1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: Good morning. I'm Brian Curtiz and I'm Doug Prisner. Here 2 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:07,320 Speaker 1: are the stories we're following today. 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:11,400 Speaker 2: Fitch Rating saying that growing debt and deficit forecast key 4 00:00:11,720 --> 00:00:15,360 Speaker 2: in the decision to downgrade the US credit weight rating. Yesterday, 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 2: the company lowered the rating from Triple A to double 6 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: A plus. Here's Fitch co head of American Sovereigns Richard Francis. 7 00:00:22,000 --> 00:00:24,119 Speaker 3: We're just saying that we do not think that the 8 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 3: underlying business story and the governance is compatible with triple 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:32,480 Speaker 3: A anymore. 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: Francis said that Fitch took into consideration the projected growth 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 2: in government debt as a percentage of GDP. The company 12 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 2: forecast that ratio to reach one hundred eighteen percent by 13 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five, and that's more than two and a 14 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,879 Speaker 2: half times the Triple A median of just thirty nine 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,839 Speaker 2: point three percent. 16 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: At the same time, today, the US Treasury boosted the 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: size of its quarterly bond sales for the first time 18 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: in two and a half years. More from Bloombergs and Kates. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 4: The Treasury will sell one hundred three billion dollars worth 20 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:05,040 Speaker 4: of longer term securities to help finance a surge and 21 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 4: budget deficits. The increased spotlights the rising borrowing needs that 22 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,800 Speaker 4: contributed to Fitch's decision to lower the US credit rating 23 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: by a notch from triple A to double A plus. 24 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 4: Officials at Treasury say Fitch's move will not change what 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: American and global investors know. That Treasury securities remain the 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 4: world's preeminent safe and liquid asset, and that the American 27 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 4: economy is fundamentally strong. In Washington and Kate's Bloomberg Day 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 4: Break Asia. 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: After the closing bill, we got a mixed report from Qualcomm, 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:36,640 Speaker 2: the largest maker of semiconductors for mobile phones, and we 31 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 2: saw a big sell off in the stock price, down 32 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 2: six point eight percent in after hour. Let's take a 33 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 2: closer look here. The company reported third quarter earnings of 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 2: a dollar eighty seven a share, topping analyst estimates of 35 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 2: a dollar eighty one, but revenue was eight point four 36 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:53,600 Speaker 2: to five billion. That was just short of the eight 37 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 2: point five to one billion that analysts had been forecasting. 38 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 2: More from Bloomberg's Tom Buzby. 39 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 5: The big takeaway, though, is that for handsets and the 40 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 5: processors that run them remains stubbornly weak, especially in China, 41 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 5: the world's biggest market for smartphones. Revenue for the fourth 42 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 5: quarter now forecast to be in a range of eight 43 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 5: point one to eight point nine billion, with the midpoint 44 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 5: below the average analyst estimate of eight point seventy nine billion. 45 00:02:18,120 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 5: Shares slipping lower in late trading tom buzzby Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 46 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,120 Speaker 1: Apple and Goldman Sachs say their new high Yield Savings 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: account has reached ten billion dollars in US deposits. We 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: have more from Bloomberg's Charlie Pellett. 49 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 6: It shows strength in the face of speculation that the 50 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 6: partners may be heading for a breakup. The iPhone maker 51 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 6: says since the service launched in April, ninety seven percent 52 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 6: of users have chosen to get their Apple Daily Cash, 53 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 6: a cash back reward program deposited into the account. The 54 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 6: savings account has built into the wall of app on 55 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 6: iPhones and allows users to transfer money in and out 56 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 6: like a traditional account, yielding four point one five percent 57 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 6: in interest. The announcement follows a wallst Journal report in 58 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 6: June the Goldman Sachs was considering exiting the Apple partnership 59 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,639 Speaker 6: in New York. Charlie Pealett Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. 60 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:13,400 Speaker 2: Well China has laid out new regulations to stop miners 61 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: from spending too much time on mobile phones. Bloomberg's Joan 62 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: Wong has the story from Hong Kong. 63 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 7: Children in China won't be allowed to access the Internet 64 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 7: from mobile devices from ten pm to six am. For 65 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 7: sixteen to eighteen year olds, They'll be restricted to a 66 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 7: maximum of two hours on their devices. China's big tech 67 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 7: companies ten Cent and byt Dance are among those hardest 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 7: hit by the measures. Since twenty twenty one, China has 69 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 7: pursued campaigns to alleviate online addiction among miners, but these 70 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 7: new restrictions are seen as a counter move to recent 71 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 7: steps of ething in the sector in Hong Kong. I'm 72 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 7: joined Wang Bloomberg Day Brigasia. 