WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Ball Talk 0:00:02.120 --> 0:00:04.640 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:04.640 --> 0:00:12.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is nick 0:00:12.920 --> 0:00:16.880 Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 0:00:16.960 --> 0:00:22.160 official Dallas Cowboys APT now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 0:00:22.440 --> 0:00:45.760 and Nicky Spagnola m Friday. Somebody drive the top side stand. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:03.600 We are two days away from the state championship game. 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:09.280 It's the Cowboys and the Houston Texans, high noon at 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:13.200 at and T Stadium in Arlington. And it is high 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:18.000 noon on our fabulous Football Friday inside the SWBC podcast studio. 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:21.480 Bill Jones, Everson Walls and Mickey Spagnola. Did any of 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:25.080 you two gentlemen ever play in a state championship game? Heg? No. 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:31.280 That was our first year in for a football and 0:01:31.319 --> 0:01:34.760 we were happy to have a five six I think 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.400 with five five in one season. Yeah. I don't think 0:01:38.440 --> 0:01:42.000 we had playoffs when I was in high school. No, 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:48.000 I'm serious. Okay, Now we are definitely an old crew, don't. 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:52.240 I don't remember, like you know, basketball, we watched it 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.840 on TV, the state championship game. I don't remember anything 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:59.440 in football. Wow. That just lets you know how old 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:09.080 that show and he didn't grow up in Texas. Yeah, 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:13.000 my mac Arthur Cardinals, we won district and uh and 0:02:13.160 --> 0:02:17.440 by district. Remember Mike Ford and the Mesquite Skeeters quarterback. 0:02:17.480 --> 0:02:20.720 I played at SMU and UH lost to them in 0:02:20.760 --> 0:02:23.440 by district and they went onto the state championship game. 0:02:24.400 --> 0:02:28.799 We played in state champion basketball games. Good for you 0:02:30.520 --> 0:02:33.960 and a cute little brown ball and we won. And 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:37.480 we won the district tennis title too. And you were 0:02:37.520 --> 0:02:40.640 on that team tennis team, not the basketball team. I 0:02:40.720 --> 0:02:46.400 bet yeah, I could remember. My my junior high basketball 0:02:46.480 --> 0:02:49.679 coach was like, why aren't you guys trying out when 0:02:49.720 --> 0:02:51.919 we graduate? You know, we went to high school. None 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:55.359 of you guys tried out for the basketball team. Same coach. 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.720 You see the guys Rogers team. There's nobody out there 0:02:59.800 --> 0:03:05.600 that five six? Okay? Um, So you did play for 0:03:05.639 --> 0:03:10.000 a state championship in tennis? Uh, we played, we won district. Oh, 0:03:10.040 --> 0:03:12.280 but you had to quality. I mean the team you 0:03:12.280 --> 0:03:15.440 didn't win state, but one of our guys went to state. 0:03:15.560 --> 0:03:18.840 Oh okay, so close, and we happened to just get 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.720 sick on Friday, so we can go down to Champagne 0:03:21.800 --> 0:03:25.280 and and watch him play. Right, come back on Monday 0:03:25.320 --> 0:03:28.000 with an excuse. Right, Oh, but he had the flu, 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:31.959 and it's like, yo, yeah, you had the blue flu. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:34.120 I don't know, I'm looking this up, but I looked 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:39.760 up Illinois foot state football championships history. Okay, the first 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:44.720 Illinois state championship was in nineteen seventy four. Wow, So 0:03:44.760 --> 0:03:47.600 you're right. There wasn't a state championship when we didn't. 0:03:47.680 --> 0:03:50.760 They didn't have playoffs. You just won, you won year 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:55.400 league and that was it, as I remember, man, Yeah, 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:57.560 that's that's just how they do it there. They don't. 0:03:57.680 --> 0:04:02.560 That's like the Premier League. Correctly, football was not that 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:07.080 big at that time. Once again, yeah, that's just that's crazy. 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:10.360 All right. We do have playoffs in the National Football League, 0:04:10.440 --> 0:04:13.280 and I am here to predict that the Houston Texans 0:04:13.280 --> 0:04:16.240 will not be headed there, but the Dallas Cowboys well 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:19.480 on their way. And that nine and three trying to 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:23.839 get to ten and three on Sunday against this Texans team. 