1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:01,720 Speaker 1: Taking a Walk. 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 2: Welcome to Taking a Walk on Buzz Night, and we're 3 00:00:04,200 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: continuing our fresh Start theme week here in January, celebrating 4 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 2: artists who have reimagined their past and discovered new creative horizons. 5 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: Charles Kelly knows one thing or two about fresh starts. 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 2: As one third of Lady A, he helped create some 7 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 2: of country music's. 8 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 3: Most iconic hits. 9 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 2: But sometimes the biggest risk and artists can take stepping 10 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: out on their own. Charles did exactly that, embarking on 11 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 2: a solo journey that allowed him to explore different sounds, 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 2: dig deeper into his songwriting, and discover parts of himself 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: that might have stayed hidden in a group dynamic. A 14 00:00:37,720 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 2: fresh start doesn't mean leaving the past behind. It means 15 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 2: building on everything that you've learned and daring to see 16 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: what else is possible. In this conversation, Charles opens up 17 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 2: about that pivotal moment when he decided to take the leap, 18 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 2: the creative freedom he found, and how stepping outside his 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: comfort zone ultimately made him a better artist. If you're 20 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: thinking about your own fresh start this new year, whether 21 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 2: it's a career move, a creative pivot, or simply trying 22 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 2: something that scares you a little. Charles Kelly's story will 23 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 2: inspire you. We'll talk with Charles Kelly next. I'm taking 24 00:01:12,840 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 2: a walk, Taking a. 25 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:20,360 Speaker 3: Walk, Charles Kelly. Welcome to taking a walk, my friend. 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: Hey, how are we doing? 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: Oh? 28 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 3: Doing great? Doing great? Thank you for being here. So, 29 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 3: since we call this podcast taking a walk, if you 30 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 3: could take a walk with someone living or dead, doesn't 31 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 3: have to be musical, but it could be someone involved 32 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 3: with music. Who would you take a walk with? Then? 33 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 3: Where would you take that? Saunter? 34 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, Paul McCartney for sure. Yeah, there he is 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,560 Speaker 5: right there, there he is. Yeah, this is a kind. 36 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 4: Of a walk. 37 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 5: I've got a bunch of different influences up here, and 38 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 5: all kinds of different genres of artists, but hugely influenced 39 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 5: by but just everything but Beatles. 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 4: I think. 41 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 5: I think Paul McCartney and you know, one of the 42 00:02:04,120 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 5: best songwriters of all time, and he's just one of 43 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 5: those guys I still haven't, you know, haven't gotten to meet. 44 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: I've been lucky enough to meet Bruce Springsteen. 45 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 5: We got to do a show opening up for Bruce 46 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 5: in London actually at Hyde Park a long time ago. 47 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 5: That was pretty cool. Funny story about that. We had, 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:26,800 Speaker 5: like you know, any time in between songs, you know, 49 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 5: these are die hard Bruce Springsteen fans and you know 50 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 5: they're like Bruce between I remember. 51 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 4: Hillary goes, were they booing us? 52 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 5: And was like, no, they're saying Bruce, like, don't take 53 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 5: it like they're diehard fans, Like they're they're ready for 54 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 5: us to sing. 55 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: Need you now and get off the stage or Bruce 56 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 4: can come up here? 57 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 3: Where would you go with Paul for that walk do 58 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 3: you know? 59 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, somewhere you know, I would love to 60 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 5: like just you know, walk through like I don't know, 61 00:02:56,600 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 5: maybe maybe Abbey Road, the studios, you know, or something 62 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 5: like that and just hear some of those stories. But 63 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 5: I don't know anywhere really, I mean it just just 64 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:09,160 Speaker 5: to be able to just have a moment with him 65 00:03:09,320 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 5: would be would be pretty amazing. You know what that 66 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 5: was My first tattoo was was a lyric from Blackbird. 67 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 5: All your life, you were only waiting for this moment 68 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 5: to arise. 69 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were reading my questions. I was going to 70 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 3: ask you about that and why do those words resonate 71 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 3: with you to this day? 72 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,359 Speaker 4: I basically got this this tattoo. 