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Speaker 1: The Cowboys trading all pro Michael Parsons to the Packers.

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Speaker 1: They've agreed to a four year deal. So he got

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Speaker 1: the deal already one hundred and eighty eight million dollars

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Speaker 1: and that is going to be of course, including one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six that'll be guaranteed, which makes it

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Speaker 1: an average of forty seven million per year Martin, which

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Speaker 1: will be the highest paid non quarterback in history. And also,

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Speaker 1: if you are the Cowboys, they netted to first rounders

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Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. So just first and foremost, give me

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Speaker 1: your initial reaction. Kenny Clark and Kenny Clark and Kenny Clark,

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Speaker 1: no disrespect. Hold on, yeah, Kenny Clark, Kenny Clark, I'm

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Speaker 1: sitting there driving, you know, heading back this way. Boom,

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Speaker 1: We get the text. Boom is breaking it's all over

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Speaker 1: sports radio. And this has obviously been the conversation since

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Speaker 1: Rob's been I'm pretty much all I had. I've had,

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Speaker 1: you know, Rob G's and you and he from and

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Speaker 1: this has been what folks have been talking about, how

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Speaker 1: Jerry and Mike are going back and forth, and not

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Speaker 1: to mention, in the middle of this, he drops America's team,

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Speaker 1: So the Cowboys are pretty much dominated to Jerry's You

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Speaker 1: know exactly what he wants the conversation. But Martin, this

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Speaker 1: is something that I thought about last week. We had

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Speaker 1: this conversation when we were discussing and I said, you

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Speaker 1: just wonder, at a certain point would it backfire on

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Speaker 1: Jerry the way in which he's always conducted. We go back.

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Speaker 1: If you watch America's team, you go back to Emmett

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Speaker 1: had a holdout on the game too. Okay, fine, we

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Speaker 1: worked that deal out. You go back. Of course, with

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Speaker 1: some times with Michael Irvin, they had some deal with issues.

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Speaker 1: They work it out. He loves them. They're part of

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Hall of Fame and they're just part of

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Speaker 1: the guys. They're Cowboys. But then you fast forward a

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Speaker 1: little bit, you get Deack. We know what happened there

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Speaker 1: now is he's making sixty million. We know what happened

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Speaker 1: was see d Lamb now with Mike, And I was

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Speaker 1: telling rob G that I wonder if at a certain point,

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Speaker 1: especially when it started to get personal, right, you started

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Speaker 1: to make it like MICA's hurt more than he is

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Speaker 1: all these out six games. Mike's like, no, it was

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Speaker 1: four when you say, man, no, we already had deal

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Speaker 1: going on in the back room of a smoky club

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Speaker 1: and Vegas kind of vibe. I'm writing the deals on napkins,

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Speaker 1: that kind of a thing. When Mike's saying, hey, man, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: my agent needs to be a part of this. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you have to be a part of it. You can't

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Speaker 1: even make a deal without the CBA. So I was saying, then,

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Speaker 1: I just wonder at a certain point, doesn't backfire on Jerry,

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Speaker 1: all the showmanship, all the don't worry about at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, we're gonna get the deal done.

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Speaker 1: It always works out in my favor. Does it finally backfire?

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Speaker 1: And to me, I'm looking at this as it does,

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Speaker 1: because you never want to lose your best player, right,

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Speaker 1: It's if you lose one of your better Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: tough on Jay. It's a business. You gotta do what

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Speaker 1: you gotta do. You can't lose a twenty six year

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Speaker 1: old best player on your team who's still very much

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Speaker 1: at his prime and still missed four games and still

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Speaker 1: comes back, still get your twelve thirteen sacks. So I

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Speaker 1: don't want to let that guy go. And I think

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Speaker 1: it got personal. I think it was. You know, this

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Speaker 1: want to be here, I want to be a cowboy.

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Speaker 1: I don't care about money, want my agent to make

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Speaker 1: the deal. And I was upset what I'm doing, Fat,

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Speaker 1: because you want to make sure you get the best

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Speaker 1: is what I'm here for. But at the end of

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Speaker 1: Man did this back far because I'm looking at it

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Speaker 1: and just from what we know about him, even before

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Speaker 1: to say I did it without Jimmy Johnson, Right, I

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Speaker 1: did it on my own. I know, Barry Switcher, but

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Speaker 1: that was Jimmy's team. And I look at this as

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Speaker 1: a setback in the sense of your defense was already struggling.

