1 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: And we welcome you into episode number twenty three of 2 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: the Best Podcast Available twenty three episodes. Zigura, can you 3 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: believe it? That's quite impressive. Apropos the last dance going on, 4 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 1: Michael Jordan, I think you might have twenty three bananas 5 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: over your shoulder. It's a good number. It is a 6 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: good number, my friend, and you are very very observant. 7 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: I must have been shopping in the gis house. Yeah, 8 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 1: you're daring right. We have smoothies. I got a kid 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: that's working out five times a day because she has 10 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: nothing else to do. Basically fun times in the city 11 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: in the Gibbs Household. I'm Jason Gibbs alongside Andrew Gribble 12 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: and Nathan Zigura. It is the Best Podcast Available for 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 1: a Tuesday, the twelve of May two thousand and twenty 14 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 1: and guys, as we get things going. The first thing 15 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,400 Speaker 1: I wanted to talk about, and it actually I didn't 16 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: have it in the rundown, but it was something that 17 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: came to light late in the day on Monday. And 18 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: that's baseball taking a step money to becoming the first 19 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:12,199 Speaker 1: major sports team to return to business after the COVID 20 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 1: nineteen pandemic. According to the Associated Press. MLB owners approved 21 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,560 Speaker 1: a proposal to the Players Union could put the game 22 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: back on the field around the fourth of July, each 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: team playing an eight two games schedule. It includes starting 24 00:01:26,040 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: games and stadiums without fans spring training in mid June. 25 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: Teams were already in spring training obviously when the sports 26 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: world shutdown in March, a d h for all the teams, 27 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 1: expanding rosters to thirty, expanding and doubling the number of 28 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: wild card teams to create a fourteen team postseason. Guys, Uh, 29 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: the first major step we've seen from one of the 30 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: professional sports groups, and it's mijor League Baseball getting into 31 00:01:56,360 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: the swing of things, and the vote goes to the 32 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 1: players today. Later on today we'll go to the Players Union. 33 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: The Players Union already saying they have a lot of 34 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: questions in terms of health and how we're gonna keep 35 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,760 Speaker 1: everybody healthy and what happens if someone test positive, And 36 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: that seems to be the one, the one monster ball 37 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: hanging out their GRIBs is we really don't know what 38 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: happens if someone does test positive and what the game 39 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: plan is. Yeah, I still have pretty uh lengthy Twitter 40 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: thread uh from Sean Doolittle who's considered one of the 41 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: smarter players in baseball, and he raises a lot of 42 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: good points, and I think that us in the media, unfortunately, 43 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 1: we focus a lot on watching these games and the 44 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,480 Speaker 1: safety of fans, but we haven't talked a ton about 45 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: the safety of players. And and I know baseball is 46 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: not the most contact sport, but those clubhouses are are 47 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,079 Speaker 1: the ripe environment for for where this disease has kind 48 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: of flourished, and I think that's the that's the concern 49 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: that he has along with others. But you know, I'm 50 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: excited that they've kind of line something up and then 51 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: they're the first major UH league who's games have been 52 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: canceled that have have been able to to get a 53 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: plan together, and I'll be interested. First off, the thing 54 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 1: that stuck stood out to me is that spring training 55 00:03:09,480 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: usually happens in Florida and Arizona in the spring, uh, 56 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: not the summer. It's gonna be hot. Uh, that's gonna 57 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:17,760 Speaker 1: be a pretty rough atmosphere imagine for those players. But 58 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: I'm sure they're just gonna be excited to get to 59 00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,480 Speaker 1: get back out there. I just hope that there for 60 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: the no fan games. I'm hoping they're just as creative 61 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: as the Korean Baseball League, which I've seen some amazing 62 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: fan cutouts so far watching those games already. I just 63 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: think it's a positive thing overall. Right, we get in 64 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: the bundes Laga back, We're getting premier league back June one, 65 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: so this is good and it's advance of the NFL. 66 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: So people are gonna be able to go through and 67 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: and hopefully provide a road map for the NFL, and 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: mistakes will be made, i'm sure along the way, and 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: you'll have an opportunity to to to see those, see 70 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: how they're dealt with, and then see what you need 71 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: to do, what needs to be in place. So I 72 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: think it's great news for the sports world in general, 73 00:03:56,200 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 1: and we'll see, you know, how these things move forward. 74 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 1: And even if you know the MLB be a they 75 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: can't agree on this initially, just having the premier league 76 00:04:03,680 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: in the Bundeslague in Europe, I think is is big 77 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: because that's gonna really kind of start things going and 78 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: they'll be i'm sure dialogue between all the major sports 79 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: leagues in America and those major sports leagues so that 80 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 1: they can get a feel for this. And I think 81 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: it's good that others are going. And by the way, 82 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: if other leagues go and show success, that's gonna make 83 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: it so much easier for the NFL to move forward 84 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: this fall. Yeah, and you said it, it's a starting point. 