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That's t h E 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: s h u box dot com slash b LP Live. 13 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 2: We'd love to see you there. Hi. 14 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: I'm Laura Vanderkamp. I'm a mother of five, an author, journalist, 15 00:00:49,040 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: and speaker. 16 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:54,320 Speaker 3: And I'm Sarah hart Unger, a mother of three, practicing physician, writer, 17 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 3: and course creator. We are two working parents who love 18 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 3: our careers and our families. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: Welcome to best of both worlds. Here we talk about 20 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: how real women manage work, family, and time for fun. 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 1: From figuring out childcare to mapping out long term career goals. 22 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: We want you to get the most out of life. 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,120 Speaker 2: Welcome the best of both worlds. This is Laura. 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: This episode is airing in mid March of twenty twenty four. 25 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:26,680 Speaker 1: Sarah and I are going to be sharing various fun 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: facts about ourselves. This was kind of prompted by a 27 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: list of two hundred icebreaker questions that we wound up 28 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: looking through. But we are here to gather in a 29 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: hotel room in Naples, So hello, Sarah sitting right next 30 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: to me. Hi. Okay, we'll go from there that we 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: need a little bit more of an icebreaker with that. Yeah, 32 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: So we occasionally meet up in person and try to 33 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: record a couple episodes and talk through the future of 34 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: the podcast. Always enjoy doing that, So that's what we're 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,240 Speaker 1: doing here. So we apologie is very slightly more echoey sound, 36 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: but hopefully being together is making. 37 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 2: Up for that. 38 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we always love them. We get to actually 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: record in person, it's just it's a different energy. It 40 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 3: feels really special, and we get to take a little 41 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 3: mini trip, which is fun as well awesome. 42 00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: So the first little fun fact that it turned out 43 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: Sarah and I can both do it turns out we 44 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: can both touch our noses with our tongues. If you 45 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: could see us now we could demonstrate, but you can't 46 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: really see us. 47 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 2: So I just did it. We just did it. 48 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:36,960 Speaker 3: Laura offered that as her first fun fact, and I 49 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 3: was like, well, me too, So it's sort of the 50 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 3: fun fact that you have to use sparingly. I once 51 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 3: use that as a fun fact in a situation where 52 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 3: I then realized shortly thereafter it was probably not the 53 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 3: right fun fact to because it just change. 54 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 2: The whole energy of the situation. 55 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: I all of a sudden, it goes from being something 56 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: else to be about You could do that, you can 57 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:57,400 Speaker 1: touch your I don't know. 58 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 2: I guess we just both have long light, the mood light, 59 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: the mood good way, a life good way. 60 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: Speaking of other things, Sarah, do you have a biggest 61 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: life regret? 62 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 3: Yes, my biggest life regret is not studying abroad, which 63 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 3: is actually a life regret I share with my husband. 64 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:16,519 Speaker 3: I believe he has said the same thing, so I 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 3: don't know if I copied it from him, but it's 66 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 3: so true. I made this dumb decision that I wanted 67 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 3: to be like what was kind of the Williams equivalent 68 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: of a resident advisor. And I swear the only reason 69 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 3: I wanted it is because it was like hard to. 70 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: Get Sarah's personality coming through. 71 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: And I remember like looking at these really cool study 72 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 3: of broad programs in Scandinavia and all sorts of cool places. 73 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 2: But I'm like, no, I'm going to do this. 74 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,320 Speaker 3: And I mean, maybe I was thinking about medical school 75 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: application or somehow thinking it would like look good, because 76 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 3: I was definitely very forward focused back then. But oh man, 77 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: I really feel like I missed such a cool opportunity 78 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: to experience living somewhere else. And I know I could 79 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: still do that now, but it's definitely harder. And my 80 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: secondary regret that goes right along with that is that 81 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: I took French in middle and high school instead of Spanish, 82 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:09,760 Speaker 3: and I could have combined both of those, taken Spanish, 83 00:04:09,800 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 3: become fluent in Spanish, studied broad in Spain, and then 84 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: I would have a skill that would be so useful 85 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 3: in my everyday life. So I continue to work on 86 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 3: my Spanish and I have made some progress. 87 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 2: But those are both regrets. Okay, I did, in fact 88 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 2: study abroad. 89 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: I studied in Australia because I was not very good 90 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: at any language per se. I studied French forever and 91 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: still cannot really say all that much in French, as 92 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: happens with many Americans. But I studied abroad in Australia, 93 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: which they turned out to speak English, so that's helpful. 94 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: I mean there are trade offs though, I mean because 95 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: so you know, the way in college are like leadership 96 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: roles for activities all went as you would start in 97 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 1: the middle of your junior year and go to the 98 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: first half of your senior year for like the top 99 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: leadership roles for everything. So I couldn't do that because 100 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 1: I went my spring junior year, So I missed out 101 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: on being like a top leader in any the organizations 102 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: that I was in because of that. So there were 103 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: trade offs, but you know, it was also really fun. 104 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,800 Speaker 1: I regret not having done a whole lot of like 105 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: done the like European trip in my twenties where you 106 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 1: go travel around everywhere. I think that would have been 107 00:05:16,839 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 1: a lot of fun to do. But on the other hand, 108 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: when I was in Australia, I did travel all around Australia, 109 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: so I guess I had to some degree the you 110 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: know experience of sleeping in cheap guest houses and going 111 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,880 Speaker 1: to see lots of different things. So yeah, I mean 112 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,359 Speaker 1: had it in a different form. Yes, I did do 113 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: that trip and it was really fun. Yeah, all right, Well, 114 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: then there we go we have, we can share each 115 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: other's life regrets in a different different way. 116 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 2: So, Sarah, what was your worst haircut? Ever? 117 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:47,480 Speaker 4: Oh? 118 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, this is easy. 119 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: So I began Japanese straightening my hair in two thousand 120 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 3: and seven, and I'm going to go into a little 121 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 3: detail because every time I mentioned Japanese straightening, I get 122 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 3: like three emails about like what is this? 123 00:05:57,600 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 2: What is this thing? 