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Speaker 1: Your offense is good when it was at its best,

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Speaker 1: but now you don't have your defensive player. It's a setback.

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Speaker 1: And why go all in, Martin, go Why go all

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Speaker 1: You just set your team back another year too, because

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Speaker 1: you could have done this beforehand and gotten those two

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Speaker 1: The gambler, gambled wrong in the house won in this case, Michael,

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Speaker 1: you know, or the Packers because they got who they wanted,

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Speaker 1: the Packers winning this deal, and they finally Jerry can

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Speaker 3: So I think that Jerry looks at this right, you know,

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Speaker 3: I first of all, I guarantee you. John michol To

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Speaker 3: tweeted out that they're having an availability at the Star

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Speaker 3: and at six thirty Central. So just a couple of minutes,

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Speaker 3: I promise you two things that Jerry Jones will not say,

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Speaker 3: and well two things he will say. One of them

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Speaker 3: it won't be with Jesus that he bungled this deal.

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Speaker 3: It's not going to be that. The other one he

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Speaker 3: will say is the last time everybody called me crazy

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Speaker 3: for trading a star defensive player. I won three super

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Speaker 3: Bowls herschel Walker, I mean a star star player, a

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Speaker 1: Everybody called me crazy.

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Speaker 3: I won three super Bowls with the herschel Walker trade

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Speaker 3: to Minnesota and getting all of those picks back.

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Speaker 1: He's I think he's gonna be wrong on both.

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Speaker 3: I don't see that this being This is not the

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Speaker 1: There's no defending it.

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Speaker 3: If you're gonna trade Michael Parsons, whether you're gonna sign

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons, whatever you're going we're going to do with

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons, you should have done it two years ago,

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Speaker 3: that is. But Jerry's a gambler, right, And if you

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Speaker 3: are playing poker like me, I bet on games, right,

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Speaker 3: and I bet on games.

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Speaker 1: I don't play cards.

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Speaker 3: I'm not a card shark in that way because one

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Speaker 3: time that money stolen me playing talk in high school.

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Speaker 1: And that's the story for another day. But after that

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Speaker 1: I said, no more card. That is too much.

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Speaker 3: Right anyway, Jerry can't worry about the hands he's already lost.

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Speaker 1: All he's got is the chips that he has in

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Speaker 3: And when Michael Parsons went to go get that second

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Speaker 3: he's got a little case of contract itis in his back.

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Speaker 3: I get that, But Michael Parsons are playing high level

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Speaker 3: football for what the last ten years minimum, between Penn

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Speaker 3: There's something in his back that an m RI will

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Speaker 3: He's got too high level football. They can find, they

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Speaker 3: was the fact that Michael Barton's gonna have a legitimate

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Speaker 3: is something that I don't think I ever crossed the mind.

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Speaker 3: That's when those trade calls started happening. You see, the

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Speaker 3: And it's not necessarily this one was kind of I mean,

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Speaker 1: The felt like probably could negotiate off of that deal.

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Speaker 3: But you said something in your opening salvo that Jerry

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Speaker 3: Jones just completely ignored. He said, your agent said that's

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Speaker 3: what I'm here for. And Jerry Jones, at every step

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Speaker 3: not offer Michael Parsons a contract, said both these under contract.

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Speaker 1: And offered him one.

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Speaker 3: The issue in this entire time has been the go

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Speaker 3: between of the agent, which I don't know. A couple

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Speaker 3: That's because he didn't have an agent. Apparently this time

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons can't get a negotiated deal because he does

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Speaker 1: You're telling me it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Now, I think that's what it came down to

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Speaker 3: more than anything. Michael Parsons said he wanted to be there,

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Speaker 1: And that's where I come back to my point of

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Speaker 1: you're not And so to me both sides, Jerry takes

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Speaker 1: Twenty five years later, you got Michael Irvan, all these guys,

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Speaker 1: And I think he just has this thing. Is hekl

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Speaker 1: think he just has this thing where because I treat guys,

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Speaker 1: you know Ryan, we all have this bond that no

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Speaker 1: there's disrespect, there's business, and I understand business can be difficult,

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Speaker 1: So you can say, hey, my name Bennett, I ain't

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Speaker 1: and all you keep doing is throwing my agent under

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Speaker 3: Honestly, you can have there are trickles and if you

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Speaker 3: I'm not expecting the guy driving home from work today

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Speaker 3: to be necessarily on this. David Mullaghetta is Michael Parson's agent,

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Speaker 3: their hot streak, really on their run, he was losing

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Speaker 3: passing game coordators, offensive cooridators, defensive coordinators. And it didn't

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Speaker 3: matter because Shanahan was continued to hire people and he

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Speaker 3: was like he kept hitting out of the park. And

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Speaker 3: the one time that they made the mistake at defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 3: they lost in the Super Bowl in overtime.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, did it as a resulted in the Super Bowl?