85 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: We had to start somewhere, So let's start and figure 86 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: it out. Hopefully in the next three months we can 87 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: have some things figured out in terms of professional sports, 88 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: so that way the NFL U can get underway. And 89 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,279 Speaker 1: again the NFL with that luxury of really not needing 90 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 1: to start. I mean, we're all slated to start September, 91 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 1: but obviously if it needed to push back a couple 92 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 1: of weeks, we would have that luxury as well. All right, So, 93 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 1: now what from an NFL standpoint, And that's how we 94 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: kick off today's best podcast available. What happens next for 95 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 1: the NFL and the Browns. Now that the Draft is over, 96 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: free agency is just about in the rear view mirror 97 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: and and fading quickly. There's still some things to be happening, 98 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: and still some things uh to be decided in terms 99 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,480 Speaker 1: of players and who goes where. But for the most part, 100 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 1: these are the teams. This is the roster we're going 101 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:29,839 Speaker 1: to have as we go to whatever training camp we're 102 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: going to. But for the last few months, it's been nice. 103 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: We've had NFL free agency, we've had the draft to 104 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: look forward to. Now it's everybody's kind of been a 105 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: wait and see mode GRIBs as we approach the next milestone, 106 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: which would be the start of training camp. Yeah, I 107 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: do feel like we missed out on an annual tradition 108 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: of prematurely crowning rookies and superstars after the rookie Minicamp. 109 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: I mean that is none other uh, in in Maria 110 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: and every every other area in the NFL. I mean, 111 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: you see some of these guys go first round picks, 112 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: going up against guys that are not even gonna make 113 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: an NFL team this year. They can look pretty special, 114 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,760 Speaker 1: but you know, they went through the virtual offseason program, 115 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: uh this past weekend. I mean, and it's just gonna 116 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: be about them coming together in a really unique way. 117 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's that's kind of the story 118 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: of of what's going on now. I Mean, you've got 119 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: about a month left of this kind of program, and 120 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: then you have that month and a half where we're 121 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:24,280 Speaker 1: all supposed to go on vacation and get ready for 122 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 1: the season. It's that that might be the most different 123 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: part of this is we might be busier during that 124 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: time to catch up on some of the other other stuff. 125 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: So again it's a lot of wait and see. I 126 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: would say the next month is going to be very different, 127 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: But then that month and a half for training camp. 128 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: That's what these guys are usually always doing at that 129 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: time of year. So it's just gonna be about where 130 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: the country is and and how everyone's ready to go. 131 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: And I think the mindset is getting everyone mentally ready 132 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: for a real training camp at the end of July, 133 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 1: because that's the optimistic outlook right now. Yeah, that's the goal. 134 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 1: And all the guys that I've talked to said that, 135 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 1: you know, this, while it's unique, has actually gotten them 136 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,720 Speaker 1: more focused when they've gotten into their playbooks when they 137 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 1: go into those meetings, because that's kind of what their 138 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 1: day is built around, and so you know, when you 139 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: have this kind of the monotony of the same day 140 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: over and over in this period, when they get to 141 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: dial in and and lock into the playbook and the 142 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: coaches and the meetings, they said that they've actually found 143 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 1: that it's making them more engaged. And so I think 144 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: that's a good thing, because all you can do right 145 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: now is trying to win the mental side of this, 146 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: trying to master your playbook, trying to understand all the 147 00:07:28,720 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: calls and the checks on the defense, all the little 148 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: things that you need to do, the mental reps. That's 149 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: all you can master right now. Keep yourself in shape, obviously, 150 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: But if if the buy in is there, and it 151 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: seems like it is, and these guys are really focused, 152 00:07:40,200 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: you know, we might really be able to hit the 153 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: ground running when we finally get everybody back here for 154 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: training camp. And the other thing though it was sad, 155 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: other than crowning the rookies, is you didn't get to 156 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:51,239 Speaker 1: see the guys who get invited to that rookie camp, 157 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: like a Taylor Gabriel a few years ago who turned 158 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: that into an NFL career. And because of what happened 159 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: this year, you know, there aren't gonna be those Cinderella 160 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 1: stories unfortunately, no question about it. I mean, that's and 161 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: there are plenty of guys to watch because the Browns 162 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: had quite the quite the hall after the draft was 163 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: over in terms of securing some of the best undrafted 164 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: rookies from the NFL Draft we're all in wait and 165 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: see mode, and we'll see how things play out. One 166 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: thing we do know is that NFL schedule, and specifically 167 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,680 Speaker 1: the Brown schedule is out. Gribbs and I did a 168 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: b p A about it, Zagara, you and Bo Bishop 169 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: were doing the virtual schedule release show with a cornucopia 170 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,840 Speaker 1: of stars. And I know that we've all had a 171 00:08:37,840 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 1: few days, yes, all, we've all had a few days 172 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: to take a look at that schedule and really kind 173 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: of break it down and analyze it. And now that 174 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,920 Speaker 1: I have both of you guys together in one zoom, 175 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to get a few takeaways from both of you. 176 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: The first one, what would be your first airing of 177 00:08:56,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: grievances with the schedule maker? If we're talking king, Uh, 178 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: the NFL schedule, specifically the Brown schedule is a girl. 179 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: I'll start with you. I don't know that I really 180 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: have any grievances, to be honest with you. I mean, 181 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: do you want to open up on the road in Baltimore. No. 182 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,439 Speaker 1: But at the same time, it's a no lose situation. 