124 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 3: And it is a multi step process that makes your 125 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: hair completely straight, like frizz free. You can just get 126 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 3: out of the shower and it's like straight. I mean 127 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 3: I have not super curly hair, but just kind of 128 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:12,679 Speaker 3: like frizzy, wavy hair, and this makes it much easier 129 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 3: to control. And the first time I got like a 130 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:17,359 Speaker 3: real paycheck in residency, I was like, I'm getting my 131 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 3: hair straightened and it takes a long time. It takes 132 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 3: like four or five hours. And back then I think 133 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 3: I paid maybe like six hundred dollars for the initial straightening, 134 00:06:26,839 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 3: and that's actually a low price for an initial because 135 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 3: it's your whole head of hair. It takes like forever, 136 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 3: but I'm so proud of it. 137 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 4: And then I was like, now that I have straight hair, 138 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,720 Speaker 4: I can do really interesting things with my hair. 139 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,520 Speaker 3: And at the time, Victoria Beckham was really making waves 140 00:06:41,520 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 3: with this cute little like I don't know, pixies hype 141 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 3: haircut that was a little bit asymmetrical, and I was like, 142 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 3: I'm going to have posh spice hair. And I got 143 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 3: that haircut, and I see pictures from that time and 144 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: I was like wow, because not only was it bad, 145 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 3: but my hair was like so straight. Because it is 146 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,560 Speaker 3: so straight that it's just sort of like lanthly, it 147 00:06:58,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: was bad. 148 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: That's pretty funny. 149 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, So in fifth grade, I finally got my hair 150 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: cut like shorter, which was probably it needed to happen 151 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: for a while, it had been pretty long. But then 152 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: elected to do a home perm to as people may 153 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: remember that that was a thing back in the eighties 154 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: or nineties that you could buy these home perm kits. 155 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're still around or if the 156 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: chemicals are just so terrible that they would have been 157 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 1: changed in some way, shape or form with the evolution 158 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: of standards, but anyway, it was kind of funny looking, 159 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, a lot of little frize, Like here you 160 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: are trying to get rid of your curls, and I'm 161 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: trying to put them in but probably not in a 162 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: great way. So there's some pretty funny pictures from that 163 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: era speaking of people being from various eras though emojis 164 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: all right, So Sarah and I had a little discussion 165 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,240 Speaker 1: about emojis. So this icebreaker question was like, do you 166 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: use the you know whatever? Like when I want to 167 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: do a smiley face, I put a colon and a 168 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 1: parentheses right the half of the parentheses, and if you 169 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: want to do a frownie face, you do the other way, right, 170 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: you know? 171 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,240 Speaker 2: And then Sarah said, well, I was like absolutely shocked. 172 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:12,920 Speaker 2: She was shocked. 173 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: Apparently this like ages me to the point of geriatric 174 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 1: status on my smartphone. 175 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 4: Like technically we're the same generation, but I don't know 176 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:24,000 Speaker 4: that might be like where the millennials and DNEX divides, 177 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 4: Like I my husband does the same as you, Laura, like, 178 00:08:27,440 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 4: and he is older than you are by a few years. 179 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, I definitely associate that with an age cut off. 180 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: And I because it's somewhere in the eighteen months between 181 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 1: our birthdays, then I. 182 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:42,080 Speaker 2: Guess, so, yes, it must be. It must be. 183 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 3: Maybe it was like who got really comfortable using the 184 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: little like faces and aim or I think am had faces. 185 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 3: I don't know my kids use emojis in even like 186 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: different ways, or like we'll use different emojis than I 187 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:53,600 Speaker 3: would think of using. 188 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 2: And I feel like the quintessential like millennial emojis are like. 189 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 3: The laugh crying face, the like two tears face, the 190 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 3: like anguish face, the head explode face. 191 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 2: Those are all my very frequently frequently used. 192 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 3: Although I will say my mom, who I believe the 193 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 3: seventy five on the Davis episode Airsy Happy Birthday, she 194 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 3: uses a lot of face emojis, so. 195 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,440 Speaker 1: Okay, well, good for her. I mean, I guess I'm 196 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: just behind the times. I've never managed to do that 197 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: one where you know, you can actually do in the 198 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,200 Speaker 1: characters where it's I'm trying to demonstrate in here nobody's 199 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: seeing me, but with the hand shrug, right, Like, you 200 00:09:24,880 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: can do one with the hand shrug, but you have 201 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: to do like ten different characters in order to make 202 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: it look like the person's shrugging. But I have not 203 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: figured that one out. I don't go beyond apparently the 204 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 1: only emotions I need to express in my texts or 205 00:09:41,520 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: emails are the smiley face or the frowny face. And 206 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: that is the extent of my emotional language. Okay, So 207 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: the celebrity, Sarah, the celebrity that you have ever been 208 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: told you look like? 209 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 4: Oh? 210 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,040 Speaker 2: Yes, so what is the show again? 