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Speaker 3: No, But there's a lot of teams Jerry Jones right

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Speaker 3: now would trade a whole lot to have the success

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Speaker 3: the forty nine has had in the postseason over the

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Speaker 3: last five years compared to what he has. Are you

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Speaker 3: the forty nine ers or are you the Eagles? The

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Speaker 3: Eagles lost both They went to the Super Bowl, and

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Speaker 3: everybody says Jalen Hurts had a great game in that game.

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Speaker 3: He did have a fumble six in the game that

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Speaker 3: they lost by a touchdown, Right, but they were still

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Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, a team that had a super

448
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Speaker 3: Bowl level type of roster. They lose both their coordinators,

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Speaker 3: fall off a cliff second half of the season, one

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Speaker 3: and nine get dog walked in the playoffs, losing the

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Speaker 3: wild card to Tampa, and then all of a sudden boom,

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Speaker 3: make the right hires again in the.

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl, win the Super Bowl? Right now?

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Speaker 3: Forty nine ers had some injury dis reprecies there too.

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Speaker 3: Lion should have everybody back. What type of coaches, Dan Campbell,

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Speaker 3: that's the answer that we get right here, because I agree,

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Speaker 3: fifteen wins, I don't need to see that, But I

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Speaker 3: need to see a team that is still a top

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Speaker 3: of the NFC Nord because this roster, to me, is

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Speaker 3: the best in the NFC North Minnesota too many questions

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Speaker 3: at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I went to Michigan.

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Speaker 3: I was clapping and standing on the table when they

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Speaker 3: ran the ball for the twenty seventh straight time against

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Speaker 3: Penn State. You know, oh, I was just so excited

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Speaker 3: because that's just type of football a that I love

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Speaker 3: to watch. But also I thought JJ McCarthy put the

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Speaker 3: ball at risk. I know he didn't throw a lot

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Speaker 3: of interceptions. Watched the Rose Bowl, Caleb down Shua and Shorter.

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Speaker 3: That's a pick, Marcus May, that's a pick, right, he

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Speaker 3: would just overthrow easy Patty. He just he wasn't that

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Speaker 3: we're jumping up the tenth to get that guy. I

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Speaker 3: think that's what was shocking for me.

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Speaker 1: I think speaking for you too, where nobody say he

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Speaker 1: can't be a late first round All he did was win,

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Speaker 1: But the jump up the tenth was like, wait, did

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Speaker 1: I miss something? Because I swear I thought I saw

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Speaker 1: just about every pass in his career. Did I miss something?

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna find out who he is.

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Speaker 3: But one of the most interesting to me sliding door

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Speaker 3: moments in the last sliding door moments where if one

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Speaker 3: thing went a little differently, the whole league would have

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Speaker 3: been in a different spot. Aaron Jones ran for like

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Speaker 3: one fifty something in that wildcard game when Green Bay

485
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Speaker 3: was Remember they were the first I believe seven seed,

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Speaker 3: the first extra wildcard team to win a playoff game.

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Speaker 1: They go into Jerry's world.

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Speaker 3: They beat Dallas and Aaron Jones runs all over him.

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Speaker 3: The Packers let Aaron Jones walk to Minnesota, make Jordan

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Speaker 3: Love at that point the highest paid quarterback in football.

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Speaker 3: And Michael Parsons was on that roster for Dallas and

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Speaker 3: got crushed for being quote unquote invisible in that postseason game,

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Speaker 3: dak to play terribly as well. Jerry Jones today just

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Speaker 3: said one of the things that we need to show up,

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Speaker 3: we need to be able to stop the run.

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Speaker 1: And I know he's thinking about that game in this moment.

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Speaker 3: And if you in fact think, if you're Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 3: and you in fact think that Michael Parsons is not

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Speaker 3: worth this money, not worth this type of deal, because

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Speaker 3: even though there's a discrepancy in what he was offered

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Speaker 3: compared to what like ultimately so there was a big

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Speaker 3: gap of a five million dollars there, which is pretty significant.

