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Speaker 1: Rapport Podcast. All right, this is it. I'm in here

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Speaker 1: with Kenyan Martin kmart. It's Michael Rapport. I am Wrapped

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Speaker 1: por Stereo Podcast two. Man, we've what's the deal? Kenyan

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Speaker 1: Martin Brother, I'm happy to be here, man, I'm excited

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Speaker 1: about that. I'm excited about it too, man. First of all,

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Speaker 1: I mean I've seen you play when you were in college.

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Speaker 1: You gave me a pound or two when you were

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Speaker 1: in the league. I was at an All Star Game

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Speaker 1: practice one year when you were there. I've been such

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Speaker 1: a fan of years for so long, So I'm hyped

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Speaker 1: to do this ship. I don't even know where to start.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'll just start with this because your presence

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Speaker 1: in the NBA, like obviously you know you could play,

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Speaker 1: but you had that goon factor. Okay, you had that

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Speaker 1: like wild car factor. You had that like Yo, my

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Speaker 1: guys are with me. We ain't taking no ship power forward.

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Speaker 1: I'm the first one to Curson. I'm here with Keny Martin.

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Speaker 1: He's laughing, brother, because I was gonna come right back

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Speaker 1: with you. You wouldn't. I wouldn't. I wanted to leave

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Speaker 1: you out to hanging mess you use out there tearing

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Speaker 1: things up. Well, what were you thinking a week ago

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Speaker 1: when this Charles Oakley situation happened? What do you think

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Speaker 1: of the you know, the the backlash of it, and

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Speaker 1: what do you think of the Knicks? You played with

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Speaker 1: the Knicks. What does your take on the whole Charles

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Speaker 1: Oakley of at all? For one they could have. I'm

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Speaker 1: with oak first and formed right, I'm with oak I'm

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Speaker 1: on oak side no matter what, because it could have

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Speaker 1: been handled better. It definitely could have been handled better. Man.

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Speaker 1: Whether we all know that celebrities and players and former players,

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Speaker 1: everybody go through the back. You don't walk through the

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Speaker 1: general admission. You don't know. He didn't walk through the front,

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Speaker 1: especially Charles Oakley. So they saw him walk in in

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Speaker 1: his building. They saw him walk in. That's my thing.

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Speaker 1: So you didn't want to handle list in the back,

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Speaker 1: or unless they did try to handling it back. And

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Speaker 1: oak was like, I paid for these seats, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to my damn seat what I'm saying. So then you

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Speaker 1: make a bad situation worse about surrounding him. Right, whatever

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Speaker 1: he was saying whatever, we don't don't nobody know the

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Speaker 1: context of the conversation, If there was a dialogue directed

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Speaker 1: that dolling or not, we don't know. He could have

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Speaker 1: couldn't missaying whatever. It couldn't been saying anything. We don't know.

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Speaker 1: But I think it was like split in the middle. Yeah, so,

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Speaker 1: and I think the security was the security guards like

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Speaker 1: what the ap what that for? You? Looking at and

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Speaker 1: then and then and then they escalated. Then you surround

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Speaker 1: him and he like what's going on? Then you touch him,

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Speaker 1: he like, don't touch me. And then and then they

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Speaker 1: cut the cameras to him. I'm with it, like fowing

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Speaker 1: you in my personal space. Then for two you just

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Speaker 1: put your hands on me. I'm gonna grown, man, and

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Speaker 1: it just gotta and it's happening in the garden. My

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Speaker 1: thing is, they're lucky the man didn't start swinging right,

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Speaker 1: Like that's like really turned out. Yeah, Like they're lucky.

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Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm saying. Like he's been knowing a

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Speaker 1: What I'm saying, So they lucky didn't go that way.

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Speaker 1: They're lucky that the most of it was the finger point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying. That's the justest of him slap

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Speaker 1: open hand slapping people. Like. That's my thing, Like, because

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Speaker 1: I tell myself, I've been putting that situation. I would

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Speaker 1: And then Dolan gold TV man might have a drinking problem,

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Speaker 1: Dolan Oakley, I'm with Oakley, you know the whole thing

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Speaker 1: you think is a fix? Just as a fan, just

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Speaker 1: as a player, what do you think is a fix

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Speaker 1: for the Nicks at this point? Do you trade you?

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Speaker 1: You understand contracts obviously way better than me. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's contract. What did the Knicks do to get back

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Speaker 1: back to being like the back on track to start?

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Speaker 1: Because then dold I go sell the team. That's right,

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Speaker 1: it's Phil Jackson, Like I've feel deal what he did

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Speaker 1: as a coach. It starts there, It starts at the

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Speaker 1: people that that's picking the towel, like my last year

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Speaker 1: down here from there. You know what I'm saying. We

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Speaker 1: didn't do that well my last year. We had a

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Speaker 1: brought in at the end of that year, right the

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Speaker 1: end of two thousand thirty. Yes, he just brought in.

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Speaker 1: He was brought in, but it was charts the end

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Speaker 1: they go? Like you think you go be back? I said,

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Speaker 1: you tell me. I don't know because I didn't get

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Speaker 1: no feeling out of the meeting. And what are those meetings?

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Speaker 1: Like you're like over, season's over? Like what's the plans

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Speaker 1: for the year? Like I was a free agent, Like

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Speaker 1: So I come in, I sit down, I'm like, what's up?

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Speaker 1: This was quick. Mine was like I didn't get no

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Speaker 1: It was just sort of formality. Yeah, it was like

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Speaker 1: the decision that field that's made. Do you think that

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Speaker 1: Phil Jackson obviously his resume as a coach, we don't

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Speaker 1: And obviously we're seeing like he hasn't been able to

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Speaker 1: back to the beginning question, do you think Phil, like

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Speaker 1: what do you do? You're so we say, kid, you

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Speaker 1: keep mellow, I keep mellow, and you get rid of fill,

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Speaker 1: you get rid of feeling, you can build like mellow.