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.480 We're talking about that over the course of the next 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:30.200 forty five minutes. But did you watch Thursday Night Football? Oh? 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:33.039 I don't you believe that, man, I mean, this is 0:04:33.080 --> 0:04:37.000 just crazy, you know what I was I don't understand 0:04:37.080 --> 0:04:39.640 the NFL. I was watching that and I just had 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.480 a feeling. I said, you know what, there's they were 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:45.560 just hanging around too long. Weird, It's going to happen here. 0:04:45.640 --> 0:04:47.960 And that's why I was hanging around, just to see 0:04:47.960 --> 0:04:50.359 if something weird would happen. It was, it was. It 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:54.880 was the interception at came of the school. Yeah it's thirteen. 0:04:55.240 --> 0:04:56.640 It was thirteen to three and then they got to 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.240 sixteen to thirteen three. I think he threw the interception 0:05:00.000 --> 0:05:03.159 in the end zone on that lollipop pass. Well, you know, 0:05:03.240 --> 0:05:04.760 I think his arm got hit as he was trying 0:05:04.760 --> 0:05:06.839 to throw. He got hit by this side. See, I 0:05:06.880 --> 0:05:09.760 thought something happened. Yeah, you're talking about Derek Carr. Yeah, 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:11.839 as he was trying to throw. It either came from 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.760 here or here, but it was so slight, you know, 0:05:15.080 --> 0:05:17.640 you think he has stronger hands. He just can't put it. See. 0:05:17.640 --> 0:05:20.120 That's another case of you let a team hang around 0:05:20.279 --> 0:05:22.719 and hang around, and you look at the score and 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:25.720 you're going, our, kay, if this and this happens, they 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:28.400 win by one, right, But who thinks you're gonna throw 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:32.000 an interception in the end zone in schooling position? You know, 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.800 who thinks you're gonna get the ball with less than 0:05:34.839 --> 0:05:37.280 two minutes to go on the two yards two yard line, 0:05:37.320 --> 0:05:40.400 with no timeouts and no timeout with a quarterback who 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:42.920 arrived less than forty eight hours ago, he didn't even 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:46.039 know all the players and drive ninety eight yards right. 0:05:46.520 --> 0:05:53.880 So much for practice and that system must be really 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.440 easy up there in the la huh. Okay, So what 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.960 does the Matthew Matthew Stafford have to say about? Okay, 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:06.440 the the NFL. In the NFL, the overall the record 0:06:06.600 --> 0:06:09.800 in the NFL for teams that are that have a 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:14.760 thirteen point lead with four minutes left in the game, 0:06:15.000 --> 0:06:19.040 it's five hundred fifty one and four five hundred fifty 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:24.080 one wins and four losses since Winever. Okay. Two of 0:06:24.120 --> 0:06:27.120 them came in the span of four days. Monday night, 0:06:27.160 --> 0:06:29.320 Tom Brady did it but the first time in his 0:06:29.520 --> 0:06:33.359 career came back from a thirteen point deficit in the 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.560 fourth quarter to win a game, and he had the 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:38.800 two touchdown passes in the last three minutes of their 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.800 win over New Orleans on Monday night, and then on 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:46.480 Thursday night, Baker Mayfield, who was not in Los Angeles 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:49.719 on Monday night. He didn't get there until Tuesday night. 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:53.440 Right on Monday night. He was still he was still 0:06:53.440 --> 0:06:56.120 a member. No, he had been placed on waivers on Monday, 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.359 and the Rams picked him up on Tuesday, So he 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:00.680 didn't have a team on Monday, Like, you know what 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.680 did you listen to post game? He had. He had 0:07:02.960 --> 0:07:06.680 already scheduled a flight to la though, because he suspected 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:09.320 that the Rams would be I was an advertiser for 0:07:09.360 --> 0:07:13.480 Southwest steroids. I just caught Southwest, That's what he said. 0:07:13.480 --> 0:07:15.680 I called Southwest and I just had a feeling and 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.800 I booked a flight. That's crazy. Otherwise he wouldn't have 0:07:18.800 --> 0:07:20.480 got on a flight. He had been Wednesday before he 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.120 