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Speaker 1: I'm gonnaet straight into its brothers. I don't want to

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Speaker 2: Now people visiting visit you on the eye. You know

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Speaker 4: We need people brave enough to go against it, right,

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Speaker 4: The problem in hip hop is people still haven't evolved

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Speaker 4: God take for that, God, I try to advocate.

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Speaker 1: When okay, sometimes you call it hippo hypocritical, right, I believe.

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Speaker 4: It's definitely possible to narrate with a magnifying glass without glorifying. Right.

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Speaker 4: That's my point is that God.

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Speaker 5: I've been waiting since twenty ten to meet so to

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Speaker 5: But the point you made about at thematic I feel

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Speaker 5: I always felt that Ready to Die was a conscious album. Wow,

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Speaker 5: because Big was talking about what he was conscious.

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Speaker 5: I never looked at it like, hey, just when you

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Speaker 1: He's dealing with mental health, he's dealing.

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Speaker 5: With suicide, he's dealing with how he did his wife.

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Speaker 5: But he's dealing with all these things that come with

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Speaker 5: most detrimental terms I think to hip hop culture is

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Speaker 5: But we're kind of more than the characters we create,

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Speaker 4: know their purpose, right. And when I say they purpose,

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Speaker 4: they think their purpose is just make money.

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Speaker 2: By any means necessary.

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Speaker 4: It's two things. This story changed my life. I was

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Speaker 4: it's different. I'm teacher middle school. One of my students

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Speaker 4: He said because his favorite rapper, Lil Wayne, has that

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Speaker 5: I told Wayne, the name is the Carter. Wow yeah,

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Speaker 4: In his life. He said it in his music. I

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Speaker 2: People you killed in your life?

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Speaker 4: Silence, he ain't say nothing, right, silent as a mouse

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Speaker 4: Nothing nothing. I realized that this dude was afraid to

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Speaker 4: God was thinking. Man, I look lame if I say

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Speaker 1: I'm not blaming the whole city and not blaming everybody,

440
00:20:57,520 --> 00:21:00,119
Speaker 1: you know, it was a big part about this. Let

441
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,840
Speaker 1: me take you something I had never really seen people

442
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:06,560
Speaker 1: like claim murder, like like like you know, when I

443
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,000
Speaker 1: when I first time I went to the New Orleans.

444
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,199
Speaker 2: Just seeing mausoleums messed me up.

445
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,160
Speaker 1: Like it's like you know when you're in New York,

446
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:14,879
Speaker 1: you know you got to kind of like go to

447
00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,520
Speaker 1: the cemeteries like to see it, like you can see

448
00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,359
Speaker 1: mausoleums like like yeah, like yeah, like that shit was

449
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:22,800
Speaker 1: scary to me, Like you know what I'm saying. And

450
00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:26,360
Speaker 1: then not only that, it's like y'all celebrate death. Yeah,

451
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,879
Speaker 1: they have a different relation. So like when that was

452
00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 1: the murder capital, when y'all was the murder capital, I

453
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 1: was number one in.

454
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 2: New Orleans, Brod. I was out there all the time.

455
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:36,919
Speaker 2: I knew I had to be careful.

456
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 1: Bro I knew I had to It was a certain things,

457
00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 1: but I had people out there, but still, and I

458
00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:45,359
Speaker 1: had never seen people a city, a whole city like

459
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: glor for Murder.

460
00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 2: I went to see ce Murder in the projects. Bro

461
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,240
Speaker 2: I went to see him like.

462
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:56,400
Speaker 1: I was like, he's bug. Because you got to feel

463
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 1: like God bless me for saying this that I love

464
00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: New Orleans because because they embraced me in a lot

465
00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: of latinos in the New Orleans, Like when I was

466
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: going there, I got to fill up those spirits, Like

467
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: those spirits are are dead souls like still still linking

468
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: around and in the in the project project, it wasn't

469
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: just a mausoleums in the cemetery like when I walked

470
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 1: into Calio. When I walked in the get the monks

471
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 1: the living. That's oh damn, man, thank you for thank

472
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: you for Come on man, that ship, that ship fucked

473
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,399
Speaker 1: me up. The death amongst the living is Louisiana culture

474
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,880
Speaker 1: having that relationship.

475
00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 2: Yes to death. Let me tell y'all something, man.

476
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 4: The first time I ever felt like a hypocrite in

477
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 4: my life, my best friend got murdered.

478
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,920
Speaker 2: He got killed. We grew up wanting to be just

479
00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 2: like the hot boys, just like him.

480
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,640
Speaker 4: Right, So when I saw my best friend turning into

481
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 4: a gangsta in real life, really jumping off the poach,

482
00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,959
Speaker 4: really committing these crimes, really living it. And then eventually

483
00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 4: he got murdered, right I at his funeral, I'm a

484
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 4: Paul bearer.

485
00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:52,360
Speaker 2: I'm crying at the funeral.

486
00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 4: But when I get in the car after the funeral,

487
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,520
Speaker 4: the music that I already had on in rotation was

488
00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 4: music glorifying murder. And for the first first time, with

489
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 4: tears in my eyes, I felt like a hypocrite. I froze,

490
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,520
Speaker 4: I respect that, and I said, I'm mourning the death

491
00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,680
Speaker 4: of my friend, but I have an appetite for music

492
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 4: that glorifies death.

493
00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 2: Lord, have mercy. Something has to change.

494
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 4: And how old were you all? When I was twenty

495
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 4: three years old? I had just graduated college. I was

496
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,359
Speaker 4: a middle school teacher, and I was trying to figure

497
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 4: out do I want to be a rapper? Because my

498
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 4: student just got a tattoo to say mob money over

499
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 4: because his favorite rapper, Lil Wayne got it. So I'm like,

500
00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 4: if I really want to be influential, maybe I need

501
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 4: to become a rapper. But then, if I'm going to

502
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 4: be a rapper, am I gonna make it? Nobody ever

503
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,399
Speaker 4: made it from New Orleans with a positive message, putting

504
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:39,840
Speaker 4: God first, talking about being educated. So in my head,

505
00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 4: I'm at an intersection. What am I gonna do? And

506
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 4: now when that happened, that feeling of hypocrisy made me say, nah, man,

507
00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 4: I want to elevate without compromising. The rewards of fame

508
00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: and fortune ain't worth it. If I'm just putting a

509
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:56,440
Speaker 4: message out there, that's poisoning my people.

510
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: Bro.

511
00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 2: And That's how I felt. Why do we cry when

512
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,640
Speaker 2: rappers die, we love when.

513
00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 4: They glorifyed murder when they're alive. Why do we say

514
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 4: that we love one another then turn around and backstab

515
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 4: by our brother Why do we claim that we cherish

516
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 4: our sisters then disrespect them and call them all? You

517
00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 4: feel me?

518
00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 2: Yeah?

519
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:15,600
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

520
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 2: I thought I had to wrestle with them type of thoughts.

521
00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: Bro, Like, I'm gonna be honest. I lived in Miami

522
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 1: now seventeen years. That live in Miami seventeen years, and

523
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,800
Speaker 1: I can't I can't smell the script club right now.

524
00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: I can't go to a strip club like it's just

525
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 1: outgre that shit. But but I'm no, I'm trying to imded.

526
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: My mind has been recruited, you know what I'm saying.

527
00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:49,280
Speaker 1: But now I asks me, yo, man, I'm gonna have

528
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 1: a birthday party and I'm gonna have it at the

529
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: strip club.

530
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:54,399
Speaker 2: Am I wrong for going to see him at the

531
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: strip club? I'm asking?

532
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 4: And I haven't been in the one now, I believe,

533
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 4: like seven years for sure, because you.

534
00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: Could be like, how I love you?

535
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,520
Speaker 4: But that environment right there, that environment isn't reflective of

536
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 4: my current value system. And that's okay. I'm speaking this

537
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 4: because I lived through this. I never told this story before. Okay,

538
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,840
Speaker 4: bro I was fresh out of being a middle school teacher,

539
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 4: trying to get on. I had somebody who was really, really,

540
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 4: really topping in the business world who I wanted to

541
00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 4: be my manager. He said, come out to Atlanta. We're

542
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 4: gonna have a business meeting. Me and my partner drive

543
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 4: from New Orleans driving my nineteen ninety eight hindleg cord

544
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 4: to Atlanta, Georgia. We're going to have a business meeting

545
00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 4: with this big manager. When we get out there, he said,

546
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,240
Speaker 4: hop in the call with me. We're getting a Bentley.

547
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,960
Speaker 4: You heard me, he said, yeah, we're Finnah. Go have

548
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,800
Speaker 4: a meeting at this strip club Magia City. I don't

549
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 4: remember which one, right, So watch this. I'm like, oh, shoot,

550
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 4: I ain't never been to the strip club before, right,

551
00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,040
Speaker 4: And I'm not necessarily trying to go to the strip club.

552
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,399
Speaker 4: But at that time, I'm trying to be successful and

553
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,679
Speaker 4: I'm trying to get on. So in my head I'm conflicted.

554
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 4: Do I go to an environment that's not reflective of

555
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 4: my value system? Or do I ignore the environment and

556
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,920
Speaker 4: say I'm trying to have this meeting. So I go

557
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 4: to the strip club for the first time in life.

558
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 4: When I'm in there, I'm like this, you know what

559
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,360
Speaker 4: I'm saying. I'm like, I'm like, yo, I really trying

560
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 4: to partake in what's going on, right, but it's all

561
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 4: around me. So the first strip of it come up,

562
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 4: but I wasn't really covering my eyes by the way,

563
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 4: but I was just like, I was like, all right, yeah,

564
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 4: I'm with your heart. Then, so one of the strippers

565
00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 4: come over to me, and I turned into the dude

566
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 4: that's like, hey, baby, what you're doing? Heah, you got

567
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,639
Speaker 4: you got so much more potential year, tell me your story.

568
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,200
Speaker 4: So next thing I know, she's telling me her story.

569
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 4: I just had a new bond. I really don't want

570
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 4: to be in here, but I come from a broken

571
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 4: family and this is fast.

572
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: Money, you know.

573
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 4: So I'm like wow, I'm like, they got the ones

574
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 4: all around. I'm thinking I actually need these ones, not

575
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 4: to throw at her booty, these ones for gas money

576
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:53,680
Speaker 4: to get back to me. What I need these. So

577
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,760
Speaker 4: I'm thinking I'm like, all right, cool, I'm not going

578
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,080
Speaker 4: to throw these ones at her. That's going into gas tank.

579
00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 4: But what I am going to do is on a

580
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 4: friendship with her. I'm proud to see the years later. Man,

581
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 4: she hit me up on Instagram D one, I'm not

582
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 4: stripping no more. I remember that conversation we had.

583
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: Okay, but hold on.

584
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 1: Around the club man, Why did it take so long? Yeah?

585
00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: I had a rebuttal because now, like I said, I'm

586
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: born to raise in New York City, right.

587
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,640
Speaker 4: I used to come visit out here, but I wouldn't.

588
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: I wasn't.

589
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't visit out here. I would just be doing

590
00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 1: every day that they doing. I never really lived out here.

591
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: But when I when I started to live out here,

592
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 1: I realized that this is a part of their culture.

593
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 2: Like some people.

594
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I'm not taking up for the strip club people, but

595
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,040
Speaker 1: some people they don't look at the girls. They go,

596
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: they smoke some bud, They probably throw a little thing,

597
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 1: but this is their environment. Like I had never seen

598
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: that in New York. Like, if you went to the

599
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: strip club, you were corny in New York at one point.

600
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: If you threw money, you were even cornier. If you

601
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: ate at the strip club, you are super corner. You

602
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 1: used the bathroom there, Oh my god. It was all

603
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: that was tap on to me. Then I came out

604
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 1: here for the first week. I broke every fucking rule

605
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 1: I did because I became my environment was out here,

606
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: because remember I wasn't living out here, you know what

607
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm saying, So, like, what do you say to the

608
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: guy that you know his father's father brought him to

609
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:24,720
Speaker 1: the strip club? You know what I mean. It's a

610
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: generational thing out here in Atlanta. That's why you're going

611
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,359
Speaker 1: against I said to do on the island. But you

612
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:33,640
Speaker 1: see people visiting. But what you say to the people

613
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: that in Miami, like their father's father's father was at

614
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: the strip club. They don't look at it like how

615
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: you look. They don't look at it like the rogatory woman.

616
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 1: Because I got another part of that. But what do

617
00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: you say to that guy?

618
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 4: I said, if I have a white friend and he's

619
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,640
Speaker 4: like my father's father's father used to lynch sleeves, do

620
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: you want that's what that was my father's father's father.

621
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 2: That's me.

622
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: That's great.

623
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 4: To say that.

624
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 1: And you said, I ain't feel none of my black friends,

625
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 1: are you?

626
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 2: I would expect him to be like, heck, yeah, I

627
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 2: ain't finna do none of that.

628
00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: You feel, yes, I agree with you about that now

629
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: analysis because because there's not all negative stories that's attached

630
00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: to the strip club. What about this one girl that

631
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: has nothing? She has absolutely nothing. She her father, she

632
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 1: has no fault off good, she has no father, she

633
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: has no uh no moms, she has nothing. And then

634
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,959
Speaker 1: she goes the strip and she's you know you ever,

635
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:29,360
Speaker 1: I see you even been in the strip clubs.

636
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: But there's always that one.

637
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: Girl that really is paying college tuition. They saying that,

638
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: and they really paying college tuition. They really like you

639
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean, they really about their life. They're

640
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 1: not voted in nobody on the side, but this is

641
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: this is what they feel like. This is their only lifestyle.

642
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 1: What do you say to that? And then she makes

643
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: it and she goes she like that girl that you're

644
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: talking about.

645
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: She makes it, but she's not denouncing what she did

646
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: on how she got there.

647
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,360
Speaker 4: Like there's no first grader in this world right now

648
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 4: who says, mommy, I want to grow up and be

649
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 4: a stripper. So eventually financial hardship gets the best of.

650
00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 1: People and they resort to stripping.

651
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 4: Okay, So what I would say is that as men,

652
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 4: we got to step up to the plate and be like, yo,

653
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 4: we need to stop taking advantage of women who are

654
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,240
Speaker 4: in a financial hard situation to say, oh, yeah, I

655
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 4: can help you financially, but in return, you gotta get naked.

656
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: On that pole and buzz it open for me.

657
00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,719
Speaker 4: I feel like that's out for add all these rappers

658
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 4: who brag so much on how much money they blow

659
00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 4: in the strip club. If you really respected women, you'll

660
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 4: be willing to spend that same amount of money to

661
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 4: give her another means of employment.

662
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I push all right, yeah, so balance. I

663
00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 5: don't do the strip club. I've been the strip clubs

664
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:41,160
Speaker 5: yet I don't really enjoy the environment.

665
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:41,760
Speaker 2: Right.

666
00:30:42,040 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 5: However, I do understand that when you go to different places,

667
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,960
Speaker 5: not just here, around the world, culture is different. I

668
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 5: had to be educated come down here to South Florida,

669
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 5: where it's hot all the time, and that people are

670
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 5: scantily dressed. Women are scantily dressed because that's just what

671
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 5: the weather colls for. If you knew to that, you

672
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 5: might be like, oh, ship got with people who grew.

673
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: Up around this.

674
00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 1: It's Miami people.

675
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 2: It's nothing.

676
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 1: It's just it's just not the same thing.

677
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 5: Unfortunately, because of the world we live in, the sexuality uh,

678
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 5: there are one year olds whose goal is to be

679
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: strippers one year first first grader disagreed.

680
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: I mean, unfotunly.

681
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 5: It might be rare occasions, it might be exceptions to

682
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 5: the rule, but I've seen stories of first grader, second grader,

683
00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 5: third graders looking up to their mommy, mommy's on the

684
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 5: pole and they mommy, mommy, I want to get up

685
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 5: on the pole. I saw a snoop not too long ago.

686
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 5: He had a strip on the stage, strip on the stage,

687
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 5: and the kid, the baby was on the stage. Anybody

688
00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 5: was cussing them out. Homegirl was like the stripper was like,

689
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 5: that's my child. Unfortunately, what time out?

690
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:49,720
Speaker 4: Hurt child?

691
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 1: I didn't see this guy everything to.

692
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 5: Show, you know, he bring the strippers out, and homegirl

693
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 5: was on the pole and the baby baby might have

694
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 5: been like, I don't know, seven eight spa six seven eight,

695
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 5: And the baby was on the stage, not stripping, just

696
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 5: on the stage watching mommy. So everybody was criticized and

697
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:11,680
Speaker 5: Snoop for having that go down and criticizing a young

698
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 5: lady for stripping. Homegirl was like, that's my child, right

699
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 5: that said, Unfortunately, American capitalism breeds exploitation in all of

700
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 5: its forms. Sex industry is American capitalism, exploiting the sexual

701
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 5: nature for human beings.

702
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: It's just is what it is.

703
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 5: There's a market for it, there's money to be made.

704
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 5: It's the American culture that breeds that, not so much

705
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 5: hip hop culture. It's just that whatever you do to

706
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 5: American culture, black people are gonna put.

707
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: It on ten. You know what I read on the

708
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 1: comments with Big Bank, and I believe Big Banks said

709
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: this to you. That's his name, right, Big Yeah? Yeah cool.

710
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 4: Why does it feel like you just critiquing your people?

711
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: I know I want you to answer this, Yeah, yeah,

712
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: I was about to respond to.

713
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 4: Listen, brother person, nobody is bigger than the program. American

714
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 4: culture is not the end all be all of this world.

715
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 4: It's not, nor is black culture, nor is white culture,

716
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: nor is hip hop culture. It's God. That's the start

717
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 4: and that's the end. You heard me, that's the outpha,

718
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 4: that's the old Mega. So with that being said, I

719
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 4: don't care what any culture is doing. I'm not loyal

720
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 4: to it if it's going against what the word of

721
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 4: God says. So that is why it's easy for me

722
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 4: to say, oh, d one, why are you bucking the system?

723
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 4: Are you just trying to be different? No, The problem

724
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 4: is that being different it's looked at as a bad thing.

725
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 4: But sometimes being different just means that you're more courageous

726
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: than the people who are just following what's been wrong

727
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 4: the whole time, you feel me. So I don't have

728
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 4: a problem being different as long as I know that

729
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 4: that different is right in God's eyes.

730
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,320
Speaker 5: Okay, So it's two things, and I agree with everything

731
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 5: you just said. It's just understand right if we really

732
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 5: want to help people come to a different place, right,

733
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 5: is understanding where they're at, Like understanding the mindset of

734
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 5: the person you're trying to uplift.

735
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,080
Speaker 1: In order to pick the.

736
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 5: Baby up, you got to bend down to the baby's level.

737
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 5: Our problem is we be on the floor with the

738
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 5: baby rolling around. We can get to stand up right, Okay?

739
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 5: Like that strength. There's no question that your strong brother.

740
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 5: People confuse what real strength is. And the fact that

741
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:33,319
Speaker 5: you're pushing back against the system and you're staying through

742
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,960
Speaker 5: the principle speak to the strength of what you do.

743
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 1: All right.

744
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 4: Let me tell ya something, man, This is what I

745
00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:43,799
Speaker 4: struggle with every day. I struggle with balancing how can

746
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 4: I love you while effectively opposing what you're promoting I

747
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 4: gotta love you the whole time. That's the strength part.

748
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 4: I want to be in community with you, but I

749
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,320
Speaker 4: got to oppose what you're promoting. Tile Babies. You feel me,

750
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: And that's the tough part is people want you to

751
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 4: be one of the other. Either you're a hater or

752
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 4: you love everything, and it's like, no, there's nuance to it.

753
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: You can love people.

754
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 4: So for me, d One, if you got a problem

755
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 4: with the system, while you got songs with BG, with Juvenile,

756
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 4: with bullsit with all these people, it's because I love

757
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 4: these people, and I love them so much that I

758
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 4: want to help pull out the best of them.

759
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 1: You feel me. Yeah, I noticed when I hear those

760
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 1: songs that their approach to the music is different. I

761
00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:25,920
Speaker 1: noticed that.

762
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: I noticed that you feel me. So that's what's going

763
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 4: on right now that people have an issue with Bro.

764
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 4: You asked me a question about with Bank. He said something,

765
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 4: What was it? It was that that people have He

766
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 4: said it to you.

767
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:40,400
Speaker 1: But then I look at the comments and it was like,

768
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,879
Speaker 1: how come it seems like if you want the world

769
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: to be better, how come it seems like you're just

770
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: attacking your people.

771
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,320
Speaker 4: Foremost, I'm a rapper, right, So I'm immersed in the

772
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 4: rap game and hip I've caught you all day every day. Therefore,

773
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 4: I have a special love for us. So if I

774
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,240
Speaker 4: some people say, Hey, I'm going to fix the problem

775
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 4: from out, and some people say I'm gonna fix the

776
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 4: problem from inside.

777
00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:04,799
Speaker 2: We need both type of people.

778
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 4: I'm the type of person that's like, yo, let me

779
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,399
Speaker 4: deconstruct what's wrong on the inside of this, because I'm

780
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 4: in community with us every day, So let me not

781
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 4: be around us, but be like, I'm just going to

782
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 4: talk to the corporate system. No, I'm around y'all.

783
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: I got your phone, though, I can hit you up

784
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 1: and really be in community.

785
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 4: So that's why. So we want to be able to

786
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 4: celebrate the foolishness, the ratchetness, the wretchedness, the evil, but

787
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: we don't want to hear any level of accountability or

788
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 4: consequences that come from it. That's wag.

789
00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:32,440
Speaker 1: Bro.

790
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,040
Speaker 2: Listen, bro, I'm not crazy, right, I'm just bold and

791
00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:37,799
Speaker 2: I love God.

792
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 4: Are we tired yet?

793
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 1: Bro?

794
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 4: When you get up in the morning and you look

795
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 4: on Instagram, what's the headlines and hip.

796
00:36:43,640 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: Hop from yesterday? Drake sleeping with.

797
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 4: Sauce Walker's baby, Mama or something like that. Jay Z

798
00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 4: getting on stage at the Roof's picnic and this in

799
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 4: nine or ten people. Right, If he didn't dis those people,

800
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,240
Speaker 4: nobody would probably be talking about his freestyle.

801
00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 2: That's not jay Z's fault because that was bars.

802
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:04,360
Speaker 4: It shows you what we have and appetite, low level,

803
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 4: low vibrational content.

804
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Who are you dissing? Who?

805
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 2: Who died?

806
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:09,520
Speaker 1: Who got killed?

807
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 4: Young dogs? Killer got paid five hundred dollars to kill

808
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 4: this man and that man said, I didn't even know

809
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 4: young dolf. I feel stupid, you know what I mean?

810
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 4: In hindsight, this is the norm for us. The hair

811
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 4: on anybody's arm don't don't go up. We don't get

812
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 4: goosebumps when we read these headlines because we're desensitized to

813
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 4: stupid foolishness. Are we tired yet or no? And how

814
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 4: old are you? I'm timeless, brokay, let me get I'm

815
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 4: gonna give you something. Right.

816
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,040
Speaker 2: It was a time where foy for our people.

817
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 1: The FOY was like one of the most positive things

818
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 1: that we can have in our community. But you had to,

819
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: like you had to like drop the drugs, you had

820
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:55,839
Speaker 1: to like like you had to like work out every day.

821
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: You had to like you know what I'm saying, like

822
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 1: you had to beat Rick Muslim right by that they

823
00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: would recruit like forty fifty people and they would be

824
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:11,319
Speaker 1: losing like twenty five of them because everyone fell. They

825
00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:14,320
Speaker 1: couldn't keep up with the righteousness. So because of that,

826
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: there's a brother named Clarence thirteen X. Clamen's thirteen ex

827
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 1: is the leader. He's one of the people who discovered

828
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: the five five they sent. What he discovered was I

829
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:29,959
Speaker 1: can't talk to my people sometimes from up here because

830
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: that's what the church was losing.

831
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,800
Speaker 4: The church is holier than that at that time, you

832
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying, And.

833
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 1: The church was losing people like man, you gotta be

834
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,440
Speaker 1: there every Sunday, you gotta have that that play, and

835
00:38:39,480 --> 00:38:43,359
Speaker 1: they wasn't going to the streets. So with Clamence going

836
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 1: from church and then the FOI then he said, you

837
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna go to the babies. I'm gonna

838
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,239
Speaker 1: go to the people in the community, but I'm gonna

839
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: talk to them and I'm gonna be amongst them like that.

840
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: You understand I'm saying, Because like I said, Foy down

841
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: to f a while, you had to have a bow tie,

842
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,319
Speaker 1: you had to be clean cut, you had to wake

843
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: up at six o'clock in the morning, or whatever you

844
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: had to about. I believe they was praying five times

845
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: a day. Don't quote me on NF I'm wrong.

846
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:10,959
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.

847
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:13,800
Speaker 1: But then it was that it was that happy medium

848
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: where my brother said, you know what, we losing the

849
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 1: people in the projects. People in the projects want to

850
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,719
Speaker 1: be righteous, but they don't want to wear a bow tie.

851
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 2: They want the message you got.

852
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 1: They just don't want it that way.

853
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 2: They don't want to be critiqued. But he felt that

854
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 2: healthy medium.

855
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 1: And at one point New York City was fire psted

856
00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: out and it was like the least amount of crime

857
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 1: there was because people wanted. People want this information you got. Yes,

858
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: people want this like like like like you said, there's

859
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 1: no one that waits up wanting to be a stripper

860
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 1: in real actuality, there's no one who wants to be

861
00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:46,719
Speaker 1: a killer unless they.

862
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 4: Was taught that.

863
00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: Like how we just broke down that example. They had

864
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: to be taught taught that in some way. But in

865
00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: my and my approach with you and we still gonna

866
00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: do QuickTime and slides with no drinks. Still I have

867
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: never listen.

868
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,240
Speaker 4: I have never had had a drink in my life,

869
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 4: but I would be willing to drink today.

870
00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: Okay, I want going to.

871
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: If you could do like Jesus and turn water into

872
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:16,399
Speaker 1: why that's to get back to my mother. So that's

873
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: what I think, Like it's for you is I believe

874
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,279
Speaker 1: your message to j D Man. I wanted to speak

875
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: about Zeno too. I love how you you were bottled with.

876
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 1: I love you. You know what I mean.

877
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 2: But but you know, it's kind of hard for a man.

878
00:40:34,719 --> 00:40:36,279
Speaker 1: I believe you say, he's fifty six years old or

879
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,719
Speaker 1: something like that, he dated Janet Jackson, he's got all

880
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: these Grammys, he's got all these these made child stars

881
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,359
Speaker 1: into real mobiles, like repeatedly, repeatedly, and then he goes

882
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: this guy from New Orleans critiquing him where it's like,

883
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to lose a Clarence X thing.

884
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, Clarence didn't come and critique him. Like

885
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 1: if the Brothers was smoking weed, Clarence would saying, man,

886
00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: you know you ain't got to put the out. You

887
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Clambers, if they were, you know, drinking,

888
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: for these clamorers to be like, man, you ain't got

889
00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: to put that shit out, But I'm gonna teach you.

890
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna teach you this way. You know what I'm saying.

891
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 1: And he he he, gravitated to a lot more of

892
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,839
Speaker 1: the hood and that was was needed at the time.

893
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say that to you.

894
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: I say, like, when you have these bottles with some

895
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,560
Speaker 1: of these rappers, that's the reason why I don't think

896
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: I don't think they're outright saying fuck your message, D One.

897
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 1: I think they said, man, d one, Man, you're d

898
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: one And.

899
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 4: This is jam Debrie.

900
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: So no, no, no mineral.

901
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,959
Speaker 2: But but I believe there's a happy middle, happy middle.

902
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:37,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe.

903
00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:39,120
Speaker 2: I believe it's a happy.

904
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 1: Middle because you know why, we are the most easiest

905
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,840
Speaker 1: people to negotiate with one. Once we were on the

906
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 1: same level. Once we were on the same level, we

907
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: were on the same accord. It's not hard to negotiate

908
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:50,000
Speaker 1: with your brother. It's not.

909
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: It's just I feel like, if they feel like they being.

910
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: Attacked, that's exactly what you could, Like I said earlier,

911
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: if you could attack somebody, what a correct message.

912
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,480
Speaker 2: And the fact is they used to they used to.