211 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 3: Oh, House of Cards? I look a lot like. I 212 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 3: don't really that I look like her, but I look 213 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:05,080 Speaker 3: like her character in House of Cards. So Kate Mara 214 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: plays this like annoying journalist and if you like look 215 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 3: at her fast, it's like me. And I actually was 216 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 3: kind of freaked out by seeing the show because like 217 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 3: the person superficially looked so much like. 218 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 2: Me that I like almost couldn't watch it. 219 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 3: When I see her all dressed up and looking Hollywood glam, like, 220 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 3: she looks way better than me. So you know, but 221 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:26,840 Speaker 3: in that show, it's like, wow, dappleganger, doppleganger for Sarah, 222 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 3: So go check that out. 223 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: I know at one point and somebody told me I 224 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: look like Jodie Foster, but I don't know if I 225 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: have anyone I look entirely like. Oh well, so, Sarah, 226 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 1: what is your least favorite food? Perhaps something you maybe 227 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: had to eat in childhood and have resolved never to 228 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,280 Speaker 1: eat as an adult. So I answered it, But I 229 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: have like so many different answers that I'm going to 230 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: because I had a great text discussion with my text 231 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: friend Kay and we were talking about foods we don't like. 232 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: I don't like I have texture issues, okay gum, I 233 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: don't like jello. I don't like those Morton gels. 234 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 3: I don't like anything that's like in the mouth that 235 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 3: might have like a slightly chewy or like flubbery kind 236 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 3: of feeling like I will die like. So that is 237 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 3: my most dislike thing. My other most dislike thing is 238 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 3: cilantro because I'm like a major Cilantro hater. But growing up, 239 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 3: I would say, like my mom would like microwave like 240 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: steamed plains zucchini, and I was not. 241 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 2: A fan of that either. 242 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:19,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like cilantro. So you're on the other side 243 00:11:19,640 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 1: of the cilantro. Does it taste like soap to you? 244 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: Or you just don't like it? 245 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: Just like I mean they always say soap. I'm like, 246 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 2: it just tastes like garbage, Like I just it just tastes. Yeah, 247 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 2: how do you eat but you like stuff like guacamole? Yeah, 248 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: I get it without you get it interesting? Interesting. 249 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: I'm a Cilantro fan, but I would say I remember 250 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 1: eating liver growing up, and I mean it must get 251 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 1: still sold places. I'm sure people have like liver and 252 00:11:43,559 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: onions or something like that, but it's a food that 253 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,040 Speaker 1: I would never like contemplate buying as an adult or 254 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: serving in my household. 255 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: So there you go. All right. 256 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: If you were to have a superpower, what superpower would 257 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: you want? I debate about this. 258 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:02,240 Speaker 3: I mean part of me is like, would it be 259 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 3: cool to see each other hear each other like people's thoughts? 260 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: But then I'm like that would actually be kind of 261 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: probably multi layered and bad, like maybe there are things. 262 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: You don't you don't want to know. 263 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: So I would choose teleportation because I don't like driving. 264 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 2: I don't love flying. 265 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 3: It would just be so convenient to just like close 266 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: my eyes and then be wherever I wanted to be. 267 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's true. 268 00:12:21,559 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: Having been on some long flights, I feel like that 269 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:25,520 Speaker 1: would be helpful. 270 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: Or can your family also like teleport with you? 271 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,719 Speaker 1: I mean, can you take passengers along on your teleportation superpower? 272 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: I mean maybe we could go in like the like 273 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 2: flu powder thing, like a Harry Potter. 274 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Because I mean I was just saying, we're trying 275 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: to figure out if we could take like a longer 276 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: trip with our kids, because we have the equivalent of 277 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: being able to take like two weeks over Christmas next year, 278 00:12:47,280 --> 00:12:49,440 Speaker 1: so like, well, we could go somewhere much further away 279 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: would be great. And then we just had a mere 280 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: like two hours on the plane with our kids going 281 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: to and from Orlando from Philadelphia. It's just like, no, no, 282 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: we have not reached that. We've not reached that point. 283 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean, my older kids would be fine, but to 284 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 1: the younger ones, and I don't think I'm going to 285 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: leave them for that long. So it's uh, yeah, oh, 286 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: well ponder that one. So teleportation would be cool, but 287 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: I also would. 288 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 2: Really enjoy flying. 289 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 1: I think flying would be awesome just from you know, 290 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: when we were doing that two hour trip to and 291 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:23,839 Speaker 1: from Orlando, we went to Disney and one of my 292 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: favorite rides ever is Avatar because the flight of passage, 293 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: you ride on the back of a banshee through this 294 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: navvy like thing, and it feels like you're flying, like 295 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: you go up and down, you swoop, the scenery changes, 296 00:13:40,240 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: and I always love that feeling. So I think I 297 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 1: might enjoy the superpower of being able to fly. 298 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,320 Speaker 3: And that led into our next one because I was like, oh, yeah, 299 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 3: Josh says the same thing. It must be you're like, 300 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: you have the same personality type because we can I 301 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,760 Speaker 3: tell Yeah, you were out to dinner and maybe I'd 302 00:13:56,760 --> 00:13:58,839 Speaker 3: told this before, but I'm an E S FJ and 303 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 3: Myers Briggs pretty consistently, and we were sitting at the 304 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 3: table with Laura and then my lovely college friend Vicky, 305 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: and they're. 306 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 4: Both the same. And then that's the same as Josh. 307 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: So then I was like, oh, I must only enjoy 308 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 4: hanging out with what is it. 309 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 2: I NTJ CJ. 310 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure there's any validity to any of this, 311 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: but im TJ is Actually it's interesting that you found 312 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,240 Speaker 1: me and Vicky because it's actually a pretty rare type, 313 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: particularly for females. 314 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,200 Speaker 2: Apparently, I don't know. I saw a distribution that. 315 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 3: Makes sense for both the view and the types of 316 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: women you both are. 317 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's interesting. Interesting. 318 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: I guess that means it's an introvert and I know 319 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm a planner. I don't really know what the other 320 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: two mean. 321 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: We didn't think that far. 322 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: We didn't figure out for ourhead because we're like different 323 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: on everything except being planners. 324 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:51,320 Speaker 2: Sensing and feeling, sensing a feeling. Apparently I don't sensor feel. 325 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: No sensing and proceeding, and then it's feeling and judging. Sorry, 326 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: we'll have to have a subject matter expert explain our 327 00:14:59,240 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 3: myers brace. 