got there. I see, that's the kind of stuff that 0:07:22.360 --> 0:07:24.960 would happened back you know, with no playoffs in the 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:27.240 right right, that's the kind of stuff that would happen 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:30.440 back then. You don't have that happening. It just shows up. 0:07:30.480 --> 0:07:33.320 But it's like, hey, I'm here, oh man, that's that's 0:07:33.440 --> 0:07:35.800 that's the TV moment. Then. This is like when he 0:07:35.880 --> 0:07:37.480 was at Oklahoma yea, he had to sit out of 0:07:37.520 --> 0:07:40.080 here for transferring from Texas Tech, and I understand he 0:07:40.200 --> 0:07:42.960 played like intermural football during that time, and so he 0:07:43.000 --> 0:07:45.400 would just show up and at the intermural field and say, hey, 0:07:45.400 --> 0:07:47.520 you want me to play for you? I think that's 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:52.880 they had, right, why not? Don't overthink that? Yes, well 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.040 he can't. The only thing, there's not much information given 0:07:56.080 --> 0:07:58.240 to him there. The only thing that would have stopped him. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:02.560 It was that that crappy office offensive line the Rams. 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:10.640 Uh did you see who's starting at left? That they 0:08:10.760 --> 0:08:15.760 got no shot? Well, even more even more impressive than 0:08:15.880 --> 0:08:20.040 what Baker Mayfield did is tie In Secki was on 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:22.440 the street. He wouldn't with anybody a month ago. They 0:08:22.680 --> 0:08:24.760 no pa you know, you know what he didn't go 0:08:24.760 --> 0:08:28.080 to training. Who was going up against? Well, I mean 0:08:28.360 --> 0:08:31.040 the trap. Does Max Crosby go over to the right 0:08:31.080 --> 0:08:33.160 side of a Yeah, he's on the left side. And 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:36.920 so you got Chandler Jones man. Yeah, yes, yes, yes, 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:41.480 that's good. Yeah, credit to thirty six, thirty seven year 0:08:41.520 --> 0:08:44.960 old tie and Secky. They and they had Crosby over 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.960 there against the only veteran offensive lineman they had, and 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:52.320 he was smoking Haver what's his name, Havenstein, Rob Havenstein 0:08:52.679 --> 0:08:58.920 out Wisconsin, and he well sort of I mean for 0:08:59.000 --> 0:09:06.160 that last drive least couldn't disgrace ninety eight yards and see, 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.480 that's that's the kind of stuff that the Cowboys had 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:12.920 better avoid. You know. That was our Green Bay game 0:09:13.320 --> 0:09:15.240 right to where I was like, Okay, this guy, this 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.600 game is boring us. It's so easy. Well what was 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:21.120 the cowboyd the number? Losing a fourteen point lead and 0:09:21.480 --> 0:09:24.599 it was fourth quarter? Right, only one? Right, that was 0:09:24.640 --> 0:09:26.240 the first time. That was the first Yeah, that was 0:09:26.240 --> 0:09:30.520 the first time in the sixty two year history of 0:09:30.520 --> 0:09:36.760 the team. Right, yeah, But the Raiders get this. The 0:09:36.920 --> 0:09:43.559 Raiders now have had four games in which they've had 0:09:43.679 --> 0:09:46.760 I believe it's double digit leads at halftime and lost them. 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:50.600 It's the first time since the nineteen thirties that an 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:54.520 NFL team has had double digit leads at halftime and 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:58.600 four times have lost four times. When I walked in, 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.360 one of the Rams had them right when won them 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.040 the whole time? The right when I walked in, one 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.120 of the guards said, oh, the Raiders, they got to 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:06.960 blow that up. I said, I thought they were already 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:11.120 was to start over a new coach, Right, what do 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.520 you think the defense they were employed on the touchdown 0:10:13.960 --> 0:10:17.440 passed to Van Jefferson. That was just press. It was 0:10:17.520 --> 0:10:22.679 it was a undrafted rookie cornerback that was playing press 0:10:22.720 --> 0:10:26.520 coverage on Van Jefferson on the on that without any 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:29.560 safety help. What was the time twenty? It was twenty 0:10:29.600 --> 0:10:33.400 some second down to ten ten right by that time? Yeah, 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:35.720 and there, I mean's eight seconds left when they scored 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:38.440 and they had to go twenty Was it twenty yards? Well, 0:10:38.480 --> 0:10:41.360 there's like twenty three yard past three yards? Right? Why 0:10:41.480 --> 0:10:43.400 why are you playing up on the line of scrimmage? 