183 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,079 Speaker 1: You are not expected to win that game. Uh, you 184 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 1: get to play free. It's gonna be something that you 185 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: know they haven't seen from us before. We're a new team, 186 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: new head coach, new offensive system, so maybe you have 187 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,840 Speaker 1: a chance to catch them, you know, by surprise. And 188 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: we've had success in Baltimore. We won their last year, 189 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: so I don't really have any grievances. Would I'd like 190 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: to see us get you know, a third primetime game, sure, 191 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:38,839 Speaker 1: but I'm fine with us flying under the radar right now. 192 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: I think that's actually a very good thing for this 193 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: football team. And and I love the balance of the schedule, 194 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: eight games by eight games. I love the fact that 195 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: every quarter of the schedule has two home and two road. 196 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: It's really laid out, I think, pretty nicely for the 197 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 1: Cleveland brown So so I don't mind it at all. 198 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,280 Speaker 1: And we get to go to Jacksonville at the end 199 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,199 Speaker 1: of November, so that was good timing. I would have 200 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:00,400 Speaker 1: had a grievance if they put that Jacksonville road trip 201 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: in September. Alright, the more I've thought about it, I don't. 202 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 1: I get sick of hearing this talking point about the 203 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: Browns and Thanksgiving. I wanted the Browns to play on 204 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving against the Cowboys, and I'm sick of hearing people say, oh, 205 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: it's because the Brons weren't very good last year. That's 206 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: not the reason at all. I think that they're playing 207 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 1: the Redskins this year. They stink like that. I know 208 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 1: it's a division game, but that's not a good matchup. 209 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: Last year, the Cowboys played the Bills on Thanksgiving. No 210 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:31,320 Speaker 1: one thought the Bills were gonna be good going into 211 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,680 Speaker 1: that season. It has nothing to do with the Browns 212 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: record last year and why they're not playing a Thanksgiving 213 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 1: I would have liked the Thanksgiving game. It hasn't happened 214 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 1: since the eighties. Let's get the bronze back on Thanksgiving. 215 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:43,200 Speaker 1: I think that would have been a huge matchup. So 216 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: I would have rather had that Cowboys game on things. 217 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: I would even I would give you two options. You 218 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: could have gone Thanksgiving afternoon in Dallas or play that 219 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: game against the divisional opponent Thursday night. Yeah, let's let's 220 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: get I think I would have preferred the Cowboys because 221 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,839 Speaker 1: I feel like that's like a Thanksgiving staple, like this 222 00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 1: night game. I I almost rarely watched that night game. 223 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: I'm I'm just I'm done by that time, and Dad, 224 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,679 Speaker 1: I'm thanks. The problem is the work day for us, 225 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: like we're in. We're often running at nine the day 226 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: after Thanksgiving. Yeah, so that that's my grievance. I know 227 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: the easy grievances, the back to back New York's at 228 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 1: the end of the season. But that's that's a personal 229 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: issue for the for the players. I don't know if 230 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: that that matters there. It's just like going on two 231 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: short road trips back to back. It's not. It's just 232 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: the same stadium, same locker room, same nice hotel, just 233 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: different colors. When we can'll be blue, when we can'll 234 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: be green. I just want to know if I can 235 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,560 Speaker 1: keep all the radio gear in the booth and not 236 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 1: have to pack it all up at the end, that 237 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: would be spectacular. Uh. Next up, toughest stretch for this team, Gribble, 238 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: We'll start with you. I know you had some thoughts 239 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: last week. Is to this. I want to know if 240 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: they've changed at all now that you've blocked up the schedule. Uh, No, 241 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 1: they have not, because I think that it's the post 242 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: by stretch that you have with the Texans, Eagles, Jags, Titans, Ravens. 243 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: I mean that makes or breaks your entire season, and 244 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 1: I think that's that's a that's that's one of the 245 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: tougher stretches you're gonna have, uh during the entire season. 246 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: And I just think that if you if you can 247 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: come out of that stretch three and two, you're probably 248 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: in good shape going down the stretch and playing some 249 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: meaningful football the rest of the way. Yeah. I like 250 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,480 Speaker 1: the fact that you're coming off your bye week for 251 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: the Texans, You'll have been at home for a month 252 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: by the time you face the Eagles, and and then 253 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: hopefully you can take care of business in Jacksonville. So 254 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: if you can get one of those two home games 255 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: and then get the one in Jacksonville, as you said, 256 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: I think you're on your way to having a little 257 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,840 Speaker 1: bit of success there. I'll go just for a different 258 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: portion of the schedule. I'll go starting Week four at 259 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: Dallas home for the Colts, at the Steelers, at the Bengals. 260 00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: That's a that's a stretch you gotta go to into it. 261 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: You've got it at least, you know, and three and 262 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: one would be ideal, But that's a stretch you gotta 263 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: go too. And two and with two very difficult road 264 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: games against the Cowboys and the Steelers, and the Colts 265 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: are no slouches with Philip Rivers there and he's played 266 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: very well against us whenever he gets opportunity. And then 267 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:02,480 Speaker 1: you gotta go on the road and take on a 268 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: Bengal Steam and we lost in Cincinnati last year. I know, 269 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: a totally different team on both sides of the ball 270 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: and on both sides of the of the field and 271 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 1: that one. But I think that's a tough stretch. Three 272 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: out of four on the road and two of them 273 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: very very tough games at Dallas and at Pittsburgh. Do 274 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,080 Speaker 1: we make too much of Week number one and the 275 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: Browns needing to win Week one? They don't have to win. 276 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: They don't have to win Week one. They're ten point 277 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: underdogs right now. So I like that though they can 278 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: you can play that we're not getting any respect. We 279 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:31,160 Speaker 1: beat that team by double digits last time we were 280 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:32,719 Speaker 1: in Baltimore if it wasn't a late touchdown, and to 281 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 1: beat him by twenty, So I don't mind that at all. 282 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: And no, you don't have to win that one. What 283 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: you do have to do is make sure you come 284 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 1: home and in the next two weeks you take on 285 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: the teams that picked first and second in this draft 286 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: at home, you've got to win those. You've got to 287 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: be two and one at worst after three games. Yeah, 288 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 1: I I just think I've seen so many home season 289 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: opening losses. It's just you want to win one of these. 