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Speaker 2: start off with the first memory that was the craziest
Speaker 2: moment for me in twenty twenty three, I am actually
Speaker 2: dating somebody African now, and there was an episode called
Speaker 2: anal from an African And the irony of me doing
Speaker 2: this episode after it happening is a little bit crazy,
Speaker 2: but it was featuring the just Us podcast with Jacob
Speaker 2: Willis and Amber Please listen to this crazy ass clip
Speaker 2: as a gay man who is like, no, I like
Speaker 2: older men, but you don't really have a reason.
Speaker 1: You're just think.
Speaker 3: When I'm talking to them and I'm looking in their
Speaker 3: arm having a conversation, I can tell them they just
Speaker 3: want love, they need love, and I want to give
Speaker 3: it to them.
Speaker 1: You said you like them.
Speaker 4: Look, I love a good nursing home, honey for a
Speaker 4: role play.
Speaker 1: Oh road play, hold on, give me the details on
Speaker 1: what a nursing home role play.
Speaker 3: Is like laying in his bed with a little gown on.
Speaker 3: He's sleeping and then I'm just literally in between his legs.
Speaker 3: I looked up that gown, get those two big juicy balls,
Speaker 3: start to shuck them, go to the tip of the dick,
Speaker 3: and yes, I love it.
Speaker 1: He wake up.
Speaker 5: Like that.
Speaker 1: You ain't like you about to get called by a nurse.
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh no, go back to sleep, take medicine
Speaker 3: and pro That is my type for role Plus, this
Speaker 3: is sick.
Speaker 1: Keep going.
Speaker 3: That's that's what I like. One of the things I like. Yes,
Speaker 3: and I love my nipples, lips. I don't even need
Speaker 3: to masturbate. I don't need you to fuck me. If
Speaker 3: you lick my nipples the right way, I'll just come.
Speaker 1: Literally, yeah, we didn't even ask.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I started thinking about it.
Speaker 1: I started thinking about Like I said, I like, oh,
Speaker 1: and you know what nipple on this podcast that she's
Speaker 1: And what's crazy is there is so many straight men
Speaker 1: that I realize are into hardwired, are not really like
Speaker 1: they won't ask for it. But I've noticed much like
Speaker 1: my head begetting pushed towards the nipple now, bitch, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'll lick you nipple. But like, straight
Speaker 1: men don't admit to the fact that they really like
Speaker 1: their nipples being played with, whether you lick it and
Speaker 1: rub it or like you literally just suck on their nipples.
Speaker 1: They have a problem with saying that that's what they're into,
Speaker 1: and amber you in these faces, No, not sucking nipples, No,
Speaker 1: that's out. That's crazy. You'll suck feet, but not nipples, right,
Speaker 1: Why that's what's wrong with sucking Amanda? When you're like,
Speaker 1: if gayy you nipple? Why titties? I don't know, it's
Speaker 1: just weird what you buy. So you sucking titties anyway?
Speaker 1: Why make it baked?
Speaker 2: I just don't like that now, and we want to
Speaker 2: do our sex tip segment. Gotta start with you. It gotdrm,
Speaker 2: it got to give us. She been over there just like,
Speaker 2: actually know what a good dick sucking tip or even
Speaker 2: like sex tip with your nails. A lot of girls
Speaker 2: get long nails. Now tell me something you might do
Speaker 2: sexually with your nails.
Speaker 1: But you ain't listening to her. She said, there was blood. Okay,
Speaker 1: you think it's kind of crazy because I don't want
Speaker 1: to suck down nipples. But what I do with my nails,
Speaker 1: I like to put my nails in a nigga mouth.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like a dick. And that's not getting you,
Speaker 2: that's not that's right there. That's what I said.
Speaker 1: I knew it. I knew it, but I like that.
Speaker 1: You can you show Wait a second, so you're getting
Speaker 1: while they're fucking you, you like to put my nails
Speaker 1: in his mouth? How many nails too? And you just
Speaker 1: go like this and you make him suck it and
Speaker 1: that's wow.
Speaker 4: You does he go down to the tip of the
Speaker 4: nail or does he just I mean the brand?
Speaker 1: Okay, wait right down there? Second head never had rhyan
Speaker 1: stones or jewels on your No, that's that's best kids.
Speaker 1: So rhy stones and jail and gems is where you
Speaker 1: crossed the Yeah, that's crazy at this age. Oh I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. I stopped doing it because okay, well
Speaker 1: no I lost, I lost gems. I'm in the boodlehole.
Speaker 1: I'm like where it went. Hopefully it's on the bed
Speaker 1: and not in the bootlehole, because I do not want
Speaker 1: them to shoot out. Imagine you take out his You're like,
Speaker 1: why does it look? That's nuts? While so so do
Speaker 1: you just do it without asking? Or are the men
Speaker 1: wanting to suck your acrylic nails? I try to do
Speaker 1: it without asking. Oh so no consent? Wow? Yeah wow
Speaker 1: like that? But what they do it? Yes? What's gonna say?
Speaker 1: Get up? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you're about to do with a nipple.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe you don't want Are you a dominant person? Yes?
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why she's paying.
Speaker 2: Maybe okay, Well then well then as someone that wants.
Speaker 1: To trick sometimes I kind of get it though. Well
Speaker 1: then let me ask you. You you knowing that you
Speaker 1: like that power, you like that control, you're independent even financially,
Speaker 1: do you have to desire at all then to be maybe? Okay, so,
Speaker 1: but you miss them up to like, well, I guess
Speaker 1: like I don't know how to honestly maybe even like
Speaker 1: it comes to like sex sometimes I can, you know,
Speaker 1: bow down. But besides that, like no, wow, Yeah, Like
Speaker 1: when I go out, like I like to get my dude,
Speaker 1: I'll like, Hey, you gonna I'm hosting tonight. You're gonna
Speaker 1: put this on, put that on. I don't care if
Speaker 1: you don't.
Speaker 4: Like to dress them what I'm fresh kicks and damn
Speaker 4: this a nice.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get your hair done. You're gonna do this
Speaker 1: and the hair too. Let's not do all that right now.
Speaker 1: But you know I'm gonna tell them how to dress.
Speaker 1: And yeah, do you have kids? I don't want kids?
Speaker 1: These niggas? Is your we?
Speaker 6: Then?
Speaker 1: I mean I take I mean, I still would love
Speaker 1: for you to experience a man take you on a date,
Speaker 1: but it could really just be like you are getting
Speaker 1: what you want, Like you have this love and desire
Speaker 1: for power and control and it's your comfort place and you.
Speaker 2: Don't Jacob my give us a little insfoment a horrible
Speaker 2: decision with the sugaring zips, because who knows if you
Speaker 2: even really shared it to this degree on just us
Speaker 2: because I feel like hearing someone tell us how they've
Speaker 2: kind of almost like to enagled someone and been able
Speaker 2: to get them to do things for them, which is
Speaker 2: really sugaring, like more than it is any other kind
Speaker 2: of dating. Sugaring is like I'm here, I'm the prize.
Speaker 2: Like you need to pay, you need to spend, you
Speaker 2: need to treat. So tell us how maybe even if
Speaker 2: you had a first experience, like did you know you
Speaker 2: were about to be a sugar baby?
Speaker 3: Like, tell us that how it started? Yeah, well it
Speaker 3: started when I lived in Sacramento. You know, I'm from Sacramento.
Speaker 3: I would go to San Francisco. I used to do
Speaker 3: a lot of acting work there, commercial work in San Francisco.
Speaker 3: And there was an older man there and at the
Speaker 3: time there was like a subway and I was in
Speaker 3: between breaks from filming and I didn't want another food
Speaker 3: from the set, so I go to subway and get
Speaker 3: a sandwich. There's an older man and he was like, oh,
Speaker 3: you're very handsome. I said, oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 3: You know, I didn't even think about money or anything
Speaker 3: like that. And he was like, when you're done, do
Speaker 3: you want to come my lip over here? I'm like, now,
Speaker 3: you know when you were young at the time. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was young, Erry huh oh never mind.
Speaker 4: He was really this one.
Speaker 3: He was really, really really old okay okay, yeah, and
Speaker 3: he was like, you know, do you want to make
Speaker 3: some money? And bitch, I had like twenty five dollars
Speaker 3: left that was enough to give me back on the
Speaker 3: bus back to Sacramento after my shoes, and you know
Speaker 3: how it is, do you want some money?
Speaker 1: I would have thought it was a model. What was
Speaker 1: what was the money that was offered?
Speaker 4: Five hundred dollars for what? He wanted me to go
Speaker 4: up to his apartment.
Speaker 3: He laid on his back and he wanted me to
Speaker 3: like punch him in his back and call him like
Speaker 3: a faggot.
Speaker 7: In all these different words.
Speaker 3: What brain him as a man? It was humiliation. Humiliation.
Speaker 3: He loved it, and he was so old. I felt
Speaker 3: so bad. I'm like, I'm gonna hurt you. He's like
Speaker 3: I said, okay, boom boom boom, and I just started
Speaker 3: calling him everything you ain't.
Speaker 1: Shit, that ain't shit.
Speaker 3: Be my slave now, like I start going, I start
Speaker 3: going in and he took me to the ATM after
Speaker 3: he gave I was so I was like, oh my god,
Speaker 3: I can get used to this for real. So he
Speaker 3: became my regular in San Francisco. But every time I
Speaker 3: would go out there, I wouldn't do that all the time.
Speaker 3: There would be like different things he wanted me to do,
Speaker 3: maybe like go find him somebody else to do it,
Speaker 3: Like he loved the idea of bringing a whole bunch
Speaker 3: of black men back to his apartment and like humiliating him,
Speaker 3: so get a cut.
Speaker 1: But you were okay, I would get a cut.
Speaker 4: Well, oh yeah, I'm all about a cut.
Speaker 1: Even you saying that we thought we we we love
Speaker 1: to have this kind of conversation. So in terms of
Speaker 1: race play, you said he would love for a lot
Speaker 1: of black men to do that. So you're okay with
Speaker 1: race play and being fetishized because of the color of
Speaker 1: your skin with these white.
Speaker 7: Men, I think, damn check out.
Speaker 1: I gon'na be honest with you when I think it's
Speaker 1: a little bit different.
Speaker 4: I didn't even think about it that way though.
Speaker 2: Black men like I know, but race play is different
Speaker 2: when you're the one who's the aggressor.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he wouldn't. He wouldn't talk to us crazy one
Speaker 4: of us, like like we.
Speaker 1: Were generally thinking about race reverse reverse, same thing. It's okay,
Speaker 1: the way that he said you my slave, Now there
Speaker 1: was wait there, I just said that.
Speaker 3: He didn't to say, but you said it anyway I did.
Speaker 1: I mean even even I mean, we've talked about other
Speaker 1: women too that believe in dealing with white men they're
Speaker 1: getting their reparations. So to me that there still is
Speaker 1: an element of race play in that, Like we talked
Speaker 1: to Marnie about that.
Speaker 2: We talked to uh uh, Marnie. Yeah, the girl who
Speaker 2: does that? Is her name my Marty nigga. Who you're
Speaker 2: talking about?
Speaker 1: The pendom I don't know nobody's name right now, Barnie.
Speaker 1: And what about the lista splicit she did the same thing,
Speaker 1: is Marnie Marley? Mister Hale, I messed up a letter, Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I was talking about that I really
Speaker 1: did it. But at least splicing. Both of them dealt
Speaker 1: with white men and felt like it was a form
Speaker 1: of reparation.
Speaker 2: Right, But they were always jomming them, right, And so
Speaker 2: I feel like race play is a very specific thing
Speaker 2: when you're bringing up someone's colors, someone typical stereotypes, even
Speaker 2: like derogatory language that's more a race play.
Speaker 1: But he said he would go get a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of black boy I understand, being one. We got to
Speaker 1: be clear. A race play is a very specific exactly
Speaker 1: what you just said. Though he wanted black boys, I
Speaker 1: don't even wanting to suck black people. Is race playing?
Speaker 1: You got me fucked up? All he said, you're wanting
Speaker 1: to be done by black people, and he's like, you
Speaker 1: my slave, I'm your best.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think this would be good like commentary,
Speaker 2: like for people watching on YouTube or even in the comments,
Speaker 2: like race play to me is not you wanting to
Speaker 2: fuck someone black, you wanted to be donned by someone black.
Speaker 1: It's not race But to me, the knowing that you
Speaker 1: come from your ancestry of white supremacy, whether you were
Speaker 1: a slave owner or not. You said he was old,
Speaker 1: he could have had a plantation. I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't know how old he like. Being submissive to someone
Speaker 1: black is not race play. But what I'm saying is
Speaker 1: if there's a layer of I'm turned on by the
Speaker 1: role playing of you now being in a power position
Speaker 1: because of your race, knowing that I'm a white man
Speaker 1: in so I know, I hear what you're saying, I
Speaker 1: just think it's unfair.
Speaker 2: To all black doms that have white clients to say
Speaker 2: they're engaging in race.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, and back to even the
Speaker 1: past guests that we have had, they have literally called
Speaker 1: it a form of preparations for themselves. Yeah, as a joke,
Speaker 1: but raplay is something as a joke. Okay, she has
Speaker 1: a shirt that says reparations with a white hand and money. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like to me, that's something like like worship getting deep.