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Speaker 3: But I again, if there had been like maybe just

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Speaker 3: regular negotiations here, who probably could have found a middle ground.

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Speaker 3: Because Michael was his son advised to stay in doubts,

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Speaker 3: he said he wanted to stay Jerry. I can't imagine

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Speaker 3: Jerry's not thinking about those playoff games, thinking about how

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Speaker 3: Michael Parsons wasn't quite there and if he thinks that

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Speaker 3: this is a massive overpay, then good job by you,

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Speaker 3: because the Lions.

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Speaker 1: Are gonna be really good in this division.

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Speaker 3: The Vikings have a great roster and that they hit

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Speaker 3: on this quarterback and they Kevin O'Connell, depending on how

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Speaker 3: you you listen to him saying, oh, I love the quarterback.

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Speaker 1: You look at the Auf Steason moves.

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Speaker 3: He was on the phone with every other quarterback and

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Speaker 3: seemed so see how it actually plays out. And then

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Speaker 3: you have the Packers like and then you have the

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Speaker 3: Bears rather who just hired Ben Johnson and they expect

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Speaker 3: to have a lot of success. This might be a

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Speaker 3: team that gets beat up in the division regardless of

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Speaker 3: what they did well.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna get beat up regardless. To me, I've already

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Speaker 1: told Rob g that I think the Commanders are gonna

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Speaker 1: be right about the same back.

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Speaker 3: And know what I'm saying, the Packers might be a

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Speaker 3: team that get beat up in their division. If everything

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Speaker 3: the way the NFC North plays out, you might have

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Speaker 3: got some pretty high first round picks here just in general.

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Speaker 3: And you know, and I'm not saying I don't think

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Speaker 3: they're gonna have.

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Speaker 1: A terrible year.

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Speaker 3: But no, I picked the Packers to be third in

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Speaker 3: the in the North. Probably still third in the North.

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Speaker 1: They're nine and eleven games to me, somewhere around there

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Speaker 1: between nine and eleven. The thing that I think also

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Speaker 1: helped Jerry sleep at night tonight is that he can say, well,

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Speaker 1: look at the other guys who've gotten paid in that

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Speaker 1: same you know type of position, TJ Watt, Well, TJ.

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Speaker 1: What have you done for me lately? Oh? That's I

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Speaker 1: know that's coming today. They haven't done anything in the

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Speaker 1: sason with TJ. Watt. They haven't won a game eight

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Speaker 1: nine years. Miles Garrett got all the money, hasn't really

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Speaker 1: done anything. I know they got one with Joe Flacco.

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Speaker 1: But point is it's not. Their perennial defense isn't great.

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Speaker 1: They're always in the postseason. So I think that's one

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Speaker 1: thing that Jerry Jones, when he hit that melatone in

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Speaker 1: the night and he sleeps good, he's going to be

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Speaker 1: able to say, man, I know he's good. I know

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Speaker 1: he's great. But one defensive end, you know, outside linebacker,

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Speaker 1: doesn't change the game like this. He ain't Lawrence Taylor,

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Speaker 1: Max Crosby, Max Crosby spectacular. Everybody wanted him to get

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Speaker 1: traded last season. Go to it to the Lions, you know,

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Speaker 1: because they were hurt with a Hutchinson. So I think

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Speaker 1: that is something he can sell himself and say, great

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Speaker 1: as these guys are, they're not making that much of

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Speaker 1: a difference. And those types of guys really only make

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Speaker 1: a difference when they become kind of the hit man

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Speaker 1: for hire. And we'll talk about that a little bit

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Speaker 1: later on. Just some teams that maybe could have jumped

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Speaker 1: in there as well.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Jones traded Michael Parsons to the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 1: couple of first round UH picks. There, he's getting one

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight million dollars forty seven annually, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and thirty six guaranteed the highest paid non quarterback

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Speaker 1: in history, which, by the way, I mean, how long

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Speaker 1: is that gonna last? We do that every time somebody

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Speaker 1: gets it the highest paid non quarterback, then we'll be

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Speaker 1: doing it again, I don't know Bud because forty like

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Speaker 1: he's the highest paid nine quarterback by struck by a

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Speaker 1: look at look at me, look Abdul Carter. In about

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Speaker 1: two three years, we're gonna be saying the same conversation.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, it's an absurd amount of money. However,

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Speaker 1: if I'd have told you this ten to fifteen years ago,

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Speaker 1: we'd been you know, uh, Khalil Mack money was crazy money, aid, Yeah, yeah, Hutchinson,

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Speaker 1: he's about to get paid. It was that that's some money.

