

919
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:46,360
Speaker 1: Minogue video Rabbit Hole and Robbie Williams, and I'm fascinated

920
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:49,319
Speaker 1: by how big artists are overseas or in different parts

921
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 1: of the country and we cannot even know about them

922
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: over here. Yeah. Yeah, So I'm a fan of Robbie Williams,

923
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 1: who's huge, massive over there, and he honestly have no

924
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,839
Speaker 1: clear you're talking about yeah, exactly. He kind of had

925
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: a brush with fame in America. Give me a song. Um,

926
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:10,319
Speaker 1: I'm loving Angels instead. Oh I know that, And it's

927
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: Jessica Simpson cover to bring it back to Jason Jason.

928
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, So I just needed to talk to her

929
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: about that, and it's just fascinating to me. I'm glad

930
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 1: you included us on that conversation, right, the more you

931
00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: know you no one else I'm fascinated about, like an

932
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,919
Speaker 1: artist who has a separate career outside of America, Slingdon's

933
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: French career really yeah, I don't know, but what She's

934
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:36,320
Speaker 1: also huge in America, massive, but she has a completely

935
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: different catalog of French hits in other parts of the world. Median,

936
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: she's French Connectian. Do you guys remember her rap song

937
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: Cheator like a Lady One Man? And it's just like

938
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 1: that's something you have any of your other guests just

939
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: broken into song crazy don't like? Okay, I have to

940
00:49:09,640 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: talk about since we're singing, let's talk about the Juds

941
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: for a second, because I mean, first of all, I

942
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: did not know you both were connected to the Juds,

943
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:20,840
Speaker 1: which just was mind blowing to me. But Hunter is

944
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: currently doing this this project called Neon Songbooks, which I

945
00:49:25,520 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 1: got super sucked into this morning as well. I can't

946
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: wait to finish a need to finish episode one so

947
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 1: I can get onto episode two. Um, but what so

948
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 1: what made you tell us first of all about the project? Well,

949
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: Neon Songbooks started around the same time as all our

950
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: favorite people. Okay, so which was what about a year ago? Okay? So,

951
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: I uh a company I was working. I was working

952
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: a Cox Media group and the company folded. The park

953
00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: just folded, So you know, I lost my job rare

954
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: country right, lost my job, but got a good severance

955
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: and kind of was like, for the first time in

956
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 1: fifteen years able to figure out like, okay, what do

957
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: I want to do? You know, and kind of move freely.

958
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,360
Speaker 1: And it was really what a dream project for me was.

959
00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: I always wanted to talk. I always took every opportunity

960
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: to talk to one on in Naomi Judd, and their

961
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 1: story for me was so ingrained in my love of

962
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: music because when I was three years old, I was

963
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,880
Speaker 1: like drawn to their harmonies and then growing up just

964
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,440
Speaker 1: just love their music. It was like that acoustic thing.

965
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:33,359
Speaker 1: It was tied in with a mountain. The mountain kind

966
00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: of music and grew to just love them so passionately,

967
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: to the point that when I was fourteen, I was

968
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:41,879
Speaker 1: the section leader of the One on a Fan club

969
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: on Company Serve, which was a was a O L

970
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: and Compy Serve. Never even heard of copy, sir. It

971
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: was like before a O L just took over. It

972
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: was school high school. I was fourteen years old, hosting

973
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:00,400
Speaker 1: one on a fan chance, doing one on a give ways,

974
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: writing about wine note, writing posts about wine own, not

975
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 1: like seriously what I did at ABC News. I was

976
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:10,880
Speaker 1: doing at fourteen for wine Own on online. And so

977
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: her album Tell Me Why I came out and only

978
00:51:13,680 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: three when I was twelve, and it really just opened

979
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: me up to um everything is as far as like

980
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: Bonnie Bonnie Ray, Emmy lu Harris, Linda Ronstadt, James Taylor,

981
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 1: like all these people who made these singer songwriter records.