Speaker 1: The question was.
Speaker 2: You is getting deeper for me because in some of
Speaker 2: the recent interviews I've done, like I was telling Mandy,
Speaker 2: I might have said on another episode, I went to
Speaker 2: a brothel and I'll give you all the t I this.
Speaker 2: I went, y'all know I do sex cells, which is
Speaker 2: exploring sex businesses, and part of that business in the
Speaker 2: brothel to me is it's almost like your blackness is
Speaker 2: a business at that point. So I asked the brothel,
Speaker 2: can I talk to these black women separate, because to me,
Speaker 2: their story would be different from everyone else's there because
Speaker 2: people are coming in to fuck your skin color.
Speaker 1: That's just the truth. Right. Oh my god, you're my
Speaker 1: first black girl. Blah, blah blah blah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: And one of the things I said to all of them,
Speaker 2: I think it was four or five black girls I
Speaker 2: sat down with, I said, do y'all engage in race play?
Speaker 2: And they all said absolutely no. However, they embraced the
Speaker 2: fact that they know they may be a fetish for
Speaker 2: some and talked a lot about the differences with race
Speaker 2: play and basically saying like the submission to a white
Speaker 2: guy would then be race play for them, the words
Speaker 2: being used, even the role playing itself. So that's probably
Speaker 2: why I was like, I think that's why when he
Speaker 2: brought up those words, because I'll be honest, like even
Speaker 2: when and and I talked about it, like, to me,
Speaker 2: race plays the same, Like just to say something is
Speaker 2: a fetish like I ain't like like when I don't
Speaker 2: think it's fair to say I want.
Speaker 1: To fuck you before you lose weight, Like people used
Speaker 1: to talk about wanting to fuck me at a certain size,
Speaker 1: and they didn't want to fuck me if I had
Speaker 1: lost a certain amount of weight. And so to me,
Speaker 1: even though that's a fetish, that to me is still
Speaker 1: on some fucked up shit. I was never fucking nobody
Speaker 1: who said they wanted to fuck me because they never
Speaker 1: fucked a big girl and they wanted to fuck me
Speaker 1: as a big girl. And so the fact that this
Speaker 1: man also had you recruit other black boys, and this
Speaker 1: was the conversation. That's where it's like, it's not it
Speaker 1: goes beyond the fact that you're just a black man
Speaker 1: and I want you to do this domination. To me,
Speaker 1: you're seeking out other specifically black men to humiliate you.
Speaker 1: And so to me, I think that back to psychological
Speaker 1: there's a psychological element to race play.
Speaker 2: Maybe he used to be a company, feels bad, Maybe
Speaker 2: he needs to go to therapy now cast and call
Speaker 2: for black men at one Caucasian man you pay good.
Speaker 4: So that's what was in my mind at the time.
Speaker 4: I was at I don't have to do that.
Speaker 1: In a month, right, Okay?
Speaker 4: Now, I love I want to do that anymore.
Speaker 2: A lot is about like how do I get a
Speaker 2: sugar daddy? So that's really where we were dig into you.
Speaker 2: So you started like that, and then tell us more
Speaker 2: about how it became sugaring and how you knew you
Speaker 2: wanted to do that.
Speaker 4: Well, I didn't start sugar until I moved to La Really.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean I had like, yeah, that guy
Speaker 3: wasn't consider consider him a sugardaddy because I had to
Speaker 3: work right. But that's that's where even though some people
Speaker 3: that have sugar daddy's they have to sleep with their
Speaker 3: sugar daddy, you know what I mean, I don't do
Speaker 3: that really, my sugar daddy he can't. He can't get
Speaker 3: He can, but he can't come. Why there's science something
Speaker 3: he can't do that science, So there's nothing. My sugard
Speaker 3: doesn't look for sex with me. He has a partner.
Speaker 3: All he wants to do is go to dinner. Literally shit,
Speaker 3: but we haven't. I haven't seen him in person in
Speaker 3: two years. He still pays you, of course.
Speaker 4: Of course, but what does he pay you for?
Speaker 3: Just to pay me? Like he just if I ask
Speaker 3: him whatever I want, I get. That's just how it
Speaker 3: works with him. We build a friendship. So when you
Speaker 3: have a sugar daddy and you want to secure the
Speaker 3: sugar daddy and sec secure the bag, it has to
Speaker 3: be a genuine friendship as well. Yes you can, you
Speaker 3: can finesse only for so long, but if you actually
Speaker 3: really get in there, when he starts to trust you
Speaker 3: and he's like you know what, you're like, my friend.
Speaker 4: Me and my sugar they have like a friendship. I
Speaker 4: actually really like, I think you.
Speaker 2: Are preaching so hard right now, mainly because sugar babies
Speaker 2: assume it's all about their looks. Sugar babies assume it's oh,
Speaker 2: like you know, I'm hot. He wants to make me
Speaker 2: this thing like there will always be another you. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, There's always gonna be another cute beach,
Speaker 2: a cute nigga, whatever, but one ding, I know that
Speaker 2: you're saying that. I've never really thought of my sugar.
Speaker 2: Daddy and I started out in the beginning just going
Speaker 2: out to bars and stuff. He thought I was fun
Speaker 2: to have around, like, oh, she brings a girls around.
Speaker 2: He would take me on vacation and shit like that,
Speaker 2: and then he was almost invested in my life story
Speaker 2: and always felt like, especially with friendship, he needed to
Speaker 2: take care of me.
Speaker 1: What would we do if.
Speaker 2: Anybody got hurt in this roomright now? Like we're you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, there's a friendship. I'm gonna take
Speaker 2: care of you. That's a really good point because if
Speaker 2: you don't establish that friendship, what the.
Speaker 1: Fuck does he need to stick around for? Which is
Speaker 1: why I also agree with you. Me and my friends
Speaker 1: debate this all the time because they're quote unquote sugar daddies.
Speaker 1: It was transactional. They didn't get money unless they saw
Speaker 1: them in person and had sex. And I've been in
Speaker 1: a whole nother country with another nigga and had to
Speaker 1: call one of my niggas like his team ain't pay him,
Speaker 1: can you send me a thousand dollars? And this is
Speaker 1: Western Union Day, Like I had to have my roommate
Speaker 1: go to Western Union. I said, bitch, I'll pay you
Speaker 1: one hundred dollars out of this. Put it in my account.
Speaker 1: I could have money while I'm out in this other
Speaker 1: country with a nigga whose team's not for him. And
Speaker 1: my friends could never understand how I could get certain
Speaker 1: things from people without having sex. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: if this is a sugar daddy that really fucks with
Speaker 1: you, you shouldn't have to have sex with him for him
Speaker 1: to show up for you. And that's the only way
Speaker 1: they show up for you, Like you should be able
Speaker 1: to ask at the drop of the dime, whether he
Speaker 1: sees you or not, whether you're giving him a good
Speaker 1: time or not, whether you sucking his dick or not.
Speaker 1: You should be able to depend on this person on
Speaker 1: this all right, y'all? So it is our favorite moments
Speaker 1: of twenty twenty three, and it only makes sense to
Speaker 1: start off with the woman, the myth, the legend, Yes,
Speaker 1: the girl we came out to all toured two and
Speaker 1: the one who got the Rolling Stone Best Rap Song
Speaker 1: of the Year Skigee. We got to interview Sexy Red
Speaker 1: and she, with all of her mentions of a Buddha hole,
Speaker 1: made my favorite moment of twenty twenty three. Check it
Speaker 1: out here. Are you a dirty talker? I cool? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you want to go to because I do. I'll be
Speaker 1: saying I say what's real? Wait, you say what's real?
Speaker 1: Don't say what's real? I'll say I. I say what's
Speaker 1: like whatever going on in that moment. I'm gonna say
Speaker 1: like like you know, like, oh this is so far,
Speaker 1: Like you know it's so what? Oh you know what
Speaker 1: I want to say? It means fire, let's I want.
Speaker 2: I want to see you do like a glossary of words,
Speaker 2: it's real. Saint Louis ship and you got a pair
Speaker 2: next to the like her far what you said, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of herd on her?
Speaker 1: Yeah, earn like you earned some clothes in the name,
Speaker 1: not in the name earned that nobody.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Oh and like reading to earn?
Speaker 1: Are you running to earth? You're running? H yeah? And
Speaker 1: then your name also, oh god, oh was there another one?
Speaker 1: Like just like how I was saying fur, Like, how
Speaker 1: would y'all say, fir life ain't fair? No, no, but
Speaker 1: we said it to like for that ain't fir well?
Speaker 1: Like for you, how y'all say, like how it's outside
Speaker 1: it's the fur going on? Oh, I don't know what
Speaker 1: the fire that is, a bitch. This is way better
Speaker 1: than motherfucker Baltimore. I'm sorry. Oh wait, it's word.
Speaker 5: Better.
Speaker 1: Baltimore is the worst acting in America to me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's funny though, Like how they say, okay, yeah, that
Speaker 1: ship crazy, that's ship crazy to get it to our
Speaker 1: vanilla ship, our vanilla shit is sex in the news
Speaker 1: vanilla and there is this is kind of vanilla. You
Speaker 1: said vanilla vanilla, like, but ship, we've been talking about
Speaker 1: this vanilla. This is real vanilla. So, a California high
Speaker 1: school teacher has been placed on leave after instructing students
Speaker 1: on how to get pleasure from anal sex. And we'll
Speaker 1: talk about it because you you are a mother, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: so we'll talk about it. The educator at El Dorado
Speaker 1: High and Placentia Placenta bitches almost all California was called
Speaker 1: on video listen not you heard that. You heard that
Speaker 1: all you called it? You caught it. So she was
Speaker 1: placed on leave after a video was shown of her
Speaker 1: giving explicit instruction to a class of teenagers on how
Speaker 1: to get pleasure during antal sex and where they can
Speaker 1: find sex toys that can stimulate the prostate. She went
Speaker 1: as far and can be heard saying, you don't have
Speaker 1: to go inside the boodhole. You can actually just push
Speaker 1: on the seam and that stimulates the prostate. Glenn. They
Speaker 1: apparently really like that. So that's why for mail on
Speaker 1: male antal sex is very pleasurable because of the fact
Speaker 1: that it hits the prostate, and that's where a lot
Speaker 1: of nerve endings in the boodh hole is as well.
Speaker 1: It's like the girls g spot the prostate their equivalent
Speaker 1: to each other. Now we talk about the lack of
Speaker 1: sex education a lot. Would you feel away to know
Speaker 1: that your child was in school and this is how
Speaker 1: their teacher was teaching it. Do you all teenagers high school.
Speaker 1: This is the high schoo Okay, we let's start with
Speaker 1: that question. High school first. I'm gonna start her. They Caucasian,
Speaker 1: uh uh yeah on her, they tied on her. It's
Speaker 1: say you said the kids told they snitch. That's way.
Speaker 1: When we was in high school, man, our teachers used
Speaker 1: to tell us all kind relationship our teachers are. And
Speaker 1: my teacher told us she's seen the man dingling so
Speaker 1: long he could wrap it behind his bag. But you
Speaker 1: learned that, you did not hear that teacher? We had
Speaker 1: sex education, but no, this is normal, like the teachers
Speaker 1: curse that you like the students that nothing like. That's like,
Speaker 1: but yeah, we had sex education. She used to tell
Speaker 1: us about all that she's tell us about STDs. She
Speaker 1: is probably tell us about that, and we wouldn't tell
Speaker 1: on her. Like we in class asking questions, we be like.
Speaker 1: She used to tell us we can ask whatever we
Speaker 1: needed to ask because we want, which I think is good.
Speaker 1: That's what should be available. We used to ask all
Speaker 1: kinds of questions.
Speaker 2: But sext question, this one is specific, I think because
Speaker 2: because it's something about no.
Speaker 1: I think it's because she's teaching somebody how to be pleasured.
Speaker 1: No but that's what I'm saying. If you got a question,
Speaker 1: she should be that's your sex. Not only that, though,
Speaker 1: I think that that is the problem. Like when you're young,
Speaker 1: you're just told to say the funk away from sex,
Speaker 1: and sex is pleasurable. It's how we pro create. I
Speaker 1: think that you can get at cd UN. That's why
Speaker 1: we had the class, yes, because they need to teach
Speaker 1: kids stuff about that, like y'all, y'all all these kids
Speaker 1: just having six y'all are and that's what I teach
Speaker 1: you to she's the teachers are coming and that's the
Speaker 1: thing I think that they're actually should. I know we
Speaker 1: talk about sex education from a scientific point, but I
Speaker 1: actually do think that teaching people how to be pleasured
Speaker 1: during sex should be a part of that education because
Speaker 1: there's so many women that have sex for years and
Speaker 1: they're not please. I mean, you know that's that. I
Speaker 1: don't know that might be kind of taking it for
Speaker 1: but if that's yeah, I don't hearing about no asked
Speaker 1: she and then he'd be getting ideas or nothing like that,
Speaker 1: or like you convincing kids to but if we all
Speaker 1: in But it was all girls in our class, so
Speaker 1: girls school, no education yeah, So if we had questions,
Speaker 1: our teach was like, you can ask whatever you need
Speaker 1: to ask, like we it ain't nothing to hide in here.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think that's we could if we was
Speaker 1: even if we weren't in the class and we needed
Speaker 1: to come talk her. And we can't talk to our
Speaker 1: moms about us fucking and going on with us, we
Speaker 1: can come talk.