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Speaker 1: late that for singing, I'm saying big fellow KP has

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Speaker 1: it's a cup tough name to get out. Yeah, it

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Speaker 1: took me. It's the whole season to get it round.

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Speaker 1: So dude, her name Gomez and the other guy is

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Speaker 1: So anyway, KP, go ahead. Well, I think Mellow is

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Speaker 1: to pick the talent to fit into that. But all

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Speaker 1: that now? But who could be the man on that team?

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Speaker 1: Because I don't think you don't think you need a

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Speaker 1: You need guys who know how to play that go

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Speaker 1: out and compete on both ends of the floor, that

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Speaker 1: know how to play the game, understand the game of basketball.

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Speaker 1: You need a head coach that people respect. Do you

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Speaker 1: think they respect corners? That's not a chance. Why who

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Speaker 1: is Jeff Wanners playing the league? Wasn't a respect factor.

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Speaker 1: Then what I'm saying, like he played in the league,

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Speaker 1: he was a good player. But is it just the

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Speaker 1: disposition as opposed because there's been not good player Derek

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Speaker 1: Fisher wasn't a good Let's started there with Derek Fisher

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Speaker 1: being a coach, Like you can't get done playing and

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Speaker 1: your next year you in the locker room trying to

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Speaker 1: control j R. Smith A, Mari Stardomer, Carmelo, Anthony, Imon Schampert. Right,

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Speaker 1: saying like you was lucky you you played with Kobe

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Speaker 1: of it plays a factor, because there's been other players

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Speaker 1: Tylu like it's not like but but there's Abo and

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Speaker 1: he assistant coach. He was on the dock. There's a

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Speaker 1: so that he might know what he's talking about. But

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Speaker 1: you bring Derek Fishing in there day one. He never

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Speaker 1: been a head coach. Ain't never been the locker room

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Speaker 1: and have to sit up in front of a team

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Speaker 1: and talking gains and different skill sets, a different skill set.

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Speaker 1: But we our brains as programmed as players. Until you

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Speaker 1: have to be a coach, right, I got you, until

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Speaker 1: you have to And most guys, like you said, they

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Speaker 1: was a little bit of a mess. But he but

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Speaker 1: he was lucky he had vets so he didn't have

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Speaker 1: time to us and it takes and like I said, Jake,

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Speaker 1: he was luck he had KG. Yeah, Paul, he had

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Speaker 1: so they didn't have to guard and really coached them right,

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Speaker 1: And guys looked at him and that's kid. You know

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Speaker 1: so I know what he needs to work on, he

424
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Speaker 1: does well and all that. So but for him, like

425
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Speaker 1: the Toughness party, he displays it in a way. That

426
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Speaker 1: way he let people know I ain't gonna take no,

427
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Speaker 1: I ain't gonna take that niher. He displays it in

428
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Speaker 1: a way sometimes I have to tell, hey, calm down,

429
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Speaker 1: I'm saying, because he don't want nobody to push over

430
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Speaker 1: and look at him as suburban kids my son like.

431
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Speaker 1: So therefore he has it like he cared about when

432
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Speaker 1: they cared about losing. Ain't taking no stuff out there

433
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Speaker 1: from nobody. And I appreciate that. I love it, I'm saying.

434
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Speaker 1: So it's like, um, we was at um at this

435
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Speaker 1: game a few weeks ago, um at Crespy and this people.

436
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:09,200
Speaker 1: All these schools l A school schools, the elite schools.

437
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Speaker 1: Crespy is a is a private school. These are all

438
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Speaker 1: basketball schools. Out in the l A area. So you know, yeah, so, um,

439
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: so they're playing crespy my my son and having a

440
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Speaker 1: good game. They win, and this that in the third

441
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Speaker 1: Um actually, I'm lyine. It was Notre Dame. It was

442
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Speaker 1: it was kind of dame. So we're playing and whatnot.

443
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Speaker 1: That's the difference. So we're playing. So it was a

444
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Speaker 1: little skirmishing my son right in the middle of here.

445
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Speaker 1: They got the attitude during the course of the games

446
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Speaker 1: and getting got fired a few times. They didn't call it,

447
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Speaker 1: so he was showing that he was he was unhappy

448
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Speaker 1: with the situation. So guy sitting to my left a

449
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Speaker 1: couple of rolls back, like they're doing the altercation. Number

450
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Speaker 1: four is a head case talking about your son. That's

451
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Speaker 1: the wrong guy. So what did you do? I turned around,

452
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Speaker 1: like what number? You said? Here? Oh yeah before it's

453
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Speaker 1: a head case. I said, say them words again and

454
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Speaker 1: I'll show you what the head case is. You want

455
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Speaker 1: to know where the head case is? Say it again.

456
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:11,679
Speaker 1: And then what he says, he's trying to backtrack it.

457
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Speaker 1: Now you're trying to backtrack the state yow, trying to yo.

458
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Speaker 1: Now you're trying to backtrack. Now you're trying to I

459
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Speaker 1: didn't first already know you could hear me then and

460
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Speaker 1: then it's like, oh, well, I'm sorry, I didn't know

461
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,280
Speaker 1: that was your kid. Well, the first you shouldn't be

462
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:26,679
Speaker 1: saying that about no kids, whether it's my kid or not.

463
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Speaker 1: So now you're trying to back I'm so now you

464
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Speaker 1: get ignored. Now, so I'm chicky with she s trying.

465
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, baby, this ain't got nothing to do with you.