982
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: And so that album is still to this day my

983
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 1: favorite album ever. But with the judds Um they are

984
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 1: larger than life. On Oprah. They were on Oprah all

985
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,359
Speaker 1: the time. They have their own Oprah show, and there's

986
00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,800
Speaker 1: always something there so honest about what's going on with

987
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 1: their life and their their their drama and troubles and

988
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,600
Speaker 1: that really endears them. But what gets lost in that

989
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 1: is just how brilliant the music is. And so I

990
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: decided that I for myself, but also to kind of

991
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,279
Speaker 1: get it back out there. Why the Judds deserved to

992
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 1: be Like in the country music, they're not what they're not,

993
00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: and they're starting to get passed over like people who

994
00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,480
Speaker 1: came out after them were starting to get ahead of them.

995
00:52:12,200 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: And I just don't think that the powers that be.

996
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 1: I think I think the drama or their personalities kind

997
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: of overshadow what they did, which was really there in there.

998
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: They predate Randy Travis. You know, they're in there with

999
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: Reba and Ricky Skaggs as getting country music back to

1000
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: the roots in the heart of what it was in

1001
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,320
Speaker 1: the eighties. But I mean, fourteen number one hits in

1002
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: six years, how do you, yeah, how do you pass

1003
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: over that? Well? I think it's just gotten lost. So

1004
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: I went and got it together to interview Winona and

1005
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 1: Naomi in depth, plus their producers Brent Mayer and bandleader

1006
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 1: Don Potter, and also a lot of their contemporary so

1007
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:59,480
Speaker 1: Reba Trician, Ricky Skaggs, Emmy Lou Harris Um and then

1008
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: the people they influenced Trish I think I mentioned Tricia

1009
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:07,160
Speaker 1: Kicks Brooks, Shane mcinally, and Brandy Clark to talk about

1010
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: the story of the music of the Judge, So it's

1011
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: about it starts with when they discovered music and started

1012
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:17,279
Speaker 1: singing together and how they formed this music out of

1013
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,399
Speaker 1: there because they loved everything they loved like big band music,

1014
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: they loved bluegrass music, they loved country music. So they

1015
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:26,520
Speaker 1: were soaking it all in and then they were able

1016
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: to with Brent and Dine, formed this sound that just

1017
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: still to this day sounds so fresh and and just

1018
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,479
Speaker 1: the thought that went into it. And so it really

1019
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: is it's only covering up until the Judge, the duo

1020
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:43,759
Speaker 1: breaks up. I was very intentional about just wanting to

1021
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:47,759
Speaker 1: focus on that because why known as story is still ongoing.

1022
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 1: But the thing is, why don't a Judge's voice loves

1023
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: me away? And so to see her evolution, I mean,

1024
00:53:55,160 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: she started turning out of the gate at eighteen, just

1025
00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: sounding like a million bucks singing on number in country hits,

1026
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: but then you see her coming into her own and

1027
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 1: Naomi as a songwriter and just it's just such a

1028
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 1: brilliant story that's not really told the prompt. The problem

1029
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 1: is a thing of the tenacity of them. I mean,

1030
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:17,760
Speaker 1: like we're coming from nothing from nothing, like the story

1031
00:54:17,880 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 1: of you know, Naomi and the hospital I need a

1032
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:24,360
Speaker 1: nurse and um. But you know you I've loved watching

1033
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 1: him develop this project because one having worked for why

1034
00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, for several years, which I did not know,

1035
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: by the way, that's crazy, that's awesome. But you know,

1036
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 1: she's one of the reasons that I'm in this business

1037
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,959
Speaker 1: now because growing up I just loved the Judd's music

1038
00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: and then you know, and we just love singing it.

1039
00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: It's like her intrition Shanaian. So it's been fun like

1040
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 1: to watch Hunter dive back into all of this because

1041
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 1: I'm learning so much. I mean I learned, I learned

1042
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 1: so much putting this together. But it's intense, Like these

1043
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 1: episodes are like an hour long. It's probably gonna be

1044
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: about seven episodes, and it really is is a really

1045
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: intense project that I loved it because it's really like

1046
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: putting together a book, like and I think it probably

1047
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,800
Speaker 1: could be a book at some point. The problem that

1048
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: we've run into is really licensing songs, like so we've

1049
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 1: been talking to everybody as far as like partners in

1050
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,920
Speaker 1: the podcast world and everything, and it's just the amount

1051
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,000
Speaker 1: of songs that we want to license for this is

1052
00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 1: cost prohibitive, so figuring out or if anybody has fifty

1053
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:31,360
Speaker 1: but I need to figure I need to figure it

1054
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,440
Speaker 1: out because it really is so special. And it's also

1055
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: they deserve this, and you know, and I think that

1056
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: when it comes to like whatever one own is now

1057
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,840
Speaker 1: moving into Americana, that whole world a little more and

1058
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,839
Speaker 1: she was rightfully should be there, the kingpins of Americana.