73 00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 2: Well, I'm Brian Curtis along with Doug Christner, and we're 74 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 2: looking at a pretty sharply down day of equities and 75 00:03:56,480 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 2: I think, as you mentioned some citing the ramp up 76 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 2: in tra issuance and the hot ADP jobs report, others 77 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 2: would probably point to consolidation and the notion that we 78 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 2: had overbought conditions in the market and this was probably 79 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 2: a period where we had too much bully centiment. We'll 80 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,160 Speaker 2: see if this is a dip that gets bought or 81 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 2: if indeed it really qualifies as a dip, because day 82 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: to day you just don't know whether or not the 83 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 2: mood is slightly changing. 84 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot of weakness and information technology within the 85 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: S and P. The entire group was down today by 86 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 1: around two point six percent, And Brian, you were kind 87 00:04:30,279 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: of alluding to this yesterday. There may be a little 88 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 1: bit of a silver lining here when it comes to 89 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 1: that downgrade by Fitch of the US debt rating, at 90 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: least for companies like Microsoft and Johnson and Johnson a 91 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 1: small group of companies that have credit ratings high or 92 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: as high as the US maybe they will benefit. Sovereign 93 00:04:49,480 --> 00:04:52,839 Speaker 1: bonds and portfolios could be replaced with these highly rated companies. 94 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: That was the case that we saw a few years 95 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: ago during the European sovereign debt crisis. 96 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, there's a lot of mitigating factors here, a 97 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 2: lot of ways of looking at it and kind of 98 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: trying to see exactly what Fitch did and why the 99 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: impact has not been that great. And when you look 100 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: at a lot of triple A rated entities, if you're 101 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 2: looking at countries. Some of them live under the umbrella 102 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,119 Speaker 2: of the US security protection. They don't have to spend 103 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: as much on military sale and military spending as the 104 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 2: US does. So there's so many different factors here in 105 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 2: how you weigh this up. If you listen to Jamie 106 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 2: Diamond and others, it's worth noting, but it's not that 107 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 2: big a deal. 108 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,320 Speaker 1: Just want to point out very quickly that you were 109 00:05:37,360 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: talking about the story to limit smartphone use for young 110 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 1: people in China. Today the Nasdaq Golden Dragon China Index 111 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: was down on that news by more than four percent. 112 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 8: Yeah. 113 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we had this news break actually before the market 114 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 2: closed here, and we had companies like ten Cent and Kwaisho, 115 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: Waywoo and others trading down even as much as four 116 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: to five percent, So definitely an impact. I heard you 117 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 2: talking on the previous program a little bit about you know, 118 00:06:02,720 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 2: people looking at this and saying, now, wait a second. 119 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 2: We thought you were going in one direction now this, 120 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 2: but I think you have to take all of these things. 121 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 2: They're all working together, and it's like two steps forward, 122 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 2: one step back, something like that. Now it's time for 123 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: Global News. Well again, we will have our guest coming 124 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 2: up in a few moments. That is Sylvia Jablonski. But 125 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,240 Speaker 2: let's get to some of the top news stories of 126 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: the hour. And we crossed to the nine to sixty 127 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 2: news room in San Francisco and Ed Baxter. 128 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 9: Ed, all right, thank you very much, Brian. New York 129 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 9: City struggling to find a way to house a huge 130 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 9: influx of migrants, many of whom are just sleeping on 131 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 9: the streets. New York says it's received more than ninety 132 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 9: five thousand asylum seekers in the past fifteen months. Deputy 133 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 9: Mayor for Health and Human Services and williams Isom calling 134 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 9: on the federal government for help. We are seeing twenty 135 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 9: three hundred people a week still coming into New York 136 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 9: City seeking shelter. 137 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 10: That is unsustainable. 138 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 9: Williams Isom says, all options or a housing shelter in 139 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 9: Manhattan Central Park and Brooklyn's Prospect Park. She says for 140 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 9: them to be sleeping on the streets is inhumane and 141 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 9: unsustainable for New Yorkers. Ben James Deadley storms brought the 142 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 9: heaviest rainfall on record. It triggered floods. They killed at 143 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 9: least twenty people in northern China this week. The worst 144 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 9: spot of the Capitol recorded twenty nine point three inches 145 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 9: of rain from Saturday through Wednesday. That's the most ever 146 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 9: in data going back to eighteen eighty three. Officials say 147 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 9: at least twenty died in the flooding. Some reaction today 148 00:07:29,680 --> 00:07:33,240 Speaker 9: to the latest indictment against Donald Trump very interesting. For example, 149 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 9: John Dean, former White House Council for President Richard Nixon, 150 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 9: when asked today on sound On by Joe Matthew and 151 00:07:40,320 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 9: Kaylee lyons to compare this to Watergate. 