290 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,160 Speaker 1: This is not the year where it's a must win, 291 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: like I I it. I mean, as bad as last 292 00:14:01,840 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: year's season open it was, and that was as bad 293 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: as it gets in terms of just everything going wrong. 294 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,960 Speaker 1: That game didn't deraate. That's not the reason the season 295 00:14:09,080 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: went astray. Like you had time to recover. You felt 296 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,719 Speaker 1: good after being the Jets on Monday night, Week two. 297 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: You just need to recover. I mean, maybe I would 298 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 1: say it was maybe a must win. If it's the 299 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: Redskins at home to open the season, maybe then I'll 300 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: call it. I would call it a must win. But 301 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: at a team that hasn't lost a regular season game 302 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 1: since you last played a week before last year, I 303 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: can't get too caught up in it. It would just 304 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: make winning all that sweeter. I mean, that would just 305 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: be a huge way to start the year. If you 306 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: can win that game, Yeah, no question about it. All 307 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 1: right to make the playoffs. If you're the Cleveland Browns, 308 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: what give me the record? They have to have at 309 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: home and the record that they have to have in 310 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: the division. Gribble, I'll start with you. I would go 311 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: five and three at home. That that gets you in 312 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: a position where you can potentially maybe go four and 313 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: four in the road and maybe sneak into the playoffs. 314 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 1: So five and three is probably the minimum. Uh, And 315 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: I think the division, you've probably got to go forward two. 316 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: I think with the way that this thing is set up, 317 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: especially if you're dealing with the seven team playoff format, 318 00:15:14,640 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: you're gonna want to have a better edge over your 319 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: division fos. Who imagine if we're talking about seven teams 320 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 1: in the playoffs, you're you're probably including the Ravens and 321 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 1: Steelers in the mix there as well. Yeah, I think 322 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: probably that's right. I think five and three and help. 323 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 1: I still think you can go three and three in 324 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: the division if you split and still have an opportunity 325 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 1: to make it. But yeah, you want to go four 326 00:15:33,640 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: and two and you want to sweep somebody, and that's 327 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: something we haven't been able to do. Last year. We 328 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: got the point where we did split with everybody. Now 329 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: we need to set it up and we need to 330 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: sweep somebody this year and so I think that's the 331 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: right record for to look. You gotta be nine and 332 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: seven to be in the conversation period. I mean, however 333 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: you get there. Truthfully, it doesn't matter. You've got to 334 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: get there, and you've got to be at a minimum 335 00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: nine wins ten wins. I think you feel pretty good 336 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,720 Speaker 1: about your chances, and there's a there's a path to 337 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: ten wins. I mean, I really think there is a 338 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: nice path to ten wins. But you've got to handle 339 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: your business and you're gonna have to be you know, 340 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:07,560 Speaker 1: some very good football teams you play. There's some good 341 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: teams on the schedule. I really think starting fast though, 342 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: is important for this team. And yeah, at two and 343 00:16:13,120 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: two after four, that's right where you were a year ago. 344 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: I think that that would be fine. But you've got 345 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: to try to get up above that five hundred. If 346 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: you somehow could go three and one in the first quarter, 347 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 1: knowing that you played the Steelers, I mean the Cowboys 348 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 1: and the Ravens on the road, then you're feeling pretty 349 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: good that confident. It's you've got the Colts at home. 350 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 1: They've all said your four and one and then not. 351 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: Now the season is all before you and so I 352 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,280 Speaker 1: think it's just critical that we don't get behind the 353 00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: eight ball because with this team and the personalities on 354 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: this team, and the way the media focuses on us 355 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: having some success, I think we'll go a long way 356 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: to snowballing starting off and getting all the questions, and 357 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: that would not be ideal after last year. And by 358 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: the way, I think we're gonna be much better than 359 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: people think we are. I think Baker Mayfield is gonna 360 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: have a tremendous season. I think this offense is gonna 361 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: be great for him. I know, I don't want to 362 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: be third bullet point under in the hunt on Week twelve. 363 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,120 Speaker 1: On the on the ground, we want to Yeah, I've 364 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: had enough of that these last two years. Yeah, we 365 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: want to be in. If the playoffs started today, the 366 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: Browns will be in. That's where you want to be. 367 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:17,320 Speaker 1: I don't want to start doing tiebreakers and weird math 368 00:17:17,440 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: and no four way scenarios. I mean, that's for the 369 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: You're the king of that, Gribble. Well, I do remember 370 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: you are the master at that. I do my job, 371 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: you do it well, my friend. I just know that 372 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: if I have a question, Gribble will know, and Gribble 373 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: will handle it. I would like meaningful football on December fourteen, 374 00:17:39,119 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: that's a Monday nighter here against the Ravens. I would 375 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: like a meaningful football game on January three against the Steelers. 376 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,320 Speaker 1: And if you want to flex that, I'm fine doing 377 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: that too. By the way, I hope that isn't a 378 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:52,439 Speaker 1: meaningful game and that we're already in the playoffs and 379 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: that we can just laugh at them as they're trying 380 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: to get in and we can end up knocking them out. 381 00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: How about that. It's kind of a hot take. Why not? 382 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: I haven a hot take. Let's just way. The only 383 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,160 Speaker 1: way it's not meaningful is if you've got that one 384 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,119 Speaker 1: seed locked up now you can't even lock up the 385 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: two seeds. It's true, you're gonna They've made it so 386 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 1: you're playing meeting for football no matter what. It probably 387 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: go ahead. Who thought the Ravens were gonna be fourteen 388 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: and two? Who thought they were gonna be the one 389 00:18:14,200 --> 00:18:19,639 Speaker 1: seed a year ago? Let's go, they've won the same 390 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: number of playoff games as we have the last two years. 