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Speaker 1: On this episode of Newtsworld, I'm joined by members of

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Speaker 1: my Inner Circle Club for a fascinating conversation about a

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Speaker 1: wide range of issues and topics on their minds. We

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Speaker 1: hold these regular video conference calls so that we can

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Speaker 1: have an honest discussion about what is happening in America today.

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Speaker 1: I find it extraordinarily helpful to me personally in helping

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Speaker 1: think through the issues that are facing us. So I

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Speaker 1: hope you'll find this episode of Newts World informative. And

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Speaker 1: if you'd like to become a member of my Inner

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Speaker 1: Circle Club, please go to Newtsinnercircle dot com and sign

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Speaker 1: up for a one or two year membership. Today a

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Speaker 1: lot of things going on. I'm just going to share

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Speaker 1: with you some quick overviews. There is today no natural

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Speaker 1: which is important because it means that the Republicans are

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Speaker 1: and that's a big deal in the long run. The

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Speaker 1: Republicans who wake up every morning saying, I know I'm

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Speaker 1: going to vote no. I just don't know what the

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Speaker 1: it's also been hard as members decide just to leave.

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Speaker 1: I'm very surprised. I don't remember in my own experiences

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Speaker 1: And then the big surprise to me was the chairman,

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Speaker 1: It's a very Republican district. We would win the special election.

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Speaker 1: And what Congressman Gallagher's scheduling decision means is that literally

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Speaker 1: So he's depriving the Republicans of one of their reliable

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Speaker 1: and I have to say I've spent the last five

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Speaker 1: On the other hand, I'll tell you the scale of

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Speaker 1: to plan another attack on Israel. They already said this publicly.

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Speaker 1: The war against Trump continues, and I think, once again

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Speaker 1: he's proven to be amazingly resourceful. Imagine this. He had

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Speaker 1: That's a very sweeping overview. Again, I want to thank

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Speaker 2: First, thank you again for having us, and thank you

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Speaker 2: for your wisdom. The question is, and it's been irritating

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Speaker 2: and undermining any traction new When you were a speaker,

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Speaker 2: wisdom that you imparted to our current speakers was incredibly helpful.

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Speaker 2: And unfortunately we have some little ankle biters that are

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Speaker 1: You went right to the heart of it. This is

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Speaker 1: First of all, I realized when Joe Gaylor and I

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Speaker 1: just be honest about that and say to people, look,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have a purely Republican House, and if

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Speaker 1: you'll help me get thirty or forty more seats, we'll

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Speaker 1: do it. But at the current margin, we're going to

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Speaker 1: That's sort of my overview. Is a great question, and

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Speaker 1: I really appreciate your involvement.

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Speaker 3: I would like your perspective on the problem that seems

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Speaker 3: and then continue to be obligated to them by sending

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Speaker 3: and their families back in their native country. What do

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Speaker 3: you see an administration and the.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I think we have to recognize that

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Speaker 1: Biden policy of favoring mass of illegal immigration, basically an invasion,

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Speaker 1: about forty percent of all the new jobs have been

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Speaker 5: The next question comes from d and Idaho. Signatures are

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Speaker 5: being collected to put an open primary with ranked choice

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Speaker 5: voting bill on the November ballot. I've noticed this is

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Speaker 5: being implemented in other states. Can you share your thoughts

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Speaker 5: on this approach? To a primary. It's pros and cons

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Speaker 5: Is it giving advantages to one party over another? Thank you.

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Speaker 1: What it primarily does is it weekends the strength of

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Speaker 1: ranked choice primary, if nobody gets fifty percent in the

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Speaker 1: first round, you redistribute the votes, so you vote for

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Speaker 1: number one, two, three, four over many candidates there are,

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Speaker 1: and the bias is away from conservatives and liberals towards

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Speaker 1: the center. It's being tried in Alaska and in Maine.

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Speaker 1: I think it's very dangerous, and I think that it,

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Speaker 1: in the long run, leads to a very complicated voting system.

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Speaker 1: And I think that I would personally hope that it

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Speaker 1: doesn't become the national model.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I have two questions. First of all, in reference

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Speaker 4: to your comments earlier, the tiered resignations of Republican congressman

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Speaker 4: like Ken Buck and Mike Gallagher split. The timing of

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Speaker 4: Gallagher's resignation, which makes it impossible to get another Republican

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Speaker 4: to a seat before January two or two five, suggests

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Speaker 4: there is a plan a foot to strip the Republicans

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Speaker 4: in the House of their majority by way of more resignations,

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Speaker 4: and in that scenario, HOCKEM. Jefferies would then be in

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Speaker 4: a position to not certify Trump's elections, which he's already

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Speaker 4: promised that he would do. Do you put much credence

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Speaker 4: to this.