913
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,800
Speaker 1: Eating porridge, you just gave him livester and you and

914
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: they can't even finish that mail, Brod.

915
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 4: We're talking about people that's fifty six years old. Ye,

916
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 4: it's sixty years old. Brow.

917
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,080
Speaker 2: He might have not never got this message, and you

918
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,879
Speaker 2: got to give it to someone. You're gonna learn today.

919
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 4: You got in the most loving way. You gonna learn

920
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 4: in the most loving way, though, bro And the only

921
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,760
Speaker 4: reason I'm going public with stuff is because you're pushing

922
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 4: this stuff publicly. So now I care about how you

923
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 4: When did he push? He went on a whole media run,

924
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,279
Speaker 4: the whole press run to promote Magic City documentary that

925
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:39,880
Speaker 4: he was a big part of it.

926
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: Here was a message magic City, that's you.

927
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 4: And then and then he was putting out an album

928
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 4: after like, I want to restore the feeling of that

929
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 4: culture in Atlanta when we when the strip clubs was

930
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:53,399
Speaker 4: popping and all this stuff. So I'm watching this take

931
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 4: place and I'm watching him brag on, Hey, I spent

932
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 4: ten million dollars in Magic City. I spent twenty thousand

933
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,319
Speaker 4: a week every year for ten years or twenty years,

934
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 4: whatever the numbers was. First of all, he was lying,

935
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,880
Speaker 4: it's cap But second of all, even if it's not

936
00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 4: cap it's stupid. You know what I'm saying. And my

937
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 4: thing is just like, Bro, I'm saying this only not

938
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 4: because you did it, but because you're bragging on it

939
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 4: when you're almost sixty years old. And that is the

940
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,920
Speaker 4: part where if everybody's like, I'm gonna look like a hater,

941
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:20,799
Speaker 4: I'm gonna look like a hater.

942
00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: Guess what I got something for y'all, see you hater shirts?

943
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:23,920
Speaker 3: I got.

944
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 4: I hate anything the devil love I hate anything the Devilope?

945
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:31,960
Speaker 1: What size of you?

946
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 4: Yes?

947
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, but if you have to ask you that, I

948
00:43:37,840 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 1: actually got that written down on my note.

949
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, you said you hate.

950
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:41,319
Speaker 1: Everything the devil love.

951
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 2: Do you think the double loves God?

952
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: The devil love God?

953
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: You think the devil love God?

954
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: But I think that if the devils from God, if

955
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 4: the devil love God. Okay, okay, if the devil logue.

956
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: We're going there, We're going there.

957
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:55,799
Speaker 4: Now, what about the devil? What is the devil love

958
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:56,399
Speaker 4: more than God?

959
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,600
Speaker 1: I don't know, but I know that I know that

960
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: what I mean by the devil love God is he's

961
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:06,120
Speaker 1: doing the exact opposite of God.

962
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 2: He loved did he got jets?

963
00:44:10,040 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 4: It was like I actually want to be you. You

964
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. So that's the problem with a

965
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:20,280
Speaker 4: culture where we build this culture on hip hop, ego, competition, rapids,

966
00:44:20,320 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 4: a blood sport.

967
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:27,879
Speaker 5: Stop, hold on, go ahead, bro, that's America, right, Yeah,

968
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 5: that's that's America. American capitalism is the culture that we

969
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:38,120
Speaker 5: live in period that begins with slavery, where old white

970
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:41,640
Speaker 5: men will sit back and make black bucks fight each

971
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 5: other in battle.

972
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: To the death.

973
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 5: That's been in bred in us. That's why I can't

974
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 5: nobody else have nothing but me. I'm the best only

975
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 5: how ice you say it? MTV have a new nigga

976
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 5: next year, it could only be one motherfucker. So we

977
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,400
Speaker 5: don't grow up thinking community. We don't come up thinking

978
00:45:03,600 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 5: community empowerment, self empowerment. We look, we come up, How

979
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 5: am I gonna tear you down? It don't gonna be

980
00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 5: one black man in a room. And that hip hop

981
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,319
Speaker 5: with rap, that's just the artistic form of that form

982
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 5: of thinking.

983
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: That's not hip hop culture.

984
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:18,440
Speaker 4: That's hip a critical hop.

985
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 1: That's hypocritical hop.

986
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 2: Let me tell you all something, bro, and I love you, Bro.

987
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 1: I disagree tom right because.

988
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,880
Speaker 4: In New Orleans. I grew up in a war zone,

989
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 4: but in my house it went from a war zone

990
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,839
Speaker 4: to a love factory because of my parents and because

991
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 4: of how they raised us. So I know that you

992
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: could be around something and immerse them something, but you

993
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 4: can carve out showing an own little piece of paradise.

994
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: So that being said, all the problems that we have

995
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,399
Speaker 4: with America as black people, let's stop making excuses when

996
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 4: we don't want to be accountable for what we're doing.

997
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 4: At this point, bro, we are the ones who are

998
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 4: choosing to make murder music cool and normal. We are

999
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 4: making strip club culture cool and normal.

1000
00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: And there's people who are saying, Yo, this ain't right

1001
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,399
Speaker 1: and it don't have to be this week.

1002
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 4: But we labeled them the outcasts, and we just need

1003
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 4: a small minority of people that's like, yep, I don't

1004
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 4: mind being outcast because at the end of the day,

1005
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,239
Speaker 4: y'all are gonna wake up when death come knocking at

1006
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,759
Speaker 4: your front door, when your best friend get killed, when

1007
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: your son died.

1008
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: You feel me.

1009
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 4: So that's the problem, bro, is we want to protect

1010
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:22,640
Speaker 4: this culture. It's called black protectionism, right. It means anything

1011
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 4: that's black, if it's black owned, Oh, it can't never

1012
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 4: be wrong.

1013
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 2: No, No, that's not the case, bro.

1014
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: But I want to give you. I want to give

1015
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: you a case like one of another positive brother. I

1016
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:35,600
Speaker 1: speak to like I speak to how I speak to

1017
00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 1: Todd Lib and I speak to David Banner. Oh, I

1018
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 1: got a story about Banner. I speak brother David Banner.

1019
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: David Banna is.

1020
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:46,040
Speaker 2: One of the more.

1021
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,560
Speaker 1: I love building with him, I love speaking to him.

1022
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 1: But he also has strip club records. He has records

1023
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: that it's catered to the strip club. Now, when they

1024
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: hired David Banner, I can guarantee you he's.

1025
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: Going to do one of those strip club records.

1026
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 1: Now does he mean it?

1027
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 4: Does?

1028
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: Does he stand on it or is he supposed to say,

1029
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,239
Speaker 1: hey guys, I'm not on this no more he can

1030
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: he can or he can just say I just did

1031
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,919
Speaker 1: the record and go on. I feel like I feel

1032
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:15,880
Speaker 1: like I feel like he's a great teacher. So he

1033
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: doesn't have this excuse. But everybody can't. Everybody is not

1034
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,360
Speaker 1: as articulate as you, but David Banner is. But what

1035
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,319
Speaker 1: if he's like, man, listen, man, I did this record

1036
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:28,759
Speaker 1: with Pempse. I did this record with you know what

1037
00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 1: I mean, little Flip. I did this record with such

1038
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,919
Speaker 1: and such, it's a hit, it represents this. I don't

1039
00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 1: represent that no more. But by him even performing it,

1040
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:38,440
Speaker 1: is he wrong for that.

1041
00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 4: There's life and death in the power of the tongue.

1042
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 4: That's Proverbs eighteen and twenty one. So even if we say, yo,

1043
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 4: this is my past, I ain't doing this no more,

1044
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:49,759
Speaker 4: but I'm still gonna push this out there. I'm gonna

1045
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,919
Speaker 4: put this energy in the atmosphere right doing these type

1046
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,879
Speaker 4: of songs, this glorifying murder, glorifying strip strip, club culture, whatever,

1047
00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 4: there's still power in that because there's spirits that exist

1048
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:02,560
Speaker 4: in these words that we say.

1049
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 1: So like me recently, I recently just said, I told y'all,

1050
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 1: this is off camera.

1051
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 2: I had to show camera.

1052
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: I had to show in Brooklyn and me I looked,

1053
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: it was Spanish, it was black, but then there was

1054
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: a couple of white people, and I consciously did not

1055
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 1: say the word nigga, like I consciously was like, I

1056
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: consciously like and like, you know what I'm saying, Like

1057
00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: I didn't want to be like, yeah, niggas want to

1058
00:48:25,080 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: fuck with me, but that's in my lyrics.

1059
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: And these are the these are these are these are

1060
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: the ship.

1061
00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: But that's not what I was like, I'm sorry, Like,

1062
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: so you censored yourself, you.

1063
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,160
Speaker 2: Censored on purpose?

1064
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,360
Speaker 4: Yes, against you?

1065
00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:37,879
Speaker 2: Against I mean I tried as.

1066
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 1: Much as I say, because I should say nigga a lot,

1067
00:48:40,320 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 1: you know, so so like, but I'm conscious of this,

1068
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: Like when when when I hang out with my rap

1069
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,240
Speaker 1: friends and we're sitting around and we're an explicit restaurant

1070
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: and they saying, hey, mana and I'm like, yo, man,

1071
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: just look at us.

1072
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,800
Speaker 2: We look crazy like we'reful men, and we say so.

1073
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 1: I've been starting this movement, there has not been one

1074
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:59,160
Speaker 1: rapper who said, you know, he's right. I went online,

1075
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,399
Speaker 1: I went on line and say, yo, I'm gonna stop

1076
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 1: saying the word nigga.

1077
00:49:02,280 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1078
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 2: Have I completely stopped?

1079
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:04,319
Speaker 3: Nah?

1080
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:04,760
Speaker 2: I haven't.

1081
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,799
Speaker 4: But I'm trying. Your intentions are pure and they're right,

1082
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:12,160
Speaker 4: but come on, you not. I can tell you. I

1083
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 4: got I got things to say. One about David Banner. Okay,

1084
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,760
Speaker 4: I just signed my record deal. I'm with RCA Records.

1085
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 4: I'm fresh out of being a middle school teacher, just

1086
00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 4: signed a big record deal. Man, feeling like my life changing.

1087
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:24,800
Speaker 4: So I'm about to put my first single out, this

1088
00:49:24,920 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 4: called against Us. I'm like, man, I need a big

1089
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,240
Speaker 4: feature on this thing. I just did a speaking engagement

1090
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,200
Speaker 4: with David Banner at Southern University a couple of weeks before.

1091
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 4: I said, man, I could get Banner. You heard me

1092
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 4: from right there in Mississippi. I'm from New Orleans. I'm

1093
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 4: gonna get banned the feature on this song. I send

1094
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 4: the song to Banner. Oh, little bro, I love this song.

1095
00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: I got you right.

1096
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna lace this. So I'm in New York. I'm

1097
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 4: at a Starbucks and Banner hits me back. I just

1098
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 4: sent you the verse, so I press play. I listened

1099
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:52,840
Speaker 4: to the verse from David Banner. As I'm listening, I'm like,

1100
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 4: oh you serious, I'm listening. Bro, the stuff Banner saying

1101
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: in the verse, I'm like, Bro, this don't go with

1102
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:03,040
Speaker 4: the theme of the song.

1103
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:08,680
Speaker 2: Oh all right, but this is David Banner. Describe that

1104
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: a little better. So he said, like he said a

1105
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:11,439
Speaker 2: negative ship or something.

1106
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 4: Man, he going off, bro, he going he knew exactly

1107
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 4: in the record. And you know, David Banner is pro

1108
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: black and this record was very u the most It's

1109
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 4: like it's like he took out his anger towards every

1110
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,440
Speaker 4: slave mastering. He said, I'm going to put it on

1111
00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 4: this song, and why people, y'all going to get your

1112
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 4: issue on this song? Right? And I'm listening to it

1113
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:39,200
Speaker 4: and I'm listening to the words he us and I'm like, hey,

1114
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: I love it, brother, it just.

1115
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 2: Don't fit for this record. But how am I going

1116
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: to tell him that?

1117
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 3: Right?

1118
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 4: I have nothing at the time, So I'm like, do

1119
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,799
Speaker 4: I just say okay and we're gonna put the record out,

1120
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 4: or do I make this call to a dude that's

1121
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 4: like a mentor to me and be like, big bro man,

1122
00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:57,959
Speaker 4: I can't.

1123
00:50:58,080 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: I can't go with this verse.

1124
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 4: Bro. This message that you put on here right one

1125
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 4: of the most uncomfortable things I ever had to do

1126
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:04,640
Speaker 4: being a young artist in the game.

1127
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: He wasn't speaking negative towards black people. He was speaking

1128
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: negative towards you, like you said, like right towards.

1129
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:13,839
Speaker 4: White yeah yeah yeah, which I'm like, I respect your

1130
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,640
Speaker 4: mindset towards that just for this song, like that's not

1131
00:51:16,680 --> 00:51:17,920
Speaker 4: our messages.

1132
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 2: On right, right?

1133
00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 4: So having that accountable with him, you know what, banner Man,

1134
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:25,279
Speaker 4: big personality, strong will. He wasn't just happy to hear

1135
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,279
Speaker 4: what I was saying. So it turned into a back

1136
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: and forth conversation, and I'm walking around the block in Manhattan,

1137
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 4: just walking in circles while I'm on the phone with Banner, right.

1138
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 4: And by the time we got off that phone, we

1139
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 4: were closer than we had ever been because two grown

1140
00:51:38,719 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 4: black men that are passionate figured out how to disagree

1141
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,200
Speaker 4: but still love one another. And it made it to it.

1142
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 4: He was like, I respect you, even if I don't

1143
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:49,719
Speaker 4: always agree with you. I respect you because when you

1144
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 4: stand for something, you're not going to move off that square.

1145
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,960
Speaker 4: And it's because of your love for God. And ever

1146
00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 4: since that day, our relationship been on another level. So

1147
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 4: a lot of artists in the game, they want to

1148
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:03,000
Speaker 4: go one way with their talent and with their creativity,

1149
00:52:03,239 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 4: but they just find themselves in a space where it's like, well,

1150
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,120
Speaker 4: this is what the people want from me, right, And

1151
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,560
Speaker 4: I got to give people what they want, No, you don't.

1152
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 4: We got to have a mindset. I got to get

1153
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 4: to people what they need. Because they had one hundred

1154
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 4: rappers in Queen's Bridge, they had a thousand rappers in

1155
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:20,880
Speaker 4: New Orleans trying to get on God shows us. So

1156
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,840
Speaker 4: we got to be different than just saying I'm a

1157
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 4: yes man, And I'm gonna give y'all whatever y'all want. No,

1158
00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 4: I have to pray, meditate and think what do my

1159
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 4: people need so that now my environment can become a

1160
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,160
Speaker 4: product of me instead of me being a product.

1161
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: Of my environment.

1162
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 5: That's that strength I was talking about earlier, Like, that's

1163
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 5: real strength. You know when you look talking to somebody,

1164
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 5: you look up to a mentor, you know, a successful

1165
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,839
Speaker 5: recording artist going hey, listen, this is not the goal

1166
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:49,799
Speaker 5: of this particular project, and I need you to change

1167
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 5: your message around. That takes a lot of strengths, right,

1168
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:54,960
Speaker 5: also takes a lot of strength to not waiver and

1169
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 5: stands on principle.

1170
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:56,759
Speaker 3: Right.

1171
00:52:57,680 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna tell you something.

1172
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: I've been wondering this for a long time.

1173
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 1: Man.

1174
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 4: When we talk about the message in our lyrics and

1175
00:53:04,640 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: the things we say, words live forever.

1176
00:53:07,239 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: There's life and death in the power to talk.

1177
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:09,200
Speaker 7: Right.

1178
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 2: Do you still have that cocker Spaniel?

1179
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 4: No? No, no, no, you know what I'm talking about?

1180
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 4: What made you tell never that you had a cocker

1181
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:18,799
Speaker 4: span you talk?

1182
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 2: I gotta tea up.

1183
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 4: I just know I being a little kid listening to

1184
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:27,880
Speaker 4: and Yo, we light a candle, run laps around the

1185
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 4: English Channel, Neptoones, I got cock.

1186
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:36,120
Speaker 1: Span, bring it down for you in Queens. In Queens,

1187
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,719
Speaker 1: when the person passed away, we light the candle. So

1188
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: if ever, we've been to the Brox in New York City,

1189
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,200
Speaker 1: I said, Queens, but it's really it's really New York City, like, uh,

1190
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:48,000
Speaker 1: it's really like a Latino Spanish culture. Yeah, so when

1191
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: someone passes away, we light the candle.

1192
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 2: I'm so mad. I like I like the candle. I

1193
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 2: run laps around the English Channel. You know the English

1194
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 2: Channel where it's the.

1195
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:57,560
Speaker 1: Biggest body of water. So that's what I'm saying. I'm

1196
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 1: super the biggest body of the war. I'm running laps

1197
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 1: around the English Channel, which years later I started to

1198
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: be a fucking job. Run Yeah, hesensions left for me?

1199
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,279
Speaker 1: What at you in the running? Yeah? Yeah when last

1200
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:10,399
Speaker 1: around the English Channel and Neptunes, I got a cock

1201
00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: and span. You back then we were calling guns a dog,

1202
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 1: So a nine min the media was a rockbeller twenty

1203
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 1: two was a a cock and span.

1204
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:21,160
Speaker 2: That was four or five years so yeah, so.

1205
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:23,200
Speaker 1: Hey, yeah, I thought he was talking about the pit.

1206
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, I'm like, man Man loveel Man, I mean New.

1207
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: Orleans, Like what the heck is god, even that, even that,

1208
00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:44,080
Speaker 1: even though I'm glad you broke that up to me,

1209
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:46,800
Speaker 1: Forell was always a conscious rapper to me for what

1210
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: was always not I don't want to say conscious. I

1211
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: want to say he was always the opposite of gangster.

1212
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,880
Speaker 1: He was always the opposite of gangster. And even that,

1213
00:54:56,120 --> 00:54:59,280
Speaker 1: right even that, I remember at one point his manager,

1214
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 1: Rob Walker, Bob Walk and stepped to me and was like,

1215
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: can I can I can I because we had we

1216
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:07,840
Speaker 1: had so many records together, and a lot of the

1217
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:11,080
Speaker 1: records that didn't come out were like real gangster record,

1218
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 1: but this was this was these were records that he

1219
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,279
Speaker 1: was gearing me towards. Like like I'm not saying like

1220
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:22,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't with it. What I'm saying is, after we

1221
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: had so much success of us working together, he would

1222
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: pre work sometime and be like, Yo, let's do this.

1223
00:55:28,239 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 2: Like he got a record. I got a record.

1224
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,160
Speaker 4: It's on It's on the.

1225
00:55:34,680 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 2: Nerds album.

1226
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:38,279
Speaker 1: Not the Nerds but the other ship that they had

1227
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: And if you listen, no, but I have a record

1228
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:45,040
Speaker 1: on on on his his his group album.

1229
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: Forget what it was?

1230
00:55:45,719 --> 00:55:47,520
Speaker 1: I think it was with the other dude, and I

1231
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,719
Speaker 1: think it's called put Him Up. And I didn't even

1232
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: know he was talking about Gang Ship's three cakes, put

1233
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 1: them up, put on whatever he was saying. And I'm

1234
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:02,640
Speaker 1: just sitting there because I'm not listening to him. I'm

1235
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: just wrapping to the beat. And Rob Walker had to

1236
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:07,560
Speaker 1: tell me like like this was me not being conscious.

1237
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm sitting back trying to make a club

1238
00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: record like another one we had so much success. I'm

1239
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 1: just following. I'm not saying for real, influenced me in

1240
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,840
Speaker 1: a bad way. But what I'm saying is like I

1241
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 1: don't want to say I had no choice.

1242
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 2: I wasn't even paying attention.

1243
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,400
Speaker 1: I was just like I wasn't paying attention to his words,

1244
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,080
Speaker 1: his water the record was gangs stuff, you know what

1245
00:56:25,080 --> 00:56:27,359
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Like so like like this what I'm saying,

1246
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:31,239
Speaker 1: like it was the Neptune's what clams Okay, what's the

1247
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 1: name of the record called put Him Up? I know

1248
00:56:33,840 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: he was talking because you know y'all on the South,

1249
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,200
Speaker 1: you have to say it was something. It go off

1250
00:56:39,239 --> 00:56:41,959
Speaker 1: my head. I didn't know he was literally talking about

1251
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: gangs pulling it up like that. Like when I came

1252
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: to to to record the record, his his his verse,

1253
00:56:51,280 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 1: and his hook was already there. Now me and him

1254
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 1: have this, we have this chemistry where I didn't really

1255
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,800
Speaker 1: listen to what he said, but if you listen to it,

1256
00:57:01,000 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 1: if you listen to it now, I bet most of

1257
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: the people think that was No's idea. I bet you, like.

1258
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 5: He's talking about understanding, understanding him, understanding who you were

1259
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 5: or who your character was, right, and then being in

1260
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:21,640
Speaker 5: a creative space to say, Okay, this is what he

1261
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,640
Speaker 5: needs and to connect it to like the conversation, so.

1262
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 1: Like what you do you have to keep doing?

1263
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:29,080
Speaker 4: Right?

1264
00:57:29,200 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: We need your message undoubtedly, right, I agree.

1265
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:36,960
Speaker 5: But there's a thing with not but and there's a

1266
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 5: thing with understanding right where people aren't put off by

1267
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 5: the jewel right right, Unfortunately, there's something I want to

1268
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 5: dress with you because I agree with you, Like we

1269
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 5: could talk about each other and go in on each

1270
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 5: other and talk about who done got this and who

1271
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 5: don't got that, and it's all good. Everybody's with it.

1272
00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 5: Somebody spiritual goal you spiritually bet well at you to

1273
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 5: be saying who the fuck is you?

1274
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:02,440
Speaker 1: You ain't know?

1275
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:07,480
Speaker 5: How come we can accept critique and challenge when it's

1276
00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 5: on some bullshit. But when it's about elevation and doing

1277
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,480
Speaker 5: what's best for us and our people, it's like, oh,

1278
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:13,920
Speaker 5: you know who the fuck is you?

1279
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: If you? If you, I'm gonna tell you something. If

1280
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,200
Speaker 1: you in this game more than three years, you are

1281
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 1: out of the streets. I don't give unless you one

1282
00:58:25,160 --> 00:58:28,200
Speaker 1: of them dumb dumb dudes. So what I'm trying to

1283
00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: say is it's a way to deliver that message. You

1284
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, some way to deliver that message,

1285
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 1: like all of like I love that jay Z live

1286
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: where like he was like.

1287
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:39,160
Speaker 2: Yo, lyrically, I want to rhyme like Toddler.

1288
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: All of us did once we all got out the hood.

1289
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: All of us wanted to all of us wanted to say,

1290
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: yoall I relate to us, black power.

1291
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: We all did, like it's none of us. But it's

1292
00:58:50,800 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 2: like the dingo it for real.

1293
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: It's like I was, I swear to God, I'm not

1294
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: over telling this story. I really didn't know. I really

1295
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,520
Speaker 1: didn't listen to what he was saying. I was just

1296
00:59:00,920 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: hearing the flow. And then you know how good producers do.

1297
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: Good producers sometimes might give you to say the flow

1298
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: and they not even going filled in the words later. Yeah,

1299
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:13,040
Speaker 1: And I don't remember for that happened at that time,

1300
00:59:13,080 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 1: but I know that whatever it was, I didn't want

1301
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,439
Speaker 1: to had he not blaming him Parrell, had he said

1302
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,240
Speaker 1: to me, your Nori, we're gonna talk about the autobiography

1303
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: of Malcolm X.

1304
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Speaker 5: Would one of my favorite songs of all time, hands down, period,

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Speaker 5: point blank?

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Speaker 1: I love my life?

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00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 4: I know, yeah, yeah, Hey, I love my life.

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00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: I was saying I love my life back Hey called time.

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00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:40,920
Speaker 1: So how did that come about? Okay, because that's a difference.

1310
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,440
Speaker 1: That's an honestly different message.

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00:59:42,680 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 4: Uh, that was my conscious.

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Speaker 1: Well, that was something that's that's that's a great question.

1313
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 1: But that was something that I tried to tell the

1314
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 1: hood without trying to be constan just like because like

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01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: you got I love my life and I said, sold drugs,

1316
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: my life, not sell drugs. So it's in the past tense.

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01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: Carl Thomas said that, But you know who wrote that,

1318
01:00:13,320 --> 01:00:15,880
Speaker 1: nas that was right? That was that was nas Hook

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01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 1: And we were O D and we had nas on Crazy,

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01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,560
Speaker 1: we had on Body the Trump, we had nas on

1321
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 1: Children Norris Story, and we had nas on I Love

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01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,760
Speaker 1: my Life and they were like, yo, listen, we're gonna

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01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: clear one of these motherfuckers. And I realized NA singing

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01:00:33,400 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: was the same thing that Carl Thomas. So we had

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01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 1: re start to Carl Thomas. Carl Thomas laced it up

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Speaker 1: and yes, that was the record that I felt like.

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Speaker 4: I didn't know the hood was going like that because

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01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 4: it was soft and.

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01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 1: It was just saying that I loved my life, sold drugs,

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01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:50,440
Speaker 1: my life, lived my whole life. I sacrificed these games

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01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 1: we played. We live and play happy. All sad is

1332
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: live your life. You know what I'm saying. Yes, so

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01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: I didn't think the hospital.

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01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:03,680
Speaker 2: God, I only perform that record when I know that,

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01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 2: when I know where.

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Speaker 1: The people is at, because it's so much down like

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01:01:06,320 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: I don't perform sometimes. You know my record about my

1338
01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 1: father passing away, I don't perform that. But yeah, that

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01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:12,960
Speaker 1: was that was my birth day and they with a

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01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,240
Speaker 1: Carll recorded is yes, yes, yes, so I.

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01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,960
Speaker 4: Know you see, you see what you see. What's beautiful

1342
01:01:17,960 --> 01:01:20,920
Speaker 4: about this moment is which side of us are we

1343
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 4: choosing to celebrate right when we choose to celebrate the

1344
01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:27,120
Speaker 4: side of us just putting thought and meaning into our music.

1345
01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 4: That's amazing. Nobody is saying let's cancel this whole person

1346
01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 4: or their whole catalog.

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01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: It's just saying, Bro, that's why I feel like your

1348
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: message is missing. It because apartment, because you. But but

1349
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Speaker 1: I just want you to say, I just want you

1350
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,840
Speaker 1: to know it's gonna be a lot harder for you

1351
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: to convince a whole generation that what we did back

1352
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: then was wrong. Yeah, even if our message was wrong,

1353
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 1: it was it got us to a certain degree.

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01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:54,680
Speaker 2: But we can't change the past.

1355
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 1: We could. We could denounce it like you said, or

1356
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,360
Speaker 1: we can say, you know what, that's not me no more.

1357
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: And that's cool too. But what we do forward is

1358
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:03,120
Speaker 1: which you should be judging. That's what I feel like,

1359
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, We look forward because how

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Speaker 1: Jamaine de pre said, you're listen, that's like like like

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Speaker 1: like listen, Bro, I'm sorry, but that was strip club

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Speaker 1: culture then and when and now.

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Speaker 2: I people explain this to use it like this. And

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Speaker 2: I don't mean the strip club culture.

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Speaker 1: I mean the non violence. Because one thing about strip clubs,

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Speaker 1: for the most part, that's the most non violent place

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Speaker 1: in the world. And I know how Atlanta was at

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01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,840
Speaker 1: one point and when that when players club I believe

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01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 1: it's players Club with ice cube and huh, that's what

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Speaker 1: That's what it was.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: That was the first one where people started to really

1373
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: hang out the strip clubs, and some people really wasn't

1374
01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: participating in that lifestyle. They were just did because that's

1375
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:45,000
Speaker 1: the actual club to hang out at. You understand I'm saying.

1376
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Speaker 1: So that's why I want you to like, like, like

1377
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,360
Speaker 1: to take heated. I don't think Jermaine dupre Uh would

1378
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: have said no, young brother. I think he would have

1379
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: been like, yo, you know what you're right, let me

1380
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: let me let me see that now.

1381
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 2: But again, what are you pushing.

1382
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 1: Now?