466
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Speaker 1: Got something like just let them worris come out your

467
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Speaker 1: mouth again and I will show you what the head

468
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Speaker 1: case he trying to get off the touching. Now I'm like, no, no, no,

469
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Speaker 1: let them words come out your mouth again, and it's

470
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Speaker 1: gonna take more than this game security here to get

471
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Speaker 1: me off your asses, like he So after the game,

472
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Speaker 1: you come over, though I'm not paying attention with whatever going.

473
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Speaker 1: He come up behind me, trying to. I look, soil was,

474
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Speaker 1: so what are you gonna do? What are you gonna

475
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Speaker 1: do in the future, because the more your son is

476
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Speaker 1: hopefully not gonna with successful and healthy and he goes

477
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Speaker 1: up the ladder, there's more fans. Yeah, I get it,

478
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: I get it, learning thing for you. But yeah, but

479
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Speaker 1: I didn't heard it all in the stands. But I'm saying,

480
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 1: but it's different when it's your son, right, roofers, he's

481
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,360
Speaker 1: also a six year old boy. Right, definite learning process.

482
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: He's sort of free free, it's sort of free game.

483
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,480
Speaker 1: He's college and but how are you gonna deal with that?

484
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,760
Speaker 1: A learning process with everybody either going on my headphones

485
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Speaker 1: on or something. I don't know, But it's definitely learning process, man.

486
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Speaker 1: And just being a Windom and me Karen and like

487
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 1: doing the course of the game, like foules and stuff

488
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: being called and all that. It all plays a factor, man,

489
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Speaker 1: for me being known as hotheaded or well outspoke, whatever

490
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Speaker 1: you want to classify the as for me to be

491
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Speaker 1: able to sit in the stands and not lose my

492
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Speaker 1: marbles and that joint. Let's say you're let's say you're

493
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Speaker 1: guy gets into a Kevin Durant into that and he

494
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Speaker 1: goes back to Okay, see you can't go to that game,

495
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Speaker 1: you you particularly? How Yeah? Yeah, no, I definitely couldn't

496
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Speaker 1: because some of the things that people excuse, some of

497
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Speaker 1: the things that people say, and they just take it

498
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Speaker 1: over the lines, right right, And I think it's like

499
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Speaker 1: an event almost, It's like it's not even see it's

500
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Speaker 1: almost like it's like a parade of hate. Yeah, Like

501
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Speaker 1: it's like you like I can take all of you,

502
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Speaker 1: sucking all of them type of things. But then you

503
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Speaker 1: started like people start a crossing the line. And for

504
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Speaker 1: him to say, my son is a headcase, I'm like,

505
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Speaker 1: I got you. Now you want to see one. I

506
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Speaker 1: got you, I got hey. I can definitely show you

507
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Speaker 1: bet and I can tell you I got you. I'm

508
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Speaker 1: you won't. I can he one thing everybody know about me,

509
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 1: I'm confrontational, right, I don't bother nobody, but I'm confrontational man,

510
00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,959
Speaker 1: no doubt I'm gonna finishing you started. I will I

511
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,600
Speaker 1: will finish, no doubt. You had that vibe in the

512
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: league so much that no one even really, no one

513
00:25:53,080 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: even really. I think you just had that that essence

514
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Speaker 1: as soon as you got into the league because people

515
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Speaker 1: knew like like for me all the like to just

516
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Speaker 1: say the like the latest incident with like Oklahoma City

517
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Speaker 1: and um um stay the other day altercation and all

518
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Speaker 1: that walking up on me head. But I'm gonna punch

519
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Speaker 1: right walk up on me. With your many actual fights

520
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Speaker 1: in the league, where was you wait, were you at

521
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Speaker 1: the garden. I was on the team Denver in the suit.

522
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: I didn't like that on the team in the suit.

523
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Speaker 1: Had I had a uniform on that day or you'd

524
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Speaker 1: like that incident because I was cleaned house. You know,

525
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Speaker 1: I would have cleaned house in there, like people hitt

526
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Speaker 1: me out of the game, was you there? I'm like, yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: had I stepped on the court in the suit right there,

528
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Speaker 1: would kick me out the leaf. It would have been

529
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Speaker 1: bad for me, my reputation at that point. They would

530
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Speaker 1: kick me out the leafever, right, because that was that

531
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 1: was one of the last sort of yeah, that's the game.

532
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: Fifteen games. You know what though? And Melos, my dude,

533
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Speaker 1: and I've always stood by when he was on Denver,

534
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Speaker 1: I was like, yo, why are you? First of all,

535
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Speaker 1: you're not in the incident. Second all that was like, yo,

536
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Speaker 1: you're that was a sucker punch. And then when the

537
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Speaker 1: shortest dude on the court back to all the way

538
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: up like yo, right running away from Nate Robinson, Well,

539
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: my thing is sucker punch. I for god see you

540
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 1: walking towards him. It ain't no sucker punch. We sent

541
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,119
Speaker 1: it right in front of Marty Collins. But I was

542
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: punch more. No, he just wing around. No, but he

543
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 1: was looking at him. He dropped him. But like it

544
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: was like Mello had nothing to do. I mean, but

545
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: it was what was you looking vix nuggets? Here was that?

546
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: So it was what it was. We was being the

547
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: brakes off the Knicks. He was being the brakes off.

548
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: Isaiah Thomas was the coach. Yes, George carl still had

549
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: mellow on him in the game, right, and Isaiah old

550
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,640
Speaker 1: school Isaiah was like, I don't go to the basket, right,

551
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 1: you put guys in. Don't go to the basket because

552
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,199
Speaker 1: they be in the game. The breaks off of him.

