1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd Couple. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 3: Let's start here from last night, Thursday Night football. I 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 3: don't know if it was entertaining or a snooze fest. 10 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:34,239 Speaker 4: Well, it started out as a snooze fest. You know, 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 4: defense sometimes is good. But the Texans won a big 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 4: ball game. They really did. They beat the Buffalo Bills. 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 4: They neutralize right Josh Allen, mister Josh Allen, and they 14 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 4: won their third straight without CJ. 15 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 3: Stroud. 16 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 4: So they're three and zero without their starting quarterback. That 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 4: defense is good. Rob g just give us a little 18 00:00:58,000 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 4: take on what happened Thursday night. 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 5: It was this game dominated by that Texans defense. It 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,080 Speaker 5: was quite possibly the most impressive defensive performance we've seen 21 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 5: by any NFL team in years, not just because of 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 5: who they did it against. Josh Allen, of course, is great, 23 00:01:12,200 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 5: but Houston's defense two picks, one forced fumble, three total takeaways, 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 5: eight sacks, eleven quarterback hits, twelve pressures, held Buffalo to 25 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 5: zero for two in the red zone, and in the 26 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 5: process held the team to less than twenty points for 27 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:32,040 Speaker 5: the eighth time already this season. So basically eighty percent 28 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 5: of seventy the games they're keeping you under twenty points. 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 5: And in the process, you mentioned it, they did it 30 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:40,560 Speaker 5: without their starting quarterback CJ. Shroud. Davis Mills and all 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 5: that neck had himself a very solid game. The numbers 32 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 5: don't quite do it justice, but in the process last 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 5: three games, Davis Mills completing about six percent of his passes, 34 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 5: seven hundred and nineteen yards, five touchdowns, one pick, eighty 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 5: eight passer rating. He's gone one hundred and thirteen consecutive 36 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 5: passes without an interception. 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 3: Which is great. He's only what you want from your 38 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 3: backup when they come in. 39 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 5: He's only been sacked six times in the last three games, 40 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,440 Speaker 5: which is a lot because their O line has not 41 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 5: been great throughout the season, and their three wins, two 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 5: of them Buffalo of course last night, and Jacksonville the 43 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 5: first game, have come against the playoff teams in the ANFC. 44 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:19,880 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say this, I'm not overreacting or you know, 45 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 4: the hyperbole or anything. I'm gonna stick with Davis Mills 46 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 4: and not automatically run back to CJ. Stroud if I'm 47 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 4: the Texans, and I'm not saying that CJ. Stroud lost 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 4: his job because injury or anything. Sometimes you have something 49 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 4: going to hot hand. I think that you could take 50 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 4: a look at that. And obviously the defense is playing 51 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 4: really well. But what if we talked about the last 52 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 4: year and a half their offense with CJ. Stroud, right, like, 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: like remember after his rookie year, go back and look, 54 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: everybody picked them to go to the super Bowl. 55 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 3: It was it was you weren't You're not. That was 56 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,919 Speaker 3: a sexy pick. Oh yeah, see CJ. 57 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 4: Stroud and the Texas, Oh my, oh yeah, he's just 58 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 4: a rookie looking away. How are you gonna stop that kid? 59 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 4: Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And it's been 60 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 4: raggedy since then, since year one. Last year, like we 61 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 4: every every week we watched they can't score. That's why 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: I said to you before when they scored the forty 63 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 4: points against Baltimore. 64 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 3: Like that was an aberration that was like, that was Baltimore. 65 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 3: That wasn't them, because they don't do that. 66 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: And I'm not saying this is not Davis Mills putting 67 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 4: up forty points a game and oh my god, you 68 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 69 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: C J. 70 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 4: Stroud can never get back in there or whatever it is. 71 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 4: That's not what I'm saying. Something's working here. Three and 72 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 4: oh a couple of wins against playoff teams. Do you 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 4: remember It's a little different, but you were remember this 74 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 4: when New Orlando Magic upset Lebron James and the Cavaliers 75 00:04:07,360 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 4: to get to the NBA Finals. That was the NBA Finals. 76 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 4: We were waiting for Kobe and Lebron. Do you remember 77 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,599 Speaker 4: Rob g the Puppets, Remember the muppets of those guys 78 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 4: all year that was supposed to be the finals and 79 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: it never happened. You know why because Dwight Howard and 80 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: Turker Glue and and skipped Tom Alou. Okay, they had 81 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 4: a nice little squad, and then what happened they got 82 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:38,559 Speaker 4: to the finals. They changed their rotation, skipped them, Alou 83 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: not starting anymore less. Mer Nelson, who had played in 84 00:04:43,480 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: two months three three like he had, he was their guy. 85 00:04:47,720 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: I get it, but he hadn't played in like two 86 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 4: or three months. He got healthy ready to play in 87 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 4: the finals. They messed up everything that that team had going. 