328 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: I have no idea what it actually is. I didn't 329 00:15:02,320 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: even start with the enneagram one. I think I started 330 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: taking it at one point and then I'm like, I 331 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: have no idea this could put me in anything. So 332 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: maybe being skeptical of that as part of the personality 333 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: framework as well. 334 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 2: All right, well, we're going to take a quick ad break. 335 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: We'll be back with more fun fact slash icebreakers. 336 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,280 Speaker 2: All right, so we are back. 337 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: Sarah and I are recording to gather in our hotel 338 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: room here in Naples, Florida. It's always fun to be 339 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: together in person, and as part of being together in person, 340 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: we are doing a list of fun facts slash icebreaker 341 00:15:45,280 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 1: questions that we found online and have been going through. So, Sarah, 342 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: what is your favorite holiday? I answered Thanksgiving? 343 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 3: But I think in the real answer in my heart 344 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 3: is I love New Year's I love the lead up 345 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: to it, I love the I love celebrating. I mean 346 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 3: I like New Year's Eve too, like leading into new year. 347 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, I knew my answer. 348 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: And in terms of I mean, because I know you 349 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: sometimes do like religious holidays with your extended family. 350 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 2: Do you have one of those that's like a major 351 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: fun one or. 352 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,440 Speaker 3: Well, I would have to go with the Jewish New Year, 353 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 3: the Jewish New Year, Okay, same thing, same thing. 354 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: Right, that's a rashashana, right, yeah, okay, so celebrate that 355 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: and as a family one too. Yeah. I like Christmas, 356 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: but because I like all the lead up, I like 357 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: the cozy aspects of it. It can be a little 358 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 1: bit high pressure though, so sometimes I kind of like 359 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: the Thanksgiving part of it too, because it's you get 360 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: some of the coziness of Christmas, and you can have 361 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: your Christmas stuff up by Thanksgiving most of the time, 362 00:16:44,400 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: but it's a little bit less pressure. And certainly when 363 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: you are a mom of five children and are coordinating 364 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: everyone's gifts and wrapping and activities, Christmas winds up consuming 365 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: a lot of energy. So yeah, all right, if you 366 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: had a time machine, would you prefer to go forward 367 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 1: or backwards? If we had quite a discussion about this 368 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: over a drink last night, I know, but. 369 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 2: I couldn't even make up my mind. 370 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: Like, I feel like both we both decided that going 371 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 3: too far backward was a very. 372 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: Bad idea, because like what if you like cut yourself 373 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: and get an infection at like it's seventeen sixty three 374 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, whoops, I guess I'm not making it back. 375 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 2: To the future. Yeah. 376 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 3: Plus, I mean we probably in certain places wouldn't have 377 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 3: been able to go to school, you know, like a 378 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,359 Speaker 3: lot of rites that we take for granted would be 379 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 3: taken away. 380 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: I don't really want to not be able to vote 381 00:17:37,600 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: in things. 382 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:41,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, the nineties would be fun to relive, and I 383 00:17:41,880 --> 00:17:43,600 Speaker 3: think I'd like to go into like the near future, 384 00:17:43,640 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 3: but then the far future is also slightly terrifying. 385 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm like that that'll be the cold dead planet. 386 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: I guess, you know, hopefully our time machine still goes 387 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: back once we're like hovering around it. 388 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. 389 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: I you know, I'm pretty happy with the present. I guess, 390 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 1: you know, I think, much. 391 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,760 Speaker 3: Like reading other people minds, I think you just don't 392 00:18:01,800 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 3: want to a box. 393 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,760 Speaker 1: I don't want to Yeah, yeah, okay, weirdest food you 394 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: have ever eaten? 395 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah? We I mean, did you have a good answer 396 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,120 Speaker 2: for this well. 397 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:13,239 Speaker 1: I mean, so when I was in Australia, somebody, you know, 398 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: there was some like thing that was totally just aimbed 399 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: at tourists where you could try kangaroo meat because normal 400 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: people do not eat kangaroo meat because it's really gamey. Right, 401 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: So anything that's a wild animal is not going to 402 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,679 Speaker 1: taste all that great because they are more muscular, Like 403 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: it's a just different flavor, so it's gonna be like 404 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 1: a darker gamy type of meat. 405 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: It's just not good. Right. 406 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: So I have, in fact had kangaroo, but eh, we've 407 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: both tried like escargo, right, you know, one of the 408 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 1: things that's. 409 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 2: True French not a common not a commonly eaten thing. 410 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: I guess I've had meals with like rabbit and stuff 411 00:18:47,320 --> 00:18:50,199 Speaker 2: like rabbit. Yeah, that's interesting, that's you know, that's true. 412 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: When I was in Japan once, they there's a certain 413 00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 1: kind of cuisine and I've never figured out what it is, 414 00:18:55,720 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: so maybe somebody can write in and tell me what 415 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: this is. But it featured both like raw basically like 416 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: very rare steak and eggs that were not cooked that much. 417 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: I was like, this is really funny. Is this what 418 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,240 Speaker 1: they serve? To the tourist to like try to I 419 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,840 Speaker 1: don't know, make seem well, they eat it. I mean 420 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: they eat the fish with the heads on the moon served, 421 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: so maybe they'll eat this too. 422 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:21,200 Speaker 3: I think I also had some sort of novelty gator 423 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 3: byte ones gator bytes. 424 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: Yes, well, if you're in Florida, you got to try 425 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: that at some point. So of course, all right, if 426 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: you could live. 427 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 2: Anywhere for a year, Sarah, where would you want to live? 428 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 3: I feel like I have such a boring answer to this, 429 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 3: but I think it would be really lovely to live 430 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 3: in Hawaii. 431 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 2: Hawaii is pretty cool. 432 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: It's very beautiful. It'd be very peaceful. It would be 433 00:19:42,640 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 3: logistically easy. I wouldn't have to deal with I mean, 434 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 3: I know here I am contradicting myself. I want to 435 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:48,800 Speaker 3: travel abroad, yet I'm got to choose Hawaii. 