553
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 1: So he felt the way, so he put guys in

554
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:10,680
Speaker 1: the game. And when I'm found j R. They found Jr.

555
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,879
Speaker 1: Think and it's spilled over. So you guys, all right,

556
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,800
Speaker 1: I was just knicks. I hated that now. No, Now,

557
00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: going back to all the way back to melow and

558
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 1: and Denver and and the j R. Smith of it all,

559
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: what was that team like? Like, did you guys get

560
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,880
Speaker 1: along that? We were fun? Man? We got along. That's

561
00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 1: the thing. I think we got along too well. Okay,

562
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: we're all too much alike. Okay, I think we got

563
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 1: along too well. That was the thing. And because we

564
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,440
Speaker 1: had our certain like we had our guys like we

565
00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: never saw and we never saw guys like Earl Boykins, right,

566
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: but the core guys who like we enjoyed it man

567
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: like on the court and like me, well, we showed

568
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: up through our job. We played like when the game day,

569
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: we didn't show up ready to play, but we enjoyed

570
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: it man on and off the court. And that's probably

571
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna said that was the reason that we

572
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: didn't win all that because we was We made the

573
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: playoffs every year. Man, we Western Conference finals rights the Lakers.

574
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 1: We threw the ball away twice out of bounce plays

575
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,959
Speaker 1: when coaching, we ain't got out of bounce plays were right,

576
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: melog pop. The Lakers knew it. They denied him. Anthony

577
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: Carter threw the ball away one game. I threw the

578
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: ball to get the way the next game, same play,

579
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: Melow trying to pop, they denied him. We ain't got

580
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: no time out heating over the line about to fall

581
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: in right right, right right right, because they knew we

582
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 1: didn't have right. They knew that, And that's the Phil

583
00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: Jackson scout, that's coaching. Listen, melog pop to get the

584
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: ball denying right, that's it, That's all it was. And

585
00:29:44,400 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: we threw the ball away twice. You're playing against Kobe

586
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: and his prime house. How great was Kobe? Man? He's

587
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: are since our generation probably the best to do it,

588
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: man could be the best and not arguably the best

589
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: to do it in no generation. And how much of

590
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,680
Speaker 1: focus on the team is it? Like Kobe, Kobe? Stop Kobe,

591
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: He's he's he's he's the one, like he makes that

592
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: go And to what we started doing in Denver after

593
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: a while, Like I just got tired of George. I

594
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 1: heard just letting these guys like Kobe, he's a score,

595
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: that's what he's been the year in, year out. So

596
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:21,800
Speaker 1: we got this game playing. Man. I just got tired

597
00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: of him man, just letting him pay one on one.

598
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: So I just got to the point where he gets

599
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,440
Speaker 1: the ball, I just run at him and you're not

600
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 1: even guarding him. I'm not, I just double teaming. They

601
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 1: can throw the ball to somebody else. So after the game,

602
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 1: George want to come back us at half. That's a

603
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,960
Speaker 1: good idea. We need to start doing that more. Like

604
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: why y'all didn't come up with this? Like why I

605
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: gotta like because I'm tired of seeing this man play

606
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: one on one and busting our guys. Ass like he's great,

607
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 1: Like he I heard torturing us. Run at him do

608
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,719
Speaker 1: something different, man, But we're giving him a steady diet

609
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 1: day in day out of the same medicine. He immune

610
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: to it, right, you gotta switch it up, man. So

611
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: that's my thing about like he assassin man like he

612
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,600
Speaker 1: just because everything that he does is a move. Cut

613
00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: him off, like like most people work on counters, just

614
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: to be working on counters. Like everything Kobe do is

615
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: deliberate and there's a move. Like if he goes right,

616
00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 1: he's going right. If you cut him off, he has

617
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 1: a counter for that. And he has a counter for

618
00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: if you cut that off, he has account for that.

619
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 1: So everything is incinctive with him, Like his instincts is crazy.

620
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: Like he just to run the play on the sideline

621
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 1: where Kobe would throw it up to the other guard

622
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 1: and get a handback and he come off the little

623
00:31:40,120 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: picking roll, So we uhoul to switch it. Kobe came

624
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:45,320
Speaker 1: off one day, he going up to shoot it off,

625
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: the off, the off, the little toss back. I'm all

626
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 1: over the top of it. I'm getting ready to block it.

627
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: I'm he shot the thing off the glass with his

628
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: left hand. Are you serious? Tap me on my ass?

629
00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: I said, hey, man, don't do that no more. Man.

630
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Speaker 1: Know what I'm saying? That like that kind of thing,

631
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Speaker 1: right that that makes them makes them great. The I

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Speaker 1: Forward Slash gamer Tag The top five players that you

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Speaker 1: were never teammates win that you played against during your career?

656
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: Who were the top five players you're you're making you

657
00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 1: never know teammates? So you were never teammate with Kobe, right,

658
00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: all right? So so if you're doing your top five,

659
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: these are the best guys you ever played against, and

660
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: you gotta do a lineup, Tim Kobe um kg uh

661
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,239
Speaker 1: definitely them three. Tracy McGrady and his prime and his

662
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: prime he was ridiculous. Um he just a flat out

663
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: score man. Him events was tough. M Ray Allen shooting guard,

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Speaker 1: Kobe Ray, Tim kg who's your point. Never a teammate,

665
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: Never a teammate. Ah, probably real Brandon. Really yeah, somebody

666
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: that's real Brandon. Now you mentioned KG. I always love

667
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: KG as a competitor. Now he's always out there talking

668
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: the whole game. I don't know if he's talking to

669
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,840
Speaker 1: himself talking to other players. What is he saying? And

670
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 1: what do he talked to you? Okay, he didn't say

671
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: nothing to you? What give me? Give me a KG story?