88 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 4: I would say, Jamia, you're a god. We got something. 89 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 4: I can't make that change. Skip to Malou was leading 90 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 4: that team as the point guard. 91 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: He's still upset about it to this day, to this day, 92 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,279 Speaker 1: and rightfully so Tho, cause you get you get the 93 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 1: team to the finals, and then you make a lineup change. 94 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 4: I'm just saying. I'm not saying the Texans aren't in 95 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 4: the super Bowl or whatever, and I'm not saying CJ. 96 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: Stroud's washed there and move on or Davis Mills is 97 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 4: taking his job and he can't get it back. I'm 98 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 4: waiting for David Davis Mills have a bad game. That's 99 00:05:33,600 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 4: what I'm waiting for, for him to go back, turn 100 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 4: into a pumpkin, and then I could go back to CJ. 101 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: Stroud after that. But I'm not making a change until 102 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 4: he plays poorly and the team loses. 103 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: You know what, I wanted to go crazy at you 104 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 1: because I thought, as you were setting it up, I 105 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:51,599 Speaker 1: didn't know how far you were going to go with this, 106 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: and I thought you were basically saying CJ. Stroud get 107 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,680 Speaker 1: out of here for the whole time. You know, like 108 00:05:56,720 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 1: basically no more. This is Davis Mills team. So I 109 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:00,680 Speaker 1: was ready to go crazy at you, but then you, 110 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: you brought it back down. I'll give you an example, 111 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: went them. Yeah, you're never going crazy. No, you want 112 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: me check out my text from everybody. Your boy, I 113 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: heard your boy. You know what I'm gonna give you. 114 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna even add to what you were saying. 115 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 1: Steve Berlin was that ninety one I think it was 116 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: ninety one playoffs if I'm not mistaken with the yep, yep, 117 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: it was Steve Berlin with the Cowboys. Comes in Troy 118 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 1: aik when it's Troy ak when we know what he's doing. 119 00:06:25,120 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: He's doing they're playing well, he gets injured. They have 120 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: been playing really well. Uh Berlin comes in. They were 121 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: playing okay, he gets some a list. They going to 122 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: run thing. They around like six something straight. They were 123 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: just all of a sudden playing great. The offense was vibing, 124 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: and they decided to go with him instead of Troy Aikman, 125 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: who got back healthy and Sosiut in the postseason, they 126 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: ultimately would lose, and and to this. 127 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 3: Day they debate that. 128 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: If you watch the Jerry Jones doc, you know they 129 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: still Troyik was still upset about it. Uh, Jimmy Johnson's 130 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: you know still Hey, I went with what I thought 131 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: to your point, I went with the hot guy. I 132 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,840 Speaker 1: want the guy that got us a bunch of wins. 133 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: So that's an example of of what your yeah. 134 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 4: And it's not to disrespect CJ or say, you know, 135 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 4: you lost your gig, you got hurt and you're out, 136 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 4: but I like what they have going. 137 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: The only reason why I'll challenge you is because they 138 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: started to get something going prior to CJ going down. 139 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,360 Speaker 1: So CJ was starting to get it going. We know, 140 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 1: the offensive line had been much beligned, they had not 141 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: been playing well, had him running for his life. But 142 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: then the last few games, CJ started to get it going. 143 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: So before the injury, he had a three to one record, 144 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: rob he had wins over the Ravens, the forty nine ers, 145 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: he had nine touchdown only two interceptions, and then they 146 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: were beating the Broncos before he went down with that concussion, 147 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 1: so that could have been maybe four and one, and 148 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: so they were starting to write the ship, starting to 149 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,880 Speaker 1: get this thing going. And again with a defense like that, 150 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: they were always in it. So if he were looking 151 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: like he were the end of last season beginning of 152 00:07:53,440 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: this season, I would totally get what you're saying, and 153 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: I would say, you know what, I can't really argue 154 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: with you. The only thing was to MEJ was starting 155 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 1: the ball and again nine touchdowns, two interceptions, three to 156 00:08:03,200 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: one record, they were rolling. He started to have pass 157 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: the ball will get more yard is the offense was 158 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: getting more explosive. 159 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 3: A lot of that was in that Baltimore game. No, 160 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: I'm talking about just other games as well. 161 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 4: So what I'm saying a lot a lot of a 162 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 4: lot of the nine touchdowns. 163 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:20,240 Speaker 1: Right, I mean, look at it. So you look at 164 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 1: the Niners game, which was right here. So he goes 165 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: thirty for thirty nine, three hundred and eighteen yards, two touchdowns. 166 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: I mean, he was playing very well. So this is 167 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,439 Speaker 1: the Baltimore game. He had two hundred and forty four 168 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 1: or four touchdowns. 169 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,960 Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. The boat of the four tds 170 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 4: is a big day. I don't know where was the 171 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: last time CJ. Stroud had four touchdowns maybe the rookie year, 172 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 4: you know what, jump on him. But my point was 173 00:08:47,200 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: he was getting it going. He was turning the corner. 174 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 4: The team was, So that's why I'm going back to him. 175 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:53,719 Speaker 1: I get what you were saying if this were the 176 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:55,679 Speaker 1: earlier part of the season, because you're look at the 177 00:08:55,720 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: beginning of the season. 178 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 3: For him, it was bad. 179 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: Zero touchdowns and an interception, only one hundred eighty yards 180 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: on hundred and seven yards touchdown, no interceptions, but it 181 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,839 Speaker 1: was still a loss. Another loss to the Jags, and 182 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: he had two hundred yards, a touchdown, two interceptions, You 183 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that beginning, if we were 184 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: sitting here and it was after that, I totally be 185 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: with you. But for me, it just changes because he 186 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,079 Speaker 1: was starting to play well. Three and one, nine touchdowns, 187 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: two inner steps. They were heading in the right direction. 188 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,680 Speaker 1: So it's his job to lose while playing not injured. 189 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 2: For me, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk 190 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: lineup in the nation. 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They had been playing, 224 00:10:42,640 --> 00:10:44,079 Speaker 1: starting to kind of pick it up a little bit 225 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: for themselves, and you know, obviously one of those teams 226 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 1: they're starting to get into that terrier turp. You gotta 227 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: show it, you gotta prove it. You've been good. We 228 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: know how good Josh Allen is. You got to prove it. 229 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: And it ain't got shalapped. Defensively last night. The defensive 230 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: the Texans played very very well, and you start to 231 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,079 Speaker 1: look at the stats a little bit for Josh Allen 232 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: and they were not great. First of all, most he's 233 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: ever been sacked in his career. Eight times he was sacked, 234 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: So that starts right there. The defense was going crazy 235 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: for the Texans. But what I started to see rob 236 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: is holding on the ball too long. Yes, well leads 237 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,440 Speaker 1: me to my point of this watching them in the conversation, 238 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: we've had a couple of time with the Bills. One 239 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: of the issues that I have with the Bills is 240 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:30,640 Speaker 1: that they are so Josh Allen reliant. He's two and 241 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 1: seven in games where he doesn't score a touchdown. You know, 242 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: It's like he has to do everything the game before last. 243 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:40,839 Speaker 1: Three touchdowns in the air, three touchdowns on the ground. 244 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: He's Superman. He's doing it all. And I'm gonna go 245 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 1: back to somebody who's always had his number. He has 246 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: his number in the regular season, Patrick Mahomes has his 247 00:11:48,120 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: in the postseason. We both sat here, and you know 248 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: I'll be sitting there right with you, agreeing. Patrick Mahomes 249 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: looked at the loft. The offense was off. He was 250 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: trying to make a lot happen. He was down a 251 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: lot of receivers. But one thing they could rely on 252 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: was that defense to keep him. Again, what have we 253 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: just been saying, I've been really screaming for the last year. 254 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: So the Texans defense keeps them in games where they 255 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:07,480 Speaker 1: got a chance to win it, at least they might lose, 256 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 1: at least they got a chance. 257 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 3: And the Bills don't have that. 258 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 1: Josh Allen doesn't have that luxury of the defense can 259 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 1: just take over for me. Who I was a little 260 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 1: off today, Turn it off, turn the ball over a 261 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:20,200 Speaker 1: little bit. He doesn't have that. The running game, James 262 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: Cook is talented. Had one hundred plus yards forty five 263 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: on one run. But they don't run the ball with him. 264 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,080 Speaker 1: You know, where we're gonna twenty five to thirty five rushes, 265 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: where we're gonna dominate the clock, We're gonna dominate the 266 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: line of screamings. 267 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 3: They don't do that. 268 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: And that's the concern to me, because if you talk 269 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: about the postseason, to win a Super Bowl, you're going 270 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: to have to win four games or three games, And 271 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that's fair to ask Josh Allen to 272 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: be Superman for four or three games straight. Because Patrick Mahomes, 273 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: you like to bring it up all the time he's 274 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: won super Bowls not playing that great. In fact, he 275 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: hasn't played great, and probably most of his Super Bowl 276 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: appearances he's been either mid or bad, maybe one exception 277 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: once or twice. Peyton Manning one of the greatest of 278 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: all time. Postseason ain't always that great. Super Bowls definitely 279 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: weren't always that great, but yet and still super Bowl winner, 280 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: postseason wins. 281 00:13:12,200 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: Tom Brady wasn't always the best. 282 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: And that's the thing with the Bills to me, they're 283 00:13:17,080 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: so that much is gonna be on the shoulders of 284 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: Josh Allen that that's not fair in order to make 285 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl run four games or three games if 286 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: you get a bye and you have to be spectacular 287 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: superman every single week, it's not fair. 288 00:13:29,440 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: It's not realistic. Most quarterbacks aren't. 289 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: When you look at their Super Bowl runs, they've had 290 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: games where they weren't that great. 291 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,719 Speaker 3: They have games will thank god the defense came through 292 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 3: for me. 293 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: They had games where, man, we just handed the ball 294 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,400 Speaker 1: off thirty five to forty times and got the job done. 295 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: So that's the one thing that worries me. Josh Allen 296 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 1: for the most part, has been spectacular throughout his career, 297 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: especially the last handful of seasons. But is that fair 298 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: to go into a postseas and say, all right, it's 299 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: all on you get it done for us. Yes? 300 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: Fair? 301 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 4: I thought he was the MVP last year. This is 302 00:13:57,679 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 4: what he does, right, So every time he loses, then 303 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 4: you go, will you do him any help? Is he 304 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 4: Lebron James? 305 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:05,800 Speaker 3: He don't. 306 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 4: But when he loses, it's too much to put on him. 307 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 4: But that's why he's the MVP because he gets running in. 308 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,839 Speaker 4: You just said he's the best dual threat quarterback in 309 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 4: the history of the National Football League. 310 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 3: So do your business. Win a championship. You're that good. 311 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 4: You're the driving force. I don't want to hear any excuses. 312 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 4: You won all these games, Rob G. Having the Bills 313 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 4: won the most games over the last four or five years, Like, seriously, 314 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: they've piled up the wins, they haven't won the big game. 315 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 4: So I don't want to hear it, come big time game, 316 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 4: that it's not fair that he has to win by 317 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 4: hisself and he don't have any help. 318 00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: How the hell did he win MVP with no help? 319 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 3: He was that good? 320 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 4: So now win the game, winning in the win the 321 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 4: big game doing that Superman. 322 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: Here's where that's That's all I'm saying. But here's where 323 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: that's that's not realistic. Wow, the regular season, how many 324 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: times we set up here, Rob G. We just talked 325 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:02,800 Speaker 1: about you. 326 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 3: Only gotta win three games to get to the super 327 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 3: to get to the super. 328 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: Bowl, right what, you're playing high caliber teams the regular 329 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: season if you're in the AFC East, just like he 330 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: has been dominating it, just like Tom Brady did, dominating 331 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:17,840 Speaker 1: you pretty much gott games. 332 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: Now you're poo poolling tom Brady's run. 333 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: And tom Brady absolutely had an easier run. Okay, I'm 334 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: just because he got six want to hear that. 335 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 3: Oh no, yeah, yea. 336 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: Before the season he went like this, he stretched put 337 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: on his helmet. Six and those guys Blake wants to 338 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: say always six and oh oh wet even took the 339 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: mild back. 340 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: Then all they had to do was win two games 341 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 3: to get to the super Bowl. Two. 342 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, and mind you, you know, usually you're six and 343 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: oh and there's always gonna be you know, you know, 344 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 1: every every season you get a division. So if they 345 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: give you the bump NFC South, for instance, it was 346 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:54,280 Speaker 1: never really you know, had bum seasons. Then you get 347 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: the NMC SYL. All right, we gonna win at least 348 00:15:55,960 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: three for them. Now you ten and one, as off 349 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: the off the bat, you're already a really good team. 350 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: You already got a good system, of good program, you know, 351 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: a good good organization. But we already started off ten 352 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: and ouht ten and one. So I say that to say, 353 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 1: sometimes you get you just beat your division, you beat 354 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: some bad teams, you get to a postseason. Now everybody 355 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: is at least good, if not good to great. That's 356 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: why I need some help. That's why I need to 357 00:16:17,480 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 1: lean on the defense. That's why I need to leave 358 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:20,760 Speaker 1: on a run. That's why I need to leave maybe 359 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: an offensive schematics that can, you know, manipulate things, not 360 00:16:25,000 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: just say all right, did. 361 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: You see last night they read? They always rant five 362 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: times a row. 363 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: Josh Hellen, here you go, run it again, run it again, 364 00:16:32,280 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 1: run it again, run it again. Man if y'all don't 365 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,880 Speaker 1: come up with something else, and that's why they look bad, 366 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 1: you know again, when a team can just say, all right, 367 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:43,640 Speaker 1: we shut him down, that's a rap. Patrick Mahomes last season, 368 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: some other teams defense is said, Tom Brady, we talk 369 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: We talked about the start on the first half, the 370 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 1: first three or four of them seven rings for him. 371 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: He was relying on special teams and defense. I'll make 372 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: a couple of plays here there out of special teams. 373 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: Adam vine Terry one of the greatest all time. I'm 374 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: gonna get you down there, winn this for me. 375 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 4: I'll tell you that Adam Vinitarry could have missed two 376 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 4: kicks and you wouldn't even be talking about Tom Brady 377 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 4: like that. 378 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: I doubt I don't have an argument to rams totally change. Seriously, 379 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 1: the Panthers, I mean he had a handful of those. Yeah, yeah, 380 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean that Panthers Super Bowl. Nobody remembers that was lit. 381 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: The kicker kicked the ball out of bound, set him 382 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: up at the forty couple of pass and then they 383 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 1: kicked it and they lost the Super Bowl. 384 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 3: Yep. 385 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:27,400 Speaker 1: So again, but that's part of the game. So that's 386 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: that's just my thing. I just think for Josh Allen, 387 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: I know he has to be like man. I can't 388 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: have to do again her two and seven if he 389 00:17:35,800 --> 00:17:38,880 Speaker 1: doesn't score a touchdown. Like there's plenty of quarterbacks who 390 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: win games. They don't have to score a touchdown because again, 391 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: defense came through offense. Maybe you know, I made a 392 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: few plays I just didn't score as a touchdown. He's 393 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: two and seven, like he They are all lining up 394 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: in him, and they've known this now for a handful 395 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: of seasons, which is why organizationally, rob I thought by 396 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,440 Speaker 1: now they would be remedying that by now, and they 397 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: have it. 398 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: So you're saying he's not gonna win a Super Bowl. 399 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 3: He's not not this year. No, I'm and I'm just saying. 400 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: Not this year. I can meeting next year. They might 401 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden come back with a Texans type deef. 402 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you then this season, They're not gonna 403 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: You can't do that. You can't say for four or 404 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: three games, be superman. You can't be mad. You know, 405 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,959 Speaker 1: quarterbacks been mad in the postseason, you know, I mean 406 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 1: he won Super Bowls and Patrick Rowles might go down 407 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,360 Speaker 1: to the greatest, one of the greatest, top two three 408 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,119 Speaker 1: and he has not looks techlar in postseason games in. 409 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 3: The playoffs for on all sports. 410 00:18:26,720 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: We've seen that, right in Beads Nothing James balling out 411 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 1: of his mind getting that postseason. 412 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 4: Dodgers just went up, just won a World Series. Show, Hey, 413 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 4: Mookie and Freddie didn't hit. 414 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: Go look at it. 415 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: No, I know that they not average like what three 416 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:45,040 Speaker 1: runs of games and right, they didn't hit and they 417 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 1: still won a World Series. I'm put that my point. 418 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: The pitching was there, right, you had some time, he 419 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: had some other elements to it. You had great guys 420 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: coming off the bench. That's my point. You need other elements. 421 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: You can't judge what you're gonna do. Judge can you 422 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: get it done every single week, every single week in 423 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 1: the postseason, of all the times of season. That's too 424 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: hard to do. 425 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 426 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:10,480 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 427 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 2: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 428 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: listen live. 429 00:19:16,240 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 3: Rob g we got a big game this coming Sunday. 430 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,800 Speaker 5: Oh, that's an understatement. It is the game of the 431 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 5: century settled. Are you kidding right now? 432 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: Everybody in there? 433 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: Uncle, We're talking Super Bowl Sunday level television ratios coming 434 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 5: up this Sunday. 435 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 1: They should have flexed it Manday night, Sunday night. 436 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 5: You should have made this Sunday night. I care about 437 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 5: Bucks Rams. Let me get Shador Sanders in his NFL debut. 438 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 5: Take it on Geno Smith and the Las Vegas Raiders. 439 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Raiders four. 440 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:53,200 Speaker 5: Point home favorites in the game that we're expecting fireworks. No, 441 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 5: we're not. This is gonna be a tough game. It's 442 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 5: gonna be a rough watch for everybody. 443 00:19:56,119 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 2: It is. 444 00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 5: No one's gonna enjoy it. In fact, leading up to 445 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 5: this game Fox sports dot Com, he's some great work 446 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 5: over there. Talk to several anonymous scouts to get their 447 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,200 Speaker 5: thoughts on Shador leading into Sunday's game. 448 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 3: Kelvin, here we go. This This ain't the fanboys. 449 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 4: These are the scout to work in the National Football Yeah, 450 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 4: and for the most part, they all said, Hey, that 451 00:20:21,040 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 4: was an absolutely terrible debut for sixteen. 452 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 3: You know, it was rough. 453 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,960 Speaker 5: He's gonna be better next week. Don't judge him just 454 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:33,280 Speaker 5: on that game. However, One scout said, Shadeur look quote 455 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:37,159 Speaker 5: uncomfortable and jumpy, more so than any other quarterback he's 456 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 5: evaluated in their debut. Another scout said, everybody's expecting him 457 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 5: to bounce back, you know, because he's gonna have a 458 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 5: week to prepare, so we should be better. This scout says, 459 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,919 Speaker 5: I'm not so sure about that because he didn't prepare 460 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,160 Speaker 5: for the draft process, So how are we sure he's 461 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 5: gonna put that kind of effort leading into this game 462 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 5: here on Sunday against the Raiders. 463 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 1: I ain't like that. That was cool with the first cup. 464 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 1: I ain't like that. I ain't like that one bit. 465 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 1: See now you're about to go make me be go 466 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: get the the Barry Sanders jersey that's supposed to be 467 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:09,000 Speaker 1: Chaudu jersey. 468 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 2: Ye go. 469 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: I know. 470 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 4: Was I heard of Dan patrick uh promo promo? What 471 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 4: he said about the people in the media who are 472 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 4: carrying Dion and Chador's water. I mean, yeah, I like that. 473 00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:22,760 Speaker 3: Thank you. 474 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: I bet you due all right, Chadure. There are a 475 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,640 Speaker 1: lot of people carrying their water again. I can't wait 476 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: for the thirty for thirty to come out, Shador Sanders. 477 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: This is how I feel you, Shadure, go into this game. 478 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 1: You are absolutely auditioning for thirty two teams, Yes, thirty two, 479 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: because you're even auditioning for Cleveland, which I think is 480 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: probably the least of your opportunities. I think he is 481 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:47,240 Speaker 1: auditioning because you got to go into this game prepared. 482 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 3: Obviously, you people are watching. 483 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 1: People have questioned your preparedness and how you know, how 484 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 1: you go about it. Some people are giving you the 485 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,920 Speaker 1: benefit of doubt. Hey got thrust in there. Some people 486 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 1: are saying it doesn't matter. You're supposed to be ready, 487 00:21:57,920 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: so you know all eyes are gonna be watching it. 488 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 3: The game on paper is a terrible game. Dylan kills me. 489 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: But what about about not being ready? You're a backup. 490 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 4: Guess what your job is to be ready? It's to 491 00:22:09,680 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 4: be ready. 492 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,439 Speaker 1: But when we've had we've had people come out and say, oh, 493 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 1: you're supposed to get summer. Some people haven't said you're 494 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: not supposed to get done. So you come into this 495 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 1: one all I know is all eyes are on you 496 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: and fast. 497 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 4: So Kurt Warner said, the backup didn't get any reps 498 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: When I was the number one, I wanted all the reps, right. 499 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, but you're also MVP, you get it. 500 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying so it's not as uncommon because 501 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 4: because you see Rex Ryan and he'll go there and goes, 502 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 4: this is strange, like you know, he's making it like 503 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,919 Speaker 4: something's going on, and he and he never heard of 504 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 4: a backup. 505 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,359 Speaker 1: And that's why I said it something, because you know 506 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: we've heard something come out. 507 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:47,879 Speaker 3: I texted a couple of folks. 508 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: Ephraim Salam was one of the said yeah, we would 509 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,400 Speaker 1: give him a few a few reps throughout the week 510 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 1: just to keep Dan Olowski was on the set. He said, no, 511 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: I was there for years. I not get any reps. 512 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: So everybody's gonna be watching more than the Browns Raiders 513 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 1: warrants for sure, but everybody's gonna be watching to see 514 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: because it's either gonna be hoping he does well. You 515 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 1: can be hoping he does bad, but everybody's gonna be watching. 516 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 3: Hoping that he does bad. Did you want me to 517 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 3: call you by name? 518 00:23:11,760 --> 00:23:14,680 Speaker 1: No, I don't know a lot of people prop don't 519 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: do that. You know he's polarizing. Don't do that. Nobody said, 520 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: what are you talk snuck frod Park, don't play with 521 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,000 Speaker 1: me right now? It's a Friday. We'd have made it 522 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,160 Speaker 1: through the week and show us him. 523 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 3: Don't play with me? Who's rooting from the mail? 524 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 1: I wish I knew the eighty five million people who 525 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: are by name, so I can tell you. So I 526 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,680 Speaker 1: just have to give you a number. Can't called sports 527 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 1: is polarizing. Some people watch Patrick Mahomes and hope he 528 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,080 Speaker 1: people watch Lloyd May whether to get his head knocked 529 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: off or to knock somebody else's head off. That's what 530 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 1: sports is. A lot of times, fifth rown draft, Stop it, Rob. 531 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: You're gonna be sitting there with baby oil. If he 532 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: goes and throws four interceptions and only gets eighty yards, 533 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: I'm calling off on Monday if that happens. 534 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 3: Ain't nobody gonna hear what you got to say. 535 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:03,920 Speaker 1: So anyway, he's auditioning for every other team in his NFL. 536 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: If you gotta think the Browns will look for an 537 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: opportunity to trade him, and he's kind of in a 538 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: lose lose situation where if he plays well, Rob Parker 539 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 1: on Monday. 540 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 3: Is gonna say this. 541 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 1: Let me tell you what Rob Parker's social dur wins 542 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,959 Speaker 1: the game, they win by seven. He's gonna have two 543 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 1: hundred and eighty five yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions. 544 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:25,400 Speaker 3: And here's what Rob Parker's gonna say. It's the Raiders. 545 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: They call him General Hospital because sick people come and 546 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 1: get better. 547 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 3: It's the Raders. Rob g doesn't even watch the Raiders. 548 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 3: He's a Raiders fan. 549 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: That's easy. I could throw three touchdowns against the Raiders. 550 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: He loses and throws three interceptions. 551 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 3: I told you he's a bomb. 552 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: What are you? 553 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: His debut was a day But. 554 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: You're laughing because you know it's the truth. So he's 555 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: in a lose lose situation. He plays well, it's the Raiders. 556 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: He's supposed to plays like terrible. I knew he wants more. 557 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 1: That's why he's a fifth round. Go out there, play 558 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: your best, do well and know that other teams are 559 00:25:02,800 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: watching and they're willing to give up a fifth round 560 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: and go ahead and get traded to go somewhere. 561 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 3: Okay, here's the thing. 562 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 4: Yes, if he plays the everybody else has beat the 563 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 4: Raiders like a drum. Seriously, if he plays poor league, 564 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 4: fumbles a couple of interceptions, holds on to the ball 565 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:23,480 Speaker 4: for sacks, what will be the excuse, Seriously, because it 566 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,360 Speaker 4: can't be got a week with the with the number one, 567 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,680 Speaker 4: then it will be he doesn't have any weapons, or 568 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 4: Stefanski doesn't want him to succeed, or the offensive line 569 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 4: like at some point, like I used to say, with 570 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 4: Justin Fields, you can't be on three different teams and 571 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 4: different coaches and different offensive coordinators and different offensive lines, 572 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 4: and it's always something, well if he was, if he's 573 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,000 Speaker 4: on this scene, well it ain't fair because Justin Fields 574 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 4: and the Bears they've never had a quarterback. Well, well, 575 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:56,320 Speaker 4: you can't blame him because the Jets they always think, 576 00:25:56,359 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 4: no matter who the like, at some point, right yeah, 577 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,880 Speaker 4: at some point you have to play better. And that's 578 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: all I'm saying. He completed his first two passes and 579 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 4: then went two for fourteen. 580 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 3: Here's my counter to that. Rap. That's it. 581 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: That would be officially what one and a half games, 582 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 1: give or take for him. If he does what you're said, well, 583 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: then we gotta get rid of JJ McCarthy because he 584 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: didn't have five six games and a whole year last 585 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: year just to be there, be on the team, learning offense, 586 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: be you know, you just be with the organization. 587 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,080 Speaker 3: And he lives like a bomm at times. There's a difference. 588 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 4: So my point is no, no, no, I'm gonna stop you 589 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 4: because what you're doing is the classic comparing a guy 590 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 4: who was drafted in the first round compared to a 591 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 4: guy who's in the fifth round. And there's a huge 592 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,400 Speaker 4: difference on why Baker Mayfield got another chance, on why 593 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 4: Sam Darnold got another chance. 594 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 3: Because they were first round picks. 595 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 4: So they are always going to get where somebody feels 596 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 4: like they can get another thing. If he fails this 597 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 4: year and doesn't play well, it might be, yeah, he 598 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 4: could play in the league and be a backup or 599 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 4: third string quarterback. It ain't automatic that he's going to 600 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 4: get shador and automatic he's gonna get a first a 601 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: starting job, is what I'm saying. Whereas those guys, despite 602 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: them stumbling and having some issues, were first round of 603 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,680 Speaker 4: talent evaluators, and they look at people I'm saying what 604 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 4: I'm saying the same. JJ was the tenth pick, what 605 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 4: was he tent and Shad was a fifth round JJ 606 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 4: has way more rope to develop than than Chaudor. 607 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: By the way, Chaudor looked better as a passer in 608 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: college than what you beat in college. 609 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 3: Can you give him name? Name the team he beating? Car? 610 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: He had a losing record in Car Who he beat? 611 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,760 Speaker 3: Who did he be? He was winning games? In Colorado? 612 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 3: They had a losing record. 613 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,040 Speaker 1: He has a losing winn Who did he? 614 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 5: I don't know who. 615 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 3: I don't know. Colorado's schedule, they'd be one school right one? 616 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 3: And what was TCU? We found out later on? What 617 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 3: do we find out? Rob g They were gazing, they 618 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 3: were gauge. 619 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,480 Speaker 4: They were coming off being in the National championship game, right, 620 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 4: So when they beat them, that's when everybody went Colorado crazy. 621 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,080 Speaker 2: Oh my god, you didn't believe. 622 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 3: You didn't believe. You can't ask me question. He was 623 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 3: talking about do you believe? And then that's my boy 624 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 3: out damn telling you, why not, my boy? Do you believe? 625 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: And then and then all we're out here playing darn football. 626 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 3: He loves a good darn And then and then all 627 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 3: of a sudden, all those people were flying in. 628 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: Everybody even at your boy was there Steven was there 629 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: on the side, and Colorado's and all that, and. 630 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 4: And they were doing concerts with Lil Wayne before before 631 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 4: the game. 632 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 3: All that sound like it sounded like a good old 633 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,160 Speaker 3: time rob g. What happened to that? In the second half, 634 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 3: they just didn't even show up. They stopped. 635 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 1: All I know is the Chador led Buffalo's one what 636 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: six or seven eight games that year? They won one 637 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:11,640 Speaker 1: before they got there. Okay, that's all I know. That's 638 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: all I'm saying. Be one ranked opponent, and that it 639 00:29:14,360 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: is Colorado. They ain't playing, you know, an insane schedule. No, 640 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:21,360 Speaker 1: but they're not an SEC. But he had a losing record, 641 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,000 Speaker 1: they were timing. 642 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 4: Can you imagine a quarterback with a losing record having 643 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: their number retired? 644 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 3: This mat Colorado. That's my boggling. Then you acting like 645 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 3: they got some he was. 646 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: He had a winning record, first of all, for don't 647 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: disrespect what why I'm glad I'm here? Had a losing record. 648 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: He was thirteen and twelve at Colorado. Take that for data. 649 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,520 Speaker 3: Are you adding in how many bowl games? 650 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:48,320 Speaker 1: And he was thirteen and toy They started off four 651 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: and eight, he was nine and four the next year. 652 00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 5: Take that for data, Hey, Rob, who they came to 653 00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:52,800 Speaker 5: Williams be in college? 654 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 3: I want to know. Now that's a real one. He 655 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 3: at seed t. 656 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 5: Was a Heisman trophy sports got a short That's why 657 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 5: he was to be even. 658 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,600 Speaker 1: He was a Heisman who was supposed to beat some 659 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 1: people at USC with Lincoln Riley, the man offensive guru. 660 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: You two years. He ain't doing nothing. 661 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 4: You asked Lincoln Roley who he's beat Because he's beating nobody. 662 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: Caleb william They ain't even went bar from barb with 663 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: Caleb so compromised right now, he's like, not only am 664 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: I Caleb guy got the jingle, but I also worked 665 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: for USC. 666 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 5: Don't you question about that? 667 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 3: Right now? 668 00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 4: You know I am no company man. I've never been 669 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 4: a company man, usc. 670 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,760 Speaker 5: Hey, Rob Aaron Jude druck out for the fourth time 671 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 5: to that. 672 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 3: What do you think? 673 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 5: Well, it's you know, it's a tough game. 674 00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,239 Speaker 1: Good pitching over there, Cayleb Williams, all that talent, all 675 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: that u us. He ain't do nothing. That's Lincoln Roley's problem. 676 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah whatever, No, my heisman winning quarter but it is 677 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: part