152 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 8: Nixon's Watergate was like a lightning bug. Trump's behavior is 153 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:54,920 Speaker 8: like a lightning storm, and it it threatens the entire 154 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 8: structure of our democracy. 155 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 9: Dean says, the indictment has written so that the there 156 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 9: will be no First Amendment argument brought into the legal defense. 157 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,360 Speaker 9: And the man who presided over the Senate accreditation on 158 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 9: January sixth, Mike Pence. 159 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 11: What the President maintained that day, and frankly has said 160 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 11: over and over again over the last two and a 161 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:19,680 Speaker 11: half years, is completely false and it's contrary to what 162 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 11: our constitution and the laws of his country provide. 163 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 9: And Congressman Jimmy Raskin, who presided over the Trump impeachment hearing, says. 164 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 9: The Trump campaign says, this reminds them of Nazi Germany. 165 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 12: But it's a kind of moral dyslexia represented in that 166 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 12: statement right there, because it was precisely an authoritarian attack 167 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 12: on our constitutional democracy, which is being prosecuted by this 168 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 12: special counsel. 169 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 9: Then Raskin says, it vindicates the January sixth committee work. 170 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 9: So what can the defense be. Well, Bloomberg's Mike Dorning says, 171 00:08:55,840 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 9: it will most probably set her on. 172 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 10: Intent because you have to show career in tent for 173 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 10: these charges to stick. So the more likely legal defense 174 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:08,240 Speaker 10: is going to be, hey, I thought this was all 175 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 10: the case, so there was no corrupt intent. 176 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 9: Trump appears in court tomorrow on the latest charges Global 177 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 9: news power by more than twenty seven hundred journalist and 178 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 9: analysts in over one hundred and twenty countries in San Francisco. 179 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,199 Speaker 9: I'm Ed Baxter, and this is Bloomberg. 180 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 2: This is Bloomberg day Break Asia, Brian Curtison, Rashad Salama. 181 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,840 Speaker 2: Our guest is Sylvia Schablonski, co founder, CEO and CIO 182 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 2: at Defiance ETFs. Sylvia, great to have you with us 183 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 2: here on the program. So the action today is this 184 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,439 Speaker 2: a serious new direction or is this just a little 185 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: consolidation that investors will likely buy? 186 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:46,320 Speaker 13: Hi good evening. Well, I would hope that it's it's, 187 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 13: you know, a consolidation that investors will likely buy. I 188 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 13: think that you know, we've had this sort of rip 189 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 13: roaring rally to the tune of trillions in the market, 190 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 13: and you know, you get some bad news and it 191 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 13: seems to really kind of set investors off kilter. I 192 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 13: thought it was a bit of an overreaction. Actually, I 193 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 13: was really surprised at the level of pull back, particularly 194 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 13: then NASDAC today, you know, fetuating is it's one agency 195 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 13: and we went from you know, we went down one level. 196 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 13: But it's you know, I heard you talking about Jamie 197 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 13: Diamond earlier before. You know, the US is US Academy 198 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 13: is in great shape. GDP is positive. You know, people 199 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,120 Speaker 13: sort of have jobs, wages are increasing, corporations are earning money. 200 00:10:26,120 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 8: It just you know, sort of doesn't seem. 201 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 13: Like a like a big crisis here in my mind. 202 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 13: So it feels overdone and perhaps a buying opportunity. 203 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 14: Well exactly, that's what I was going to ask you about, Sylvia. 204 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 14: I mean, is this buying the dip opportunity or do 205 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 14: you think that this represents perhaps a bit of a 206 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 14: sea change taking place as people, as they call it, 207 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 14: de gross now and maybe look elsewhere away from what's 208 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 14: propelled the rally towards perhaps some of the more defensive 209 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 14: options available for the DOW for instance, which is actually 210 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 14: done quite well of late. 211 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 13: I think that that is certainly reasonable. However, there has 212 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 13: also been so much you know, sort of fear of 213 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 13: missing out on the actual rally of semiconductors and technology 214 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 13: stocks that I think, you know, an opportunity like this 215 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 13: where you see some of the bigger names, although they 216 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 13: haven't pulled back all that much, but a couple of 217 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 13: percentage points on you know, Navidia and and Apple and 218 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 13: things like this, you know, some of the names that 219 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,760 Speaker 13: are part of this future of innovation, of growth, AI, 220 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 13: machine learning. They may be opportunities for investors to kind 221 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 13: of get in and you know, pick up that allocation 222 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,600 Speaker 13: that they've missed along the way. But to your point, 223 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 13: it is also time to think about a diversification game. 224 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 12: Right. 225 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 13: We have had a big run up in the NASDAC, 226 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,920 Speaker 13: you know, the best first half since nineteen eighty three, 227 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 13: and while that can continue into year end. You know, 228 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:39,559 Speaker 13: you do have other kind of parts of the market 229 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 13: that haven't rallied quite as much. You know, if you 230 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 13: just look at the bioteches for example, you know there's 231 00:11:44,920 --> 00:11:47,240 Speaker 13: an example of something that just like hasn't ripped up 232 00:11:47,280 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 13: and might be a good place to diversify. 233 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,400 Speaker 2: So what would give you a little more of a 234 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 2: cautionary feeling, Well, I think I. 235 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 13: Think that if you know, we've got another hot jobs number, right, 236 00:11:58,400 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 13: so I think a lot of it is going to 237 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:02,719 Speaker 13: come down down to the FED, and you know kind 238 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 13: of what the FED foresees the future of rate hikes being. 239 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,120 Speaker 13: You know, we all have it kind of locked in 240 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 13: that there might be another rate hiker too, but at 241 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 13: that point, you know, it's sort of over and then 242 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 13: the next conversation will be about pulling back there. So 243 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 13: I do think that the future path of the FED 244 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 13: will determine whether or not we kind of continue to 245 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 13: rally into the year. But you know, if you look 246 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 13: at earnings again, earnings are decent and interest dates are 247 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,400 Speaker 13: higher than they've ever been in a decade. They've broken 248 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,640 Speaker 13: some regional banks, they've you know, starved off m and 249 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 13: a activity VC investing all of this you know type 250 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 13: of activity, but it's really now started to come back 251 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 13: and the resilience of stocks has just been incredible to 252 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,440 Speaker 13: the you know, in the first first half, and so 253 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 13: I don't really see anything knocking us out of that, 254 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 13: you know, for the next next few months going into 255 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 13: year end, unless there's a big geopolitical event or a 256 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 13: surprise in the FED. 257 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 14: Well, Sylvia, I mean, the thing is that we had 258 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 14: the NASAC and some of those big names have a 259 00:12:57,559 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 14: bit of a wobble earlier the year, and then suddenly 260 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 14: we had the whole AI messaging come through, and that 261 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 14: just put another rocket under those stocks. The thing is, 262 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 14: it is a bit reminiscent of the dot com bubble. 263 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 13: What are your thoughts, Well, I think, you know, the 264 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:15,680 Speaker 13: difference is that, you know, these are sort of, for 265 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 13: lack of better words, real things and real technologies that 266 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:21,440 Speaker 13: can improve how companies operate. So it is different in 267 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 13: that sense. 268 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 7: You know. 269 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 13: For example, in medicine, AI can be used to you know, 270 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 13: have better outcomes, whether it's through the use of robots 271 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 13: or data and surgeries. It can provide better research, It 272 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 13: can provide you know, better and more efficient drugs for 273 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 13: the aging baby, boomer population. You know, all of the 274 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,360 Speaker 13: workers that factor, you know, factory work, factory managers couldn't 275 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 13: find to help, you know, run manufacturing plants and things 276 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 13: like this. Those can be replaced with more efficient technology, 277 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 13: robots understanding how much you need to run your supply 278 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,320 Speaker 13: chain efficiently. So I do think that AI is technology 279 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 13: that will improve the bottom lines of corporate America across 280 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 13: the board. But I think it'll take time to play out. 281 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 13: You know, we're so excited about it now, and that's great. 282 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 13: I think it's the staples of AI that are that 283 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 13: are routing now, but later on it'll be the companies 284 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 13: that are using that AI that will benefit, in my opinion. 285 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 2: And just briefly twenty seconds, if a teen asks you 286 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 2: should we worry about this pitch call, what do you say? 287 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 13: I would say no. I would say it's you know, 288 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,880 Speaker 13: it's one agency. It's it's probably going to turn around 289 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 13: in a couple of months, and you know, just keep 290 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 13: an eye on the markets. 291 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: Okay, Sylvia, thanks very much for being with us. Sylvia Jablonski, 292 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 2: co founder, CEO and CIO at Defiance ETFs. 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