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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Welcome to the show. The band is back

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Speaker 1: together for a Thursday night exhibition of Texans activity and

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Speaker 1: stuff from around the NFL, and who knows what else

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Speaker 1: comes up. It's Texans Radio Mark VanderMeer with you with

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Speaker 1: John Harris, and because it's Thursday, it's the General John

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Speaker 1: McClain joining us, who is not at the NFL Annual

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Speaker 1: Meeting and greatly missed. I might say, General, because a

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Speaker 1: lot of your brethren are there, people that you know

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Speaker 1: from the league, and Johnny, I know you don't normally

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Speaker 1: go to these things either, so sorry about that. But

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Speaker 1: you were at the Combine without me, So this is

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Speaker 1: just revenge for this year only I guess.

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Speaker 2: I was at the Senior Bowl without you.

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Speaker 3: See, that's what it is. I understand the trade off.

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Speaker 3: As as Hannah told us in studio other day. I

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Speaker 3: get the Senior Bowl, you get the owner's meetings. It

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Speaker 3: just fits. You're a bougie.

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Speaker 2: I'm more Jankie's it fits. I'm a little bit bougie.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into Donnie and Marie. That's

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Speaker 1: very dated stuff. General, how's it going tonight?

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Speaker 4: Is going great? I'm uh. I watched watched, listen to

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Speaker 4: absolutely nothing ever gets accomplished, but a lot of people

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Speaker 4: get good interviews. It's amazing to me how many media

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Speaker 4: people around the country the only time their owners talk

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Speaker 4: all year is at those league meetings. And that's another

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Speaker 4: reason the Texans fans should be appreciative and Cal McNair

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Speaker 4: because they're always available. I'll bet you other than Jerry Jones,

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Speaker 4: who has a radio show every week and then of

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Speaker 4: course does a postgame, there can't be another owner more

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Speaker 4: available than the McNair's and I think the fans ought

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Speaker 4: to appreciate that. And I know all the media outlets

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Speaker 4: that went out there and you guys all had interviews

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Speaker 4: with Hannah and Cal, and it's the interviews. Coaches get

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Speaker 4: they have their pictures made. Clint Kobiak had his first

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Speaker 4: and I loved There was a great column on barstool

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Speaker 4: that was about every funny crack you could make about

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Speaker 4: almost every coach, from his clothes to his expression to

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Speaker 4: the way he sat Like poor Ol Jeff Afflee. He

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Speaker 4: was just sitting next to Rabel. Rabel had his legs spread,

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Speaker 4: his paws on his knees and you could barely see

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Speaker 4: Aft and it was funny. They had some great stuff

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Speaker 4: I used to love to watch them get in line

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Speaker 4: But it was really good interviews information coming out as

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Speaker 3: Not Jack Squat, yeah exactly, but general. I want to

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Speaker 3: ask you about something. In fact, Jay Glazer tweeted about

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Speaker 3: this or posted about it, whatever you want to call it.

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Speaker 3: He had some videos of a quote unquote get together

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Speaker 3: that's exactly where I wanted to go with this. It

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Speaker 3: How will you look at situation like that in the

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Speaker 4: First of all, Jay's relationship to the NFL is different.

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Speaker 4: so he you know, he was an actor on Ballers

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Speaker 4: like any reporter I've ever seen. And that's why if

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Speaker 4: I would never do that because if I were sitting

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Speaker 4: I learned early in my career you can't pallea around

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Speaker 4: the hard way, and Jay does that and the coaches

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Speaker 4: I was talking on another show. I think the only

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Speaker 4: they went through here. Wanted to meet him, wanted to

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Speaker 4: And so I knew Fisher really well. I set that

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Speaker 4: I think Charlie Cashley was there, and Bob invited me.

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Speaker 4: So I sat there and kept my mouth shut and listen.

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Speaker 4: That's the only time it was at the Biltmore, the

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Speaker 4: And Bud Adams never did it, and and so I

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Speaker 4: just I just I don't do it. I can't remember ever.

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Speaker 4: I loved working with Charlie Cashley because he was old

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Speaker 4: school and treat in the newspaper be writers better than anybody.

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Speaker 4: You know, no national scoops giving them up to make

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Speaker 1: General, What was it like when the Texans weren't even

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Speaker 1: born yet, when Bob McNair did not yet have the team,

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Speaker 1: during the season. But what were those years like when

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Speaker 1: Bob was chasing it down? Because that did not happen

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Speaker 1: make it all come true. By October sixth, nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 4: The Oilers left town to go to Nashville in June

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Speaker 4: And one of the things I learned about Bob and

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Speaker 4: I understood it. But he also was really well respected

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Speaker 4: He wanted an NFL franchise in Houston. He couldn't have

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Speaker 4: it because the Oilers were here. He and Janis have

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Speaker 4: been going to games since nineteen sixty and the NFL,

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Speaker 4: He thought about Miami a little bit, but Wayne Eizinger

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Speaker 4: Washington would love to have had him instead of Dan Snyder.

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Speaker 4: And he told me the only one he seriously considered

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Speaker 4: Bob was a mover and shaker in the Republican in

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Speaker 4: Bob knew where he was going to turn his attention.