1059
00:55:47,360 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: I love the Jets music. Um so yeah. I think

1060
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,000
Speaker 1: it's really just they are so important to me. They're

1061
00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:56,320
Speaker 1: so foundational for me that I want them to have

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00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: their place, their proper place, and be respect for the

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00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,239
Speaker 1: music that they brought to the table and how they

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00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: changed the game in country music. I will say, I

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00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: give the Kim Burns documentary that just happened. Country music

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00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 1: did give the judge their due, and I was really

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00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 1: glad to see that. I'm dying. So they go through

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00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,759
Speaker 1: and they get as much time as Reba Ricky snags,

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00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, and so their place in there. I hope

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00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:25,800
Speaker 1: that will help establish. But it's really, so the idea

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00:56:25,960 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: for it neon some book. At first, it's just started

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00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:30,320
Speaker 1: out as the Judds because I love them and I

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00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: want them to go in the country music Call of Fame.

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00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: But then I realized, there's all these other artists who

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00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: have now fifteen year careers. We need to start shaping

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00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,720
Speaker 1: your narrative why you matter. Like I look at somebody

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00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: like Carrie Underwood, who we just saw the other night,

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00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:46,360
Speaker 1: and I remember when she first got to town, you know,

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00:56:46,520 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: just from American Idol and the career that she's built.

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00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean, if you just said, hey, this girl on

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00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: one American Idols. She's got a great voice and the

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00:56:54,120 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 1: career that she's built. As far as being like selling

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00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: out these arenas, putting together these shows that rival Reba's

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00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 1: back in the nanties, which it needs to be Entertainer

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Speaker 1: of the Year this year. Won't drop that right oh okay,

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00:57:07,200 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: right now saying yeh, but you think she needs to be,

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00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm just I would love to see her. I would

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00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: love to see her with that show is insane because

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00:57:15,040 --> 00:57:16,600
Speaker 1: a lot of times with the Entertainer of the Year,

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00:57:17,120 --> 00:57:19,479
Speaker 1: you'll see like they deserve it for this year because

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00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: they've gone over the top, but like the body of

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00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,680
Speaker 1: work as well, and Carrie has has done that over

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00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:27,680
Speaker 1: and over again. So I think like Carrie is a

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00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: prime candidate at some point to do something like a

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00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:33,880
Speaker 1: Neon song book, because you, as the artist who have

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00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: this long career, want to have first crack at how

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00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,200
Speaker 1: you're remembered, right, you know. I also just see I mean,

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00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: like we were talking about we started this, like you're

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00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 1: such a wealth of knowledge and stuff that the rest

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00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 1: is like I just don't remember. We think about and

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00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 1: I really feel like in looking at the next generation

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00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: of I feel like you'll be the next generation of

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00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: historian of country music, which I mean I've always said

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00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 1: I want my Walmart Greater job to be at the

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, like I want to just like you

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00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 1: should people who are like old as hell, yeah you

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00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:09,120
Speaker 1: know where they work up in there. You absolutely should

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00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: be the face of the whole thing. Well, but your

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00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: your heart for it, your passion for it, your wealth

1110
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: of knowledge, and the way I think to just watching

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00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,320
Speaker 1: you from the outside, the way you've poured into this project,

1112
00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: and I have no doubt that it's going to see

1113
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: the light of day in a massive way at some

1114
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,840
Speaker 1: point it's just it's just got to find the right

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00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: home and the time he's got to be right. Well,

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00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:32,240
Speaker 1: I have to say, when I was driving over here today,

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00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,240
Speaker 1: I was listening to episode one, and I didn't want

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00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: to get out of my car. First of all, Like,

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00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: your questions are amazing and you're right, like you're it's

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00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,920
Speaker 1: definitely geared towards the music, which is what I want

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00:58:40,960 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 1: to know from an artist. You know that we don't