672
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: Because I'm always like KG, you're talking and then and

673
00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: then when it got to the next level, you're not talking.

674
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 1: You're talking and walking. And I'm not saying like you

675
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: gotta be a fighter. This is your basketball players. But

676
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: I feel like if he could punk you, he would

677
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:08,880
Speaker 1: from there. Of course, that's that's anything in life. Um,

678
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 1: you know what the porch puppy is, right, yes? Like

679
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: for the people that don't know what the porch puppy

680
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 1: is like becauld you ever go by somebody else and

681
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: they got a little dog on the porch that just

682
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,080
Speaker 1: all he does is yap, just barking, just uncontrolled. Everybody

683
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:26,160
Speaker 1: that walked by he barks. He's in the window, He's

684
00:35:26,200 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 1: just barking, barking behind the screen, just barking, open the

685
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 1: screen up, open the gate up and list somebody. He's

686
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: not a guard dog. He's right like I like Kju

687
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 1: like man. But like for people who you know, wasn't

688
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 1: going for that, Like I ain't going for none of

689
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: them talking out here right like you ain't gonna be disrespectful.

690
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: I hear to me, like, now we're gonna get it,

691
00:35:51,320 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: like we like. So we were playing in Boston, Um

692
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 1: was with the Nuggets and Paul Pierce and m Dante

693
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: Jones had something kind of beef for a lot of

694
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 1: people beat with Dante over the years because Dante listened.

695
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:10,440
Speaker 1: Dante played basketball in different aspects. Tell a trip, you

696
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: tell your dude, you do all anything legally do to

697
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 1: the game. So him and he brings it on himself

698
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,680
Speaker 1: a little bit, and so him and Paul get into it.

699
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: They got this thing going or whatever the case. Maybe

700
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: they barking doing the going into the time out. They barking, barkin,

701
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: barkain and KG comes over there. Actly he's gonna get involved.

702
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: So you want to get involved. Guess what I'm gonna

703
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 1: get involved. So you say what, you better walk your

704
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: ass and your huddle and get him over here. You can't.

705
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 1: You cut right to the point. Better get your ass moving,

706
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: walk to your huddle. Ain't I came up? Just keep

707
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:48,800
Speaker 1: playing hard or just keep playing hard? And you say

708
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 1: there's nothing else to be saying that it was? It

709
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 1: was very clear what it was. Yeah, Like, I'm like

710
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: I told you, I want problems. I'm not gonna shot

711
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,960
Speaker 1: away from it. Don't who you are? You want you?

712
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: I want all. Actually I'm saying listen like I ain't

713
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Speaker 1: gonna start it like I'm listening, man, I'm not gonna

714
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,800
Speaker 1: start it, but I won't all. Actually I'm listening. I'm physical,

715
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: I'm confrontational man, like, I ain't got no problem mixing

716
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: it up. Whether it's just gonna be basketball, we can

717
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 1: keep it basketball, and we can play as hard as

718
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 1: we can go to the line, to the limits they

719
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 1: allow us to play. You want to take it over,

720
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 1: we can go. Listen. I tell people all the time, Listen,

721
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 1: I bring my ignorant man with me out every time

722
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: I leave home. I don't never leave my ignorant part

723
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,759
Speaker 1: of me at home, never hand in the forefront. But

724
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't never leave home without it. What

725
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: was he ever in the four when you were younger.

726
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 1: Is he more in the forefront? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. Man,

727
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:45,799
Speaker 1: I've had to learn that I can't put my hands

728
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: on the everybody. Like my four years in college, Man,

729
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: I had to fight with somebody every year on my team. Man,

730
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: on your team. Every year, I put my hands on

731
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: somebody at Bob Huggin's practice every year. I like it.

732
00:37:57,640 --> 00:37:59,759
Speaker 1: Every year I put my hands on somebody. Man. Who

733
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 1: were of players in the league that you sort of

734
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 1: respected that had that same disposition because because game recognized

735
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: this game, so you guys are just gonna play, they

736
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: stackhouse tough guy. I think Zack Randolph had the same

737
00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 1: rather deposition out there that people didn't mess with. Um

738
00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: Stephen Jackson. Jack was one of them. Who Now there's

739
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,440
Speaker 1: other dudes that are nerds. I say nerds, and I

740
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 1: don't mean that in a disrespect because I listen the

741
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: person that people want to try. People don look at

742
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 1: him in that aspect. It's Kobe, Like Kobell fight you, right,

743
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: like Kobe will fight like all the basketball skills and

744
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 1: greatness and all that, Kobe a knuckle up with you.

745
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: What I'm saying, that's like, that's the beauty of it.

746
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: Like all that said, and you want to cross the

747
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: line on him, he gonna go there with you. He

748
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: didn't care. He didn't care. Now Chris Child's caught him

749
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:51,640
Speaker 1: with a two piecenge. He didn't back down though. I'm

750
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: saying it's close range. He was in close proximity. That's

751
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 1: my whole thing, Like, if we're gonna get it, we're

752
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: not gonna be o arg and talking. I'm gonna bunch

753
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: in your Let's see what Let's see your reaction to it.