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Speaker 4: And he used to call me a lot because I

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Speaker 4: was on the road for eight years, going wherever I wanted,

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Speaker 4: spending whatever I wanted, writing whatever I wanted. I never

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Speaker 4: we would talk several times a week. He had spies

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Speaker 4: we're going to get the team. I said, Bob, they

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Speaker 4: want to go to LA. They've even sent this executive

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Speaker 4: You're not going to get the team, he said, Well,

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Speaker 4: I'm confident we're going to get it. Of course, I

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Speaker 4: couldn't quote him, but he did the best job I've

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Speaker 4: of ninety nine. And one time TJ. Simer's columnists from

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Speaker 4: the La Times who constantly wrote that LA was going

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Speaker 4: to get the team constantly, and I had a league

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Speaker 4: because his brother, older George Allen, was a politician who

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Speaker 4: They both kept telling me, your guy, Bob Menara is

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Speaker 4: going to get this franchise because he's got his tugs

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Speaker 4: this goodell guy, he's going to convince the owners that

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Speaker 4: they need to go to LA. But Bob was right.

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Speaker 4: They never could get their act in a row. People here,

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Speaker 4: I bet a lot of the listeners don't realize they

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Speaker 4: gave LA a period they wanted the team to go

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Speaker 4: still dropped the ball. And once they did, and Bob

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Speaker 4: got it, and TJ Simers came here and wanted to

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Speaker 4: meet Bob, and I'm sorry, that's the second time I

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Speaker 4: went to dinner with Bob McNair. TJ and I went

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Speaker 4: and TJ told Bob, mister McNair, I respect you, but

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Speaker 4: you're not going to get the team. And when Bob

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Speaker 4: got it, and they came out of the ballroom in

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Speaker 4: the Atlanta Hotel and we're all standing outside. If you remember,

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Speaker 4: there was an escalator that went from the lower floor

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Speaker 4: to that level. And after it was announced, TJ Simers

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Speaker 4: and I thought, man, it's not a purple walk. It's

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Speaker 4: kind of a purple escalator, right. Everything he wrote did

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Speaker 4: not come true. And I just can't emphasize what a

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Speaker 4: great job Bob McNair did. But so did a lot

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Speaker 3: All right, general, So let's talk about this current Texans team.

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Speaker 3: Yours truly has a mock draft up. It's my second

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Speaker 3: in my mock draft footballtaker dot Com. I had the Texans, No,

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Speaker 3: just wait to react and then I'll get your reaction.

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Speaker 3: I had the Texans moving up from twenty eight to eighteen.

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Speaker 3: Now they had to give up pick sixty nine, which

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Speaker 3: thirty eight.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, they kept thirty eight and fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: They moved up to eighteen, and they drafted Kenyan Sadik

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Speaker 2: I know some people were like Oh, they won't move up.

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Speaker 2: They never move up. Well, they tried to last year.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I thought you were going to say they were

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Speaker 3: He was already gone. I'd do it for him first,

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Speaker 3: but he was already gone.

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Speaker 4: Well, I did not see him trading enough to get

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Speaker 4: talked to people in Indianapolis. Yeah, Braden Smith, I think

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Speaker 4: will be a one year deal. I'm sure White Taylor will.

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Speaker 4: They didn't even try to resign him in Cleveland, so

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Speaker 4: their stopcap. So I hope Nick Casario realizes he still

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Speaker 4: needs an influx of young talent in his offensive line.

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Speaker 4: But if they were going to trade up and take

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Speaker 4: although I don't think there's any defensive tackle worth that pick.

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Speaker 4: And and Jeremiah lovedn't fall eighteen, which didn't happen. And

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Speaker 4: great addition of the offense. They could have two tidy ends.

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Speaker 4: He could actually catch the ball instead of wide. But

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Speaker 4: I just, you know, I just don't see it.

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Speaker 1: Well. I see them adding offensive lineman, no question about it,

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Speaker 2: Up to get him. I didn't know uf.

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Speaker 3: I just didn't think he was getting to twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, he ain't getting eat that. Ryan Wilson,

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Speaker 3: CBS Sports. But what I did, I gave up sixty

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Speaker 3: So I get that, but I also get I think

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Speaker 3: but all tight ends are not created equally. He's a weapon, right,

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Speaker 3: He's He's more a weapon than I would consider him

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Speaker 3: tight end. Dude's two seventy big in line. Puts your

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Speaker 3: I call Sadeka tight end because he could play all

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Speaker 3: three of those spots. He could play full back, and

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Speaker 4: I think he's got the best future of any lineman

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Speaker 4: your marks. Bob McGinn, who writes for Golong and has

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Speaker 4: been doing draft series since the other eighties and quotes

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Speaker 4: then you've got Trent Brown, who you can't count on

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Speaker 4: If they thought Blake was going to be a starter,

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Speaker 4: he'd be a starter, and then you hope Ursury can

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Speaker 4: stay healthy all season. Wouldn't bother me if they got

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Speaker 4: they definitely need to upgrade it. They had a thing today.

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Speaker 4: people anonymously in that is it Peter Woods from Clemson. Yes,

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Speaker 4: that he's the only interior lineman who can rush the passer.

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Speaker 4: And I'm thinking, well, if you coach them up and

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Speaker 4: and what he did when he got his chance as

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Speaker 4: learn to rush the passer. I saw one today that

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Speaker 4: had the Texans taking a corner and I'm like, my god,

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Speaker 4: do you not pay attention to what this team is doing?