Speaker 2: To like I should be able to ask a teacher
Speaker 2: if I'm a teenage at fifteen, oh, what's this discharge?
Speaker 5: Like?
Speaker 1: What is this? What's this spell? That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You should not be teaching me. What's gonna feel good?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: I No, But I'm saying if the student, I'm honest
Speaker 1: only in the fact that so you basically want her
Speaker 1: to be like, yeah, you should write a dick like this.
Speaker 1: It's it's not a dick like this. But to me,
Speaker 1: there's people that are like, especially teenagers, they're learning from
Speaker 1: porn a lot of the aggression and things that children
Speaker 1: are learning or the metal pleasure. Well one moment, but
Speaker 1: know that men are learning at a quick age, even
Speaker 1: know they're pounding women that is not a lot of women.
Speaker 1: You have to wait till it's till it's warmed up
Speaker 1: or like fore plate is something that should be taught
Speaker 1: that has to do with pleasure. I mean we always
Speaker 1: you could convince it's not convincing the kids. But to me,
Speaker 1: to teach a child that before penetration you should be
Speaker 1: like aroused, otherwise it could be painful, otherwise it could
Speaker 1: cause shaping, otherwise it could do this. So for play,
Speaker 1: that is a part of pleasure. It's teaching kids around. Yeah,
Speaker 1: teaching kids about for play before going to poundtown I
Speaker 1: think should be something that has talked about. I mean
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I mean telling a kid what for play is is
Speaker 2: different than teaching them how to be pleasured during four play.
Speaker 1: You're talking about like saying, now you gotta suck like this.
Speaker 1: I don't know about that, but everybody like they dick
Speaker 1: suck differently. She's just saying that this, like the prostate
Speaker 1: glen is in there. This is why you will receive
Speaker 1: pleasure from this act. Like to me, and to be fair,
Speaker 1: antal sex was not at all a conversation I was
Speaker 1: in school. So I mean, I'm gonna ask you, did
Speaker 1: y'all have talked about anal sex? Yeah? Everything? What question
Speaker 1: we needed to know, do you like a sex? No,
Speaker 1: it hurts education. We need the way already. It's brown. No,
Speaker 1: it was gonna stay brown because I ain't putting because
Speaker 1: like maybe it's like the dick is too big. Maybe
Speaker 1: you're not like yes, and I'm not used to that
Speaker 1: whole Like I'm it's like I'm a virgin in the host.
Speaker 1: So like whenever I even attempt to, it's like, but
Speaker 1: you're not, so you like a virgin, but you're not now,
Speaker 1: I'm not like it is something didn't got in there before.
Speaker 1: But it hurt like you ever had an accident fucking ass?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 1: I did when I was younger. Oh, and it scarred
Speaker 1: me for a while. What you love it? The dick
Speaker 1: came out and went into the wrong hold on accident.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I jumped up so god damn quick
Speaker 1: when I said, I was finna crowd when it happens
Speaker 1: to me. But I'm not gonna like brave. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's straight, went all the way in. It's like I
Speaker 1: got raped. I was like, because you know how y'all coach,
Speaker 1: you be wet, so everything be wet. So yeah, it
Speaker 1: was going hard than he said right now, she said,
Speaker 1: I got shot you got right up. No, I was
Speaker 1: like this, I couldn't even finish. I'm like, I'm in
Speaker 1: paint to tell back like, I was like, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: It's like I had straight just got I was like,
Speaker 1: it's straight, like you said, I was constipated too. After that,
Speaker 1: I couldn't ship. And then when I see for like
Speaker 1: a couple of days, and then when I did finally ship,
Speaker 1: the dude was like hard because I ain't sit for
Speaker 1: a couple of days. It was hard. It wouldn't come out,
Speaker 1: and my booty all was cracking. And I have the
Speaker 1: best lean. I'm like, I'm constipated from that ship man.
Speaker 1: Couldn't even shop. I couldn't even sit on Like when
Speaker 1: I sat on the toilet it hurted. I'm I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: it can't be traumatic when you sit down in your
Speaker 1: ass like it hurts so bad. I couldn't even I
Speaker 1: had to sit on a pillow. What's type, bitch? I
Speaker 1: had an episode with you when I'll sit here like
Speaker 1: this the whole time. Well, what am I do? The
Speaker 1: dick accidentally went to my ass last night walking fighty.
Speaker 1: I just tried to tune it up for the kick
Speaker 1: for the YouTube and YouTube and YouTube and YOUTUBEU.
Speaker 2: My next favorite episode isn't my most crazy favorite episode
Speaker 2: of the year, but something crazy did come after it.
Speaker 2: So if you listen to the episode with Dom Gabriel Uh.
Speaker 2: He was popular for being on a show called The
Speaker 2: Perfect Match on Netflix and mainly we all knew him
Speaker 2: for crying over girls on the show. Right he came on,
Speaker 2: he was an emo nigga. I'm an emo bitch. I
Speaker 2: was feeling the vibe. We were flirting, and we ended
Speaker 2: up going on a date. And if you follow me
Speaker 2: on Instagram, you would know that something crazy happened on
Speaker 2: that date and I never got to tell but I'm
Speaker 2: going to tell you guys now. So Dom and I
Speaker 2: went out to Laural Hart where we had a great time,
Speaker 2: great vibe. We were really enjoying it, and I kind
Speaker 2: of was feeling like throughout the date, I was almost
Speaker 2: manifesting something bad to happen. I wish I said, I'm
Speaker 2: going to be a millionaire, I'm going to be a billionaire,
Speaker 2: I'm going to get married and have kids during this
Speaker 2: date because my energy was just on another field.
Speaker 1: So we own this date or whatever, and we're walking
Speaker 1: to go.
Speaker 2: So I think it was apartment two hundred deer sign
Speaker 2: and I was like, yo, like, we can't walk there,
Speaker 2: We got to like drive there. Like La is crazy
Speaker 2: because we get rob So we're going on about this
Speaker 2: right and throughout the night, I keep talking about what
Speaker 2: a crazy place that LA is. So finally towards the
Speaker 2: end of the night, we're in the car talking for
Speaker 2: like an hour. It's a really cute vibe.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: It's the moment where you're about to share a kiss.
Speaker 2: And he's about to walk me to my door of
Speaker 2: my apartment building, which is a luxury building with a doorman.
Speaker 2: I only say that to let you know you can
Speaker 2: get got anywhere. So I would say the proximity for
Speaker 2: the door car door to my door of the building
Speaker 2: was maybe fifteen feet and uh, He's about to open
Speaker 2: the door, and I said, did you take your keys?
Speaker 1: He's like, yeah, we're about to go for that like
Speaker 1: good night kiss. I think we did. And suddenly, through
Speaker 1: the corner of my eye, as he's tall, as he's
Speaker 1: above me, I'm looking at this dude just.
Speaker 2: Running and I'm like, oh my god, this nigga turns
Speaker 2: around and someone jumps in the fucking front seat of
Speaker 2: his car literally car jacked. Okay, I'm scared. I'm like,
Speaker 2: oh my god, we about to God, what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: I'm running into the motherfucking building. I'm telling the doorman
Speaker 2: to do something. He's like, bitch, I'll do packages. What
Speaker 2: the fuck you want me to do?
Speaker 1: I'm calling nine one one. I'm screaming. I'm like, goetaway down.
Speaker 1: I'm like, God, don't let him hurt you. Let the
Speaker 1: car go. And it was scary as shit.
Speaker 2: It was terrifying, especially after like such an amazing date.
Speaker 2: So mind you, he did have his keys, but I
Speaker 2: think when you got the little remote key, like you
Speaker 2: only gotta be a certain distance. I ain't think, and
Speaker 2: I think he threw his keys so his key would
Speaker 2: be further from the car. Somehow, the nigga takes off
Speaker 2: with the car after like them fighting about it for
Speaker 2: two minutes and me on the phone the police. So
Speaker 2: then me and Tom jump in my fucking car like,
Speaker 2: gta beach, I'm inn tesla.
Speaker 1: We run in Da da da da.
Speaker 2: He's like, oh my god, and is it him for
Speaker 2: a second date? No, anyway, So he's bugging the fuck out.
Speaker 2: I'm bugging the fuck out he's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: my computer's and this so that not his computer, his phone.
Speaker 2: He's freaking out or it's fucking crazy, right, So we're
Speaker 2: on this speed chase and I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, what are we doing this for? What are we
Speaker 1: gonna do once we've kept this, nigga, this is tom.
Speaker 1: I ain't getting out of the car. You're getting out of
Speaker 1: the car now. So we're on the phone with the police.
Speaker 2: But our goal was like to try to find his
Speaker 2: phone or try to track the car so we can
Speaker 2: tell the police. Boom, we get back to my place,
Speaker 2: he's like, oh my god. He's like, I'm visiting from Canada.
Speaker 2: That the fuck am I gonna do? This is insane?
Speaker 2: So police come and apparently a crash was reported, so
Speaker 2: we're like, oh my god, the car is found.
Speaker 1: But really, the dude just fucking threw the phone out
Speaker 1: of the car, so the impact of the street in.
Speaker 2: The car alerted a crash, so he ended up getting
Speaker 2: his phone back. Anyway, I'm telling you, to manifestation was crazy.
Speaker 1: Then I was.
Speaker 2: Just like, damn, he had to do the police report
Speaker 2: and shit, I went to go get Nina. Y'all know,
Speaker 2: that's my daughter. She has four legs. If you're new here,
Speaker 2: she's downstairs, she'd be an emotional support animal. She's like, bitch,
Speaker 2: I don't know what to to. I have my LA
Speaker 2: show the next fucking day. The shit was crazy. Now
Speaker 2: the date went from seven pm to four in the morning.
Speaker 2: Our anxieties up. It was really bad. So long story short.
Speaker 2: They found the car in like a McDonald's parking lot
Speaker 2: or something, and the nigga left his idea in there
Speaker 2: and basically that's how the police know who he is.
Speaker 1: Crazy ass story.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I guess you could hear the flirting and
Speaker 2: how it led up to that in this episode. Next
Speaker 2: ar Vanilla Shit is our sex in the News segment.
Speaker 2: And so for this week, I found something that I
Speaker 2: wanted to debate a little bit because obviously we're pro
Speaker 2: sex work.
Speaker 1: However, you procex work.
Speaker 6: Love it? You ever pay for pussy? I've never paid
Speaker 6: for pussy.
Speaker 1: Look at me.
Speaker 8: Okay, but I'm a full supporter. I got slut tattooed
Speaker 8: on my hip. I'm a full supporter.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, how MasterCard is endangering sex workers? So this
Speaker 2: is from on the ACLU website and in twoenty twenty one,
Speaker 2: MasterCard developed a new policy for adult content websites using
Speaker 2: credit card or payment options. The policy imposed requirements such
Speaker 2: as pre approval of all content before publication, forbidding certain
Speaker 2: search terms, keeping records of age and identity verifications for performers,
Speaker 2: and the restrictions are not only restrict restricting to free speech,
Speaker 2: but they also harm the livelihood of sex workers. So
Speaker 2: sixteen thousand signatures were given on the ACLU website saying
Speaker 2: that MasterCard is harming people that are black, immigrant, and
Speaker 2: transcender sex workers. I can't talk today, but anyway, we've
Speaker 2: known for a long time that it's really difficult to
Speaker 2: accept payment as a sex worker. I remember back in
Speaker 2: the day on Backpage they would say this many roses,
Speaker 2: so you didn't talk about the exchange of money. Mandy
Speaker 2: and I when we were starting our bank account, we
Speaker 2: told them our podcast was about sex. They took like
Speaker 2: he went in the back for a minute to make
Speaker 2: sure that it was even okay to accept payment for that. However,
Speaker 2: I was on the team of thinking that this shit
Speaker 2: was wrong until I read why it's not legal. So
Speaker 2: the simple version is that Visa and MasterCard were frustrated
Speaker 2: with the high rate of chargebacks related to porn sites.
Speaker 2: It could be a scamming thing, but most likely someone's
Speaker 2: wife was like, what the fuck is this and they
Speaker 2: had to call in and say.
Speaker 1: They didn't do it.
Speaker 2: So they made the decision to classify adult sites and
Speaker 2: activity as high risk and require anyone that wants to
Speaker 2: process payment meant to pay an upfront registration, free annual renewals,
Speaker 2: and require more ID verification.
Speaker 1: So they do that for OnlyFans. They do it in
Speaker 1: the state of Illinois. Now, if I'm not mistaken, you
Speaker 1: can't log into a porn site without sending in your ID.