391 00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: No big deal, that's a question. Now, that's what they're 392 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: dealing with when we beat them. If if the Browns 393 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:29,200 Speaker 1: beat them and weak one. That's what they're gonna be dealing. 394 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: Can they win the big one? Are they rattled? As Lamar? 395 00:18:31,080 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: Really the guy? Is he a great regular season quarterback? 396 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: What's going on? We can do a lot with a 397 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 1: win week one plane ride home, Maybe it'll be a 398 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: virtual plane ride for us. Maybe we'll get the fire 399 00:18:42,040 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 1: trucks out there again, serenade, serenading us, welcoming us, the 400 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: conquering heroes. Did you see that in the last dance? 401 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: When that was in the last dance when they got 402 00:18:52,880 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: that was from winning the NBA title A little bit different. Yeah, 403 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: there were reasons, a big picture. So NBC has flex 404 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: schedule rights weeks five through sixteen, So the first four 405 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: and the last one there's no flex. Uh, they don't 406 00:19:11,720 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 1: have a say. Why not the entire season if there's 407 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: no fans? And same thing with ESPN if there are 408 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: going to be no fans in the stands. We all 409 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: hope there are and we're planning for there to be, 410 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: but if in some situation there aren't, should ESPN and 411 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: NBC have a flex option for the entire year? Or 412 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: with the ESPN do you go, hey, you can flex 413 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: four games? Knowing full well that the TV contract is 414 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: up at the end of the year and it's gonna 415 00:19:45,520 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 1: be time for someone to get paid. I think some 416 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: of that's gonna have the schedule. The schedule is made 417 00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:51,120 Speaker 1: and you know what the matchups are. And by the way, 418 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: if you look at it, this is the best Lady 419 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: games ESPN has gotten in a long long time. Not 420 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 1: a coincidence based on what you are alluding to at 421 00:19:58,080 --> 00:20:00,480 Speaker 1: the end the contracts of everybody's getting great game. I 422 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: don't mind it. I think you need the flex. You 423 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 1: know it's starting in week five. That's when you need 424 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 1: it more of the second half of the season. If 425 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,119 Speaker 1: somebody thought was gonna be good ends up not being good. Otherwise, 426 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: I think I think they're good with that. I like it, 427 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,200 Speaker 1: and it's fun to look forward to the prime time matchups. Yeah, 428 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of like it's hard to be 429 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: like a surprise team in like the first couple of 430 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,440 Speaker 1: weeks where you're like, man, we gotta get that team 431 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: on on Sunday Night. I also to get a little 432 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: inside baseball. I think there's a lot of work that 433 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: needs done pre production wise for these broadcasts, and you 434 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: know those graphics and features don't make themselves. I mean 435 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: they've gotta they've gotta get those things done and then 436 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: their plan for the rest of the way. So I 437 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,320 Speaker 1: mean CBS does this with their early college football games too. 438 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: I think it's it's fine if they really if you 439 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: mess up a week one through five Sunday night match up, 440 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: that that's just bad scheduling, to be all right. That's 441 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: a little talk on the Browns schedule as a goes 442 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: right now on Tuesday, May twelveth We'll see what happens 443 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: a few months from now. Check back. I'm sure we'll 444 00:20:59,040 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 1: have the latest things developed. Uh. Peter King, as I 445 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: wanted to talk about in his Football Morning in America 446 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,439 Speaker 1: column today, I should say yesterday. Uh, with an I 447 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 1: think on his ten things, I think number one, I 448 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: think there's more than one team right now, thinking that 449 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: in the age of the virus, any road trip that 450 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: is a two hour flight or shorter will be day 451 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: of game travel. And he points out the Ravens have 452 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,919 Speaker 1: three home games, a bye week, and two road games 453 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: between September one November seven. The road games at Washington, 454 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: the thirty one mile bus ride at Philly, a one 455 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 1: six mile bus ride, and then the Ravens flying five 456 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 1: times in the last nine weeks at Indie, at New England, 457 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: at Pittsburgh, at Cleveland, at Cincinnati. The longest flight eighty 458 00:21:51,320 --> 00:21:56,199 Speaker 1: two minutes to Indianapolis. Obviously, it doesn't make sense for 459 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: every team, but it clearly is something to monitor as 460 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,439 Speaker 1: we go. Gribble your thoughts on teams getting up really 461 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: early on Sunday morning and flying, getting off the plane, 462 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,160 Speaker 1: going right to the game, playing and flying home, Well, listen, 463 00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: if that's the healthiest thing you can do and the 464 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: way to keep people the safest as possible, then I'm 465 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: all for open minded thinking. At this point, I'm green 466 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: light thinking with all of this stuff. I'm not trying 467 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,640 Speaker 1: to stop any potential idea. I would say it would 468 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: with the Ravens, their schedule mirrors ares obviously pretty closely 469 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: and the Browns, I mean, compared to last year, I 470 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 1: think the flight to Dallas might be the only long 471 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: flight the team has all year. Jacksonville's maybe a little 472 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: bit of a maybe a little bit over two hours, 473 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: but you know, that's about it. I mean, so the 474 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: schedule is pretty similar for the Browns as well. I 475 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: would just say that doing that flies in not part 476 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: of the pun It flies in the face of like 477 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,280 Speaker 1: everything we've been told about getting these guys bodies right 478 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: and and ready to go for for playing in these games, 479 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: and that that that would be the question I would 480 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: have is you know we're we hear about guys locking 481 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: up on planes or you know there's three pound guys 482 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: stuffed in small seats. You want to give them time 483 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: to get their legs back. I mean, that's the thing 484 00:23:08,359 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 1: that you'd worry about. And and if if it could 485 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: or not, I don't know the answer lead to more injuries. 