WEBVTT - 09/29/21 DPS Hour 2 Brian Kelly 0:00:00.640 --> 0:00:03.520 You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 0:00:03.520 --> 0:00:08.400 Sports Radio hour or two on this Wednesday. Spend a 0:00:08.400 --> 0:00:11.600 lot of time talking about the Patriots, Tom Brady coming 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.239 back to town, check in with the Fighting Irish and 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:18.040 Notre Dame. Brian Kelling will join us head coach. I 0:00:18.160 --> 0:00:21.640 got Cincinnati coming up. Brian used to coach at Cincinnati. 0:00:23.320 --> 0:00:26.200 Not exactly the same as Brady coming back to New England, 0:00:26.280 --> 0:00:28.320 but you know, we'll try to hype it as best 0:00:28.360 --> 0:00:31.520 weeken eight seven seven three d P show email address 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.280 DP at dan Patrick dot com, Twitter handle a DPS show. 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:37.240 We have a new poll question, I believe for hour 0:00:37.440 --> 0:00:40.880 two McLevin give the results of the first poll question 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.120 and the new one. If you could go back in 0:00:43.200 --> 0:00:45.640 time and be a beat reporter for one of these teams, 0:00:45.640 --> 0:00:50.120 which would be the Patriots, Cavaliers or SEC Football. Patriots 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:56.280 are seventy okay, thought provoking pole. Which of these quarterbacks 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:59.800 is most likely to end his career going wide or 0:01:00.240 --> 0:01:05.440 with the same team, Ben Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson or Matt Ryan. 0:01:07.120 --> 0:01:10.800 Ben Roethlisberg because he's not going to any place else. 0:01:11.920 --> 0:01:14.400 If you can't play in Pittsburgh, nobody is going to 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:20.000 take Ben Roethlisberger, Russell Wilson, I don't think ends his 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:25.640 career in Seattle. Matt Ryan, I'm gonna say he ends 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.920 his career in Atlanta. I thought that there was some 0:01:29.000 --> 0:01:32.479 doubt if they did take a quarterback, but I would 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.479 say Mattie Ice ends it in Atlanta and Big Ben. 0:01:35.720 --> 0:01:37.720 You know, I look back on what the Steelers could 0:01:37.720 --> 0:01:41.240 have done in the offseason. You don't like Mason Rudolph. 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:45.200 You're taking a flyer on Dwayne Haskins. Ben, you know, 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:47.440 was supposed to be new and improved and the Tom 0:01:47.480 --> 0:01:50.960 Brady TV twelve diet and pliability, and he shaved his 0:01:51.040 --> 0:01:54.280 beard and everybody went, god, Ben looks great. He looks 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.120 great because he doesn't look like he's in zz top anymore. 0:01:57.760 --> 0:02:01.920 I mean, he could be Chris Stapleton's doppelgang or the 0:02:01.960 --> 0:02:06.200 country singer like, come on, let's go man. He looks 0:02:06.280 --> 0:02:11.760 Raggy's in shape. He shaved his beard. Chris Stapleton probably 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:14.839 has more mobility than Ben does. Wow. But they could 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.880 they could have gotten Gardner Minshew. That's a sixth round 0:02:17.960 --> 0:02:22.400 draft pick. If you don't like Duck Devlin or Josh 0:02:22.600 --> 0:02:26.600 Dobbs or Dwayne Haskins or I mean, then why not 0:02:26.840 --> 0:02:31.840 get somebody, Get somebody who is a legitimate NFL quarterback 0:02:32.360 --> 0:02:35.799 just in case this doesn't work out. I mean, you're 0:02:35.840 --> 0:02:39.079 a playoff team from a year ago. I mean, it's 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:42.639 it's gonna be odd, it's gonna be awkward. If Ben 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:46.680 continues to spiral down, the offense doesn't do anything, then 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.799 they're gonna have decisions to make. Ben will have decision 0:02:50.840 --> 0:02:52.920 to make. Does he want to be a backup? Is 0:02:52.919 --> 0:02:54.720 he willing to be a backup? Is he willing to 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:57.040 be benched? Is there somebody you're going to put in 0:02:57.040 --> 0:03:01.600 who's so much better than Ben Roethlisberger. Everybody's overreacting to 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:03.799 the end is near for Ben. We know that I 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:07.240 wouldn't have brought him back this year, said that, but 0:03:07.480 --> 0:03:11.760 he's here. It's three games. Let me wait, you got 0:03:11.880 --> 0:03:14.840 three games coming up and then you have a bye week. 0:03:16.280 --> 0:03:18.520 I know that everybody looks back and goes, hey, they 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:21.679 want eleven in a row to start this season. Yes, yes, 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.080 and they almost beat Cleveland in a playoff game. I 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:26.920 got all of that. I wouldn't overreact to Ben to 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:30.160 the point where I go, who are we putting in there. 