Speaker 1: I don't think it's crazy. I think a it probably
Speaker 1: is for this because you're verifying that this is you
Speaker 1: by submitting your card payment. Like you cannot have an
Speaker 1: OnlyFans page or like subscribe without uploading the front and
Speaker 1: back of your ID. So I did that for OnlyFans.
Speaker 1: I don't see it as a problem either, because I
Speaker 1: think it does also help in terms of i'll say
Speaker 1: serial killers, but also pedophiles like you get to see
Speaker 1: kind of what they're searching, the type of porn they're watching.
Speaker 1: I think a lot of serial killers watch the same
Speaker 1: type of porn it'd be like either children porn, animal
Speaker 1: porn like weird shit. So I disagree in a slight way.
Speaker 2: Performers have to upload their ID fentification, and I understand
Speaker 2: that if you were having to upload, I think is
Speaker 2: super extensive. Serial killers, pedophiles, if you really do all that,
Speaker 2: IP addresses are searchable for a long time, and if
Speaker 2: you really want to kill somebody and you're smart about it,
Speaker 2: I feel like you could use a fake ID somehow,
Speaker 2: like you could figure out a way in. But I
Speaker 2: think that kind of does fuck them up. The only
Speaker 2: thing I would agree with is I understand the chargebackshit now,
Speaker 2: like it makes sense if your highest chargebacks aren't Gucci
Speaker 2: and Louis Bitton and it's pussy sites. Like, okay, we
Speaker 2: see why the shit ain't allowed no more. Because if
Speaker 2: you said, MasterCard, we're actually making money on sex, they
Speaker 2: were probably would keep it legal. They don't give a
Speaker 2: fuck about us. This isn't to help stop child pornography.
Speaker 2: This is literally because they ain't making money.
Speaker 1: Have you ever subscribed to any porn sites or OnlyFans?
Speaker 6: No, I've never never paid for anything sex related.
Speaker 1: What Ever, you've never been to a strip club?
Speaker 6: Now, I'm a first ship club I went to I
Speaker 6: was eighteen. I got kicked out.
Speaker 1: Why'd you get kicked out?
Speaker 8: Because it was I was eighteen in Montreal. In canada's
Speaker 8: legal and we all go there after school, but we
Speaker 8: don't have the strip club after school after graduation. After
Speaker 8: graduating school, we all go to Montreal and we all
Speaker 8: went to Is there a thing.
Speaker 1: About strip clubs in Montreal?
Speaker 6: Yeah? What is it that you can go there when
Speaker 6: you're eighteen? No?
Speaker 1: No, No, there's something else? Is it? Like there's a
Speaker 1: lot of them? Can they touch you? What is it?
Speaker 6: I don't know there is a lot of them.
Speaker 1: Okay, because someone told me they go just for strip club.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but I've only been one time. But the thing
Speaker 8: is is like in Canada, we don't have dollar bills.
Speaker 1: You only went to the strip club once? Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you're thirty.
Speaker 6: Yeah. Wow, it doesn't do anything for me.
Speaker 2: And let me tell you something, by the end of
Speaker 2: this episode, someone's gonna want to finger your asshole and
Speaker 2: take you.
Speaker 1: To the strip club.
Speaker 8: I don't like it. Just it just doesn't do anything
Speaker 8: for me, do you know? Because even I just I
Speaker 8: don't know. There's no appeal there.
Speaker 1: Why'd you get kicked out because we don't.
Speaker 8: Have dollar bills. We have twoies and looney, you have coins.
Speaker 8: And I was eighteen years old.
Speaker 1: Didn't think he was throwing coins at the girls.
Speaker 8: I wasn't throwing them. I was just like tossing them
Speaker 8: on the stage. I was like, Oh, it's money, like.
Speaker 1: Toonies and loonies.
Speaker 6: Yeah, what is that crazy? It's one dollar two dollar coin.
Speaker 1: What's the real name for it?
Speaker 6: Looney tony?
Speaker 1: Are you so that's a slang?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: So wait, what were you supposed to be throwing on stage?
Speaker 6: Or like five dollar bills? We have five dollar bills? Yeah,
Speaker 6: we have five.
Speaker 8: Ah, that's high as fun, That's what I'm saying. So
Speaker 8: I'm throwing louis And then the screen guard picked my
Speaker 8: ass up and truck me out the club.
Speaker 1: And I was like, all right, but that's crazy. You
Speaker 1: could get the girl final No it ain't.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I was like, I had twenty dollars for the night,
Speaker 8: so that means.
Speaker 1: You had about four. Good man, it be terrible to
Speaker 1: just throw one. That sounds crazy.
Speaker 2: I realized recently when I was at the strip club.
Speaker 2: I went I was at Soho Warehouse and across the
Speaker 2: street is a strip club. I don't know what the
Speaker 2: fuck it's called, but anyway, I was bored and I
Speaker 2: was like, fuck it, let's keep the night going. So
Speaker 2: I saw a guy throwing fives and I was throwing ones,
Speaker 2: and I was like, damn, bro, Like I see how
Speaker 2: people get into bottle wars brain because I was.
Speaker 1: Like, oh, you want to fuck with me like this.
Speaker 2: First of all, I'm already the cute one at the stage,
Speaker 2: so the bitch is coming to me anyway, let's be honest, and.
Speaker 1: Now you got to throw the fives to try to
Speaker 1: take the attention for me. So I'm like, damn. It
Speaker 1: is crazy how.
Speaker 2: Strip club culture for Americans makes you almost compete. But
Speaker 2: what I do enjoy about the strip club, especially on
Speaker 2: a date, is just kind of like chatting about the
Speaker 2: girls with someone having the sexy dance. But I also
Speaker 2: love burlesque shows and things like that, Like I love
Speaker 2: being entertained by sexuality and you just try it.
Speaker 1: It'd be fun.
Speaker 8: I would go if it was like a date or
Speaker 8: something like that. But like if me and the homies
Speaker 8: are like, oh, it's hit the strip club, I'm.
Speaker 6: Like I d just go to bed.
Speaker 1: Are you on the apps?
Speaker 8: Like what apps like dating apps. I recently got a Hinge,
Speaker 8: but that was because of a brand deal.
Speaker 1: So I also tired.
Speaker 8: No look because I went on a day in a
Speaker 8: one time and the first swipe I dated the girl
Speaker 8: for like four years, So I was like I already
Speaker 8: caught a w off of a day and app happen again. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I'm like I'm good now you know, and now I'm
Speaker 8: in a position where like people kind of already know
Speaker 8: who I am. So it's like going on dating app
Speaker 8: just it's like.
Speaker 1: Well, you at least know they like you.
Speaker 8: If they well a lot of it, it's like them
Speaker 8: just being like I loved you on the show or whatever,
Speaker 8: like oh, they.
Speaker 1: Don't really want to they don't really want to go
Speaker 1: out on dates with you.
Speaker 8: They want to go on dates. But it's like it's
Speaker 8: weird now because now people feel like they know me
Speaker 8: in a sense ah, because it's like there's something about
Speaker 8: like a dating show as opposed to just like being
Speaker 8: like an online personality where people feel like they know
Speaker 8: you and how you date trust me, we know yep.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 2: On Hinge, you can send a message before someone accepts
Speaker 2: you and literally, oh I hate because my name is
Speaker 2: Gila and it's Giela on Hinge and I don't even
Speaker 2: be like, oh, weezy. But then at the same time,
Speaker 2: I'd be a liar if I said, like, I've talked
Speaker 2: about a few experiences where I've been on dates and
Speaker 2: dudes whack like they have no idea that I have
Speaker 2: a podcast, and then I find out they don't do
Speaker 2: know and that shit really bothers me.
Speaker 7: I hate that.
Speaker 1: So what do you do? What is an appropriate way
Speaker 1: for I don't let's say I'm meet you in a bar.
Speaker 1: I've seen perfect match.
Speaker 2: But also at the same time, it's like, oh my god,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't want to fuck the dom Gabriel.
Speaker 1: I just think this guy's hot.
Speaker 2: How does someone approach you and make you feel comfortable,
Speaker 2: even if they could be a fan of your work?
Speaker 1: I don't, Or you just want them to not have
Speaker 1: a Netflix account.
Speaker 8: No, that's happened to me too, where people try to
Speaker 8: act like, you know what I mean, they've never seen
Speaker 8: the show, And then.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie I did not know who you were. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so I watched Netflix, but I watched the shows. I'm
Speaker 1: I'm like a Bravo Housewives person, not into any of
Speaker 1: the dating. What else is it? Ultimatum? Love is blind?
Speaker 1: Love is blind? Go out to handle and what is yours?
Speaker 1: So I thought someone was coming in with a wheelchair today,
Speaker 1: but she had sent me your page and she was like,
Speaker 1: you haven't seen them on TikTok. I was like, oh, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I didn't say TikTok. I don't have TikTok oh, but
Speaker 1: the crime videos, I mean, I guess you're a meme.
Speaker 1: I was like, no for a good.
Speaker 8: Week, yeah, especially in La when it was like raining
Speaker 8: a lot, because I said, I asked, why was it
Speaker 8: raining when I was crying?
Speaker 2: So wait, I do want to know too, though, like
Speaker 2: what was that period of time? Like there was a
Speaker 2: point where I actually felt bad for you a little.
Speaker 1: Bit and I didn't even know you.
Speaker 2: I was like, then, I'm almost tired of seeing his assay?
Speaker 1: Do you want to answer back? So, most women, you believe,
Speaker 1: do know who you are, even though there may be
Speaker 1: something that don't.
Speaker 6: Yeah, like a lot of them do.
Speaker 1: Would you would you continue dating someone or entertaining someone
Speaker 1: who does know who you are or is a fan
Speaker 1: or are you against that?
Speaker 8: No, it's just like the authenticity of it you know
Speaker 8: what I mean, kind of pick up if someone's being
Speaker 8: actually genuine, if they fuck with you or not, or
Speaker 8: like just kind of in it just to like say,
Speaker 8: like because there is like I've been on a lot
Speaker 8: of launching relationships and only recently i've been single. So
Speaker 8: now I'm kind of seeing how people perceive me, especially
Speaker 8: being online by that, Like I never thought I was
Speaker 8: like attractive, Like I always like, oh, I'm like six
Speaker 8: out of ten solid, you know, And now it's like
Speaker 8: being linel It's like, Okay, there's a lot gay, a
Speaker 8: lot of attention from women.
Speaker 1: Did you have ugly dougly the ugly duckling phase.
Speaker 6: I didn't have an.
Speaker 8: Ugly duckling phase. I don't think I was ever Like
Speaker 8: maybe I was. I don't know, Like I'll shake I
Speaker 8: show you pictures when I was a kid. But I've
Speaker 8: always been in relationships, so I've always been loyal and
Speaker 8: I never kind of like I'm like a golden retriever,
Speaker 8: like if I'm with you, like I'm on ride or die,
Speaker 8: like I'm I'm with you, like I don't look anywhere else.
Speaker 8: And now that i've been single, I see like kind
Speaker 8: of like, you know, the outside world of perceiving me
Speaker 8: stuff like that, And I think there is a sort
Speaker 8: of thing of like, because I don't just be out
Speaker 8: here fucking I think there is like a kind of
Speaker 8: like a trophy of like kind of fucking dam a
Speaker 8: little bit whenever I talk to a woman.
Speaker 2: I think there's a trophy of fucking anyone that's popular.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think there's like, yeah, I think that.
Speaker 1: Uh, what's I don't know.
Speaker 2: We're in this really weird era of our lives where
Speaker 2: influencers are famous. No shade, you run a TV show,
Speaker 2: but like influencers are famous. Like literally, I was at
Speaker 2: a coffee shop and everybody's bugging out about.
Speaker 1: The little white girl.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what the fuck is going on? They're like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'm getting here TikTok Like it's a I don't understand
Speaker 2: even TikTok fame, right, Yeah, So I think that it
Speaker 2: kind of depends you live in LA that's also a
Speaker 2: fucking weird place. Like I think, uh, Mandy, somebody we
Speaker 2: were laughing at about them being a boor. Literally, I
Speaker 2: was leaving a club and he tapped me when I
Speaker 2: was getting in the car, and I was like, don't
Speaker 2: you do a podcast? Da da walk me back in
Speaker 2: the club and gave me a bottle. I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: it's because I was hot, Like okay, thank you. But
Speaker 2: things are, you know, super cloudy, and I do think
Speaker 2: that dating can be a scary place for that too.
Speaker 2: Like I've had men want to date me for access
Speaker 2: to things and you know, or even like I have
Speaker 2: I feel like I have a type and a lot
Speaker 2: of them are introverted or writers are working tech and like.
Speaker 1: They'd be asking me for a little plug.
Speaker 2: So it's a it's a weird time, but I do
Speaker 2: think we can find someone genuine throughout that. A lot
Speaker 2: of my famous friends I were fans of their work
Speaker 2: and I say.
Speaker 8: It, you know, yeah, Like I've gone on dates with
Speaker 8: like like a girl was like, oh, let's go, let's
Speaker 8: go for dinner and she's like telling me about how
Speaker 8: she just went through a breakup. She just I was like, okay,
Speaker 8: so you just wanted to go out with me just
Speaker 8: to kind of make them jealous, like oh, and she
Speaker 8: was like yeah, do you mind if I post push
Speaker 8: your on Instagram?