486 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: I mean that that that's stuff that all the medical 487 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: smarter people than me need to figure out. But again 488 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: green Light thinking, I'm I'm willing to get creative. Yeah, 489 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: it could make a lot of sense if you think 490 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: about we have back to backs in New York. Who 491 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: knows what's gonna be going on in New York at 492 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: that time, But the idea that you could fly in, 493 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:32,520 Speaker 1: get right into sanitized chartered busses, take those right to 494 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 1: the stadium, play, get right back into those again sanitized 495 00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 1: chartered busses, and get right back into your own plane. 496 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: It just limits the exposure on so many levels for 497 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: the team. So I think it could make a lot 498 00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: of sense in the games where you have short ones. Now, 499 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:50,120 Speaker 1: if that's something that teams do decide to do, if 500 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:51,920 Speaker 1: there's a handful of teams, because it's not gonna be 501 00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 1: feasible for every game, I think the NFL would do 502 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: a real We talked about flex scheduling a real service 503 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,639 Speaker 1: to say, you know what, we're gonna move some of 504 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 1: these game him to four. Like we're gonna have games 505 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,919 Speaker 1: that naturally teams have to fly in the night before. 506 00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: Let's leave those at one, and let's let if there's 507 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,760 Speaker 1: some same day travel, let's let those games before. Because 508 00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, if you're talking about the bodies, 509 00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: if you can get on a plane in New York 510 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: at ten land at noon, be to the stadium by one, 511 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 1: that's why I think that's and then you have, you know, 512 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: your three hours to really prepare for that game. That 513 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 1: probably feels pretty good to these players, and probably feels 514 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 1: pretty good just in general. As you know, we're fortunate 515 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: to travel with the team. These are short flights the 516 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: players are in. You know, it's not ideal. It's not 517 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: like an NBA plane or everybody gets their own luxury Recliner, 518 00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: But I think they would be fine under those auspices. 519 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 1: But I think that would be to your point with 520 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: creative thinking is saying, all right, let's look the schedule. Okay, 521 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 1: these people have to go the day before, Let's keep 522 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 1: them at one. These people who don't, let's make move 523 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,120 Speaker 1: some of those games to four to give them flexibility 524 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:55,159 Speaker 1: here on this travel. Yeah. I think it's something that 525 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:57,680 Speaker 1: bears watching and and anything. You bring up a great 526 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 1: point about moving maybe some of those day of travel 527 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 1: games a little bit later in the day, and it 528 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: goes back to we have a schedule. I think everything 529 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: is fair game to be moved around, especially, you know, 530 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: God forbid this virus rears its ugly head again for 531 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: a second round, as the experts have called it, late 532 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:24,679 Speaker 1: fall and into the winter months. Uh Mel Kuyper Jr. 533 00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 1: Has his way too early big board in position rankings 534 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 1: for the season and next year's draft. A little bit 535 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 1: of an overachiever. He's got Trevor Lawrence one. He's got 536 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 1: Justin Fields too, probably of America, with the other one 537 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:46,400 Speaker 1: percent being in Columbus would disagree with that. But can 538 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: you make an argument for Justin Fields to be the 539 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: number one quarterback. Gribble start with you, Uh No, I cannot. 540 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: I'll leave it. I think Trevor Lawrence would have been 541 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 1: the first round, within the first picking, maybe the last 542 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: two drafts. And I think he's barring an injury. That 543 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: would be my argument. If he gets hurt, then justin 544 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:09,400 Speaker 1: deals community, I just think Trevor Lawrence is really good 545 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: and I think he's one of those guys. This is 546 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 1: like an Andrew Luck type prospect. If you if, if 547 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: you will, with just the consensus, just how solid of 548 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: a player he is, smart, every kind of total package. 549 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: And I think that's why we're seeing a few teams 550 00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 1: already angling for themselves to to get maybe in that 551 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: number one spot. I will say this, when was the 552 00:26:31,119 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: last time the guy everybody expected to be the number 553 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,920 Speaker 1: one pick actually was the number one pick at quarterback? 554 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 1: It hasn't happened in a while. Probably Andrew Luck that 555 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 1: would probably be the that would be the last one, 556 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,399 Speaker 1: because he would have thought that Baker was not supposed 557 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: to be the number one pick. Kyler was not supposed 558 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: to be the number one pick. Joe Burrow to it 559 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:49,880 Speaker 1: was supposed to be the number one pick, not Joe 560 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,880 Speaker 1: Burrow so you never know. It sounds like they're both 561 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 1: tremendous prospects. I know everybody justin Fields a great player 562 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: in his own right. Lawrence, I would be shocked if 563 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 1: he ends up not being the guy. But then again, 564 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: we haven't correctly predicted that top quarterback, you know, a 565 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: few years in a row. So we'll see. We'll see 566 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,440 Speaker 1: what ultimately what happens with Trevor Lawrence. Certainly, every time 567 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: you watch him and you say, yeah, I get it, 568 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: and then let's not saying you don't when you see Fields, 569 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: but Lawrence has been there and been kind of groomed 570 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:17,399 Speaker 1: to be this guy for a few years. As you 571 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 1: mentioned Andrew Lux, probably the last time you had somebody 572 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 1: where it felt like that, Yeah, Lawrence in this draft 573 00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: would have been interesting. Lawrence versus Burrow with the season 574 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,720 Speaker 1: Burrow had, that would have been incredible, And I think 575 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: there would have been some divided people on that. Yeah, Gribble, 576 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: what would you have done? That was what I was going. 