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.520 When do we plan the retirement ceremony? Like, let's just 0:03:34.840 --> 0:03:37.840 wait a little bit here and then maybe it's not 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.880 gonna work out. But why didn't you get Gardner Minshew 0:03:41.240 --> 0:03:45.240 sixth round draft pick? He can play, and he can 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:48.920 be a bridge quarterback and you can make the playoffs. 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:53.120 I believe with Gardner Minshew. But here you are ready 0:03:53.160 --> 0:03:58.080 to go. Let's move on from Ben Roethlisberger. Let me 0:03:58.240 --> 0:04:01.120 wait a little bit here, all right? So I would 0:04:01.120 --> 0:04:03.840 say Ben will end his career because he's not gonna 0:04:03.840 --> 0:04:06.400 play elsewhere. Yeah, Seaton, why aren't the Falcons any good? 0:04:06.880 --> 0:04:08.680 I don't know what is it? What is That's like 0:04:08.880 --> 0:04:13.040 one of the biggest mysteries to me in NFL history 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:15.960 is why twenty eight to three, Seaton? They aren't winning 0:04:16.480 --> 0:04:18.960 lots of games? Twenty eight to three? Because I was 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:21.040 starting to think, you're like dies, Mattie Ice finish his 0:04:21.080 --> 0:04:23.080 career there, and in my head I was thinking, no, 0:04:23.200 --> 0:04:25.120 you know what, he might want to pull a Tom Brady, 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:27.680 go someplace he can get some weapons around him, and 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.360 he get oh wait, that's Atlanta. Yeah, oh wait. He 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:33.320 kind of had that his whole career. Yeah. They drafted 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:38.039 Kyle Pitts. I mean, and I know I've said I 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.120 thought Atlanta could be one of those borderline playoff teams. 0:04:41.160 --> 0:04:43.839 I thought that they would be a lot more competitive 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.719 than people think. It's only three games. It's only three games, 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:50.240 three weeks. That's it. We're gonna look back in ten 0:04:50.279 --> 0:04:54.599 weeks and go, man, we thought that there'll be some crazy, 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.840 crazy declarations. They were already every week you gotta have 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:03.599 a hot take. But I would just let's let's slow 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:07.640 down just a little bit here. After three games. What 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:10.200 if the Buccaneers are two and two after four games? 0:05:10.320 --> 0:05:12.919 What if they lose to New England? How do people 0:05:12.960 --> 0:05:16.440 react to that? What if the Chiefs lose another game 0:05:17.360 --> 0:05:19.599 in the next couple of weeks, how are we going 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.400 to react to that? Vegas still says the Chiefs are 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:25.800 the favorites for the Super Bowl, followed by Tampa back 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:29.440 and that's right, that's correct, because let me see how 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.560 it plays out with the Rams be you know, let 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:35.560 me let me get ten games in, see how they play. 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:38.360 How healthy are they? How's the rest of the division. 