73 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,400 Speaker 5: To me, it means it was around the time that 74 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 5: I felt like my whole life was leading up to 75 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 5: this band and leading up to this chase, you know, 76 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 5: of being a musician, and you know, I felt like 77 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 5: all my life I was only waiting for this moment 78 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 5: to like have a chance to like follow my dream, 79 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: you know. And so that's that was my first tattoo. 80 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 5: And then I had another one about a year later, 81 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 5: and then I didn't get another one for like five 82 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 5: or six years, and then all of a sudden, I 83 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 5: kind of went crazy, which. 84 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 4: Is all over me now. 85 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 3: Expression exactly the artistic expression. We're going to talk about 86 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: songs for a New Moon. Congratulations on your new solo album. 87 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 3: But I want to go back to Augusta, Georgia. As 88 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 3: the youngest of three brothers, well musically inclined, what was 89 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 3: it like being in the Kelly household? It was it 90 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,440 Speaker 3: always filled with music. 91 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 4: It was chaos, Yeah, it was. I had so I 92 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 4: have two my. 93 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 5: Oldest siblings, my sister Christy and John were ten years 94 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 5: older than me, and then Josh and I, you know, 95 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:42,039 Speaker 5: we're ten years younger, about the same age, and so 96 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 5: we always had like so many different styles of music 97 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 5: coming in and out. My mom loved R and B, 98 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 5: my dad loved country, and then you know, my oldest 99 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 5: siblings would bring home whatever was happening, you know. So 100 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 5: it could have been Dave Matthews band, it could have 101 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 5: been Nirvana, it could have been just anything, you know. 102 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 5: I mean it was like I got. I remember my 103 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 5: oldest brother was obsessed with like led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath. 104 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,039 Speaker 5: So I like I had this mix of like, you know, 105 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 5: listening to Delilah and Richard Mars in the car with 106 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 5: my mom, to Garth Brooks with my dad, to you know, 107 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 5: Ozzy Osbourne with my oldest brother, and so it was 108 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 5: like this weird kind of like I just gravitated to 109 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 5: whatever I felt great. 110 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 4: You know, and felt right. 111 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 5: And so I do remember though in my room, so 112 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 5: like when my oldest siblings moved out, you know, I 113 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 5: ended up getting like, you know, we had like the 114 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 5: whole upstairs to ourselves, and I remember my brother and 115 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 5: I dragging out this old record player. It was a 116 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 5: piece of furniture you know that you would that you 117 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 5: lift up the top and there's the record player in there, 118 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 5: and being I was highly intrigued by it. And so 119 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 5: I dug around found all these records. I remember, lo 120 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 5: and behold, I found the Fleetwood Mac Rumers record, and 121 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 5: so we've got Stevie back there. But that was the 122 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 5: first actual like vinyl. I think I was probably nine 123 00:06:00,120 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 5: ten years old, and I remember just sitting in my 124 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,240 Speaker 5: room like playing it over and over again. I mean, 125 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,800 Speaker 5: it had such an effect, like no one told me 126 00:06:08,839 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 5: to play it. I just was like, out of all 127 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,960 Speaker 5: these records, I was like, this is the one. This 128 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:15,599 Speaker 5: is the one that's like blowing my mind. So, you know, 129 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,040 Speaker 5: there's a lot of those Fleewood Mac influences in the band, 130 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 5: and even on this record, there's a song called kiss 131 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:24,279 Speaker 5: this Thing Abye that is so reminiscent of a Fleewood 132 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 5: Mac you know kind of bas of music down there. 133 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 4: You know a lot of those. 134 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 5: Just great pulsating bass crews and stuff, you know that 135 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 5: they were so known for. 136 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:39,839 Speaker 3: And I think musical diversity really is an amazing part 137 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 3: of the creative process for you. It really it feels 138 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 3: that way. It just feels, you know, the rich experiences 139 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 3: really play out in your music. 