1 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,560 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 3 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Ally, he is Matt Williamson. 4 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: And well we got a lot of news to get to. 5 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,200 Speaker 1: Stuff going on the league. It's crazy, crazy weekend. Of course, 6 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: this will be the final weekend of the NFL regular season. 7 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: And well, I mean the previous two seasons were a 8 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: little crazy because of uh yeah right right, Um so 9 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: why wouldn't this, uh this, why would this season be 10 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: any differently different? Right? A lot of logistics are always 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:52,320 Speaker 1: up in the air of these last couple of years, 12 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 1: more than ever I can remember. So there we have 13 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 1: some news though, right, I mean absolutely the the NFL 14 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:03,639 Speaker 1: owners meeting earlier today to ratify what the competition committee. Uh. 15 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: They had a meeting last night at six uh. The 16 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: owners met at noon. Uh. And so they have decided 17 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: that if the a f C Championship involves a team 18 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: that didn't play as many games as the other teams, 19 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: uh so that would be Cincinnati and Buffalo. Um, that 20 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: the a f C Championship game would be played at 21 00:01:28,440 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 1: a neutral site. Yeah, that that doesn't That only means 22 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: if it's uh, Kansas City with those teams. Okay. So 23 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: for example, if the if the Steelers would make it 24 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: to the a f C Championship game against Cincinnati, the 25 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 1: game would be in Cincinnati. Got okay, So it's only 26 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: if it involves the Chiefs. Those three teams are the 27 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: only ones that could be affect correct. I thought that 28 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: was the case. And then when he said the first time, 29 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: I was like, is it for anyone? Okay? So if 30 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,080 Speaker 1: the Chargers make it, yeah, we know what that building 31 00:02:01,080 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: will be or what city. But yeah, I've seen some 32 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: some some sites floated out there. Detroit was one. They 33 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: can't do it in Detroit because they're tearing the turf 34 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: out at Ford Field. They've already had this plan because 35 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: the Lions can't coast a home playoff game there's any turf, 36 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: so there won't be any turf. That's kind of a 37 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: big deal. Uh. They can't do it in Indianapolis because 38 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: Indianapolis is hosting a National Volleyball tournament that's already been scheduled. Yeah, 39 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: it's a big deal obviously. I mean that whole Convention 40 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,040 Speaker 1: Center is probably full ward, you know, but everybody's been 41 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 1: looking at indoor facilities. Yeah, I only why we have 42 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: to narrow it down. You can anywhere to go anywhere, right, 43 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: I mean, they could potentially if they wanted to, they 44 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: could play to the college stadium. Yeah, I played a 45 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 1: Penn State played it in Arbor, playing in Columbus. You 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: know a lot of big buildings not and they could 47 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: fill them up and that's not bad idea. And somewhere 48 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 1: like that that doesn't usually host a pro game, maybe 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: that would be a great idea. A hundred thousand seats stadium, 50 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: you know, something like that. That'd be crazy, it would 51 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 1: be it would be no and uh to me, you know, 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: I think it depends on kind of who, you know, 53 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: who's playing. Is it? Is it Cincinnati in Kansas City? 54 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it Cincinnati and Buffalo? Is it? You know? 55 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean so there's there's some variables there. If it's 56 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: like because they kind of keep it close in the middle. Yeah, right, 57 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: So if it's you know, if it's Kansas City and 58 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: in Buffalo, well then okay, then you're looking at maybe 59 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 1: a Cleveland and Pittsburgh somebody like that stadium or somewhere 60 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: halfway through. If it's Cincinnati in Kansas City, would you 61 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: play in Nashville doesn't sound like a bad call. That's 62 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: kind of in between both, right. I mean, if it's 63 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: Since and Buffalo, I don't think you played in Glendale. 