754
00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: But Kobe had that. Kobe was ready to go with

755
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 1: him and um with Chris got into it. On the side,

756
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: they're choking out, choking to each other out on the

757
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: on the scores table, right, I'm like, he'ing afraid to

758
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: mix it up him. Yeah, they ain't afraid to mix

759
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 1: it up. Man. Now you mentioned on your on your

760
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: old not teammate team, like something, a guy who just

761
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: seems like he done even like the disposition other than

762
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 1: the fact that he's seven feet never even like the

763
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: way he talked, the way he walked, the way he

764
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 1: carried himself even on the court. But if you even

765
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 1: like I came across from a few times off a

766
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: basketball courts like this guy is just like swimming through life,

767
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan. He's just a basketball player. But bust your

768
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 1: But what made him so great? What was so great

769
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: about him? Because he played at his speed. You couldn't

770
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: you couldn't speed him up down like you couldn't get

771
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: on this skin. Like you couldn't speed him up, You

772
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 1: couldn't frustrate him, like all the stuff that I would

773
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,719
Speaker 1: be able to do to people, like just doing the

774
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: course of the game, me constantly bumping you hold and

775
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: you're grabbing your arm. Nothing made any difference. It didn't

776
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 1: matter to him, no matter what I did, no matter

777
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:05,439
Speaker 1: what nobody doing the course of the game. Business at hand,

778
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,640
Speaker 1: he's not paying attention business at hand Like this is

779
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,560
Speaker 1: like back in the day, him at kg kg all

780
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 1: right next to him, lips all on his on his ear,

781
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: the Duncan, I remember what smiling at like, what are

782
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: you doing? It don't matter. I guess what I'm gonna

783
00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: go out hand business at hand right, And it doesn't

784
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: mean he's soft. He's just like he's not. He's just

785
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,839
Speaker 1: like here to play boy and win. I'm out here

786
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,280
Speaker 1: to win championship, to win this game and win champion

787
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna score thirty, I'm gonna get twenty seven

788
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: and five and we're winning the game. We're gonna win

789
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 1: the game, and we got a shot everydoy to win

790
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: a championship. Who so so so going back to the

791
00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: Denver days, which I could say the big Wild three,

792
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: you j R. And Mellow, then you bring in the

793
00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:53,600
Speaker 1: X factor of all X factors, Well, he's still sort

794
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 1: of in his prime. But there was so much sort

795
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 1: of like by the time Alan Iverson got traded, it

796
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 1: was such a craziness around his personal life. There was

797
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: such a craziness around how he was being being viewed

798
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:09,400
Speaker 1: in Philly. What was Allen Iverson like in Denver? What

799
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: is the realities of playing with Allen Iverson? Talking about

800
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,839
Speaker 1: the beauty of Allen Iverson and and just just like

801
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,400
Speaker 1: what that was like at that time. It was a plus. Man.

802
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,160
Speaker 1: It was a few things I never thought I'd get

803
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:21,359
Speaker 1: to do in my career, and a lot of them

804
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: happening earlier, like well with me playing on the team

805
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: with j K for one, playing on team with Alan Iverson,

806
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 1: never thought something like that would be feasible, man. But

807
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:34,600
Speaker 1: when he got the Denver that it was like, I like,

808
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 1: it's my guy. Like we was cool before he got

809
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 1: the Denver and when he got there, it was it

810
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: was it was like the Beatles Man, like we all

811
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: had our own following, but then when he got there,

812
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: it just took our notoriety as a team to the

813
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: star factor. Star factor when you're on the road. Yes,

814
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: like like like the beatles Man. Like it was really

815
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: like the Beatles Like we couldn't go nowhere like we

816
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: all had, like we had to travel a certain way.

817
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: Like it was, it was changed up. Everything changed up

818
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:10,080
Speaker 1: like we were. It was we were rock stars before

819
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: he got there, and we got there, we became Paul

820
00:42:14,239 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: McCartney and it took us so we all it was

821
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 1: like it was that much more attention on us. And

822
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: we still we went out and played and competed, but

823
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 1: we still didn't have that complete team that we needed

824
00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 1: in order to compete in the West. We had talent,

825
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 1: like I said we had, we had talent. We had

826
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: two of the top five scores in the league on

827
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: one team. Wow, I'm saying we had markets came rebound

828
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,760
Speaker 1: the ball, but it just wasn't we were We didn't

829
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: know how to how to win you to speak as

830
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: a team and what is uh like the misconceptions about

831
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: because I always felt like Alan, you know, when he

832
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 1: got to Denver, I felt like, you know, as a basketbplayer,

833
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 1: he was a little bit humbled in terms like he

834
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 1: wanted to show I do pass the ball? You know,

835
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 1: he's obviously his m v P here was beautiful, Like

836
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,919
Speaker 1: like did you feel like, I mean, you got dudes

837
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:05,879
Speaker 1: it between Ai Mellow Jr. That's not even you. These

838
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: guys like to bang the rock like you're a big guy,

839
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: you don't you don't have you need to get the

840
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 1: ball or go get the ball. Was it hard to

841
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: play with these dudes? You know in terms of a

842
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:19,399
Speaker 1: basketball since is it too much banging the rock at times? Yeah,

843
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 1: it's it's definitely the bardy to move freely. Right, But

844
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:27,839
Speaker 1: you understand what those guys have Ai before Mellow and

845
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:31,319
Speaker 1: Mellow since he's been in Denver before Hey I got there.

846
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,280
Speaker 1: What they have been, right, scores, volume shooters, volume scores,

847
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: and that's what it is you need, Like when he

848
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: I was with Philly, that's what they needed from him.

849
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: It was beautiful. They needed that and they didn't have

850
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:52,680
Speaker 1: a chance of hell that winning without that, I think, well,

851
00:43:52,719 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: we had enough in Denver before AI and with a

852
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: they didn't have to do that. They didn't have to

853
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: be that that I gotta score thirty every night for

854
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: us to have a chance. We had enough guys that

855
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: we could have got it done. So it takes a

856
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: strong coach with people respect to be able to reel

857
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 1: that in and be like, this is the way we're

858
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,359
Speaker 1: gonna play this the way it has to be done

859
00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 1: for us to be successful. And we didn't have that,

860
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:24,320
Speaker 1: And George Carl was a coach then now. I'm not

861
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: even gonna get into the George called book thing then now,

862
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: but like George called his numbers are like, yo, this

863
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:32,040
Speaker 1: is a great coach. He's been around the game for you.