140 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 5: It always has been, I mean, I think with the 141 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 5: band and especially you know, as a solo artist. I 142 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,600 Speaker 5: mean I think I think you can't help but be influences, 143 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 5: influenced by everything. Actually, you know, as we keep moving 144 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 5: on in music, I feel like, you know, the genre 145 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,280 Speaker 5: border is is wide open and and and I think 146 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 5: that's because, you know, it's not like we grow up 147 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 5: with one station in our town that we listen to. 148 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 5: You know, we kind of grew up with everything, and 149 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,239 Speaker 5: especially this generation now, I mean, they're they're just putting 150 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 5: together a little playlist, you know, they're they're listening to 151 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,040 Speaker 5: Drake and then turn around listening to Morgan Wallen and 152 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 5: turn around listening to Taylor Swift. You know, so it's everything. 153 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 5: And I think that's what's so cool about where we are. 154 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 5: And I hope it pushes you know, the sound of 155 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 5: music because too, I mean, you know, there's there's only 156 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 5: so many chords and so you know, we're all trying 157 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 5: to find something that feels fresh. And for me, you know, 158 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 5: with this project, I wanted it to feel very throwback 159 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 5: and nostalgic, but still have a fresh, you know, current 160 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 5: energy to it. And so it was fun kind of 161 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 5: you know, kind of towing that line about about how 162 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 5: much you know, because I never wanted the music to 163 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 5: feel like a character of the age, you know. I 164 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 5: didn't want it to be like, Okay, he's just throwing 165 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 5: together these you know, this wild you know, throwback, poking 166 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 5: fun at thing, you know, and and it's it's not 167 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 5: it really truly is a celebration in a nod at 168 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 5: all my heroes. 169 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 3: You know, you and your your bros. You formed Inside 170 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 3: Blue as as teens, and you caught the attention of 171 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 3: the one and only James Brown. 172 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 5: Yeah, well at least his manager. Yeah, it was pretty cool, 173 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 5: uh that time. I remember our parents kind of we're 174 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 5: a little hesitant of us signing any deals that early, 175 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 5: but but it was cool to even have that opportunity. 176 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 5: It's funny you did your research. My it's so funny 177 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 5: that whole time when by so fast. I barely remember 178 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 5: it because we had a band, you know, all through 179 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 5: like middle school and high school and and you know, 180 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 5: we had a little little tiny bit of buzz going, 181 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 5: but you know, nothing really ended up coming up that 182 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 5: and I put music down all through college and everything. 183 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 5: And and my brother Josh got a record deal out 184 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 5: of college and eventually moved to Nashville. 185 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 4: And he's the reason I gave this a shot. 186 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 5: I moved to Nashville, you know, with with a ton 187 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 5: of encouragement from him, and and you know, it was 188 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 5: lucky enough to run into Hillary and and you know, 189 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:23,760 Speaker 5: taught my buddy David to move in town. 190 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 4: We started this band. 191 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 5: But but yeah, those early years it was pretty cool. 192 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 5: I mean, we had this little five song EP, and 193 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 5: you know, it was inside Blue because we did it 194 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 5: a little little bit of blues. 195 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: We also, you know, it was very much you know, 196 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 4: rock and roll. 197 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 5: Stuff too, and so it was it was just it's 198 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 5: funny that anybody was interested, because if you go back 199 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 5: and listen to those songs, they were they were pretty weak. 200 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 4: They must have seen something in us. 201 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 3: I guarantee they did. And look, everything starts as a 202 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,240 Speaker 3: as a germ, and then of an idea, and then 203 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: it evolves and the passion flows. So give yourself more 204 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:02,680 Speaker 3: credit back for any side blue for sure. 205 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: Now. 206 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 3: I have a friend that does this other podcast called 207 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 3: Celebrity job Or, and he asked the question, if you 208 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 3: weren't going to be a musician, what would you have been. 209 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 3: Did you have a Plan B or were you a 210 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 3: no Plan B? Guy? 211 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 4: No, I did, I mean I went to the University 212 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 4: of Georgia. I to me, music was was just going 213 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 4: to be something in my life and maybe a party trick. 