577 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: I wanted to double back on. If Burrow and Trevor 578 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 1: Lawrence are available to you, the owner of the bengalsure 579 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: Mike Brown at number one, who are you taking? I'm 580 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: taking Trevor Lawrence. I just think he's a better prospect, 581 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: and I think that you that you'd have to go 582 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,679 Speaker 1: with full body of work. And you know, Burrow had 583 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: one really good season and that was good enough to 584 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: be the number one pick and would have been the 585 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: number one picking a lot of drafts. I just think 586 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: Lawrence is probably the better quarterback, right if you're Washington 587 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: at number two in this in that situation, I would 588 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: almost have to guarantee someone's coming up to number two 589 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: to grab him. No, I'm staying there and I'm picking 590 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 1: one of those two guys, like a hundred percentre throw. 591 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: Haskins experiments over over. Somebody els send him to Jacksonville. 592 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 1: They need a quarterback. With the Cardinals game with Josh Rosen. 593 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, you think you've got that guy and Lawrence 594 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: and Burrow. If you could get one of those two, 595 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: absolutely not even not even a question in my mind, 596 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't even listen. I'd be I'd listen to offers. Now, 597 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: if Miami offered me five, if they have their three 598 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: first rounders, then I might really think about because I 599 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: can talk myself into the two of Jami's pairing and 600 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: then go ahead and load up in the draft, so 601 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: we'll see, but I would I would probably stay. It 602 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 1: would have to be something to completely blew my mind 603 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: otherwise I just would have stayed there and taken the quarterback. 604 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,560 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks the most important thing in the NFL, because it's 605 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: not just having a good one. You have to have 606 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,400 Speaker 1: a truly elite one. Sometimes having a good quarterback who's 607 00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: not great, it's almost worse because you're constantly gonna be 608 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 1: kind of good, but you're never gonna be able to 609 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: win the Super Bowl. And it's if you look in 610 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: the recent history, especially go back in the early two thousands, Yeah, 611 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: you could win super Bowls without great quarterbacks. Recently it's 612 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 1: been nothing but great quarterbacks who win super Bowls. Mahomes, 613 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:24,160 Speaker 1: Brady Russell, Wilson, Peyton. While his arm wasn't great at 614 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: the end of that his mind was the best maybe ever. 615 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: I mean you go back for the last decade, it's 616 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: pretty much great quarterbacks and yeah, you can make it there. 617 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: Like a Jared Goff, who I think is a good quarterback, 618 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: not a great quarterback, and I do like him a lot, 619 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: but I don't think he's on that level where he 620 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: elevates everybody around him. Yeah, they had a nice run 621 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: to get there, but he needs If you're not a 622 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 1: truly great quarterback, you need either a tremendous scheme or 623 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: a great supporting cast. Once you get paid, even though 624 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: you're only pretty good, it's harder to get you that 625 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: supporting cast, and it becomes you get in this catch 626 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,920 Speaker 1: twenty two of if all this money's invested here, we 627 00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 1: can't spend it there. But we're still not good enough. 628 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: And so you either want to be I think history 629 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: you want to be elite at quarterback? Are you'd rather 630 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: be bad and try to get elite at quarterback? I 631 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 1: like it? Indeed? All right, one final thing on a Tuesday, 632 00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: the twelfth of May two thousand and twenty. Hopefully the 633 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: snow is done. I really better. I hope. I don't know. 634 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,400 Speaker 1: I need that to stop. I can well, I can 635 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: work my way through the pandemic. I cannot work through 636 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: snow in May. It's unacceptable. Uh. Former NBA star Kendrick 637 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 1: Perkins with a question that I asked to you from 638 00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 1: the Twitter world. He asks, this was Sunday night during 639 00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: the last dance. What if Lebron would have retired for 640 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:49,959 Speaker 1: two years and went and played wide receiver for the 641 00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:53,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Can we put the mid to bed that 642 00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:56,479 Speaker 1: this experiment might not have gone the way that everyone 643 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: would have thought? Or is that mean live on gripple? 644 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with you. I mean, at first off, 645 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: I'd want him at tight end, not wide receiver. He'd 646 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,320 Speaker 1: have to drop some some pounds to to get to 647 00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver. Secondly, I mean that might have been that 648 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,560 Speaker 1: could have been lose lose for everyone, and I would 649 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:17,000 Speaker 1: be worried. I mean, the Calves lose their best player, 650 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:20,920 Speaker 1: I mean Lebron. That would have been fun for the 651 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 1: for the Browns. I just mean, when is that putting 652 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 1: you over the top? I mean, do you need to 653 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 1: sell tickets? I mean that would be the only upside, 654 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: and I don't. I'm not doubting Lebron's prowess. I think 655 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,040 Speaker 1: he was a great high school football player, but uh, 656 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: one non quarterback does not make you a championship level team. 657 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,240 Speaker 1: But taking a Lebron away from the Cavaliers would make 658 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: them not a championship team. So I'm down on this experiment. 659 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: I think you'd have been a pro bowler, I really do. 660 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: I mean I watched I watched us take Tarrell Prior, 661 00:31:52,600 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 1: who couldn't even get off the line of scrimmage in 662 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: Buffalo and training camp in a year later. It was 663 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: a thousand yard receiver in the NFL. And he's a 664 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: tremendous athlete in his own right. But Lebron's a better athlete. 