Speaker 1: I'm like, what, oh, bit, you better pay for that food?
Speaker 1: Does she pay for the meal? That's crazy? Can I
Speaker 1: take a picture to make my ex jealous.
Speaker 8: It was I was like, that's that was crazy to me.
Speaker 8: But I was like, I'll go ahead.
Speaker 1: You said go ahead and then still paid for the meal.
Speaker 1: I would have made some Wow.
Speaker 2: What was the question I was going to ask about? Oh,
Speaker 2: have you fucked anybody you're a fan of yet?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Good for you. Yeah, don't say the name.
Speaker 6: I'm not going to ask.
Speaker 1: That cloud bro me too too. Yeah, but he wasn't.
Speaker 1: I was a fan of it.
Speaker 2: Actually, I feel like, okay, okay, the only person that
Speaker 2: I really want to sleep with and I would like,
Speaker 2: I can't even do, Like if I saw him, I
Speaker 2: would never speak.
Speaker 1: But I have like one real crush skeptic.
Speaker 2: I feel like consistently fine. There's not a lot of
Speaker 2: like super handsome rappers, and if there are, they're two
Speaker 2: pretty It's like Asaps Skepta and who else for me has.
Speaker 1: Met the man Jason Momoa and right now burna boy,
Speaker 1: My god, that man is fun. I got and with
Speaker 1: with Khalifa is still in there. Okay, who are yours
Speaker 1: celebrity crushes?
Speaker 3: Uh?
Speaker 6: Say Zoe Kravitz, Zoe Kravitz, Hailey Williams from Paramore. Since
Speaker 6: I was a kid.
Speaker 2: Hailey from Paramore is not what I was ready to hear,
Speaker 2: but like.
Speaker 8: Okay, and then oh selfishly, it's a tie between like
Speaker 8: Glorilla or Sweetie.
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't know how to. I don't see how
Speaker 1: that's it's so different.
Speaker 6: Well like, I don't know.
Speaker 8: There's something about Gloriala that I'm just like, I would
Speaker 8: love just to, like do you like a deep voice?
Speaker 8: Like the deep I like like a woman that's like,
Speaker 8: maybe she'll gumbup me at some point.
Speaker 1: It's not.
Speaker 2: Like, hey, you might literally be the male version of Weezy.
Speaker 6: It's bad.
Speaker 1: We can go look for him together. Okay, I don't
Speaker 1: think it will be any surprise to you guys that
Speaker 1: My second pick of my favorite episode of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three comes from none other than our interview with Jason Love. Y'all,
Speaker 1: I can't even believe he answered my DM and that
Speaker 1: we got to set this up. But Jason Love was
Speaker 1: one of my favorite favorite episodes because not only is
Speaker 1: he a male porn star, which gave us a different
Speaker 1: spantage point of what it's like being in the porn industry,
Speaker 1: but Weezy and I were lit at the AVN awards
Speaker 1: that we were nominated for in twenty twenty three, and
Speaker 1: when we saw him, we both literally knew that we
Speaker 1: had to get him on to the show and what
Speaker 1: we did and he shared quite some interesting things, and
Speaker 1: interestingly enough, this is one of our top three also
Speaker 1: most viewed and most listened to episodes of the year.
Speaker 1: So here's a little tidbit of our conversation with Jason.
Speaker 1: Check it out. Because you get paid to have sex.
Speaker 1: Have you ever paid a woman ta have sex with you?
Speaker 9: I didn't have to pay, but you did.
Speaker 1: But I appreciate that, Okay, because so many men in
Speaker 1: their brains ay.
Speaker 9: No, which time I've done it multiple couple with sex workers.
Speaker 1: Somewhere, just regular women. How do you pay a regular
Speaker 1: woman girl? Like a bill? No? No, know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: like yea, because to me, that's not paying. But it's like,
Speaker 1: what's paying for sex?
Speaker 6: You?
Speaker 7: No, you're not going to just give cash?
Speaker 9: That's better way you in jared the vagina or whatever, right,
Speaker 9: and then you know, you treat the young lady something nice,
Speaker 9: you know, wait a day or two, give us some money,
Speaker 9: you know, hey, to take care of some bills.
Speaker 7: Technically it's bad for the.
Speaker 1: Mm. She like, you know what a nigga of money?
Speaker 1: She like, you ain't putting it on the table, right,
Speaker 1: What you done? Well, that's what I mean because to me,
Speaker 1: sex work.
Speaker 6: You get.
Speaker 1: Look dandy over there, lab because once I'm dressed up,
Speaker 1: she went like this, y'all like like like her ass
Speaker 1: was so big. I was doing that she jumping into
Speaker 1: a summer dress. Bitch. I'm like, look look at dandy.
Speaker 1: Danny was well, Danny was looking away. He's like, I
Speaker 1: Am not going to He was like hr hr on
Speaker 1: our last tour now because you out here getting getting
Speaker 1: naked in front of the god damn guess I was here. Now,
Speaker 1: you actually gave a tip without us asking for women
Speaker 1: writing you said that there was a position that was
Speaker 1: really uncomfortable. But our derve segment is a sex tip,
Speaker 1: and I would love actually for you because we also
Speaker 1: have been talking about threesomes goddamn all week, and it
Speaker 1: seems like you have a lot of three yes, but
Speaker 1: you have threesomes also, and it's not a train. We're
Speaker 1: not calling to the train here. You do a lot
Speaker 1: of m mL as well, where it's two men and
Speaker 1: a woman.
Speaker 7: We call it B B G boy boy girl.
Speaker 1: Oh is that the I portant thing?
Speaker 7: Is that?
Speaker 1: The why don't we see MMF so much in peorn
Speaker 1: categories and why I very really see BBB. But you
Speaker 1: know what Havana Ginger was handing, that is right, she
Speaker 1: was saying, when I do boy boy girls, Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: industry lingo versus civilian, but it's so weird though to me,
Speaker 1: the the the usage of boy and.
Speaker 9: Girl, because it seems one I didn't make that weird.
Speaker 1: Wow. Okay, So could you provide us a tip for
Speaker 1: I guess a woman in the scene as well as
Speaker 1: when you are performing with another man, a tip for
Speaker 1: the fellas who are interested in doing that as well.
Speaker 9: So when you say a boy boy girl, you're talking
Speaker 9: about like double penetration or you talking about just in
Speaker 9: general where the guy's getting in the front and one is, Oh,
Speaker 9: give us some DP tips.
Speaker 7: So DP for the guys.
Speaker 9: It should be understood that it needs to be like
Speaker 9: a pistol because the layer of skin between the female
Speaker 9: anus and vagina's real thin. So if you go in
Speaker 9: at the same time, it's like you're feeling the genius
Speaker 9: at the same time, it's horrible. So it's why you
Speaker 9: go pistol one in one out so.
Speaker 7: They never rub.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, y'all gotta be in sync, like yes, if
Speaker 1: it's not a piss, then you need to get everything important.
Speaker 1: When I'm done coming is to watch where there was
Speaker 1: like a mishap.
Speaker 7: I see the outtakes.
Speaker 1: Bro Wait, this should be so funny, especially when it's
Speaker 1: be trying to go crazy or especially the dudes will
Speaker 1: like lay down and then they try to take two
Speaker 1: dicks like the DV or DP while they're.
Speaker 7: That same dick in a hole. That's why I retired
Speaker 7: the first time.
Speaker 1: Why Why?
Speaker 9: Because because I was doing I was doing the scene
Speaker 9: with this white guy and a young lady right brown.
Speaker 7: So we're going at it.
Speaker 9: It's like a dumble penetration. So I'm at the bottom.
Speaker 9: I'm in a vagina, right, We're going at it. We're
Speaker 9: killing it right. All of a sudden, I feel the
Speaker 9: vagina get really tight, like we've.
Speaker 7: Been doing this shit for forty minutes right here, Like
Speaker 7: why is this shit getting tired? All of a sudden?
Speaker 1: Right on?
Speaker 7: Situation finished, I keep going and I'm professional.
Speaker 9: Everybody's laughing. I'm looking around like all right, I'm silly.
Speaker 9: I want to laugh too, what's going on? Hush suspicious,
Speaker 9: but they're still laughing, right, all right, So I go
Speaker 9: look at the main camera. I rewind it and I look,
Speaker 9: this motherfucker thinks dick out and put it in the vagina
Speaker 9: with me.
Speaker 7: So I would think with sword fighting in the same
Speaker 7: hole I spassed out.
Speaker 1: No, wait, so you I'm sure people ask you this.
Speaker 1: I can. I believe you. But maybe because it was wet,
Speaker 1: you didn't realize it.
Speaker 9: Well, no, obviously I'm performing. Actually I'm getting it in.
Speaker 9: Then all of a sudden, I just feel some instantly
Speaker 9: tight and it's something like muscles over whatever, paying no mind.
Speaker 9: But then when I go back in hindsight you look
Speaker 9: at the video, I'm like, oh, I'm like, okay.
Speaker 7: So if I flashyt whoop everybody on set, I would
Speaker 7: be wrong. I'd be the bad.
Speaker 1: So DV is a no few DV.
Speaker 7: No DV the like double bass yet which is so?
Speaker 2: Is that something in contract that because like the way
Speaker 2: you spassed out, right, like that's something that you out
Speaker 2: were like, we're not doing this and they still let
Speaker 2: it happen. Exactly do you have things on there besides
Speaker 2: your booty hole? Like DV, I don't do I have
Speaker 2: that oh at the time okay, which.
Speaker 1: Is crazy because we talk about consent a lot and
Speaker 1: so unseen. Is that a thing that you that you
Speaker 1: do with with the other performers? What things can I do?
Speaker 1: What can I do? Like? Or is it talked about
Speaker 1: by the director like do you have that one on
Speaker 1: one time to talk to the people that you're about
Speaker 1: to perform with?
Speaker 7: Yes?
Speaker 1: No, he turned it into me not yet what was
Speaker 1: your question to get me? Because I missed Just if
Speaker 1: he goes through like kind of asking someone their their
Speaker 1: triggers or things that they don't like, like what can
Speaker 1: I do?
Speaker 6: Like?
Speaker 1: Even sometimes it could be to where we talked about it.
Speaker 1: I can't remember with who, but we asked if they
Speaker 1: like being slack, like yeah, you can slap me, but
Speaker 1: not in my face? So like literally, you know.
Speaker 7: There's even what is it called does and don'ts?
Speaker 1: Do's and don'ts? Okay? And you talk you talk every
Speaker 1: time before set with with the person that you're performing
Speaker 1: with about that.
Speaker 2: So when you work with new girls and is this
Speaker 2: something that maybe it is almost too much work because
Speaker 2: you have so much experience in this industry that.
Speaker 7: You're like, I don't know I like to teach them
Speaker 7: so it's fun.
Speaker 2: Actually, what type of tips do you give to a
Speaker 2: new upcoming for and start men and women?
Speaker 7: Like for the women, you know, it's temple, like go
Speaker 7: crazy temple, And I thought you was some of.
Speaker 9: I'm gonna want to be crazy the whole time, like none,
Speaker 9: stop going, like calm down.
Speaker 1: What's the longest what's the longest set you've shot? Like
Speaker 1: how long have you fucked for one scene?
Speaker 7: Maybe two hours for the use, like forty minutes.
Speaker 1: With your dick? No, no, I'll give up take out
Speaker 1: of that. She had to be sucking it for about
Speaker 1: one because there's no someone is taking that dick for
Speaker 1: two hours. Poor women.
Speaker 2: My next and final pick for this year's top twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three episodes was the episode featuring Hazel Grace. She's
Speaker 2: a porn star, a black woman that's like really featured
Speaker 2: in so many different categories, to be honest with you,
Speaker 2: interracial black men, les mean, like she's lit. But what
Speaker 2: was crazy about Hazel Grace?
Speaker 1: She had a boyfriend.
Speaker 2: They let her have other boyfriends, but her sugar daddy
Speaker 2: paid for the wedding. Oh, she had a husband, that's right,
Speaker 2: She had a husband and the sugar Daddy paid for
Speaker 2: the wedding girls tea and just listen and take notes, ladies.
Speaker 2: I don't know if people think doms fuck pun.
Speaker 10: They do on Twitter, there's like a thin line of
Speaker 10: like so many doms that have the dominame on them
Speaker 10: and they're fucking well.
Speaker 1: And that's what I was saying. I wanted to bring
Speaker 1: that exact point up because literally when you came in
Speaker 1: and I was like, uh, like, I'm dominant, but I've
Speaker 1: never attached the dom title to myself because technically I
Speaker 1: feel like I'm dominating a man when I peg them.
Speaker 1: That is penetration. There's other times where I lead, I direct,
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm a dominant. I've probably misused calling
Speaker 1: myself a dom so many times because it's how I
Speaker 1: am in the bedroom where I'm not as the missive.