214 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 4: You know. 215 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 5: I always kind of assumed I would have some you know, 216 00:10:27,880 --> 00:10:30,200 Speaker 5: like cover band on the weekends I would play with. 217 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 5: But I studied finance at Georgia and David I did too, 218 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,360 Speaker 5: Dave as well. And yeah, you know, I was going 219 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 5: to try to move to Atlanta, get a job, you know, 220 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 5: do that whole thing. And then you know, maybe if 221 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 5: I went went to a wedding on the weekend, I'd 222 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 5: hop up with a band and say, hey, guys, you 223 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 5: know a little uh lone al Ritchie, you know, something 224 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 5: like that, and that would be kind of my party trick. 225 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 5: But but so, yeah, something in the business world, hopefully. 226 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 4: But I will say. 227 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 5: When I had graduated, I worked with my oldest brother 228 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,920 Speaker 5: and and we were he was he flipped houses and 229 00:11:00,920 --> 00:11:03,960 Speaker 5: did some comercial real estate. So I had this degree 230 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 5: and I remember like literally a week after I graduate, 231 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: I go into work and and you know, he's like, well, 232 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 5: one of our workers didn't come in today, so you 233 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 5: gotta you gotta hop into the dump truck and take 234 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 5: this take this stuff to the dump. 235 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 4: And I just remember going like, this is not what 236 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 4: I thought it was going to be. 237 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 3: Somehow you knew it triggered you exactly was that and 238 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,199 Speaker 3: it was a motivating trigger. 239 00:11:31,480 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 4: It was, it was. 240 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 5: I mean, I I think I could have found happiness 241 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,079 Speaker 5: in anything. I mean, to me, I love I love 242 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 5: putting in a hard day's work. I mean, that's just 243 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 5: I really do. I mean, even to this day, there's 244 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 5: something I just love about, you know, about working hard. 245 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: I learned that from my dad. 246 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 5: And but to be able to find something though that 247 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 5: you actually would, you know, wake up and just feel 248 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 5: like so lucky that you get to do. And you 249 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,080 Speaker 5: know a lot of times, especially being you know, on 250 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 5: stage and writing songs, it doesn't feel like work. The 251 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 5: work comes in when with the travel. I feel like 252 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 5: that's where that's where we are in the word, you know, 253 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:07,960 Speaker 5: we work for a. 254 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 4: Living, But the rest of it, that's just all that's 255 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 4: all fun. 256 00:12:11,200 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 3: All right. So I do want to dig into the 257 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: process for songs for a New Moon and the work 258 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 3: behind that process. And I guess the first thing when 259 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 3: I think of writing sessions is that the type of 260 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 3: thing when you're in that process that your nervous enthusiasm 261 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 3: in a good way keeps you up at night because 262 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 3: you know the next morning you're waking up and you're 263 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 3: going into a session exactly. 264 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 5: I mean, I call it a lot of you know, 265 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 5: I had a lot of cautious optimism. I've been doing 266 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 5: this for you know, close to two decades now, and 267 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:52,440 Speaker 5: I know it's just you know, you get so you 268 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 5: get so caught up and Okay, I want to make 269 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 5: something special that sometimes you have to just step back 270 00:12:57,440 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 5: and just do it. 271 00:12:58,280 --> 00:12:59,199 Speaker 4: I feel like it's just. 272 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 5: Literally go in and if it's moving you, there's a 273 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 5: good chance that can move other people. I think any 274 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 5: time in the past when I've tried to go in 275 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 5: there and be like, all right, we got to write 276 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 5: a hit like this or whatever. And so I really 277 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 5: try to get out of my own way, honestly, and 278 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 5: I think to be able to start writing music under 279 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 5: a different betup music brought out something different in me 280 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 5: and it was the most fun I've ever had. I mean, 281 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: I was writing with you know, guys like Josh here 282 00:13:25,280 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 5: who wrote Needs You Now with. I mean, he's one 283 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 5: of the best songwriters in talent. He You know, when 284 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 5: you got a guy like that. 285 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 4: Saying when are we doing this again? 