1383
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 4: Now?

1384
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: People have said, and I'm currently gonna say.

1385
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: Fuck that, and I'm gonna do some more like this

1386
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 1: because even Benzino, right, I wanted to touch on it. Right,

1387
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 1: even with Benzino, I felt like Benzino was defending him

1388
01:03:13,600 --> 01:03:14,960
Speaker 1: and then you went, you went, you went.

1389
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:15,440
Speaker 2: Back at him.

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01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:17,080
Speaker 4: And then that's why I heard Big Bay he says,

1391
01:03:17,080 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 4: sometimes you be going at people too, And I'm gonna respond,

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01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,560
Speaker 4: I'm gonna just say this, if you're old and you're

1393
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 4: pushing Puison, it's time to get out, yes, because we

1394
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,720
Speaker 4: got brothers in the hood still trying to get out. Now,

1395
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 4: we got brothers in prison, still trying to get out.

1396
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 4: Since y'all senior citizens, I'm gonna make this discount. Y'all

1397
01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 4: been around for a while, so we know y'all names,

1398
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:40,320
Speaker 4: But y'all ain't never evolved.

1399
01:03:40,360 --> 01:03:40,920
Speaker 2: That's how we know.

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Speaker 4: Y'all lamb. Y'all think it's cool to still come around

1401
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,439
Speaker 4: and show y'all chains and your money. Funny because y'all

1402
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 4: dumb is blow y'all chains, don't mess it up for

1403
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,520
Speaker 4: these little ones. Y'all to point out the fake ones

1404
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,000
Speaker 4: because we know who's the real ones. People don't want

1405
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 4: to be humble, so they gotta be humble. You ain't

1406
01:03:56,560 --> 01:03:59,880
Speaker 4: kicking no game. You're causing people to stumble. Stop thinking

1407
01:04:00,080 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 4: all for stuff. God ain't blessed the devil elevated you.

1408
01:04:03,680 --> 01:04:06,800
Speaker 4: That's not real success. But you still got time. If

1409
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:08,880
Speaker 4: you start to get the picture, it's best to do

1410
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:09,320
Speaker 4: it now.

1411
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:11,120
Speaker 2: If not, death's gonna deal with you.

1412
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:17,160
Speaker 5: To know.

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01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 2: I believe you said this on a different interview.

1414
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,160
Speaker 1: Uh you said you said, oh, oh, New Orleans is

1415
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:30,520
Speaker 1: not just my stomping grounds. Right, The earth earth is

1416
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:34,680
Speaker 1: your turf, and and your message is so important that

1417
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: I want you to be aware, like you know what,

1418
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 1: don't stop, but let's let's let's let's get everybody because

1419
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: everybody deserves to hear your message. You know what I'm saying,

1420
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 1: everybody deserves it. Like I said, I know for a fact,

1421
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: once you kind of make it, once you make it.

1422
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 1: Once you make it in hip hop, you're done with

1423
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,520
Speaker 1: the hood, especially if you have you got a hip record,

1424
01:04:55,640 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 1: you got you know, lifestyle, you got friends, like you.

1425
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: Can always get money in hip hop.

1426
01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,240
Speaker 1: You could always Like I seen Jabul the damage the

1427
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: other day, his passport resistance. You know what I'm saying,

1428
01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:08,360
Speaker 1: he's in Europe killing them. He don't care about being

1429
01:05:08,360 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: over here. So you can get money and hip hop

1430
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. And I believe this

1431
01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:15,480
Speaker 1: is me talking to you. I believe your message is

1432
01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 1: so powerful that it shouldn't be alienated. It shouldn't be

1433
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,000
Speaker 1: just for the people who want to change, like it

1434
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,040
Speaker 1: should be the people that who don't want to change.

1435
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,120
Speaker 1: But if you approach them like yo, brother, I just

1436
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:27,960
Speaker 1: want you to know, like this, this and that when

1437
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: you're saying like yo, you know you like you go

1438
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:34,160
Speaker 1: back and denounce everything that you did and it's like

1439
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: that's good.

1440
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 2: That's the harder mission. You could say, yo, you know what.

1441
01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:39,920
Speaker 1: I pointed that out to you, and they could be

1442
01:05:39,960 --> 01:05:41,760
Speaker 1: like yo, yo, and you know, moving forward, this is

1443
01:05:41,800 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: what we're doing, like because that's what I thought.

1444
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna lie.

1445
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 1: I know Benzino, right, so when I see y'all with

1446
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: the back and forth, like I knew his message to you,

1447
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:55,040
Speaker 1: he's kind of aggressive. God, so you don't know like

1448
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: this and I know that one you d one man?

1449
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:59,000
Speaker 1: What do you think? Man?

1450
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:02,360
Speaker 2: And I'm like, bro, like I think one of the

1451
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 2: things that's that Boston acting.

1452
01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, no, no, no, it's one of that Boston

1453
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,520
Speaker 1: And it's like he's he's actually done things in hip hop.

1454
01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,560
Speaker 2: He's done thing And I don't think he was coming

1455
01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:10,840
Speaker 2: at you.

1456
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,240
Speaker 1: I think that was his his base in his voice,

1457
01:06:14,280 --> 01:06:16,920
Speaker 1: like you hang out with a Brooklyn person, A Brooklyn person.

1458
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:17,280
Speaker 2: Will offend you.

1459
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:21,920
Speaker 1: You don't even don't even know, like yeah, wait a minute,

1460
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 1: Like I'm from Queens, bro, Like you know what I'm saying,

1461
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: Like that's how it is. And so that's what I

1462
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 1: want you to understand, Like I want you to know

1463
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:36,280
Speaker 1: everybody ain't against you, and especially the people who disagree

1464
01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:38,480
Speaker 1: with you, they just might need that common ground or

1465
01:06:38,520 --> 01:06:40,840
Speaker 1: they need they need to be taught that. You know

1466
01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:44,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like me, like me, like I've been righteous,

1467
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 1: I know this, I know your message.

1468
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 2: I know I know it's needed. You know what I'm saying.

1469
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:48,920
Speaker 2: I know it's needed, and I know.

1470
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,680
Speaker 1: So that's the reason why I'm saying, I want you

1471
01:06:52,760 --> 01:06:54,800
Speaker 1: to be careful, not like you ain't doing the right thing,

1472
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 1: but be careful because I don't want you to be

1473
01:06:56,440 --> 01:06:58,479
Speaker 1: alienating people. You know what I mean, Like the church

1474
01:06:58,560 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: is for everybody, Like you know what I'm saying.

1475
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 4: If you go to the church.

1476
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:03,120
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. They're not supposed to.

1477
01:07:03,120 --> 01:07:05,760
Speaker 1: Turn down the crackhead. They ain't supposed to turn down

1478
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: the prostitute. They ain't supposed to turn down on the

1479
01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 1: drug dealer. They ain't supposed to turn down even even

1480
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:13,320
Speaker 1: the murder. They a't supposed to turn down these certain people.

1481
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:15,560
Speaker 1: They you know what I'm saying, They're supposed to sit

1482
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,280
Speaker 1: there because God's going to hell everything.

1483
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:18,360
Speaker 2: So it has to be that.

1484
01:07:18,600 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 1: It has to be that with you because you have

1485
01:07:21,560 --> 01:07:25,320
Speaker 1: the chest to do something that never been done, Like

1486
01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,880
Speaker 1: you actually had a strip club song play in the

1487
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 1: strip club. That's a that's a that's a plus a

1488
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:36,480
Speaker 1: negative strip playing in the strip clubs. So so you

1489
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: got to understand, all right, there's something in life where

1490
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 1: you just need those little winds, and those little winds

1491
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 1: will add up like you get those little wins. And

1492
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 1: I know what's going to sound like a little crazy,

1493
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,520
Speaker 1: but like sometimes you know, respecting your elders is like

1494
01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:52,120
Speaker 1: a good thing.

1495
01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:54,160
Speaker 2: That's not nothing bad bad to you know what I mean?

1496
01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 2: Like I do I respect my others. I came up.

1497
01:07:57,000 --> 01:08:00,520
Speaker 1: You said you had a place in paradise, the well.

1498
01:08:00,560 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 1: I grew up with my mother and father. I know

1499
01:08:02,600 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 1: how to open the doors. I know how to say

1500
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 1: please and thank you. I know how to eat you

1501
01:08:06,360 --> 01:08:06,800
Speaker 1: with the fall.

1502
01:08:06,920 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.

1503
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:11,920
Speaker 1: Not saying mockers, but you know what I'm trying to say, Like, right,

1504
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: I've never I've never. I've never my father and my

1505
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:18,599
Speaker 1: mother been together my whole life.

1506
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:18,760
Speaker 4: Right.

1507
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,640
Speaker 1: My father passed away by ninety eight, But I my

1508
01:08:21,760 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 1: father had green eyes. He was he was in shape.

1509
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: He would run every day and you know, females will

1510
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: come at him. I never see my father flirt. Wow,

1511
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,760
Speaker 1: I've never seen that, like I've never physically seen my

1512
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: father flirt or like go what another baby. And the

1513
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:37,240
Speaker 1: other day both of my kids looked at me that

1514
01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:38,880
Speaker 1: both our kids that was with me at that time,

1515
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: they said, Dad, we never seen you flirt. She said,

1516
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: oh shit, it pucked me out. Oh shit, I almost cried.

1517
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 1: So I have to chae the subject, like getting the

1518
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: book out of here. But that's what I'm trying to

1519
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,479
Speaker 1: tell you is like, so I'm getting back to your point,

1520
01:08:57,000 --> 01:09:00,640
Speaker 1: like I had that same like type of paradise and neighborhood,

1521
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 1: but I couldn't show it because I couldn't go outside

1522
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: and bragging by having a mother to a dude that

1523
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: got nothing that lived with his aunt. They don't want

1524
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,160
Speaker 1: him there because his mother and then passed away and

1525
01:09:11,439 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: his grandmother then passed away. You that to the hood,

1526
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,479
Speaker 1: which seemed like you're bragging when you're saying, just what

1527
01:09:17,640 --> 01:09:19,800
Speaker 1: you got. I got a mother and the father. I

1528
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,559
Speaker 1: come home at eight o'clock at night. I come home

1529
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:25,080
Speaker 1: to eat like I had to come over the streetlight.

1530
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: But guess what Lee worried from the Panama building, ain't

1531
01:09:28,360 --> 01:09:31,080
Speaker 1: had that. You know what I'm saying, Step from Canada.

1532
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,680
Speaker 1: Building didn't have that. So this is not something I

1533
01:09:33,840 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 1: grew up not knowing how to promote something that was

1534
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:43,719
Speaker 1: positive in my life. But I did learn how to promote.

1535
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:48,320
Speaker 1: Hey man, if homeboy got beat up down the block,

1536
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: let's go over there and ride.

1537
01:09:50,360 --> 01:09:51,360
Speaker 2: That was more popular.

1538
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,800
Speaker 1: So like, that's why I say that to say to you,

1539
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,000
Speaker 1: like I understand and I relate to you so much,

1540
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: but your message is too powerful to say it's just

1541
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,320
Speaker 1: for it's just for this, it's just for the people

1542
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 1: who want to change. It's for the people who want

1543
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:05,840
Speaker 1: to change who don't, who ain't saying that publicly as well,

1544
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:06,599
Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

1545
01:10:06,720 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 4: It's hard to teach a man who's rich and has

1546
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 4: a big ego though. So here's the thing. I find

1547
01:10:11,080 --> 01:10:13,640
Speaker 4: myself in a tough position because in hip hop, I

1548
01:10:13,720 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 4: want to teach the younger generation, and I'm able to

1549
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,000
Speaker 4: reach them with no problem. You know what I'm saying.

1550
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:21,960
Speaker 4: Fred O Bang, y'all know that was my middle school student.

1551
01:10:22,040 --> 01:10:23,519
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, And now I see he's

1552
01:10:23,720 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 4: grown to be a hugely successful rapper.

1553
01:10:26,040 --> 01:10:26,880
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something.

1554
01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:29,639
Speaker 4: I didn't think that I was signing up to being

1555
01:10:29,720 --> 01:10:32,080
Speaker 4: a game where I would also be having to teach

1556
01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:34,800
Speaker 4: people that are supposed to be my ogs. This this

1557
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,000
Speaker 4: is this is your calling. That's the tough part. You

1558
01:10:38,040 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 4: don't get to pick your calling, right, So when I'm

1559
01:10:40,360 --> 01:10:43,320
Speaker 4: having to realize that, oh, I gotta teach my generation.

1560
01:10:43,640 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 4: I got to teach and reach the younger generation, but

1561
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:46,879
Speaker 4: I'm supposed to teach my OG's.

1562
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 2: The tough part about ogs is some.

1563
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 4: Of them are DG's disappointing grown ups, right, So they're

1564
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 4: not really OG's who you could really have a good

1565
01:10:55,960 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 4: conversation with. And man, the man, y'all just keep it

1566
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,960
Speaker 4: a hunted and y'all know, transparent and it's love at

1567
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,280
Speaker 4: the center. You got people that feel like I'm too

1568
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 4: rich to even talk to you, d one, I'm too

1569
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:07,920
Speaker 4: known to even talk to you. And I know this

1570
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,760
Speaker 4: because I went through it with Rick Ross. I went

1571
01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 4: through this three years ago when Rick Ross was like, man,

1572
01:11:13,960 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 4: who is this little basket head dude from New Orleans

1573
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:17,559
Speaker 4: trying to talk about the boss?

1574
01:11:18,240 --> 01:11:20,920
Speaker 2: I keep out turning you know what I give out

1575
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:21,800
Speaker 2: talking to?

1576
01:11:22,760 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, Brown give our turny that Thanksgiving, but

1577
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 4: you feed people pausing the rest.

1578
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: Of the year.

1579
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 4: And it wasn't until I got on swear in the

1580
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:34,880
Speaker 4: morning and then they hear, oh, his young brother got

1581
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:37,439
Speaker 4: a platform and now he's speaking. Is that now you

1582
01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:39,560
Speaker 4: listen to me? Me and Jim Jones, we pieced it

1583
01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,320
Speaker 4: up since then we're good now. But Jim Jones had issue.

1584
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Like you, who is this

1585
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:47,640
Speaker 4: dude to even speak my name? You know what I'm saying, Man,

1586
01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:49,600
Speaker 4: I'm a chin of guard just like you are. We

1587
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 4: all know. So I'm not so I'm not fit a

1588
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:57,640
Speaker 4: tiptoe around people's egos and around people's network because that

1589
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:00,439
Speaker 4: is what we blinded ourselves by and we got was saying,

1590
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 4: as long as you found a way to get paid

1591
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:03,400
Speaker 4: off of it, then it.

1592
01:12:03,479 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 2: Must be right.

1593
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:07,560
Speaker 1: No, but but you got to remember like like like

1594
01:12:07,680 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 1: they say, Jesus hung around the poor. Yeah, you know

1595
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, So so you got to hang around

1596
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:15,519
Speaker 1: the poor now in that sense, that's poor minds to

1597
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:15,880
Speaker 1: think it.

1598
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:18,519
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, I.

1599
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:19,280
Speaker 1: Got nothing to do with.

1600
01:12:22,120 --> 01:12:24,160
Speaker 2: And I could do that, And then so you're rich

1601
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:25,160
Speaker 2: rich right here.

1602
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,200
Speaker 1: Don't tell me about another rapper being rich and and

1603
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,360
Speaker 1: they can't because if they're rich, then they can relate

1604
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:32,920
Speaker 1: to that mob because I don't know a lot of

1605
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: stupid rich people. I don't know a lot of stupid

1606
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:37,680
Speaker 1: rich people. So they know right from wrong. And we

1607
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:39,240
Speaker 1: all know right from wrong because we all got that

1608
01:12:39,360 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: guard in us. Be wrong with it if it's not

1609
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: in this no more. We took it out ourselves all.

1610
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So you gotta know that.

1611
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,720
Speaker 1: They gotta know that, Like there's a brother. I'm just

1612
01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: giving I suppose there's a brother right there, and uh

1613
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:54,519
Speaker 1: he wanted but he's like, man, the one ain't gonna

1614
01:12:54,520 --> 01:12:56,439
Speaker 1: fuck with me. I'm drinking, you know what I'm saying.

1615
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 1: And maybe he was like, man, you know what, It

1616
01:12:59,520 --> 01:13:01,080
Speaker 1: gonna take time to get through to him.

1617
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:01,720
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1618
01:13:01,760 --> 01:13:04,160
Speaker 1: But we all want positive, don't nobody because you know

1619
01:13:04,240 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: what the example you said earlier, you was like, you know,

1620
01:13:08,960 --> 01:13:11,720
Speaker 1: no one wants to uh one grows up wanting to

1621
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,639
Speaker 1: be a stripper. And he also said, no one grows

1622
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,599
Speaker 1: up wanting to be a killer. What we should have said,

1623
01:13:19,680 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 1: all of us, no one wants our children to be that.

1624
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 1: Neither but everybody, but we're supposed to be a children

1625
01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:27,720
Speaker 1: what we call God's.

1626
01:13:27,479 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 4: Children children, you know what I'm saying.

1627
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:31,600
Speaker 1: So, like that's why that message to me is a

1628
01:13:31,640 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 1: little bit like I literally listen to me. I literally

1629
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,519
Speaker 1: listened to you in Big Bank, and I was like,

1630
01:13:37,360 --> 01:13:42,000
Speaker 1: I like, d one right, Bab's like yo, because Vega's

1631
01:13:42,040 --> 01:13:46,280
Speaker 1: like and and to a certain extent, I really really

1632
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,280
Speaker 1: it's really because like you know, when he said, like,

1633
01:13:49,400 --> 01:13:52,960
Speaker 1: we can't prove, we can't prove certain things. It's not facts, right,

1634
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 1: like like like like we I think y'all speaking about

1635
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: Jesus and you were like, well Jesus. He's like, but

1636
01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,960
Speaker 1: but Jesus he I think he said to you, but

1637
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,479
Speaker 1: Jesus was created as white.

1638
01:14:04,800 --> 01:14:06,960
Speaker 2: And then you said, but you know that picture ain't right.

1639
01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:09,320
Speaker 1: So he said, if they would change the picture to

1640
01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:13,799
Speaker 1: be wrong, why wouldn't they change the story. You understand

1641
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. So that's the reason why I'm telling you.

1642
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:19,560
Speaker 1: It's like your story is too strong for them to

1643
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:20,240
Speaker 1: try to change it.

1644
01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,280
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

1645
01:14:22,040 --> 01:14:25,120
Speaker 1: If they change it, then it's still your story. But

1646
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,120
Speaker 1: it's his story, his story now.

1647
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 2: And like for me, I seen it.

1648
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,080
Speaker 1: I seen it with you like I see it with you,

1649
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: and I see it that you know what, you're right,

1650
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:38,920
Speaker 1: you don't have to speak to everybody.

1651
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 2: Uh in a way.

1652
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: But but then why is it because like I said, like,

1653
01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:46,639
Speaker 1: I've never seen the church turn down somebody.

1654
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:49,240
Speaker 4: I never seen the church say yo, you know what

1655
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 4: you you stink?

1656
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,160
Speaker 1: Correct, you stink like a person who could come there

1657
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:55,880
Speaker 1: didn't shower in five days.

1658
01:14:56,160 --> 01:14:57,759
Speaker 4: And if the church is a church.

1659
01:14:57,760 --> 01:14:59,680
Speaker 1: They supposed to say, hey, brother, you ain't smelling right,

1660
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:01,880
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, we got to shower, Let

1661
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: us love, let us us let's give you the better feet.

1662
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:07,760
Speaker 1: You're in the bath, and let's let's do that. So

1663
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:09,960
Speaker 1: that's the reason why I wanted to say that to you.

1664
01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 4: Man. When I met the game for the first time, right,

1665
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,360
Speaker 4: this was a few months ago, all slow weekend, the

1666
01:15:16,479 --> 01:15:19,200
Speaker 4: game told me, he said, brother, he said, your mission

1667
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:22,200
Speaker 4: is so important, they said, this world, he said, just

1668
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:25,320
Speaker 4: don't resort to their tactics, right, right, Don't let people

1669
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:28,040
Speaker 4: pull you off of the path that you're on. Right,

1670
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 4: he said, because when all of our great leaders resorted

1671
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 4: to the tactics of their enemies, that's when they fell. Right.

1672
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 4: So for me, I'm always trying to lead with love.

1673
01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,600
Speaker 4: But the thing is, I love you so much that

1674
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:39,920
Speaker 4: I know you have better in you.

1675
01:15:40,600 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1676
01:15:41,360 --> 01:15:43,320
Speaker 4: I love you so much that I'm holding you accountable, Like,

1677
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 4: let me show you what my relationship is like with

1678
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:47,599
Speaker 4: hip hop. So I just performed that at Roland Loud

1679
01:15:48,360 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 4: after I did some press in some media, right, So

1680
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,840
Speaker 4: I went in the media attempt and they gave me

1681
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 4: this backpack. Right, so fire backpack. Most don't backpack I've

1682
01:15:57,200 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 4: had in.

1683
01:15:57,479 --> 01:15:58,000
Speaker 1: My whole life.

1684
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 4: It is big, It got all kind of all kind

1685
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 4: of different zippers and pockets, but the brand name is

1686
01:16:04,040 --> 01:16:08,840
Speaker 4: not something that I represent. Right, the brand y'all I got.

1687
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:16,200
Speaker 4: I got um right, and I realized that, man, sometimes

1688
01:16:16,360 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 4: we can love the product itself or we can, but

1689
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 4: we can disagree with with this represent you know what

1690
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,240
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So I acknowledge your talent. I love that

1691
01:16:27,360 --> 01:16:30,320
Speaker 4: you are an amazing artist. You're a genius, You're a lyricist.

1692
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 4: You a mogul, You're worth hundreds of millions of dollars.

1693
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,360
Speaker 4: I respect all our hip hop moguls, but I hate

1694
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:39,160
Speaker 4: what you representing. So it's like, how do I call it?

1695
01:16:39,439 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 4: I still use this bag, but I just cover off

1696
01:16:41,560 --> 01:16:42,160
Speaker 4: the brand name.

1697
01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:43,799
Speaker 1: You know, what I'm saying, I just cover.

1698
01:16:43,680 --> 01:16:46,040
Speaker 4: Off the brand name. And that's what we got going

1699
01:16:46,120 --> 01:16:46,800
Speaker 4: on in hip hop.

1700
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 3: Bro.

1701
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:50,040
Speaker 4: So when I think about stuff like nor you turned

1702
01:16:50,040 --> 01:16:51,840
Speaker 4: me up when I met you, Bro, I met you

1703
01:16:52,000 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 4: like six months ago. You really turned me up because

1704
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,080
Speaker 4: you said, young brother, you said you think you excited

1705
01:16:57,120 --> 01:16:59,280
Speaker 4: to me me, but you said, d one, I'm more

1706
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,080
Speaker 4: excited to me. You you said, because what you represent

1707
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 4: on the daily base positivity.

1708
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 2: A time you turned me off. And then this is

1709
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:08,000
Speaker 2: the crazy thing.

1710
01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 4: While Norri was telling me this and speaking life, then

1711
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 4: to me right, while Jesus is happening, Birdman, for the

1712
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,559
Speaker 4: first time in my life, calls my phone. Man been

1713
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:20,320
Speaker 4: halving my number but he never called me right, calls me.

1714
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:22,439
Speaker 4: At the same time Nori is talking to me. I

1715
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 4: answer the phone. Guess what Birdman? He says the same

1716
01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:29,120
Speaker 4: thing Nori is saying, Hey, young brother, I just wanted

1717
01:17:29,160 --> 01:17:31,599
Speaker 4: to tell you, man, keep going, Bro, what you're doing

1718
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 4: is going to change the world. You know what I

1719
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:37,800
Speaker 4: mean That moment right there, turn me up because you

1720
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:41,400
Speaker 4: might not always see in yourself with others seeing you.

1721
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 4: Because I go through tough times, man, I get opposed

1722
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:47,720
Speaker 4: every day on the internet. For trying to help us.

1723
01:17:48,240 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 4: It ain't easy. I've been suicidal before. Bro.

1724
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:53,479
Speaker 2: The critique Jesus, Yeah, they critique Jesus. You're right now,

1725
01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:54,439
Speaker 2: And that's a good reminder.

1726
01:17:54,720 --> 01:17:55,960
Speaker 1: I've been that dude to well.

1727
01:17:56,760 --> 01:17:59,000
Speaker 4: I got signed to RCA, I made it to the

1728
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:01,960
Speaker 4: BT hip Hop war Cipher right, and I'm like, man,

1729
01:18:02,160 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 4: these sixteen boys, I'm about to spit, gonna change the world, right,

1730
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,760
Speaker 4: So I'm putting all this pressure on myself. Dd it

1731
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 4: show opportunity to make it right. I'm having to let

1732
01:18:10,920 --> 01:18:13,120
Speaker 4: the label hear my verse ahead of time so they

1733
01:18:13,160 --> 01:18:15,559
Speaker 4: could approve of my message. And they saying, nah, don't

1734
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:18,280
Speaker 4: say that now, you shouldn't say that. And I'm sitting

1735
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:19,679
Speaker 4: here having the revised stuff.

1736
01:18:19,960 --> 01:18:21,760
Speaker 1: And by the time we got the label was about

1737
01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: to bet Cipher or the.

1738
01:18:23,120 --> 01:18:25,400
Speaker 4: Label, the label that I was signed to said they

1739
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:27,360
Speaker 4: had to approve of my verse that I was gonna

1740
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 4: spit on the BT site.

1741
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:29,840
Speaker 1: He had to approve it.

1742
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 4: Know that my label had to because they were saying

1743
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:33,519
Speaker 4: I was representing them.

1744
01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:35,559
Speaker 1: Okay, okay.

1745
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:38,080
Speaker 4: So by the time we go through these revisions and

1746
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 4: these little quirks and change this and adjust this bar,

1747
01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 4: I'm feeling like this ain't even really me. You know

1748
01:18:44,360 --> 01:18:45,760
Speaker 4: what I'm saying that I'm about to get up here

1749
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:48,680
Speaker 4: and represent with this verse. I get up there, I

1750
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:53,519
Speaker 4: wrapped the verse, and my life didn't change. The next

1751
01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 4: day I had a few thousand more followers online, but

1752
01:18:56,560 --> 01:18:59,519
Speaker 4: it was business as usual, and Bro, I felt like,

1753
01:18:59,680 --> 01:19:03,800
Speaker 4: I'm it's my big shot to make it right and

1754
01:19:05,439 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 4: give my message that point.

1755
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 2: Because the worst part about it.

1756
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 4: Was I felt like what I put out there wasn't

1757
01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,760
Speaker 4: even my message. It was a water down version with

1758
01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:16,600
Speaker 4: other people giving their input and saying, don't say this,

1759
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 4: say this. You got to change this. And the worst

1760
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 4: feeling is to not succeed for being somebody that you

1761
01:19:24,520 --> 01:19:28,280
Speaker 4: not even really proud of. You feel me, If I'm

1762
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 4: proud of who I am, and I felt, then all good,

1763
01:19:31,560 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 4: I'm at peace with that. But to not succeed and

1764
01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:36,760
Speaker 4: be a version of yourself that you wasn't even proud of, Man,

1765
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,160
Speaker 4: that stuff sent me down a spiral mentally, Bro. So

1766
01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 4: I was in depressions for like eighteen months, feeling like God,

1767
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,120
Speaker 4: I prayed for that opportunity to be on the BT.

1768
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:47,400
Speaker 2: Cycle and you gave it to me, and I went

1769
01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 2: up there with old water down version.

1770
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,680
Speaker 4: Of D one and I let other people get in

1771
01:19:51,760 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 4: my ear who don't know my mission and my vision.

1772
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:56,880
Speaker 4: And man, that right there, that was a turning point.

1773
01:19:56,920 --> 01:19:57,000
Speaker 3: Bro.

1774
01:19:57,120 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 4: I literally contemplated ending my whole life. Know what it's

1775
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,519
Speaker 4: like to be like dang, I know who I was

1776
01:20:02,600 --> 01:20:04,519
Speaker 4: called to be, but I'm not living up to that.

1777
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:06,679
Speaker 4: Well that's an uncomfortable feeling.