Speaker 1: I switch a lot, but anytime I've met true doms,
Speaker 1: I'd be like, bitch, I don't even know if I
Speaker 1: could do it. But also what I found interesting when
Speaker 1: we were taking our picture, Weezy was like, now look mean,
Speaker 1: and you're like, I'm a sweet dom, so can you
Speaker 1: express too, like how you instill the dominatrix feel by
Speaker 1: power while also being sweet.
Speaker 10: I'm just authentically myself. So I'm just a sweet, good
Speaker 10: person regardless. And so when clients come to me, it's
Speaker 10: obviously they want me to fulfill something.
Speaker 1: So that's just my job.
Speaker 10: I'm not here, I'm not Yeah, I'm not here to
Speaker 10: be a bitch unless you're paying me to humiliate you
Speaker 10: or you know what I mean. Like, and to get
Speaker 10: clients to keep coming back, you want to make them
Speaker 10: feel welcome and heard and seen, you know. So when
Speaker 10: I first started doming, and I would see these subjects
Speaker 10: always like you're so sweet, you're social, and then I
Speaker 10: realized they always come back, and I've had these clients forever,
Speaker 10: and then I was like, well, I guess I guess
Speaker 10: it's working, Like I guess me just being me, just
Speaker 10: working instead of being a bitch.
Speaker 1: I feel like in our brains we think of this. Uh.
Speaker 1: And even when I said look mean, I didn't even
Speaker 1: mean mean more than I meant like serious, because I'm
Speaker 1: thinking of a dog in the way of pointing their
Speaker 1: finger and being really right.
Speaker 10: So I am very bossy where it's like, but most
Speaker 10: of my clients are obedient.
Speaker 1: I don't have to get bitchy.
Speaker 10: I'm just like sit over here, do this, don't do that,
Speaker 10: stop talking like you know, and they just they just listen.
Speaker 1: Do you have anything you like to be humiliated or
Speaker 1: talk down on? I do? You're so sweet? I want
Speaker 1: to hear. I want to hear. How you would I.
Speaker 10: Just get real like you a bitch ass nigga like
Speaker 10: just they love it if they're white. I'm like you white.
Speaker 2: Bitch, just be like yess yes, so wow? Do you
Speaker 2: for your humiliations real quick? Can he give y'all a massage?
Speaker 2: Like he's here to do stop work, but he's not
Speaker 2: here to look like.
Speaker 1: Okay, I guess it's your shoes already off. You could
Speaker 1: go first.
Speaker 10: Okay, he needs to get his lotion because he can't
Speaker 10: prepare it. Yeah, oh he has. He's good, but I am.
Speaker 1: If you are watching on YouTube, we can't really love. Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I ask you, just.
Speaker 2: The field, not your phoenix's job, but just the field.
Speaker 2: So I want people that are listening that are thank you. Okay,
Speaker 2: this is my favorite thing in the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Like, I want people that are listening that may feel
Speaker 2: like they might want to service their partner or someone.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, whoa this is good. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I want to know, like how normal is Phoenix or
Speaker 2: do you not even know? Uh, we have a regular conversation.
Speaker 2: He's normal, I guess.
Speaker 1: But what field of work, what field of work that
Speaker 1: he does?
Speaker 10: He's do you say he's looking at me there?
Speaker 1: I would say corporate? Corporate? And what is I guess
Speaker 1: the average? The average so more than others? What is
Speaker 1: the average industry? You would say corporate?
Speaker 10: So like I have a lot of like really okay, yeah,
Speaker 10: I got like a few doctors.
Speaker 1: Okay you is it true?
Speaker 2: Like how they would always say policemen are like the
Speaker 2: ones I want to be humiliated?
Speaker 1: Like do you find that your clients said.
Speaker 10: Are I don't know if I've ever had a policeman?
Speaker 10: Now that you say that takes them a long.
Speaker 1: Way to make? Yeah, I do to help the money
Speaker 1: to play it well, that academy Bacon Bakederland, that's why
Speaker 1: there's so many corrupt cops, bro.
Speaker 2: Drug maybe the ones I don't know when I say
Speaker 2: that to say, do you find that the subs that
Speaker 2: serve you or want to be humiliated are in very.
Speaker 1: Demanding corporate roles? Yes?
Speaker 10: And that's the thing they're like, Oh I I boast
Speaker 10: people around all day I like, I'm always in charge,
Speaker 10: so it's always good to come in unwine and then
Speaker 10: someone's the boss of me and tells me what to do.
Speaker 2: Is there a personality trait or maybe a common theme
Speaker 2: that your subs have besides there.
Speaker 10: Were besides the fact that they're all white married, are
Speaker 10: they like a lot of them are married.
Speaker 1: A lot of them are married. A lot of them
Speaker 1: aren't asked their wives to do this to them. They're
Speaker 1: just scared. Usually they are really scared. Okay.
Speaker 2: Also, Eddie, I'm telling me it's better if it's someone
Speaker 2: that like you can really lock into this role. That's
Speaker 2: why I liking the little sugar Daddy. They got to
Speaker 2: be married. Bro, I don't want a single I don't
Speaker 2: want a single Sugardaddy. I want to marry sugardaddy where
Speaker 2: arrangement is known out the fucking gate.
Speaker 1: To be fair, mine had a lot of time on
Speaker 1: his hands to go behage. But I liked it. You
Speaker 1: like your sugar daddy. He was fun. See, I don't
Speaker 1: want to like my sugar. I don't want to like
Speaker 1: when we.
Speaker 2: Went to Panama and I remember like he was like
Speaker 2: wanting to pay for fusty and get girls like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is great, and he was like, I don't want
Speaker 2: to make you upset.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh you are.
Speaker 2: Not, please get that. But yeah, the line was difficult
Speaker 2: to not be crossed. But damn this is good.
Speaker 1: We listen, well, we gonna keep it going. We are
Speaker 1: going to get into our vanilla ship. So o, vanilla
Speaker 1: ship is sex in the news. And this is a
Speaker 1: crazy one. It's a little wild, it's a little nuts.
Speaker 1: This is wild. Yes. So a man who proke, who
Speaker 1: previously spoke about his sexual relationship with his car, has
Speaker 1: revealed that he's dumped his old motor for a new
Speaker 1: set of wheels. There is a man who was talking
Speaker 1: about his friends with benefits relationship with his car and
Speaker 1: why it's so pleasurable. A man who asserted his love
Speaker 1: for his nineteen ninety eight Chevy Monte Carloan on TLC
Speaker 1: Is My Strange Addiction has ditched that rusty engine and
Speaker 1: gotten a new car. He starting the documentary back in
Speaker 1: twenty twelve. God, can I get the left foot? Are
Speaker 1: you getting both? The you gotta get the who you
Speaker 1: getting into?
Speaker 6: Time?
Speaker 1: Sorry?
Speaker 2: While side note, I almost like can't wait for the
Speaker 2: switch because I'm like, this is so too good.
Speaker 1: Okay, so he says, when you last saw me a
Speaker 1: decade ago, I was in an intimate relationship with my
Speaker 1: car Chase. He actually did give his car a name,
Speaker 1: like Wow, Yes, is this the TLC guy? Yes, this
Speaker 1: is the TLC guy. So we may have talked about
Speaker 1: him before, but he's pretty much talking about this friends
Speaker 1: with benefits, relationship with a fleet of wheels. I do
Speaker 1: want to get to. So he turned in that bullshit
Speaker 1: car and now has a sexy black I love how
Speaker 1: they use the word sexy and sleek. Trying to okay,
Speaker 1: sleek sexy black Lexus he has three thirty caught his eye.
Speaker 1: Although he made it clear that his relationship with lex
Speaker 1: that's the name is merely physical in nowhere near serious,
Speaker 1: he seemingly looks at her over the rest. He even
Speaker 1: gave her a cute nickname, baby girl. Flex isn't the
Speaker 1: only love of my life right now. I've been expanding
Speaker 1: the family. Amongst said family is Jordan, a hot, sexy
Speaker 1: and luxurious, luxurious Sedan. Nathaniel can't keep his dirty pause,
Speaker 1: who was the fuck is Sadan? He admitted that he's
Speaker 1: always touching up on Jordan and giving him kisses, so
Speaker 1: he is like sexual and physical with these cars. I
Speaker 1: show affection for Jordan in many ways we've been intimate.
Speaker 1: When Nathaniel is in the mood for a dominant, manly car,
Speaker 1: he turns to his big black suv Jet. He said,
Speaker 1: Jet has a cute butt that was more defined by
Speaker 1: his hot tail lights.
Speaker 2: There are moments where like, I have a lot of
Speaker 2: white friends. I don't think they're this way. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna lie, Phoenix, are you that white to car?
Speaker 7: I mean to have?
Speaker 1: Well, no, there are, but these now intimate relationships, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, you gotta have quite a bit of money.
Speaker 1: Is the dan Maybe not so much. A nigga got
Speaker 1: elected a gee he got three three cars minimum, which
Speaker 1: is why he thinks. And the fact that he's calling
Speaker 1: this expanding his family while he's having friends with benefits
Speaker 1: relationships with all he got. I want there is video.
Speaker 1: This is him kissing Chase. I guess Nathaniel has a
Speaker 1: shrine for Chase in his bedroom. This is what people
Speaker 1: need to play video games. You see what I'm saying. No,
Speaker 1: this is crazy. This is don't say that. This is
Speaker 1: what keeps men from kissing cars is playing video games.
Speaker 1: I'm saying, get another hobby, just so you know. Just
Speaker 1: like most people in relationships with family photos and things
Speaker 1: around their house, Nathaniel has a shrine for Chase in
Speaker 1: his bedroom, which includes blankets, hellowcases, picture frames that are
Speaker 1: each embedded with a picture of him and his old card. Okay, well, no,
Speaker 1: by the way, there's another car called Adam, and he
Speaker 1: wraps his legs around him. It feels like he's hugging them.
Speaker 1: They used to spend more time on the lake with him,
Speaker 1: but it's been a while. This is also an American manual.
Speaker 1: I wonder if you get to jerk off in like
Speaker 1: is it on the leather? Is the steering wheel? Is
Speaker 1: it the outside car? We will be that our sex
Speaker 1: and I will tell y'all my ex had a big,
Speaker 1: old car and it was the best car sex I've
Speaker 1: ever had. And he was also huge. But there would
Speaker 1: be times where he would park the car and instead
Speaker 1: of waiting to go upstairs, I would fuck him in
Speaker 1: the backseat of the truck because it was so every
Speaker 1: time we left the goddamn Nude Beach, we would sucking
Speaker 1: the parking lot like car sex in this on the
Speaker 1: Nude Beach. No fuck no, okay that what people do
Speaker 1: that is illegal even in a sex club. You're insign
Speaker 1: out like the cars legal, Okay, as long as nobody
Speaker 1: sees you. It's only illegal if you're caught. She would
Speaker 1: have been a lot a bitch, so it ain't. I
Speaker 1: don't be illegal if someone seesy legal. Let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: People don't understand how I mean.
Speaker 2: I feel like we've talked about this, but I would
Speaker 2: love to hear you talk about putting this out somewhere.
Speaker 1: I'm sure someone's told you you're doing something wrong. Thing
Speaker 1: you Phoenix was so good? Oh that was good. You
Speaker 1: could take this shoe off trying to kick you. See,
Speaker 1: I'm a dominant dominon.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, tell us a little bit about how domination
Speaker 2: domination is legal and why is it?
Speaker 1: Or is it? Is it? I mean now? And then
Speaker 1: I don't know. I try to look it up. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 10: I have I have a I have a client who's
Speaker 10: a lawyer who wrote up like a whole contract for
Speaker 10: me to give to clients just in case to like
Speaker 10: cover my.
Speaker 1: Ass Really, one thing we're in that contract.
Speaker 10: That everything's consensual, that like you can't assume me it
Speaker 10: was just real well written lawyer.
Speaker 2: So from from what I've learned, trying to interrupt you,
Speaker 2: but I want you to know what you're doing is legal.
Speaker 2: On the TV show, I'm doing sex cells, I've only
Speaker 2: covered I covered three dungeons, one in particular, specifically the
Speaker 2: one in New York.
Speaker 7: You got to share you.
Speaker 6: I want to come every time we record.
Speaker 1: It's about to be the third unofficial god Deale.
Speaker 10: Next night, the night you gotta go, y'all got to
Speaker 10: pay me.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I told you it's hard to concentrate. Okay,
Speaker 1: go ahead. You could ask questions Mandy's like, are you interviewed? Okay?
Speaker 2: So on the TV show, I basically learned while going
Speaker 2: into a dungeon that the way that this particular dungeon
Speaker 2: is legal is because it's an acting.
Speaker 10: Studio, right, So that part, I know, like writing it
Speaker 10: uns as a studio, because the studios to be anything
Speaker 10: you know now as a person collecting fund right.
Speaker 1: The way they the what is illegal in specifically the
Speaker 1: state that we're living in, which is New York, work
Speaker 1: is intercourse correct? Right? She said she don't.
Speaker 10: But then I read something that if I'm penetrating, then
Speaker 10: that's technically intercourse, like if I'm and I have a
Speaker 10: strap on, then that's technically.