64 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: You want to make it. The NFL is going to 65 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: want as many home fans to be able to get 66 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: there as possible, Right, So I guess that's what they're 67 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: kicking around, or maybe they just don't announce it till 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: it's down to the final four, you know what I mean. 69 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: I mean, they got time to figure those kind of 70 00:03:56,720 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: things outside. I just you don't even we don't even 71 00:03:58,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: know if that if those scenarios are going to play out, 72 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 1: the things be changed this weekend Cincinnati. If Cincinnati loses 73 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: to the Ravens the a f C North Championship and 74 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: who they would then host, Potentially those two teams would 75 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: then meet again in the first round of the playoffs, 76 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: assuming the Chargers, assuming the Chargers beat Denver Denver, which 77 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't assume because I'm not gonna assume anything, but 78 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: if that happens, If if Cincinnati loses to Baltimore and 79 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: in the Chargers win, you're getting a rematch of that 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,120 Speaker 1: game the following week. That would be decided the home 81 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: team would be decided by a coin flip that I 82 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: don't love, I mean any coin kind of get it though, 83 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,279 Speaker 1: because Baltimore would have would have swept the season series 84 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: against the Bengals, assuming they win, so they would have 85 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: eleven wins. You get Cincinnati sitting at eleven wins right now, 86 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: so they would have the because they didn't play that 87 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: game against the Bills, and we can't assume that Cincinnati 88 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: was going to win that game again because even though 89 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:01,480 Speaker 1: Baltimore swept them, wold have swept them. So I guess 90 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: I understand it then, because like, hey, we we swept you, 91 00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: and now we can go to your building with the 92 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 1: same amount of wins, right, I mean, I guess there's 93 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,599 Speaker 1: a complaint to be had there. Okay, when I just 94 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: heard a coin flip, I was like, it's not really 95 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: the best way to do this. I mean, Baltimore or 96 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: Cincinnati controls that go beat Baltimore this week and there's 97 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:18,679 Speaker 1: no coin flip, and again, who knows what's going to happen. 98 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: But I looked at lines for the first time this morning. 99 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 1: Their fourteen point favorites over the Ravens. That's a lot 100 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: of points playing anybody, and the Chargers are dogs there three. Well, 101 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:31,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens now have a reason to play hard in 102 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: this game. Yeah, I thought so too, And I saw 103 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,360 Speaker 1: that line, I was like, why are the Ravens getting fourteen? 104 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: In fact, what the what the league did, Matt? They 105 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 1: want they incentivized a lot of these games. Yeah, right right? 106 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:46,440 Speaker 1: They think even if Kansas City wins, Buffalo still has 107 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: a reason to want to play hard, right Like, which 108 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: is great for the Steelers because you get the JV. 109 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: But because if you there's a difference. All right, So, 110 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: because Cincinnati and and and Buffalo have played the same 111 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: amount of games, if you finish to them, you win 112 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 1: this weekend and fit to finish ahead of Cincinnati, you're 113 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: the two seed. That's something to play for. You would 114 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: then host them instead of having to go back to 115 00:06:08,800 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: Cincinnati with everything that you don't want to do that obviously. Wow. 116 00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: So yeah, okay, so a lot of these teams that 117 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: could have rested people, the Chargers arresting people. Can they 118 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:25,560 Speaker 1: move they could move down, they can't move on to 119 00:06:25,680 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: be five. I mean fives are really spot Yeah, I 120 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 1: mean to the point where I might play Herbert and 121 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: Ekeler if I wasn't going to to play five. I mean, 122 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: that's a lot different than going to Cincinnati, Buffalo or 123 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: Kansas City, I would think, so. Yeah. So that's why 124 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 1: I thought the Ravens would not be dogging it, which 125 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 1: I didn't understand the line when I saw it either. 126 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: We also now know that Mike White is out right 127 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,280 Speaker 1: for the New York Jets, I said, and Joe Flacco 128 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:53,359 Speaker 1: will get to start, I said earlier in the week. 129 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if I said it on the ear 130 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: but I know I said it to you. Yeah, I 131 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,840 Speaker 1: felt more confident if the Jets were starting Joe for 132 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: Lacko as opposed to Mike White. I don't know if 133 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: I agree. I think White's the better player at this moment, 134 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: but that's not the conversation. The conversation is who can 135 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: win you a game? And Flacco has been around the 136 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: block and probably will make a fewer mistakes. And I 137 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: can't disagree with your analysis that White puts up numbers 138 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: and moves the ball, but then it's terrible in the 139 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: red zone and they don't score touchdowns. I mean that's 140 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: just a fact. I mean, that's you know, he's he's 141 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: a young quarterback. And he has not gotten over the 