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Speaker 4: But that's not somebody I respect anyway, But I try

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Speaker 4: to look at all of them just to see where

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Speaker 4: they don't really pay close attention.

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Speaker 2: All right.

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Speaker 1: So after talking or hobnobbing with all the people at

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Speaker 1: the owner's meetings, gentlemen.

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Speaker 2: You know, I dding elbows.

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Speaker 1: I met Liam Khane. I'll get it to that later.

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Speaker 1: I met Liam Cohne because he's mask guy that's right,

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Speaker 1: he didn't make it to last year's owners meeting because

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Speaker 1: he wasn't a head coach.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, did you talk to him together? No?

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, These are all separate conversations to make.

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Speaker 2: Sure, because they squashed that beef apparently, but still you

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Speaker 1: Oh apparently they did, so they were at the same

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Speaker 1: Uh but General, let me go here, because I look

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Speaker 1: at this AFC South off season so far, and it's

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Speaker 1: improved their teams the most over where they were on paper,

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Speaker 1: because that's all we have. The Titans did a lot,

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Speaker 1: They signed a lot of guys. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: to three wins and seven wins maybe and the Texans,

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Speaker 1: you know, you might win twelve again, but you really

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Speaker 1: improved your team a lot, possibly with the addition as

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Speaker 2: We can get into all of it.

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Speaker 1: Blanketship general who had proved themselves the most in the

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Speaker 4: Well, the least is the Jaguars. They haven't done squat.

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Speaker 4: They're trying to get compensatory picks next year. And the

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Speaker 4: Titans had the most money to spend, They needed the

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Speaker 4: they did not draft Jeremiah Love. I think they've helped

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Speaker 4: such a good defensive coach, I'm saying the defensive players

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Speaker 3: Okay, general big news on Thursday, I suppose, and it

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Speaker 3: I don't think any of the.

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Speaker 2: Course is it a debate.

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Speaker 4: There's no debate, not.

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Speaker 3: Really a debate, but it got brought up by Danie Orlovski.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, conversation, Okay, good word, good word, and I kind

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Speaker 3: And I and I what I did was and I

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Speaker 2: Seven, before Mendoza, before Mendoza. Six.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're thinking they might wait. So that leads

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Speaker 3: me to this question. The Raiders signed Kirk Cousins. Now,

434
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Speaker 3: if you read one tweet, it's for a lot of money.

435
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Speaker 3: You read another tweet, you realize it's not that much money.

436
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: The Falcons are paying some of that, et cetera. So

437
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Speaker 3: the Raiders are going out and getting Kirk Cousins, and

438
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Speaker 3: the Raiders still have that number one pick. I just

439
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,400
Speaker 3: had a thought that you know what, maybe the Raiders

440
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Speaker 3: could shop that pick, go get more players and get

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Speaker 3: their quarterback next year because Fernana Mendoza probably isn't gonna

442
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Speaker 3: start with Kirk Cousins right away, so okay, well give

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Speaker 3: him a year. Well I think I'd much rather if

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Speaker 3: I'm have that philosophy, let Cousins start for the whole

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Speaker 3: year and go get my quarterback of the future next year,

446
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Speaker 3: because if I draft Fernanda Mendoz, I'm gonna give.

447
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Speaker 2: Him every opportunity. But I know full well the quarterbacks in.

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Speaker 3: Twenty twenty seven are better than he is, right, So

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I have a question in general

450
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Speaker 3: other than is it crazy to think the Raiders might

451
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Speaker 3: shop number one? Oh? I'm not crazy, general. Okay, go

452
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Speaker 3: ahead and comment Kirk Cousins to the Raiders, there's.

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Speaker 4: No guarantee you're going to get the quarterback next year.

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Speaker 4: This time last year, John, I know you know this.

455
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Speaker 4: They were really talking about the twenty twenty six draft

456
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Speaker 4: with Drew Aller, Garritnusemeyer, Klaye Kopnick All Leonora Sellers was

457
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Speaker 4: going to be the first overall pick. That was four

458
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Speaker 4: first round picks at this time last year, and look

459
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Speaker 4: how that's worked out. To me, you can never think

460
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Speaker 4: you're going to get one the next year because you

461
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Speaker 4: end up might having to do more. And I'll tell

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Speaker 4: you guys this, and I respect your opinion. I have

463
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Speaker 4: talked to three one y'all know very well guys who

464
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Speaker 4: were quarterback coaches, offensive coordinators, play callers in the NFL.

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Speaker 4: All three of them what love Mendoza the mental part,

466
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 4: the toughness, the accuracy, his personality, his leadership, and they

467
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Speaker 4: loved the guy. And right now, if I'm looking at

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Speaker 4: Mendoza and we're hoping arch Manning next year can play

469
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Speaker 4: the way he played at the end of last year,

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Speaker 4: and we're hoping that the other guys will come out.

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Speaker 4: But this time last year, oh, Leonora's Sellers was gonna

472
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Speaker 4: be number one. He didn't do squad in South Carolina

473
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 4: and he was smart to go back. But I think

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Speaker 4: there's no way they don't take Fernando Mendoza. And that's

475
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Speaker 4: a one year deal.

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Speaker 1: To Kirk Cousins, all right, I'll share my take out

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Speaker 1: it in the next segment because I'm.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna read you names and you're gonna go, wait

479
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Speaker 3: a second, one more year in college of those names,

480
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Speaker 3: and in fact I forgot two of them, so I didn't, well.