Speaker 2: Into course it is then I also read but that's
Speaker 2: also maybe if your sessions lead there. Correct, So there's
Speaker 2: this great area of someone paying you to act out
Speaker 2: a scene and then you get passionate and do something
Speaker 2: like if you decide to peg them, that's on you.
Speaker 10: Then I heard the whole giving the money directly like
Speaker 10: this is what I this is what I read like,
Speaker 10: given the money directly is where it's like, like.
Speaker 1: Girl, we got cash easily, I have to take the
Speaker 1: money directly.
Speaker 10: I just be like just in case, I'm like put
Speaker 10: it on the table and then they'll put it on
Speaker 10: the table.
Speaker 1: Now then, but what about in the age of digital money.
Speaker 10: Because you have to send me like get deposit through
Speaker 10: Have you ever had a payment block? When I first
Speaker 10: first started, someone requested their money back on paper, which
Speaker 10: is why it's how sex work is now.
Speaker 1: Never take paypals, Never ever take PayPal? Yes, ye do it?
Speaker 1: Why they just said no?
Speaker 10: But PayPal's so easy, like they'll give me your money
Speaker 10: back you didn't beat me up enough.
Speaker 1: But no, but to dispute on PayPal. But also they're
Speaker 1: not going to see here inside with the.
Speaker 10: Second Yeah, okactly, and it was a picture so thank
Speaker 10: god it wasn't a session, but it was like pictures
Speaker 10: up my feet. And then I don't know, He's just
Speaker 10: like hmm and whatever. He got his money back. Oh,
Speaker 10: it's fine. It was a lesson learned from me. And
Speaker 10: I was like, I'm in.
Speaker 2: La so and in California County the dungeon that I
Speaker 2: was in, do you have to pay for a space?
Speaker 2: And it's legal, so basically kind of like that acting
Speaker 2: studio thing, right, So if there's no brick and mortar
Speaker 2: or no address where you're in a space doing whatever
Speaker 2: you want, then it's not there's like mad little nuances
Speaker 2: to it. But I really appreciate that you had a
Speaker 2: lawyer who helped you through that, because I think anybody
Speaker 2: listening should figure it out, because at the end of
Speaker 2: the day, in my brain, I'm like, Okay, well, I'm
Speaker 2: not fucking for money. I'm not getting arrest right, correct.
Speaker 2: You never know some of y'all might live in but
Speaker 2: I don't know places.
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of like to be fair too, though,
Speaker 1: outside of fucking, they are considering a lot more things
Speaker 1: as sex work without sex exactly, which is why you
Speaker 1: being a dom, which is why even my foot page
Speaker 1: got removed. There's a lot of things that have not
Speaker 1: There's no penetration, there's no sex, there's no nudity. I
Speaker 1: had a foot page during uh the pandemics twenty four
Speaker 1: hours it was shut down for sex. This is like
Speaker 1: my what third page of me? Add I was about
Speaker 1: to say, she and I probably crazy. We've maybe only
Speaker 1: been following each other with like six months, yes, and
Speaker 1: she's went through like three pages and I don't post nothing.
Speaker 1: I don't post like she be posting out in New York.
Speaker 1: Her page is real regular. Yeah they smell it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they smell it.
Speaker 10: So though finally they'll because at first they wasn't telling
Speaker 10: me why they were spanding me, like Instagram would just
Speaker 10: take my ship and be like, but you.
Speaker 1: Think it's also because you do your name on there
Speaker 1: is step down dom. Maybe that when they filtered through
Speaker 1: the names in the water that's behind a lot of
Speaker 1: sex workers as well, sex worn there or yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know.
Speaker 10: I don't like they basically told me that I was
Speaker 10: selling sex, especially when they sent the back to me,
Speaker 10: they were like, you're selling sex and I'm like selling sex.
Speaker 1: Wow, oh, I mean to be fair. One of the
Speaker 1: other things that I guess got tagged when our page
Speaker 1: got removed. We were posting for performers. Okay, they said
Speaker 1: that performance for our lives. Yeah, they said we were
Speaker 1: soliciting sex just by saying we wanted performers. So it's
Speaker 1: and maybe because we used BDS them or because when
Speaker 1: we put for let's we put erotic poetry. But you
Speaker 1: know what, Kim Kardashian had her nipple on Instagram. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: ship is Actually, don't even use those hashtags. What do
Speaker 1: you say no to? Oh my hard nose.
Speaker 2: As a dom and if you can give us your
Speaker 2: subs hard notes too, if they have any Okay, my heart,
Speaker 2: my hard nose are blood play.
Speaker 1: I'm just readly not into plain and what way do
Speaker 1: people want to do blood? But blood play just.
Speaker 10: Like needles, just drawing blood, putting blood, like just anything
Speaker 10: with their blood.
Speaker 1: They're into that. I'm not really into like playing with
Speaker 1: people blood and me my blood. I don't even have
Speaker 1: sex on my period, won't do it. I see someone
Speaker 1: silent over on the couch. Yours is only like two days? Well,
Speaker 1: how long is your period? Five?
Speaker 2: Days, I was saying, so I'm fucking in there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'll fuck on the brown at least, dude, not fu
Speaker 2: on the brown is not. I just don't feel sexy
Speaker 2: on my period. Like I'll give you head.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Nope, I'm not teasing myself. I ain't giving you weird.
Speaker 1: It don't take me to not feel hot, bro.
Speaker 2: I honestly like, I think I could be in the
Speaker 2: hospital bed and be like, I'm pretty.
Speaker 1: Right, Like you just got right, all right, y'all. My
Speaker 1: last pick of the year comes from an episode that
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Speaker 2: There needs to be a conversation about depth of the vagina,
Speaker 2: not everybody's depth.
Speaker 11: Everybody's different. So I have a deep pussy.
Speaker 12: My guy to collegist told me I had a deep pussy. Yes,
Speaker 12: I was going for my checkup and you know, they
Speaker 12: put the little click click lickick. So he puts it
Speaker 12: in there and he got you know, I guess a
Speaker 12: regular size one.
Speaker 11: And he put it in there and.
Speaker 1: He click click click.
Speaker 12: He's like, couldn't see whatever he was trying to get.
Speaker 12: He was like, you have a very deep vagina. I'm
Speaker 12: gonna have to get the longer one.
Speaker 1: Close it out.
Speaker 11: No, yeah, in front of the nurse, in front of
Speaker 11: the nurse.
Speaker 12: Because you know, they gotta if it's a man, they
Speaker 12: gotta have the nurse in there. I'm like embarrassing, Like
Speaker 12: this nigga just said, I got a deep ass pussy
Speaker 12: pulls out the bigger one so he could get back
Speaker 12: there and do what you gotta do.
Speaker 1: You know how deep you are on the insun deepest
Speaker 1: fun because when I tell you, that's literally what I
Speaker 1: say during sex. I say them, mother bitches can't take
Speaker 1: all this dick, Cannon. That's one of the things I
Speaker 1: say the niggas with big dicks. I pride myself on
Speaker 1: like they even I take it. A lot of bitches don't.
Speaker 1: That's why I had this is why I know they
Speaker 1: keep coming back because.
Speaker 12: A lot of women have shallow shallow, Yeah, they got shallow.
Speaker 1: I'll take I'll take my deep pussy with pride. Who
Speaker 1: I take it all? You put the balls in men
Speaker 1: cup in there and literally I mean okay, I didn't
Speaker 1: say it was wide. I said it was deep my pussy,
Speaker 1: not wide my pussy.
Speaker 11: D I prefer girls over limbs me.
Speaker 1: So I don't think I don't want a little pencil,
Speaker 1: Yeah no, but I want his long, last one, last
Speaker 1: one before we get to our vanilla ship. This is
Speaker 1: an ice uh an icebreaker question posed by the nick Cannon.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, he said, if you could only choose one,
Speaker 1: this is both y'all. Would you prefer amazing sex with
Speaker 1: a partner who is not monogamous or a lifelong trash
Speaker 1: or lifelong.
Speaker 2: Trash sex with a faithful partner not trash. But I'll
Speaker 2: take della he said trash. He didn't say vanilla. He
Speaker 2: said trash. Don't be changing up Nick Cannon's work.
Speaker 12: Well, I don't feel like anyone is monogamous, so I
Speaker 12: would take the good sex.
Speaker 1: You know, Like I just.
Speaker 11: Monogamy is overrated. So and I don't exist.
Speaker 1: No, What's what's dating like for you right now? Are
Speaker 1: you monogamous? Poaly dated someone?
Speaker 12: I'm monogamous by choice, just because I mean, I've never
Speaker 12: really been like a promiscuous person, you know.
Speaker 11: I mean in my younger years, Yeah, we was.
Speaker 12: I think we was all wild, But like I just
Speaker 12: I don't know. I'm a lover girl at heart, you know,
Speaker 12: hope it's romantic. I'm a pis.
Speaker 1: Oh we're not gonna pipe of March.
Speaker 11: I'm in February, February twenty seven.
Speaker 1: So yeah, he had.
Speaker 2: In the beginning of our show, Mandy and I got
Speaker 2: into this huge argument episode three.
Speaker 12: Libra right, yes, yeah, but I love libras though that's
Speaker 12: my problem.
Speaker 11: I'm attracted to fucking libras.
Speaker 1: Oh libra man, bitch, I would never, never, bitch, I
Speaker 1: would never don't miss. I'm like, don't and I'm not
Speaker 1: even stars and moons, but libraman.
Speaker 12: I'm always attracted to libra men. There as are some
Speaker 12: reason they're good, they're great, but they're but they're better friends. Yes,
Speaker 12: they're great friends. Yes, why is it dick the problem?
Speaker 12: They have good dick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they got good, very sexual. I don't but them niggas,
Speaker 1: theretober niggas.
Speaker 11: I'd be like, yeah, they're very charismatic. They just they
Speaker 11: say all the right.
Speaker 1: Things, they do the right about the moons. I want
Speaker 1: to do them niggas. I've been scarred for life. All
Speaker 1: my niggas in my early twenties, all libras, bitch. The
Speaker 1: nigga fucked at your house, the one that used to
Speaker 1: come over all the time to my house. Yeah you know,
Speaker 1: I used to suck him at your house. Started with
Speaker 1: a Jane Orlando bro. I don't remember shit from when
Speaker 1: we were fifteen, bitch, No, I wasn't fifteen. This is
Speaker 1: back when I was like eighteen nineteen. And your friend
Speaker 1: fucked him too, and I was like, so, bitch, you
Speaker 1: just gonna sit here and be friends with that bitch
Speaker 1: who fuck the nigga? You know, I'll be fucking you know.
Speaker 11: I feel like that happens a lot. Oh yeah, oh
Speaker 11: that one. I think that happens a lot when you
Speaker 11: are young.
Speaker 1: We shared a lot of.
Speaker 11: Dicks, me and my friends.
Speaker 1: I like to share him now, I mean you know
Speaker 1: now you don't share dig now. Yeah.
Speaker 12: Sometimes, Okay, I'm the friend that you know, I'm so
Speaker 12: cool that they always asked me to have a threesome
Speaker 12: with them because they know I really don't want that nigga,
Speaker 12: and I'm just.
Speaker 1: Okay. I know I was waiting for that relationship, but
Speaker 1: I was like, the way you come.
Speaker 11: To New York, I could do that.
Speaker 2: Do you think that like characteristics of a person like this,
Speaker 2: like being fun, free spirited, down to fuck and ship
Speaker 2: like that, that a porn star should have that?
Speaker 1: Do you think that they should?
Speaker 12: Absolutely there's nothing worse than like a porn star who's
Speaker 12: a fucking prude or like a bougie, like stuck up
Speaker 12: like what you're a fucking porn star, bitch, or like
Speaker 12: any like you shoot.
Speaker 11: Content like or anything. You're only fans, girl or whatever.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 12: Now it's a lot of do you have that attitude
Speaker 12: of it. But here's the thing. Those are not porn stars.
Speaker 12: Those are girls doing porn.
Speaker 1: They're entrepreneurs. Oh there the conversation we had on this
Speaker 1: camera before they're doing stop it, stop it.
Speaker 2: There was a girl that came in who told us
Speaker 2: she did She said, I'm not a porn star.
Speaker 1: I don't do porn. She says, you don't do porn.
Speaker 1: I do only I do. I do content.
Speaker 12: Here's the thing, a lot of girls became porn stars
Speaker 12: during the pandemic. So like me and my we call
Speaker 12: those pandemic porn stars because they would have never did
Speaker 12: that if everything didn't get shut down. They resort, Yeah,
Speaker 12: they wouldn't have did that, and then dick out of love.
Speaker 12: And then you get these girls. You get their OnlyFans,
Speaker 12: and they're not even fucking or having side.
Speaker 11: They're not they're not doing anything.
Speaker 1: I've just subscribed to people because I now am definitely
Speaker 1: an only fan supporter, and I'm so upset when I
Speaker 1: get on there. I'm paying my money. But what I
Speaker 1: do now is I subscribe for like two months or
Speaker 1: three time, so I could see it first, the way
Speaker 1: they'll literally put up eleven second clips, seventeen second clips.
Speaker 1: I can't rub one.