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Speaker 3: Now that is an underlying interesting third day of this

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Speaker 3: topic story, real quick, Aiden Hutchinson is up next. Now,

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Speaker 3: the guy in your division is the highest paid not

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Speaker 1: And he was in VP, not defensive. He was in

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Speaker 1: VP candidate before he got hurt. All right, a couple

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Speaker 1: we're gonna do last call. I know a lot of

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Speaker 1: you been wanting to get in. We've been We've had

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Speaker 1: with us with that. All right, So Mark, let's get

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Speaker 1: to some sound from Jerry. He had a lot to say.

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Speaker 1: We haven't had a chance to hear too much. So

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Speaker 1: here's Jerry Jones on what happened today.

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Speaker 7: Oh, we have the highest paid player in the NFL

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Speaker 7: at quarterback, and we made that commitment last year and

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Speaker 7: we're proud we made it and had everything to do

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Speaker 7: with this decision. Everything it is. Give us every opportunity

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Speaker 7: with Dak, Press Good and Lamb and the base that

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Speaker 7: we've got to win.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 7: This gives us a better chance to be a better

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Speaker 7: team than we have been the last few several years

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Speaker 7: since Michael's been here. Not any negative on Michael, but

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Speaker 7: we're trying to get better. We're trying to stop the

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Speaker 7: run and stay in the hunt.

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Speaker 1: I don't disagree that. Potentially long term, yes, because obviously

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Speaker 1: there's a greater sum than just one meeting. You got

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Speaker 1: all these picks, and then who knows what they do

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Speaker 1: with the picks, you might get more players. I understand that.

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Speaker 1: I guess my frustration would be and I'm not a

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Speaker 1: Cowboy fan, but if I'm a Cowboy fan, if not, now,

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Speaker 1: then win? How many years do I have to hear? Well,

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Speaker 1: what this is going to do?

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Speaker 7: This?

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Speaker 1: Well, how you don't even know we're about to do

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Speaker 1: I got these watch when we do it. My son

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Speaker 1: is twenty I'm making it up. He's never seen it

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game. Sure, my twenty two year old son

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Speaker 1: has never seen us in the Great America's Team documentary

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Speaker 1: with him It and Michael Irvan and Troidman at the Triplets,

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Speaker 1: and I I saw, like I'm telling old fable tales,

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Speaker 1: wives tales to him, to my son or my daughter.

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Speaker 1: Is what I think. You know, a true Cowboy fan

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Speaker 1: can be feeling. So Yes, I understand that if he

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Speaker 1: were a general manager who had a long amount of

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Speaker 1: years ahead of him. You know, he's fifty five, and

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Speaker 1: I've got a whole lot of going on your Brad

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Speaker 1: Holmes in Detroit. You know we're doing this for the

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Speaker 1: long term. I understand it, Jerry Man. I mean, like

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Speaker 1: I said, if you're trying to he's eighty two years old,

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Speaker 1: and I keep bringing it up, only be saying if

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Speaker 1: he's trying to win now and he's trying to get

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Speaker 1: the monkey off his back. To me, you did not

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Speaker 1: do that giving up your best player team, not just

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Speaker 1: a really good DEFENSI player, He's the best player on

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Speaker 1: your team and one of the best in the league.

648
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Speaker 1: And so doing that to me just set you back,

649
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Speaker 1: and you just don't know what it does to the

650
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Speaker 1: team as a whole. Do guys start to kind of

651
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: what a.

652
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 3: Lot of guys have said about how they're not they

653
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:07,000
Speaker 3: don't like the leadership, the timeline, not necessarily, I mean

654
00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 3: the Twitter or x timeline.

655
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Speaker 1: And they've been saying they're not happy about this because

656
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: guys want to win. Because I don't know, man, these

657
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: contracts are guaranteed. I'm trying to win now. You just

658
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 1: never know. Maybe this is my last year and I'm

659
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:19,720
Speaker 1: trying to win and you just got rid of the

660
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: guy that gave me another chance to win. So yes, Jerry,

661
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: I totally hear you. In the long run, maybe just maybe,

662
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 1: but you know what else could have happened. You get

663
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 1: a couple of draft picks in the first round and

664
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Speaker 1: they ain't all that, they are seeds. They end up

665
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 1: being CC plus. You got an eight plus guy who

666
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:39,520
Speaker 1: won't know nothing but twelve sacks every year period, and

667
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: you you hope that they'd come out to be that.