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.400 And the safety he bit on the guy coming out 0:10:47.400 --> 0:10:50.360 of the slot and left that guy all by himself. 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.080 You know, at that time, I can tell you for 0:10:54.160 --> 0:10:58.480 a fact, there is panic time, all right, everybody at 0:10:58.480 --> 0:11:02.120 that time, it's just panic. No one can communicate because 0:11:02.160 --> 0:11:05.120 we're still trying to worry about what we just screwed 0:11:05.200 --> 0:11:09.680 up and much less trying to anticipate what's upcoming, you see. 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:13.120 So your awareness is all over the place. And that's 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:17.520 what happens when you go ninety eight yards the opposing defense. 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.920 By the time you get to have midfield, we're already 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.040 feeling like, okay, this is getting out of hand. Early 0:11:24.080 --> 0:11:25.920 on that drive, they get the sack, they do something 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.960 positive on defense, and then what happens. Jerry Tillery knocks 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.320 the football out of Baker's hands and get called for 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.199 a personal foul filty which which not only gave them 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.839 the first down in fifteen yards and also stopped the clock. 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:42.080 It was like a timeout for him. Yes, everything happened perfectly. 0:11:42.120 --> 0:11:45.200 Did the Raiders have a time out at the end. No, No, 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:48.880 I don't know, because what he would would hey he whatever. 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:52.960 Sin was just saying they should have called time out 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.440 and set their defense for the last plate, right once 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:57.679 you get down to that point, yeah, because right now 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.679 they had to get the ball back. And getting the 0:11:59.720 --> 0:12:03.400 ball back, yeah, yeah, spend it on defense. Wow. That 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:05.720 was that was that? Or once you get down there 0:12:06.000 --> 0:12:10.040 now it behooves you to go ahead and and use 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:11.760 your time out so that you get the ball. And 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:15.000 this is funny. So I'm watching the game right and 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:19.760 and we only have that channel on one TV because 0:12:19.760 --> 0:12:22.840 it's it's so my video. I know, it's so difficult. 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:26.040 You can't you can't channel sir. You got to get 0:12:26.080 --> 0:12:29.079 out and then you got to get back. I was 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:31.520 going to check the news, right, Oh no, I can't 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:35.160 do that right exactly, that is the biggest negative on 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:37.760 on that anyway. She asked me, why are you Why 0:12:37.760 --> 0:12:40.040 do you think you have to watch this game? I said, well, 0:12:40.200 --> 0:12:44.320 this is what I do. And she knows question, yeah, 0:12:44.400 --> 0:12:47.120 and I said, and she goes, well, I said, I 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.360 told it. I said, what if I have to talk 0:12:53.400 --> 0:12:58.319 about it tomorrow? But then this happened. It's like, see, 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:02.960 I told you, so that is a problem with the Amazon. Yea, 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:06.360 you can't like it. Let's say there's a basketball game 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.680 you want to watch at the same time. Whatever, you can't. 0:13:08.760 --> 0:13:10.840 It's so cumbersome getting out of it. And then you 0:13:10.880 --> 0:13:16.040 got to get back in spins and spins. And let's 0:13:16.080 --> 0:13:18.880 be clear, once you're down there before they throw the touchdown, 0:13:19.559 --> 0:13:21.880 you can't at your wits in you know. I mean, 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:26.120 what what defense can you play to stop it from 0:13:26.160 --> 0:13:29.439 just you know, just just just to plug up the holes. 0:13:30.120 --> 0:13:32.720 And I think that was really the only chance they had. 0:13:32.760 --> 0:13:36.080 Really you could have played it safer, but you can't 0:13:36.080 --> 0:13:39.160 play it too safe when you're close to twenty yard line. Yeah, 0:13:39.200 --> 0:13:41.920 you know, what can you do? There's still a bunch 0:13:41.920 --> 0:13:44.480 of holes in there that that you can't feel that 0:13:44.559 --> 0:13:47.640 close to the goal line. And once again, they were 0:13:47.679 --> 0:13:50.920 already whipped here, you know, right here, they were already done. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:54.280 It wasn't like they called a fancy play. Got just 0:13:54.360 --> 0:13:57.640 ran straight down the sideline. Can you believe there are 0:13:57.720 --> 0:14:00.920 times when game plans don't mean a damn thing. I 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.200 was gonna talk about this like this earlier this week. 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:05.520 There were times when when we play in games to 0:14:05.559 --> 0:14:08.280 where you know what, man, Mike, you're gonna take care 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:10.880 of them over there. I have got to handle this 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:14.560 guy right here by myself or desin clean scale is like, okay, 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:17.319 this tight in his mind. You worry about somebody on 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:20.400 the other side. There are times when you just have 0:14:20.520 --> 0:14:22.880 to go. You gotta go with your gut. You gotta 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:26.280 play Sandler. Yeah, you gotta play Sandler. We're doing that 0:14:26.400 --> 0:14:29.240 now with Diggs. But let Diggs travel with the best guy. 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:31.920 You know, that's not a that you can't find that 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:34.400 in the game plan book. This is what we're doing. 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.160 We're going to make sure that Diggs takes care of 0:14:37.160 --> 0:14:40.080 the biggest threat. And you know, sometimes you have to 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:42.560 just go off script because there's another part of this 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.440 that's bigger picture, and it has to do with coaching 0:14:46.480 --> 0:14:50.480 and coaching quarterbacks that all right. You look at Baker 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:55.680 Mayfield when he was at Carolina, the coach before the season, 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:58.480 basically he publicly he said, I'm not sure if this 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.840 guy's my quarterback or not. Okay, And I'm talking about 0:15:01.840 --> 0:15:05.600 a coach, a head coach, believing in a quarterback. And 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:08.640 that's one of the great positive things about Sean McVay. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.160 He has a very positive spirit about him. Baker shows 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.320 up on a Tuesday, and you got the feeling that 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:19.720 Sean McVay leaved that Baker Mayfield could do this, and 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:26.120 he left Baker Mayfield no exactly right, exactly, and they 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:29.080 prepared him as best they could. Got me thinking about that. 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:33.400 I mentioned before on this show that Sirius NFL Radio 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:35.880 Rich Gannon has a radio show on there, and I 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:38.480 listened to it all the time because a lot of times, 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:41.000 you know, he played for Mike McCarthy with Kansas City. 0:15:41.120 --> 0:15:43.240 McCarthy was his quarterbacks coach, and a lot of times 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:45.680 he'll throw in a little nuggets about McCarthy and stuff, 0:15:45.720 --> 0:15:49.720 and it's really educational. And he was talking this week 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.960 about well number one, he said, Mike McCarthy. If it 0:15:54.040 --> 0:15:56.360 wasn't for Mike McCarthy, he would not have had the 0:15:56.400 --> 0:16:00.160 career he had in terms of preparing learning how to 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:04.160 prepare as a quarterback to play in the NFL as 0:16:04.200 --> 0:16:06.320 far as game planning. When he was in Kansas City, 0:16:06.400 --> 0:16:09.200 and by that time gannon, I haven't looked up McGannon 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.520 was seven years into his career. He played eighteen years 0:16:12.520 --> 0:16:17.520 in the NFL. But so anyway, he said that about McCarthy, Okay, 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:22.240 that that, you know, McCarthy set him down, and he 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:24.640 would in the beginning of the week he would have 0:16:24.720 --> 0:16:27.880 it mapped out. As far as the game plan, it 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:32.640 was is very logical, and it took he took it. 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.760 You know, it hit with him. Whatever. His point on 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:37.800 it was like guy like Zach Wilson with the Jets, 0:16:38.640 --> 0:16:42.360 I guarantee you he has no clue how to prepare 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:45.800 to play quarterback in the NFL because he's so young 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:48.360 and inexperienced whatever. All right, But his point on all 0:16:48.440 --> 0:16:51.040 this was he said there were only two head coaches 0:16:51.040 --> 0:16:54.760 in his NFL career who he felt like really believed 0:16:54.800 --> 0:16:57.200 in him that he could do the job. One was 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:59.840 his high school coach and the other one was John Gruten. 