1122
00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:45,760
Speaker 1: always get to hear the back stories, but they are

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00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:50,640
Speaker 1: such an interesting duo to just listen to speaking like that,

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00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,200
Speaker 1: the way that they talk and just the stories they tell,

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00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:57,160
Speaker 1: especially with them because it is so the music is

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00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:00,440
Speaker 1: so tied up with their relationship, right, And if you're

1127
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,640
Speaker 1: going to talk to the judge, getting them to talk

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00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:05,440
Speaker 1: about the drama that goes on between them is so

1129
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:08,040
Speaker 1: much more compelling in a bite sized format. And like,

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00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: here's how we are musical evolution, right, But the musical

1131
00:59:12,080 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: evolution um that they went through and caused in country

1132
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: music needs attention. Well, I also need to talk about,

1133
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,920
Speaker 1: you know, my love for the juds, which oh, okay,

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00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,080
Speaker 1: so enjoyed this video brought to the by the video

1135
00:59:28,200 --> 00:59:30,360
Speaker 1: you're speaking of is what was. I put this on

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00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: my Instagram from Seven Peaks this year, which is the

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00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 1: music festival that Dirk s Bentley does. Dirk's manager who

1138
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Speaker 1: was also one of my very good friends, Mary how

1139
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 1: you're Harrington Pistol A pistol if you will. We dressed

1140
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Speaker 1: up as the judge for nineties Country Night and also

1141
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 1: made a video for Love to Build a bridget. I

1142
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: was just like, this is the best thing I've ever seen.

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00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you well. So I sent this to

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00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: Hunter in the past week and he sent it to

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01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: wine Oonah. I'm still dead over that. I can't even

1146
01:00:06,200 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: process her hair went to Kim's Hair World. She wanted

1147
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,640
Speaker 1: to do our hair for us or get us better

1148
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,400
Speaker 1: with yeah you need I mean, if you're going to

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01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 1: do it, I win his one Owner a few years ago.

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01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:22,600
Speaker 1: You so want to see pictures of that Halloween, So

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01:00:22,640 --> 01:00:24,040
Speaker 1: of course I win his wine Owner from the Tell

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01:00:24,120 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 1: Me Why album covers the pirate shirt, puffy shirt with

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01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: the black vest and the red Oh I remember this look? Yes, Okay,

1154
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: my mama used to say that look on One Owner

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01:00:34,480 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: was like a wicked city woman was a little a

1156
01:00:37,960 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: little concerned about our hair. Well know, she said to

1157
01:00:41,080 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: me like, I love you, Hunter, and you look great.

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01:00:42,680 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: Don't never do it again. You're outfit me. That's why

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01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 1: I can't believe you sent her our video, wouldn't. I mean,

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Speaker 1: was she flattered or was she annoyed? She loved? I

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01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 1: mean with her hair because why don't as much as

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01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: why don't loves the music, but also her hair, I

1163
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:03,920
Speaker 1: mean makeup. If you go back and look, it's intense.

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01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: They did all their own hair and makeup. Really now,

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01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: they had friend I think Earl Cox, and they had

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Speaker 1: makeup artists, especially for anything you see like album cover

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01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,080
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, Awards shows. Um now Wine had to

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01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,560
Speaker 1: do Nammies here before the show. Okay. I felt like

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01:01:19,600 --> 01:01:21,800
Speaker 1: I just remembered a story where they did all of

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Speaker 1: their own. But I could be I don't know what

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01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm thinking of. Well, that's probably why she's like I

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Speaker 1: should do these girls trying to be me and not

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01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: looking right. If you want to see that video, it's

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01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:36,919
Speaker 1: on my Instagram under my seven pieces post and also

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01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: in Wine known as text thread with Hunter, which is

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01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: I don't even know what to mean. If you're going

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Speaker 1: to send out like video Christmas cards, I feel like

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Speaker 1: that should be included I didn't think about that, but

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Speaker 1: that's actually a great idea. Thank you for that. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to Jim. I mean I could barely look up because

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01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: I was laughing so hard at Mary Hilliard owning that

1182
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: wine owner character, Mary Hilliard. It came from such a

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01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 1: place of love and respect for the judg Absolutely, she

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01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: was like, we're going to do this justice. I mean,

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01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,840
Speaker 1: and I hear them all the time, like on serious

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01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:09,200
Speaker 1: ex m on like Prime Country and the Garth Channel,

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01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: Like the juds are a major part of it, and

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01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,440
Speaker 1: I just think they neither do they need to go

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Speaker 1: in the country music? I agree, let's start the petition

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01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 1: where can people find you? Guys? Podcast? Because we mentioned

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01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,680
Speaker 1: a little bit to All our Favorite People podcast which

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01:02:24,720 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: I've been on. It is so much fun. I love

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01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 1: I listened to the one with Jay to Marcus last night.