142 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: red zone hump, that's for sure. But I don't think 143 00:07:31,960 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: it's you know now now that Jets have no chance. Well, 144 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: here's here's flat. Here's Flacco stats for the season. He's 145 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: made three starts this year. He's won in three games, yeah, 146 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: one and two. But his losses were to Baltimore and Cincinnati. Right, Okay, 147 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: so I don't I don't know. And he also he 148 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: threw three passes against Buffalo mop up duty. He beat 149 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: the Browns, beat the Browns, uh, and actually played pretty well. 150 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,880 Speaker 1: He was forty four with for three oh seven and 151 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: four touchdown pass again the Browns against the Browns. The 152 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: Browns have only given up nineteen touchdown passes this year 153 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: through the air. It's difficult, right, Yeah, So the three 154 00:08:06,600 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: US against Baltimore, he was thirty seven or fifty nine 155 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 1: nine yards and a touchdown. It's a really good day. Uh, 156 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 1: you know, they just didn't you know they what's his 157 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: touchdown to interception ratio this year? This year? He it's 158 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: not great. He he hasn't thrown many passes. Yeah, he's 159 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: well it's five to three, so yeah, I mean they 160 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: he can at least he knows where to go with 161 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: the football. I would say he's an NFL quarterback and 162 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: he's gonna have all the mental stuff there, you know. 163 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna play hard. I mean, I'm 164 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: sure some people are like, well, why do the Jets 165 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 1: even care? You don't want to lose six in a 166 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: row to end your season that you need to have 167 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,120 Speaker 1: a little bit of momentum on a young team. And 168 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: if you're Flacco, you're thirty seven years old. Does he 169 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: want to play again next year? Because if he gets 170 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: out and plays well in this game, he might have 171 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: a job waiting for him. Whether he wants somebody else, 172 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:55,559 Speaker 1: We'll bring Joe the Steelers might yeah, you know, Kenny's 173 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: mentor or whatever. Right, I mean, so, no, I could 174 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: see him wanting to play hard. And some teams are 175 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,400 Speaker 1: are interesting, Like if you were the Jets and said, wow, 176 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: this doesn't be anything. We're gonna shut every one down. 177 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: Your best players are like, I mean a Sauce Gardner 178 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 1: and Garrett Wilson and Quinn and Williams. I'm gonna play 179 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: those guys if they had a knee or something. But 180 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: for the for the Jets, I know, you know, the 181 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: last couple of weeks have been playoff type atmospheres. This 182 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: one will be a playoff type atmosphere because for the 183 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: for Miami, it's when you know win or go home, right, 184 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:32,120 Speaker 1: So you know they've got something to play for. So 185 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: you want your young guys playing in those kind of situations. 186 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,599 Speaker 1: I mentioned the spreads earlier. I think when we broke yesterday, 187 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: the Jets were favored by one. Now they're getting three. 188 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: White thing. I mean, maybe I prefer white, you prefer 189 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: a Flacco, but not four points to you know, I 190 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: don't understand that. It's like, oh, they got no shot now. 191 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't get that at all. Miami's in a bad spot. 192 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: I mean, both of those guys have looked more efficient 193 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,520 Speaker 1: moving the football with the Jets than Zack Wilson did. 194 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I think you're gonna say Skyler Thompson. Skyler Thompson, 195 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: by the way, has only played in a few games 196 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:16,720 Speaker 1: this year. One of those games happened to be against 197 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,920 Speaker 1: the New York Chats. Uh. That was a game in 198 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: which Teddy Bridgewater through one pass and then got hurt. 199 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: Um oh, Miami quarterback got hurt in the shockingly enough, 200 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:32,320 Speaker 1: so Skyler Thompson finished that game after Bridgewater, so essentially 201 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 1: essentially played the whole game because Bridgewater got hurt. On 202 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: the opening series, he was nineteen of thirty three for 203 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 1: a hundred and sixty six yards in an interception and 204 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: they got beat. They smoked too. Yeah, I mean he's 205 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: had a couple of flashes this year where it's like 206 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 1: he looks like he might stick around the league for 207 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: a seventh round pick. I mean, if he was a 208 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: first round pick, could be like, this guy's terrible, you know, 209 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,320 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson asked, you know, But I mean he's a 210 00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: third string, seventh own pick. I mean, he's not gonna 211 