Speaker 1: Check it down, then down then Thursdays at Temper and
Speaker 1: Beating the Book Podcast Mega Pod Week two of the
Speaker 1: National Football League season. It's Gil Alexander. Uh, this is
Speaker 1: a big deal to me today because we are doing
Speaker 1: our first ever live broadcast I should say from a venue.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's the right way to say it, on site
Speaker 1: along with Mike Palm here at the D in beautiful
Speaker 1: downtown Las Vegas, the lovely d Mike. Thank you for
Speaker 1: the for the hospitality, thank you for having us here.
Speaker 1: We'll do this every week yes when, oh yes, until
Speaker 1: Circle opens, until Circle and then we'll move this show
Speaker 1: two blocks down the street to the to the three
Speaker 1: story sports Book and above the Visa Studio Radio row.
Speaker 1: What We'll do this podcast every Thursday. This is I
Speaker 1: was just saying, this is more than you know. Obviously,
Speaker 1: we love doing Vison, loved doing MSG plus with our
Speaker 1: guest today, who will introduce momentarily. Uh. But I started
Speaker 1: this podcast in my underwear, so to just be doing
Speaker 1: this out in public is so great that it man,
Speaker 1: when we get to Circa, good lord, this is phenomenal.
Speaker 1: Our guest day. By the way, we're missing Todd wishnev
Speaker 1: I heard I heard he's taping the GM Shuffle for
Speaker 1: next week. Is that true? I think that might be true.
Speaker 1: He had a thing that he's doing, and maybe it was,
Speaker 1: in fact the GM Shuffle. Uh Todd. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's trapped under a heavy object. I don't know
Speaker 1: what the story is. But he's not here with us today.
Speaker 1: UH So his antics will be missed this week, but
Speaker 1: we'll get him back next week and for the rest
Speaker 1: of the season. Our guest today is my co host
Speaker 1: on a new show we do at MSG plus. It's
Speaker 1: called Primetime Action. It's Visa's Primetime Action powered by Draft Kings,
Speaker 1: which is seven to ten Eastern for those who have
Speaker 1: MSG plus in New York City and throughout the country.
Speaker 1: Matt Brown, everybody, how you doing, Matt? I'm doing great.
Speaker 1: I am very happy to make my debut here on
Speaker 1: the Mega Pod, and I too cannot wait for Circa
Speaker 1: to open down there. I already have a reservation Mr
Speaker 1: Palm at one of those cabanas out at the UH
Speaker 1: at the Pool to watch the Thursday night game when
Speaker 1: you guys get going out there. So I am very
Speaker 1: very much looking forward to the new venue downtown. Can't
Speaker 1: wait to see it. Did I tell you I have
Speaker 1: Friday Cabanas as as well? Friday Cabana you have the
Speaker 1: second day? He's got that. Wow, that's Carolina and Atlanta
Speaker 1: that night, right, Matt, that's our our opening game. Oh,
Speaker 1: I'm talking about March Madness. That's what he's doing. He's
Speaker 1: doing right when we open. He's doing the first Thursday
Speaker 1: night game, Carolina Atlanta. You are Friday. That's that's the
Speaker 1: hottest ticket. I think the Friday of March Madness is
Speaker 1: going to be the hottest kicking at the pool. And
Speaker 1: we and we figured out today that we probably will
Speaker 1: have college basketball at least there's a plan in place
Speaker 1: for college basketball. Now that the Big Ten and the
Speaker 1: Pack twelve have also decided to play football. We think,
Speaker 1: uh so here's how this goes. I think you know
Speaker 1: the format. We give our three best bets, then we
Speaker 1: do any thoughts on Thursday night football games. Sometimes those
Speaker 1: two things are the same thing, uh, Teaser of the week,
Speaker 1: survivor play and then the final two questions of course,
Speaker 1: which have to do with the big favorite most likely
Speaker 1: to lose out right, followed by the game that no
Speaker 1: one are that anyone here wants a no part of
Speaker 1: based on the spread itself, and we were in a
Speaker 1: bizarro world. You had to bet everything, but there was
Speaker 1: one you just wanted to pass on before we get
Speaker 1: into our best bets. After one week, circu Million and Survivor,
Speaker 1: which neither had an overlay. In the end, you and
Speaker 1: Derrick Stevens, the P. T. Barnum of Las Vegas, the
Speaker 1: both of you use, if I may say, use uh,
Speaker 1: no overlay because quite frankly, there shouldn't be one because
Speaker 1: you have the best contest in town, with the best format.
Speaker 1: Tim Fitzgerald former sports book supervisor at South Point and
Speaker 1: he worked for us for a brief time as well.
Speaker 1: He called this uh at the ginning of August when
Speaker 1: we were still only around three entries, and he said,
Speaker 1: you're not going to have an overlay because the market
Speaker 1: will not allow an overlay, it will not tolerate it.
Speaker 1: And he was right. He was right. So yeah, we
Speaker 1: got there. We got thirty one four eight and the
Speaker 1: circum million two and almost four nine and the Survivor.
Speaker 1: I think the Survivor will really take off next year.
Speaker 1: I am. I had two of those Survivor entries. I
Speaker 1: had the Colts in one of them. As we know
Speaker 1: from this show that's done, thirty percent of all of
Speaker 1: those survivors went out with the Colts alone, of all
Speaker 1: survivor entries in your content went out week one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Colts took a ton of people out, and then uh,
Speaker 1: the Eagles in San Francisco were the next big chunks out.
Speaker 1: So we have we have eight oh five left out
Speaker 1: of thirteen nine after one week. I am more e
Speaker 1: and I are buddy. You and I were talking about this,
Speaker 1: we were doing you know, we all had our football
Speaker 1: bets going on. We all had bets and other sports.
Speaker 1: Our brains kept coming back to our survivor picks. It's
Speaker 1: an interesting little phenomenon. Seventeen people didn't enter at all.
Speaker 1: They forgot to put it in. At seventeen people did
Speaker 1: not submit, which is almost as unforgivable as Todd not
Speaker 1: being available this morning. Almost almost. I would like to
Speaker 1: laugh at those people, and maybe with a one thousand
Speaker 1: dollar entry, I should laugh at them. But you know
Speaker 1: what your boy forgot to do. I forgot to put
Speaker 1: in my last man standing picks, so I I pissed
Speaker 1: away a hundred dollars completely forgot about it. To scale,
Speaker 1: It's not as bad, right, But if you had five five,
Speaker 1: I don't know out of the seventeen you know that
Speaker 1: that's seventeen entries that could have been four people technically,
Speaker 1: so if you had five, that's five thousand dollars down
Speaker 1: the two were some circumillions. Did they fail to enter
Speaker 1: eighteen there may be a correlation or eighteen did not enter.
Speaker 1: I think there's sixty three people had a perfect week
Speaker 1: if I if I remember that, correct went five and
Speaker 1: oh and then another ninety had went four oh and one,
Speaker 1: So good starts there for those folks. MATEO, how do
Speaker 1: you do? I went Bourn one and I had the horrible,
Speaker 1: horrible pick of the Browns plus eight, which was my
Speaker 1: loser on the week. Yeah, that was just a man
Speaker 1: in retrospect. What in the hell was I thinking? But
Speaker 1: outside of that, I went four and one, so started
Speaker 1: off pretty strong here. I actually didn't get in the Survivor.
Speaker 1: I wish I have. I was going to do that
Speaker 1: if if there was some overlay as well, but you
Speaker 1: guys got their way early on that one. So I
Speaker 1: ended up not getting in the Survivor. But guess what,
Speaker 1: I saved myself a thousand dollars because I too would
Speaker 1: have picked the colts, and I would be sitting here
Speaker 1: talking about how after one week I was down a
Speaker 1: thousand dollars. Yeah. By the way, we're looking up at
Speaker 1: the screen because Matt's on the screen for us. What
Speaker 1: a set up here at the d and Bar, Canada,
Speaker 1: and we could we should invite people down here every
Speaker 1: week at ten am to come hang out with us.
Speaker 1: We have a crowd. By the way, Matt, you could
Speaker 1: have been here too, But I didn't know what the
Speaker 1: setup was. So next time. Um, But where was I
Speaker 1: going with this? Oh? I don't even know where I
Speaker 1: was going with it. I lost my train of thought.