436 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 2: No. I think there's a lot of places I have 437 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: fun living. 438 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 3: I mean, obviously, if it's an English speaking place, that 439 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: makes it easier. In New Zealand, I've always wanted to 440 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 3: go to So maybe a year would be the answer. 441 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 3: I really make that plane flight be worth it. 442 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. If you're going to spend eighteen hours 443 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,679 Speaker 2: on a plane. Yeah. New Zealand would be awesome. 444 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,440 Speaker 1: I mean, why, I love the beach, but I don't 445 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: know if I'd want to spend an entire year at 446 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: the beach. I guess that's the I always enjoy going 447 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,520 Speaker 1: for a couple of weeks in the summer. But then 448 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: that may be the extent of how much of that 449 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: I want. I mean, I was thinking maybe somewhere like London, 450 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 1: because you know, it's a great city, it's very beautiful 451 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: at prices, and they speak English, so I wouldn't have 452 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,439 Speaker 1: the barriers that you know, if I were, you know, 453 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 1: because am I bringing my kids, like if they're going 454 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:36,480 Speaker 1: to school, like they don't speak anything else, So that 455 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:38,360 Speaker 1: would be I shall appreciate. 456 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: The kids if I'm bringing the kids for a year. 457 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: Yeah. Then and then the upside of London, obviously is 458 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: you could get very easily to other cities in Europe. 459 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: It would be like me flying to Florida to go 460 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 1: to Berlin. You know, you go for the weekend. You 461 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: could go to. 462 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 2: All over Europe. 463 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: So I mean that would have an upside of being 464 00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 1: central for those locations. All right, if you were going 465 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:03,159 Speaker 1: to have dinner with any celebrity, who would it be. 466 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,439 Speaker 3: I mean, Taylor Swift is such an obvious answer, but 467 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 3: I think she'd be a fascinating dinner guest. I mean, really, 468 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 3: anyone super famous in Hollywood would be great. I'd invite 469 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 3: Ryan Gosling over for dinner. 470 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: What's your draw to Ryan Gosling? I don't know. 471 00:21:20,760 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: He seems super smart, and he's super cute, and he 472 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 3: probably knows a lot of coal people and seems like 473 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: he'd be a fun dinner guest. 474 00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 2: Fun dinner guests. 475 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I was thinking about people who are like 476 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,360 Speaker 1: sort of known for conversational ability. 477 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: I mean someone like. 478 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Oprah right that, I mean, she obviously has had conversations 479 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 1: with thousands of people, but or someone like John Stuart. 480 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,920 Speaker 1: I actually watched the return of John Stuart to Comedy 481 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,479 Speaker 1: Central his first few opening monologues, and reminded me how 482 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,919 Speaker 1: much I enjoyed watching that back and I don't know, 483 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: probably from twenty ten to twenty fifteen when he left. 484 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 1: I used to watch it all the time, so always 485 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: enjoy his sense of humor. 486 00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 2: So I'd probably maybe have maybe him. Jerry Seinfeld would 487 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:02,240 Speaker 2: be funny. 488 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: Seinfeld would be funny too. He's another really good one. 489 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: I've read some of his model, like he has books 490 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:10,639 Speaker 1: out of some of his material. 491 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:12,120 Speaker 2: It's always hilarious as well. 492 00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: If you had one thousand dollars to spend indulgently, what 493 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 1: would you spend it on? 494 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 3: I would I've thought about this since we talked about it. 495 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 3: I would just put it all on credit at the 496 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 3: place where I like to get massages, and then I 497 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 3: would get massages completely guilt free for like you know, 498 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 3: however many months it lasts like once a month. 499 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 2: Maybe I need to update my wardrobe. Maybe I just 500 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: like spend it on. 501 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: Nice clothes, but I think I need somebody to shop 502 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 1: with me because I'd probably spend it. 503 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: Maybe you'd actually spend that money on a stylist. Stylist, 504 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: I think I could be. That could be what is 505 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,640 Speaker 2: your favorite breakfast cereal? 506 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 3: I don't eat that much breakfast cereal lately, but I 507 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 3: really enjoy like the really like fancy granola that's like 508 00:22:57,880 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 3: all natural and like has no sugar, like not the 509 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 3: like Nature Valley Brand or something like that, but the 510 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 3: ones that come in like the little like paper bags, 511 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 3: or that you buy it some a specialty store, like 512 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:06,959 Speaker 3: I can get it to that. 513 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 2: Do they actually taste good or you just feel very 514 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 2: mrtuous eating it. No, no, no, I love it. 515 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 3: I actually like it better when it's not like super sweet. 516 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,400 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, Bola is a really good brand. 517 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: Oh oh la, Yeah, I've never heard of that one. Well, 518 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: my tastes aren't nearly as fancy. I like corn flakes, 519 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 1: but I do often put granola in them because I 520 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: like a little more crunch, and corn flakes are kind 521 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: of soggy by about ten seconds of putting my almond 522 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 1: milk on them. 523 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: I also like cheerios. I don't know. 524 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: Cheerios are just good. I enjoy them so but pretty 525 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 1: much most breakfast here, I can't get early into the 526 00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: ones with like the marshmallows. 527 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 2: I don't know. 528 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: My husband eats lucky charms. I cannot fathom like eating 529 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: lucky charms. But because of this, we have lucky charms 530 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: in the house. 531 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 2: And that's really funny. Do you think he wants it 532 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 2: publicly known that he's I don't know. 533 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: I just shared it, so now now everyone knows a 534 00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: fun fact about him. 535 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 2: Hoops. Sarah. 536 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: If you were to get a tattoo, yes, what would 537 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: it be and where would it be? 538 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 3: We dissected this and if I was forced under dress 539 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:11,520 Speaker 3: to get. 540 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: It, she doesn't want a tattoo. By the way, this 541 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: is not this is not upcoming anytime soon. 542 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: I would get like my kids' names, maybe like sj 543 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 3: ACG so, like our family in like really small letters 544 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:23,000 Speaker 3: on my. 545 00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:25,719 Speaker 2: Ankle, because like that would be kind of unobtrusive. 