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Speaker 2: How do you feel last year? Though you weren't that

482
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Speaker 2: crazy about it?

483
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Speaker 3: I didn't like the quarterbacks at all, and because I

484
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Speaker 3: didn't think Arch was gonna come out. Now, I'm a

485
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Speaker 3: big fan of Leonora's Sellers, and I know he didn't

486
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Speaker 3: have a great year, but I was not a huge

487
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Speaker 3: fan of us Myer. That turned out to be true,

488
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Speaker 3: and I hate did Kate Clubnick hated. I did not

489
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Speaker 3: like these quarterbacks. In fact, when I wrote last Year

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Speaker 3: in because I always do kind of a summer series,

491
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Speaker 3: when I wrote about the quarterbacks, I mentioned twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: seven was the year to get your quarterback because I

493
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Speaker 3: felt like Arch would go to twenty twenty seven and

494
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Speaker 3: twenty Yes, in fact, I wouldn't even write him up.

495
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Speaker 3: I didn't even write him up for twenty twenty six

496
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Speaker 3: because I just didn't think he was gonna be there.

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Speaker 2: Others anointed him.

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Speaker 3: That's exactly right. But now you've seen him growth per

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Speaker 3: a year project another year. He needs to play Arch

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Speaker 3: Leonora Sellers, d'ante Moore, Julian Saying, C J. Carr, Jade

501
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Speaker 3: and Mayava Sam Levitt. I'd take all those guys before

502
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Speaker 3: I think about my dose, and I'll be honest.

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Speaker 2: I like Mendoza, I like Mindo. Good class, but it's

504
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Speaker 2: that good a class comic.

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Speaker 3: If to General's point, they've all got to declare and

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Speaker 3: that's a new world with this whole NIL transfer portal.

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Speaker 1: Start enough, General, tell us about the PVIL doc because

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Speaker 1: I have a big event coming up on Tuesday, right.

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Speaker 4: Well, yes, we're going to Victoria, the Lyceum Lectures series

510
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Speaker 4: that they have every year at Victoria College. They are

511
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Speaker 4: showing the document entery the pv I L story, separate

512
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Speaker 4: but equal. We've got interviews we've done with TV stations there,

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Speaker 4: with the newspaper there, and we're honored to be there

514
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Speaker 4: most of the day. We'll do a Q and A afterward.

515
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Speaker 4: They have a reception for us to start it off,

516
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Speaker 4: and we have other things lined up around the state.

517
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Speaker 4: Also the preview Winners Scholastical League as an organization and

518
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Speaker 4: which they've got board director. Robert Brown here is the

519
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Speaker 4: board chairman and runs that. They have an annual banquet

520
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Speaker 4: here in which they elect pv IL players for their

521
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Speaker 4: Hall of Fame, and they are giving the four of

522
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Speaker 4: us who worked on the documentary, director Mark Burns, executive

523
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Speaker 4: producers God Nethery, producer Rob Lynch, and me pv Il

524
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Speaker 4: meritorious Awards at their annual banquet because of the attention

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Speaker 4: we've brought to the preview interscholastically and so we are

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Speaker 4: honored on both cams.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful, General, thanks so much for the time. As always,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, Next up, thoughts from the annual league meeting

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Speaker 1: and my take on the Kirk Cousins thing and whatever

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Speaker 1: else comes up. It's Texans Radio. We remain in the

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Speaker 1: hun Day Texans Radio studio and Johnny and I back

534
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Speaker 1: together for the first time in a while doing a

535
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Speaker 1: talk show. As we had the General out in the

536
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Speaker 1: last segment. I'm back from the NFL annual meeting and

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Speaker 1: you talked about the Kirk Cousins signing with the Raiders.

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Speaker 1: My take, and General hinted at it. My take is

539
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna play. I mean, you don't sign Kirk Cousins

540
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Speaker 1: unless you want to play him. Yeah, he can be

541
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Speaker 1: your backup. Mendoza could get drafted. You'd be under pressure

542
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Speaker 1: to start him because he's a rookie. But you're not

543
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Speaker 1: in as much pressure to start him because you do

544
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Speaker 1: have Kirk Cousins. It's not like you have, you know,

545
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Speaker 1: a veteran backup. You don't have Mathan Rudolph or something.

546
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Speaker 1: You've got Kirk Cousins, a guy who's got a few pelts,

547
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Speaker 1: if you will, in this league and can make the

548
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: Raiders a whole lot better than they were in short order.

549
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: So I think they sign him to play them. They'll

550
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 1: draft Mendoza, Mendoza will try to beat him out, he

551
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,360
Speaker 1: won't be able to ride away, and we'll take it

552
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 1: from there. But you know how, this is preseason. We're

553
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Speaker 1: all gonna watch NFL Network. We're gonna see some Raiders highlights.

554
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 2: Hey, that look good? That look good?

555
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,280
Speaker 1: Will beat the DiCaprio meme. There it is, Start them,

556
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Speaker 1: start them. Just like I felt with Malik Willis when

557
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: he ran that eighty yard touchdown in his rookie year

558
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: in the preseason, I was.

559
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Speaker 2: Like, Oh my gosh, he's the next Michael Vick.

560
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: I didn't go that crazy, but it just felt like, uh, oh,

561
00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: did we really see the Titans do something extraordinary here?