Speaker 1: But essentially I can't even get mad at myself. This
Speaker 1: is where I was going with it. Those of us
Speaker 1: who had Indianapolis. There's there's no regret, Like, I can't
Speaker 1: even bust myself or have any self loathing because there
Speaker 1: was no scenario where I was never going to pick them,
Speaker 1: which I think is what Matt was saying to Like,
Speaker 1: So I can't even I can't even get upset with
Speaker 1: myself for losing that edgery, just happy that I had
Speaker 1: two of them. Uh, let's start with our Thursday night
Speaker 1: before our best bets. I actually it's the same for me.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious any thoughts on Thursday night, Matt, We'll
Speaker 1: start with you. Yeah, I mean this is I think
Speaker 1: a pretty pretty good bounceback spot here for this Cleveland
Speaker 1: Browns team. I mean they're actually built pretty good, I
Speaker 1: think to handle the Bengals in this spot. When you
Speaker 1: look and you kind of dig in a little bit more.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is gonna be a rookie quarterback and
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, don't get me wrong, future Hall of Famer
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow, but it is a rookie quarterback on the
Speaker 1: road here on a short week, and you kind of
Speaker 1: dig in a little bit more. And the Browns actually
Speaker 1: were able to generate pressure on Lamar Jackson at the
Speaker 1: fifth highest rate in the NFL last week, and uh,
Speaker 1: let me, it didn't didn't didn't help him all that much,
Speaker 1: but they were able to get to him. It is
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Now we're talking about a rookie quarterback on
Speaker 1: short week here, and I I really do like a
Speaker 1: lot this spot here for this Browns team. I think
Speaker 1: this would have been a full touchdown if the Browns
Speaker 1: had even shown up last week. And so getting six.
Speaker 1: And actually there was a five and a half that
Speaker 1: popped up over on the East coast a little bit
Speaker 1: earlier in the week, if you were able to get
Speaker 1: in on that one as well. But yeah, I love
Speaker 1: me some Browns in this game, and I think this
Speaker 1: is uh where they kind of show Look, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: probably not built to win a championship quite yet, but
Speaker 1: we can beat the teams we're supposed to beat. And uh, Matt,
Speaker 1: Matt said Joe Burrows, the future Hall of Famer, because
Speaker 1: that's his way of telling you. He went out this
Speaker 1: U as well. We used to fly over Matt and
Speaker 1: night and with along with Jay Rudeback in the day
Speaker 1: and day fare over the stadium at l s U.
Speaker 1: And Matt would tell us little things that he used
Speaker 1: to do in the stadium that cannot be discussed here.
Speaker 1: But that's uh, that's how a trench is L s U.
Speaker 1: So your thought is Cleveland or nothing? Or you made
Speaker 1: a bet of Cleveland? No? No, I actually when it
Speaker 1: popped down to five and a half there for a
Speaker 1: short amount of time, I was able to get in
Speaker 1: on them under under the six, and so I was
Speaker 1: able to get in on Cleveland at five and a half.
Speaker 1: It didn't last very long. But fortunately I was just
Speaker 1: happen to be sitting in my computer and saw it happen,
Speaker 1: And so I'm I'm on Cleveland five and a half
Speaker 1: and I actually don't hate it at the six. To
Speaker 1: be perfect honest with you, is that one of your
Speaker 1: three best bets? Would you say of the week or
Speaker 1: that's just another bet, that's just another bed. I have
Speaker 1: three that I like a little bit more. You it's
Speaker 1: gonna be one of my three. Go you go ahead,
Speaker 1: any thoughts tonight. No, I'm not going to copy your
Speaker 1: pick like Todd copied. Todd copied my teaser, and that's
Speaker 1: what he's gonna do, because you want to get any
Speaker 1: of them right. But you know, we we all went
Speaker 1: down with Atlanta there. Um, I don't know, but I'm
Speaker 1: not playing this game. It's not one of my picks,
Speaker 1: and I don't even know if I'm gonna play it
Speaker 1: in real life tonight. Um. If I did, I might
Speaker 1: lean a little bit under the number, just because I
Speaker 1: think that Burrows showed poison week one against San Diego,
Speaker 1: but they stayed in the game because Tyrod was so
Speaker 1: really awful, and well, I just, uh, I I think
Speaker 1: that they will. They will try to, you know, keep
Speaker 1: the training wheels on them a little bit in a
Speaker 1: short passing game. I want to play the Browns, but god,
Speaker 1: they were so bad. I took him off the TV.
Speaker 1: I took them off the TV here at bar Canada.
Speaker 1: The game was so I had to get the Clippers.
Speaker 1: People want to see the Clippers, so I had I
Speaker 1: had to find a TV and that game was just
Speaker 1: so out of hand. I had to take them off
Speaker 1: off so we could put the Clippers up. But I
Speaker 1: can't trust I just can't. I mean, new coach, and
Speaker 1: it's the same old story. I know it was just
Speaker 1: week one, but it's in and and and long. It's
Speaker 1: a pass for uh Mike. For those who don't know,
Speaker 1: not only Derrek Stevens conciliary. What is your official title
Speaker 1: here at presentation? Vice President Operations, which I stated last week,
Speaker 1: but somehow I don't remember this week. But you're also
Speaker 1: the uh the TSAR of Active Content Management, so you
Speaker 1: are responsible for what's on every TV. And you just
Speaker 1: took off the Browns. I don't normally make Thursday night picks.
Speaker 1: I certainly don't normally make them in in the circu
Speaker 1: million contests, nor do I in Survivor just kind of
Speaker 1: steer clear of Thursday games. But today I'm making an exception.
Speaker 1: I am taking the Cleveland Browns minus six consensus. Uh.
Speaker 1: And the primary reason and I'm not disputing anything. The
Speaker 1: Browns were miserable against the Ravens. Getting crushed thirty eight
Speaker 1: to six couldn't have looked worst worse. The Bengals should
Speaker 1: have probably beaten the Chargers, but a offensive p I
Speaker 1: which I think was an offensive p I on A J.
Speaker 1: Green and then uh, Randy Bullock. Uh as Randy's first Yeah,
Speaker 1: Randy Bullock has the calf strain if you believe that
Speaker 1: in Shanks the field goal that could have said it overtime.
Speaker 1: By the way, the calf is fine now interestingly for
Speaker 1: Randy Bullock. Um, but I'm on to Cleveland primarily because
Speaker 1: of the rookie quarterback angle. I'm going to my phone
Speaker 1: here because I want to get this right. I might
Speaker 1: take onf my glasses cronkite style for this, because it's
Speaker 1: uh serious matter. This is from my buddy t A
Speaker 1: at Cleve t A c l e v t A
Speaker 1: on Twitter. It does a who's great follow? Uh. He
Speaker 1: was talking about the Browns in this game since two
Speaker 1: thousand five. And I'm not typically a trends guy either,
Speaker 1: but some trends of matter. Here's this since two thousand five,
Speaker 1: and we were looking for this last night, Matt Matt
Speaker 1: on Primetime Action since two thousand five. Rookie quarterbacks who
Speaker 1: had to play on a short week on a Thursday
Speaker 1: early in the season, talking about the first eight weeks
Speaker 1: of the season one in six straight up, one touchdown,
Speaker 1: ten picks, and an anemic five point seven yards per attempt.
Speaker 1: As t A said, here, yuck taking the Browns minus six.
Speaker 1: I'm with him. I'm take in the Browns minus six.
Speaker 1: That's the primary reason. And if you do a query
Speaker 1: search on this, the only quarterback in that subset to
Speaker 1: win a game like this was the great Deshaun Watson
Speaker 1: in his rookie year for the Texans. Russell Wilson didn't
Speaker 1: get this done in this situation, nor did the quarterbacking
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame of Geno Smith, Sam Donald, Brandon Weed
Speaker 1: and E. J. Manuel or Daniel Jones. We'll see, but
Speaker 1: I'll I'll bet against that. I really do think the
Speaker 1: short week this early is gonna be tougher Joe Burrow.
Speaker 1: So Cleveland is my number two best bet of the week.
Speaker 1: How about look at you? Are you? Are you just
Speaker 1: play Devil's out here? You're not all worried about the injuries?
Speaker 1: I mean, and Joe, who's out, Greedy Williams out, Kevin
Speaker 1: Johnson out, Mack Wilson out, Jacob Phillips out. Then they're
Speaker 1: questionable with Jarvis Landry and Olivier Vernon and Jack Conklin,
Speaker 1: I mean, the only thing that And I'm on your
Speaker 1: side as well with this, But are you at all
Speaker 1: worried about the how shorthanded the Browns are gonna? Sure?