1778
01:20:06,720 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 1: Bro. Well, yes, you're doing a great job, man, doing

1779
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,479
Speaker 1: great doing a great job man, like you know, as

1780
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:14,240
Speaker 1: outside looking and at the inside of looking out, like

1781
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 1: I followed your message. I followed you. I know that

1782
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:19,000
Speaker 1: you needed. That's why when I seen you, I was like, yo,

1783
01:20:19,080 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 1: this is a great thing. I thought of him once

1784
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: we once we fully booked you because we had Atlanta,

1785
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:25,519
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know what, I need Hockey and.

1786
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,000
Speaker 2: Green to meet. I knew y'all didn't meet for some reason,

1787
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:28,960
Speaker 2: for some reason.

1788
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:30,720
Speaker 4: I knew y'all did because.

1789
01:20:30,720 --> 01:20:32,600
Speaker 1: Because like you're a virgin of him, like you a

1790
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,680
Speaker 1: version of him, like this is this is this is

1791
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: this is a positive brother.

1792
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

1793
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:37,280
Speaker 1: This is a good brother.

1794
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1795
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:41,720
Speaker 5: You know, salute to you. You know how full of

1796
01:20:41,800 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 5: our family over there. Yeah, Champion, especially especially because you

1797
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 5: call you bridge cultures. You bridge generations, bring different ideas, and.

1798
01:20:55,560 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 1: There's that the b ET Awards.

1799
01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 5: That was probably the time thousands of people ever heard

1800
01:21:01,880 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 5: of you, right Lawhouse. You put, include myself, especially myself,

1801
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:12,720
Speaker 5: put expectations on things. If you don't have expectations, you

1802
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 5: can't be disappointed. That was a moment in your whole career.

1803
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 5: So that was a building block more so than it

1804
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:23,400
Speaker 5: was a change the world moment. But then it wasn't

1805
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:26,040
Speaker 5: change the world moment for some people who that was

1806
01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:26,639
Speaker 5: the first time.

1807
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 2: That's true.

1808
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:28,680
Speaker 1: I argue with that.

1809
01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: That's a fact.

1810
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: Bro.

1811
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 4: At this point, I got so much freedom because I

1812
01:21:34,240 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 4: know that I'm just here to make God proud, and

1813
01:21:36,640 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 4: at some point God gonna be like, bet, job, well done,

1814
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 4: my good and faith for serving. I come on home

1815
01:21:42,120 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna be at peace with that. I don't

1816
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 4: care about having a unanimous approval rate. Nice. I'm not

1817
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:50,920
Speaker 4: a politician, So my message is going to rub some

1818
01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,439
Speaker 4: people the wrong way, even if I deliver it with love,

1819
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 4: you know what I mean.

1820
01:21:54,439 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: It's going to do that, and that's okay.

1821
01:21:56,439 --> 01:21:59,680
Speaker 4: But in hip hop we act like, you're wrong if

1822
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 4: you're going against the grain, right, we have to shift

1823
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 4: our culture. Our culture has glorified too much negativity.

1824
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,680
Speaker 1: For too long. So I believe that's more of America's

1825
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: problem than that's America's problem.

1826
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 2: But hip hop does take a place in that. I

1827
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:14,920
Speaker 2: agree with you.

1828
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:17,560
Speaker 4: So shout out to my brother pet Pools. Okay, you

1829
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,880
Speaker 4: watched Pet Poos and my other brother Saigon, Right.

1830
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 2: Okay, I'll see you here in New York. I was

1831
01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 2: hanging out of Holly Yeah.

1832
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:25,320
Speaker 4: Yes, And I just featured on the record for Saigon

1833
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:28,559
Speaker 4: right dope record. That being said, I watched Pet Pools

1834
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,559
Speaker 4: and Saiguyn on the show, and I saw my name

1835
01:22:30,640 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 4: came up and pet Post said, I love d One.

1836
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:35,800
Speaker 4: I rock with him. I met him, but I think

1837
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,639
Speaker 4: that he blames hip hop too much for our problems

1838
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 4: that we have. He said some along those lines right

1839
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,120
Speaker 4: about me blaming hip hop. My thing is this hip

1840
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 4: hop is the most powerful voice that the black and

1841
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 4: brown community have.

1842
01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 2: It's the most powerful voice.

1843
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 4: So what are we choosing to say with it? And

1844
01:22:52,439 --> 01:22:55,439
Speaker 4: hip hop? If you're rapping something positive or something righteous,

1845
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:57,040
Speaker 4: you're considered a minority.

1846
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:58,280
Speaker 2: That's a problem.

1847
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,599
Speaker 4: Bro, if hip hop was doing his job, it would

1848
01:23:00,720 --> 01:23:03,880
Speaker 4: use all this power, all this wealth that we've accumulated

1849
01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 4: to actually help change the conditions of our community.

1850
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:07,720
Speaker 2: I want to point out.

1851
01:23:08,120 --> 01:23:10,519
Speaker 1: I want to point out there has been groups that

1852
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:14,200
Speaker 1: represented like you had native tongue, you had tribe called

1853
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:19,599
Speaker 1: quest Uh, you got Channel Live, you have uh Tyler quality,

1854
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: you got Kanye West out. I don't see Pharrell and

1855
01:23:24,520 --> 01:23:31,000
Speaker 1: and the Neptunes. H what black black thought? Uh pat

1856
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 1: poofs I loaded looks loaded lucks. I can see, I

1857
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: can loaded luck. I don't think murder mok fishing that.

1858
01:23:37,960 --> 01:23:42,799
Speaker 1: But but like I I see that that that culture trying.

1859
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 1: It's it's it's more of Lincoln. And it's like I said,

1860
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:48,840
Speaker 1: it's like all of us know better, all of us

1861
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,080
Speaker 1: want want to be positive. Some of us just don't

1862
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:56,240
Speaker 1: know how to get to that that I because some

1863
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 1: of us don't like listen, listen, we gotta break it

1864
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:02,920
Speaker 1: some of us. Some of us, some of us know

1865
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,360
Speaker 1: how to get to the movie theater block and don't

1866
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 1: know how to buy the tickets to the movies and something.

1867
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Like, so sometimes you got

1868
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: to say your look, look man, you're waiting outside. I

1869
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:14,960
Speaker 1: got your ticket coming to the movie theater with me.

1870
01:24:15,200 --> 01:24:17,040
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, and buy the ticket.

1871
01:24:17,240 --> 01:24:18,040
Speaker 4: Some some some.

1872
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,720
Speaker 1: Know right from wrong, but some don't know how to

1873
01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:24,840
Speaker 1: apply right from wrong. You understand I'm saying, like you

1874
01:24:24,960 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 1: feel it. You feel it when you're doing something wrong.

1875
01:24:26,840 --> 01:24:29,719
Speaker 1: You feel it when you're doing something right. But also

1876
01:24:30,560 --> 01:24:33,599
Speaker 1: also we are we are not perfect. Some people need

1877
01:24:33,680 --> 01:24:35,680
Speaker 1: to be like, yo, look man, you know I love

1878
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 1: how you did this part. Well, Yo, look look you

1879
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:39,800
Speaker 1: when you do this man, you know what I mean?

1880
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: Like like me, I'm trying to work on not saying

1881
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,639
Speaker 1: the end wall. I'm trying my best, but it's still

1882
01:24:45,840 --> 01:24:48,639
Speaker 1: like and it's a natural response, just like why niggah

1883
01:24:48,680 --> 01:24:49,320
Speaker 1: shiit my bad?

1884
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 2: So we started doing ten push ups?

1885
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 4: Nice right, everybody?

1886
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: Everybody know that. So we started doing ten to.

1887
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:58,120
Speaker 1: Fifteen push ups and then and then the person who

1888
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: catch you now says, now we give them the right,

1889
01:25:01,479 --> 01:25:03,120
Speaker 1: like if I can, you know, D want just court

1890
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,200
Speaker 1: you saying I get to tell you like under fifty

1891
01:25:06,280 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: push ups, but I get to tell you I want

1892
01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:08,519
Speaker 1: forty nine.

1893
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, so like.

1894
01:25:11,840 --> 01:25:13,680
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is I didn't know how

1895
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:15,240
Speaker 1: to get there. I didn't know how to stop saying

1896
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 1: but I know that I don't like doing push up

1897
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:20,320
Speaker 1: some fucking times square, right, right? Do it?

1898
01:25:20,720 --> 01:25:20,960
Speaker 4: Okay?

1899
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 1: Someone at first is looking at me and saying, hey, hey,

1900
01:25:24,439 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 1: you owe me forty like I'm saying back, And then

1901
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:30,160
Speaker 1: I'm consciously like if I'm doing an interview, that's what

1902
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: I'm doing an interview, And a couple of my boys

1903
01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:36,439
Speaker 1: be sitting there and I say nigga twice they're putting

1904
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 1: up nice Yeah automatically, I go, oh, okay, cause I

1905
01:25:40,680 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: didn't know how to stop it so.

1906
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,840
Speaker 4: Automatical yeah yeah, yeah, oh my god.

1907
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:48,880
Speaker 1: So so I stopped, I'll stop, and it's conscious. But

1908
01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: to tell you the truth, I didn't know how to

1909
01:25:50,960 --> 01:25:54,679
Speaker 1: get there. I needed something consequence, yes I needed something.

1910
01:25:54,920 --> 01:25:57,400
Speaker 4: And now accountability, yes I needed something.

1911
01:25:57,200 --> 01:26:00,720
Speaker 1: But but it was but I needed it like I

1912
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: couldn't come up with it on my own. So some

1913
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: of us we need to be talked to. No are

1914
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:05,600
Speaker 1: you saying it?

1915
01:26:05,760 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 4: We need accountability in our culture, bro, And people resist

1916
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:13,120
Speaker 4: accountability because they have been rewarded for ratchetness. You feel

1917
01:26:13,160 --> 01:26:17,040
Speaker 4: me like, literally, people have been rewarded for pushing negative messages.

1918
01:26:17,200 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 4: So now when somebody's coming along like, hey, man, you

1919
01:26:19,479 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 4: think that's a good message to send to our kids

1920
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,800
Speaker 4: and our youth, and they're like, oh, he's a hater.

1921
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:26,080
Speaker 4: All he getting on my nerves?

1922
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 1: Brother?

1923
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,720
Speaker 4: It's accountability, brother, that's what we need. How So I'm

1924
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:31,799
Speaker 4: asking y'all because it's a three step process.

1925
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: I teach a.

1926
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,880
Speaker 4: College course on this, right, yeah, yeah, So in my

1927
01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:38,640
Speaker 4: college course, it talks about how do you create a

1928
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 4: new norm in society? Right, It's three steps. The first

1929
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 4: step is motivation, The second step is deliberation. The third

1930
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,439
Speaker 4: step is normalization. Let me break that down. Motivation means

1931
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:55,080
Speaker 4: you just need a few loud, committed voices who are saying, hey,

1932
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,560
Speaker 4: this system is broken, and y'all not finna make me

1933
01:26:58,640 --> 01:26:59,280
Speaker 4: think I'm crazy.

1934
01:26:59,360 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: We can do better.

1935
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:02,599
Speaker 4: You need a few people. I'm one of them people

1936
01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 4: that gonna keep saying it, bro, it's broken. This ain't

1937
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:08,120
Speaker 4: hip hop. This is hypocritical hip right now, right, you

1938
01:27:08,240 --> 01:27:11,799
Speaker 4: need that. Then you need people who can say, Okay,

1939
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 4: now we're gonna have some accountability that we're looking to

1940
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:18,719
Speaker 4: restore and bring to the forefront. Right, that's the motivation stage.

1941
01:27:18,800 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 2: Hey, the system is broken.

1942
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,719
Speaker 4: Let's bring some accountability, and you got to keep saying

1943
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:26,439
Speaker 4: it right. The second stage is deliberation. It's when people

1944
01:27:26,479 --> 01:27:28,519
Speaker 4: start to say, you know what, he might be right,

1945
01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:30,679
Speaker 4: he might have a point. Now he got me thinking,

1946
01:27:31,040 --> 01:27:33,519
Speaker 4: you know what I mean when people start to deliberate. Now,

1947
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,240
Speaker 4: you got to have a new reward system. Now people

1948
01:27:36,320 --> 01:27:39,400
Speaker 4: got to see d one made it to drink chaps

1949
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:44,599
Speaker 4: without compromising. Oh that's five. Yeah, that gives me hope. Yeah. Right,

1950
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 4: So people got to say, wait, the reward system is

1951
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 4: showing that being righteous and standing true to your morals

1952
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:55,120
Speaker 4: and your convictions could actually help you elevate, right, elevation

1953
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:57,640
Speaker 4: without compromising. We got to show people that there's a

1954
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,800
Speaker 4: new reward system. So people deliberate about and they'd be like, dang,

1955
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:01,800
Speaker 4: maybe we could do better.

1956
01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 2: Dan, another rapper got murdered.

1957
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 4: Dang, another rapper catching a rico charge.

1958
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:08,719
Speaker 2: Dang, another female just making vagina music?

1959
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:09,160
Speaker 3: You heard me?

1960
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:11,519
Speaker 4: Like, what is we doing? And it starts to click

1961
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:15,680
Speaker 4: and people deliberating. The third step is normalization. That's when

1962
01:28:15,720 --> 01:28:18,519
Speaker 4: we all the ways start doing something different and people

1963
01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:22,160
Speaker 4: stop resisting and hanging on to the past. What's what's

1964
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 4: happening right now, is you got rappers, no disrespect, you

1965
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 4: got rappers.

1966
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:29,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you got rappers.

1967
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,640
Speaker 4: You got rappers who are massively successful by the world standards. Man,

1968
01:28:33,640 --> 01:28:37,360
Speaker 4: I'm platinum, man, I'm a multi millionaire. Right then they

1969
01:28:37,439 --> 01:28:40,040
Speaker 4: late forties, they in their fifties, there in they sixties,

1970
01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 4: and now they feel like the last thing I'm gonna

1971
01:28:42,920 --> 01:28:46,360
Speaker 4: do is changed for some younger dude that's coming along

1972
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:48,840
Speaker 4: or a new movement that's trying to say that what

1973
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:51,600
Speaker 4: I got reach and famous off of was wrong. But

1974
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:54,920
Speaker 4: the devil can elevate you too. Lord, that's a hard

1975
01:28:55,000 --> 01:28:58,040
Speaker 4: thing to comprehend. I know as I say that, no

1976
01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 4: recringeing avery, understand. Listen, bro, listen, bro, there are a

1977
01:29:02,680 --> 01:29:05,559
Speaker 4: lot of people who have been elevated. Bro. Adolf Hitler

1978
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:09,280
Speaker 4: was elevated, but he was demonic. You feel me. Jeffrey

1979
01:29:09,320 --> 01:29:11,280
Speaker 4: Epstein elevated, demonic.

1980
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,200
Speaker 1: So we can't look at platform to magnified. There you go, just.

1981
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:18,080
Speaker 4: Because something thank you, brother, just because something has been

1982
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:20,840
Speaker 4: platformed and magnified. We got to come along and find

1983
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 4: a way to say, listen, brother, you're a legend. But

1984
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,080
Speaker 4: you're a legend at what are you a legend? At

1985
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:30,519
Speaker 4: making murder music. Are you a legend at making music that.

1986
01:29:30,680 --> 01:29:33,160
Speaker 1: Make it cool to sell cocaine to your community?

1987
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:36,759
Speaker 4: Are you a legend at talking about how many women

1988
01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:38,800
Speaker 4: you ran through it? How many dudes baby mamas you

1989
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 4: slept with? And that's a humbling thought when people be like, man,

1990
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:44,560
Speaker 4: it's very comfortable to just sit here and be celebrated

1991
01:29:44,600 --> 01:29:47,040
Speaker 4: all my life. And what's going on right now is

1992
01:29:47,120 --> 01:29:49,679
Speaker 4: we're in step one, which is the motivation phase.

1993
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 6: Bro.

1994
01:29:50,200 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 4: People like Norris said, people know that something ain't right.

1995
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,639
Speaker 4: Why all these rabbeers keep getting killed while all these

1996
01:29:56,720 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 4: rappers keep catching charges while the street code the people

1997
01:30:00,160 --> 01:30:02,559
Speaker 4: move the gold post. What's a snitch? Did he snitch?

1998
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:03,120
Speaker 4: Weight he talked to?

1999
01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 2: No, that's not a snitch.

2000
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,759
Speaker 4: Did he snitch? Wait? And this is what we're talking

2001
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,560
Speaker 4: about on a daily basis in hip hop host slept with?

2002
01:30:09,760 --> 01:30:12,880
Speaker 4: What rapper baby mama? And dot what sex tape leaked?

2003
01:30:13,439 --> 01:30:15,320
Speaker 4: And this is our call is this is the best

2004
01:30:15,360 --> 01:30:17,519
Speaker 4: that we got to offer to the world. People know

2005
01:30:17,640 --> 01:30:19,680
Speaker 4: that there's more than this, but they don't know what

2006
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:23,080
Speaker 4: the difference looks like, right. They don't know what the

2007
01:30:23,200 --> 01:30:25,400
Speaker 4: new normal is gonna have to look like. And That's

2008
01:30:25,439 --> 01:30:28,560
Speaker 4: what I'm here to say, Bro, you can still be celebrated.

2009
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,840
Speaker 4: We just got to celebrate a different side of you.

2010
01:30:31,160 --> 01:30:33,680
Speaker 4: Let's celebrate the side of Lil Wayne that got the

2011
01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:36,439
Speaker 4: whole hood on the skateboard. Let's celebrate the side of

2012
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 4: Lil Wayne that's the lyrical genius that's talking about God

2013
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 4: bless the dead, losing his daddy Rabbit, or talking about

2014
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 4: coming up from Holly Grove now being a multi millionaire

2015
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:46,200
Speaker 4: and being a wordsmith.

2016
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:47,559
Speaker 2: Let's celebrate that side.

2017
01:30:47,800 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 4: But let's not celebrate the side that, as a man

2018
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 4: in his forties, it's still glorifying murder in his music,

2019
01:30:53,320 --> 01:30:58,400
Speaker 4: still glorifying doing drugs or selling drug Like, let's be

2020
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,839
Speaker 4: selective as to what we chose to magnify and elevate.

2021
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 1: I agree with that in totality, Like I remember when

2022
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:09,639
Speaker 1: jay Z said let's stop wearing throwback in the store

2023
01:31:09,680 --> 01:31:12,040
Speaker 1: and the butt like everybody did it, and everybody did it,

2024
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,800
Speaker 1: and I felt like that was a plus and hip hop.

2025
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:17,000
Speaker 1: I felt like when he did four four four it

2026
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:20,040
Speaker 1: was a plus and hip hop. But you got to realize, Uh,

2027
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,560
Speaker 1: Jay is at that level where he don't have the

2028
01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: answer to nobody. I'm not to say that. Let to say,

2029
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 1: these other artists have to answer to somebody. But it's

2030
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: just like you said, if they did that to you

2031
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:31,720
Speaker 1: on a lower level and they asked you, yo, let

2032
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:34,200
Speaker 1: me hear your vocals before you go to bet.

2033
01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 2: I can't tell you definitively that they're doing things like that.

2034
01:31:37,600 --> 01:31:37,720
Speaker 1: Now.

2035
01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:38,640
Speaker 4: I can't say it.

2036
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,599
Speaker 1: Because I'm not on a record label like no more

2037
01:31:40,680 --> 01:31:44,240
Speaker 1: like this is what I'm doing. But I could definitively

2038
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: tell you, like at one point when we would go

2039
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:49,640
Speaker 1: to Paris, like we would have to have security. We

2040
01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:52,240
Speaker 1: would have to have it because insurance purposes. So I

2041
01:31:52,320 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 1: didn't even know I had an insurance policy on me.

2042
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 1: So this is what I'm trying to tell you is

2043
01:31:55,600 --> 01:31:59,920
Speaker 1: like like certain of these record labels, you might put

2044
01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: anything with two and say this is my two singles,

2045
01:32:02,720 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 1: and one might say pop that couci, and one might

2046
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:09,320
Speaker 1: say pop your collar because we were And one might

2047
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:11,800
Speaker 1: be a positive message and one might be.

2048
01:32:13,520 --> 01:32:14,519
Speaker 2: A negative message.

2049
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: But it's crazy because as much power as we have,

2050
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:20,560
Speaker 1: like how you're saying, hip hop is, you know, the

2051
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 1: most influential culture, as much as we have, I can't

2052
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 1: lie to you a motherfucker be scared to not know

2053
01:32:28,439 --> 01:32:31,120
Speaker 1: that that that that normal dollar is there. And I

2054
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:32,760
Speaker 1: know that this is not about the dollar. This is

2055
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,080
Speaker 1: about unpoisoning our people and moving forward. I noticed it

2056
01:32:36,160 --> 01:32:39,840
Speaker 1: about but you know it's it's like that part is

2057
01:32:39,960 --> 01:32:45,479
Speaker 1: hard because there's a lot of people who who will

2058
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:49,080
Speaker 1: will present these records and these records not working. The

2059
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:51,760
Speaker 1: record label say I told you so, right, and we

2060
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:52,640
Speaker 1: shouldn't catered to them.

2061
01:32:52,680 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 2: I agree with that too, I told you so.

2062
01:32:54,680 --> 01:32:58,519
Speaker 1: But what are they saying today today, today, wives, today today,

2063
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:00,679
Speaker 1: when they say, a man, this is not the same

2064
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:02,599
Speaker 1: for you, no more, like you ain't you you ain't

2065
01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:04,320
Speaker 1: you ain't you ain't bringing home the money, no more,

2066
01:33:04,360 --> 01:33:06,400
Speaker 1: you ain't bringing home this or you're not you're not

2067
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 1: even you're not even in the algorithms of what's going on.

2068
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,240
Speaker 1: Like I can see your point, but I also want

2069
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,640
Speaker 1: to be God's advocate and say you know what, like

2070
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,559
Speaker 1: I can, I don't want to say like I can

2071
01:33:18,600 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 1: see certain people folding when when when certain things don't

2072
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:23,360
Speaker 1: work and a person is going to them and say,

2073
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,840
Speaker 1: well it ain't work because you ain't do this, like

2074
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,840
Speaker 1: like for me, I'm sorry, I'm not trying to make

2075
01:33:28,840 --> 01:33:32,719
Speaker 1: this example for me, but for me, and I noticed,

2076
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:37,559
Speaker 1: is gonna sound a little crazy? Uh. L A Reid

2077
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: had took over Depth Jam in between mine. I had

2078
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 1: had a record call with Little John uh and Ashanti

2079
01:33:48,120 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: on it, and I.

2080
01:33:50,960 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 2: Forget what it was called.

2081
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 1: It was like I was following the Little John movement,

2082
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,280
Speaker 1: you know, little jobs. So whatever it was called, I was.

2083
01:33:56,360 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 1: You can look it up. It has that Little John

2084
01:33:57,960 --> 01:33:59,439
Speaker 1: North featuring Little John and Ashanti.

2085
01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:02,280
Speaker 2: So I went, I love this record.

2086
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: Right. L A Red had beef with IRV Gotti at

2087
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,320
Speaker 1: the time, like they was having a misunderstanding. They was

2088
01:34:11,360 --> 01:34:15,120
Speaker 1: having something and her shanty was signed to IRV Gotti

2089
01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:17,080
Speaker 1: at the time. For here, so l A Red is

2090
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:20,280
Speaker 1: telling me, hey, man, I'd rather you use this record.

2091
01:34:20,320 --> 01:34:22,960
Speaker 1: This is called am a G. This is a totally different.

2092
01:34:22,760 --> 01:34:25,759
Speaker 2: Record from this. I had this like, what's it called.

2093
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: Only one?

2094
01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:32,519
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2095
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 2: There you go.

2096
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, so young boy, young girl look at to l

2097
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:43,000
Speaker 1: A Red picked am a G right now. I had

2098
01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 1: had the choice. It was just like, you know, I

2099
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:51,280
Speaker 1: pick is also produced by Pharrell. Ironically, I got that

2100
01:34:51,439 --> 01:34:56,160
Speaker 1: wow that I'm a young boy, young girl right. So

2101
01:34:56,960 --> 01:34:59,960
Speaker 1: we hey young girl boy, young girl. We told them

2102
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,200
Speaker 1: the big up that Obviously that was kind of like

2103
01:35:02,520 --> 01:35:05,040
Speaker 1: positive too. I didn't even repeat that. But La Reid

2104
01:35:05,479 --> 01:35:07,760
Speaker 1: picked am A G. But La re didn't pick I

2105
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 1: don't think he picked am A G because that.

2106
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 2: Was the right record. He picked it because he.

2107
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,720
Speaker 1: Didn't want to have to deal with IRV Gardi at

2108
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:18,400
Speaker 1: that time and what uh and Ashanti was doing. But

2109
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 1: I had a choice.

2110
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 2: I had a choice.

2111
01:35:20,840 --> 01:35:22,720
Speaker 1: I could have easily said, yo, I wanted to go

2112
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:23,840
Speaker 1: with young boy, young girl.

2113
01:35:24,040 --> 01:35:25,320
Speaker 2: But I'm sitting there like, this is my.

2114
01:35:25,360 --> 01:35:28,160
Speaker 1: First time me and l A Reed is my first time,

2115
01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: and is it the first time I meet this man?

2116
01:35:30,479 --> 01:35:32,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell him no, that's a business decision, you.

2117
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:33,960
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying. It was like kind of like

2118
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 2: and I knew I'm a G was not the right record.

2119
01:35:36,280 --> 01:35:39,000
Speaker 1: I look at that record to this day and I'm like, damn, bro,

2120
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:40,559
Speaker 1: I got tricks, you know what I'm saying. I don't

2121
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,240
Speaker 1: want to say I got tricked. I had a choice,

2122
01:35:44,200 --> 01:35:46,080
Speaker 1: but I felt like I didn't have a choice. You

2123
01:35:46,600 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 1: ever have somebody to give you an alternative, but you

2124
01:35:48,439 --> 01:35:49,760
Speaker 1: know it's not really an alternative.

2125
01:35:50,040 --> 01:35:51,520
Speaker 4: You know, they want to go against.

2126
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:54,040
Speaker 1: Him, and then it's gonna be like that. So, like

2127
01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,480
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, I dealt with that. But imagine, imagine

2128
01:35:58,520 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 1: these people who who right now d one. They don't

2129
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:05,720
Speaker 1: even need them for videos. I've seen a video of

2130
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:08,840
Speaker 1: me and I was like, is that me? Like I've

2131
01:36:08,880 --> 01:36:11,200
Speaker 1: seeing the body of the trouble. No, these choosing a

2132
01:36:11,240 --> 01:36:12,960
Speaker 1: whole video, the whole.

2133
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 4: Video with me.

2134
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:17,840
Speaker 1: I had to get, you know what I'm saying. So like,

2135
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:20,519
Speaker 1: just think about a record label right now, who got

2136
01:36:20,720 --> 01:36:22,560
Speaker 1: the young man like they own it. They could do

2137
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:24,800
Speaker 1: what they want, They got a young man image, they

2138
01:36:24,920 --> 01:36:27,560
Speaker 1: signed three sixty, They could get everything, and then the

2139
01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,519
Speaker 1: record label gives them this choice, this alternative and says, yo,

2140
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,720
Speaker 1: look man, you go with rewind or you go with

2141
01:36:34,240 --> 01:36:37,400
Speaker 1: cannabis and what is yours? And that young man says

2142
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: the wrong thing. Whether they like it or not, they

2143
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:41,759
Speaker 1: could probably still use that image.

2144
01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:43,960
Speaker 2: This is what's messed up.

2145
01:36:44,320 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 1: There's good things about AI, but then this is bad

2146
01:36:46,240 --> 01:36:49,679
Speaker 1: things about AI. And these record labels they're not gonna

2147
01:36:49,680 --> 01:36:52,720
Speaker 1: play with these young people. They look at they say

2148
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:55,360
Speaker 1: that as soon as you get signed, they're looking to

2149
01:36:55,439 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 1: sign someone else. It's because you have a you have

2150
01:36:58,360 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 1: a life shelf, like you have a shelf life yet

2151
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:03,240
Speaker 1: on this and it's gotten works and worse because the

2152
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:04,880
Speaker 1: music has became disposable.

2153
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:06,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, more microwave, you know what I'm saying. So, like,

2154
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 2: what do you feel about that?