665 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,479 Speaker 1: Lebron is one of the greatest athletes ever at tight end, 666 00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: he would be a mismatch. I mean, people, is he 667 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: almost too tall? He's like, what six he's six eight 668 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 1: or six nine. He I just think he'd be I'm 669 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: still way the way that he can move, he's a quarterback, 670 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 1: the way that he can move, his agility, his body control. 671 00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: I mean, you think about how good Antonio Gates was. 672 00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: Antonio Gates was a basketball player and wasn't a tenth 673 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: of the athlete of Lebron James. I get it. I'm 674 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: just saying as a Clevelander, I don't know if that's 675 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: a win win for everyone. Like one he's gonna go 676 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: to Miami, might as well have n't go to the Browns. Yeah, yeah, 677 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: then I would have been fine with that. He stays 678 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,160 Speaker 1: in Cleveland to play football, I'm fine with that. But 679 00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: if I'm losing him from the Cabs to play for 680 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: the Browns as a Clevelander. I don't know who's winning there, 681 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 1: all right. So say he's going to Miami and he's like, 682 00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a couple of years before I go 683 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: to Miami and I'm gonna take my talents to the 684 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: NFL and play tight end, and then I want him 685 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: on the Browns. Does he have a successful to not 686 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 1: trow bowler? Yes. Absolutely. I think he's better than Jordan 687 00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: was his baseball. I think that's I think that's as 688 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: far as I can go. Okay, So, like Jordan Cameron 689 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: was kind of a basketball player and then ends up 690 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: being a tight end at a thousand yard season with 691 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 1: the Cleveland Browns. You mean tell Big play Gar. No. 692 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 1: I love Big play Gar. One of my favorite people 693 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: in the world. We're talking about Lebron James. Those guys 694 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 1: were successful at a high level in the National Football League. 695 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: You mean tell me Lebron James isn't gonna go out 696 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 1: there and do that. I just worry and I wonder 697 00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: about the whole transition, the physicality of the game, all that. 698 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: I just it's a different thing. You know, there's there's 699 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,200 Speaker 1: hand checking rules in the NBA. Hand there's hands fighting 700 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Okay, okay, Lebron used to get beaten 701 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: up all the time, all the time, and we're talking 702 00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: about he would have to do this. You'd have to 703 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 1: be young. I mean, we're not talking about Lebron today. 704 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 1: We're talking about Lebron and his what what you know, 705 00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: seven years in the league? Eight years in the league. 706 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 1: The guy would be he would be dominant. Russ would 707 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,360 Speaker 1: be Don Russell Westbrook. Russell Westbrook would be maybe one 708 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,720 Speaker 1: of the best receivers in the history of the world 709 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:23,480 Speaker 1: if he played. Think about how big he has been. 710 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: A lot of great athletes that have stunk at wide receiver, 711 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:29,680 Speaker 1: not Russ. That guy is crazy. He's physical and he 712 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: would run past everybody and he jump all he would get. 713 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,439 Speaker 1: He's like, what how bigs rus like six three six 714 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,280 Speaker 1: for yeah, I mean that's what Randy Mosson is supposed 715 00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:38,320 Speaker 1: to be a giant. But you think because he's on 716 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,839 Speaker 1: bas in basketball, Russ isn't a big guy. Russell would, 717 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,320 Speaker 1: you would be unbelievable and he would be a tenacious 718 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,960 Speaker 1: run block. I'm just saying I've seen a lot of 719 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: these guys in bronze training camp. That don't make the 720 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:51,879 Speaker 1: team to look great like great athletes that we're talking 721 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: about different level. We're talking about Russell Westbrook and and 722 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: Lebron James. I'm not saying Joe schmohawk off the Dean 723 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 1: Wade is gonna come been here and dominate. Okay, I'm 724 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 1: going elite elite athletes. I'm just saying that a Pro Bowl, 725 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,879 Speaker 1: elite tight end. What's the what's the war on that? 726 00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:15,040 Speaker 1: Like a one point five more wins? I mean, Rob 727 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,920 Speaker 1: Gronkowsi is probably pretty high. He's worth a winner too. 728 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: I just want to I would say, so, okay, so 729 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,640 Speaker 1: that's that's that's fine, But NBA, it's not a quarterback. 730 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 1: It's not the same. It's not as I'm just saying 731 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,360 Speaker 1: they would be successful at what they were trying to accomplish. 732 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: Nothing about their team them as individuals. I'm just saying 733 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: a calves to Brown's trade. I mean the calves. The 734 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: calves are going from sixty wins to twenty wins in 735 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: a hurry. The decimation on the calves is not equal 736 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 1: in any way, shape or form to the bump of 737 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:46,760 Speaker 1: the Browns. Right, none the NBA would award us, award 738 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: us the number one pick after a season like that, 739 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: leaving to go to the Browns man. All right, some 740 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 1: funny little things. That's what we talked about in May. 741 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 1: I'm the best podcast available. That's right, gentlemen, thank you 742 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 1: for your time on this day. Frander Gribble for Nathan's 743 00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: a Girl. I'm Jason Gibbs. Thanks to Jeff McDaniel for 744 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,920 Speaker 1: all of his hard work and efforts. Make sure to 745 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: log on Cleveland Browns dot com or wherever you get 746 00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: your podcasts, like and subscribe today to the best podcast available. 747 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,560 Speaker 1: Make sure you also check out our YouTube page. Cleveland 748 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: Browns dot com are YouTube dot com slash Cleveland Browns. 749 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: That's what happens when you get a little worthy. It's 750 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: just YouTube dot com slash Browns. But that's okay. Yeah whatever, 751 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: YouTube dot com slash Browns. Just get right, honor, that's 752 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 1: all right. I called Baco Anthony last week. Wait, no, 753 00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,799 Speaker 1: I called him Andrew. I called him Andrew. I was 754 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,399 Speaker 1: waiting for the all kinds of fun today. Yeah, that's 755 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: what I'm talking about. I called James Games last week. 756 00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: I've been called a lot worse in my life, well 757 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: even at that, Andre Grimble for Nathan's Girl, and Jason Gibbs, 758 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: thanks for watching and thanks for listening for the best 759 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: podcast available