Speaker 1: Like that absolutely enters in my thinking. But here's the thing.
Speaker 1: If Baker Mayfield and the talent that this team supposedly has,
Speaker 1: even even besides those injuries, is what it's supposed to be,
Speaker 1: they have to win this football game, and they have
Speaker 1: to win it going away, seriously on a short week
Speaker 1: like this. By the way, the Cleveland Browns I believe
Speaker 1: will be my survivor pick this week as well. Wow,
Speaker 1: you're gonna use it? Yeah? Interesting, So I'll take the
Speaker 1: Titans was the one that got through, thankfully, after Stephen
Speaker 1: Gotkowski took ten points off the board that he could
Speaker 1: add last week with Shanks. I think I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: Tennessee and now Cleveland this week. You're very strong on
Speaker 1: this game, very strong on this Let's do our best
Speaker 1: bets Matteo number one, number one for me. Seahawks minus
Speaker 1: three and a half versus the Patriots. Here, this is
Speaker 1: to me a classic situation of people still looking at
Speaker 1: this Patriots team and feeling having having these warm fuzzies
Speaker 1: about this Patriots team. And listen, it's a one game sample,
Speaker 1: I get it. But they finally came out and let
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson be Russell Wilson from the beginning of the game.
Speaker 1: I think that they saw I think that they looked
Speaker 1: at this and they saw how much success they were
Speaker 1: able to have by being able to do that. I
Speaker 1: would like to think in the assumption of rational thinking
Speaker 1: in the NFL from a coaching standpoint, I understand is
Speaker 1: death sometimes, but I'm gonna assume rational thinking here, and
Speaker 1: that is the fact that they're gonna go out and
Speaker 1: let Russell Wilson do that yet again against this Patriots
Speaker 1: team that, as we know, just absolutely ravaged by opt outs.
Speaker 1: Really on the defensive side of the ball, as well
Speaker 1: as people leaving town to shorthanded defense. Here at home
Speaker 1: with the Seahawks team, Russell Wilson throwing early and often
Speaker 1: give me the Seahawks minus three and a half in
Speaker 1: this game? Do you permit me to step in line?
Speaker 1: Mr Palm, I got the Seahawks. Is my number one pick?
Speaker 1: Number one number one Browns were my number two. Uh.
Speaker 1: Much of almost mimicking exactly what Matt is saying. That
Speaker 1: was the thing about the Seahawks in prior years. They
Speaker 1: just sort of did what they did for three quarters
Speaker 1: and then they said, all right, let's put the cape
Speaker 1: on Russell Wilson and get us out of here, superman. Uh.
Speaker 1: And he would more often than not. Now it looks
Speaker 1: like because they have heard this this outcry for why
Speaker 1: don't you just do what you do from from the
Speaker 1: beginning of a game, Let's have a game plan that
Speaker 1: doesn't necessitate an escape job. You're right, the assumption of
Speaker 1: rational thinking. Maybe we die with that, Matt. But that's
Speaker 1: what I'm going with the assumption of rational thinking here
Speaker 1: for a guy like Pete Carroll. And by the way,
Speaker 1: it's also with the Patriots. I was against the Patriots
Speaker 1: that was one of my losses last week. That was
Speaker 1: a terrible pick as well on the Dolphins, as it
Speaker 1: turned out. But it's also it's so funny to hear
Speaker 1: people talk about the NFL. They're like, oh, the Dolphins
Speaker 1: are terrible. Oh, look, the Patriots are gonna be as great.
Speaker 1: You know, it's always it's still Bill Belichick. Well, if
Speaker 1: the Dolphins are that sucky, does it immediately mean that
Speaker 1: the Patriots are that great. I'm not going to get
Speaker 1: swayed by one game. I still don't think the Patriots
Speaker 1: are gonna be this good this year, and I don't
Speaker 1: think they showed me that much in Week one. The
Speaker 1: Cam Newton runs all day long strategy is not a
Speaker 1: sustainable offense. I will take the Seahawks minus four. Terrific, terrific,
Speaker 1: thank you. So I'm filling in as the stenographer for
Speaker 1: takeing a judge injury. No, no, no, and I won't no.
Speaker 1: I won't tell whether people are good people. I won't
Speaker 1: tell whether people are good people are bad people, or
Speaker 1: where they're from I or they're blowhards or any of
Speaker 1: that stuff. I'll just with with the dispassion record the place.
Speaker 1: Can we just do this one disclaimer before you get
Speaker 1: your pick. I hope Todd's okay. Is I want to
Speaker 1: have this recorded and and nothing have that own record.
Speaker 1: We probably shouldn't release it until we know he's okay.
Speaker 1: That's probably because it might come off wrong if he
Speaker 1: passed or something that's true. So I'll give you my
Speaker 1: number one pick. I'm gonna take and I thought this
Speaker 1: line was just too high. I'm gonna take Matt Rule
Speaker 1: and his Carolina Panthers plus nine at Tampa Bay. I
Speaker 1: think that the score the Raiders is a little bit
Speaker 1: misleading in this in in in that game, I mean
Speaker 1: a horror a fourth down call at midfield. Uh, when
Speaker 1: you have McCaffrey and Bridgewater not to try some sort
Speaker 1: of play action or get somebody the kid they gave
Speaker 1: the ball to from West Georgia three years in the league,
Speaker 1: sixteen carries for twenty five yards. I mean this intrucial
Speaker 1: fourth and warrucial. You know they got behind in the
Speaker 1: game because they went away from McCaffrey and then they
Speaker 1: went back to him in the third quarter. On that
Speaker 1: eighty five yard drive, he had eleven touches. They went
Speaker 1: up and down the field. That's how they got back
Speaker 1: in the game and actually took the lead. I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm not sold that that father time has to take it.
Speaker 1: Its toll on Brady. I don't know that Arian said
Speaker 1: he's you know, he plays better in practice. I don't
Speaker 1: know why he didn't play so well in the game.
Speaker 1: I think this is Tom Brady. He was horrible the
Speaker 1: last eight weeks of the year in New England. I
Speaker 1: know he has more weapons, but I don't think he's
Speaker 1: their savior down there. I don't think they're a playoff team.
Speaker 1: I know it's not easy going in New Orleans, but
Speaker 1: New Orleans sucks the first week every year. Payton's terrible,
Speaker 1: he is he all they always lose, and here they
Speaker 1: come out with you know, because I was going to
Speaker 1: counter by saying, don't you think the pick six and
Speaker 1: then that mortar kick that the Saints also recovered skews
Speaker 1: that result last week. But that's an interesting point about
Speaker 1: the SAT. So I was I was down. I was
Speaker 1: higher on Tampa Bay. I thought this was a new
Speaker 1: look for him and he finally had some receivers for
Speaker 1: the first time since moss Um. But no, and I
Speaker 1: thought I thought Carolina looked decent and in a loss
Speaker 1: at home. Be it to the Raiders. But this Raiders
Speaker 1: team may be a little underrated as well. I just
Speaker 1: thought this number would come out five and a half
Speaker 1: or six, and when it was over seven, I had
Speaker 1: to take it. And it's going up still eight and
Speaker 1: a half now nine, So I'll take nine. Is my
Speaker 1: number one best bet with the Carolina Panthers. Are you
Speaker 1: taking nine? Let me just check on that, and the
Speaker 1: name of Todd guishnev let me take. Here we go, okay,
Speaker 1: here we go again? Do we give you? There's always
Speaker 1: and a half. There's always one of them still left
Speaker 1: on the show. I don't know. Was it nine or
Speaker 1: eight and a half? Mikey, what's your sense, Agil, what's
Speaker 1: I'm going to say it's eight and a half. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'll take it. It's not gonna it's
Speaker 1: not gonna sway me. Let me let me make sure
Speaker 1: that I'm right there. If Todd later comes back and
Speaker 1: says it's nine, I think the record has to be corrected.
Speaker 1: You know what, Go with the nine, thank you, Go
Speaker 1: with the nine. Thank you. It's it's teetering alright. Number two.
Speaker 1: I've already given my number two, which is the Browns, Matt,
Speaker 1: I am going to be taking the New York Football
Speaker 1: Giants getting five and a half points here at the Bears.