2155
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:13,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I feel like we have to understand our

2156
01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 4: purpose in life is not to make money by any

2157
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,639
Speaker 4: means necessary. Our purpose in life is to make God proud.

2158
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,799
Speaker 4: You can't know what your purpose is without being connected

2159
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:25,840
Speaker 4: to your creator. So if you know your purpose before

2160
01:37:25,880 --> 01:37:28,479
Speaker 4: you get signed or before you start making music, then

2161
01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 4: no matter what's gonna pop off in the world's eyes,

2162
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,879
Speaker 4: you're knowing why you were given this gift in this platform.

2163
01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:38,200
Speaker 2: Right So that right there makes it to where if.

2164
01:37:38,200 --> 01:37:41,000
Speaker 4: I'm not supposed to make it, then our rather God say,

2165
01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:42,920
Speaker 4: d one, you're not supposed to be a rapper no more,

2166
01:37:42,960 --> 01:37:44,720
Speaker 4: because I can use you more effectively in.

2167
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:45,599
Speaker 2: A different profession.

2168
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:48,639
Speaker 4: You get some people who feel like the only purpose

2169
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 4: on earth is to rap, So that means I got

2170
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 4: to say whatever the people want in order for me

2171
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:53,640
Speaker 4: to make it.

2172
01:37:53,880 --> 01:37:54,479
Speaker 2: That's the problem.

2173
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:54,600
Speaker 1: Bro.

2174
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 4: We should never be a slave to a profession, and

2175
01:37:57,600 --> 01:37:59,719
Speaker 4: you got so many people that's like, Bro, I gotta

2176
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 4: wrap by any mean is necessary. No, you don't go

2177
01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:06,639
Speaker 4: get it. Hit me out. Let me say hit me out.

2178
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:13,280
Speaker 1: So in this game, Chris Lighty, my manager passed away, right,

2179
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:14,679
Speaker 1: passed away, Rest in peace.

2180
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:15,840
Speaker 4: He was your manager.

2181
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, yes, violator records. When I was in college.

2182
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 4: Now to cut you off, I used to intern Forizarre Entertainments.

2183
01:38:26,640 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 4: That's crazy, okay.

2184
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:28,840
Speaker 1: So look, so let me tell you what he used

2185
01:38:28,840 --> 01:38:32,000
Speaker 1: to tell me. And this is a famous thing in

2186
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 1: the industry. He just always say, you do one for them,

2187
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 1: and then you do one for us. You do one

2188
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: for like, you do one for them like, and then

2189
01:38:39,800 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 1: you do one for me, and they do that even

2190
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:46,439
Speaker 1: with movies like like I believe Ryan Coogler said that

2191
01:38:46,520 --> 01:38:49,519
Speaker 1: he had to do one movie that the studio approved

2192
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 1: and then he did did the other movies. And that's

2193
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:56,120
Speaker 1: how this industry is. Sometimes sometimes it's like, yo, you

2194
01:38:56,200 --> 01:38:58,960
Speaker 1: know what story for you? Okay, you do you do

2195
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:02,680
Speaker 1: one for them and then because that's most, that's the most.

2196
01:39:02,720 --> 01:39:05,280
Speaker 1: That example, I just did you do the one for them?

2197
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:08,040
Speaker 1: It works? And now I'd say, well, now I want

2198
01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:11,719
Speaker 1: to drop my my positive thing and no, but what happened?

2199
01:39:11,920 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 1: I mean at times like I've been I've been able

2200
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:15,879
Speaker 1: to do that. I've been able to get away.

2201
01:39:15,720 --> 01:39:16,840
Speaker 2: With that and gave them one.

2202
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like my first single was supposed to be

2203
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: banned from TV.

2204
01:39:20,680 --> 01:39:22,080
Speaker 2: Then they didn't want my last single.

2205
01:39:22,200 --> 01:39:25,080
Speaker 1: Then when I played Superdug, which you said, cocka span

2206
01:39:25,160 --> 01:39:28,599
Speaker 1: you you know what, they said to me, this record

2207
01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:31,479
Speaker 1: is too dark the DJ. So if you look at

2208
01:39:31,520 --> 01:39:34,519
Speaker 1: that video, I did that video in bright I did

2209
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,479
Speaker 1: it in the daytime on purpose because they said my

2210
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:37,479
Speaker 1: record is too dark.

2211
01:39:38,040 --> 01:39:41,080
Speaker 2: And they actually went with n O R, which.

2212
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 4: Was the darkest record on the album.

2213
01:39:43,680 --> 01:39:46,040
Speaker 1: They were say because track masters produced it and at

2214
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 1: the time, track missiles were still hot, you know what

2215
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:49,599
Speaker 1: I'm saying. So I had to give them one.

2216
01:39:49,840 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 2: But guess what.

2217
01:39:50,600 --> 01:39:52,320
Speaker 1: Had I went with my one, which is the super

2218
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:54,280
Speaker 1: Dug which you were talking about, I would have went platinum,

2219
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,360
Speaker 1: off top. So I had to go off slow platinum

2220
01:39:56,360 --> 01:39:59,280
Speaker 1: because and O R was like it was against the record.

2221
01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:01,439
Speaker 1: It was against nothing album, but it was against the record.

2222
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:04,040
Speaker 1: So I've been able to be successful like that. I've

2223
01:40:04,040 --> 01:40:05,800
Speaker 1: been able to say, all right, cool, I gave you

2224
01:40:05,920 --> 01:40:08,439
Speaker 1: t and why now give me bloody money? You know

2225
01:40:08,479 --> 01:40:10,960
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like I gave you this, so what

2226
01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,120
Speaker 1: do you say to people like that, I'm a compromise

2227
01:40:14,280 --> 01:40:19,360
Speaker 1: or you should you know what I'm saying.

2228
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 4: I know you know that. I'm gonna tell you million.

2229
01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:23,559
Speaker 4: I used to be in middle school mat teacher. Yes,

2230
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 4: what is two minus two? What's four minus four zero?

2231
01:40:33,439 --> 01:40:35,320
Speaker 2: What's ten minus ten zero?

2232
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:36,560
Speaker 1: So my thing is this.

2233
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 4: Whenever we're saying, hey, man, I gave them that negativity

2234
01:40:40,280 --> 01:40:41,600
Speaker 4: so I could do some positivity.

2235
01:40:42,120 --> 01:40:47,160
Speaker 2: We the record, I think usually could be yes, yes in.

2236
01:40:47,200 --> 01:40:51,000
Speaker 4: A nutshell right. So here's my thing. We talk about balance.

2237
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:53,920
Speaker 4: We need balance in the game. No, we don't need

2238
01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,639
Speaker 4: balance in the game. We don't need any negativity glorified period.

2239
01:40:58,120 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 4: If you serve the industry, they're we're going to say,

2240
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:04,240
Speaker 4: we do need balance. We need five drill rappers, so

2241
01:41:04,360 --> 01:41:06,680
Speaker 4: we need one positive rapper that will help, you know,

2242
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:09,360
Speaker 4: balance it off a little bit. In God's eyes, He's like, no,

2243
01:41:09,640 --> 01:41:12,120
Speaker 4: there's no such thing as I want a whole bunch

2244
01:41:12,160 --> 01:41:14,599
Speaker 4: of negativity and then I want the positivity to come

2245
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:16,880
Speaker 4: balance it off. That's the issue. You got people that

2246
01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,439
Speaker 4: serve in the industry and you got people that serving God,

2247
01:41:19,760 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 4: and it makes you make different decisions based on where

2248
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 4: the industry told me this. The industry said, if I

2249
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,800
Speaker 4: put this type of single out, then I get to

2250
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:31,000
Speaker 4: put a more positive single out after God says man,

2251
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,680
Speaker 4: use your gifts to serve me twenty four seven, three

2252
01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 4: sixty five. That don't mean you can't be creative and

2253
01:41:36,320 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 4: talk about negative things, but you won't glorify those negative things.

2254
01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:43,920
Speaker 4: That's my outlook. So we got all these industry compromises

2255
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:47,400
Speaker 4: that make sense from logical terms, like, yeah, that makes sense.

2256
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,599
Speaker 4: But bro, while we got so many rappers that are

2257
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:53,599
Speaker 4: dead and in the graveyard now, but you could say,

2258
01:41:53,640 --> 01:41:55,760
Speaker 4: but they had a positive song on the album. They

2259
01:41:55,800 --> 01:41:58,000
Speaker 4: had a positive song with that cool, But it's like,

2260
01:41:58,200 --> 01:42:00,160
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, bro, there's life and

2261
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:02,080
Speaker 4: death in the power of the tone. So why do

2262
01:42:02,200 --> 01:42:04,840
Speaker 4: we want to give any power to evil in negativity?

2263
01:42:05,280 --> 01:42:10,160
Speaker 1: Okay? So I'm with you, not against you at all.

2264
01:42:10,439 --> 01:42:14,759
Speaker 5: And I noticed struggle of being a conscious positive rapper.

2265
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:15,720
Speaker 1: We had a.

2266
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:19,920
Speaker 5: Major label deal, right, but we stuck to our guns.

2267
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:25,960
Speaker 5: We didn't waiver, we didn't but and then we was Ghosts.

2268
01:42:27,280 --> 01:42:29,559
Speaker 5: So our first single, Madism, that was the biggest record

2269
01:42:29,600 --> 01:42:29,880
Speaker 5: we had.

2270
01:42:30,160 --> 01:42:30,280
Speaker 4: Right.

2271
01:42:30,479 --> 01:42:37,080
Speaker 5: It's about weed right still to this day, being tough

2272
01:42:37,120 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 5: because I was a school teacher. I didn't want to

2273
01:42:39,080 --> 01:42:41,479
Speaker 5: put out a record about we We had a record

2274
01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:45,679
Speaker 5: called Cause. It was called what Cause and Effect about

2275
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:48,720
Speaker 5: not saying the word nigga and bitch wow. That's what

2276
01:42:48,840 --> 01:42:52,000
Speaker 5: we wanted the first single to be. We thought held

2277
01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:54,240
Speaker 5: our ground. They was like, listen, we're gonna send out

2278
01:42:54,280 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 5: this test press, but we're gonna let the DJ decie

2279
01:42:57,720 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 5: and the DJ's overwhelmingly said madis was the first single

2280
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:01,840
Speaker 5: that was that the.

2281
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:03,320
Speaker 2: Algorithm storry from back then.

2282
01:43:04,920 --> 01:43:06,719
Speaker 1: It's also also.

2283
01:43:08,200 --> 01:43:11,000
Speaker 5: There's the ideal and is where we want to bring people,

2284
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,880
Speaker 5: and there's the reality about where people actually are. And

2285
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 5: there's five, there's ten, and there's eighty five and even

2286
01:43:19,560 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 5: within the five percent, there's five ten In eighty five

2287
01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:28,120
Speaker 5: that said eighty five is always going to be eighty fives.

2288
01:43:28,720 --> 01:43:32,120
Speaker 5: We have to create a culture right that brings the

2289
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,760
Speaker 5: eighty five is over to where we at without them

2290
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,400
Speaker 5: even realizing that happened to us in eighty six, eighty seven,

2291
01:43:37,479 --> 01:43:41,639
Speaker 5: eighty eight with Rock, Kim KRS One, Big Daddy Kane,

2292
01:43:41,840 --> 01:43:46,080
Speaker 5: other artists, they wasn't all positive they had a balance

2293
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:48,599
Speaker 5: where they could reach certain people and then that turned

2294
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 5: into a trend where more people came over the positivity.

2295
01:43:51,880 --> 01:43:56,519
Speaker 5: But there's five, there's ten, and this eighty five. When

2296
01:43:56,560 --> 01:44:00,680
Speaker 5: that trend ended, the five percent remained stead He's doing

2297
01:44:00,760 --> 01:44:03,560
Speaker 5: the work. I personally feel like, not that you're the

2298
01:44:03,680 --> 01:44:06,639
Speaker 5: result of that work, but you're a growth. You're another

2299
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 5: progression of that growth. I want you to realize, though,

2300
01:44:11,120 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 5: there's always going to be really five ten and eighty five,

2301
01:44:16,680 --> 01:44:21,400
Speaker 5: even when everybody's doing it, there's really only five ten

2302
01:44:22,040 --> 01:44:22,639
Speaker 5: eighty five.

2303
01:44:23,040 --> 01:44:27,800
Speaker 4: Man, that sounds I feel like them numbers is like

2304
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,400
Speaker 4: mad it up, though, yere because at the end of

2305
01:44:30,439 --> 01:44:34,519
Speaker 4: the day, I serve a guard that's like, look, if

2306
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:37,240
Speaker 4: they got a hundred sheep, you heard me, and if

2307
01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 4: ninety nine of them is going in the right direction

2308
01:44:39,479 --> 01:44:43,400
Speaker 4: but one is veering off, the god I serve is like, I'm.

2309
01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 2: Gonna do everything in my power to go get that one,

2310
01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:48,280
Speaker 2: even though the other ninety nine is good.

2311
01:44:48,920 --> 01:44:51,320
Speaker 4: So that five ten eighty five, that's cool, match, but

2312
01:44:51,360 --> 01:44:52,400
Speaker 4: there's some different arithmetic.

2313
01:44:52,479 --> 01:44:52,800
Speaker 2: You heard me.

2314
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,439
Speaker 4: So then it's like, wait, now we got to use

2315
01:44:55,520 --> 01:44:57,760
Speaker 4: our power and energy to go get that one. And

2316
01:44:57,880 --> 01:45:00,720
Speaker 4: that one matters so much so it makes it to

2317
01:45:00,800 --> 01:45:03,880
Speaker 4: where I can't be satisfied if I know that the

2318
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,760
Speaker 4: devil is still getting the glory from an art farm

2319
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:10,360
Speaker 4: that God could ultimately be using to save our community.

2320
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:12,200
Speaker 4: And that was they repleaved right now.

2321
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:16,120
Speaker 1: Unfortunately, listen to a scripture I believe I've got where

2322
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:19,880
Speaker 1: it is, or whether there's the Bible or the Koran.

2323
01:45:19,960 --> 01:45:24,000
Speaker 1: I forget where they actually looked down on music, because uh,

2324
01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 1: it was.

2325
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:28,439
Speaker 4: It was that the minister of music ain't heaven.

2326
01:45:28,960 --> 01:45:30,960
Speaker 2: The devil was the minister of music.

2327
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:37,559
Speaker 1: Literally, and you make music right right, and.

2328
01:45:37,600 --> 01:45:38,760
Speaker 4: So he knew the power of it.

2329
01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:39,800
Speaker 2: He knew the power of it.

2330
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 4: So the thing is, if the devil knew the power

2331
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:43,960
Speaker 4: of music, who the hell for we to.

2332
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:45,759
Speaker 1: Sit act like it's just entertainment.

2333
01:45:46,680 --> 01:45:50,520
Speaker 4: It sounds crazy when the culture telling me it's just entertainment.

2334
01:45:50,800 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 4: It's life and death in the power of the Toms.

2335
01:45:53,560 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 4: That's Proverbs eighteen and twenty one. So my thing is, like,

2336
01:45:57,000 --> 01:46:03,160
Speaker 4: we're programming ourselves absolutely literally make murder music sound cool

2337
01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:06,679
Speaker 4: and normal. We're programming ourselves to make being a drug

2338
01:46:06,760 --> 01:46:09,080
Speaker 4: addict or drug dealer sound admirable.

2339
01:46:09,439 --> 01:46:10,800
Speaker 2: But it's not just us.

2340
01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: Man. Like, when you look and you go to the

2341
01:46:13,080 --> 01:46:15,519
Speaker 1: movie dealers. There's all rated movies everywhere.

2342
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 2: I got a rebuttal, there's all rated movies.

2343
01:46:18,439 --> 01:46:21,840
Speaker 4: Okay, but when the last time you seen actors getting murdered.

2344
01:46:21,560 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 2: In real that's kind of roky.

2345
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:26,479
Speaker 1: That's the cultural norm of keeping it real. We gotta

2346
01:46:26,600 --> 01:46:29,200
Speaker 1: be the thing that we project in hip hop because

2347
01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:31,280
Speaker 1: keep it real is one of our main phrases.

2348
01:46:31,840 --> 01:46:34,519
Speaker 4: Absolutely, and guess what, he's only who he is because

2349
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:36,000
Speaker 4: people felt like, oh, n o oh.

2350
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:39,920
Speaker 2: He's authentic. He really d one all these.

2351
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:42,080
Speaker 4: Years later, fifteen hours deep in the game.

2352
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:44,960
Speaker 2: That man ain't never fold and that's why we respect him.

2353
01:46:45,560 --> 01:46:48,240
Speaker 4: You. It's like, yo, you show me videos of you

2354
01:46:48,360 --> 01:46:51,240
Speaker 4: and KRS one from back then and you're the same

2355
01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:53,680
Speaker 4: dude now. So we respect authenticity and hip hop.

2356
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:55,280
Speaker 2: We can't compare it to movies.

2357
01:46:55,439 --> 01:46:56,680
Speaker 4: Well we know, no, No.

2358
01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:03,120
Speaker 5: My favorite analogy is the Shrek movie. I love Shrek

2359
01:47:03,400 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 5: and Eddie Murphy does a phenomenal job as Shrek. Is hilarious.

2360
01:47:06,600 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 5: Watch the whole series. I love Shrek. It's not the

2361
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:13,280
Speaker 5: Godfather though, like the Godfather in terms of the themes,

2362
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:17,080
Speaker 5: the concepts, what's being told, the actual history that's in

2363
01:47:17,200 --> 01:47:18,120
Speaker 5: the movie Godfather.

2364
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:19,640
Speaker 1: When you watch The Godfather.

2365
01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,400
Speaker 5: It'll help you understand a lot of things that's going

2366
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:25,560
Speaker 5: on right now in the political world. Actually, the Godfathers

2367
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:28,360
Speaker 5: just want to part one and part two not glorifying

2368
01:47:28,439 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 5: against Chrisms talking about the story, the acting and directing,

2369
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:32,720
Speaker 5: the cinema of it.

2370
01:47:33,200 --> 01:47:35,800
Speaker 1: Shrek doesn't compare and we got to do that. Father

2371
01:47:35,880 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: Part three, he became, he became a priest, he became

2372
01:47:38,360 --> 01:47:42,000
Speaker 1: a here, he became part of the church. So that's

2373
01:47:42,040 --> 01:47:42,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like.

2374
01:47:47,439 --> 01:47:50,800
Speaker 5: That was just it just the how we look at

2375
01:47:51,560 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 5: you know, this publican of me, and then there's other things, right,

2376
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:57,960
Speaker 5: this came this other thing.

2377
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 4: He Can we be Can we be honest? Because I'm

2378
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:06,720
Speaker 4: gonna maximize this time here, bro. Can we just keep

2379
01:48:06,760 --> 01:48:08,960
Speaker 4: it real about the fact that some people just.

2380
01:48:09,040 --> 01:48:10,559
Speaker 2: Don't want to see the world change?

2381
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:11,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

2382
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 2: Can we admit to that some people just don't want

2383
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:15,760
Speaker 2: to see things change, absolutely.

2384
01:48:15,320 --> 01:48:17,880
Speaker 4: Because they figured out a way to make money off

2385
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:20,400
Speaker 4: of the way things are currently right, So that's an

2386
01:48:20,439 --> 01:48:25,160
Speaker 4: individualistic mindset as opposed to a collective mindset. Absolutely, Sometimes

2387
01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:29,000
Speaker 4: what's best for the community ain't best for you individually. Absolutely,

2388
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:31,360
Speaker 4: And if you really mature, then you would be like dang,

2389
01:48:31,680 --> 01:48:34,320
Speaker 4: I could sacrifice what I might want in the short

2390
01:48:34,439 --> 01:48:36,400
Speaker 4: term for what's better for all of us in the

2391
01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:36,920
Speaker 4: long term.

2392
01:48:37,080 --> 01:48:38,000
Speaker 2: That's how it brought up.

2393
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:42,200
Speaker 1: But you don't think it's a world for both, like

2394
01:48:42,280 --> 01:48:44,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Like think about it as

2395
01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:49,120
Speaker 1: this right, there's a lot of people music that I

2396
01:48:49,280 --> 01:48:54,559
Speaker 1: was listening to, uh that Glori drugs that they don't

2397
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,720
Speaker 1: even do that shit in real life, most of them

2398
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 1: don't like doesn't that make it worse? Though, I'll ask

2399
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:03,920
Speaker 1: you this is because you know it's you know it's

2400
01:49:03,960 --> 01:49:06,640
Speaker 1: wrong for you and yours And watch this doll that

2401
01:49:06,760 --> 01:49:07,400
Speaker 1: you push it on.

2402
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:10,040
Speaker 4: And you know, any music industry.

2403
01:49:09,720 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 5: The target martist target market is thirteen year olds.

2404
01:49:14,040 --> 01:49:15,720
Speaker 4: Let me let me tell you about let me tell

2405
01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:19,200
Speaker 4: you about the audacity of a phony. Okay, the audacity

2406
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:21,800
Speaker 4: of a phony is that when you simply call them

2407
01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:24,479
Speaker 4: out on. Hey, brother, I was listening to your music,

2408
01:49:24,560 --> 01:49:27,760
Speaker 4: and you murdered eighty people on this song according to

2409
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:28,120
Speaker 4: this song.

2410
01:49:28,160 --> 01:49:30,400
Speaker 2: But in real life you ain't never killed nothing.

2411
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:31,120
Speaker 1: But isn't that art?

2412
01:49:31,400 --> 01:49:32,120
Speaker 2: They'll get mad at you.

2413
01:49:32,240 --> 01:49:32,760
Speaker 1: Isn't it art?

2414
01:49:33,120 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 2: Isn't it? And put an F on the front of

2415
01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:35,799
Speaker 2: your album to say.

2416
01:49:37,520 --> 01:49:39,880
Speaker 1: I need rappers if it's just art and if they're like, bro,

2417
01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:42,360
Speaker 1: all this is cap put an F on the front

2418
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:42,840
Speaker 1: of your album.

2419
01:49:42,840 --> 01:49:44,840
Speaker 2: Ain't that with parental run?

2420
01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:48,479
Speaker 1: Right? And you're trying to have it.

2421
01:49:48,520 --> 01:49:53,439
Speaker 5: Both ways too, because one you're keeping it real, you

2422
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:54,679
Speaker 5: really about this life.

2423
01:49:54,760 --> 01:49:56,519
Speaker 1: But the next second, but the next second, oh no,

2424
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 1: it's just entertainment.

2425
01:49:57,880 --> 01:49:59,280
Speaker 4: Exactly which one is it?

2426
01:49:59,439 --> 01:49:59,839
Speaker 2: Exactly?

2427
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 4: Hey, judge, judge, I know I'm in caught right now.

2428
01:50:04,479 --> 01:50:05,559
Speaker 1: That was just entertainment.

2429
01:50:05,600 --> 01:50:06,800
Speaker 2: That wasn't nothing.

2430
01:50:07,160 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 4: Man, Listen, brother, A victim mentality will prevent you from

2431
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:12,439
Speaker 4: ever becoming a victor.

2432
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,080
Speaker 2: If you want to be a victim your whole life.

2433
01:50:15,160 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 4: You can never be a victor because the victim mentality

2434
01:50:18,160 --> 01:50:19,519
Speaker 4: is comfortable because it's.

2435
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:23,280
Speaker 2: Like, dang, I got an excuse to never grow Literally, man.

2436
01:50:23,200 --> 01:50:25,280
Speaker 4: I grew up without a daddy. Man, I grew up

2437
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:27,840
Speaker 4: in the hood. Man, they hate black people, that white

2438
01:50:27,880 --> 01:50:30,680
Speaker 4: man always trying to hold us down. That mentality, when

2439
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,200
Speaker 4: we just keep saying it over and over, it makes

2440
01:50:33,240 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 4: it to where we can never overcome it. But if

2441
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:38,400
Speaker 4: you're gonna speak about your tough circumstances that you grew

2442
01:50:38,479 --> 01:50:40,600
Speaker 4: up in, how about you start speaking about how you

2443
01:50:40,720 --> 01:50:43,560
Speaker 4: plan to overcome them. That's what we don't get to.

2444
01:50:43,880 --> 01:50:46,280
Speaker 4: We have glorified the hood so much in hip hop

2445
01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:48,880
Speaker 4: for the way it is that we don't talk about

2446
01:50:49,000 --> 01:50:50,719
Speaker 4: what we want the hood to evolve into.

2447
01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:52,799
Speaker 2: I don't think it's the hood. I think it's the lifestyle.

2448
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:54,880
Speaker 1: That's like he was saying, like a lot of us,

2449
01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:59,160
Speaker 1: like you said, you said actors, you said, these are actors.

2450
01:50:59,439 --> 01:51:01,840
Speaker 1: A lot of people didn't know when Scarface came out

2451
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:04,360
Speaker 1: that that was acting. A lot of people didn't know

2452
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 1: that Loppacino was. It wasn't what got used back that

2453
01:51:07,560 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 1: Appacino wasn't well known at that time. People who thought

2454
01:51:10,160 --> 01:51:12,120
Speaker 1: that was the first time you saw him. I'm telling

2455
01:51:12,160 --> 01:51:14,880
Speaker 1: you from the hood. I'm telling you people didn't didn't

2456
01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:17,559
Speaker 1: know New Jack City was fake. They didn't. They didn't

2457
01:51:17,600 --> 01:51:20,040
Speaker 1: realize it like they didn't they went there. And so

2458
01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,439
Speaker 1: it's not just hip hop. Like i'm telling you to

2459
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,679
Speaker 1: this day, if Scarface come on television, people are gonna

2460
01:51:25,680 --> 01:51:27,599
Speaker 1: watch that ship and it's still people that's gonna look

2461
01:51:27,640 --> 01:51:29,799
Speaker 1: at that and say, you know what, that's my childhood.

2462
01:51:30,000 --> 01:51:31,880
Speaker 1: And even though you look at it now, you're like,

2463
01:51:31,960 --> 01:51:34,519
Speaker 1: wait a minute, this motherfucker snipp and cocaine the whole time.

2464
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,720
Speaker 1: Literally was killing people the hotel.

2465
01:51:38,000 --> 01:51:38,719
Speaker 2: Dude's girls.

2466
01:51:39,160 --> 01:51:44,320
Speaker 1: Uh, not only saying dudes girls, shooting his own man

2467
01:51:44,920 --> 01:51:47,439
Speaker 1: or even trying to marry his because he tried to

2468
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 1: marry his sisters. He ain't trying to smash. He tried

2469
01:51:50,920 --> 01:51:54,080
Speaker 1: to marry. And you realize that we raised this guy.

2470
01:51:54,400 --> 01:51:56,840
Speaker 1: There even a rapper on scarface. You don't even think

2471
01:51:56,840 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 1: he got that bum sir, You know what I mean.

2472
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:02,040
Speaker 1: It's even people who have scars on their face who

2473
01:52:02,960 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 1: they face and all this crazy shit. This is all

2474
01:52:05,640 --> 01:52:07,720
Speaker 1: from that movie. And I'm trying to tell you are

2475
01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:11,000
Speaker 1: people couldn't differentiate that this was acting.

2476
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:13,000
Speaker 4: We didn't. We got fucked up.

2477
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 1: When we've seen Appacino on Collego's way was like, wait

2478
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:16,639
Speaker 1: a minute, that's a cute to be the same guy,

2479
01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:19,920
Speaker 1: because like that's how hell he acted. Like, So, what

2480
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to tell you is some of these artists

2481
01:52:23,120 --> 01:52:24,719
Speaker 1: we are that they are in the movie.

2482
01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:25,880
Speaker 2: They are in a movie that.

2483
01:52:25,960 --> 01:52:29,320
Speaker 1: They you know, there's there's there's images that they come

2484
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 1: in with and then this images that the record label

2485
01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:32,439
Speaker 1: portrayed them.

2486
01:52:32,760 --> 01:52:36,280
Speaker 4: And I'm gonna be honest with you. Sometimes they become

2487
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:36,840
Speaker 4: that actor.

2488
01:52:37,120 --> 01:52:41,400
Speaker 1: Sometimes they do what it's called method acting, method acting

2489
01:52:41,479 --> 01:52:44,200
Speaker 1: where they've got they're so numb to who they're playing

2490
01:52:44,840 --> 01:52:45,800
Speaker 1: they forget.