0:05:39.880 --> 0:05:43.080 That's where you know, people don't handicap. Wait when this seat, 0:05:43.160 --> 0:05:47.000 before this season started, and people thought Aaron Rodgers, he's 0:05:47.000 --> 0:05:49.080 going to come back, he's gonna play, and he's on 0:05:49.160 --> 0:05:53.480 his redemption revenge tour, and that you're going to just 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:56.320 plug in thirteen wins. And I said, didnaybody look at 0:05:56.360 --> 0:06:00.840 the schedule like it's a tough schedule. And if they 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.560 won eleven, I think Vegas had them at ten or 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:10.120 eleven maybe at the most. It's hard, hard to win 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:14.400 those games, even Dallas in a bad division. Should they 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.839 win twelve games, probably or it's not out of the 0:06:18.839 --> 0:06:22.520 realm of possibilities in my opinion. Not a difficult schedule, 0:06:22.600 --> 0:06:27.400 not a difficult division. And you seem to have a 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.640 good enough offense to cover up what you may lack 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:36.320 on defense. But by the way, the Mike McCarthy calling 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:39.960 a time out clock management m Peyton Manning said this 0:06:40.080 --> 0:06:43.120 on Monday night where we're all watching and we're all 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.560 saying the same thing. Uh, Mike got a called time out, 0:06:46.720 --> 0:06:50.000 here's Peyton Manning. Dallas needs to call time out. I 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:51.800 don't think they if I don't know if Philly's got 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:57.160 to go for it or not? Right time out? Mike, know, yeah, 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.600 just thinking about it. Why someone in his ears you 0:07:00.680 --> 0:07:03.960 have like the clock management guy saying, hey, we can't 0:07:04.040 --> 0:07:06.120 call it here, it's not well. Last week they couldn't 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:08.159 see the clock with the chargers. They couldn't even see 0:07:08.160 --> 0:07:10.560 the clock. So maybe tonight they can't see it either. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:12.960 They are playing at home. But I guess they're gonna 0:07:12.960 --> 0:07:16.520 be happy with twenty to seven. Okay, it feels like 0:07:16.600 --> 0:07:18.880 Peyton and Eli made this a bigger deal. By the way, 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:21.560 does Peyton Manning sound a little bit like Jimmy Stewart 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.800 the Great actor? Could you give me a little bit? 0:07:26.920 --> 0:07:29.280 Mike needs to call it time out? Yea, yeah, yeah, 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:32.600 you gotta college a time. I'm there. I don't know 0:07:32.640 --> 0:07:35.240 what he's thinking. I don't I don't think. I don't 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:38.880 think he thinks that, ohmha. I don't think he thinks 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:41.080 the Eagles are gonna go for it. Dallas needs to 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.640 call time out. I don't think they probably don't know 0:07:43.640 --> 0:07:49.520 if Philly's gonna go for it or not right time out? Mike, Yeah, 0:07:49.720 --> 0:07:52.880 he's thinking about it. Why someone someone in his ears? 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.080 You have, like the clock management guy saying hey, we 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:58.160 can't call it here, it's not well. Last week they 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:00.320 couldn't see the clock with the chargers. They couldn't even 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:05.680 see the cloths. Well, I couldn't say so, so sorry, 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:18.400 what's the big idea, mister, mister potter. Oh all right, 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:24.040 here's Jerry Jones, the Cowboys owner, on Mike McCarthy's clock management. 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:27.760 Other teams have issues with clock management. That's part of 0:08:27.840 --> 0:08:31.920 the game, and so let's let's cut things some slack 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:36.040 and realize that if you do enough plays. We were 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:39.080 critical of Garrett when he was here, and don't you 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:43.200 think that goes with the territior. I know firsthand Mike's 0:08:43.240 --> 0:08:46.959 capability he saym have know how he approached it to 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:50.040 logic that he uses, and I'm not a bit concerned 0:08:50.040 --> 0:08:54.880 about his ability to manage a tight situation. I don't 0:08:54.880 --> 0:08:58.000 want to hear that other coaches or other teams have issue. 