864
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: But as far as like when you were actually playing

865
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 1: forget the personal stuff that happened basketball, but what what

866
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 1: was because you played for some really good coaches. So

867
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 1: this is all basketball, man. This is like not working

868
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,319
Speaker 1: on end the game situations time score, situation that every

869
00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 1: other team works on, Like you down a certain amount

870
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 1: of points, time score, Like what you're gonna do in

871
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 1: this situation? What you going doing that situation? Out of

872
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: bounce plays we're gonna do the defense. How are we

873
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: gonna scheming? Miss? How are we gonna do that? At?

874
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 1: Everything with George was just play fast, shoot the ball fast.

875
00:45:05,560 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: That was it. That was it. That was the gist

876
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:09,760
Speaker 1: of it. Yeah, I say, and and that that doesn't

877
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: translate and too winning basketball? Right? But how does he

878
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: blessed with great talent? Man? Just think it stops Gary Payton,

879
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:27,120
Speaker 1: Sean Kemp dealing shrimp, Sam Perkins, Nate McMillan, um, that

880
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 1: team right, then you go, you got Ray Allen, big dog.

881
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Um, Anthony Mason got arrested. Soul well mean

882
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: jonath Tony coo, coach lead there come to us, mellow

883
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,919
Speaker 1: myself Jr. Like you've been blessed. You've the next level

884
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 1: he didn't have. You never wanted. And that's and there's

885
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: a reason for that. Right. It ain't just because of

886
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,880
Speaker 1: the people you're playing against, because you ran up against

887
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, you ran up. No, it ain't because of that,

888
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 1: you ran up against Covid. No, it ain't just that.

889
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: It's more now this thing that happened with him, George

890
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: Carr put out a but I don't know if it's

891
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,160
Speaker 1: out or something out and and you know he was

892
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: sort of killing so many dudes and insulted so many

893
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:13,880
Speaker 1: one of the most as far as media press, you know,

894
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 1: dudes talking greasy, insulting me personally. I grew up where

895
00:46:18,840 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 1: posse was a word where it's like the stuff that

896
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,319
Speaker 1: he said about you, did you know it was coming? When?

897
00:46:25,360 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 1: When did you find out about it? And like he

898
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 1: had talked so like it was so disrespectful, and it

899
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: was so offensive and so cross the line. It was

900
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,640
Speaker 1: it was bigger than basketball. When did you find out

901
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: about it? I was on December. You remember the day

902
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,239
Speaker 1: because I was I was taking my daughter to a

903
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:49,760
Speaker 1: Disneyland for a second birthday. I was at the gas station.

904
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: Um Al Harrington text me. I was like, Yo, you

905
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,319
Speaker 1: see what George said? Like actually, like hell wrong with George? Car?

906
00:46:58,320 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: I'm like what we're just talking about? So he sent

907
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: me to a little snipping up. What what was it?

908
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:06,200
Speaker 1: I read it. I'm like, all right, Like I hit

909
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,200
Speaker 1: you back. So I got in the car. I had

910
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,600
Speaker 1: time to process. I get in the car and tell

911
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:11,879
Speaker 1: my wife, like what was going on? Because you see

912
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,239
Speaker 1: my face like what's wrong? I showed her what was said,

913
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:18,000
Speaker 1: so I got the time to ride because I live

914
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,640
Speaker 1: in calabas So we was going to Anaheim to go

915
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 1: to Disney. So I had that drive to think, like

916
00:47:24,520 --> 00:47:26,400
Speaker 1: that's wrong with this man. So when I got to Disney,

917
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: and that's when I started tweeting and what I'm saying,

918
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:35,640
Speaker 1: like like the nervoust man, it's he crossed the line

919
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:37,360
Speaker 1: with it, Like if it was just about basketball. You

920
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 1: don't like the way I approached the game of basketball.

921
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: I don't like the way you coach cool you the

922
00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,040
Speaker 1: first time, I ain't the last, what I'm saying. So

923
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 1: that's so that started it, right, Um, it just it

924
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:53,640
Speaker 1: was on cost but like there was no need for

925
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:57,040
Speaker 1: you to say none of those things, nothing across those lines.

926
00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: But when you feel like you first, like father, like

927
00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: that's why we acted, right, oh wow, like who are you?

928
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,880
Speaker 1: So I got a chance to get it off of

929
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 1: my chest a little bit. I didn't go in like

930
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: I wanted to because I knew stuffing's gonna come out

931
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: after that what I'm saying. But books, man, it's just him,

932
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: like he's just showing Georgia, showing the world what I

933
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:20,960
Speaker 1: already knew. You already knew that that like that's what

934
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 1: he's just showing everybody what I already saw from just

935
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: like he was done for six and a half years. Man,

936
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,920
Speaker 1: I played dinner for seven years. He was there for

937
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: six and a half of them seven years. So you

938
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 1: guys know each other, yeah, for the most part, even

939
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: the business for the most part essentially, like we look

940
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,359
Speaker 1: at it like basketball, but that's all it was, like

941
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 1: you never knew they never had and we never went

942
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: to dinner together. We never like none of the above.