2491
01:52:45,560 --> 01:52:46,559
Speaker 4: That that's not them.

2492
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:49,200
Speaker 2: A lot of people say they having a Tupac. I

2493
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,560
Speaker 2: believe that. I believe that. I believe that Tupac what.

2494
01:52:52,800 --> 01:52:54,439
Speaker 1: I don't think he was. I don't think he was fake,

2495
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:57,040
Speaker 1: but I believe that he was all of that. He's Gemini.

2496
01:52:57,160 --> 01:53:00,760
Speaker 1: Sometimes geminis can be all that. He he was pro black.

2497
01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:01,680
Speaker 4: I believed him.

2498
01:53:02,439 --> 01:53:03,880
Speaker 2: I believed him when he was pro back.

2499
01:53:03,960 --> 01:53:04,360
Speaker 1: But guess what.

2500
01:53:04,600 --> 01:53:06,040
Speaker 2: I also believed that when he said hit.

2501
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:06,519
Speaker 4: Him up life.

2502
01:53:06,680 --> 01:53:07,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, I also believe.

2503
01:53:07,800 --> 01:53:09,680
Speaker 2: I also believed that when he said, and this is

2504
01:53:09,800 --> 01:53:13,519
Speaker 2: real ship. I also believed him when he said dear mama, definitely.

2505
01:53:13,720 --> 01:53:15,600
Speaker 1: But I also believe that when he said Brenda's got

2506
01:53:15,640 --> 01:53:18,240
Speaker 1: a baby. And I also believed him when he said so. Like,

2507
01:53:19,080 --> 01:53:21,720
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say is like like sometimes you

2508
01:53:21,880 --> 01:53:24,040
Speaker 1: you can be that and you be caught up.

2509
01:53:24,120 --> 01:53:24,439
Speaker 2: Now I'm not.

2510
01:53:24,479 --> 01:53:26,479
Speaker 1: I don't cause I don't want this to come out like, oh,

2511
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 1: Tupac was an actor, Tupac was method acting. But I'm

2512
01:53:30,320 --> 01:53:33,280
Speaker 1: saying that's a possibility in that case because he was

2513
01:53:33,680 --> 01:53:36,679
Speaker 1: he was, he was, he knew too much a black

2514
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:40,840
Speaker 1: pride to ever participate in negativity. But guess what, I

2515
01:53:40,920 --> 01:53:42,760
Speaker 1: can't I can't tell him how he felt when he

2516
01:53:42,800 --> 01:53:44,719
Speaker 1: got hit up that night in the studio. I can't

2517
01:53:44,760 --> 01:53:47,400
Speaker 1: tell him. So that's why you know, every action he

2518
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:50,160
Speaker 1: is gonna deserve a reaction. So I can't tell so

2519
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:52,880
Speaker 1: But but that's a great that's a great example.

2520
01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:55,760
Speaker 2: Like some of us get caught in the character that

2521
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:56,439
Speaker 2: they playing so.

2522
01:53:56,560 --> 01:53:59,719
Speaker 1: Much and they becoming that character like Nah's for instance,

2523
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 1: like when he did Belly those weeks up until like

2524
01:54:04,640 --> 01:54:08,200
Speaker 1: he was him bro like he was, he was sincere

2525
01:54:08,360 --> 01:54:09,840
Speaker 1: like he was like you know, he was. That was

2526
01:54:09,880 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 1: a positive character in the movie. And this is this

2527
01:54:12,439 --> 01:54:14,120
Speaker 1: is a positive way to do. But you know what

2528
01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:17,120
Speaker 1: I mean, Like some of us, imagine nas is smart.

2529
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:20,240
Speaker 1: Now you know, he shook it out, but you know,

2530
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:23,240
Speaker 1: and then he became back who he was. But some

2531
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:26,160
Speaker 1: of us, some of us do get caught in and

2532
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:28,320
Speaker 1: it's not I can't tell you it's right or wrong,

2533
01:54:28,360 --> 01:54:30,800
Speaker 1: but I can say I could see where you fell,

2534
01:54:30,920 --> 01:54:34,160
Speaker 1: because I could see where a person says, man, I'm

2535
01:54:34,160 --> 01:54:36,360
Speaker 1: gonna go I'm gonna go to the Strip Club and

2536
01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:41,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna perform my record and then uh, you know,

2537
01:54:41,640 --> 01:54:44,360
Speaker 1: they feel like king. Like It's like I say this

2538
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:46,400
Speaker 1: a lot. Man, it's hard to be the man on

2539
01:54:46,480 --> 01:54:48,480
Speaker 1: Monday and not be the man on Wednesday. You know

2540
01:54:48,520 --> 01:54:51,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like, it's really hard. It's really hard,

2541
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:54,200
Speaker 1: and it's hard to transition from who you were on Monday,

2542
01:54:54,600 --> 01:54:56,840
Speaker 1: even though you're both Like That's why I embrace you.

2543
01:54:57,120 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 1: So I embraced this coach is because I know I'm

2544
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:03,560
Speaker 1: that positive guy. I know I might not I might

2545
01:55:03,640 --> 01:55:05,680
Speaker 1: not portray it her because guess what, I don't know

2546
01:55:05,720 --> 01:55:09,080
Speaker 1: how to portray it. Like Angie Martinez interviewed me and

2547
01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:10,800
Speaker 1: she was like, Yo, you've been with your girl for

2548
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:12,880
Speaker 1: a long time, Like why don't you never promote that?

2549
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:14,320
Speaker 1: Go look at the interview.

2550
01:55:14,320 --> 01:55:15,600
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to get views.

2551
01:55:15,920 --> 01:55:17,960
Speaker 1: But I literally looked at her and said, I don't

2552
01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:21,240
Speaker 1: know how, Like I just kind of don't know how

2553
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,240
Speaker 1: to be Like, Yo, I'm a lawyer, man, I come

2554
01:55:23,280 --> 01:55:24,440
Speaker 1: home with my wife every night.

2555
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 2: I just I don't know how which crowd am I

2556
01:55:26,920 --> 01:55:27,280
Speaker 2: talking to?

2557
01:55:27,560 --> 01:55:28,840
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It's not It's not that

2558
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:31,120
Speaker 1: I'm stupid, It's just that I don't know how. But

2559
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 1: back to the point, like, yeah, some of us was

2560
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,560
Speaker 1: watching scar Face and we didn't know we was watching

2561
01:55:37,600 --> 01:55:39,600
Speaker 1: a movie. Some of some of these artists, you gotta

2562
01:55:39,600 --> 01:55:41,800
Speaker 1: give them a visionfit of the doubt. They're playing a

2563
01:55:41,920 --> 01:55:43,480
Speaker 1: role and they don't know they playing a role. They

2564
01:55:43,640 --> 01:55:45,680
Speaker 1: just so caught up in it that that method active

2565
01:55:45,800 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 1: out knowing it.

2566
01:55:47,120 --> 01:55:50,520
Speaker 4: Hey, bro, some some rappers the only thing they've ever

2567
01:55:50,600 --> 01:55:55,000
Speaker 4: been celebrated for is making a good song their whole life.

2568
01:55:55,080 --> 01:55:57,000
Speaker 4: The only thing people ever applauded them for it that

2569
01:55:57,080 --> 01:55:59,240
Speaker 4: made them feel good on the inside was the music

2570
01:55:59,320 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 4: they made. So now they become a prisoner to their

2571
01:56:01,800 --> 01:56:04,280
Speaker 4: persona and they're like, dang, whatever type of song they

2572
01:56:04,360 --> 01:56:07,280
Speaker 4: celebrated me for, I feel pressure to have to try

2573
01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:11,080
Speaker 4: to reincardinate that and try to do another version of

2574
01:56:11,120 --> 01:56:13,560
Speaker 4: that so I can continue to get celebrated. We all

2575
01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:16,480
Speaker 4: want to be celebrated. We all want attention. I wouldn't

2576
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:17,960
Speaker 4: be in front of this microphone if I didn't want to.

2577
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:19,800
Speaker 1: I was about giving people they flyers. Hold on, if

2578
01:56:19,840 --> 01:56:21,160
Speaker 1: you remember what you said, we want to give you

2579
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:27,360
Speaker 1: a fly. Remember the studios is.

2580
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:40,560
Speaker 2: Better than the grammy. Yeah, finish what you saying?

2581
01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:45,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I'm telling you man, like I'm sorry to

2582
01:56:45,040 --> 01:56:48,000
Speaker 1: be innyway, but what I'm saying is like, it's not

2583
01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 1: it's it's a lot harder. Like I I was watching

2584
01:56:53,480 --> 01:56:57,160
Speaker 1: an argument the other day if someone said to someone, man,

2585
01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:00,560
Speaker 1: it's a lot harder for you to critique for you

2586
01:57:00,720 --> 01:57:03,760
Speaker 1: being you and not know what my life is like.

2587
01:57:04,680 --> 01:57:07,280
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, there is truth strangers arguing, Okay,

2588
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: I was hustling. I was like, oh that because sometimes

2589
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:14,600
Speaker 1: you don't know what a person's life is. That's why

2590
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:16,600
Speaker 1: when I said to you, you know, sometimes you might

2591
01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 1: have to talk to a person you know what I mean.

2592
01:57:18,400 --> 01:57:21,760
Speaker 1: And I'm just letting you know, like some artists and

2593
01:57:21,800 --> 01:57:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm talking about it, I got bad. But from when

2594
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:28,960
Speaker 1: I was coming up, like I'm sure, I'm sure it

2595
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:31,440
Speaker 1: would be hard to tell boot can clip. Hey man,

2596
01:57:31,760 --> 01:57:33,720
Speaker 1: you know, I know you guys are conscious. I know

2597
01:57:33,800 --> 01:57:35,880
Speaker 1: you got but we need we need a positive record

2598
01:57:35,880 --> 01:57:38,200
Speaker 1: out of your guys. And then did not work and

2599
01:57:38,280 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 1: then you to expect them to for them to keep

2600
01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:42,320
Speaker 1: it going. It's like you got to have that balance

2601
01:57:42,360 --> 01:57:44,040
Speaker 1: of life, like when you said, no, balance of life.

2602
01:57:44,120 --> 01:57:47,320
Speaker 1: I respect that because yes, we've been dealing with negativity

2603
01:57:47,640 --> 01:57:51,520
Speaker 1: way too long, correct, way too long, and we need more.

2604
01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:53,280
Speaker 2: But it's going to take a time.

2605
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:58,000
Speaker 1: And but not to say to day naive, do know

2606
01:57:58,760 --> 01:58:00,520
Speaker 1: that some of them are playing in a movie that

2607
01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:02,680
Speaker 1: they don't know they playing it? Damn Yeah, some of

2608
01:58:02,720 --> 01:58:06,000
Speaker 1: them are, so that means they're being used. Yes, one man,

2609
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:08,480
Speaker 1: when I look at the wayans, but you know, like

2610
01:58:08,640 --> 01:58:10,760
Speaker 1: like you said something, you said, rappers are only praised

2611
01:58:11,120 --> 01:58:12,960
Speaker 1: for being like you know, who's one of the most

2612
01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:16,120
Speaker 1: positive people that I know and that never gets raised

2613
01:58:16,200 --> 01:58:19,920
Speaker 1: for it. Kodak Black. Kodak Black and pays people rents.

2614
01:58:20,200 --> 01:58:20,480
Speaker 4: He just.

2615
01:58:23,200 --> 01:58:27,080
Speaker 1: He does certains and we only we only focus on

2616
01:58:27,200 --> 01:58:30,520
Speaker 1: him when he's on the floor eating some food. So

2617
01:58:30,640 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 1: the thing about that is when he's on the floor

2618
01:58:33,960 --> 01:58:38,520
Speaker 1: eating fool. Guess what that works for his algorithms too. Yes,

2619
01:58:38,720 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 1: it's hard to tell him, don't you tell us to

2620
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:43,560
Speaker 1: tell him? Yo, yo, we gotta start protecting you. You

2621
01:58:43,640 --> 01:58:46,320
Speaker 1: can't be going outside of doing this. And he's like, man,

2622
01:58:46,360 --> 01:58:49,160
Speaker 1: I just got two million fucking views and this there's

2623
01:58:49,280 --> 01:58:52,000
Speaker 1: thirteen shows and this man is twenty five years old.

2624
01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:53,839
Speaker 1: That twenty five year old is hard.

2625
01:58:53,720 --> 01:58:54,120
Speaker 2: To talk to.

2626
01:58:54,520 --> 01:58:56,200
Speaker 4: So in my college course, I teach you about the

2627
01:58:56,280 --> 01:58:59,040
Speaker 4: three parts of the industry, three teams. I know this,

2628
01:58:59,320 --> 01:58:59,960
Speaker 4: So you got cree.

2629
01:59:00,480 --> 01:59:01,680
Speaker 1: We're talking a lot about artists.

2630
01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 4: That's creators.

2631
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:04,760
Speaker 2: We ain't talking about the CEOs, right, the CEOs.

2632
01:59:04,840 --> 01:59:07,560
Speaker 4: That's commissioners, right, that's the other C. But the third

2633
01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:11,200
Speaker 4: C is the most powerful creators, commissioners. And who's the

2634
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:16,800
Speaker 4: third sea consumers, consu consumers, the fans, right, that is

2635
01:59:16,880 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 4: who actually has the most powerful Because when we are

2636
01:59:19,920 --> 01:59:22,280
Speaker 4: an artist and were looking online to see, well what

2637
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:24,520
Speaker 4: am I getting attention for? Am I getting attention for

2638
01:59:24,680 --> 01:59:27,680
Speaker 4: showing the most negative side of who I am? Or

2639
01:59:27,720 --> 01:59:29,960
Speaker 4: am I getting attention for showing the most positive side

2640
01:59:29,960 --> 01:59:33,120
Speaker 4: of who I am? The fans need to have accountability

2641
01:59:33,160 --> 01:59:35,960
Speaker 4: as well, yes, because if you applaud people for showing

2642
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:39,080
Speaker 4: the most evil, sinful side of them, then you're gonna

2643
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:42,240
Speaker 4: applaud them right into the jail cell, right into you. Right.

2644
01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 1: But yess also that's also this. Let me tell you something.

2645
01:59:45,080 --> 01:59:48,160
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. The other day someone sent

2646
01:59:48,240 --> 01:59:52,080
Speaker 1: me someone fighting. Okay, I clicked the link.

2647
01:59:52,920 --> 01:59:56,840
Speaker 4: I hated it, but I had already clicked the link,

2648
01:59:56,920 --> 01:59:58,720
Speaker 4: so more fights, can you know what you know?

2649
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:03,280
Speaker 1: Small fights came on. I was literally having like I

2650
02:00:03,440 --> 02:00:05,640
Speaker 1: literally had to take a shower. I felt dirty. I'm like,

2651
02:00:05,720 --> 02:00:06,680
Speaker 1: why am I watching it?

2652
02:00:07,200 --> 02:00:07,520
Speaker 4: Why am I?

2653
02:00:07,680 --> 02:00:10,400
Speaker 1: But then it like certain things is like I don't

2654
02:00:10,440 --> 02:00:14,000
Speaker 1: get it twisted. I didn't just just strolled through. I

2655
02:00:14,120 --> 02:00:17,000
Speaker 1: watched it for fifteen seconds like damn old no, damn

2656
02:00:17,200 --> 02:00:20,760
Speaker 1: like and then I realized, I'm calling an algorithm that happens. Like,

2657
02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:23,080
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's harder, Like it's harder for

2658
02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:25,800
Speaker 1: a person to go dry turkey. It's harder for a

2659
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:26,839
Speaker 1: person to say, man.

2660
02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:27,400
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

2661
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:29,080
Speaker 1: But in due time.

2662
02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:31,080
Speaker 2: That's why I feel like, you got to you gotta

2663
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:31,480
Speaker 2: work with it.

2664
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:33,160
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. I'm in this thing for

2665
02:00:33,240 --> 02:00:35,560
Speaker 4: the long haul. I'm in this for the long haul.

2666
02:00:35,680 --> 02:00:38,280
Speaker 4: This ain't no quick method to try to go viral

2667
02:00:38,600 --> 02:00:40,760
Speaker 4: and then feel like, Okay, I did what I needed

2668
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:41,560
Speaker 4: to do, Now I'm gone.

2669
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:43,200
Speaker 1: I've been watching since twenty ten.

2670
02:00:43,440 --> 02:00:46,520
Speaker 4: Thank you, brother. My whole adult life has been dedicated

2671
02:00:46,600 --> 02:00:49,200
Speaker 4: to doing God's work and making this world better by

2672
02:00:49,280 --> 02:00:51,680
Speaker 4: using my gifts. I spent two years in the classroom

2673
02:00:51,720 --> 02:00:52,800
Speaker 4: as a middle school teacher.

2674
02:00:53,040 --> 02:00:55,000
Speaker 2: I thought I could be most useful there.

2675
02:00:55,280 --> 02:00:58,080
Speaker 4: When I saw that my students were memorizing their favorite

2676
02:00:58,160 --> 02:01:01,880
Speaker 4: rap lyrics to Little bosie lel Wayne Kevin Gates before

2677
02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:04,320
Speaker 4: they commemorized the math that I was trying to teach them.

2678
02:01:04,560 --> 02:01:06,560
Speaker 4: I said, maybe if I'm a rapper, I could have

2679
02:01:06,720 --> 02:01:09,360
Speaker 4: the heart of a teacher, but the platform of a rapper,

2680
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 4: and that platform would allow me to reach more people.

2681
02:01:12,080 --> 02:01:14,760
Speaker 4: Right So, now in the rap game, people think I'm

2682
02:01:14,800 --> 02:01:17,520
Speaker 4: some new dude that just came out two years ago, Burda,

2683
02:01:17,560 --> 02:01:19,320
Speaker 4: I've been doing this since twenty ten.

2684
02:01:19,560 --> 02:01:21,120
Speaker 2: I'm on my fifteenth album.

2685
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:24,360
Speaker 4: Bro. I'm a fellow at Harvard University, a professor at

2686
02:01:24,440 --> 02:01:26,120
Speaker 4: Tufts University of Hip Hop.

2687
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:26,840
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

2688
02:01:27,440 --> 02:01:31,360
Speaker 4: United States Hip Hop Cultural Ambassador went to Zimbabwe in Africa,

2689
02:01:31,720 --> 02:01:34,240
Speaker 4: teaching the African hip hop artists look what we do

2690
02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:35,840
Speaker 4: over here and how to improve what.

2691
02:01:35,880 --> 02:01:36,480
Speaker 2: They got going on.

2692
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:36,920
Speaker 1: Bro.

2693
02:01:37,760 --> 02:01:40,920
Speaker 4: My life is dedicated to serving God, and God said,

2694
02:01:41,160 --> 02:01:43,000
Speaker 4: I don't want you to be Noriega. I don't want

2695
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:45,760
Speaker 4: you to be Hakem. I want you to be d One.

2696
02:01:46,160 --> 02:01:48,440
Speaker 4: So do you, but do you in a way that

2697
02:01:48,520 --> 02:01:51,600
Speaker 4: glorifies me, and I figured that formula out as easy

2698
02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 4: as one plus one equals tooth. So that's all I've

2699
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:57,160
Speaker 4: been doing, Bro. And now in the game, this is

2700
02:01:57,240 --> 02:01:57,960
Speaker 4: the tough part. Bro.

2701
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:00,720
Speaker 2: Our people who.

2702
02:02:02,360 --> 02:02:07,760
Speaker 4: Let me see, there's people, there's people who are praying

2703
02:02:09,000 --> 02:02:13,280
Speaker 4: that I don't succeed because the most successful that I become,

2704
02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:16,800
Speaker 4: the more of a threat it is to their pockets

2705
02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:18,120
Speaker 4: and to their power.

2706
02:02:18,720 --> 02:02:18,880
Speaker 7: Right.

2707
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:22,400
Speaker 4: So I'm at war on a daily basis. Right, even

2708
02:02:22,440 --> 02:02:24,720
Speaker 4: though I'm at war with people, I don't look at

2709
02:02:24,760 --> 02:02:27,880
Speaker 4: the people as my enemy because Ephesians six and twelve

2710
02:02:27,960 --> 02:02:30,920
Speaker 4: says we don't even wrestle against flesh and blood. We

2711
02:02:31,040 --> 02:02:34,680
Speaker 4: wrestle against evil spirits and principalities and.

2712
02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:36,160
Speaker 2: Darkness of the underworld.

2713
02:02:36,200 --> 02:02:36,600
Speaker 3: You heard me.

2714
02:02:36,880 --> 02:02:38,400
Speaker 4: So with that being said, I can look at a

2715
02:02:38,520 --> 02:02:40,560
Speaker 4: man that's cursing me out, I could look at him

2716
02:02:40,560 --> 02:02:42,080
Speaker 4: man that's dissing me. I can look at a man

2717
02:02:42,120 --> 02:02:44,320
Speaker 4: that's threatening to kill me, and I can still be

2718
02:02:44,400 --> 02:02:47,120
Speaker 4: that I love you, brother, I love you because I

2719
02:02:47,200 --> 02:02:48,960
Speaker 4: know that that's not the best version of you speaking

2720
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:51,800
Speaker 4: right now. That's that evil speaking through you. And unfortunately

2721
02:02:51,880 --> 02:02:54,960
Speaker 4: I see this every day from our people. So we

2722
02:02:55,000 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 4: can talk about the enemies that hate us in the

2723
02:02:58,160 --> 02:03:00,160
Speaker 4: White House and don't vote for this.

2724
02:03:00,200 --> 02:03:01,440
Speaker 2: Person, don't vote for that person.

2725
02:03:01,760 --> 02:03:04,640
Speaker 4: But bro on a daily basis, we are looking around

2726
02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:07,320
Speaker 4: and were acting like it's all love, but the truth

2727
02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:10,240
Speaker 4: is the biggest threat is the enemy that's working through

2728
02:03:10,280 --> 02:03:12,520
Speaker 4: each one of our peers and we see close to us.

2729
02:03:13,240 --> 02:03:15,040
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm like, No, I can't just be

2730
02:03:15,080 --> 02:03:17,320
Speaker 2: a rapper. And God was like, no, you're a soldier.

2731
02:03:17,400 --> 02:03:19,600
Speaker 4: You heard me. So being a soldier, I mean you

2732
02:03:19,720 --> 02:03:21,880
Speaker 4: got to wrap at an extremely high level, but you

2733
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 4: also got to be able to relate to people and

2734
02:03:24,520 --> 02:03:27,240
Speaker 4: communicate in a way that challenges them but in a

2735
02:03:27,280 --> 02:03:29,960
Speaker 4: way that also loves them. And man, that's why I

2736
02:03:30,080 --> 02:03:32,400
Speaker 4: be thankful to people like nor Re turn me up

2737
02:03:32,560 --> 02:03:33,440
Speaker 4: when I first met him.

2738
02:03:33,480 --> 02:03:34,840
Speaker 1: Great man, I wasn't expecting this.

2739
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:37,240
Speaker 2: Listen, this is a public service announcement.

2740
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:42,040
Speaker 4: You got flowers, but they needed to put some little

2741
02:03:42,120 --> 02:03:44,120
Speaker 4: kid at home need to know Mama showed this to

2742
02:03:44,240 --> 02:03:45,040
Speaker 4: your kid at home.

2743
02:03:45,160 --> 02:03:46,080
Speaker 1: Daddy, show this to.

2744
02:03:46,120 --> 02:03:48,400
Speaker 4: Your kid at home. D One made it here to

2745
02:03:48,520 --> 02:03:51,120
Speaker 4: drink Champs and got flowers for being a man of God,

2746
02:03:51,600 --> 02:03:54,400
Speaker 4: for being educated, for being proud to be black, you

2747
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:57,240
Speaker 4: heard mission and for fighting the devil.

2748
02:03:57,640 --> 02:03:59,360
Speaker 2: The devil is the only enemy I got.

2749
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:01,480
Speaker 4: And even if you but threatened my life and hate

2750
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:03,840
Speaker 4: who I am, it's okay. I still love them. You

2751
02:04:03,880 --> 02:04:06,800
Speaker 4: heard me, and that right there is being celebrated on

2752
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:08,480
Speaker 4: one of the biggest platforms in the world.

2753
02:04:08,520 --> 02:04:12,840
Speaker 2: You said that a couple of.

2754
02:04:12,840 --> 02:04:16,160
Speaker 1: Times, and I just wondered to day people have threatened

2755
02:04:16,160 --> 02:04:16,840
Speaker 1: your life before.

2756
02:04:18,520 --> 02:04:22,160
Speaker 4: Bro, it happens more than this ship. I know you.

2757
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:24,280
Speaker 2: You're talking about having a gun to your head.

2758
02:04:24,640 --> 02:04:25,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell you that's you.

2759
02:04:25,920 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 1: That that that that but that has that's not nothing

2760
02:04:28,920 --> 02:04:30,440
Speaker 1: to do with what you being somebody.

2761
02:04:30,720 --> 02:04:33,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, yeah threatening my life when I when I

2762
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:37,880
Speaker 4: made a stance against the Strip Club, Yeah, I was like, wait,

2763
02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:40,280
Speaker 4: y'all trying to have a Magic City night at an

2764
02:04:40,520 --> 02:04:43,160
Speaker 4: NBA game where kids are going to be at that's

2765
02:04:43,200 --> 02:04:43,720
Speaker 4: a problem.

2766
02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:45,240
Speaker 2: And I spoke up about it and I made a

2767
02:04:45,320 --> 02:04:45,880
Speaker 2: song about it.

2768
02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:48,640
Speaker 4: So people in Atlanta start threatening my life or we're

2769
02:04:48,640 --> 02:04:50,800
Speaker 4: gonna kill you with our Draco's and we're finn do

2770
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:52,640
Speaker 4: this to you. We're fin to do that to you, right,

2771
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:56,600
Speaker 4: really threatening my life? Right, I didn't have people constantly

2772
02:04:56,840 --> 02:04:59,040
Speaker 4: try to knock me off my rocker by thinking you

2773
02:04:59,120 --> 02:05:01,880
Speaker 4: could kill me. You can't kill a man of God, bro,

2774
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:04,919
Speaker 4: because this truth that I'm putting out here, this is eternal.

2775
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:07,680
Speaker 2: Y'all trying to go viral on a daily basis.

2776
02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:10,880
Speaker 4: I'm trying to go eternal and going internal means that

2777
02:05:11,200 --> 02:05:14,440
Speaker 4: every day that I'm living, Bro, I'm maximizing my time here.

2778
02:05:14,760 --> 02:05:18,000
Speaker 4: I'm not afraid of death because I know that it's inevitable.

2779
02:05:18,040 --> 02:05:19,560
Speaker 1: One day, everybody got to die.

2780
02:05:19,640 --> 02:05:21,720
Speaker 2: So when some people threaten you with death, like I

2781
02:05:21,800 --> 02:05:22,480
Speaker 2: get threatened, you.

2782
02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:25,160
Speaker 4: Know what I'm saying, People unfortunately want to threaten my life.

2783
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 4: The problem is, Bro, the joke is really on them,

2784
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:30,720
Speaker 4: because it just makes me get bolder as I get older.

2785
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:33,040
Speaker 4: You feel me. I was listening to DMX on the

2786
02:05:33,080 --> 02:05:36,880
Speaker 4: way here, right, and I just think about a brother.

2787
02:05:37,080 --> 02:05:39,640
Speaker 4: The first time I met DMX, it felt like we

2788
02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:40,720
Speaker 4: were kindred spirits.

2789
02:05:41,360 --> 02:05:42,760
Speaker 2: And he swore that we had met before.

2790
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:46,080
Speaker 4: He said, heyo, dog, I know we metog North Carolina.

2791
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:47,480
Speaker 4: I'm like, I've never been.

2792
02:05:50,360 --> 02:05:50,480
Speaker 1: Right.

2793
02:05:51,040 --> 02:05:54,120
Speaker 4: So we're talking and I was like, we never met

2794
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:58,000
Speaker 4: in the physical, I say, but brother spiritually.

2795
02:05:59,240 --> 02:05:59,760
Speaker 1: For spirits.

2796
02:06:00,640 --> 02:06:03,640
Speaker 4: So backstage in New Orleans, right in the Howland Wolf.