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01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: I love him. He's so He's so funny. But like,

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01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,880
Speaker 1: what was so great about that podcast is sort of

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01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:36,760
Speaker 1: what we were talking about, where he really kind of

1197
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 1: dove into the messiness of life and that it's not

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01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: perfect and he's hit a lot of land what is

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Speaker 1: it called lands? I was gonna say land blocks, roadblocks

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01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:50,840
Speaker 1: and Landman's command. Um, and that's always interesting to hear

1201
01:02:50,840 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: about because they've also reached such great success with Rascal Flats.

1202
01:02:54,440 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 1: But I love hearing about the back story of this

1203
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: wasn't as easy as it just looked to you guys.

1204
01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 1: You know, it's a great podcast. Who else can we

1205
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:05,880
Speaker 1: look forward to hearing from? Ons? Podcast? We just had

1206
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,320
Speaker 1: Tricia Year would Beth Quaren by the time this airs.

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01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:16,160
Speaker 1: The Kelsey Ballerini and Jason Owen episode Maze we recorded yesterday? Um?

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01:03:17,240 --> 01:03:18,680
Speaker 1: Who else have we had on? That? Sounds like a

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01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: bunch of women? Cody Allen was just on Vincel. Were

1210
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:24,840
Speaker 1: able to talk to him quite a bit about the

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01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:28,720
Speaker 1: Kimburns country music documentary as well, and that was a

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01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 1: great conversation. Um, some influencers coming And I'm right now

1213
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 1: like booking out the rest of this season, so I'm

1214
01:03:36,040 --> 01:03:38,240
Speaker 1: trying to kind of figure out who do we who

1215
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:39,840
Speaker 1: do we really want to have? When are you going

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01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:42,760
Speaker 1: to have one? Nammi on? It's so funny you say that,

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Speaker 1: because as you were talking, I was like, when are

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01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,800
Speaker 1: we going to have them on? You need to Well,

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01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,880
Speaker 1: I mean I think it will happen. I like with

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Speaker 1: Kelsey Kelsey Ballerini. When we announced all our Favorite People,

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01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:54,480
Speaker 1: she was the first person to tweet back, like I

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01:03:54,560 --> 01:03:56,200
Speaker 1: want to be on the show. And it was only

1223
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 1: like now we're in season three that we finally were

1224
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: able to have the conversation. But it was a great

1225
01:04:00,440 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: conversation about where she's headed in her next album cycle. Yeah,

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01:04:04,560 --> 01:04:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, it was really all about her relationship with

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Speaker 1: her manager Jason Owen, who's like I called the devil Whisperer,

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Speaker 1: you know we sign. I thought about that yesterday after

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Speaker 1: the interview, is like, we need to get more like

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Speaker 1: a tag on his car, d v A, w h SPR.

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01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:26,320
Speaker 1: I'm all about the vanity plates, the personal as less place.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, so basically, if you want to check us

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01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:30,960
Speaker 1: out where all our favorite people dot com? Okay, we

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01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: can have We're on all major podcast platforms Spotify, iTunes,

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Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts. I'm gonna got Pandora still around you. I

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Speaker 1: don't know this, okay, So yeah, all our favorite people

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Speaker 1: dot com and check us out. Oh I don't know,

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01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:51,920
Speaker 1: maybe I'll beat that out, might get edited for that.

1239
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,960
Speaker 1: We're on every major podcast and then where where else

1240
01:04:56,000 --> 01:04:59,040
Speaker 1: can people find you guys individually? So you can find

1241
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Speaker 1: me at ash Lee Ker that's e H e Er

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01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:07,000
Speaker 1: on Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, all the places, and then Ashleyker

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01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:12,000
Speaker 1: dot com has a bunch of the dollar Store obviously

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Speaker 1: also need to eat. Yeah right, the Dollar Club, dollar

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01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 1: Store date. Okay. The website is about to get a revamp.