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:04.400 I only care about my coach. That's it. It's like 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:07.320 when your kid uses an excuse to say, well, somebody 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:10.600 else is allowed to do this, or they got in trouble, 0:09:10.720 --> 0:09:13.319 and then you'd always say, well, if somebody jumped off 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.120 a cliff, would you jump off a cliff? That My 0:09:15.120 --> 0:09:19.480 parents would always say that, yeah, if Steve Wolfe jumped 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.720 off a cliff, would you jump off a cliff? Wolf 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.880 was an issue yeah, he was ours was the brooklyn Bridge. Well, 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:29.240 if he jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge, would you go. Yeah. 0:09:29.360 --> 0:09:32.000 I don't care about anybody else's clock management. I care 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:35.480 about my coach and do I think it's a big issue. No, 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:38.720 But is it an issue when a game is on 0:09:38.760 --> 0:09:42.280 the line or time is winding down and it's only 0:09:42.320 --> 0:09:45.400 the first half. But it was at the end of 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:49.840 the game against the Chargers, I couldn't see the clock. Okay, 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:52.760 at what point do you say during the game when 0:09:52.800 --> 0:09:56.920 you're coaching, I can't see the clock. I need somebody 0:09:56.920 --> 0:10:00.840 to help me because you might say, look, my sightline 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:03.680 is not good with this new stadium. I need somebody 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.640 to keep me honest because we're watching that game when 0:10:06.640 --> 0:10:10.280 we're going mack. He just letting us tick down, tick down, 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.000 and then admitted afterwards I couldn't see the cluck. Yeah, Pully, 0:10:14.320 --> 0:10:16.880 it's possible. Jerry Jones is not familiar with the Green 0:10:16.880 --> 0:10:19.360 Bay Packers and Mike McCarthy's history of the clock management, 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:21.600 because any Packers ban listening right now, I will tell 0:10:21.640 --> 0:10:24.480 you that was one of the biggest chips against him 0:10:24.559 --> 0:10:26.360 during his time there. He had a bunch of those 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.240 back in the Green Bay day and it's really possible 0:10:28.280 --> 0:10:31.920 that you know, Jerry doesn't know. He doesn't watch a 0:10:31.920 --> 0:10:36.640 lot of Packers games on the side back in the day. Yeah, well, 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.240 to me it would be a big deal. I want 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.280 my coach to be you know, it's all about detail 0:10:42.720 --> 0:10:45.679 the NFL. When you coach is attention to detail because 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.559 the smallest thing will help you win or it can 0:10:48.600 --> 0:10:52.880 cost you. Again somewhere down the road, Age seven seven 0:10:52.920 --> 0:10:55.680 three D P show email ADDRESSDP at Dan Patrick dot com, 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:59.480 Twitter handle at DP show. By the way, the latest 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:02.800 episode of that scene. I talked with Bill Burr about 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.720 his role in the Star Wars series The Mandalorian and 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:11.880 fans push back because he had a Boston accent. Here's 0:11:11.920 --> 0:11:18.600 Bill Burr. I've gotten pretty much nothing but positive reviews. 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.360 I did get some crap about my accent with someone's 0:11:21.400 --> 0:11:23.880 like I've never heard of Boston accent and outer space 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:26.760 and I was just like, well, how about English. Doesn't 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.440 it seem weird that that you would travel that far 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.640 away from Earth and everyone's speaking English. C three po 0:11:31.760 --> 0:11:35.000 has an English accent? Say stop it. You just know 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:36.800 that that's where I'm from, because the reality is, I 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.040 don't have a Boston accent. I have a slight one, 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:41.760 but I have an East Coast sort of. But they're 0:11:41.800 --> 0:11:43.720 making it seem like I was, you know, out there 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:49.840 being like, you know, dude, grab your lightsaber. We talked 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:52.360 about a lot of things, including his approach to acting 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:56.480 and how different that is from stand up and you 0:11:56.520 --> 0:11:59.320 can check it out the entire interview Amazon dot com 0:11:59.320 --> 0:12:05.080 Slash that scene with Bill bur Fred in West Virginia. Hi, Fred, 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:08.320 what's on your mind today? Hey? DP, appreciate you guys 0:12:08.400 --> 0:12:12.120 taking my call. First time caller, a long time listener. 