546 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 3: Your ankle's not going to get all like soggy when 547 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,200 Speaker 3: you get older and saggy whatever soggy. 548 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 2: That's my choice. I was propped probably by the cornflake discussion. 549 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, although I've heard that on the bone 550 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:38,679 Speaker 1: like then on your ankle would be pretty painful. 551 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:39,239 Speaker 2: I don't know. 552 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:41,920 Speaker 1: I mean, I guess I have a fairly high pain tolerance, 553 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 1: but yeah, no, ankle could be good or maybe I 554 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 1: don't know, upper arm or something. But I guess I 555 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: would want it somewhere that's unobtrusive. But then if it's 556 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: your lower back you can't see it, so you personally 557 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,280 Speaker 1: can't see it, then what's you know? 558 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. Yeah, I want to be able to 559 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 2: see it. You want to be able to see it. 560 00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:00,480 Speaker 1: I guess maybe some sort of abstract design I would get, 561 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: But then I have nothing that is important enough to 562 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 1: me as an abstract design that I'd want. 563 00:25:04,560 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 2: It permanently on my body. 564 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 1: Who can always draw something with a pen if I 565 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 1: want it on me? So I guess what would take 566 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: from this from this fun fact slash icebreaker question is 567 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,040 Speaker 1: that neither of us are going to be getting a 568 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 1: tattoo anytime soon. 569 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 3: What if there's like a random like ad placement for 570 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:24,480 Speaker 3: like a tattoo parlor. 571 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 1: This episode, that would be pretty funny if anyone who 572 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: is listening to this as like an adult person has 573 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 1: a tattoo that you have gotten, like not just as 574 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: like a teenage you know thing you did whim yeah, 575 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 1: but as an adult like you made a study decision 576 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: to get something. 577 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 2: We would love to hear about it. 578 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,919 Speaker 1: So please write us and let us know where you 579 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: got it, what it says our shows, and we will 580 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: take that into account. 581 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 3: If anybody has a best of both worlds tattoo, that 582 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 3: would be a little scary. I'll send you a free mug. 583 00:25:58,200 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 2: I broke one of my mugs. Can you send me 584 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 2: a free book? 585 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:04,439 Speaker 3: Oh good, josh On that forwarded them. 586 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: Okay, songs are artists that really take you back to 587 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: formative years of your life. So I guess what songs 588 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,399 Speaker 1: or artists if you heard them, would maybe be like, 589 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it is nineteen ninety five all over. 590 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:23,560 Speaker 3: Again, nineteen ninety five torri umusriamos like that was her 591 00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,680 Speaker 3: like Cornflake Girl era, and. 592 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 2: Speaking of corn flakes, yes, that's the of this episode. 593 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 2: I guess I am a Cornflake girl. 594 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,400 Speaker 3: Such a good song, such a good albums. 595 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: The Cornflake Girls thought that was a good solution hanging 596 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,560 Speaker 1: with the Raisin Girls. I mean, the lyrics make no 597 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: sense whatsoever on apparently the level that I understand them. 598 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,880 Speaker 3: So listen to some analysis of it, but I don't 599 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 3: remember what it was. But it actually did have like 600 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 3: a it had some meaning. 601 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure it had a meaning. But yeah, that's made 602 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: a lot into it. 603 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: That is my nineteen ninety five Okay, Cornflake Girl nineteen 604 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 1: ninety five. I got to say that I listened to 605 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 1: a lot of Indigo Girls in high school. 606 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: I had the. 607 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: Two CD set of there it was live back on 608 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: the bus y'all, I guess is what it was, and 609 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,320 Speaker 1: so it had their greatest hits up until I don't 610 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: know about nineteen ninety five that they had performed live 611 00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: various places so you know, I hear something from that. 612 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 1: Many of their pieces from that Galileo of course, the 613 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,640 Speaker 1: Closer to Fine the into all their concerts with. 614 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: That one featured prominently in Barbie. Oh yeah, well there 615 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 2: you go watch it. 616 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:31,160 Speaker 1: Well. 617 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,960 Speaker 2: Yes, speaking of things that we could skip to that one. 618 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: Things you are incredibly finicky about, Sarah, What are what 619 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: are you very finicky about? 620 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 2: Hair care? Hair care? Okay, hair care and. 621 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 3: Where I get my hair done because, by the way, 622 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: I still do Japanese straightening. I have done it since 623 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 3: two thousand and seven, so coming up on seventeen years. 624 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 2: And I'm picky. So what does that mean? 625 00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 1: Like in terms of shampoo you like, do you use 626 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: shampoo like in or condition or anything like? 627 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,200 Speaker 3: I can you use Like I didn't even bring any 628 00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 3: on this trip, So I guess I'm not that finicky. 629 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 2: I use the hotel stuff. 630 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, but I prefer like like either the Millbonn brand 631 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 3: because that's who like does the Japanese training, or like 632 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,919 Speaker 3: there's a brand Sephira that my hair guy recommended that 633 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 3: I like the smell of a lot. 634 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm picky. 635 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it turns out I'm really picky about things I watch, 636 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: which I have not watched many. 637 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 2: Movies or television shows. I don't know. 638 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 4: I just. 639 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:27,840 Speaker 1: It's not something I really like doing all that much, 640 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: and so if I'm gonna spend the time on it. 641 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,880 Speaker 2: It has to be something I know I'm gonna want 642 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 2: to watch. 643 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 1: There's a lot of things I don't really want to watch, 644 00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: so I guess I'm really over the top finicky about that. 645 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: I like it all right, selective, I'm selective. Selective, we'll 646 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: use that word, Sarah. What was the first concert you 647 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: ever went to? 648 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure it was Bear Naked Ladies at the 649 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: Theater of Living Arts in Philadelphia. Okay, it also could 650 00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 3: have been Tori Emos, Like I was thinking it's one 651 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 3: or the other. 