Speaker 1: The Bears played one good quarter of football. I went
Speaker 1: back and Gil, you and I were on air whenever
Speaker 1: the Giants were playing, and we you get to see
Speaker 1: about six sevent of the game. We're still having to
Speaker 1: do programming. It's kind of hard to see every single
Speaker 1: play that goes on. So I did go back and
Speaker 1: rewatch that game, and it was a couple of pretty
Speaker 1: just unfortunate plays that that really kind of put this
Speaker 1: Giant's team in a position to lose as badly as
Speaker 1: they did. And we're talking against one of the very
Speaker 1: elite defenses, and all of the NFL everybody was talking
Speaker 1: about how good the Steelers defense was going to be.
Speaker 1: They didn't lose anybody from last year where they were
Speaker 1: one of the elite defenses. And I was even talking
Speaker 1: about that heading into that game, that I thought that
Speaker 1: defense was going to get the better of the New
Speaker 1: York Giants. It's well income the Bears, and yeah they
Speaker 1: do have Khalil Mack. I do understand that, but it's
Speaker 1: not it is not as complete a unit at all
Speaker 1: as what you're getting in the Pittsburgh Steelers, and I
Speaker 1: think that Daniel Jones and them kind of showed what
Speaker 1: they can do without their best player being a factor
Speaker 1: at all at all in that game. Se Kwon Barkley
Speaker 1: completely neutralized in that game. That is not gonna happen
Speaker 1: in this game. He is going to be cut loosey,
Speaker 1: is going to be able to get some yardage on
Speaker 1: the ground, and Daniel Jones is gonna be able to
Speaker 1: move the ball through the air as well. I would
Speaker 1: love to have gotten the six where this thing opened.
Speaker 1: I did not, But even at five and a half here,
Speaker 1: I feel pretty confident. Would not shock me if when
Speaker 1: this game is over, if the Giants actually won this
Speaker 1: thing outright, but getting more than a field goal here
Speaker 1: with this Giants team against the Bears team that played
Speaker 1: one good quarter, that's all there is to it. And
Speaker 1: a little bit of unfortunate bad luck there on the
Speaker 1: Giant side that got them as battle loss as they got.
Speaker 1: Give me the Giants and five and a half Giants
Speaker 1: supposed five and a half. I don't hate it. I
Speaker 1: know what Mett's talking about. By the way, I will
Speaker 1: I will go ahead and say, with all the coaching
Speaker 1: gaps last week, Matt Patrician's decision to kick a fifty
Speaker 1: five yard or with under five minutes left up ten
Speaker 1: was the worst of the worst from a win probability standpoint.
Speaker 1: That buoyed the Bears to victory. Good for Mr. R
Speaker 1: Bisky down the stretch in that game about the Giants,
Speaker 1: and we were watching this again on Primetime Action, but
Speaker 1: I said this, uh this morning on a Numbers game
Speaker 1: at Visa that do you can say this about a
Speaker 1: lot of NFL games, but the way that the average
Speaker 1: fan processes those games that oh, Pittsburgh destroyed them, But
Speaker 1: really the full grub points in that game were twice
Speaker 1: to to to plays. The t J. Watt pick when
Speaker 1: the Giants were up seven in the second quarter just
Speaker 1: a Giant's kind of play where Daniel Jones throws it
Speaker 1: into the midst of t J. Watt at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I get it, it happened. But if that
Speaker 1: and the end of that long drive in the third
Speaker 1: quarter where the Giants had this drive that was almost
Speaker 1: nine minutes long, was almost nine yards, took up most
Speaker 1: of the third quarter, and it's the play where dupre hits,
Speaker 1: Daniel goes up in the air and Cameron Heyward grabs
Speaker 1: it at the goal line. Those are two plays. That's
Speaker 1: the entire game. Those two plays don't happen, and I
Speaker 1: get it. They happened, but the margin is not what
Speaker 1: it appears to be in the final score is what
Speaker 1: I'm getting in. So I totally totally appreciate that pick.
Speaker 1: Not one of mine, but I appreciate. Well, it's my
Speaker 1: number three best bet, so I'll skip to and go
Speaker 1: to three. I like the Giants in this spot. Um
Speaker 1: you know that drive that was what forty two plays
Speaker 1: and eighteen minutes. I mean, the problem is that they
Speaker 1: need to be able to run the ball at the
Speaker 1: two yard line. I mean, I know Barkley is not
Speaker 1: in between the tackles back, but you have to be.
Speaker 1: You can't roll him out all the way to his
Speaker 1: left on second and go from the two. The way
Speaker 1: they converted all those third downs in the fourth down
Speaker 1: on that drive against that defense was very impressive to me,
Speaker 1: and I thought, if you had Pittsburgh, it was a
Speaker 1: really fortunate cover. I thought the Giants were the better
Speaker 1: side there. I like him to win this game. I've
Speaker 1: got some money line action on them, Matt. I think
Speaker 1: the Bears come out of that game, and you know
Speaker 1: the ineptitude of Detroit in the fourth core or the
Speaker 1: decisions they made the defense they decided to play the offense.
Speaker 1: I mean, with two and a half minutes of your
Speaker 1: up three and he gets in an information runs into
Speaker 1: the middle. I mean, incredible. They did it last year
Speaker 1: against the Cardinals to the Lions are horrific with a
Speaker 1: lead in the fourth quarters. So I'm still I'm not
Speaker 1: sold at all on this Bears team. I don't think
Speaker 1: they're gonna be able to run the ball on Sunday,
Speaker 1: and I like the Giants to win. And I'll take
Speaker 1: the five and a half as well. Uh Sa Kwan
Speaker 1: Barkley of that game, Just for a clarification, fifteen carries
Speaker 1: for six yards and one of those carries were for
Speaker 1: was for seven. I mean, Pittsburgh's defense was everything that
Speaker 1: it was blown up to be. And as far as
Speaker 1: that drive, I want to get the exact number on
Speaker 1: this in case anybody wants to score at home. But
Speaker 1: it was just fewer than nine minutes long. I'll effort that.
Speaker 1: But just if you were than nine minutes long, um
Speaker 1: eighteen plays and uh or I believe nineteen plays as
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, unbelievable. And then it ends with
Speaker 1: the Cameron Heyward pick after the Bud Dupree hitting of
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones pick number three, man as my debut you here, Gil,
Speaker 1: I've got to I need some clarification. Am I able
Speaker 1: to pick a total? Or do you guys only pick sides?
Speaker 1: Last week? I had two totals, all right, so in
Speaker 1: the clubhouse and one and one? Then my number three
Speaker 1: here is the under in the Niners and Jets game.
Speaker 1: I think that you're probably gonna be getting forty three. Now,
Speaker 1: I was able to pull the trigger on this at
Speaker 1: forty three and a half, but I'll take the consensus
Speaker 1: at forty three and feel pretty good about it. When
Speaker 1: you look at this receiver situation for the forty Niners,
Speaker 1: it is really really bad right now. And now George Kittle,
Speaker 1: they're saying he's not going to practice all week long
Speaker 1: with the hopes that he is able to get out there.
Speaker 1: So now you have absolutely nobody for Jimmy Garoppolo to
Speaker 1: throw the ball to for this forty Niners team. And
Speaker 1: then you look at the Jets on the other side
Speaker 1: and We basically saw what this Jets offense is made
Speaker 1: out of last week, and it is just not built
Speaker 1: to put up very many points at all. And so
Speaker 1: uh forty three. I understand that this thing has been falling.
Speaker 1: I completely understand why this thing has been falling. So
Speaker 1: even not getting the best of the number here, I
Speaker 1: still like the under. I do not think either one
Speaker 1: of these offenses is in a position where they're gonna
Speaker 1: be able to put up any points here. So give
Speaker 1: me the under on the Niners and the Jets under Niners.
Speaker 1: Jets Matt Brown's third pick of the week, third best
Speaker 1: bet that is uh and the official number is uh. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Let's take a look at this thing has been This
Speaker 1: thing was falling since this morning. Man, holy mackerel. Two,
Speaker 1: oh boy, oh boy, you can tell you how about it.
Speaker 1: Let's let's take some East coast numbers here, Gil, because
Speaker 1: the the providing line on the prevailing numbers forty two
Speaker 1: and a half over on the East coast. So give
Speaker 1: me the half, give me the hook. See the one
Speaker 1: of us might be looking in far away places. That
Speaker 1: would be me. We live this show in reality, Gil,
Speaker 1: we did. We don't you know it's your show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: nobody's going to tell you what to do with this one.