668
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 1: But how many times have we seen guys be a

669
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: bus or maybe not even a bus? Just all right,

670
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: Jadavian County cool, he's good.

671
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 3: I would shaw the Cowboys historically over the last give

672
00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 3: it like I mean, obviously, finding Dak in the fourth

673
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 3: round that is a strong win, and.

674
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: Rest a lot of these guys to get the second deals.

675
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: But some of these first early round picks for the

676
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: Cowboys were good and really like played well. I don't

677
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: think the Dallas misses a ton early in the draft.

678
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 3: Ironically enough, though, one of them Mizzie Smith, a Michigan

679
00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: former defensive tackle. He has been obstensibly now a mess

680
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 3: that you're trading for Kenny Clark, and you have again

681
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:28,040
Speaker 3: can't stop the run, and that's job's job.

682
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I.

683
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 3: Don't think that what Jerry just said is necessarily incongruent.

684
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 3: The issue that everyone has, and the issue that I

685
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:45,000
Speaker 3: have as well with this, is the order of operations.

686
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 3: If you made this deal, if Jerry Jones had traded

687
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:52,040
Speaker 3: Michael Parsons the day before the draft and gotten two

688
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 3: first rounders, one gott whatever the Cowboys pick was this year,

689
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 3: and then eighteen from green Bay and then green Bay's

690
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: next first rounder, I think that we'd be looking at

691
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 3: this in a much different light because now you're adding

692
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: two players, like if the Bengals with Trey Hendrickson.

693
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 1: Part of the reason why theoretically.

694
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 3: They could have let Trey Henderson walk or not extend

695
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: him past this upcoming season because you were drafting Shamar Stewart.

696
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: In the first round. Now, part of the problem is

697
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 1: they took forever to de sign him those deals.

698
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:27,719
Speaker 3: But that's at least intellectually congruent with the plan. We

699
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: don't like where our pass rusher is headed, even though

700
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 3: he's had record production. We don't want to offer him

701
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 3: a long term deal. We'll get a guy behind him.

702
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 3: That's the way you build a roster in the NFL,

703
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 3: whether you have the machinations of what the actual payment was,

704
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 3: obviously was the hang up there with this, with this move,

705
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 3: Jerry's looking at this roster. He made the point, and

706
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 3: I was telling Soccer just off. It's like Jerry is

707
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: not about the jaysban to come out here and say,

708
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: I got the highest paid quarterback of football. I got

709
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 3: one of the high favorite receivers of football. We think

710
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: we got. We need to win today, and I don't

711
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: think that that's a crazy statement to make when you've

712
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: got the highest paid player, like you cut that deal,

713
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 3: whether we think it was a good deal or not.

714
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,160
Speaker 3: Jerry clearly did because he cut it. Do you see

715
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:15,240
Speaker 3: what I'm saying? He gave him that no trade clause.

716
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 3: And so if you think that that is true, then

717
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: paying the highest paid quarterback the third or fourth highest

718
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:23,960
Speaker 3: paid receiver to maybe second to Ceed Lamb.

719
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Speaker 1: I forget the exact numbers.

720
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: No, he's got to be the least start but third

721
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 3: and fourth highest paid receiver in Ceede Lamb, thank you high,

722
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 3: but all again highest when they signed the deal. If

723
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: you're gonna make that you're the triplets all three highest paid,

724
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 3: you can't fill off the rest of your roster, you

725
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: gonna look like the Lakers playing Magic Laver off the

726
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,320
Speaker 3: bench in Game five because you got nobody else your trust.

727
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. I didn't have to make him

728
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: the highest paid because if I do the deals earlier,

729
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: then they don't have to And with Dak, I don't

730
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: have if I don't have to wait, if I just

731
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,280
Speaker 1: do it early, if that's your guy, there's something to

732
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: identifying what you need early. You go Packers. They paid

733
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:00,560
Speaker 1: a bunch of money, but in the long term, it's

734
00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 1: gonna be great. Remember we were having these conversations four

735
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: or five years ago, whatever it is, maybe with Patrick Mahome,

736
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:07,120
Speaker 1: maybe five or six. Oh, he just got on that

737
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,480
Speaker 1: four hundred some million. Well that looks pretty good now

738
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,320
Speaker 1: because it looked good. Thing when you exactly when you

739
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: stretch that thing out, you knew, well, shoot, I ain't

740
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,120
Speaker 1: gonna lie the way he looking throwing no look passes,

741
00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: behind the back, passes, left hand passes. All he's doing

742
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 1: is winning a bunch of games and MVP. Yeah, that

743
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: money is gonna be good. And so to me, when

744
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: you have that long term view, when you're a prognosticator.