0:12:12.679 --> 0:12:15.360 I wanted to say a couple of things about Ben Roethlisberger. 0:12:16.120 --> 0:12:20.880 I agree with everything you said. Number one, I think 0:12:20.920 --> 0:12:28.120 that for years Ben has come in to the start 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:31.120 of the season not in shape, and it takes in 0:12:31.280 --> 0:12:36.400 three or four games to get in shape. Okay. Second one, 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:43.600 if he had taught me John surgery and I'm a 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.000 Steeler fan. I love Ben. I love the room. He's whatever. 0:12:47.480 --> 0:12:50.280 It sure doesn't look like his arm doesn't look much stronger, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:55.040 and when Narraiders were pounding the heck out of him, 0:12:56.320 --> 0:12:59.120 he looked terrible. I mean you could tell every hit 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:04.040 he got he felt. I'm not sure whether the Steelers 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:07.960 have done what they normally do, don't be wrong. A 0:13:08.080 --> 0:13:12.080 perfect organization, great organization, but I think he dropped the 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:14.440 ball with Ben here. I do too. I wouldn't have 0:13:14.440 --> 0:13:16.959 brought him back, but they brought him back at a discount, 0:13:17.520 --> 0:13:20.679 and for some reason, I guess they think or they 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:24.040 thought obviously that hey, we can make another playoff run. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.439 I just think with the number of quarterbacks who were available, 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:30.080 and then you took a running back and Naji Harris 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.160 might be turned out to be a very good running back, 0:13:33.160 --> 0:13:36.200 but he's a first round draft pick at that position. 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:39.840 Did you need a little more help on the offensive line. 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.440 Was there somebody there you could have gotten that would 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.560 have helped you. Ben cannot do this without a really 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:50.240 good offensive line. And I think that as much as 0:13:50.360 --> 0:13:55.160 we like that defense and they got playmakers there be 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:58.079 Ben is not moving. He's not moving around at all, 0:13:58.559 --> 0:14:01.400 not that he could, but he gets it out quickly 0:14:01.760 --> 0:14:05.240 there there. You know, their average yard per you know, 0:14:05.320 --> 0:14:08.200 per play is probably among the lowest as far as 0:14:08.200 --> 0:14:11.520 pass plays. It's very quick, and he he targeted Nag 0:14:11.679 --> 0:14:16.360 Harris I think seventeen times. That shouldn't be your go 0:14:16.520 --> 0:14:20.120 to guy unless you're just trying to have two yards, 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:23.520 three yards, five yards. Yes, mcgloban. Do you remember in 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.480 twenty nineteen they big bang got hurt and they went 0:14:26.520 --> 0:14:29.320 around and traded for Minca Fitzpatrick. They gave up. Yeah, 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:31.480 like they're like, we're not going to tank. He's bigger. 0:14:31.480 --> 0:14:34.040 They could have tanked that year and drafted a quarterback. Yeah, 0:14:34.040 --> 0:14:37.280 but Fitzpatrick who has been really good for them. But 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:40.080 you know, they thought they had magic last year. And 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.120 I think there are a lot of analysts who looked 0:14:42.120 --> 0:14:45.160 at the Steelers and said they're undefeated, but they're not invincible. 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.360 They're not a great team. But is that like when 0:14:47.400 --> 0:14:49.760 the Giants took sa kuon Barkleaves. I thought they could 0:14:49.760 --> 0:14:51.720 get one more run out of Eli. Yeah, like at 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:53.760 some point you got to start over a quarterback. I know, 0:14:53.920 --> 0:14:55.720 And I hey, I was all in on the Giant 0:14:55.760 --> 0:14:58.160 steak and say Quon because I thought, okay, that helps. 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:00.840 Elion got a safety valve. You got a team that 0:15:00.920 --> 0:15:02.960 looks like and they spent all that money on their defense. 