Speaker 1: We're gonna go with forty two at least Mike Bob
Speaker 1: never missing a moment. Push. Why don't you bet the
Speaker 1: exact total to be forty to find that one out there?
Speaker 1: We'll give that one three. Okay, my number three is
Speaker 1: actually my number two, and it's a total. I like
Speaker 1: the the Monday Night game over the forty nine and
Speaker 1: a half with the the the the debut debut of
Speaker 1: the Big Al here in Las Vegas, with the Saints
Speaker 1: coming into town. Shame we can't be there. Shame, we
Speaker 1: can't be there. Um yeah, I like the way both
Speaker 1: of these offenses played last week. Um, let's face it.
Speaker 1: The Raiders are susceptible to a passing game, and Kamar
Speaker 1: was terrific out of the backfield as well for the Saints.
Speaker 1: Um this running back, this second year running back, Jones,
Speaker 1: Jacobe Jones is at his name, Jones incredible, Got Josh
Speaker 1: Josh Tea. I don't know Josh Josh Jacobs. Now we
Speaker 1: don't know anything. Now we got there. Eventually, this kid,
Speaker 1: Mitch Moss met him to win the rushing title like
Speaker 1: fifteen to one, as if I like that Martin Napole
Speaker 1: Napoleon Kaufman. Now, uh, this kid is a great runner.
Speaker 1: I I watched that, dude. I thought that was the
Speaker 1: best game of the weekend, actually the Raider game. And
Speaker 1: I'm not a Raiders fan, but I thought that was
Speaker 1: a terrific game with Carolina. I like that. I may
Speaker 1: even play in real life the first half over here
Speaker 1: because Gruden is just so good scripting those first set
Speaker 1: of plays, like Walsh us to be um. I think
Speaker 1: this Raiders team is gonna score a lot of points
Speaker 1: this year. I like this offense they got. They got
Speaker 1: Titans that can move the sticks on third down. But
Speaker 1: this Chash Jacob's kid is a beast. This this kid
Speaker 1: is gonna be a good running back for a long time,
Speaker 1: good in the past. Catching. Yeah, it's it's very impressive.
Speaker 1: So I actually thought this number would be fifty fifty
Speaker 1: and a half fifty one, and it may get there
Speaker 1: with the public by Monday night. It I'm I'm an
Speaker 1: Unders player in real life, and I'm tending to think
Speaker 1: that these overs are the way to go. I know
Speaker 1: what did they win? The Overs fit one by three
Speaker 1: or four games above the Unders this week? I think
Speaker 1: they were nine and five going into going into to
Speaker 1: Monday or something like that. Look at there's no crowd
Speaker 1: noise on third and Long for these visiting teams. I
Speaker 1: think that has to be a factor. It also has
Speaker 1: to be a factor that they can get off the
Speaker 1: Snaptow account, not just false starts, but getting off the
Speaker 1: ball and not getting beat by the defense they fire
Speaker 1: at one time. I think that's a big factor here.
Speaker 1: You know, in the NFL, third and seventh, third and
Speaker 1: eight and longer, everybody's on their feet when the when
Speaker 1: the the visiting team has the ball, So I think
Speaker 1: that games will generally be overs. I'm not disagreeing with
Speaker 1: your under Matt on that on the Jets game, but
Speaker 1: let's go over. The total is my second best bet?
Speaker 1: I have forty nine and a half? Is that correct? Yes?
Speaker 1: And a half? Um my number three, Call me square,
Speaker 1: Call me square, but I'm going with the Kansas City
Speaker 1: Omaha chiefs. Now here's the deal on Guessing Lines on Monday.
Speaker 1: For those who are loyal listeners podcast, and thank you
Speaker 1: so much over the years for being that. Christie and
Speaker 1: I did the show for week to first show of
Speaker 1: Guessing Lines. This year, we don't do it before week one.
Speaker 1: We do before we too. And the lines that I
Speaker 1: thought were the most off are the ones that I
Speaker 1: guessed and turned out to be the most off. One
Speaker 1: of them was the Atlanta Falcons. I guessed four and
Speaker 1: a half at the time Chrissie said, I like your
Speaker 1: line better, it was six and a half. Came to
Speaker 1: my four and a half. Uh. The other one was
Speaker 1: the Vikings, which I couldn't believe. They were dogs against
Speaker 1: the Colts, but they have so many problems in the
Speaker 1: secondary that I'm not I I steered clear, didn't want
Speaker 1: any part of that. The other one was the Dolphins,
Speaker 1: who I think are catching too much point, too many
Speaker 1: points against the Bills. But I'll let the Dolphins show
Speaker 1: me a little something before I jumped back into that pool.
Speaker 1: The Chiefs giving eight and a half at the l
Speaker 1: A Chargers, I don't feel in the Chiefs victory against
Speaker 1: the Texans on the opening Thursday night that they opened
Speaker 1: the playbook at all. There was only one downfield pass
Speaker 1: from Patrick Mahomes that was the one that was called
Speaker 1: back to DeMarcus Robinson the touchdown early in that game.
Speaker 1: I just think they they just absolutely coasted their way
Speaker 1: through that win. Um, I don't think they showed anything.
Speaker 1: Clyde Edwards a lair revelation as a bell cow. They're
Speaker 1: going up against the charge of the team that probably
Speaker 1: should have lost, a rookie quarterback Joe Burrow and the
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals. Here's the thing with the Chargers. There was
Speaker 1: nothing about that game, nothing from Torod Taylor on down.
Speaker 1: Joshua Kelly had nice performance as a rookie running back,
Speaker 1: but there was nothing about them that scares you. And
Speaker 1: they've got Anthony Lynn as their coach. I know that
Speaker 1: there could be a situation here where it could get
Speaker 1: back door because Andy Reid's not caring about our bets.
Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna overthink this too much. Give me
Speaker 1: the Chiefs, lay the points and tip of the cap
Speaker 1: to the charges that they can prove me wrong. Some
Speaker 1: bets you just have to be willing to lose. I'll
Speaker 1: take the Chiefs, I'll give the points. There's some I
Speaker 1: think Paul Howard tweeted it. Paul Howard, one of the
Speaker 1: unsung stars of the VISA Network, doesn't get enough praise.
Speaker 1: Not really EEFs in Division games. There was some ridiculous
Speaker 1: stat in the last twenty seven division games that they're
Speaker 1: like twenty five and two against the spread. It was
Speaker 1: he tweeted out about how well they do against their
Speaker 1: division opponents. So I can't hate that player. I looked
Speaker 1: at that Vikings game too. Yeah, it was. It was
Speaker 1: weird at first, but they have nobody playing it. There
Speaker 1: was sneaks. They really are. That's what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: LOMBARTI yesterday, it's Michael Lombardi was kind enough to join
Speaker 1: my show yesterday. I don't know if you know that
Speaker 1: he was. It was. It was a very a somber, somber,
Speaker 1: somber segments, but somber. It was somber, but but informative.
Speaker 1: It's nonetheless informative. Where are we teasers of the week?
Speaker 1: Is that where we are? We all got me? What
Speaker 1: did I say last week on this show? I said,
Speaker 1: we got long? I said, I said, we're all on
Speaker 1: the falcons. You know what that means, boys and girls,
Speaker 1: We all got crushed. Man, give us, give us your
Speaker 1: factor the well. Back to the well, and I'm going
Speaker 1: right to the game you just talked about. And if
Speaker 1: you guys, if this is not part of your teaser,
Speaker 1: I mean that's going on here. Get that Chiefs. Get
Speaker 1: get the Chiefs down from eight and a half to
Speaker 1: two and a half. Get that thing under a field
Speaker 1: goal against this Chargers team that did not show me
Speaker 1: absolutely anything against this Bengals. The Bengals actually graded out
Speaker 1: it's like the seventh best defense on the week last
Speaker 1: week according to for Football Focus against this Chargers team.
Speaker 1: Not Able to push the ball at all, not able
Speaker 1: to get anything going on the ground at all. This
Speaker 1: Chiefs team, we know, can turn it on against anyone.