0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:03.000 When he got to the Raiders, which was he was 0:17:03.280 --> 0:17:06.600 fifteen years in his career at that point. Whatever, yeah, right, 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.200 And he got me to thinking and think about Dak 0:17:09.200 --> 0:17:11.879 Prescott here. I mean, and we saw it when when 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.399 Garrett was the coach his rookie year. I mean, just 0:17:15.200 --> 0:17:18.280 what he instilled in him from a confident standpoint, just 0:17:18.480 --> 0:17:21.920 in training camp, you know, throwing with him after practice 0:17:21.960 --> 0:17:24.199 and stuff. It's instilling an abelief that you can do this. 0:17:24.320 --> 0:17:27.919 Even that was even before he became the starting quarterback whatever. 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:30.040 I mean, Romo was still you know, the starter than 0:17:30.080 --> 0:17:32.520 before he got hurt. And then McCarthy has done the 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:35.160 same thing with Prescott here. But I was thinking last 0:17:35.240 --> 0:17:37.919 night there it is with Mayfield. Mayfield when he was 0:17:37.960 --> 0:17:40.560 in college at Texas Tech, Kingsbury didn't believe in him. 0:17:40.560 --> 0:17:43.080 At Texas Tech, he had Patrick Mahomes and the edited 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:45.000 Davis Webb. He was like third on the depth chart 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:47.440 and he's a walk on. He didn't believe in him, 0:17:47.440 --> 0:17:50.280 to the point Thatt even offering him a scholarship after 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.479 he played in games as a true freshman. And that's 0:17:52.480 --> 0:17:54.840 why he left there and went to Oklahoma and goes 0:17:54.840 --> 0:17:57.760 to Oklahoma. Lincoln Riley believes in him, and he didn't. 0:17:57.800 --> 0:18:00.920 He won the Heisman Trophy there well leveland he probably 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:04.200 the coaches who know you know that was such a train, right, 0:18:04.480 --> 0:18:06.880 you know. And then but at the case end point 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:10.640 this year Carolina, the coach even said publicly, I'm not 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:12.720 sure if this guy yeah right, I can't do that. 0:18:12.840 --> 0:18:15.320 I don't understand. Yeah, I mean, if nothing else, I'm 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:18.760 gonna be I'm gonna be the guy in Denver. I'm 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:21.640 gonna be hacked. I'd rather be hacked than to be 0:18:22.040 --> 0:18:24.840 the guy in North Carolina. I'd rather be that guy 0:18:24.880 --> 0:18:27.560 that's over the top confidence about my quarterback, giving him 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:29.960 all the resources. And even as a cornerback in the league, 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:32.800 you probably have examples of that way. The coach believing 0:18:32.840 --> 0:18:35.159 in you gave you the confidence to be able to 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:37.720 do your job. And once that coach believes in you, 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:39.760 then your team may have wanted to look at you 0:18:39.800 --> 0:18:42.720 in the more positive light and instead of them being 0:18:43.119 --> 0:18:46.960 pessimistic about whatever your player is, they can see the 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:49.800 optim they can see where it's clicking for you and 0:18:49.840 --> 0:18:56.320 hopefully it does well. You brought up Lincoln Riley Well Mayfield, 0:18:56.920 --> 0:18:59.320 and maybe it was post game they talked to me, 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.480 they were asked about him and McVeigh being together and 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.000 it's like, what did you guys talk about? And it 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:06.840 was I guess it was after he got there and 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:11.719 he said, we were talking about Lincoln Riley. It's like 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.520 they didn't get into x's and ohs or whatever. It 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:19.840 just it's about style. It's about the style of court. 0:19:20.040 --> 0:19:23.879 Wasn't the victory of the uncluttered mind? I did Blaine 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:27.119 Kney Blade Knight said that about Clint Longley when Longley 0:19:27.480 --> 0:19:29.720 when this Thanksgiving that game it was a triumph of 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.080 the uncluttered mind. Yeah, it's like, okay, let's not get 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:38.000 too confusing, you know, and believing him. So they said, well, yeah, 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:40.200 you know, he didn't get the practice, but Hey's got 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:46.919 a helmet on. But they're gonna start Wolford and it's like, okay, 0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.359 enough of that. Seem they didn't have confidence in Wolford. 