745
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: I can look a little in the future. I can

746
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: have the wear withthal and some foresight to say this

747
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 1: is gonna make sense. You know what, Dak is good.

748
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: He may not be Joe Montana. Hey, he may never

749
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: have the career Troy Aikman, but David, we might be

750
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 1: able to win one with him. Let's sign him now.

751
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: But then you mess around and play and now you

752
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: gotta pay him sixty when he should have been a guy.

753
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: He should have been rock purttyish because Rock Party can

754
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,080
Speaker 1: look in Dak and say, you ain't done nothing like

755
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: I've done already. Sure you've done nothing I've done to

756
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: warrant you making well, you know, sixteen seven eighteen million

757
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: dollars more than me. So you took care of him.

758
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: Then he gets a Trevor Lawrence like deal. We all said, whoa.

759
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: I mean, he hadn't really done, but okay, your future, Okay,

760
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: forty something million for your guy that you're gonna ride

761
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 1: this thing out with. Okay, I'm not mad at that.

762
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: Sixty is crazy. Sixty was crazy last year, year before

763
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: next year. In the next year, you can't get the

764
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 1: deal where it's gonna be crazy for five years, it

765
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: has to be crazy, Like it has to be crazy

766
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: for a year two you can't have signed a deal

767
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: where it we're permanently gonna think that deal was wild.

768
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:32,839
Speaker 3: So I agree with you. I am not knocking at

769
00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,359
Speaker 3: Dak Prescott two at his best. I think if Dak

770
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 3: Prespott was the quarterback of the Packers and not the Cowboys,

771
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 3: we talk about an entirely different light because of this.

772
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,319
Speaker 3: The attention that the Cowboys get. Dak Prescott at his

773
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: best has been a player who received MVP votes in

774
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 3: this league, a guy who finished second in MBP voting

775
00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 3: I believe, or at least for second up until week

776
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,560
Speaker 3: fifteen or whatever, like he was right there and then

777
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 3: the next year kind of fell off on the cliff.

778
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 3: But just conception, this team wasn't getting it done. You're

779
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 3: gonna look at this postseason. This team hasn't been getting

780
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,720
Speaker 3: it done. And if again, if you had traded Michael

781
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: Parsons at any point prior to now, it would have

782
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 3: been a better time to do it. But if you

783
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 3: just go back to the Gambler, which again I didn't

784
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 3: call Jerry that.

785
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: He called himself that.

786
00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 3: An eighth part Netflix documentary and I've lost enough money

787
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 3: in poker to know. You lost the first big hand, right,

788
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: You thought you had a good hand. You went into

789
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 3: the negotiation with Dak Prescott, you got hose.

790
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,720
Speaker 1: You lost the second big hand.

791
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 3: You thought you had a better hand with Ceedee Lamb,

792
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 3: you got hosed in that negotiation.

793
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,719
Speaker 1: How many hands can you afford to lose in a row?

794
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,799
Speaker 3: Jerry folded the cards in said I'm gonna keep my

795
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 3: chips in my pocket and try to continue to stay

796
00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 3: at the table, as opposed to saying I'm gonna go

797
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:55,040
Speaker 3: all in again on this roster and with a team

798
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:59,359
Speaker 3: that we all have as a collective media have thought

799
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: the Cowboys are going to be a disappointment this season,

800
00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 3: and all of us thought that Michael Parsons was going

801
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,240
Speaker 3: to be on that roster Week one.

802
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: You've given out a lot of passes. You throwing a

803
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: lot of bail because we've been giving up five or

804
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: six instances where he could have done this diff He

805
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,360
Speaker 1: could have signed Dak Prescott earlier, save somebody used that

806
00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: money for some other things. Maybe I'm putting more guys around.