Speaker 1: It does not matter that they are playing on you know,
Speaker 1: on the road. It's probably actually a bad thing for
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. It probably would have been majority Chiefs fans
Speaker 1: over there in l A anyway. So uh, give me
Speaker 1: the Chiefs here under a field goal, and then I'm
Speaker 1: gonna pair this thing up with the Ravens. Uh down
Speaker 1: to one. So I will take the Ravens from seven
Speaker 1: to one. And we saw what the Chiefs were able
Speaker 1: to do to this uh, we we saw it with
Speaker 1: the Chiefs were able to do. We're able to do
Speaker 1: on the ground against this Texans defense. And boy, oh boy, gil,
Speaker 1: what do the Ravens do? Very well? They run the
Speaker 1: football very very well. I think they're gonna be able
Speaker 1: to do whatever they want to against this Texans team
Speaker 1: on the ground here. So if I can take that
Speaker 1: thing off of the touchdown and get it down to one,
Speaker 1: I'll do that. So give me Chiefs and Ravens. You
Speaker 1: know what's funny about that? When you said ravens first
Speaker 1: of all, two things happened one And I said this
Speaker 1: on on the Morning Show as well. I'm starting to
Speaker 1: become like Keith Morrison from from all those dateline NBC shows.
Speaker 1: He's the guy with the gray hair who every time, no,
Speaker 1: not Dayline NBC, but almost crime shows. Maybe some of
Speaker 1: them are dayline where when when the story gets more
Speaker 1: maccabre and and more grizzly, he goes, oh really, then
Speaker 1: white hair. That guy Bill Hayter did a great piece
Speaker 1: on it on SNL. But so when you said the Ravens,
Speaker 1: I reacted like that, and Mikey and I looked at
Speaker 1: each other. We're like, oh, I don't know about that one.
Speaker 1: You we we we sat here in judgment, didn't we?
Speaker 1: What do you like? Not? That's not long? Is should enough?
Speaker 1: With the road? The road? Favorite? Uh? Of course you.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you'll have the Chiefs down to two and
Speaker 1: a half as well. Yes, well, I'm I'm debating on
Speaker 1: taking the Titans down to two and a half was
Speaker 1: one of my choices. Yeah, I'm I'm debating a little
Speaker 1: bit there, or or if I wanted, well, what do
Speaker 1: you get the Packers at a straight six? Straight six? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's really where I'm at. Either either the Packers down
Speaker 1: to a pick, I'm gonna take that. I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the Titans down to two and a half. Uh in
Speaker 1: this game against UH, I don't think Gardner Minshew is
Speaker 1: gonna complete his passes nineteen. Come on, the Jaguars cannot
Speaker 1: be happy with that performance, right, Like, I know they're
Speaker 1: supposed to be tanking for Trevor, but like if he
Speaker 1: goes if you're the owner of the Jaguars and you're
Speaker 1: tanking for Trevor, he goes nineteen for twenty, aren't you
Speaker 1: secretly like, oh, I'm not a Minshew guy, But yeah,
Speaker 1: you gotta look at the look at the performance. Um,
Speaker 1: I mean, Gail, I'll tell you I will. The other one,
Speaker 1: it was basically interchangeable with the Steelers as well. So
Speaker 1: the Steelers at home against the against the Broncos, where
Speaker 1: you do take that seven and a half down to
Speaker 1: point and a half. It was basically interchangeable. Either one
Speaker 1: of those chief chis stas is mine. I like that
Speaker 1: Steelers defense against what is not technically a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: but might as well be a rookie quarterback. And Drew
Speaker 1: Lock who, despite seeming to be comfortable more comfortable in
Speaker 1: that offense that I gave him credit for, perhaps still
Speaker 1: doesn't throw the ball down field and scaring anyone. So
Speaker 1: Jerry Judy didn't help him out. That Judy, that's the point,
Speaker 1: Not Fangio Foley, not Fanny peck Foley. Judy catches the ball,
Speaker 1: they win that game. Slant pattern lay right off, his
Speaker 1: cha action stops the class over. Yeah, I agree, Jerry Judy,
Speaker 1: rookie white out, Um, he'll be fine. So it was
Speaker 1: so Kansas City, Baltimore, Kansas City, Tennessee, Kansas City, Pittsburgh.
Speaker 1: You know what that means, boys and girls didn't work
Speaker 1: out last week for everybody having Atlanta? Alright, final two questions?
Speaker 1: Are we already there? Did miss something without without Todd?
Speaker 1: About taking Todd and taking Brady out? I mean, you
Speaker 1: cut the time in am Brady's answer. Brady starts an
Speaker 1: answer messed up. Seriously, Brady gives very very detailed answer.
Speaker 1: He does and and and he doesn't change tones either,
Speaker 1: So maybe that makes seems longer, but this is terrible.
Speaker 1: Four of us to talk about the previous guests for
Speaker 1: them for the week gone by. Brady is our leadoff
Speaker 1: guy year after year. People. I saw the Twitter how
Speaker 1: everybody was so happy he's still the leader. Your your
Speaker 1: fans that have been following all ten seasons or eight seasons,
Speaker 1: they were so happy you kept the tradition of Brady
Speaker 1: party like it's two thousand eleven. Cannon, Oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: has won a super contest. Really yeah, by the way,
Speaker 1: they have the same number of entries this year as
Speaker 1: they did when he wanted I want to say, I
Speaker 1: want to oh yes, by the way, what did you
Speaker 1: say about that that contest the other day on the radio?
Speaker 1: Would you say, Well, look, I mean, PAULI says their
Speaker 1: new sheriff in town, and you know, the group circle
Speaker 1: Jerk is a little too much around here for me
Speaker 1: that we got there. But but but listen, I mean,
Speaker 1: we took you in what four and a half million
Speaker 1: dollars we're paying out four and a half million. At
Speaker 1: the end of the day, Derek's got a TV bill
Speaker 1: for seventy five thousand for all the advertising we did.
Speaker 1: And j and John Murray are rolling around in the
Speaker 1: back room at the West Gate. They raked off the people,
Speaker 1: so who they're laughing all the way to the bank.
Speaker 1: That's one way to put it. That's one way to
Speaker 1: put it. Uh. Let me just say this to the
Speaker 1: to the loyal beating the book audience and those who
Speaker 1: go back all the way to Benny dork days too.
Speaker 1: What would you say if I invited a son as
Speaker 1: a guest on this podcast. I want to hear the
Speaker 1: clamoring for that. I'm open to it. Um actually would
Speaker 1: actually embrace that, would love it. Final two questions. We've
Speaker 1: had these final two questions each and every week of
Speaker 1: this show Forbids Inception. The first of which is which
Speaker 1: of the big favorites do you believe is the most
Speaker 1: likely to lose outright? And usually it's six and a
Speaker 1: half point favorite or greater. I will not include Well,
Speaker 1: let's let's include them tonight, just to make it interesting.
Speaker 1: Cleveland six point favorites hosting the Cincinnati Bungles on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: Tennessee nine point favorites against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Yeah, let's
Speaker 1: call it consensus. Uh. Moving down, Pittsburgh seven point favorites
Speaker 1: hosting the Denver Broncos. Since I included six above, all
Speaker 1: include six here. Green Bay six point favorites hosting the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions, Tampa Bay eight and a half point favorites
Speaker 1: hosting the Carolina Panthers, Miami No Buffalo six point favorites,
Speaker 1: another five and a half we can't include them. Sorry
Speaker 1: if that's out. Uh. San Francisco seven point favorites against
Speaker 1: the Jets. Arizona six and a half point favorites against
Speaker 1: this the Skins calling the Washington football team people, Baltimore
Speaker 1: seven point favorites against the Texans. Man, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of these. Kansas City eight and a half against the Chargers.
Speaker 1: And then, since we included the six is Noland's six
Speaker 1: point favorites against Vegas on Monday night. Matt, Of all
Speaker 1: of those, which is the big favorite most likely to
Speaker 1: get bounced out? Right? I think it's the Saints. Um.
Speaker 1: If you look at this, uh, they're gonna likely be
Speaker 1: without Michael Thomas. So You're gonna have to have Emmanuel
Speaker 1: Sanders be your alpha when it comes to the passing game,
Speaker 1: the guy that just brought in and a guy that
Speaker 1: again in a weird season with COVID here, no preseason games,
Speaker 1: not all this, the full trading camp, everything like that.
Speaker 1: So I don't know how long it's going to be.