652 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 2: When did you go see Toriemos. 653 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 3: In Philadelphia as well? In like nineteen ninety five or 654 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: six or something. 655 00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never seen her perform. I've actually never seen 656 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: the Endigo Girls performing there. I seen them too. I 657 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 1: have some worry that maybe it wouldn't be I don't know, 658 00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: they wouldn't play the stuff I'd want them to play, 659 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: and then I'd be one of those people be like, 660 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 1: were they playing the stuff from like nineteen eighties that 661 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 1: I want to listen to. 662 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,560 Speaker 3: Well, I saw them in like the nineties or maybe 663 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: the early aughts, and it was a woman fest, like 664 00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: everyone was like dancing in the aisles. 665 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 2: It was an outdoor concert. I think that was at 666 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: the Man. 667 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: Actually, all my good concerts are in Philadelphia where you 668 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 3: live now, So yeah, I think you should go see 669 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 3: the Indigo Girls. 670 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: Well, but I need to see them in the nineteen nineties, 671 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: so I got to take that time machine. You got 672 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: to go back to like nineteen ninety five and see 673 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 1: an Indigo Girls concert. 674 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 2: Then I think that sounds like a like a good plan. Yeah. 675 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: My first concert I ever saw was Michael Bolton, which 676 00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: a friend I was in sixth grade, I guess, and 677 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: a friend and I went to. It was like an 678 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: outdoor concert in Raleigh where we lived. So that was 679 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: my first live one. Been to several fun ones since then, but. 680 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, still remember it. It was an event. What did 681 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: you want to be when you grew up? 682 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:07,239 Speaker 3: I had a few phases, but I feel like the 683 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 3: one that was fairly consistent was I was interested in 684 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 3: being a psychiatrist. 685 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 2: And my idea was. 686 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 3: Not because I was like highbrow and reading, you know, 687 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 3: really cool Freudian literature. But because I thought the dad 688 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 3: on Growing Pains had a really. 689 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: Cool tal. 690 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 1: You know, being finicky about what we watched, that was 691 00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,840 Speaker 1: a good show. It was a good show, all right, 692 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: and apparently a job to aspire it to as well. Yeah, 693 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,680 Speaker 1: I think I wanted to be a writer, and then 694 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: in various times thought I might be like a performer 695 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: of some variety, which is probably why I still enjoy 696 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: speaking and enjoy singing in my choir and things like that. 697 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 2: I was like being up on stage. So there we go. 698 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:53,120 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about childhood activities. What were 699 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: the things that you did in your spare time when 700 00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 1: you were I guess kid, but also like high school, 701 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 1: like when you were actually thinking about what activities would 702 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,479 Speaker 1: be good for your development or something. 703 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,600 Speaker 2: Yes, I was a very busy high schooler. I was. 704 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 3: I played the violin pretty seriously, like I would go 705 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: to all the like State I even went to Eastern Orchestra. 706 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: I was really into it. Actually, I don't even know 707 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 3: if I was into it. I was pretty good at it, 708 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 3: and I was like leveraging that to get to go 709 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 3: to fund conferences and. 710 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:21,600 Speaker 2: Things like that. 711 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 3: And then I sang which I actually enjoyed much more 712 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 3: than playing and I also played piano, so I was 713 00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 3: like super musical. And then I also had this like 714 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 3: cheerleading side of my life, and they were always kind 715 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 3: of competing, like I'd miss this to go to that, 716 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 3: I missed this to go to that, and every won't 717 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,400 Speaker 3: be annoyed, and even like the singing, people were like, 718 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 3: you can't be screaming because you're a soprano and you 719 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 3: know states are coming or like whatever. 720 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, there was a lot of tension. 721 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 3: I will say I was much more gifted in the 722 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:52,520 Speaker 3: music realm than I was in the cheerleading realm by 723 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,520 Speaker 3: a lot. Was very mediocre in the cheerleading realm, but 724 00:31:56,520 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 3: I probably enjoyed the cheerleading realm. And oh, speaking of regrets, 725 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 3: don't know why I didn't like figure out fine running 726 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: back then. 727 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: I feel like I would have really enjoyed. 728 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: I would have enjoyed running. YEA, I didn't run as 729 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: a high school or whatever anything like that. I yeah, 730 00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: also did piano singing. I remember I did one year 731 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: of cheerleading in eighth grade, partly as a bid to 732 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: seem normal. I guess I did quiz bowl in high school. 733 00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: That was something I remember doing. And then when I 734 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: went to my second high school, I wund up being 735 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: part of the school newspaper, which was you know, I 736 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: had various Woodward and Bernstein fantasies that I was no 737 00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: doubt attempting to live out to you know, everyone having 738 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,920 Speaker 1: to deal with my like two thousand words screeds that 739 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: were then printed in that newspaper. But the good news 740 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:42,719 Speaker 1: is that was before most things are on the internet, 741 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,480 Speaker 1: so no one will be able to find it now. 742 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't know if you really uh, it's like a 743 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: microfiche somewhere. 744 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: You'd have to be looking into it to go find it. 745 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you were like running for president, you know, someone 746 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 3: would be like, yeah, of course. 747 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,239 Speaker 2: But I'm not running for a president. I also think 748 00:32:59,280 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 2: of it sometimes. 749 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: I mean the Daily Princetonian and other things had websites, 750 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: but like it was like the very dawn of this happening, 751 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: and so nobody really can find any of that very 752 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: easily now. 753 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: You know. 754 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: It's just thank goodness because I think that would have 755 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: been It's often good for your writing to develop more 756 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:21,880 Speaker 1: in a small market versus being exposed to everyone on 757 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 1: the planet quickly. 