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:56.560 Didn't say it right right, he demonstrated, but he put 0:19:56.560 --> 0:19:58.879 the other guy in. He said, all right, it's like 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:03.240 Bayfield go say, we'll think about McVeigh with Jared Goff. Okay, 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.560 golf was horrible his first year. And then McVeigh gets 0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:08.240 there and all of a sudden, I mean, he led 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.360 the Rams to the Super Bowl. He did, he did, 0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.560 only it was only so much you could do with golf. 0:20:12.600 --> 0:20:16.119 And then look at Stafford beaten down from thirteen years 0:20:16.119 --> 0:20:19.200 however long in Detroit and then he wins the Super Bowl. Well, 0:20:19.240 --> 0:20:22.800 well you can see it last night. Mcvay's optimism. He 0:20:22.960 --> 0:20:26.200 never really like you know what I mean? The whole 0:20:26.240 --> 0:20:30.360 time he's like, okay, all right, I see something there, Yeah, 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:33.960 see something down. He was like, He's not like Jimbo 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:38.520 Fisher chewing out his wh This guy was straight up. 0:20:39.240 --> 0:20:41.920 And he also gave a guy some love who messed 0:20:41.960 --> 0:20:43.280 up on the player I can't remember, but he was 0:20:43.280 --> 0:20:45.480 patting him on the head. Come on, dude, we gotta 0:20:45.560 --> 0:20:49.240 do better. Yeah. Yeah, you mentioned Garrett and Dak, and 0:20:49.320 --> 0:20:54.760 so it came up yesterday in Dak's press conference, Um 0:20:54.920 --> 0:20:57.840 that what do you think about Jason being a finalist 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:00.960 for the Stanford job? And he goes, who do I 0:21:01.040 --> 0:21:04.960 need to call to give a recommendation? He goes I 0:21:05.200 --> 0:21:07.440 and he just went on and on and on what 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.520 Garrett did for him, right, and he said he'll be 0:21:10.680 --> 0:21:14.680 perfect college. Everyone says that I've heard that's three different 0:21:14.760 --> 0:21:18.320 I've heard from three different having said that he apparently 0:21:18.320 --> 0:21:21.600 has pulled himself out of the Last night, he tweeted 0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:25.320 that thanks for the opportunity, but I love my job 0:21:25.359 --> 0:21:28.879 with NBC. I always thought that's what he was meant for, 0:21:29.040 --> 0:21:31.800 to go coaching college. Well, I mean, you look at 0:21:31.840 --> 0:21:34.320 that situation at Stanford. It's a little up in the 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:37.520 air as far as you know. Conference alignment goes right 0:21:37.560 --> 0:21:40.000 now at USC and uc AL going. Who knows what's 0:21:40.000 --> 0:21:42.159 going to happen with the Pac twelve. So it's not 0:21:42.200 --> 0:21:45.200 the same job it was now. If Stanford goes into 0:21:45.200 --> 0:21:48.960 the Big ten, great, yeah, but it's right now that's 0:21:48.960 --> 0:21:52.480 not happening, so, which makes it a tough recruiting well, 0:21:52.480 --> 0:21:54.920 and that's the other thing for a for a guy 0:21:54.960 --> 0:21:59.399 an NFL coach to go to right now stuff. Anyway, 0:21:59.440 --> 0:22:03.080 it's a totally different jobs, totally different from a recruiting stadpoint. 0:22:03.119 --> 0:22:06.399 But now the transfer portal, yeah, it'd be crazy unless 0:22:06.400 --> 0:22:09.159 you've got to drive all these college coaches to the NFL. 0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.200 It used to be the other way, right, It's like, nah, 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:16.320 I ain't putting up but I think it's been proven 0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:19.480 time and again, with the exception of Jimmy Johnson. Although 0:22:19.480 --> 0:22:22.280 there was a learning curve there. Yeah, you know, and 0:22:22.960 --> 0:22:25.119 not a lot of college coaches can make the transition 0:22:25.119 --> 0:22:30.600 to the NFL either, And there's been several cases somebody 0:22:30.680 --> 0:22:32.720 working out, somebody was I don't remember who it was. 0:22:32.760 --> 0:22:35.680 They were talking about how the percentages have to be 0:22:35.760 --> 0:22:39.600 on your roster now in college. Butt better be in 0:22:39.640 --> 0:22:43.399 the transfer portal. You better be happy to go. I 0:22:43.400 --> 0:22:45.119 think it was I think it was Nate in Frisco. 0:22:45.160 --> 0:22:51.159 Who's talking about that Frisco talking about about about the 0:22:51.400 --> 0:22:54.040 on going. That's right, that's he was saying. Here's how 0:22:54.080 --> 0:22:56.280 he's got to put his roster together. And he's right, 0:22:57.480 --> 0:23:00.800 you better be in that transfer portal otherwise gonna lose out. 0:23:01.680 --> 0:23:03.960 Just get rid of the guys you don't want. All right, 0:23:03.960 --> 0:23:10.119 we're past time for our first break. Yeah, and there's 0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:12.520 plenty more still to come as we get you ready 0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:16.879