Speaker 1: You could see it was all disjointed with him with
Speaker 1: that offense last week. It was anyway not a real
Speaker 1: factor at all, and so now he's gonna have to
Speaker 1: step in and be the number one here in week two.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take a few more weeks for
Speaker 1: him to really get worked into this offense. And so, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, look, the Saints if if the Raiders are
Speaker 1: able to bottle up Alvin Kamara and force Drew Brees
Speaker 1: to have to get it done through the air with
Speaker 1: you know, Jared Cook and and Emmanuel Sanders here, which
Speaker 1: is essentially how this is gonna have to go. I
Speaker 1: think the Raiders have a really, really good chance of
Speaker 1: winning this thing outright, So it would be the Saints
Speaker 1: for me going down on their road trip out here
Speaker 1: to Las Vegas. Mikey, you have an update in addition
Speaker 1: to your pick so Todd. Todd has finally gotten back
Speaker 1: to us. Okay, and I said where are you? Which
Speaker 1: I texted at ten sixteen. You know, we waited twenty
Speaker 1: minutes to start the taping of the show six Team Pacific.
Speaker 1: Todd says, huh, just finished playing tennis. We knew it.
Speaker 1: Ask you this. You do a show at a tent
Speaker 1: and Pacific for an entire year and then you say,
Speaker 1: last week, Hey Todd, just this one time, Mike, he's
Speaker 1: got a thing. We gotta do it at noon, and
Speaker 1: then he just completely he'll blame me. He'll blame me totally.
Speaker 1: He'll and he'll be upset that we didn't wait perpetuity
Speaker 1: for the guy. But um, that's right, Yeah, I gotta
Speaker 1: get I. I don't know that any of these teams
Speaker 1: are gonna lose. I don't either. You know what I
Speaker 1: was like, who made up this question? Force to pick one? Geez?
Speaker 1: This is really bad? It is hell. It's the it's
Speaker 1: the it's the forty niners. It's the Jets beating the
Speaker 1: forty ye Are you sure maybe that was one of
Speaker 1: them that I considered the forty Niners that bad? Matt?
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, there's just they're just so beat
Speaker 1: up right now. Offensive line troubles as well. I don't
Speaker 1: like the Jets, just saying I don't think any of
Speaker 1: these teams are necessarily gonna lose, but um, you look
Speaker 1: at this one and they're they're they're really really beat
Speaker 1: up at the wide receiver position. A ship moving the
Speaker 1: ball to the air is gonna be a problem. I mean,
Speaker 1: you kind of look back at that those stats as well,
Speaker 1: Gil Whenever you look at the forty Niners, what they
Speaker 1: were able to do last week was also buoyed by
Speaker 1: that seventies six yard reception to Raheem Mostert. It wasn't
Speaker 1: even to a receiver, it was to a back where
Speaker 1: they were able to get like so the big bulk
Speaker 1: of the yardage that Jimmy Garoppolo was able to get
Speaker 1: was even on just a short pass to the running
Speaker 1: back and everything was done after the catch. And so
Speaker 1: I don't really like the Jets at all by any
Speaker 1: stressing imagination. But I mean, this forty Niners team is
Speaker 1: is really beat up right here early in the season.
Speaker 1: So of of a lot of these teams, I think
Speaker 1: they're they're pretty vulnerable as well. New Orleans or San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Then for you, officially, I'm gonna still I'm gonna still
Speaker 1: take the problem is, I don't know the Michael Thomas
Speaker 1: injury situation, so I guess then, yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: don't Yeah, they said he's gonna, you know, try to play.
Speaker 1: You know this, I'll go ahead and take the forty
Speaker 1: Niners then, because I don't know that Michael Thomas is
Speaker 1: gonna try to play, so I'll say the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: I'm I have one that might surprise you. Who you going? Finally,
Speaker 1: I mean, let me, I'm gonna go against Todd Wish
Speaker 1: and have his favorite quarterback. Um who that is? Uh
Speaker 1: Lamar Murray as he calls him on the number of
Speaker 1: the he said in the racial pandemic, he just calls
Speaker 1: him all the mar Murray. I didn't a pattern. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm I let's go with with Ron Rivera and the
Speaker 1: Redskins to upset to upset the Cardinals. But bold, I
Speaker 1: didn't need to interrupt you. I don't know. Maybe maybe
Speaker 1: this is a whole different era here for the one.
Speaker 1: I mean, they showed a lot of resilience coming off
Speaker 1: the deck down seventeen nothing, and I thought, but you know,
Speaker 1: the forty Niners really should have won that game last week,
Speaker 1: even though Arizona was able to overcome in the second half.
Speaker 1: I don't like any of these I gotta be honest
Speaker 1: with you. I wouldn't bet on any of these teams
Speaker 1: on the money line. But if I so, I have
Speaker 1: to give one, I'm gonna give the Washington football team. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the Skins. For I think the Skins are
Speaker 1: exactly who the who we thought they were. Great front seven,
Speaker 1: Young was great. He's gonna be the defensive rookie of
Speaker 1: the year. But I said all offseason, if the Skins
Speaker 1: can hold their opponent to seventeen points, which ended up
Speaker 1: being exactly what they held the Eagles to even though
Speaker 1: they fell seventeen to nothing, fell down seventy nothing, then
Speaker 1: maybe they can win football games. But there's nothing about
Speaker 1: their offense, the Skins offense, the Washing Football teams offense,
Speaker 1: that leads you to believe that they're going to win
Speaker 1: a whole bunch. Yeah. The only yeah, the only problem
Speaker 1: I have with that one, guys, is just that, so
Speaker 1: the Cardinals are playing at such a breakneck pace, right,
Speaker 1: I mean, they played at the fifth highest situation neutral
Speaker 1: rate last week and getting plays off so fast and
Speaker 1: getting up there and getting going. And as you mentioned, Gil,
Speaker 1: how this washing team is gonna go is how that
Speaker 1: defensive line creates pressure because the offense is not gonna
Speaker 1: get it done. It's gonna be on the defense. And
Speaker 1: can they keep up with this Arizona Cardinals team as
Speaker 1: they come out and running running place as fast as
Speaker 1: they can line up with four wides every single time,
Speaker 1: with all these different options for Kyler Murray and then
Speaker 1: even when you do pressure him, he has the ability
Speaker 1: to escape this and get and get stuff done on
Speaker 1: on the feet. That's my only kind of issue, uh there,
Speaker 1: because I think the Cardinals, just with the pace by
Speaker 1: the time the second half rolls around, gonna be tough
Speaker 1: on this defense to just continually create havoc on that
Speaker 1: and then I think that might be the point where
Speaker 1: the Cardinals kind of take over. Hey, can I asked
Speaker 1: a triven Jason back behind the scenes driven priduson number seven, Jason,
Speaker 1: can we see if we can hook up? Can we
Speaker 1: hook up Todd on on sky for the last question
Speaker 1: for the final question and then just include him here
Speaker 1: because he's crying by text. He's very upset right, he said,
Speaker 1: nobody told me what time we were doing the show.
Speaker 1: When you don't have a job, you have no structure
Speaker 1: to your life. You need some more structure. Toddler's need structure. Uh.
Speaker 1: The my pick, by the way, green Bay, Okay, I
Speaker 1: actually think that. Look, there's nothing you can say bad
Speaker 1: about green Bay. Four touchdowns, no picks and just a
Speaker 1: just a mess of yards from Aaron Rodgers. Uh last
Speaker 1: week against the Vikings. But I mentioned that about the
Speaker 1: Vikings secondary that you're talking about. Just this the secondary
Speaker 1: with first of all, no pass rush, right, Daniel Hunter. Uh.
Speaker 1: Everson Griffin gone to Dallas and god Way didn't give
Speaker 1: them anything. He was a non factor. And with green
Speaker 1: Bay last week Aaron Rodgers, who by the way, was
Speaker 1: twenty excuse me, thirty two or forty four for three
Speaker 1: sixty four pardon me? Four touchdowns, no picks, He was
Speaker 1: never sacked, first full game he played anywhere in Minnesota
Speaker 1: without ever being sacked, five total yards of offense forty
Speaker 1: one minutes and sixteen seconds time in possession. But green
Speaker 1: Bay had its way with the Minnesota defense that was
Speaker 1: renovated because they paid so much to Kirk Cousins. They
Speaker 1: gave so much to Dalvin Cook. So you had Mike
Speaker 1: Hughes and Holton Hill as your top two cornerbacks last week,
Speaker 1: with third round draft pick Cameron Danceler saying plenty of
Speaker 1: action as well. All twenty three or younger Um No
Speaker 1: Xavier Rhodes, no Trey Wayne's, no Mackenzie Alexander. They all
Speaker 1: left in the off season. So I don't know if
Speaker 1: we can say green Bay is going to be this
Speaker 1: great every single week, and it would be just like Detroit,
Speaker 1: who should have killed Chicago last week, to all of
Speaker 1: a sudden have a completely different result against the Packers.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna say the Packers of the big favorites
Speaker 1: most likely to lose out right, not saying it's gonna happen,
Speaker 1: but I could. I would not be surprised in the
Speaker 1: least bit division. I was super high on the Lions
Speaker 1: coming into this season, Like I I loved everything about them.