286 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 5: This is so fresh because I think everybody needed to 287 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 5: be pulled out of their box a little bit, you know, 288 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 5: and this project allowed them to kind of show how 289 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 5: versatile they all are. And and for me too, it 290 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,400 Speaker 5: brought out just this new sense of like, Okay, there's 291 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 5: no rules, you know, I don't have to make a 292 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 5: country record. I can go out here and try to 293 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 5: do something different and fresh. Because, like you said, I 294 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 5: am influenced by so many different styles, but I think 295 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 5: the common thread needed to be I needed to still 296 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:05,080 Speaker 5: sound authentically myself, you know. I didn't try to put 297 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 5: on some you know eighties voice that didn't sound like 298 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:12,880 Speaker 5: me or you know, whatever whatever that might be. You know, 299 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 5: it still is my voice to the core. And I 300 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 5: don't know there was there was just. 301 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: I don't know this like cool little hint of like, man, I. 302 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 5: Think we're onto something here, you know, and I don't 303 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 5: know where it'll go and what it'll be. And there 304 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 5: was a sense of wanting to make sure we stayed 305 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 5: precious with like staying there. And I think that's one 306 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 5: reason I wanted to release it myself and like pay 307 00:14:39,800 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 5: for it myself, because I was like I know exactly 308 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 5: what's going to happen when I take this into the label. 309 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 5: They're gonna go, Okay, you've been known as a country artist. 310 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 5: We gotta throw some mandolin on this, we gotta throw 311 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 5: some steel guitar. And it just it didn't feel like 312 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 5: the music needed that. And so I really have to 313 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 5: give a lot of praise to to Big Machine for 314 00:14:58,080 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 5: allowing me to just do this on my own well, 315 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 5: you know, I mean, I really just felt like I 316 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 5: wanted this to be, you know, a success or failure 317 00:15:09,080 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 5: on my own terms, if that, If that makes sense, 318 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 5: you know, we'll be. 319 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Right back with more of the Taking a Walk Podcast. 320 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Taking a Walk Podcast. 321 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 3: So take us through some of your favorite tracks or 322 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:28,960 Speaker 3: all of your favorite tracks. We got time. 323 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: Charles, Ah God, I think, I mean the first song, 324 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: Can't Lose You is what really kicked off the project. 325 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 5: I mean, there's something about that song. I think it 326 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,200 Speaker 5: encompassed everything I wanted to say as well. I you know, 327 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 5: I'm getting close to it. At the end of this month, 328 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 5: I'll be three years sober. And so it was just 329 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 5: a lot of growth, you know, spiritually, mentally and you know, 330 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 5: with my relationship with my wife, and I wanted to 331 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 5: put that into the music, you know, and I wanted 332 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 5: to be it to be a joyful record, you know, 333 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 5: and feel really redemptive and positive. And so I feel 334 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 5: like that song encompassed kind of everything I was going for, 335 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 5: and then from there it was like once we had 336 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,040 Speaker 5: that song, the rest just kind of really came out 337 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 5: really easily. I mean, I think one of my favorites 338 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:20,040 Speaker 5: is a song called Can't Be Alone Tonight. There's just 339 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 5: something about it that it reminds me of all those 340 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 5: great eighties like ballads that just feel great. There's also 341 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 5: a song called never Let You Go, and we got 342 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 5: the great Dan Huff, so he's also a great producer. 