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: brock party it up. I liked him in the draft, 212 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: but I liked him as a project, not somebody who, Hey, 213 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 1: you're gonna play this week to get us into the playoff, Right, 214 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,439 Speaker 1: You're gonna stop our five game losing stream to get 215 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 1: us into the playoffs against a pretty good defense, really 216 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: really good defense, and without Armstead and yeah, I mean 217 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: there's left tackle situations and no running game. Yeah, you 218 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: got two good receivers, but that's all we're gonna give you. 219 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: All the other nets should be great, and the Jets 220 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 1: I think can handle hill and waddle to some degree 221 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 1: as well as any especially Skyler Thompson playing right exactly. 222 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: I mean they play a lot of Cover three. They 223 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: have good corners to probably keep everything in front of him, 224 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: make Thompson complete pass after pass. We'll see. Yeah, so 225 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,199 Speaker 1: it's it's very interesting. Uh So Buffalo has something to 226 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 1: play for, right right, which is great. Joe Flaccos starting 227 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: against Skyler Thompson, right, that doesn't seem like the biggest 228 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 1: obstacle I've ever seen. Did you see the Jadeveon Clowney 229 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: stuff in Cleveland? Refresh me? I they sent him home today? Yeah, 230 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 1: I knew that, But why? Okay, So first, first, he 231 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 1: came out yesterday and told some reporters in Cleveland that, well, 232 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to be back here next year. Chance, 233 00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not going to be back here. I 234 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: want to go somewhere where I'm wanted. But he also 235 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: said the Brown's coaching staff is more concerned about getting 236 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 1: Myles Garrett into the Hall of Fame instead of winning games. 237 00:12:23,559 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: So everything is set up for Miles Garrett to succeed, 238 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: and they don't put other guys in the same In 239 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: the same position to succeed and things, and implying, hey, 240 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: I could do what he's doing if they would put 241 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 1: me in the same shoes. Right, So they sent him 242 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 1: home today? Why not? I mean, because he's not gonna 243 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:39,439 Speaker 1: be back next year. He's not going to be back 244 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: next I mean, he's proven to be a mercenary year 245 00:12:42,000 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: after year. And yeah, I can't say we're shocked. And 246 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: one of our favorite things that Mike pursued and I 247 00:12:49,720 --> 00:12:53,720 Speaker 1: do every Thursday with the Merdes is Preston Prestigenavian Clowney. 248 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: We get to do it twice a year and he 249 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,680 Speaker 1: goes on and on, and last night we pushed the 250 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: clowny button and Merrow's right though. I mean, he's a 251 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: disruptive player. His highlight tape is impressive, but he's not 252 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 1: an edge bender. He's very unassignment assignment unsound runs the 253 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:15,840 Speaker 1: wrong way at times, you know. I mean you could 254 00:13:15,840 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 1: see why teams hang on, you know, take a chance 255 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: on him for a year or so and be like, yeah, 256 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: we'll find somebody else, you know. So so without him 257 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 1: at defense of one of the defensive I would say 258 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 1: he's not playing. They sent him home on a Friday 259 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 1: he's not playing and he's never gonna be. And then 260 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: Myles Garrett came out today after practice and said, we 261 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 1: want we want volunteers, not hostages. So he's gone and 262 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: their D line's got nothing else besides, so you're looking 263 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: at are already terrible? Yeah, Myles Garrett, Alex right, Chase 264 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Winovitch as their defensive ends. Um, I like you to 265 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: get doubled from time. I like Chase Winovitch as a player. 266 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if it wouldn't be a bad three 267 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: behind Wat as an outside line back right, not as 268 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: a standing like a hand in the dirt defense defensive end. 269 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: It's not going to work. No, he's light for that. 270 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 1: And they're going to run all over the Cleveland Browns, 271 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,960 Speaker 1: I think, So, I mean, just give them. You have 272 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: the depth straw right there, right. Yeah. The D tackle 273 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 1: names are I mean, we laughed about those in July, 274 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: like this is what they're going to roll out at 275 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: D tackle and it's just as bad as we thought. Yeah, Jordan, Elliott, 276 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: Taven Brian are the starters. Uh. Ben still with with 277 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: an E not the R on the end of it, 278 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: So it's not Ben still Er. Uh he can at 279 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: least crack some jokes and maybe he can be funny man. Yeah, 280 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: Perryan Winfrey and Tommy Togia Okay, I mean those three 281 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: young guys that are names. Yeah, I mean better haven't flourished. Yeah. 282 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: Brian's a former first round draft pick of the Yes 283 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,400 Speaker 1: Falcons Uh Jack Jacks. Yeah he was. It was the 284 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: year that they did well when they beat the Steelers 285 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: in the playoff. He was late. Yeah, and he's very good. 286 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 1: And one of my favorite description of any prospect is 287 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 1: taven Bryan is. I didn't invent this, but I wish 288 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: I would have. He's J. J. Watt with a lobotomy. 