0:15:03.120 --> 0:15:05.600 I thought, okay, there's some magic here. They might be 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.880 able to pull this off. Obviously it didn't go as scripted. Yes, 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.360 pointing how much could this be about loyalty? Tomlins got 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:13.280 a quarterback who's been there, and I know he won 0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:16.000 Super Bowls a long time ago, where Rothsburger has two. 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.120 If you remember the last few years of Dan Marino 0:15:18.280 --> 0:15:21.400 in South Florida, they should have moved on from Dan Marino, 0:15:21.440 --> 0:15:24.840 but he's a huge legend, a first ballot Hall of Famer, 0:15:25.280 --> 0:15:26.960 and that was back in the day when they didn't 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:31.520 replace guys. This is kind of anti Bill Belichick, anti 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:35.880 teams moving on. But that is a loyal franchise. You know, 0:15:35.920 --> 0:15:39.840 they've had what three head coaches, and maybe to a fault, 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:42.280 you know, the Giants to the same way. I thought 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:45.160 that they held on to Eli too long, loyal to 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:47.520 a fault and then you wake up and you go, 0:15:47.960 --> 0:15:50.040 now what do we do? And then you got to 0:15:50.080 --> 0:15:53.320 start over again. Those franchises aren't used to starting over, 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:58.200 you know, rebuilding, reloading. There's a big difference. Yeah, mclubbing. Yeah. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:16:00.440 Then you have guys like Kyle Shannon and I think 0:16:00.520 --> 0:16:03.040 famously want a new quarterback every six weeks. You know 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:06.960 John Gruden. Yeah, John Gruden's got Derek Carr playing at 0:16:07.000 --> 0:16:11.760 an MVP level, and John Gruden would probably say, Man, 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:14.080 I'd love to have Aaron Rodgers or I'd love to 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:18.200 have Kylerton. You know, no, John is never happy with 0:16:18.200 --> 0:16:20.760 the quarterback he has. It feels like and he's won, 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.160 he won the super Bowl. He didn't have a great 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.640 quarterback when he won the super Bowl. Yeah, it's gonna 0:16:25.640 --> 0:16:27.840 be interesting to see the options that you just mentioned Shanahan. 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:31.440 Garoppolo is having a nice season, but his future is 0:16:31.480 --> 0:16:33.880 not there. A team like the Steelers could pick him 0:16:33.920 --> 0:16:35.680 up for a what I don't know what a third 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.720 round draft choice, and he's not that terribly expensive. I 0:16:38.760 --> 0:16:43.840 remember talking to somebody who knows Sam Darnold, and I 0:16:43.880 --> 0:16:47.040 think he thought that Pittsburgh was a viable opportunity for 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:50.080 him because he could go there. If they didn't keep Ben, 0:16:50.480 --> 0:16:53.160 then you got somebody you can put in. And also 0:16:53.200 --> 0:16:56.440 if he was going to be the backup, because Ben 0:16:56.480 --> 0:16:59.720 would know that he had one more year. But you know, 0:16:59.760 --> 0:17:04.400 you go, hey Washington doesn't Dwayne Haskins, Let's take him. 0:17:05.760 --> 0:17:09.880 I still Gardner Minshew makes more sense, or at least 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.560 it's a sixth round draft pick for a guy that 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.960 I think would would keep you in playoff contention. If 0:17:16.000 --> 0:17:18.159 they would decide to go to the bench. All Right, 0:17:18.160 --> 0:17:20.359 we'll take a break. 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It's one of 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:16.640 those games where I went, man, it's pretty close. Then 0:19:16.640 --> 0:19:18.800 I walked away, did something else. I came back and 0:19:18.840 --> 0:19:21.680 I go, WHOA. This got out of hand quickly. Notre 0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:25.240 Dame will host Cincinnati on Saturday. With that when Brian 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:27.760 Kelly became the winning is head coach in Notre Dame 0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:32.240 history with win number one oh six, breaking the previous 0:19:32.280 --> 0:19:35.760 record held by Newton Rockety. The Hall of Famer Brian 0:19:35.840 --> 0:19:38.280 Kelly joining us on the program. How did you celebrate 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:45.879 that victory? Coach? Pumper traffic getting out of Chicago on 0:19:45.920 --> 0:19:51.320 our bus? You know it's and dip this pizza from 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:54.520 Chicago on the bus. So it was kind of neat 0:19:54.600 --> 0:19:56.960 because it took me back to my roots as a 0:19:57.040 --> 0:19:59.879 Division two head coach bus rides. You know, it's like 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.960 a Triple A baseball. We took the bus back from 0:20:03.040 --> 0:20:06.480 Chicago to South Bend and got a chance to be 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:09.440 on the bus with the guys, So it was real. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:12.119 It felt great to be able to celebrate it on 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:14.720 a bus ride back to South Bend with with your 0:20:14.720 --> 0:20:19.440 teammates and your coaches. Did how many times have you 0:20:19.520 --> 0:20:25.240 gone into a game not thinking you could win that game? Who? 0:20:25.840 --> 0:20:29.960 Not many? H You know, I've coached, you know, well 0:20:29.960 --> 0:20:34.159 over three hundred games, and I can't remember many that 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:36.639 I've gone in and said we have no chance of 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:40.800 winning this game. Um, maybe I could probably come on 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:46.280 my hand where I felt like it was that overwhelming 0:20:46.840 --> 0:20:50.919 odds against our football team, and and now, truth be told, 0:20:51.560 --> 0:20:55.000 there were probably way more many games than that. It's 0:20:55.040 --> 0:20:57.439 just I'm just not wired that way. I just go 0:20:57.600 --> 0:20:59.760 in thinking that we're going to find a way to win. 0:21:00.359 --> 0:21:03.200 But at Notre Dame, have you felt like that if 0:21:03.240 --> 0:21:05.320 it was a playoff game, did you think, oh my god, 0:21:05.880 --> 0:21:08.040 I don't I don't like her. Even though you want 0:21:08.040 --> 0:21:09.960 to win, you you coach to win, But is there 0:21:10.000 --> 0:21:12.159 in back of your mind you're like, I hope this 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:18.320 doesn't get out of hand. Um. Maybe in two thousand 0:21:18.359 --> 0:21:22.960 and twelve the Alabama Notre Dame National championship game, I 0:21:23.040 --> 0:21:25.960 knew we were in a you know, an uphill climb there. 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:30.400 We were only three years and into rebuilding the program here, 0:21:30.480 --> 0:21:33.880 and you know we got there quickly, uh with with 0:21:34.640 --> 0:21:38.359 playing for a championship, and you know that Alabama team 0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:42.840 was obviously one of the best in a long long time. 0:21:42.960 --> 0:21:45.040 That a lot of things would have had to gone 0:21:45.119 --> 0:21:47.440 right there. So that was probably the one time when 0:21:47.480 --> 0:21:49.760 I was at Notre Dame where I felt like, this 0:21:49.840 --> 0:21:52.240 is going to be an uphill climb. And it's almost 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.720 like you guys were ahead of schedule and you got 0:21:54.720 --> 0:21:58.920 to that national title game because you know, people talk about, Okay, 0:21:58.960 --> 0:22:02.000 can Notre Dame you know have the speed? You know, 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:05.080 can they can they match the offensive and defensive lines 0:22:05.080 --> 0:22:08.000 of SEC teams? And how do you how do you 0:22:08.000 --> 0:22:12.400 go out and try to establish that at Notre Dame. Well, 0:22:12.400 --> 0:22:15.480 we still have to recruit to our profile and so 0:22:15.920 --> 0:22:21.720 it's player development. Uh, it's it's the ability to recruit 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.640 to Notre Dame at a higher level than we had 0:22:24.680 --> 0:22:27.959 been recruiting up to that point, and then developing your 0:22:28.000 --> 0:22:30.639 players over a long period of time. And you know, 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:33.520 the last two drafts, we've had ten players drafted that's 0:22:33.520 --> 0:22:36.960 as high as Alabama and Ohio State, and that's where 0:22:37.000 --> 0:22:39.240 we need to be to have the kind of players 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:44.480 necessary to compete at that stage. So it wasn't three 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:46.880 years into it that we were having that kind of 0:22:46.920 --> 0:22:50.600 depth in drafts, and so we knew that we were 0:22:50.640 --> 0:22:54.120 there early, like you said, and it just requires more 0:22:54.200 --> 0:22:57.160 time in recruiting. Uh. And you've got to win, right, 0:22:57.240 --> 0:23:01.359