Speaker 1: Them not having Gola Day last week as well was
Speaker 1: it was a pretty big thing. It looks like he
Speaker 1: might be back this week as well, so definitely uptick
Speaker 1: for that to have that guy out there, so I
Speaker 1: I can definitely see it. Definitely, do we have Todd
Speaker 1: wish have available to us guys yet. Know anything, He's
Speaker 1: not answering. He's still not hit soring. We try to
Speaker 1: incorporate him, he's still not answering. Sorry, it was never
Speaker 1: his fault. No, it wasn't that. Uh, he'll be back
Speaker 1: next week, trusty. Alright, final question, Let's say we lived
Speaker 1: in a bizarro world, gentleman, and we had to pick
Speaker 1: a side and each and every one of these uh
Speaker 1: sixteen games except for one one game that on the side.
Speaker 1: You're like, Man, I wouldn't bet this period, even with
Speaker 1: your money. Matt, what game do you on? No part
Speaker 1: of the very first game? As I looked down that
Speaker 1: I scratched off the list the vikings in the Colts
Speaker 1: vikings on the road at this Colts team. This line
Speaker 1: is confusing. The Colts are are favored in this game
Speaker 1: after laying an egg against the Jaguars. What is gonna
Speaker 1: go on here? You look at this Minnesota defense and
Speaker 1: they gave up massively high rushing success rate in week one.
Speaker 1: So now you look Jonathan Taylor and nine himes come
Speaker 1: into town for this. Um. Yeah, this, this line, this game,
Speaker 1: this everything you know? Let me figure out this Colts
Speaker 1: team a little bit better and are the Vikings just
Speaker 1: gonna lay an egg this season? Sitting on that key
Speaker 1: number three as well? That was the first, very first
Speaker 1: game this week that I scratched off. I I completely
Speaker 1: get it because you just don't know based on everything
Speaker 1: I just said about the Vikings defense, and then you
Speaker 1: can see the Vikings just destroying them as well. You
Speaker 1: for me, it's a Sunday night game. I know that. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's man's best bet. It's one of my best bets too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I it will be interesting. I think
Speaker 1: that Atlanta made the Seahawks look better than they really are,
Speaker 1: and uh, i'd like to see Camp performing in an
Speaker 1: environment outside of New England against a division opponent and
Speaker 1: see what kind of a game plan Belichick comes up
Speaker 1: for this week. I think it's an interesting game. It's
Speaker 1: a tough number four, and I don't want any part
Speaker 1: of it. I will say now that the well I
Speaker 1: said I was gonna say now that the numbers four
Speaker 1: and a half. I will make it at Lanta Dallas.
Speaker 1: But actually it's the Buffalo Miami game that flum mixes
Speaker 1: me the most, because is Miami as bad as they
Speaker 1: were last week or are they every bit as good
Speaker 1: as I thought they would be in the off season?
Speaker 1: In other words, the Ryan Fitzpatrick team that closed out
Speaker 1: last year. I have Miami Dolphins over. I have them
Speaker 1: on a future ticket for the a f C East,
Speaker 1: So I'm not willing after one performance against New England
Speaker 1: to write them off. So six points is a lot
Speaker 1: to get. I'm not pulling the trigger on it. I
Speaker 1: would not be surprised with either outcome. Buffalo wins by
Speaker 1: ten or more, wouldn't be surprised. Miami wins out right,
Speaker 1: wouldn't be surprised. That'd be the game for me. That
Speaker 1: would be it. So what are our best best? Cat?
Speaker 1: We review these here? Matt Brown in order has Seahawks,
Speaker 1: Giants and forty Niners Jets under Yes, I have Panthers, Raiders,
Speaker 1: Saints over and Giants and Gil You have Seahawks, Browns, Chiefs, yes, sir.
Speaker 1: And our survivor picks? Did you take those? Now? Do
Speaker 1: we go to survivor picks? That's what we forgot. I
Speaker 1: got the Brown. Oh my gosh, we got Todd now too, Matt.
Speaker 1: What's your survivor pick? Cardinals over the Washington oh As
Speaker 1: went right? Against me. Well, I'm not betting in um,
Speaker 1: let's see, uh, strategic on both of our parts because
Speaker 1: we probably won't use either the Browns or the Cardinals
Speaker 1: in another touch. Yeah, that was that went into it
Speaker 1: as well. I didn't. Yeah, I kind of. I tried
Speaker 1: to play it is if I were actually still in contest. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with that. I would take the Browns this week.
Speaker 1: I like it. Ladies and gentlemen. Right at the end
Speaker 1: of the show, while we're doing inventory, it is Todd wishnev. Todd,
Speaker 1: what's your excuse? You guys didn't tell him I'm this week?
Speaker 1: You just said even when we thought we had him,
Speaker 1: were you effort? Effort? Todd? Okay? And then the teasers,
Speaker 1: we have teasers. We all have the chiefs Man's combining
Speaker 1: them with the Ravens. I'm taking them with the Titans,
Speaker 1: and you're taking them with the Steelers. All right, that
Speaker 1: doesn't we try to hear me literally the last sentence,
Speaker 1: Todd Wishnev. Ladies and gentlemen, what's your excuse? Toddy? My excuses?
Speaker 1: Nobody told me what time we were doing the megapod.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you a question, what time did we
Speaker 1: do it every single week last year. I don't know
Speaker 1: ten o'clock. Maybe that's right, uh, and this way, but honestly,
Speaker 1: you ate it one time and then you switch it
Speaker 1: to another time. So I didn't know that we had
Speaker 1: an official time yet, Yes, we had an official time.
Speaker 1: How did your tennis match go, Todd? I played amazing.
Speaker 1: I beat this guy who I never usually beat, six, four, seven, five.
Speaker 1: Are you ready for Matt Brown? Todd? Probably not. I
Speaker 1: heard Matt Brown's a superstar. What did that mean? Are
Speaker 1: you ready for Matt Brown to tennis? For tennis? Todd
Speaker 1: to Matt Brown. Most of the audience didn't get that.
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, because I heard Matt tennis pennis superstar. I'm
Speaker 1: just good at beating like old middle aged athletes who
Speaker 1: have no achilles. I think he think he's referring to
Speaker 1: sound like me. I resemble that remark, Todd next week,
Speaker 1: also slightly portly midwesterners, Todd. Are you able to see
Speaker 1: us our new set up here at the day? That
Speaker 1: looks pretty cool? Dude, Get your butt back to Vegas
Speaker 1: and we don't have to have this error again. Okay,
Speaker 1: if my good friends Mike and Gil would hook me up,
Speaker 1: I would be back and taking tomorrow. Oh, trust me,
Speaker 1: we are your good friends. We are for Todd Wishne.
Speaker 1: He'll be back next week. Thank you, Matt, appreciate it. Man.
Speaker 1: I'll see you this evening, Matt Brown. Everybody from MSG
Speaker 1: plus is primetime action. The two of us do that
Speaker 1: with Danielle Alvari and with Kelly Bidlin. Uh seven to
Speaker 1: ten Eastern right there at MSG plus seven to ten pm.
Speaker 1: Wall games are going on. Thank you, Mikey, and thank
Speaker 1: you so much. You have no idea. Again, I cannot
Speaker 1: stress this enough. This tickles me. Is that the right
Speaker 1: word tickles? This is terrific. I love to set up
Speaker 1: so great come a long way? Yeah, man, sure half
Speaker 1: was that Virginia Slims. Rginia Virginia Slims. I like to
Speaker 1: be compared to pioneers on the Ladies Tennis Tour. Good
Speaker 1: luck with all your bets. Hope we do better this
Speaker 1: week than we did last. Mikey accepted. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 1: Good luck with everything. Week two in the National Football League,
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