343 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 5: But he used to play electric guitar on all those 344 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,479 Speaker 5: massive eighties and nineties hits. 345 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 4: That you've almost anything you've ever heard of. 346 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 5: He's played with Michael Jackson, Journey, I mean, all these 347 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 5: crazy bands you know, in the studio, and to have him. 348 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 5: If you listen to that song, I think it's the 349 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 5: tenth track off the record, there's just this epic electric 350 00:16:57,040 --> 00:17:01,640 Speaker 5: guitar tone and solo section that has that just I 351 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 5: don't know, there's something about it where I was like, 352 00:17:03,400 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 5: that's what I was going for. It has a key change, 353 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 5: has the electric guitar sound that only Dan could do. 354 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 5: So there's a lot of those moments throughout the record. 355 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 5: But but I will say it changes which my you know, 356 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 5: which one is my favorite. 357 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:19,359 Speaker 3: I would expect it would, right because if a while 358 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 3: you're you're living with it for so long and in 359 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 3: your mind you're going through the hard work that led 360 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 3: up to the creation. So when you're in the studio 361 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 3: and working on this and then you leave for the day, 362 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 3: do you leave with tracks that you can listen to 363 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:41,120 Speaker 3: as you're driving driving home to kind of like think. 364 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 5: About it, dude, and that that makes it exciting, you know. 365 00:17:44,280 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 5: That's the great thing about you know, this whole record. 366 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 5: I worked with Lindsay Rahims and another guy named Sam 367 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 5: Ellis and you know, being able to actually you know, 368 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 5: they programmed most of this stuff. So what we would 369 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 5: do is we'd have pretty fully fleshed out professional sound 370 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,720 Speaker 5: named demo, and then you know, we would go and 371 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 5: harvest out. We had like a drum day where we 372 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:07,720 Speaker 5: went this guy Aaron Stirling and then lay real drums 373 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 5: on it, or we go, you know, lay bass. If 374 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,159 Speaker 5: we didn't like the way that that one of them 375 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 5: played the bass. You know, we had a saxophone player 376 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 5: come in or something like that. But we when we 377 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 5: would leave each day, we would have a pretty solid 378 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 5: foundation and feel for. 379 00:18:23,359 --> 00:18:24,200 Speaker 4: What we were going for. 380 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: And then when you walk in the next day, then 381 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 3: you've got like the ability to know what you want 382 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 3: to tweak, right. 383 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, So we would leave there, we would have pretty 384 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 5: much a you know, a full form of a song, 385 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:40,479 Speaker 5: and we were even able to, like sometimes we come 386 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 5: back in tweak lyrics. If we got to live with him, 387 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 5: we're like, Okay, I don't like the way this hook 388 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 5: is turning and flipping. But you know, that's the difference 389 00:18:47,640 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 5: I will say in how a lot of a lot 390 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 5: of people right now than we did when I first started. 391 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 5: You know, we used to go in there with an 392 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 5: acoustic guitar. It sometimes you couldn't quite tell what it 393 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 5: was going to be. 394 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 4: I mean, need You Now was one of those examples. 395 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 5: I remember we had this little acoustic, really rough sounding 396 00:19:04,840 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 5: recording off of our computer, and you know, we almost 397 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 5: didn't cut the song because it didn't sound as. 398 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,440 Speaker 4: Big as like the other demos we had. 399 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 5: And so you know, to be able to, like now 400 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 5: really get an idea of how the song is going 401 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 5: to sound when you leave. It's a big you know, 402 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 5: it's just such a nice advantage to the writing process. 403 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 3: Charles, What is recovery taught you that kind of leads 404 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 3: into your musical process? 405 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:35,120 Speaker 4: Oh? 406 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 5: Man, I think gratitude more than anything, I think, you know, 407 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,040 Speaker 5: I think I was hold on to a lot of fear, 408 00:19:41,320 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 5: you know, fear of. 409 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 4: A lot of stuff. 