2797
02:06:03,800 --> 02:06:06,480
Speaker 4: That's the name of the venue we prayed, and for

2798
02:06:06,640 --> 02:06:08,320
Speaker 4: me to be able to pray with a man who

2799
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:10,880
Speaker 4: I know was a man of God. That man was

2800
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:14,240
Speaker 4: touched by God personally, but I know he openly wrestled

2801
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:18,240
Speaker 4: with demons, right openly did, but his humanity made him

2802
02:06:18,280 --> 02:06:22,360
Speaker 4: more relatable. I truly feel like that moment sparked something

2803
02:06:22,400 --> 02:06:24,960
Speaker 4: in me to where I was like, man, I wasn't

2804
02:06:25,000 --> 02:06:26,920
Speaker 4: even that known at the time, but I was like, man,

2805
02:06:26,960 --> 02:06:28,880
Speaker 4: if I ever get known, I want to be the

2806
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:30,760
Speaker 4: dude that they know they see the God in me,

2807
02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:33,400
Speaker 4: but they also understand that I'm not claiming to be

2808
02:06:33,480 --> 02:06:35,600
Speaker 4: perfect by any means. You feel me so on a

2809
02:06:35,640 --> 02:06:38,840
Speaker 4: daily basis, yeah, Bro, people threatened me, people try to

2810
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:41,680
Speaker 4: make fun of me, people try to discredit me. But

2811
02:06:43,120 --> 02:06:45,200
Speaker 4: what you said, they did the same thing in Jesus.

2812
02:06:46,680 --> 02:06:49,480
Speaker 4: So I continue to walk around with a smile on

2813
02:06:49,560 --> 02:06:52,360
Speaker 4: my face and with joy in my heart because Man,

2814
02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:55,320
Speaker 4: this right here, Norrid just touched on a story. Bro.

2815
02:06:55,480 --> 02:06:58,080
Speaker 1: I was a People don't know my story.

2816
02:06:57,880 --> 02:06:59,320
Speaker 4: And a lot of times I do these interviews and

2817
02:06:59,360 --> 02:07:01,360
Speaker 4: we end up talking about the rap game and stuff.

2818
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:04,440
Speaker 4: When I really open up and tell my story, bro

2819
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:07,280
Speaker 4: like dog. I was a college student. Bro, I was

2820
02:07:07,320 --> 02:07:09,600
Speaker 4: about to graduate. I'm playing basketball.

2821
02:07:09,200 --> 02:07:10,360
Speaker 2: Talking about when you got the gun there.

2822
02:07:10,480 --> 02:07:12,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tell you how crazy when you tell

2823
02:07:12,440 --> 02:07:15,520
Speaker 1: that story is. Obviously I know you survived, But every

2824
02:07:15,560 --> 02:07:18,280
Speaker 1: time I hear you tell that story, I get shocked

2825
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:23,760
Speaker 1: because it seemed like it seemed like the way you

2826
02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:27,600
Speaker 1: tell it sometimes it doesn't seem like you're here. It

2827
02:07:27,680 --> 02:07:30,880
Speaker 1: seems like you're speaking from a whole outside of your body,

2828
02:07:30,920 --> 02:07:33,200
Speaker 1: because the way you describe it is like you were

2829
02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:35,680
Speaker 1: supposed to die. Yeah, like you were supposed to die,

2830
02:07:35,840 --> 02:07:38,080
Speaker 1: like what happened? Like telling people and this was because

2831
02:07:38,320 --> 02:07:43,440
Speaker 1: someone thought you broke into a car. Yeah, okay, God,

2832
02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:44,120
Speaker 1: bless man.

2833
02:07:44,160 --> 02:07:47,880
Speaker 4: I felt. I felt the whole sky get dark. I

2834
02:07:48,040 --> 02:07:52,120
Speaker 4: was playing basketball one on one against my homie as

2835
02:07:52,160 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 4: a college student. All of a sudden, these three dudes

2836
02:07:54,720 --> 02:07:57,680
Speaker 4: walk up to us on a basketball court and they say, hey,

2837
02:07:58,200 --> 02:07:59,920
Speaker 4: y'all know who broke in such and such a call

2838
02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:03,000
Speaker 4: because they had a real popular person in Baton Ruge

2839
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:05,800
Speaker 4: who lived back there, right all they baby mama live

2840
02:08:05,880 --> 02:08:07,680
Speaker 4: back there. So it was like, nah, man, we don't

2841
02:08:07,720 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 4: know who broke in there. We just playing basketball. So

2842
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:12,000
Speaker 4: two of the dudes was like, all right, all good.

2843
02:08:12,120 --> 02:08:14,520
Speaker 4: They went to walk away. One little short dude, dark

2844
02:08:14,560 --> 02:08:16,320
Speaker 4: skinn dude in the middle. He was like, nah, y'all,

2845
02:08:16,360 --> 02:08:18,880
Speaker 4: niggas lying, y'all know who did it? It probably was y'all.

2846
02:08:19,840 --> 02:08:22,640
Speaker 4: So he pulled a gun from his waistband, right, so

2847
02:08:23,720 --> 02:08:26,400
Speaker 4: pull a gun out, and I'm like, all right, I

2848
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:29,800
Speaker 4: got my hand up like this. Once the gun is

2849
02:08:29,880 --> 02:08:34,440
Speaker 4: right here on my temple. The only things I thought was, dang,

2850
02:08:35,400 --> 02:08:37,400
Speaker 4: I'm about to die. Like one of my best friends

2851
02:08:37,520 --> 02:08:39,560
Speaker 4: just got killed in New Orleans. I never thought I

2852
02:08:39,600 --> 02:08:42,120
Speaker 4: would get killed, and that's how my life was gonna end.

2853
02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:46,800
Speaker 4: And number two, I thought, dang, I wasted my life

2854
02:08:46,920 --> 02:08:50,160
Speaker 4: trying to fit in so much that I was Lukewong.

2855
02:08:50,560 --> 02:08:52,720
Speaker 4: I didn't even stand for nothing. I can't even be

2856
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:55,400
Speaker 4: proud of myself. Right now, I'm about to get killed

2857
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 4: and I ain't even stand for nothing that I could

2858
02:08:57,040 --> 02:09:00,160
Speaker 4: be proud of. Goat on and pull the trigger. That's

2859
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:03,360
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking in my head. This white girl was

2860
02:09:03,400 --> 02:09:06,320
Speaker 4: walking to her second floor apartment. She looked down on

2861
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:10,200
Speaker 4: the basketball court and said, oh my god. And they

2862
02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:12,960
Speaker 4: scared everybody. So they all looked up and once they

2863
02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:15,000
Speaker 4: saw her, It's like that's a witness now, so if

2864
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:17,960
Speaker 4: he killed me, somebody saw it. So he got spooked.

2865
02:09:18,000 --> 02:09:20,600
Speaker 4: He put the gun up and they ran off. The

2866
02:09:20,680 --> 02:09:23,120
Speaker 4: part of that story I don't tell is I went

2867
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:25,320
Speaker 4: to a party that night because I was paranoid to

2868
02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:28,120
Speaker 4: stay in that same apartment complex. Went to the party

2869
02:09:28,200 --> 02:09:32,040
Speaker 4: that night, saw the same dudes at the party, the

2870
02:09:32,160 --> 02:09:34,160
Speaker 4: same mode they almost killed me. I saw them at

2871
02:09:34,160 --> 02:09:36,280
Speaker 4: a party that night and we was in the club

2872
02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:38,960
Speaker 4: and they pointing from across the club, tapping each other

2873
02:09:39,160 --> 02:09:40,520
Speaker 4: like man, I go, that dude right there.

2874
02:09:40,880 --> 02:09:42,320
Speaker 2: So then there was a race to get to the

2875
02:09:42,400 --> 02:09:42,840
Speaker 2: front door.

2876
02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:45,480
Speaker 4: I tapped my boy, I said, we gotta go right now,

2877
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:47,640
Speaker 4: we gotta go, and they trying to run through the

2878
02:09:47,680 --> 02:09:48,880
Speaker 4: crowd to get to the back door.

2879
02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:50,560
Speaker 2: We got out before them.

2880
02:09:50,840 --> 02:09:53,520
Speaker 4: We ran, man, I jumped across like ten steps. She

2881
02:09:53,720 --> 02:09:55,320
Speaker 4: heard me to get to the bottom of this ramp

2882
02:09:55,560 --> 02:09:58,560
Speaker 4: and Bawn, we ran, got in his car, peeled out.

2883
02:09:58,840 --> 02:10:00,840
Speaker 4: Feel they try to get you try to get me

2884
02:10:00,880 --> 02:10:03,760
Speaker 4: twice in the same being wow, And the real crazy part.

2885
02:10:06,560 --> 02:10:10,000
Speaker 4: I don't even have peace about saying who whose friends

2886
02:10:10,080 --> 02:10:15,200
Speaker 4: it was? But it's somebody who I know at this point, Yeah, personally,

2887
02:10:15,400 --> 02:10:20,520
Speaker 4: you feel me personally somebody who's huge, somebody that's huge.

2888
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:22,240
Speaker 4: And that's how I know the power that we have

2889
02:10:22,440 --> 02:10:25,520
Speaker 4: as celebrities, because it's somebody who The only reason that

2890
02:10:25,640 --> 02:10:27,560
Speaker 4: dudes was doing that that day is because they wanted

2891
02:10:27,600 --> 02:10:28,960
Speaker 4: to earn a stripe with their friends.

2892
02:10:29,160 --> 02:10:32,600
Speaker 2: He might not necessarily symptom, but that ain't no implication

2893
02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:34,760
Speaker 2: on you. He ain't sentable yet, you ain't centered.

2894
02:10:35,080 --> 02:10:37,720
Speaker 4: Was trying to do something to get Yeah, but no,

2895
02:10:37,720 --> 02:10:40,680
Speaker 4: I mean it's personal friends, you feel me, And that's

2896
02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:44,280
Speaker 4: what made me say, like, man, like bro, the power

2897
02:10:44,360 --> 02:10:47,280
Speaker 4: we have if we are chosen to rise above the

2898
02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:49,520
Speaker 4: crowd and become one of the ones that made it,

2899
02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:52,080
Speaker 4: like oh you made it to a high level, there

2900
02:10:52,200 --> 02:10:54,720
Speaker 4: is so much responsibility that come with that platform and

2901
02:10:54,760 --> 02:10:58,800
Speaker 4: that power. So that's why I take platforms and power seriously.

2902
02:10:59,120 --> 02:11:02,080
Speaker 4: Because I almost got cute over some people trying to

2903
02:11:02,120 --> 02:11:05,400
Speaker 4: earn a strip with somebody that was famous. There was

2904
02:11:05,480 --> 02:11:05,920
Speaker 4: their friend.

2905
02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:08,240
Speaker 1: So after that broke, after that.

2906
02:11:08,360 --> 02:11:10,200
Speaker 4: That feeling of like dang, I'm about to die and

2907
02:11:10,240 --> 02:11:12,360
Speaker 4: I ain't even stand for nothing, like I'd have wasted

2908
02:11:12,440 --> 02:11:15,680
Speaker 4: twenty years of my life. That right there, I got.

2909
02:11:15,640 --> 02:11:17,560
Speaker 1: Turned up after that and you got you know why,

2910
02:11:17,600 --> 02:11:21,880
Speaker 1: you're super lucky to you know, they had to change

2911
02:11:21,920 --> 02:11:24,120
Speaker 1: his laws in New Orleans because I believe people were

2912
02:11:24,160 --> 02:11:25,880
Speaker 1: getting like six years for bodies. Yeah.

2913
02:11:25,880 --> 02:11:28,480
Speaker 4: You wasn't even yeah, yeah, people weren't even worried about it.

2914
02:11:28,560 --> 02:11:30,640
Speaker 1: It was it was almost like misdemeanor. Like I'm not

2915
02:11:30,680 --> 02:11:33,080
Speaker 1: saying it was, but it was almost like the laws

2916
02:11:33,120 --> 02:11:35,600
Speaker 1: in New Orleans. And then I believe it's changed. That's

2917
02:11:35,640 --> 02:11:37,920
Speaker 1: the Sea Murder. I'm not sure I could be. I

2918
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:40,920
Speaker 1: could be a bugging, but I remember at one point

2919
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:43,520
Speaker 1: it's like what, yeah, it's like six years. He got

2920
02:11:43,560 --> 02:11:46,800
Speaker 1: six years for a homicide like that. Shit is crazy,

2921
02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:49,240
Speaker 1: like who And especially if you were a young boy.

2922
02:11:49,280 --> 02:11:52,920
Speaker 1: Le's suppose you fourteen years old, do six years five years.

2923
02:11:53,000 --> 02:11:54,160
Speaker 2: You can come home you're still.

2924
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:56,960
Speaker 4: Twenty were and you get celebrated when you come home,

2925
02:11:57,040 --> 02:11:58,960
Speaker 4: they throw you a party when you get out of jail. Wow,

2926
02:11:59,200 --> 02:12:01,440
Speaker 4: But when your cousin graduate from college, he don't get

2927
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:02,760
Speaker 4: celebrated the same way at all.

2928
02:12:03,200 --> 02:12:07,160
Speaker 5: That ain't hip hop. That's hipocritical hip hop. Well, that's

2929
02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:09,440
Speaker 5: definitely not hip hop. This is the conversation about what

2930
02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:13,760
Speaker 5: hip hop is because let's do that. There's rap music, yeap,

2931
02:12:14,400 --> 02:12:20,640
Speaker 5: the business, the music industry, selling records, commercialism, and then

2932
02:12:20,680 --> 02:12:23,080
Speaker 5: there's the culture. Right because you talked about a lot

2933
02:12:23,120 --> 02:12:25,320
Speaker 5: of things that you did outside of just being a rapper,

2934
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:27,360
Speaker 5: so all of it had something to do with being

2935
02:12:27,520 --> 02:12:30,040
Speaker 5: hip hop. Right, I do twenty four hours a piece

2936
02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:33,200
Speaker 5: of Nork, New Jersey as an organizer, activists and educator.

2937
02:12:33,280 --> 02:12:35,839
Speaker 2: I always embody hip hop.

2938
02:12:36,600 --> 02:12:37,000
Speaker 1: Do it all.

2939
02:12:37,120 --> 02:12:40,160
Speaker 5: Kelly Westward, Council of the City of Nork, New Jersey,

2940
02:12:40,520 --> 02:12:45,000
Speaker 5: former Lords of the Underground hip Hop ros baraka the Mayor,

2941
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:49,880
Speaker 5: performed on Lauren Hill's album Right hip Hop, not rapping,

2942
02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:53,640
Speaker 5: hip hop, the energy that we carry, the way we

2943
02:12:53,720 --> 02:12:59,400
Speaker 5: relate to one another, how we do things hip hop, journalism, podcasting,

2944
02:13:00,040 --> 02:13:01,000
Speaker 5: it's just dripping.

2945
02:13:00,720 --> 02:13:03,720
Speaker 1: In hip hop. Nobody rapping, nobody spit, no bars.

2946
02:13:04,360 --> 02:13:06,800
Speaker 5: So how we carry ourselves as hip hop, I think

2947
02:13:07,000 --> 02:13:09,520
Speaker 5: we as a people, how we carry ourselves and all

2948
02:13:09,560 --> 02:13:11,800
Speaker 5: the many things that hip hop is involved in get

2949
02:13:11,840 --> 02:13:14,760
Speaker 5: too bad rap because of a part of rap music.

2950
02:13:15,640 --> 02:13:16,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I got you.

2951
02:13:17,480 --> 02:13:19,680
Speaker 4: I tell you this, bro. I was exposed early on

2952
02:13:19,840 --> 02:13:22,640
Speaker 4: to a lot of stuff that it let me see

2953
02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:24,920
Speaker 4: the industry side and how dark it was right. I

2954
02:13:25,040 --> 02:13:26,800
Speaker 4: had the executive who I was trying to get him

2955
02:13:26,840 --> 02:13:28,440
Speaker 4: to be my manager at the time. He was a

2956
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:31,520
Speaker 4: gay dude, right, and he definitely told me like, if

2957
02:13:31,560 --> 02:13:34,640
Speaker 4: I had sex with him, he'll start working with me.

2958
02:13:35,000 --> 02:13:35,120
Speaker 1: Right.

2959
02:13:35,400 --> 02:13:37,040
Speaker 4: I went to a video shoot, I had to drive

2960
02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:40,160
Speaker 4: out of town. You definitely told me like, look, if

2961
02:13:40,200 --> 02:13:41,920
Speaker 4: you do something for me, I could do something for you.

2962
02:13:43,480 --> 02:13:45,480
Speaker 4: And if you're real, then you can read between the lines.

2963
02:13:45,720 --> 02:13:47,680
Speaker 4: I had no leverage. I had no leverage at the

2964
02:13:47,720 --> 02:13:49,560
Speaker 4: time because I was a young dude trying to get

2965
02:13:49,600 --> 02:13:53,839
Speaker 4: on right. So if I had no leverage and no morals,

2966
02:13:54,080 --> 02:13:57,000
Speaker 4: I would have got my booty tools, right. But because

2967
02:13:57,040 --> 02:13:59,760
Speaker 4: I had no leverage, but big morals don't sell. Yeah,

2968
02:14:00,160 --> 02:14:02,960
Speaker 4: you feel me, right, I didn't sell my body right, right.

2969
02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:05,280
Speaker 4: So this is something that people got to know it.

2970
02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:10,120
Speaker 4: That's why I said, this conversation is about purpose. When

2971
02:14:10,160 --> 02:14:12,760
Speaker 4: you know your purpose, it don't matter what room you

2972
02:14:12,880 --> 02:14:13,320
Speaker 4: stepping in.

2973
02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:16,720
Speaker 2: You know, God, you got a purpose for me being

2974
02:14:16,760 --> 02:14:17,200
Speaker 2: in that room.

2975
02:14:17,360 --> 02:14:19,360
Speaker 4: Anything I do in that room has to be something

2976
02:14:19,400 --> 02:14:21,440
Speaker 4: that when I leave that room, I can look up

2977
02:14:21,480 --> 02:14:23,600
Speaker 4: and say, oh, you're proud of how I conducted myself.

2978
02:14:24,160 --> 02:14:26,200
Speaker 4: Too many people get in the rap gang without knowing

2979
02:14:26,240 --> 02:14:28,880
Speaker 4: their purpose. They just think that purpose is to get

2980
02:14:28,960 --> 02:14:31,280
Speaker 4: famous or get some money. Right. I did an interview

2981
02:14:31,280 --> 02:14:34,200
Speaker 4: with Memphis Bleak. Right, Memphis Bleek was like, Ded, I

2982
02:14:34,360 --> 02:14:36,760
Speaker 4: promise you, bro, we were just trying to feed moms.

2983
02:14:36,840 --> 02:14:38,280
Speaker 4: We was in the project.

2984
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:39,200
Speaker 2: You heard me back then.

2985
02:14:39,240 --> 02:14:41,280
Speaker 4: We weren't even thinking that deep about it. And I

2986
02:14:41,440 --> 02:14:43,920
Speaker 4: understand that. That's why I don't never have smoke for

2987
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:46,560
Speaker 4: the seventeen year olds, the twenty one year olds, the

2988
02:14:46,640 --> 02:14:48,520
Speaker 4: twenty five year olds inside.

2989
02:14:48,160 --> 02:14:48,640
Speaker 1: Of hip hop.

2990
02:14:48,920 --> 02:14:53,160
Speaker 4: But when you forty five and fifty five, at that point,

2991
02:14:53,320 --> 02:14:55,520
Speaker 4: it's like, brother, you not an OG, you a DG.

2992
02:14:56,040 --> 02:14:59,320
Speaker 2: You a disappointed grown up, and.

2993
02:14:59,480 --> 02:15:01,920
Speaker 4: We have to be able to call it out and

2994
02:15:02,000 --> 02:15:03,760
Speaker 4: say I'm calling it for what it is, but it's

2995
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:06,320
Speaker 4: still love and the real respect me. That's why Kendrick

2996
02:15:06,400 --> 02:15:08,040
Speaker 4: Lamos shouted me out. I don't know if y'all know that,

2997
02:15:08,200 --> 02:15:10,360
Speaker 4: but he did a song called watch the Party Die

2998
02:15:10,400 --> 02:15:13,000
Speaker 4: when he was beefing with Drake. Kendrick the hottest rapper

2999
02:15:13,000 --> 02:15:15,160
Speaker 4: in the world at the time, and did the song

3000
02:15:15,200 --> 02:15:17,040
Speaker 4: watch the Party Die. He said, I want to be

3001
02:15:17,160 --> 02:15:21,920
Speaker 4: empathetic my heart like d one, I will and then

3002
02:15:21,960 --> 02:15:24,080
Speaker 4: he got silent for a whole ball because he basically

3003
02:15:24,200 --> 02:15:27,080
Speaker 4: was saying, I'm so frustrated. I want y'all is to

3004
02:15:27,320 --> 02:15:30,720
Speaker 4: die at this point, the party need to die, because

3005
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:32,880
Speaker 4: that's what y'all got us thinking, is that all this

3006
02:15:33,440 --> 02:15:36,800
Speaker 4: negativity and sin is cool. And he was so frustrated.

3007
02:15:37,040 --> 02:15:39,880
Speaker 4: So the real gun always recognized the real bro. And

3008
02:15:39,960 --> 02:15:41,640
Speaker 4: that's why I don't be you know, I don't be

3009
02:15:41,720 --> 02:15:44,400
Speaker 4: tripping man like people not supposed to agree with what

3010
02:15:44,520 --> 02:15:47,520
Speaker 4: I do if what I'm saying is a threat to

3011
02:15:47,640 --> 02:15:48,480
Speaker 4: what they represent.

3012
02:15:48,880 --> 02:15:51,080
Speaker 1: At some point, we got a clash, and it's a

3013
02:15:51,120 --> 02:15:51,800
Speaker 1: spiritual war.

3014
02:15:51,920 --> 02:15:53,720
Speaker 4: So I know how to clash with you and still

3015
02:15:53,760 --> 02:15:55,840
Speaker 4: love you in the in and still put my arm

3016
02:15:55,880 --> 02:15:57,680
Speaker 4: around in still wash your feet if I need to.

3017
02:15:58,440 --> 02:16:00,480
Speaker 1: You feel me. So we got a game that we play.

3018
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:03,400
Speaker 1: It's called a Quick Time with Slime started drinking game.

3019
02:16:03,440 --> 02:16:05,640
Speaker 1: But obviously we're not drinking, so that's okay. But i'mnna

3020
02:16:05,680 --> 02:16:09,360
Speaker 1: still ask you the questions and you pick either. All

3021
02:16:09,480 --> 02:16:11,480
Speaker 1: I did tell you I will drink for the first time.

3022
02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:15,720
Speaker 4: You gotta be you gotta turnt what you just do

3023
02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:16,120
Speaker 4: right now.

3024
02:16:16,120 --> 02:16:17,400
Speaker 2: If you can't do that, I drink.

3025
02:16:20,080 --> 02:16:23,040
Speaker 1: Oh you want to drink for I mean you can.

3026
02:16:23,200 --> 02:16:23,840
Speaker 2: Okay, we're good.

3027
02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:26,080
Speaker 4: Come on, man, we're good.

3028
02:16:27,120 --> 02:16:27,320
Speaker 1: Brother.

3029
02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:31,360
Speaker 4: They stay so brother, you don't.

3030
02:16:31,160 --> 02:16:37,039
Speaker 1: Have to drink, all right, So it's one or the other,

3031
02:16:39,120 --> 02:16:41,480
Speaker 1: and if you pick both, then then we drink. Obviously

3032
02:16:41,520 --> 02:16:44,320
Speaker 1: we ain't drinking, so it's okay, but we're still gonna play.

3033
02:16:44,120 --> 02:16:45,240
Speaker 2: The game as if we were drinking.

3034
02:16:45,360 --> 02:16:45,640
Speaker 1: Let's go.

3035
02:16:46,840 --> 02:16:48,720
Speaker 2: So when the people see the clips, they probably thinking

3036
02:16:48,760 --> 02:16:52,520
Speaker 2: you were drinking. All right? Yeah, I keep using that.

3037
02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:57,720
Speaker 4: Not turn water in the white, right, d m X

3038
02:16:58,800 --> 02:17:07,680
Speaker 4: or Tupac and your dog, I gotta go with X.

3039
02:17:08,920 --> 02:17:09,240
Speaker 1: You know what.

3040
02:17:10,560 --> 02:17:14,160
Speaker 4: DMX and Tupac both transcending figures in hip hop.

3041
02:17:14,800 --> 02:17:17,279
Speaker 2: But I had a spiritual connection with DMX.

3042
02:17:17,760 --> 02:17:20,360
Speaker 4: I met that man, I prayed with that man, and

3043
02:17:20,480 --> 02:17:23,879
Speaker 4: I felt that man spirit and that in person interaction.

3044
02:17:24,440 --> 02:17:26,959
Speaker 4: Nothing could replace that bro. I truly believe that there

3045
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:29,560
Speaker 4: are some people that are going to heaven because of DMX.

3046
02:17:29,680 --> 02:17:30,520
Speaker 1: Is life right?

3047
02:17:30,640 --> 02:17:35,160
Speaker 2: No, I believe that. I believe that KRS one or Rocket.

3048
02:17:36,360 --> 02:17:40,320
Speaker 4: Me personally. Yeah, I'm gonna go with KRS one. I

3049
02:17:40,360 --> 02:17:43,160
Speaker 4: gotta tell you why. Let's go because KRS one, what's

3050
02:17:43,200 --> 02:17:46,520
Speaker 4: his nickname? The teacher? And when you think of D One?

3051
02:17:46,600 --> 02:17:48,920
Speaker 4: What was D one before he was a raffer teacher?

3052
02:17:49,080 --> 02:17:52,560
Speaker 4: Hear it? So anybody that's using hip hop to edutain people,

3053
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:56,000
Speaker 4: to educate and entertained people, you're a friend of mine

3054
02:17:56,120 --> 02:18:00,480
Speaker 4: to shout out to KRS one. I saw him Rockers

3055
02:18:00,520 --> 02:18:02,680
Speaker 4: show in Virginia Beach. I was on the bill I

3056
02:18:02,760 --> 02:18:05,080
Speaker 4: opened up for him a year ago for Junet.

3057
02:18:05,760 --> 02:18:07,880
Speaker 1: He's the only one that I seen besides d m

3058
02:18:08,080 --> 02:18:12,280
Speaker 1: X that cauld like like have a full spledged speech

3059
02:18:12,920 --> 02:18:15,160
Speaker 1: in the middle of his performance, and no one kind

3060
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:17,520
Speaker 1: of He's not even performance.

3061
02:18:21,080 --> 02:18:22,199
Speaker 4: Speaking the game now.

3062
02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:24,440
Speaker 1: To come to the t sher.

3063
02:18:24,800 --> 02:18:27,440
Speaker 2: Nobody gets bored, nobody gets mad. This is a ted

3064
02:18:27,560 --> 02:18:30,360
Speaker 2: talk malice or mace.

3065
02:18:31,920 --> 02:18:42,039
Speaker 4: Oh man, I gotta go board, okay, And I'm gonna

3066
02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:43,720
Speaker 4: tell you why. Just the time we would drink, but

3067
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:47,880
Speaker 4: all right, drink, let's take our water shots here, man

3068
02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:49,400
Speaker 4: mm hmm.

3069
02:18:51,120 --> 02:18:51,520
Speaker 1: Was strong.

3070
02:18:51,560 --> 02:18:51,880
Speaker 2: All right.

3071
02:18:52,560 --> 02:18:56,560
Speaker 4: So let me tell you why. I met Mallis when

3072
02:18:56,600 --> 02:18:59,600
Speaker 4: he was early into his journey, right after he left

3073
02:18:59,600 --> 02:19:00,240
Speaker 4: the clip.

3074
02:19:00,000 --> 02:19:03,600
Speaker 2: When journey his spiritual journey, his Christian walk, right.