289 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a big, good looking pat that can 290 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: jump out of the gym and he's super fast and 291 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: just doesn't know what he's doing. You know. It's kind 292 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: of what he has been in the league for six 293 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: years now and still doesn't know what he's doing. I mean, 294 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: Garrett's great, the rest of the line is horrendous, and 295 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: the linebackers are probably people don't know either, Like Reggie 296 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: Raglan runs like a five tu if if the Steelers 297 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: let Miles Garrett get anywhere near Kenny Pickett in this 298 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: same I mean every same month, you should get double everyone. Now, 299 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: maybe that means winning. Which who's a pretty good pass rusher, right, 300 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 1: he may gets to you know, gets to the quarterback once, 301 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: but they're not going to get there consistently. And how 302 00:15:49,160 --> 00:15:50,960 Speaker 1: into it is Garrett going to be in the fourth quarter? 303 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, I have my doubts about that kind of 304 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: here's the how about the how about they pulled Ragling 305 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 1: off the scrap heap and you can't run? And I 306 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: mean none of these guys or who I mean I've 307 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: seen stories out of Cleveland this week that Reggie Raglan 308 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: this is the kind of game, this, this game against 309 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: the Steelers is a kind of game he was made for. 310 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: If everything's between the tackles, yeah, and if the Steelers 311 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: run the A and B gaps over over which they will, Yeah, 312 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: that's just he'll get a bunch of tackles and they'll 313 00:16:15,480 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: all be six yards down the field. And yeah, I 314 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: mean the league would have loved him in, but they're 315 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,880 Speaker 1: also starting. He's the week side guy, the middle linebackers, 316 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: Dion Jones, he's my size. Yeah, he's a running hit 317 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: two or fifteen pound type of dude. He's the third 318 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: down guy too. He's the nickel. You know. It's all 319 00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: well and good, but Atlanta gave him away for nothing, 320 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 1: just to get him off their cap. I mean, like, 321 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 1: we don't we don't want him at all. Please, I'm 322 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: lining up with a fullback like every just coming down. 323 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: Just keep smashing him in the mouth for you. Yeah, 324 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: he's definitely a space player on his best days, on 325 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 1: his best day, and he's not that guy anymore. And 326 00:16:50,560 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: the strong side guys Tony Fields, Okay, he's been a 327 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: journeyman too, alright, just journeyman. That's one of these guys 328 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: were starters. And Whencamp wrote A Body for Anyone for Anybody, 329 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 1: right Jones, they wanted to get rid of Raglan couldn't 330 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: get a job, you know, right, Like they're they're gonna 331 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: be starting like six guys on their defense who wouldn't 332 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 1: even I don't even know if they'd be on the 333 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: Steelers roster. Yeah, a lot of those names you mentioned 334 00:17:14,840 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 1: would not that they're gonna play a lot of snaps. Yeah, 335 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 1: I mean their secondary is good. Front seven minus Garrett 336 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: is bad, bad as bad as you see in the league. Um, 337 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: who are they playing at nickel? They've had injuries? Let 338 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: me think That's why I'm kind of is it a J. Green? 339 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:35,840 Speaker 1: Maybe I should know that, and I don't off the 340 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 1: top of my head. He had been playing Martin Emerson. 341 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: Emerson did and then he had to kick outside. I 342 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: think because we'd still questionable for this game. I don't 343 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: know if he plays. I don't know if he does 344 00:17:44,720 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: or not. Yeah, Like, if you them, you svantage of 345 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: playing a ward at the point? I mean I thought 346 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: they had two or three of those. Conklin's another one maybe, Yeah, Yeah, 347 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: I don't know what the advantage of playing those guys are. No, 348 00:17:56,359 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: but their corners are a little thin at the moment too. 349 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know who the nicola was off top, 350 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,440 Speaker 1: it must be Green. In fact, they've they've declared Conklin out. 351 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 1: So it's the dude from Cincinnati who's a fourth round 352 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: pick a year or so ago. Not particularly strong, but 353 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: he gets t J. Watt. Yeah. Do you like with that? Yeah? 354 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: James Hudson. Hudson, Yeah, I kind of like him in 355 00:18:16,240 --> 00:18:20,880 Speaker 1: the draft is a athletic, athletic, mold hum type of guy. Future. 