562
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: As it turned out, they did get the right guy,

563
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Speaker 1: But oh, No, we didn't get the most out of him.

564
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Speaker 1: We let him throw two passes in a win. I

565
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: get it at the time here, but he ends up

566
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Speaker 1: in Green Bay and now look at him. He's a

567
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 1: starting quarterback in this league. It's just amazing these things

568
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:57,520
Speaker 1: can happen.

569
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Speaker 2: I think it's it'll work out for the Titans.

570
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: We saw cam Ward in all of his cam Ward

571
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 3: this in Tennessee in particular, and at.

572
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Speaker 2: Last drive was scary. It's like, holy cow, what did

573
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Speaker 2: he just do?

574
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Speaker 3: I mean, he's being dragged down, threw him back across

575
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Speaker 3: his body and dropped it right in a bucket to

576
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Speaker 3: a conco that put them in scoring range. I'm like,

577
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Speaker 3: how did he just do that? Yeah, so now you

578
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Speaker 3: potentially had Jeremiah Love. I know there's probably been some

579
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Speaker 3: contention there. You know me, I'm more a trenchious guy

580
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 3: and I love Jeremiah Love. But yeah, Love can can

581
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Speaker 3: turn that thing with he and cam Ward around. I

582
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: thought Field Yates put up a really good graphic. Yet

583
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Speaker 3: I always kind of find these not disingenuous. But he

584
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Speaker 3: put up a graphic of the running backs that have

585
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Speaker 3: been taken high in the draft. Yeah, and then the

586
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Speaker 3: record of the teams for that particular period that they

587
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Speaker 3: were drafted in the first round, and none of them

588
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Speaker 3: were above five hundred.

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Speaker 1: You mean the teams that drafted them, the teams that

590
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Speaker 1: draft drafted them, or after they drafted, after they so like.

591
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Speaker 3: But John Robinson with Atlanta, I don't think anybody argue

592
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Speaker 3: he is Atlanta's best.

593
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Speaker 2: Player by far, and it was the right pick. But

594
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Speaker 2: they're like twenty one and twenty three or.

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Speaker 1: Something with Barkley didn't happen right away.

596
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Speaker 3: Yeah, bark didn't happ right away with the Giants, so

597
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 3: Derrick Henry, so he was using that as sort of

598
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Speaker 3: ammunition why they should probably go trenches. I I think

599
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Speaker 3: in my mock I had them going defense, but may

600
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Speaker 3: part of it was that I didn't want to see

601
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Speaker 3: Jeremiah Love there, But the other part was I just

602
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Speaker 3: feel like that's a team right now that needs some

603
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Speaker 3: help on the edge. They can't rush the quarterback. And

604
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Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember what they did in free agency.

605
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Speaker 3: I know they did something out on the edge. They

606
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Speaker 3: areden Key walked, if I remember correctly, But I mean,

607
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Speaker 3: I know they did something with you know, with players

608
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Speaker 3: out on the edge. But I just think like there's

609
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Speaker 3: there they need, they need more, and so I don't

610
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Speaker 3: know that Jeremiah Love really kind of helps some.

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Speaker 1: Jermaine Johnson with the Jets, Yeah, and.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that Jermaine Johnson's I mean it's a

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Speaker 3: you know, they needed it, but Jacob Martin again, they

614
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Speaker 3: need some help on the edge. Yeah, and that's why

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Speaker 3: I ended up giving him. David Bailey from out of

616
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Speaker 3: Texas Tech. My comment this morning was, he's the best

617
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Speaker 3: pure pass rusher in this draft and it's not even

618
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Speaker 3: really close now. He is the complete edge player. He's

619
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Speaker 3: number one of my hairs one hundred. I have this

620
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Speaker 3: second best, in my opinion, best pure pass rusher going

621
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Speaker 3: to the Texans at number thirty eight my mock.

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Speaker 1: Draft because they need the depth. They want the depth.

623
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think he the guy that I have

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Speaker 2: at thirty eight.

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Speaker 3: Very mysterious about it, so you go read it football

626
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Speaker 3: taker dot Com. Very skilled and very dynamic and fast.

627
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Speaker 3: That's something that's just a different Yeah, it's you won't

628
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Speaker 3: get him later.

629
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Speaker 1: You won't get him later, but NICK feel like we

630
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Speaker 1: can get a guy. I know, he's still my beast

631
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Speaker 1: side Barnett.

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Speaker 3: That's true, and I and that was my comment this morning, like,

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Speaker 3: I don't you know how much longer can you play

634
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Speaker 3: that game with Barnett, Like, hey, you're playing Tom on

635
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Speaker 3: waivers in twenty three, good year, twenty four wasn't signed,

636
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Speaker 3: and hey they signed him twenty five. He wasn't signed

637
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Speaker 3: for the longest period then they resigned him. I don't

638
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: still know how long you can go back to that

639
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 3: well of well, Derek's there. We can always go get dB,

640
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:14,440
Speaker 3: and I love dB. I would I would go out

641
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:16,759
Speaker 3: and if we signed him, I would probably back off

642
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 3: of my stance of an edge rusher, but I feel

643
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,479
Speaker 3: like probably need another guy.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they have some sort of unofficial first

645
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Speaker 1: read of refusal with his agent. Yeah, this point, call us.

646
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 1: If you get to call call us, because we will

647
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: resign him. But I just want him out there for

648
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: a little bit because we're gonna mess around here. I

649
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,200
Speaker 1: don't thirty eight. That's gonna be interesting if they do that.

650
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,160
Speaker 1: I would be very curious to see the reaction.

651
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 2: Talking point.

652
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:42,680
Speaker 1: Let me ask you about this, because you had Sadik

653
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: and your mock I did, and you moved up to

654
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: get him. I had him at the Vandermarck but I

655
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: didn't move up because it's the Vandermond. Things are just

656
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: gonna happen in the vandermik unexplained. But is Kyle Pitt's

657
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:58,919
Speaker 1: a cautionary tale for a first round tight end selection? Now,

658
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:03,200
Speaker 1: Pitts is good, But has Pits ever become who they

659
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: wanted him to be?

660
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 2: No?

661
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,040
Speaker 3: No, Finally in twenty twenty five he started to kind

662
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 3: of emerge. Yeah, but keep in mind Pits was also

663
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,879
Speaker 3: a top seven pick. Yeah, there's to be a top

664
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 3: seven pick and being picking number eighteen. Yeah, But I

665
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 3: also feel like, as you know, Pitts, even though he

666
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,879
Speaker 3: was a defensive player comeing out of high school, he

667
00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:28,359
Speaker 3: doesn't play the game as physically as Sadiq does. And

668
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,319
Speaker 3: you know, look, the quarterback situation in Atlanta was kind

669
00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 3: of up and down and all over the place for

670
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: a little bit.

671
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 1: How does Sadek compare to Ty Warren? More explosive?

672
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:43,440
Speaker 3: Okay, way more explosive, But I think Warren has better

673
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 3: He's got better mits, he's got better hands, and I

674
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 3: think Warren is just not going to scare anybody explosively.

675
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 2: But you can do a lot with Warren. Yeah you can.

676
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: Obviously we saw it. He tried to rush that quarterback

677
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 3: sneak and do some things. Penn State did a lot

678
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 3: with him. Sadik can play every position, and I think

679
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,320
Speaker 3: Warren is probably the better in total. He's probably the

680
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:08,399
Speaker 3: better in line blocker than Sadiq, but Sidik can play

681
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,680
Speaker 3: all the tight en positions and is a really he's

682
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 3: a plus blocker, so there's not too much difference. I

683
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 3: think Warren's a little bit better there, but there's no

684
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 3: denying that in this I said this morning with Kenny

685
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 3: stek walks in his building having run four three nine,

686
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 3: he's one of your top five fastest players in the

687
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,600
Speaker 3: building at a quote.

688
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: Unquote ten building in the build up.

689
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a building that has some fast guys.

690
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 3: I mean, think about Nico Is in the four fours,

691
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 3: Jayden was in the high four threes.

692
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 2: With those two out in the field, with Sadik at four.

693
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 3: Three nine, I mean, you're motorant now, and I mean

694
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,839
Speaker 3: that's just you know, that's just twelve personnel right there.

695
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 3: So you know, once you put Schultz on the field.

696
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 3: So you have Schultz and you have Sadiq on a field,

697
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 3: you got some weapons, and you've got different areas of

698
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 3: the field.

699
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:51,879
Speaker 2: You can hit.

700
00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 3: Maybe Sidiq is not a seventy five reception of your

701
00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:00,319
Speaker 3: guy like Dalton is. But maybe he's forty. But he's

702
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,640
Speaker 3: racking up fifteen yards per catch because now you're using

703
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 3: him downfield a little bit more, you're using him in

704
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 3: different ways, and so I think that's look I just

705
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 3: when I start thinking about it, I didn't. In my mock,

706
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 3: I actually drafted two offensive linemen, won at fifty nine

707
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: and one at one oh six, So I didn't obviously

708
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 3: turn away from the offense line. People will say interior

709
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 3: defensive line, I like. I like some of the later

710
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 3: interior defensive line prospects. I like Grayson Halton from Oklahoma.

711
00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: I even like Landon Robinson from out of Navy. He

712
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 3: could be even later. He didn't get an invited a combine.

713
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 3: He's six foot two eighty seven, And I know that

714
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: sounds weird, but it's like, I don't think that Demko

715
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 3: has this size requirement. It's like, if you get a

716
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 3: field and create Mayhem like he'll draft you, they'll draft you. Ye,

717
00:38:47,400 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 3: Nicke will vouch for LANDA Robinson from Navy. They'll air

718
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 3: on the lighter side rather than the heavier. Absolutely and

719
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 3: then you know, I watched Landa Robinson run up fake

720
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: punt against Army a couple of years ago.

721
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,560
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god.

722
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: So I like some of the later in tier defensive

723
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:02,760
Speaker 3: lineman down the road, and I think it's pretty deep.

724
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 3: So that's why I kind of went the way I

725
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 3: did with my mock that my next pick would probably

726
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 3: be an interior defensive lineman that I think could come

727
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 3: in and do some good things and a young guy

728
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 3: that can.

729
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: You know, have some upside potential more likely to happen.

730
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: Nick moves up, Nick moves back.

731
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 2: I think most people would say move back, because that's

732
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 2: his history.

733
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: I'm feeling draft frisky though. I think he goes up

734
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: to I think he's going to attack a really good

735
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: player that he feels like can make a difference in

736
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: short order. Yes, let's go get a great player right now.

737
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,840
Speaker 1: We've got a good team. We don't have to do

738
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: somebody's stop pile, right, somebody's falling.

739
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 3: For what, you know, for all the mock drafts and

740
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 3: everything that always do, somebody is going to quote unquote

741
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:44,840
Speaker 3: fall and it's gonna fall in a range like what

742
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: I did. The I just used the Jimmy Johnson chart,

743
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 3: which I know there are different charts and every team

744
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 3: has got their own trade value chart, right. So I

745
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 3: saw the Athletic you know, Bruce Felman did a mock draft.

746
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: He had the Cowboys moving up to three from twelve

747
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 3: and he's like, yeah, I'll give up pick number ninety two.

748
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, whoa, No, you need way more than that

749
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 3: to move up nine spots from twelve to three. But

750
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: twenty eight to eighteen was only your third rounder, number

751
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,280
Speaker 3: sixty nine. It was almost perfect. The value at sixty

752
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 3: nine covers those ten spots. So I just made it

753
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: really easy. I threw in a sixth rounder because I

754
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 3: like Paul Allen, so I threw that six rounder in

755
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 3: as addition to it. But that's twenty twenty seven six

756
00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:24,399
Speaker 3: and rocked on with the trade, and so that's.

757
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 2: Why I did it.

758
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 3: I just you know, last year, there was a lot

759
00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: of talking about Tyler Booker trading up for him with

760
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,399
Speaker 3: the Cowboys. There was a lot of talk about moving

761
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 3: up to go get Gray's abel.

762
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 2: They ended up trading down, but they definitely were trying

763
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 2: to trade up.

764
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 3: I think it's Nick's not staying at twenty eight that

765
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 3: I feel very confident.

766
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,000
Speaker 1: Somebody threw this at me, thirty eight and fifty nine

767
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: to move up to ten, it's gonna take more than that.

768
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,400
Speaker 1: Even if the Jimmy Johnson chart says thirty eight and

769
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: fifty nine would do it, I think you need more.

770
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: Thirty eight and fifty nine. That's two two's.

771
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: I mean you're talking so by the Jimmy Johnson shart,

772
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 3: thirty eight is worth five hundred and twenty points. Fifty

773
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: nine is worth three ten. So that's eight thirty and

774
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 3: that gets you up to what So eight thirty plus

775
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 3: twenty eight is worth six sixty? Now you need you

776
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 3: need a little bit more than that. Yeah, that's what

777
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,080
Speaker 3: I thought, and I mean that might be a little rich.

778
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 3: I've also said numerous times I think those first four

779
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 3: picks twenty eight, thirty eight, fifty nine to sixty nine,

780
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,080
Speaker 3: I think four of them are turning into three picks.

781
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 3: I mean there's a trade up at some point.

782
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, Okay, next up to close it out, thoughts

783
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,240
Speaker 1: from the NFL Annual Meeting. There's some really good NFL

784
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: entertainment coming your way. Johnny's gonna be interested in this.

785
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 1: He'll probably know everything about it already. It's next here

786
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 1: on Texans All Access. All Right, final thoughts here on

787
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: the program tonight, Mark Vandermin and John Harris with you, Johnny.

788
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 1: At the NFL Annual Meeting, they unveiled a bunch of stuff,

789
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: including but not limited to, of course, nine International Games,

790
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: all that stuff, but also the partnership that they'd asked

791
00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: a few years ago at these meetings with sky Dance

792
00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 1: and Paramount.

793
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:04,400
Speaker 4: Uh.

794
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 1: They're doing more unscripted stuff and it's gonna be interesting

795
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 1: because there's going to be a series called The Land

796
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 1: and it's NFL in Cleveland and it's scripted. It's not

797
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,960
Speaker 1: to do with the modern day Browns or anything really

798
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: going out with the raft. Yeah, so it's kind of

799
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: like Draft Day because you have the Browns there, but

800
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with the real Browns, but

801
00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: it is the Browns. They want real NFL teams in this,

802
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:31,280
Speaker 1: and I'm I would imagine they're gonna throw real NFL

803
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,000
Speaker 1: players in this and former players at some point. And

804
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 1: they showed us a long clip from that that looks

805
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: like it could be pretty good.

806
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 2: That sounds fun.

807
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I want all I want all of that because

808
00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:43,960
Speaker 3: you know how I feel about Draft Day.

809
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 2: In fact, I gotta go get my copy ready for you.

810
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,879
Speaker 2: About three weeks from three whoa, we're three weeks from

811
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 2: Draft Night.

812
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're gonna watch Draft Day again, that preposterous Kevin.

813
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: Three times being honest.

814
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. And they'll have mister Irrelevant. That's a

815
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,800
Speaker 1: film coming out about John Tuggall, who was mister Irrelevant

816
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty three. Film a film. This is a movie, Yeah,

817
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 1: no way, And he is played by the guy who

818
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 1: played Superman. What's his name? Oh yeah, it's David Day

819
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: worn Swiss.

820
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that sounds familiar. Yeah.

821
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: And Michael Shannon plays Bill Parcells and he is so

822
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,680
Speaker 1: he's in Revolutionary Road. He plays the uh, the brother

823
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: of what is it? Is it DiCaprio's brother or Kate

824
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: Winslow's brother whatever. He plays the brother who's kind of

825
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: a little off and I can't remember it says here

826
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 1: man of Does it say Man of Steel?

827
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 2: Yeah?

828
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 1: I think Michael Shannon, Uh, let's.

829
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 2: See hang on a second.

830
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 1: He plays parcels though, Okay, yeah, it says Man of Steel.

831
00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 1: He plays Parcel He's I saw a clip. I'm like, ah,

832
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: that's a stretch. He's a good actor, but we'll see

833
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: how he does.

834
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 2: So it sound like Nicholas Cage playing. That was great casting.

835
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:00,839
Speaker 2: Cage did a great job.

836
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 3: Right when you see Kge, you're like, oh my god,

837
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 3: looks like John did back then. Yeah, like put on

838
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: the waiter, wait, wait for that, and Christian Bayle is out,

839
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:10,600
Speaker 3: Davis come out.

840
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 1: He could play anything. So that's cool, amazing. Daniel day

841
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,880
Speaker 1: lewis to play Al Davis old.

842
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 3: Al Dobson that what do you think about the Hard

843
00:44:17,960 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 3: Knocks twenty twenty six names smart?

844
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: Seahawks twenty twenty seven named Patriots smart, just to get

845
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 1: it done. Yeah, the Floyer had a great point.

846
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 3: He said teams kept saying, well maybe next year, will

847
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 3: wake me next year, and finally the league just said, yeah, okay, Patriots,

848
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 3: you wanted next year.

849
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 2: Next year it is twenty seven.

850
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 3: Patriots are like wow, right, okay, So Seahawks and Patriots excited.

851
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:39,839
Speaker 2: I am free.

852
00:44:39,880 --> 00:44:43,479
Speaker 3: The one I will say, we know Rabel very well.

853
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: He's gonna be really good. Oh that's still twenty seven.

854
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 1: He was great on Texans twenty fifteen.

855
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: He was always good.

856
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: Also, I'm not gonna bog everybody down with numbers. But

857
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: the streaming obviously not going anywhere. The Amazon playoff game

858
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: was Bears.

859
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the first.

860
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: Weekend, and it outrated the other playoff games really on

861
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: Prime Holy. So that's how you know it's working and

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Speaker 1: it will continue to.

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Speaker 3: Work for that, you know, Mark, I'm not even surprised

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Speaker 3: by that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, first of all, it's Bears Packers.

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Speaker 1: Which helps. Yeah, it a hell of a game whatever.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that that definitely helps.

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Speaker 3: And and me, look, it just shows streamings and an

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Speaker 3: environment that it's here to stay. It's not going away.

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Speaker 3: So if you're barking at the moon streaming going, it's

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Speaker 3: not happening.

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Speaker 1: Not happening, not happening at all. The Thanksgiving game, I

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Speaker 1: believe I have this right outrated the Conference championships all

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Speaker 1: right with the Cowboys and the Chiefs.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I knew that was a big number. How about

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Speaker 2: that's amazing?

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Speaker 1: Now the calebar the Cowboys, I hate to say, the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys aren't going anywhere on national TV other than everywhere.

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Speaker 3: What about the Chiefs declaration that they're not going to

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00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,279
Speaker 3: be the team that plays the Seahawks because there's fear

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Speaker 3: Patrick won't be ready.

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Speaker 2: I heard that come from clark Ount's mouth.

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Speaker 1: Well, I would say that if I'm the league, I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to put that game on TV in that

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Speaker 1: spot because of that. I want Patrick ready, I want

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Speaker 1: the best possible game, and that's not it justin fields,

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Speaker 1: is not it versus Game number one. Yeah, it's just

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Speaker 1: not going to work out that way. So they got

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Speaker 1: to figure that out. The most notable football thing I

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Speaker 1: don't know if there was anything that really jumped out.

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Speaker 1: It was something like seventy four percent of kickoffs were

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Speaker 1: returned as opposed to thirty and changed the year before.

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Speaker 1: So that's a massive increase. And it did everything they

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Speaker 1: wanted it to do. It made that play a play again.

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Speaker 2: And I know that.

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Speaker 1: You know, they get off my long guys, Andrew, but

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Speaker 1: they get off my long guys.

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Speaker 2: Don't like it.

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Speaker 1: But that ain't going anywhere well other than tweaks perhaps,

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Speaker 1: So I thought that was notable. And there were some

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Speaker 1: other things that we might get into tomorrow from the

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00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: league meeting that we're rather eye popping. But guess what,

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Speaker 1: the league's really popular. It crushes everything in its path

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Speaker 1: and it will can continue to do so, yes, it will.

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Speaker 1: You know that that is not not a factor, I

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00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: mean not a doubt at all. NFL is king, and

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00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: the eyeballs are everywhere, and these streaming services are really

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00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: gonna go nuts when they get to the international slate,

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00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: because when you go to eighteen games, everybody's gonna play one.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna have something like a sixteen game or whatever.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be international schedule, and that will be interesting

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Speaker 1: to see how they put that on some kind of

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Speaker 1: televised product. Okay, that's gonna do it for the show tonight.

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Speaker 1: It'll be all up in podcast forms soon enough on

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Speaker 1: the Odyssey app or wherever you get your podcasts. Back

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Speaker 1: to it tomorrow with Johnny and Can't Wait, and maybe

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Speaker 1: we'll hear a little Demico or Nick replay tomorrow from

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Speaker 1: the NFL Annual Meeting. You never know. Area forty five

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Speaker 1: is coming up next. Go Texans,