807
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: Micah Cede Lamb the CD was trying to play a

808
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: little big game let me see who's gonna get signed,

809
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: and we see who the market is. But he was

810
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: playing around. But maybe you signed him earlier. Again, and

811
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: my point is you trade Rember. The story reports come out,

812
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: they came to Jerry said, but you know we can

813
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,279
Speaker 1: trade mikeel right now, two years ago. So he all

814
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 1: of these missteps continue to be why you're always a

815
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 1: few guys short, because it could be not to have

816
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: to be a huge signing, but maybe you just find

817
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,800
Speaker 1: a nice cornerback, a nice linebacker for a nice salary.

818
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: Nothing crazy. Shore adds to the team. Because of that

819
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 1: money you saved with Dak If you were paying him

820
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: forty five instead of sixty, that's fifteen. We could spress

821
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: that out, spread that out a little bit. And to me,

822
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 1: these little small miscalculations that ultimately make him look cool

823
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: because he looks like I'm the big spender her the team.

824
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 1: And that's why we are where we are. We're after

825
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,880
Speaker 1: a couple of injuries. The Lions had a bunch of injuries.

826
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,160
Speaker 1: Now it bought them. It been been the butt finally

827
00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: in the postseason, but they were at the depth and

828
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 1: they were able to withstand that. It still go fifteen

829
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: to two and still beat down the Vikings a couple

830
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: of times when they weren't supposed to.

831
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: I don't think that Jerry looked I don't think that

832
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 3: at this time last year, as the DAK deals and

833
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: cd LAMB deals were getting done, I don't think that

834
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 3: Jerry felt like he looked cool with being the big spender.

835
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 3: I know that it was a headline, but like, just

836
00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,879
Speaker 3: because I'm really thinking about this this morning, man, if

837
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 3: I was all ready for Jerry versus Salary Cap Part three,

838
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,680
Speaker 3: salary Cap wins again, right, Jerry would be getting dragged

839
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 3: across the board for getting this deal done because of

840
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 3: the timing. Now, whether or not, I don't think the

841
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 3: deal is even that crazy for a guy like Michael Parsons.

842
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,440
Speaker 3: I think it's a good contract, right, Like if it's

843
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 3: a contract that if I was Jerry, I would have

844
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,400
Speaker 3: offered this contract to them. But Matt Moseley said it

845
00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 3: and that, and Matt Mosley and Edward are to plugged in.

846
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 3: Most Dallas guys that you'll ever find listened to the

847
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: podcasts at the bottom of the first hour to be

848
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 3: able to catch that when you listen to all of it.

849
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 3: And I'm sure it'll be a part of in the

850
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: Best of too. But Matt Mosley said it. He said

851
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 3: Jerry was shick of getting beat up on these deals.

852
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,680
Speaker 3: And Jerry, if he had signed this deal with Michael

853
00:38:16,719 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 3: Parsions the next day, everybody would have came out and

854
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:21,680
Speaker 3: said Jerry was two years too late on this deal,

855
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 3: and that's why the Cowboys aren't gonna win anything.

856
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: Now he's gonna come out and say.

857
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 3: At least, and here's the thing, if the Cowboys do,

858
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 3: if they do win something, now, let's say it. I mean,

859
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,839
Speaker 3: nobody predicted that Washington was gonna be what they were.

860
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 3: Let's say the Cowboys go on a run and have

861
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 3: the magical season and they win thirteen games. Jerry Jones

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Speaker 3: by week ten will be doing those post games with

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Speaker 3: his feed up saying, I told y'all I had what

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Speaker 3: it took to win. I didn't need to pay Michael

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Speaker 3: Parton's a lot that money. He goes back to being

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Speaker 3: the star of the show and honestly put to seem

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Speaker 3: in a better salary cap position than it was yesterday. Now,

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Speaker 3: not that it was two years ago, but today today,

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Speaker 3: in this situation, I can get it, and I get

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Speaker 3: what you're saying.

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Speaker 1: While his feet would be up, it might as well

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Speaker 1: be Groundhog's day, because they'll go thirteen to four and

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Speaker 1: losing in the first round or the second round obviously,

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Speaker 1: and then it will be having these same conversations because

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Speaker 1: he at this point he's created himself where it's only

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Speaker 1: a super bowler bus. Most teams do that, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: It would make sense, Josh Allen, makes sense somehow the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are in super Bowl or bus when they don't

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Speaker 1: have it. It's not even warranted because they don't even

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Speaker 1: get close regularly enough to be that man. Just like

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Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah,