WEBVTT - Call It Short & Sweet: Just Order The Steak

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<v Speaker 1>Call It what It Is with Jessica Capshaw and Camille Luddington,

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<v Speaker 1>an iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Hello, Hello, Hello Call It crew, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 2>another episode of Short and Sweet, Sweet Sweet Sweet. Today

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<v Speaker 2>We're we're doing best relationship advice. Uh huh, all this

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<v Speaker 2>is I've had some bad advice too. Yeah, you should

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<v Speaker 2>talk about good and bad advice that you and I

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<v Speaker 2>have both gotten.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, Oh, I just for some reason, like a lightning

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<v Speaker 1>rod moment, it just like came to my brain, like

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<v Speaker 1>the worst advice when you just said that. Tell me well,

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<v Speaker 1>and I understand why it existed, and I'm sure there's

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<v Speaker 1>some value to it, but remember when it used to

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<v Speaker 1>be well it probably is still my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, I'm just okay. I have a feel you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>say what I was thinking to.

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<v Speaker 1>You, but go, oh, I don't know. Another's pressure. No,

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<v Speaker 1>just this like hard to get hard to get at,

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<v Speaker 1>like that you're meant to be unavailable and that you're

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<v Speaker 1>meant to manufacture or somehow strategize this unavailability to then

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<v Speaker 1>create more intrigue or like stir up the wanting. I

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<v Speaker 1>just feel like that advice really messed with my head

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<v Speaker 1>when I was dating.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so hard though, because if you're the only one,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like everyone in their like teens twenties has

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<v Speaker 2>that advice or feels that way. And so then if

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<v Speaker 2>you're the only one not playing the game, yes, then

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<v Speaker 2>that like what does that do?

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<v Speaker 1>Like?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you look desperado? Like if someone waits like five

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<v Speaker 2>hours to write you back and then you text back immediately,

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<v Speaker 2>are you desperate Dan? Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Good for you. You came up with a differ man's name.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not desperate Bob.

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<v Speaker 2>It's only because the saying is desperate Dan. Oh where's

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<v Speaker 2>that saying? It's like, oh wait, now it's making me

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<v Speaker 2>think that like a desperate Dan and I have my

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<v Speaker 2>brother's name is Dan? Have we just been teasing him

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<v Speaker 2>about that?

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<v Speaker 1>I thought I was a.

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<v Speaker 2>Real it was a worldwide thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I've never heard about desperate Dan.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, no, no, no, no, it's a desperate dad. It's

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<v Speaker 2>a is a comic book character. Yeah, it makes you

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<v Speaker 2>for a second there, I thought we had just invented

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<v Speaker 2>to make fun of my brother, which is completely possible. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you're then a desperate dad and like you're the and

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<v Speaker 2>then they're like wow eager.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yes, I think I probably was when I

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<v Speaker 1>really liked someone. I probably what I definitely wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>answer right away.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to, Yeah, of course you want to. You're

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<v Speaker 2>so excited.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the worst piece of advice I ever got

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<v Speaker 2>was to basically, like in the early days, really keep

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<v Speaker 2>up appearance says like there was no like yeah you

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<v Speaker 2>can meet up and like not be all decked out makeup,

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<v Speaker 2>ways on hair, whys like I was a full on

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<v Speaker 2>like call Thos and Tiara, Yeah you're a red carpet ready.

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<v Speaker 2>I was red carpet ready for good, you know, three

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<v Speaker 2>months of dating. It was not a leg out. And

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<v Speaker 2>also I did the whole thing in Bridesmaids where I

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<v Speaker 2>was set out of bed and I did the makeup.

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<v Speaker 1>Why roll out of bed, steak out of bed, make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you look all the ways, get back in bed,

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<v Speaker 1>be like I just woke up. Yes, yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I screw that. That's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 1>I was cute. I didn't feel cute that that part

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<v Speaker 1>of life has been erased from my memory. And just

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<v Speaker 1>like the even the idea of having like how did

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<v Speaker 1>we ever get through any of it? Those early days

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<v Speaker 1>where you still are wanting to make like just the

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<v Speaker 1>most precious impression and never have bad breath or have

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<v Speaker 1>to poop.

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<v Speaker 2>Or yeah, far, I remember being on dates. This is

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<v Speaker 2>so tragic. I'vem being on dates and feeling like I

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<v Speaker 2>should order the salad. I wasn't gonna order this dak

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<v Speaker 2>and mashed potatoes.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And also part of it was because, like in case

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<v Speaker 2>later on and you're like in your underwear, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>want to. I don't want to look full, which is

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<v Speaker 2>so insane.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, Well, also I just remember beginning of relationships quick.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually genuinely wasn't very hungry, like I was all

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<v Speaker 1>I was full of full of or full of infatuation,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I was always like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>I was not hungry. Does the captains have a tiny

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<v Speaker 1>little tomato? Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>No, I wanted. I wanted the mac and cheese with

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<v Speaker 2>the with all the trimmings. Yeah, but I wasn't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do it, which is insane because, by the way, who

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<v Speaker 2>cares if in underwear you look like you've had a

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<v Speaker 2>full meal. That's life in my twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's our life now. Definitely is our life now?

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<v Speaker 2>Definitely, I'm like, hold the tomato, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Bucket of wings, and then a bikini. I'm with them,

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<v Speaker 1>thank god.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, best piece of my relationship advice. I had someone

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<v Speaker 2>I was bad in my early twenties with name calling

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<v Speaker 2>and I in fights with my boyfriend. Oh really bad mean,

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<v Speaker 2>oh mean, not like but I would call asshole, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like I would like go for I would do some

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<v Speaker 2>low blows in my twenties, you know. And I realized

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<v Speaker 2>someone said to me, like, the second you lose respect

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<v Speaker 2>for each other and do that like, there's really no

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<v Speaker 2>coming back some most of the time. And I realized

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<v Speaker 2>that was true. And so when I got into relationship

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<v Speaker 2>with I want, probably Matt, but maybe even the boyfriend

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<v Speaker 2>before Matt, I started to really watch myself. And now

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<v Speaker 2>I'm much way.

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<v Speaker 1>Better at that. You're a real firecracker, aren't you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I got I had to tone it down.

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<v Speaker 1>You were at like a twelve.

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<v Speaker 2>I was at thirteen, and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Really wanted you at like an eight.

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<v Speaker 2>Even an eight. It was a little feisty.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to really put some water on it. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember being fighting. I remember some feisty times.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you ever like you listen you fucking did you

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<v Speaker 2>ever like do those in fights?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's not a good thing. It's not a good thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I was. It took a lot to get me there,

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<v Speaker 1>but then it was like you kind of wished I'd

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<v Speaker 1>gone there earlier because then it might not be so big.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So like I should have said I don't really

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<v Speaker 1>love this so much, or hey can you cut that out?

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<v Speaker 1>When I was at like at the eight. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I waited till I got pushed.

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<v Speaker 2>I waited to the thirteen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I waited until like twenty nine. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I was like, hold my purse, you mother. It

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<v Speaker 1>would be like everything came sized that. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>like the other person would be like, wow, yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>good advice.

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<v Speaker 2>That's good advice. The call the crew also has some advice,

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<v Speaker 2>had some advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't ask for the bad advice.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, sorry, wait, one more thing to add to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Only because I think that it's like it's something that

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<v Speaker 1>some either you will easily guess about me or you won't.

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<v Speaker 1>I in middle school you had to take debate in

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<v Speaker 1>seventh grade, and when you take debate, proper debate, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to argue. You don't know which side you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to argue. So every year, like the debate whatever they

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<v Speaker 1>are at the conferences, they have like a topic and

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<v Speaker 1>you research them and then you debate and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to take a position. And I remember that really cut

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<v Speaker 1>my teeth and I became really expert at and I

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<v Speaker 1>loved it. Loved it arguing. And by the way, both sides,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you could have been a lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I would have made a

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<v Speaker 2>good lawyer.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I just I loved I loved the logic of it.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved I actually also really loved walking my talk here.

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<v Speaker 1>I loved trying to see it from someone else's point

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<v Speaker 1>of view. Right. I found it incredibly hard to argue

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<v Speaker 1>some of the things that I did because they were

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<v Speaker 1>not my opinion, my personal opinion, but having to argue

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<v Speaker 1>them was a really really good exercise and it made

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<v Speaker 1>me understand the other side a lot more. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>one of my you know, one of the first jobs

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<v Speaker 1>I ever the real jobs I ever had, was for

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<v Speaker 1>David Kelly, who's just one of the most genius wordsmiths

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<v Speaker 1>of all time. I've gotten to work for some pretty

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<v Speaker 1>great I announcements and you know, the show. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a law show, and I remember starting an episode and

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<v Speaker 1>there would be a case, and I would almost instantly

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly which side of the case that I know

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<v Speaker 1>agreed with or I was aligned with. And his writing

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<v Speaker 1>was so good that by the end of it I

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<v Speaker 1>would have or by the middle of it, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have switched sides, and by the end of it, I

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<v Speaker 1>would have switched back to where I started. But it

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<v Speaker 1>was just he was so good at it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that stuff's really exciting and fun. Prove people wrong,

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<v Speaker 1>is what I'm trying to say.

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<v Speaker 2>Yay, I love that too. Who doesn't love that? Come on, Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We asked the crew, We're going to go through your

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<v Speaker 2>best relationship advice and share it. Share it with everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheryl said, communication is key, but understanding one another is

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<v Speaker 2>even more important.

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<v Speaker 1>Love it. Yeah, but I don't always understand sometimes. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>like I can, I can perspective, take, but I but

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<v Speaker 1>I sometimes do go. Yeah, I don't really understand, Like

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<v Speaker 1>I don't understand what it's like to be you in

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<v Speaker 1>this moment and feel the way you do. I could

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<v Speaker 1>respect it, but I might not always understand it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe that's what she's getting it because I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with you too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Sienna said, the best relationship advice I've received is

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<v Speaker 1>to put down all of my issues on paper. Odds

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<v Speaker 1>are they are built differently than what you built them

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<v Speaker 1>in your head to be?

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<v Speaker 2>Mmmm, that's cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. Uh date your spouse agree? Yes, Jennifer, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>I like to be wooed. So does Matt like a

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<v Speaker 2>little wooing.

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<v Speaker 1>Lazy said, those who don't put effort in for you

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<v Speaker 1>aren't worth your effort into them. I agree with that.

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<v Speaker 2>I've let them, Hannah. My mom always told me to

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<v Speaker 2>bring a newer guy. I am seeing tour sports event,

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<v Speaker 2>watch a big game and see if he re acts crazy.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Chico said, the best way to get over someone

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<v Speaker 1>is to get under someone else.

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<v Speaker 2>Chico, I don't agree. I don't agree. Oh do you.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm having to really think back. I think it can

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<v Speaker 1>be a distraction, but no, does it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think sometimes it can make you miss the other person.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially if the one that the new one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it can make you if they're you know, you're like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh it was gross. Say thank you often, even for

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<v Speaker 2>the little things. Recognizing efforts makes a huge difference. I

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<v Speaker 2>agree with that. Oh my god, it goes a long way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep. Juliana said, resolve the argument before you both go

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<v Speaker 1>to bed. That's one that people talk about.

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<v Speaker 2>I no, well, sometimes I'm too heated. I know I

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<v Speaker 2>need to go to bed, and it's just not going

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<v Speaker 2>to go anywhere, and I don't need to be there

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<v Speaker 2>until two o'clock in the morning. Yeah, yeah, Emily, the

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<v Speaker 2>best relationship advice I've ever received is that a cheater

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<v Speaker 2>will always be a cheater. I don't agree controversial. I

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<v Speaker 2>say this as someone who's cheated in my twenties. I definitely,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, was not always the best girlfriend. And I

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<v Speaker 2>just so I disagree. I've been with my husband for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time, you guys, and I've been very faithful

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<v Speaker 2>thirteen years. Baby. Yeah, baby, I don't know. When you're young,

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<v Speaker 2>you do stupid stuff. I think if you're an habitual cheater,

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<v Speaker 2>I think if you're cheating in every relationship, then the

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<v Speaker 2>likelihood is is that, I don't know if you can

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<v Speaker 2>turn it around.

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<v Speaker 1>I also think that some people feel comfortable, like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not even necessarily relationship specific, but you know those people

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<v Speaker 1>that just always cut corners, They always just sort of

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<v Speaker 1>fudge yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>The truth a little yes, why yes?

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that that's like shares some space with cheating.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a comfortability doing things that are not totally honest,

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<v Speaker 1>and I do think that that's something that if you listen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, if you don't do your work, yeah, then

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<v Speaker 1>that could be something that lasts for quite a while. Agreed,

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<v Speaker 1>yep uh Raley said, if you have to beg for

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<v Speaker 1>their attention, they aren't the one.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, we're not begging you guys, No way, Lena said.

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<v Speaker 2>My bestie once said, relationships are like a fart. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're if you have to force it, it's probably shit.

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<v Speaker 1>It gets me every I can't be a part of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I wish you'd read that one. Actually, Jess, we

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<v Speaker 2>know how you feel about parts. I I love that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's simple. I think that's simple, and I agree,

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<v Speaker 2>can't force anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Amelia says, no message is a message. I agree that's

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<v Speaker 1>very true.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Bridget, don't let friends or family's opinions influence you, Bridget.

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<v Speaker 2>I I've had some friends that have had some blinders on,

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<v Speaker 2>and it gets tricky because you want to help. First off,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, friends, unless they want advice, don't give it.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I have given unsolicited advice before. In my past, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't know if that boyfriend or girlfriend is renting

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<v Speaker 1>or they're they're buying. You know, so you gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta be mindful.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you do, and you know yeah, yeah, it's a

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<v Speaker 2>tricky situation. Although sometimes your friends. The truth is, sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>your friends or families see things that you don't see,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's the truth.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh, Laura says, do you like him or the idea

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<v Speaker 1>of him? This has helped me so many times.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. It's like, do you like him in real life

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<v Speaker 1>or you like him on paper?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? Yeah, yeah yeah, Larissa, maintain your individuality and keep

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<v Speaker 2>the romance alive. I think it's a death trap when

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<v Speaker 2>you become that person becomes your identity. I've seen it happen, Jess,

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<v Speaker 2>you've seen this happen. Oh for sure. A person's like

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<v Speaker 2>suddenly you're like, who, where'd my friend go?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Sucks? Yep, Okay, Michelle has this is a very

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<v Speaker 1>specific one. If there were two steaks on a plate,

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<v Speaker 1>would he take the better one or give it to you?

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<v Speaker 2>That's really I like that. It's kind of like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>it reminds me of when I said this to Matt

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<v Speaker 2>this morning because he made two cups of coffee. He

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<v Speaker 2>took a sip. He knows how I like my coffee.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes and he gave it to me, and then

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<v Speaker 2>he took a sip of the other one. He goes, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>this one's better, you can have it, and I was like, oh.

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<v Speaker 2>And he does stuff like that'll time, and it reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me of the scene always in the Wedding Singer when

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<v Speaker 2>he doesn't give her the window seat, he gives her

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<v Speaker 2>the aisle seat and she keeps getting her uh arm

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<v Speaker 2>bumped by the cart that goes by. Do remember this

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<v Speaker 2>she talks about, like how if you get yes, he

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<v Speaker 2>takes the best. It's so sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm still on sweet Matt.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he does cute things like that. He gives me

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<v Speaker 2>the better gup of Guffy and I said, no, baby,

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<v Speaker 2>you keep that gup because I love him big. Okay, Tatum, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I like this one. If you wouldn't let your daughters

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<v Speaker 2>go through it, don't let yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I feel like you've

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<v Speaker 1>given me that advice sometimes in a different way where

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<v Speaker 1>you're like, think about baby, Jess.

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<v Speaker 2>I know we've talked about baby Jess. Yes, yes, yes, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I think we should end on that one.

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<v Speaker 1>I like caretaking of our little selves, of our smaller selves.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because you might not have a daughter yet, you

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<v Speaker 2>might be near twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but just pretend like you did, Pretend like you're

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<v Speaker 1>your own daughter, Pretend like you matter more than anyone

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<v Speaker 1>in the world, and that you want to protect and

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<v Speaker 1>take care of yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we got out. We've talked about being the cheerleader

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<v Speaker 2>for yourself, your you need to be your your number

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<v Speaker 2>one fan for you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep, you gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I love this.

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<v Speaker 1>It helps a few of other fans too.

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<v Speaker 2>But yes, yeah, yeah, of course, of course, but sometimes yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I love it, you guys, I love all of these.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take some of these best relationship advice. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm gonna actually now I'm gonna also. I

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<v Speaker 1>love when we do these and then I hear more

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<v Speaker 1>that next week I'll be like out in the world

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll hear someone relationship advice. I'm like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 2>Exactly, and then we can bring it back to the pod.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, everyone, thank you for listening, and we will

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<v Speaker 2>call this the end. Of the episode