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01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,760
Speaker 1: She's forever revamping your It's hard. It's like, you know,

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01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,919
Speaker 1: it's constantly updating. Though, it's constantly updating, and I'm really

1248
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 1: not great at word press. I'm still trying to let

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01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 1: me there, but I do it every day, you know,

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01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 1: teach me. It's constantly evolving though. He truly is well

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01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 1: and I think too after redoing it last year, I'm like,

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01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 1: this needs the way I want to do it is

1253
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: different vision vision. Okay, So Hunter, where can people find you?

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01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:49,600
Speaker 1: On Instagram? You can find me at Nashville h Kay,

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01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,360
Speaker 1: on Twitter at Hunter Kelly, and on Facebook on my

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01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: public page, I'm just Facebook dot com slash Hunter Kelly

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01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: k E l O Y and please come join me

1258
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,560
Speaker 1: on the Facebook page. Because what happened at my last

1259
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: job was I have a bunch of crazy right wing

1260
01:06:04,920 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 1: jobs following me, and I am trying to remake it

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01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 1: more in my own image because I don't have that. Really,

1262
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:14,600
Speaker 1: it's really weird to have a following you're not connected to. Absolutely,

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01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:18,240
Speaker 1: it's authentic, really weird. It doesn't work, so I feel

1264
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: like I'm constantly trying to be like I don't agree

1265
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:26,160
Speaker 1: with any of you almost anything. So it's really weird.

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01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: So if you can go join the army of of

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01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: trying to remake Facebook dot com slash hunter Kelly in

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Speaker 1: my image. You also have a page for your dogs,

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Speaker 1: your five dogs doxy cam. So do you have five

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Speaker 1: dogs Instagram? U D O X I E C A M.

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Speaker 1: Go follow that. We just post everything with the five dogs,

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Speaker 1: and we're trying our damn just to monetize those babies

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Speaker 1: because some of them need surgery. Um well that when

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Speaker 1: I'm had surgery this year. We've had some close calls.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to talk about publicly. She is a

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Speaker 1: great story. Actually we will tell you offline, but I

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Speaker 1: will say, when you listen to our podcast all our

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Speaker 1: favorite people, if you hear his dog, if you hear

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Speaker 1: snoring in the background at all, that's it's the dog,

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Speaker 1: So it's not you. Billy Jones gets half a sedative

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Speaker 1: for when when we when we do our podcast and

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Speaker 1: he's not up in people's lap. For for car trips,

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Speaker 1: he gets a full sedative because he's a he has

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Speaker 1: a lot of separation anxiety. No wonder you need to

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Speaker 1: monetize that. Medicine's got to be expensive. And then there's

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Speaker 1: four gotsens are upstairs because I didn't even hear him

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Speaker 1: at all when I was perfect angels up there. Thank

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Speaker 1: you guys for being here today. I think we were

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Speaker 1: going to go out with Love can build a Bridge,

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Speaker 1: which I would greatly appreciate. Oh God, wait started for me?

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Speaker 1: Love Can building Bridge? Betweet all lokkay Bil, don't you

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Speaker 1: think it's time? Don't you think it's time? Wow? What

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Speaker 1: a note to end on. Thank you guys, than listen.

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Speaker 1: Should we make a group video next time? Absolutely? But

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Speaker 1: we better get why to do our hair, That's all

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Hunter, good on that. Okay, thank you guys

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Speaker 1: for listening. This is Kelly Henderson and you've been listening

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Speaker 1: to the Velvet's Edge podcast. I truly believe that every

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Speaker 1: one of us has a little velvet and a little edge,

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Speaker 1: so it's so important to remember that to be strong,

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Speaker 1: you must be soft too. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: sharing in those stories with me. You can follow velvet's

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Speaker 1: Edge on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter, as well as velvets

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Speaker 1: edge dot com. If you haven't yet, go to Apple

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Speaker 1: Podcast and subscribe, rate and review this podcast. Join me

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Speaker 1: every Wednesday for more conversations on lifestyle, beauty, and relationships.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, m H.