Speaker 12: I was nutting on that they're not doing full food,
Speaker 12: nutting on that I can't.
Speaker 1: And I like.
Speaker 12: Watching like amateur stuff. I can't watch like corn peoples
Speaker 12: because I know them in real life, or like I know,
Speaker 12: you know, the behind the scenes stuff like I would
Speaker 12: like watching amateurs.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm not gonna lie. You know, back in our
Speaker 1: day I saw That's probably why I love Twitter porn Now.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go back to watching the girls
Speaker 1: that I know in real life.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 13: It's weird, is that behind the scenes stuff. What's the
Speaker 13: first day of porn work? Like they're super nervous. Let's
Speaker 13: say it's an anal scene. They can't open up, so
Speaker 13: you know, I'm trying to.
Speaker 12: I'm telling them tips how to take the dick, Like
Speaker 12: you gotta relax, you gotta push out when the dick
Speaker 12: is going in, Like you're gonna go to the scenes.
Speaker 1: Are you going in? Waking up and putting a butt
Speaker 1: plug in? Like do you train your butt that day
Speaker 1: or the night before?
Speaker 11: Like me personally, No, I never did Okay, never did all.
Speaker 12: Right, I'm gifted from I never but now, but if
Speaker 12: I try to do anal now, girl, I think all
Speaker 12: those years of doing anal, like, I can't do it now.
Speaker 1: I don't ask what's something.
Speaker 2: Somebody would be surprised that, like maybe whether it be
Speaker 2: like you love missionary or something like, what's something that
Speaker 2: would surprise people about you?
Speaker 12: I don't think it's a surprise, but like I like pegging,
Speaker 12: Like I like pegg now, ma'am, how is that not
Speaker 12: as well?
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't.
Speaker 11: I mean I most and I like it.
Speaker 1: But oh, I got somebody here with a gang bang bitch.
Speaker 1: Why you ain't tell me you was into this? I
Speaker 1: thought you knew, ma'am.
Speaker 11: I mean it's not a secret, but.
Speaker 1: Oh you're not.
Speaker 11: I have pegged guys on film before.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's why. But we don't know if you like
Speaker 1: any personal life. Oh yeah, oh I guess you.
Speaker 12: Just I never do stuff that, Yeah, I never. Well, yeah,
Speaker 12: well you wouldn't know that in US.
Speaker 1: Okay, So then so then in our whore dirve, I
Speaker 1: need two sex tips. Then I would love to know
Speaker 1: how you approach somebody or go about pegging somebody for
Speaker 1: the first time and then I also need a titty
Speaker 1: fucking tip from you, because duh. But let's start with
Speaker 1: a pegging tip.
Speaker 11: They usually approached me. I ain't gonna don't. They don't,
Speaker 11: I've never never.
Speaker 1: You look like they literally watched your videos doing that.
Speaker 12: Yeah, and then you know, they come out of the
Speaker 12: woodworks like you know, I've always wanted that to happen
Speaker 12: to me, And I'm.
Speaker 11: Like, oh, you copy my surprise. I never would have
Speaker 11: thought that.
Speaker 1: So then how do you prepare them if it's like
Speaker 1: their first time?
Speaker 11: Like what are you good at that?
Speaker 12: I'm good at making them I'm good at making them
Speaker 12: feel You just gotta make.
Speaker 11: Them feel very comfortable relax.
Speaker 1: How do you do that?
Speaker 11: You have to make sure that you have all the
Speaker 11: right tools to lube.
Speaker 12: You know, fucking the ass is different from fucking a
Speaker 12: pussy because it's more sensitive. You have to be more gentle.
Speaker 12: You can't just like fuck the ship out of an asshole.
Speaker 12: You gotta warm it up. So there has to be
Speaker 12: a lot of for play. You have to get them
Speaker 12: like super relaxed. And I like to I'm kind of
Speaker 12: a little bit of a dom so, like I like
Speaker 12: to slap certain muscles like the you know, the thighs
Speaker 12: and the chest and.
Speaker 1: You them, Yeah, you slap them. You wake them up,
Speaker 1: wake them up, you know, relaxes.
Speaker 11: We get some more comfortable yeah, to where they're you know.
Speaker 1: They know that they're stubbing at this point, right even
Speaker 1: just do you talk? I do?
Speaker 12: But it's crazy because I like, am I personal like
Speaker 12: with my man or with someone i'm with, I don't.
Speaker 12: So I've never I've never okay, I've never pegged anyone
Speaker 12: I've been in a relationship with.
Speaker 1: I mean neither. Okay, So yeah, I only peg men
Speaker 1: that it's just.
Speaker 11: Like, yeah, that's what that's right. Yeah, I don't think
Speaker 11: a lot of men.
Speaker 1: A lot of people ask me, could I be with
Speaker 1: someone that I pegged? Would I still have the respect?
Speaker 1: Asked that a lot? Right, So then mentally, why did
Speaker 1: you guys both through that? Why have you not pegged
Speaker 1: someone that you've been in a relationship with.
Speaker 12: Usually they're never into it, so like if they wanted to,
Speaker 12: I would like, whatever you if you if you wanted to,
Speaker 12: I would, But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I as so many times. Okay, then when you have
Speaker 1: when you peg, just.
Speaker 12: It's not like I wanted some respect for them, but like,
Speaker 12: I don't know if I could.
Speaker 1: Why, Like, see, we both get at it. It's a
Speaker 1: mental there's some type of mental block. You don't want
Speaker 1: to be with someone you dominate. Is that it? Maybe,
Speaker 1: but you could dominate in other ways that don't include peggy.
Speaker 1: You submissive and.
Speaker 11: I'm but also too.
Speaker 12: I'm a switch, So I like to be domb and
Speaker 12: then I like to be you know, submissive too, depending
Speaker 12: on the mood of the situation.
Speaker 11: So like I go back and forth. Usually when people
Speaker 11: domb or they sub they do one or the other.
Speaker 12: They don't do both. So I switch. I like to
Speaker 12: go back and forth. It's just like a balance, just
Speaker 12: like when I'm having sex. You know, do you like
Speaker 12: love making or do you like it rough?
Speaker 4: I like both?
Speaker 12: Like it has to be, yeah, a balance giving the
Speaker 12: libra scale, y'all.
Speaker 11: I just I don't know.
Speaker 12: I don't could I be with someone I don't know?
Speaker 12: I don't and I don't know what that block is.
Speaker 1: Maybe I don't know.
Speaker 12: I've never been in that situation to where like the
Speaker 12: person I was with was like, I want you to
Speaker 12: peck me.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna hold you the niggas that I'll be
Speaker 1: pegging out here in La. If I ain't got my strap,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to see what were we doing? Fucking
Speaker 1: regular no o'kas uh the other tip I need you
Speaker 1: to give the people? Oh yeah, I literally I don't know. Wait,
Speaker 1: do you have just the dudes that you peg? Do
Speaker 1: you fuck them? Yeah?
Speaker 7: Oh you don't know.
Speaker 12: Oh, I guess if that's like the dominance.
Speaker 1: Thing, they don't even get to fuck you and you
Speaker 1: don't fuck their asshole.
Speaker 11: They usually don't.
Speaker 1: Oh, they just want.
Speaker 11: They usually don't like they come too fast for.
Speaker 5: Like to ever get to the pussy, you know what
Speaker 5: I mean, that's where they come to yes, from just
Speaker 5: like friction and just like being turned on and mentally, Yeah,
Speaker 5: it's me.
Speaker 2: With my ex when I would like to strap up, Like, oh,
Speaker 2: how do you come if you can't feel like the
Speaker 2: friction does it?
Speaker 12: I feel like people just don't like aren't comfortable enough
Speaker 12: to like go there with themselves.
Speaker 1: Well, because mentally, if there's any or your question why
Speaker 1: you're enjoying something, you're not going to be able to
Speaker 1: end at the moment of just being in it. And
Speaker 1: we say it all the time, like sex is way
Speaker 1: more psychological. Oh, yeah, than physical. So the fact that
Speaker 1: you said you came an orgasm every scene you've done
Speaker 1: is because you're going in there and on a psychological level,
Speaker 1: you're going in there even.
Speaker 12: If it wasn't like let's say it was like a
Speaker 12: guy that I'm not very attracted to. I find one
Speaker 12: thing about that person that I am attracted to, and
Speaker 12: I get off off that. And if there's nothing, I
Speaker 12: get off on the fact that he would never be
Speaker 12: able to fuck me if it wasn't.
Speaker 11: For this scene.
Speaker 12: And then I get off on that, Like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 12: like fucking this dude, because you know, I'm.
Speaker 1: I'm not getting that's exactly I'm getting paid for it.
Speaker 2: But brothel and they said that Mustang ranch all the girls,
Speaker 2: I'm like, how do you feel when the dude comes
Speaker 2: in a lot of truckers come.
Speaker 1: In there, stuff like that, how do you feel?
Speaker 12: Like I could imagine they were like one thing, you
Speaker 12: find one thing, you find one thing.
Speaker 1: What's the strangest thing you thought someone was very unattractive?
Speaker 1: What's the one thing that you actually found attracted Like
Speaker 1: was it a knee keap? Was it an ankle? I
Speaker 1: need to know what's the strangest thing you thought was
Speaker 1: was that on somebody that could turn you on?
Speaker 11: That I wouldn't have thought.
Speaker 12: Yeah he was and I don't even like chess hair,
Speaker 12: but he was like older and he had chess hair,
Speaker 12: but it was like kind of sexy on him. Oh,
Speaker 12: like you know what I mean, So that I guess
Speaker 12: I was like the weirdest thing really because I don't
Speaker 12: like chess hair and he was just he was old
Speaker 12: and just so I'm like, you need to retire, bro,
Speaker 12: Like why are you still shooting? But like it wasn't
Speaker 12: gross or anything, but it was just like not what
Speaker 12: I wanted to go to set.
Speaker 2: Did you ever like fangirl over someone you fucked? Like
Speaker 2: you were like, oh my god, I can't believe I'm
Speaker 2: shooting with them today.
Speaker 12: Never what I found girls about girls I didn't get
Speaker 12: to shoot with, you know what I mean? Like who
Speaker 12: when I was on set with like Stormy Daniels and
Speaker 12: she was like I was like, oh, okay, what is
Speaker 12: her name?
Speaker 11: I can't tera Patrick? When I met Tara Patrick.
Speaker 1: But I don't think I know that name. I remember.
Speaker 12: He was more like the Jenna Jamison era. I think
Speaker 12: she was like Hawaiian some type of Asian, I like Asian.
Speaker 1: What about competitive fucking?
Speaker 2: Have you ever been on set and a girl was
Speaker 2: trying to like out fuck you or some shit?
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, those are the best scenes.
Speaker 12: Those are the best scenes where they be trying to like,
Speaker 12: what's crazy?
Speaker 1: Out do you and you're like, in regular threesomes that
Speaker 1: doesn't really work, but just get upset no usually ends
Speaker 1: in a fight. Literally, those are the best steps. So
Speaker 1: for porn porn, Yeah, for y'all to out fuck each
Speaker 1: other because because you're performing.
Speaker 11: Yeah, because you're performing.
Speaker 12: So it's like, okay, bitch, I'm gonna do this whole
Speaker 12: You do that, okay, And it's like kind of back
Speaker 12: and forth, like let's make this the best craziest.
Speaker 1: What about fighting? You ever got in argument on sets?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 11: Dingo made me cry.
Speaker 12: I'll set and I almost I was this, I almost
Speaker 12: walked off set. Wow, I'm pisces, I'm sensitive right. And
Speaker 12: I was still young, like I was this is the
Speaker 12: beginning of my career. I don't even think I had
Speaker 12: my boobs yet. I was still young. And he kind
Speaker 12: of like had this arrogant, kind of like asshole like demeanor,
Speaker 12: and I don't remember what I was doing I was
Speaker 12: in one of the rooms getting dressed and he comes
Speaker 12: in there, doesn't even introduce hisself, just comes in there,
Speaker 12: looks at me up and down, and he's like, you're ashy.
Speaker 11: You need to put some lotion on.
Speaker 1: And I was just like he did that before the shoot, before.
Speaker 12: The shooting, and I got a shoot with you, like
Speaker 12: he's the director and the talent. So it was like
Speaker 12: I was having a morning, so like that just set
Speaker 12: me off and I started crying.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm leaving. I don't gotta take this shit.
Speaker 11: I don't need this money, like did one of those.
Speaker 12: I was leaving out the door and he came and
Speaker 12: he's like he didn't think he did nothing wrong.
Speaker 11: He was just it was like the way he said
Speaker 11: it and how he said it. No, I didn't mean
Speaker 11: it like that.
Speaker 12: I was just saying like I wasn't done getting ready,
Speaker 12: like I know what I gotta do, Like I know
Speaker 12: I got a lotion up or baby whatever, baby oil,
Speaker 12: and like he apologized whatever, and we ended up just yeah,
Speaker 12: and it was and the scene was good.
Speaker 11: It was a good scene. You would have never knew
Speaker 11: that I was crying before it.
Speaker 12: And we shoot after that and like he apologized and everything,
Speaker 12: and he is kind of an asshole.
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