410 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 5: I mean, fear of losing success, fear of, like of 411 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 5: so many things I didn't even know that I was 412 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 5: kind of fearful of, you know, and you kind of 413 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 5: drink to kind of calm all that down. But I 414 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,760 Speaker 5: just think it brought a sense of gratitude of like 415 00:19:57,920 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 5: where what I have and how much you know, I 416 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,160 Speaker 5: don't I don't want to lose this, and how much 417 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 5: I just love it. And I think it also just 418 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 5: made me enjoy the quiet moments of life. 419 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 4: You know. 420 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 5: I'm into so many different things. I mean, A small 421 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 5: thing that I just love now that I used to 422 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:15,840 Speaker 5: never do is read. I mean, I've probably read a 423 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 5: hundred books since I've you know, gotten sober, and like, 424 00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 5: I feel like my mind's expanding a little bit. I 425 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 5: feel like I'm calming down and I'm just I'm realizing 426 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 5: that some of the best things happened to when you 427 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 5: get out of your own way, and you know, I 428 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 5: feel like I really tried to do that with this record, 429 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 5: and like, I don't know, I'm just kind of. 430 00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 4: Really just enjoying enjoying the journey of it. 431 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 5: I mean, all the ups and downs are such a 432 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 5: big part of what makes life kind of fun, you know, 433 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 5: and celebrating. 434 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 4: The little winds that come along. 435 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 5: And but really, I just I think it gave me 436 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: a little bit more of a purpose to life and 437 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 5: what I was going for. I used to live and 438 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 5: die by the music business and successes and failures, and 439 00:20:55,920 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 5: now I just I realized that, like it, it's not 440 00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,639 Speaker 5: the end all be all, you know, and it should 441 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,160 Speaker 5: be fun. And I feel like I'm enjoying it again 442 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 5: in a way that I kind of did when I 443 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:09,840 Speaker 5: first started, because I think when you don't know what's 444 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 5: going to happen, you just you do celebrate any tiny 445 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 5: little win that you get, and once you've had success, 446 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,639 Speaker 5: well then you have a bar of that what you 447 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 5: think everything should reach for. It to be quote unquote 448 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 5: a success, and you know, especially with all that need 449 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 5: you now, it's like, well, that's going to come along 450 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 5: once in a lifetime. 451 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 4: Like so if that's my bar, I'm never going to 452 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 4: be happy, you know very well. 453 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 3: Put, do you get nervous before you're presenting to I 454 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 3: don't know, like a scop worshitto or something like that. 455 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: Always, I mean always you're a little nervous. 456 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 5: I mean, I think there's nothing more heartbreaking sometimes for 457 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 5: an artist when you play something for your management or 458 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 5: label or friends even uh. 459 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,480 Speaker 4: And they're just like, yeah, that's nice, I like that, 460 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 4: And you're like, shoot, that was not the expectation. It 461 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 4: was not the response I want to. 462 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 5: But but I just again just you know, I think 463 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 5: for this, I just knew I was digging it so 464 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,440 Speaker 5: much and I was enjoying it that I was like, 465 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,200 Speaker 5: no matter what anybody says, like, I've got to do this, 466 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 5: and I don't know just for everybody or on my 467 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 5: team to kind of follow me down this journey. 468 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 4: But I got a lot of encouragement, I mean early, 469 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 4: right from the get go. 470 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:24,120 Speaker 5: Like when when you know my team heard Can't Lose 471 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 5: You and another song called Run, they were like this whatever, 472 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 5: this is keep doing it, And so I did get 473 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 5: a whole lot of encouragement. My wife was really big 474 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 5: with that too, just cope, saying like this is you're 475 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,880 Speaker 5: onto something. Just keep going down this road, don't put 476 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 5: a timeline on it, and see where it goes. 477 00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 4: You know. 478 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 3: So a new album, growing family, fresh outfit. What are 479 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 3: you most excited about as far as the next chapter? 