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Speaker 1: Well, not necessarily, because it'll be a new Congress, and

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Speaker 1: I think if Trump wins the general election, he will

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Speaker 1: almost certainly carry in a Republican majority because Trump turns

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Speaker 1: out a lot of voters who don't normally vote. What

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Speaker 1: you're living through is a profound political revolution in which

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Speaker 1: the Democrats, who under Franklin Delano Roosevelt in the New Deal,

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Speaker 1: had become the party of working Americans versus the party

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Speaker 1: of the rich, the Republicans. That's actually an enormous transition

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Speaker 1: now with people who are high school or say one

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Speaker 1: year of college education are overwhelmingly moving to the Republican Party,

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Speaker 1: and people who have graduate degrees are overwhelmingly moving to

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. So it's a very profound realignment, and

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Speaker 1: they are actually getting what used to be a Republican pattern.

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Speaker 1: In the old days, Republicans tended to vote more than Democrats,

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Speaker 1: and so in off your elections and special elections, the

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Speaker 1: Republicans had an advantage which they lost in presidential elections,

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Speaker 1: when you get really big turnouts, Well, what's happening is

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Speaker 1: when Trump's on the ticket, you get a much bigger

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Speaker 1: turnout than when he's not, and that's because he is

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Speaker 1: attracting all of these folks who historically were not Republicans.

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Speaker 1: So I start with the idea that the next Congress,

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Speaker 1: if Trump does win, he will almost certainly carry in

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Speaker 1: a Senate and a House that are a Republican and

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Speaker 1: so Hakim Jeffries would go back to being the minority leader.

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Speaker 1: The greater short term danger is that if the Republicans

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Speaker 1: lose their majority, that Hakim Jeffries will immediately close down

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Speaker 1: every investigation, the investigation of the border and homeland security,

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Speaker 1: the investigation into the Biden family corruption, the investigation into

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Speaker 1: the FBI. All of these things would be stopped if

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Speaker 1: Hakim Jeffries became the leader and the Democrats took over.

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Speaker 1: So that's the big short term problem. But I think

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Speaker 1: in the long run, if Trump wins the significant majority,

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Speaker 1: he's going to carry in a Republican House and a

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Speaker 1: Republican Senate, and that'll set the stage. We're a very

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Speaker 1: tumultuous twenty twenty five because the left isn't just going

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Speaker 1: to roll over and play dead. They're not going to say,

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Speaker 1: oh gee, I guess we lost the election. Just the opposite.

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Speaker 1: As Scott Rasmussen has pointed out, they will bitterly fight

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Speaker 1: to stop the Conservatives from shaping government. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's a much bigger challenge.

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Speaker 7: The question I have is why can't we pass a

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Speaker 7: constitutional amendment on naturalization? So I think that would take

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Speaker 7: the wind out of the sales of what they're doing

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Speaker 7: with the migrants. So that would have three parts. The

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Speaker 7: first part would be you have to be naturalized or

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Speaker 7: birth citizen in the United States. The second thing is

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Speaker 7: to limit the amount of people who are naturalized every

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Speaker 7: year to the percentage of what Obama had, which is

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Speaker 7: one quarter of one percent. And the third thing is

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Speaker 7: to change the census so that non citizens would not

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Speaker 7: be counted for purpose of basically allocation of seats and

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Speaker 7: so forth. What do you think about that.

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Speaker 1: I agree with all three principles. I think all three

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Speaker 1: can actually be accomplished by law and don't require an

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Speaker 1: amendment unless the Supreme Court ruled that the census had

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Speaker 1: to include inhabitants and not just citizens, in which case

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Speaker 1: you would then have to overrule them with a constitutional amendment.

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Speaker 1: I agree with the principle. I think one of the

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Speaker 1: reasons that the left is so eager to have millions

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Speaker 1: of illegal immigrants is that they're going to the big cities,

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Speaker 1: and their hope is that in the next census that

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Speaker 1: they will give these cities more representation. As you know, California, Illinois,

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Speaker 1: New York are all losing population, and that population is

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Speaker 1: migrating towards Georgia, North Carolina, Florida, and Texas, and so

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Speaker 1: you're seeing a really profound shift, all of it to

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Speaker 1: the advantage of the Republicans and the disadvantage of the Democrats.

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Speaker 1: And I think a lot of Democrats see illegal immigration

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Speaker 1: as the counter force that will keep them in power.

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Speaker 1: My hunch is it won't. And as I've said earlier,

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Speaker 1: I'm in favor of finding a way to repatriate. I

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Speaker 1: think if you're here illegally, it's illegal, and that we

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Speaker 1: have a right to say that we're very much for

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Speaker 1: legal immigration, but we're very much against illegal immigration. And closing,

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