356 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: He's not there. He's not there yet, maybe he never 357 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: will be, who knows, But he's had a long day. Yeah, 358 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:29,439 Speaker 1: it's uh, it's all kinds of sets up. I think 359 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:31,400 Speaker 1: they're a great opponent for this dealer for the Steelers 360 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 1: to a win then the other stuff. Feel pretty good 361 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: about Buffalo beating New England. On my podcast today, my 362 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 1: co host said, there's no chance Buffalo loses, like he 363 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: has no skin in the game, he doesn't care who 364 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:51,639 Speaker 1: I mean they Yeah, Damar Hamlin was talking today right like, 365 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: I'm sure there will be handling stuff on the Jumbo 366 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:58,199 Speaker 1: Trump and you're at home, and you know, like he's like, 367 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,479 Speaker 1: there's no way they're gonna lose. This is this offense. 368 00:19:01,640 --> 00:19:04,679 Speaker 1: You know, this has win one for the Gipper and 369 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: you have something to play for. And I mean, like 370 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: I could see Josh Allen not playing the fourth quarter 371 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: just because they're blowing them out, you know, not because 372 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: they're you know, worried about the rest and stuff. So 373 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: I think that one sets up great as as they 374 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,439 Speaker 1: don't throw a bunch of pick sixes or defensive or 375 00:19:18,440 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 1: special team score. Yeah that's I mean, that's the only 376 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,040 Speaker 1: way in New England wins as it is, it is 377 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,879 Speaker 1: let alone against this team that beat the ten in 378 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: their place, should be inspired. Yeah, that should be really inspired. 379 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: I mean, definitely Jets Dolphins is the that's the leg 380 00:19:34,000 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: of the parlay. I feel the least strength now, But 381 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, and partly it is tough. It is there's 382 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff that can happen. Um. I went 383 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: over all the different scenarios in previous years today on 384 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 1: Steelers dot com, so you can check that out. This 385 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: will be the seventh time under Mike Tomlin that they'll 386 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: go into this final game needing to win and then 387 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: also get help. I think they've won, I mean percentage 388 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: of they handled their side of it one, I believe 389 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: on five of those occasions. Interesting and they've they've gotten 390 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,919 Speaker 1: in twice, gotten in twice and some of them I'm 391 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,359 Speaker 1: sure we're like four things. Yeah, there were a couple 392 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: there that I mean they needed to win and have 393 00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:18,160 Speaker 1: four different teams loose. Yeah, you five leg like last 394 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: year was pretty unlikely, don't get me wrong, but you 395 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: only needed one game at the end. You know you 396 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: need an upset, but yeah, you need five things to happen. No, 397 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:28,399 Speaker 1: So it's it's gonna be interesting. I do think the 398 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 1: uh I think I don't think we're giving anything away 399 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: here for our picks early, but I think we both 400 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: feel like the Steelers are gonna win this. I will 401 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 1: pick the Steelers. I think the Browns can talk all 402 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 1: they want. I just think there's ten teams in the 403 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 1: league right now that might come into a game wound up, 404 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: but not leave it wound up. You know what I mean. 405 00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about you get through, you get it. 406 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,760 Speaker 1: You maybe get a good first quarter out of them, 407 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: and then you're down and stopping Nagy Harris Man, I 408 00:20:55,800 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: got to do this again. We're going to permute next week. 409 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: They're double teaming this like we've seen I've seen I've 410 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,639 Speaker 1: seen Myles Garrett. I don't want to say dog it 411 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 1: right right right, but all but I've seen him give 412 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: less than effort, and you know they save it, and 413 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: you know they know that they have value even when 414 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 1: they're not giving the players going the other way from them. 415 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 1: He's not chasing it down, right, take a double team 416 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: and just kind of patty Cake come a little bit. 417 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 1: I mean that stuff happens. I mean that's not unusual, 418 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: but why not. Yeah, he's not going to go out 419 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: there and play like he's uh, you know, fast time 420 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: fast time to Reachmond High you're tackled by Jefferson. 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