480 00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 4: Oh gosh, I just it just it's fun to see 481 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 4: people respond to something in a fresh way. 482 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: You know. 483 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,720 Speaker 5: I think that's what makes putting this out solo kind 484 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 5: of fun too, because I am a new artist in 485 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:04,399 Speaker 5: a way, you know. I mean I put a solo 486 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 5: record out, you know, about eight or nine years ago, 487 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,960 Speaker 5: but you know it's still a fresh introduction, uh, in 488 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 5: a new sound. And so there's there's, you know, a 489 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 5: certain vulnerability and like healthy kind of anxiety about what's 490 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 5: what it's going to do. And I think that actually 491 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 5: makes it kind of fun. I'm allowed to fail. It's okay, 492 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 5: it's it's it's a little more scary when Lady A fails, 493 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 5: you know, a project comes out fails, But when I fail, 494 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 5: it's like, okay, cool, it was something fun anyway, So 495 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 5: you know, I can always kind of play it off 496 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 5: that uh that, you know, I didn't. I didn't care 497 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 5: if it went obviously I do. I think any artist 498 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 5: wants it to be heard. I mean, you know, I'm 499 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 5: not looking for this to be some giant, you know, 500 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 5: Sabrina Carpenter global smash. But I tell you, if it 501 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 5: could reach reach a really great audience and I was 502 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 5: able to actually go out and do some shows, you know, 503 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:58,960 Speaker 5: and have a have a you know, have a have 504 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 5: a packed house somewhere, and be able to actually perform 505 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 5: these songs, I think that's what gets me the most excited, 506 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 5: because it's such a fun bed of music that even 507 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 5: when I was just rehearsing with the guys, you know, 508 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 5: we did some content of just kind of a live 509 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 5: show of some of these songs that we're gonna, you know, 510 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 5: share online, I couldn't stop dancing. I was like, I've 511 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,879 Speaker 5: never like moved like this, and I'm sure I look ridiculous, 512 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 5: but I can't help myself. I was like, I can't 513 00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:30,119 Speaker 5: help but move when I sing this music. So I 514 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 5: think it would just be a very joyful show, you know. 515 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:36,000 Speaker 5: So I'm hoping that can can come about at some. 516 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 3: Point on closing, if you could go back and give 517 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,880 Speaker 3: advice to your younger self, maybe that fourteen year old 518 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 3: writing songs with with Dave, what would you say. 519 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 5: Oh gosh, well, first off, I'd say, learn how to 520 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 5: play piano. That you know that was That's one thing. 521 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 5: If I could go to Eddie young kid and be like, 522 00:24:58,320 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 5: learn how to play piano. I can play guitar, I 523 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 5: used to. I grew up playing drums. That was my 524 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 5: instrument in the band. I played drums and sing. But 525 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 5: I wish I could have played I wish I could 526 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 5: play piano. I feel like I would. I would have 527 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 5: written a heck of a lot more songs, you. 528 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 4: Know, if I was able to do that. 529 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 5: But I think the advice would just be just enjoy 530 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 5: the journey. I mean, I think at the beginning, you know, 531 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,040 Speaker 5: the first ten years, it was so much fun, and 532 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 5: in the middle of that career it kind of got 533 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,560 Speaker 5: where I was not enjoying it, and I think you 534 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,639 Speaker 5: have to love it, you have to enjoy it, and 535 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 5: you have to just, I don't know, sometimes just remind 536 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 5: yourself that you get to do what you love to do. 537 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 5: So I think that would be the thing I would 538 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 5: love to have told myself early on well also too 539 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,920 Speaker 5: just you never know where life's going to go. I mean, 540 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 5: my fourteen year old self would have never dreamed I 541 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 5: was actually going to do this for a living, you know. 542 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 3: Charles, this is why I love what I do. I'm 543 00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:57,199 Speaker 3: so grateful for the opportunity to talk to you. Congratulations 544 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 3: on this chapter songs for a New Moon, and thanks 545 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: for all the great music you continue to give us, 546 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: my friend. 547 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 4: Thank you, Boss, Appreciate you, buddy. 548 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to this episode of the Taking a 549 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 1: Walk podcast. 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