943
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: So like when all that comes out, you're like, oh wow,

944
00:48:57,040 --> 00:49:01,279
Speaker 1: right right, so you just reading to it further, man,

945
00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: And it took a lot what I'm saying, But our

946
00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: relationship in Denver was like me and George had our

947
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: instances throughout the years, you know what I'm saying. It

948
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,360
Speaker 1: started like I mean, I played through pain throughout my

949
00:49:16,440 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 1: Denver career to micro fracture surgeries, tell us like all

950
00:49:21,120 --> 00:49:25,839
Speaker 1: kind of stuff Denver. I ain't complaining. I'm going out

951
00:49:25,840 --> 00:49:27,799
Speaker 1: there and playing. I'm trying to play like I don't

952
00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:30,680
Speaker 1: They're trying to put me on many restrictions. I'm going

953
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:33,040
Speaker 1: off on the trainers and like I want to hoop,

954
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: I want to play, and I didn't get I didn't

955
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,439
Speaker 1: have to have micro fractures. Sitting at home. I did

956
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: this plan for George, like I'm about to bust my

957
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: ass every day, like doing the stuff that I need

958
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 1: to do in order to try to play in the game,

959
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: which was important. So it's a few instances George or

960
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,720
Speaker 1: he don't like to practice well, the games are important,

961
00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: basicly on one leg doing what I'm so then all

962
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: like all this is coming out like this year, and

963
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 1: it's it's always something with him, always something, always something.

964
00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:08,040
Speaker 1: So it's spelled over like we played on we had

965
00:50:08,040 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: a playoff game, gets the Clippers here, and it's spilled over.

966
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: Man like me and George sat down. I'm a man,

967
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,239
Speaker 1: I sit down with him, have a conversation towards the

968
00:50:14,280 --> 00:50:15,520
Speaker 1: end of the year, like I'm gonna say out for

969
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: a few games, man, get ready for the playoffs, all right.

970
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 1: So we started Francisco Elson in my spot doing the

971
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: regular season. We're getting ready to play the Clippers first round.

972
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 1: Go to George like like I'm ready to rock, like

973
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:29,920
Speaker 1: playoffs getting ready to start. I made my name in

974
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 1: the playoffs. This is when I this is lights are brighter,

975
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: popcorn even fresher, let's go. Well, I'm gonna start Francisco

976
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:40,919
Speaker 1: else and again, don't want to reward him. Played well

977
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: huh no, I don't like that, but I show you

978
00:50:47,480 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 1: all right, cool start Francisco. Game one we lose. Go

979
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: to him before a game too, like, I'm well I

980
00:50:56,320 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 1: was game one. You're gonna change the line up back right, Ah,

981
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start Francisco again. So now you're messing with me.

982
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 1: Now you're now you're playing games. So game two start,

983
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: we're down. They put me in with like three and

984
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: some change to go in the first quarter, took me

985
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,640
Speaker 1: out with nine and some change to go in the

986
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,040
Speaker 1: second quarter. It's like six and a half seven game minutes.

987
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:31,480
Speaker 1: We're losing. I'm dumb competitive. Take me out Eddie. Now

988
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,960
Speaker 1: Ryan Greg bugging on the team man and played the

989
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,879
Speaker 1: same position it in the game buck buck a two guard.

990
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: Get Eddie. Huh. I'm over there like Scooby, do the work,

991
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:52,760
Speaker 1: Like what's going on? Man? Time going down? We're losing.

992
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm getting even more piste time going down. I'm three

993
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: minutes to at last minute, I was sitting on the

994
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: edge of my seat by the time I'm like this

995
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:11,759
Speaker 1: while the clock like so zero. I hop up. We

996
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:16,319
Speaker 1: first went off the bench, are going to back so

997
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,400
Speaker 1: and so and um at the statement CN of the

998
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: coaches have time meetings in the hall way. They do

999
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: their little meeting. Didn't come in the locker room, talk team,

1000
00:52:24,400 --> 00:52:27,239
Speaker 1: so team come in first, everybody to sit down. I

1001
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: wait like ten seconds or whatever. Hop up. Then a

1002
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:34,760
Speaker 1: little meeting in the hallway, George and in a little circle.

1003
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 1: I go right up to him. You fat mother, I

1004
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: kick you. I'm listening by this time. I'm I'm I'm

1005
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 1: You're gone gone, I'm going. I ain't even at the

1006
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: game no more. This is dignorant guy. He's he's there

1007
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:52,320
Speaker 1: in full of fact. Listen, full of fact. I'm all

1008
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: over and put my hand in face you fat, but

1009
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,320
Speaker 1: I kick yo. You playing with me there? Assistant coaches.

1010
00:52:58,320 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: Don't say nothing, don't say one word, don't don't step

1011
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: in away. Can you didn't say didn't say nothing. They

1012
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: wanted you to. They want so I get that off

1013
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: my chest. I go back in the locker room, threading

1014
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 1: everybody on the team. Y'all selfish, You ain't gon, never

1015
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: were nothing. No, if you feel a ways, say something.

1016
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: Nobody's nothing crickets. So by this time I'm sitting, so

1017
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 1: their coaches come there, they come in. I'm sitting with

1018
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 1: my back to everybody. I got my head in my locker.

1019
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: I'm a crying, like I'm shaking, crying because I want

1020
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:37,120
Speaker 1: to do something to this man. To George listen, I

1021
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: want to I want to beat him up. I wanted

1022
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: to listen to say God, I wanted to put my

1023
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: hands on drive. Had Latrell Spreewheeler never choked, p J

1024
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: car Listeno, I wout to beat George called up that

1025
00:53:50,080 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: you would have been the first guy hold to beat

1026
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: George up that day. Man, Kenyan, this is gonna be dope.

1027
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it. Brothereo pockets from a man kmart.

1028
00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: Two men and we've gotta go. Somebody else's coming in YO.

1029
00:54:03,480 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: This is just the beginning, at the beginning, alright, bet

1030
00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:11,640
Speaker 1: H