758 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 2: But speaking of high school. 759 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: Another fun fact Sarah and I discovered about each other 760 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: which we will only indulge in because we think that 761 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,000 Speaker 1: a lot of women are not perceived as being as 762 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,760 Speaker 1: mathematically competent as others for I don't know why, but 763 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,160 Speaker 1: that is. But Sarah, what did you get on the 764 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: math section of the SAT eight hundred? 765 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 2: What did you get on the math section of the 766 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:51,400 Speaker 2: SAT eight hundred? 767 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: So, yeah, yay, we didn't get eight hundred on the 768 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 1: other part, Yeah no, but which it is interesting since 769 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: both of us do a lot of writing. But yeah, 770 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: we both apparently I learned enough math to cough it 771 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: back up perfectly on the SAT. 772 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 2: So yay. Us. 773 00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:10,320 Speaker 1: What have you used consistently, Like any sort of product 774 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 1: or item you've used consistently since you were in high school? 775 00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 3: I still wear Clinique black Honey almost lipstick. I believe 776 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 3: it's been the love of the week on this show before. 777 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 3: But that color is just like it's so good and 778 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 3: it I feel like so many lipsticks really irritate my 779 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 3: lips and dry them out, and that one doesn't. And 780 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,239 Speaker 3: I don't know if they've left their formula unchanged since 781 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 3: the nineties, but. 782 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:31,799 Speaker 2: Like it's good it's good. 783 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I realized I should be wearing a slightly more 784 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: pink color than the brown I probably was, And somebody 785 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,359 Speaker 1: told me, he's like, oh, well, the nineties are back, 786 00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I think I probably got it. 787 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 2: In the nineties. So I just kept using it so 788 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 2: moved on. 789 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: But I've been using a Conair curling iron since the nineties. 790 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,799 Speaker 1: I started curling my hair and probably my junior or 791 00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 1: senior year of high school. It is just I have 792 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: very straight hair, but I'd prefer to have a little 793 00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: bit more body, so I would curl it. And then 794 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: I kept doing that, and at some point, I think 795 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,120 Speaker 1: it was only like four years ago, the curling iron 796 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,239 Speaker 1: finally gave out. I think I had used it for 797 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: literally twenty five years, and no product really can be 798 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: expected to last quite that long. So shout out to 799 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:23,399 Speaker 1: con Air. But you know, then had to get another one. 800 00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 2: Connor. 801 00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:26,440 Speaker 3: He has been a show sponsor before, and I will 802 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 3: mention that I had conn Air Geometrics. 803 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 2: Do you remember this product? 804 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 3: No, this was an eighties product, I believe, and it 805 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 3: was an iron that could do curling, straightening, crimping, and 806 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 3: triangle curl triangle curls. 807 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:44,920 Speaker 2: But what was the occasion for that. 808 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 3: You know, you could like pull out these like interchangeable 809 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,520 Speaker 3: wands to like change you. 810 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 2: But I got some mileage out of. 811 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: The okay, the crimper, Okay, all right, well that was fine. 812 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,480 Speaker 1: Photos of that if we can. And as long time 813 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 1: listeners know, I have been dyeing my hair out with 814 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: the same Looreal pre fronts nine and a half a 815 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: boxes forever. So fun fact about me, I guess I 816 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 1: am quite flexible, especially for a forty five year old woman. 817 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:14,000 Speaker 2: I could. 818 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 1: Sarah asked if I can still do the splits. I 819 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: don't know if I want to be able to. I 820 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,800 Speaker 1: don't know if I can. I by risk injuring myself 821 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,960 Speaker 1: if I am, But I know that at least a 822 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,400 Speaker 1: couple of years ago, I could in fact do a split. 823 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:26,799 Speaker 1: So maybe one of the reasons that my back just 824 00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,640 Speaker 1: fell apart is that I'm too limber, so it's not 825 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: supported well, and these things are trade offs in life. 826 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 3: It turns out, yeah, I don't have a corollary to 827 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:37,280 Speaker 3: that because I'm not flexed. 828 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 2: I mean, I was super flexible. 829 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 3: But with all your cheerleading, right, all the running just 830 00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,399 Speaker 3: kind of like it's that out of you yeah, but. 831 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: Out of me, yes, so Sarah, Sarah is left handed, 832 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: but well no, yeah. 833 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 3: Some of my sad left handed fact, because I thought 834 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,120 Speaker 3: maybe my genes would be propagated. My parents are with 835 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,800 Speaker 3: left handed, sister's left handed, I am left handed. 836 00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,440 Speaker 2: None of my three children are left handed. So that 837 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 2: gene died in the water. 838 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 3: So did the red hair gene, which is kind of 839 00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,839 Speaker 3: sad because at my wedding my in laws talked about 840 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 3: having red haired grandchildren, and I did give them grandchildren, but. 841 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,919 Speaker 2: Not redheaded ones. Is your niece left handed? I don't 842 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,400 Speaker 2: think so. You don't think so of there? So that well, 843 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,960 Speaker 2: apparently it's very recessive. Who knew? Yes, so I guess so. 844 00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:23,360 Speaker 1: All right, Well, this has been a bunch of little 845 00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:26,959 Speaker 1: fun facts about us. Feel free to share your own 846 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: fun facts or your answers to any of these icebreaker questions. 847 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: Google the list. We chose several that from the list, 848 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: we did not get all of them. I don't think 849 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,960 Speaker 1: you want to know what our favorite sandwiches are, though 850 00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 1: maybe that could be its own discussion a whole episode, 851 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,360 Speaker 1: whole episode of our favorite sandwiches. But we will be 852 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,880 Speaker 1: back next week with more on making work in life together. 853 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:49,720 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening. 854 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 3: You can find me Sarah at the shoebox dot com 855 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 3: or at the Underscore shoe Box on Instagram, and you. 856 00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: Can find me Laura at Laura vandercam dot This has 857 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: been the best of both worlds podcasts. Please join us 858 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 1: next time for more on making work and life work together.