3075
02:19:03,879 --> 02:19:07,080
Speaker 4: I met him early. I went to Virginia, had a real,

3076
02:19:07,200 --> 02:19:09,560
Speaker 4: real good sitting down with him and some OG's from

3077
02:19:09,640 --> 02:19:12,200
Speaker 4: his neighborhood. I think we filmed a podcast. This was

3078
02:19:12,240 --> 02:19:15,879
Speaker 4: at the beginning of podcasting, right, And I just saw

3079
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:20,200
Speaker 4: a brother who was totally comfortable walking away from everything

3080
02:19:20,280 --> 02:19:23,520
Speaker 4: the devil could offer you and saying, I just want

3081
02:19:23,560 --> 02:19:25,920
Speaker 4: whatever God got for me. And that piece that I

3082
02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:29,160
Speaker 4: saw that he had, I said, God, please bless me

3083
02:19:29,600 --> 02:19:31,840
Speaker 4: so that I can have that level of peace about

3084
02:19:31,879 --> 02:19:33,520
Speaker 4: doing your will for the rest of my life.

3085
02:19:33,640 --> 02:19:33,760
Speaker 1: Right.

3086
02:19:34,160 --> 02:19:37,160
Speaker 4: So, Malice truly impacted me that day that I met

3087
02:19:37,240 --> 02:19:41,200
Speaker 4: him in person. Mace, Mace is a spiritual advisor to

3088
02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:44,360
Speaker 4: me in real life. Like I've been to Mason's church.

3089
02:19:44,360 --> 02:19:48,160
Speaker 4: I go to Mason's Church, I get fed. Like Mace

3090
02:19:48,280 --> 02:19:51,440
Speaker 4: is a spiritual mentor to me. My anti strip club

3091
02:19:51,520 --> 02:19:54,000
Speaker 4: song that I got called shut Him Down. I recorded

3092
02:19:54,040 --> 02:19:56,120
Speaker 4: that with Mace in the room standing right next to me.

3093
02:19:56,200 --> 02:19:59,959
Speaker 4: Oh crazy, Yeah, Like that's something to what we had

3094
02:20:00,040 --> 02:20:02,360
Speaker 4: have real deep talks. That's like, that's a that's a

3095
02:20:02,400 --> 02:20:03,640
Speaker 4: spiritual mentor of mine.

3096
02:20:03,680 --> 02:20:03,800
Speaker 1: Bro.

3097
02:20:04,080 --> 02:20:07,959
Speaker 4: We have serious talks about spiritual matters. We talk about sports,

3098
02:20:08,120 --> 02:20:09,360
Speaker 4: we talk about regular things.

3099
02:20:09,440 --> 02:20:12,760
Speaker 2: But that's a brother. Okay, I'm gonna give this to you.

3100
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:17,400
Speaker 2: That press or black Star.

3101
02:20:22,360 --> 02:20:26,640
Speaker 1: Damn, that's hard.

3102
02:20:30,360 --> 02:20:36,560
Speaker 4: Damn all right, you too, you.

3103
02:20:38,240 --> 02:20:39,400
Speaker 2: Did Prayers or Black Star?

3104
02:20:41,480 --> 02:20:41,680
Speaker 1: Oh?

3105
02:20:42,879 --> 02:20:46,400
Speaker 4: Man, it's tough when you got relationships with both sides.

3106
02:20:46,600 --> 02:20:47,760
Speaker 4: HER's tough.

3107
02:20:47,920 --> 02:20:48,000
Speaker 2: Bro.

3108
02:20:48,800 --> 02:20:56,280
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna say for one reason only, I'm gonna

3109
02:20:56,280 --> 02:21:00,640
Speaker 4: say dead Press. No, I'm not saying, I'm say and both. Okay,

3110
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:06,480
Speaker 4: can I say why though, dead Press? Let's get free?

3111
02:21:08,280 --> 02:21:08,400
Speaker 1: Bro.

3112
02:21:09,440 --> 02:21:12,600
Speaker 4: I was in college starting to rap right when I

3113
02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:14,400
Speaker 4: when I heard that, just starting to rap, just just

3114
02:21:14,480 --> 02:21:17,120
Speaker 4: trying to find my voice, hearing that you could be

3115
02:21:17,240 --> 02:21:22,200
Speaker 4: revolutionary but gangster at the same time. Right that, I

3116
02:21:22,240 --> 02:21:25,680
Speaker 4: got goosebumps, just the intro on the album, just the intro.

3117
02:21:25,840 --> 02:21:28,040
Speaker 4: I got goosebumps talking about it, right now, you heard me.

3118
02:21:28,200 --> 02:21:30,320
Speaker 4: Then I met them brothers, did music with them, brothers,

3119
02:21:30,400 --> 02:21:33,560
Speaker 4: we did bro. We got real memories together, right, But

3120
02:21:33,800 --> 02:21:38,080
Speaker 4: black Star Man the Most def got a song together.

3121
02:21:38,160 --> 02:21:40,320
Speaker 4: Most Death used to live in New Orleans. So when

3122
02:21:40,320 --> 02:21:47,760
Speaker 4: he moved to New Orleans, everywhere, both of them.

3123
02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:52,080
Speaker 2: So he's a man is his turf, Earth is his turf.

3124
02:21:52,200 --> 02:21:54,840
Speaker 4: So man Most Death moved to New Orleans, him and

3125
02:21:54,920 --> 02:21:57,520
Speaker 4: Many Fresh were working on the album together, right, Okay,

3126
02:21:57,600 --> 02:22:00,280
Speaker 4: I do remember that? Yeah, so one night after an event,

3127
02:22:01,080 --> 02:22:02,640
Speaker 4: they used to have something in New Orleans called the

3128
02:22:02,720 --> 02:22:03,320
Speaker 4: Beat Summit.

3129
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:07,320
Speaker 1: This was versus before versus. Okay, it was Manu Fresh.

3130
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:11,240
Speaker 4: And Koc playing their best beats. Right. You had Juvenile

3131
02:22:11,360 --> 02:22:14,040
Speaker 4: on one side, you had mister Go on the other side. Right, yeah,

3132
02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:16,680
Speaker 4: And I'm in there, I'm witnessing this. I'm like, yo,

3133
02:22:16,760 --> 02:22:20,320
Speaker 4: this is crazy. So afterwards Many Fresh is going to

3134
02:22:20,400 --> 02:22:22,680
Speaker 4: the studio. So I'm like, bet, I'm finna pull up

3135
02:22:22,680 --> 02:22:25,440
Speaker 4: at the studio with Fresh right, most Death ends up

3136
02:22:25,480 --> 02:22:28,920
Speaker 4: coming through right. So at the time Fresh Many Freshness

3137
02:22:28,959 --> 02:22:31,440
Speaker 4: beats are so dope. Did any beat he plays? I

3138
02:22:31,600 --> 02:22:33,640
Speaker 4: just be like, yep, that one right there. I'm about

3139
02:22:33,640 --> 02:22:34,280
Speaker 4: to write to it.

3140
02:22:34,400 --> 02:22:34,520
Speaker 1: Right.

3141
02:22:34,920 --> 02:22:37,959
Speaker 4: So I'm now recording We and my Body Trombone shorty studio.

3142
02:22:38,680 --> 02:22:41,280
Speaker 4: I'm recording to a man in Fresh Beat most Death

3143
02:22:41,320 --> 02:22:43,520
Speaker 4: comes and he just kicking it during the session. When

3144
02:22:43,600 --> 02:22:46,039
Speaker 4: the set, when he's about to leave, he comes over

3145
02:22:46,160 --> 02:22:48,040
Speaker 4: to the booth where I'm recording that to dap me

3146
02:22:48,160 --> 02:22:50,360
Speaker 4: off to say bye. So I was like, man, I

3147
02:22:50,360 --> 02:22:52,560
Speaker 4: got to shoot my shot. So when he dapped me off,

3148
02:22:52,879 --> 02:22:55,119
Speaker 4: I said, most could you hop on this song right quick?

3149
02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:57,200
Speaker 4: And I took the headphones off and just put them

3150
02:22:57,200 --> 02:22:59,080
Speaker 4: on Most's head and I was like, brother, can you

3151
02:22:59,200 --> 02:23:01,240
Speaker 4: just say something on the drag and blessed me? Right,

3152
02:23:01,760 --> 02:23:05,120
Speaker 4: So Most heard the beat and that brother, next thing,

3153
02:23:05,120 --> 02:23:07,560
Speaker 4: I know, he got into his groove and Most started

3154
02:23:07,640 --> 02:23:10,080
Speaker 4: spitting some type of the next thing, I know, Most

3155
02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:13,240
Speaker 4: freestyled a whole bridge and a hook for me for

3156
02:23:13,400 --> 02:23:13,800
Speaker 4: this song.

3157
02:23:14,160 --> 02:23:15,440
Speaker 2: He just did it in one take.

3158
02:23:15,760 --> 02:23:18,400
Speaker 4: He finished thatping me off, he said, Pece Young King

3159
02:23:18,680 --> 02:23:20,840
Speaker 4: and he walked out. Yeah, And I was like, I

3160
02:23:20,920 --> 02:23:22,080
Speaker 4: got a Most death feature.

3161
02:23:22,160 --> 02:23:23,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, just like that.

3162
02:23:23,440 --> 02:23:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I never Yeah, so poor righteous teachers all

3163
02:23:28,480 --> 02:23:29,400
Speaker 1: public enemy.

3164
02:23:30,680 --> 02:23:35,000
Speaker 4: Public enemy all day. I'm on public Him his new album. Literally,

3165
02:23:35,080 --> 02:23:37,400
Speaker 4: like I wrote, I co wrote two songs on Public

3166
02:23:37,520 --> 02:23:38,199
Speaker 4: Him his new album.

3167
02:23:38,240 --> 02:23:39,360
Speaker 1: And it's crazy.

3168
02:23:39,520 --> 02:23:41,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, bro, it's crazy. Oh yeah. People don't know this

3169
02:23:41,480 --> 02:23:43,200
Speaker 4: because they just want to talk to me about what

3170
02:23:44,000 --> 02:23:46,680
Speaker 4: rappers and don't like Devon or whatever. No, bro, I

3171
02:23:46,760 --> 02:23:50,000
Speaker 4: got co wrote two songs on public Enem his new album, Flavor.

3172
02:23:50,120 --> 02:23:53,480
Speaker 4: Flav is my brother of course, like my real life.

3173
02:23:53,560 --> 02:23:56,040
Speaker 1: No no, no, I don't like we FaceTime once a

3174
02:23:56,120 --> 02:23:57,280
Speaker 1: week and least right.

3175
02:23:57,840 --> 02:24:00,199
Speaker 4: He came to Harvard where I was doing a fellowship

3176
02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:02,960
Speaker 4: and I met him at Harvard University. We hopped in

3177
02:24:03,000 --> 02:24:06,080
Speaker 4: the studio a day later, did some music, and we've

3178
02:24:06,080 --> 02:24:08,640
Speaker 4: been good ever since. Right that being said, one of

3179
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:10,880
Speaker 4: our songs got licensed by the NBA, so it's been

3180
02:24:10,920 --> 02:24:13,480
Speaker 4: the theme song for the NBA on Amazon Prime for

3181
02:24:13,600 --> 02:24:17,320
Speaker 4: this whole season. Right, and Chuck D is literally who

3182
02:24:17,400 --> 02:24:20,600
Speaker 4: I have patterned myself after as an artist, Like, who's

3183
02:24:20,680 --> 02:24:24,959
Speaker 4: someone who's educated, Who's someone who just have a voice

3184
02:24:25,200 --> 02:24:29,160
Speaker 4: and lyrics that make you say, this dude loves our people,

3185
02:24:29,480 --> 02:24:31,720
Speaker 4: and this dude wants us to get better. Right, So

3186
02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:36,360
Speaker 4: I'm literally like Lil Wayne and Chuck D put together.

3187
02:24:37,040 --> 02:24:38,200
Speaker 4: You felt bad?

3188
02:24:38,520 --> 02:24:41,000
Speaker 1: That bad? Yes?

3189
02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:45,240
Speaker 2: I love this one always. N w A or Wu

3190
02:24:45,360 --> 02:24:45,840
Speaker 2: Tang Klan.

3191
02:24:53,600 --> 02:24:57,800
Speaker 4: I'm not going with n w A M because I

3192
02:24:57,879 --> 02:25:01,480
Speaker 4: feel like I feel like the Murderwaight Murder Ray went

3193
02:25:01,600 --> 02:25:03,160
Speaker 4: up after they really came out.

3194
02:25:03,240 --> 02:25:04,520
Speaker 1: You gotta be careful. We had.

3195
02:25:06,080 --> 02:25:07,720
Speaker 2: Especially come in here and say.

3196
02:25:09,080 --> 02:25:12,520
Speaker 1: It's crazy. They messed up on the West Coast music

3197
02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:14,480
Speaker 1: by bringing the gangster to it. And when I tell you,

3198
02:25:14,560 --> 02:25:16,720
Speaker 1: the West Coast people, they they.

3199
02:25:18,240 --> 02:25:20,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were going crazy.

3200
02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:22,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, just because you get mad doesn't mean that

3201
02:25:22,680 --> 02:25:23,240
Speaker 4: it's not true.

3202
02:25:23,640 --> 02:25:24,160
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

3203
02:25:25,360 --> 02:25:32,640
Speaker 4: The glorification of gangster life of violence started to become

3204
02:25:32,720 --> 02:25:35,640
Speaker 4: more and more cool when in Wa came out. There's

3205
02:25:35,640 --> 02:25:38,880
Speaker 4: people in New Orleans who have told me, huge rappers

3206
02:25:38,879 --> 02:25:40,640
Speaker 4: who I won't say their name, who have told me

3207
02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:43,240
Speaker 4: when that n WA came out, that's what helped me

3208
02:25:43,320 --> 02:25:44,080
Speaker 4: jump off the poach.

3209
02:25:44,240 --> 02:25:47,480
Speaker 1: Well, y'all, y'all was wearing dickies, y'all was wearing reboxed

3210
02:25:47,840 --> 02:25:50,000
Speaker 1: and that was kind of like a West coast West coast, So.

3211
02:25:50,040 --> 02:25:52,960
Speaker 4: The influence was real, right, and we could try to

3212
02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:55,640
Speaker 4: pull as much extract as much positivity as we want

3213
02:25:55,680 --> 02:25:57,480
Speaker 4: out of that stuff. But at the end of the day,

3214
02:25:57,560 --> 02:26:01,680
Speaker 4: man like the glorification of violence inside of hip hop,

3215
02:26:01,760 --> 02:26:04,200
Speaker 4: anybody that helped contribute to that and make it sound

3216
02:26:04,600 --> 02:26:08,199
Speaker 4: like cool, I'm not cool with that. The glorification of pimping,

3217
02:26:08,280 --> 02:26:11,040
Speaker 4: the glorification of disrespecting women, I ain't cool with that.

3218
02:26:11,280 --> 02:26:15,520
Speaker 4: So uh n w A. Unfortunately, while as individuals, I

3219
02:26:15,640 --> 02:26:18,240
Speaker 4: love all them brothers, right, I love them as individuals,

3220
02:26:18,480 --> 02:26:20,960
Speaker 4: but I don't think that that was a positive contribution

3221
02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:27,080
Speaker 4: to our culture. Strength, brother strength, you feel me, J

3222
02:26:27,280 --> 02:26:30,680
Speaker 4: Cole or Kendrick Lamar, you can't have one without the other.

3223
02:26:31,800 --> 02:26:35,760
Speaker 4: We needed both of them for this generation. You need

3224
02:26:35,840 --> 02:26:41,160
Speaker 4: a cold to be level headed, to not be materialistic,

3225
02:26:41,560 --> 02:26:44,440
Speaker 4: to dress like man, I just woke up and through

3226
02:26:44,520 --> 02:26:47,000
Speaker 4: some on but I got more money than all of y'all. Wait,

3227
02:26:47,160 --> 02:26:48,000
Speaker 4: but what what what?

3228
02:26:48,440 --> 02:26:50,640
Speaker 1: He wasn't like that at first. Remember he had songs

3229
02:26:50,640 --> 02:26:51,720
Speaker 1: called mister the Nice Watch.

3230
02:26:54,160 --> 02:26:56,320
Speaker 4: But he did what we talked about. He developed, develop

3231
02:26:56,400 --> 02:26:58,480
Speaker 4: He developed, right, he grew there you go, and he grew.

3232
02:26:58,800 --> 02:27:03,000
Speaker 4: We needed that, right, We needed that. But we needed

3233
02:27:03,080 --> 02:27:05,800
Speaker 4: Kendrick to come out and be like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

3234
02:27:06,480 --> 02:27:09,959
Speaker 4: I grew up influenced by n w A, influenced by all.

3235
02:27:09,920 --> 02:27:10,680
Speaker 1: The all the.

3236
02:27:12,680 --> 02:27:15,640
Speaker 4: All the violence, all the hood right there in Compton.

3237
02:27:15,720 --> 02:27:18,280
Speaker 4: I grew up in a mad city, but it didn't

3238
02:27:18,320 --> 02:27:21,520
Speaker 4: prevent me from being a good kid. And we needed

3239
02:27:21,600 --> 02:27:24,000
Speaker 4: that so that people could see what art looks like

3240
02:27:24,920 --> 02:27:28,640
Speaker 4: when hip hop can win a pull it surprise you

3241
02:27:28,720 --> 02:27:29,040
Speaker 4: feel me.

3242
02:27:29,280 --> 02:27:33,640
Speaker 1: I believe Nas won one too. I think Kendrick was the.

3243
02:27:33,640 --> 02:27:38,800
Speaker 4: First rapt surprise, not the one so much shout out

3244
02:27:38,840 --> 02:27:42,240
Speaker 4: of one of those joints. Yeah, not the one so much.

3245
02:27:42,440 --> 02:27:44,760
Speaker 4: We needed both of those, though, because sometimes you can

3246
02:27:44,840 --> 02:27:48,360
Speaker 4: have two sides of the same coin, and if people

3247
02:27:48,400 --> 02:27:50,760
Speaker 4: don't see both sides of the coin, they might be like, well,

3248
02:27:51,000 --> 02:27:53,560
Speaker 4: Jake Cole is cool, but it's something about him, don't

3249
02:27:53,600 --> 02:27:54,880
Speaker 4: all the way connect with it. But then it's like

3250
02:27:55,480 --> 02:27:57,680
Speaker 4: we got Kendrick Lamar and a person that'll be like

3251
02:27:58,200 --> 02:28:00,440
Speaker 4: I connect with that all person that couldn't that with

3252
02:28:00,560 --> 02:28:03,119
Speaker 4: Kendrick Like yeah, he dope, but I don't know, it's

3253
02:28:03,160 --> 02:28:04,840
Speaker 4: just a little too deep for me. And then they'll

3254
02:28:04,879 --> 02:28:08,760
Speaker 4: hear j Cole wrapping about the first time he ever

3255
02:28:09,120 --> 02:28:11,439
Speaker 4: had sex with somebody and they're like, dang, that's relatable,

3256
02:28:11,440 --> 02:28:13,000
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Or they're the first things,

3257
02:28:13,040 --> 02:28:15,200
Speaker 4: first recipes, Uncle Phil, and they'll be like, yeah, that

3258
02:28:15,320 --> 02:28:17,240
Speaker 4: that really speaks to me. So I think we needed

3259
02:28:17,240 --> 02:28:19,400
Speaker 4: both of them for this generation. And by the grace

3260
02:28:19,440 --> 02:28:21,040
Speaker 4: of God, I got relationships with both of them.

3261
02:28:21,080 --> 02:28:25,880
Speaker 1: Brothers. Need said I'm gonna I'm gonna say Drake as well.

3262
02:28:26,000 --> 02:28:30,000
Speaker 1: We needed we needed a Drake explained, we needed all

3263
02:28:30,160 --> 02:28:32,960
Speaker 1: sides of the coin, you know what. For lack of

3264
02:28:33,040 --> 02:28:37,440
Speaker 1: a better term, him making girl music it calmed you down,

3265
02:28:37,560 --> 02:28:40,720
Speaker 1: like if you actually I gotta give give it to Drake,

3266
02:28:41,080 --> 02:28:44,480
Speaker 1: like you're in the club and Drake comes on you,

3267
02:28:44,760 --> 02:28:47,039
Speaker 1: you do get calmed down. If he's talking to them girls,

3268
02:28:47,440 --> 02:28:49,600
Speaker 1: you should have called me on my cell phone and

3269
02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:50,400
Speaker 1: all that like that.

3270
02:28:51,480 --> 02:28:54,120
Speaker 2: You don't want to you don't want to be violent

3271
02:28:54,160 --> 02:28:54,320
Speaker 2: at it.

3272
02:28:55,200 --> 02:28:58,720
Speaker 1: You got to realize if you're listening to yeah, put

3273
02:28:58,840 --> 02:29:00,800
Speaker 1: him in the face and then it's nice ship. Come on,

3274
02:29:00,920 --> 02:29:02,800
Speaker 1: hey man, you know what I mean, Like, all right,

3275
02:29:03,040 --> 02:29:04,280
Speaker 1: thank you Drake, Like you know what I'm saying.

3276
02:29:04,720 --> 02:29:07,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, because we got it.

3277
02:29:07,120 --> 02:29:08,760
Speaker 1: We got we got to perform, right, we got to

3278
02:29:08,800 --> 02:29:11,720
Speaker 1: be outside. So that's a good point. We needed Drake.

3279
02:29:11,800 --> 02:29:12,960
Speaker 1: This generation needed Drake.

3280
02:29:13,080 --> 02:29:15,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, of course, because I don't think after doing this

3281
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:17,600
Speaker 4: in the club that you just want to kill somebody.

3282
02:29:19,160 --> 02:29:24,400
Speaker 1: In fact, looking at you like, hey, you like but yeah.

3283
02:29:24,840 --> 02:29:26,400
Speaker 2: And Drake is still a work in progress.

3284
02:29:26,520 --> 02:29:30,000
Speaker 4: I think Drake showed growth on this latest album, Iceman

3285
02:29:30,360 --> 02:29:31,000
Speaker 4: did he release.

3286
02:29:31,160 --> 02:29:33,200
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this, not only that, not only that,

3287
02:29:35,560 --> 02:29:40,080
Speaker 1: Like you're going against establishment that has a name, that

3288
02:29:40,200 --> 02:29:43,119
Speaker 1: doesn't have a name. He's going out of the establishment

3289
02:29:43,280 --> 02:29:46,959
Speaker 1: and naming the names other people that's in the establishment.

3290
02:29:47,640 --> 02:29:52,840
Speaker 1: This is crazy, Like I know, we living in the times,

3291
02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:57,199
Speaker 1: so we're not understanding like this is musical freedom standing

3292
02:29:57,280 --> 02:30:01,360
Speaker 1: up like him doing three albums. It wasn't because he

3293
02:30:01,480 --> 02:30:03,320
Speaker 1: wanted to do three albums. In my opinion, I have

3294
02:30:03,400 --> 02:30:06,240
Speaker 1: no inside information, was because he wanted to show them

3295
02:30:06,280 --> 02:30:08,560
Speaker 1: like I believe he owed two and I believe he

3296
02:30:09,720 --> 02:30:14,360
Speaker 1: or maybe he did three. He owed three said okay, okay, three. Yeah,

3297
02:30:14,920 --> 02:30:18,039
Speaker 1: but it's so crazy because they're gonna find a way

3298
02:30:18,080 --> 02:30:19,520
Speaker 1: to try to keep him private.

3299
02:30:19,560 --> 02:30:22,160
Speaker 2: Equity stepped up with a two billion dollar d Okay.

3300
02:30:22,040 --> 02:30:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't know that part, but still, but still they'll

3301
02:30:25,080 --> 02:30:29,360
Speaker 1: they'll they'll try something like where his next two or

3302
02:30:29,400 --> 02:30:31,240
Speaker 1: three albums they'll still be getting paid off of.

3303
02:30:31,600 --> 02:30:35,400
Speaker 4: It's something like that. It's because because what he what

3304
02:30:35,640 --> 02:30:38,080
Speaker 4: he did, in my opinion.

3305
02:30:37,840 --> 02:30:41,360
Speaker 1: Is Michael Jackson ship. Thank you, That is Michael Jackson ship.

3306
02:30:41,440 --> 02:30:43,920
Speaker 1: Like the fact that he stepped up, and I sincerely

3307
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:47,880
Speaker 1: believe I have no inside information. I sincely believe Drake

3308
02:30:47,959 --> 02:30:51,600
Speaker 1: paid for all his promotion. I believe that he seemed

3309
02:30:51,640 --> 02:30:55,360
Speaker 1: like yeah, I believe that he paid for all his promotion,

3310
02:30:56,720 --> 02:30:59,000
Speaker 1: not because the label didn't want to. I believe he

3311
02:30:59,040 --> 02:31:01,680
Speaker 1: didn't want to take no more money from them and

3312
02:31:01,920 --> 02:31:03,280
Speaker 1: was like you know what kind of no matter what,

3313
02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:04,520
Speaker 1: you can't no recoop.

3314
02:31:04,920 --> 02:31:06,200
Speaker 2: You don't know, Yeah, you.

3315
02:31:06,160 --> 02:31:09,119
Speaker 1: Don't know about knowing like the recouping. Like yo, listen back,

3316
02:31:09,320 --> 02:31:13,680
Speaker 1: I s already sound like the old guy. But I

3317
02:31:13,840 --> 02:31:17,400
Speaker 1: remember they used to charge me for billboard's in Japan,

3318
02:31:18,320 --> 02:31:20,080
Speaker 1: and I used to be like, I never asked for

3319
02:31:20,160 --> 02:31:22,880
Speaker 1: no billboard in Japan, and I'm paying for ship I

3320
02:31:23,000 --> 02:31:25,320
Speaker 1: did it in Australia and I've never been to Australia

3321
02:31:25,360 --> 02:31:27,600
Speaker 1: at the time. But that's how they used to break down.

3322
02:31:28,520 --> 02:31:29,600
Speaker 2: Now we can see that.

3323
02:31:30,400 --> 02:31:32,280
Speaker 1: We can see that. So like the fact that Drake

3324
02:31:32,320 --> 02:31:34,600
Speaker 1: stepped up and was like he did that Iceman killed

3325
02:31:34,600 --> 02:31:36,280
Speaker 1: on himself. I don't know. This is for a fact.

3326
02:31:36,760 --> 02:31:39,240
Speaker 1: This is me visualizing and me having the experience that

3327
02:31:39,280 --> 02:31:41,320
Speaker 1: I have in hip hop. I believe that he did

3328
02:31:41,400 --> 02:31:43,840
Speaker 1: all that on hisself. And if that, if that is

3329
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:46,680
Speaker 1: possible what you said he got the venture capitalists came

3330
02:31:46,760 --> 02:31:49,720
Speaker 1: up with two Billy. You know, Universe was a very

3331
02:31:49,840 --> 02:31:51,840
Speaker 1: rich company. That might not be enough, or it might

3332
02:31:51,959 --> 02:31:55,680
Speaker 1: be enough, but they'll still have something because he did

3333
02:31:55,760 --> 02:31:59,000
Speaker 1: something that nobody has done since Michael Jackson, and he

3334
02:31:59,160 --> 02:32:02,520
Speaker 1: is he attacked him straight up. He did something even

3335
02:32:02,560 --> 02:32:05,840
Speaker 1: more than Michael Jackson because Michael Jackson never named names,

3336
02:32:06,520 --> 02:32:16,880
Speaker 1: got you drake names. I'm so scared. But yeah, like that,

3337
02:32:17,080 --> 02:32:19,640
Speaker 1: this is it's so crazy. I've never seen this before.

3338
02:32:20,160 --> 02:32:23,280
Speaker 1: Like and obviously I wasn't. I wasn't around, and I

3339
02:32:23,400 --> 02:32:26,480
Speaker 1: wasn't privy to the Michael Jackson situation. When you when

3340
02:32:26,480 --> 02:32:29,240
Speaker 1: you heard that he bought Sony and he owned the

3341
02:32:29,320 --> 02:32:32,520
Speaker 1: Beatles ship. Yeah, like you know, like all that, like

3342
02:32:32,640 --> 02:32:37,360
Speaker 1: that's that's so yeah, that's something that's gangster, that's that's

3343
02:32:37,440 --> 02:32:38,160
Speaker 1: not that's gangs.

3344
02:32:38,360 --> 02:32:41,480
Speaker 2: You know what he did it when he did Off

3345
02:32:41,560 --> 02:32:43,359
Speaker 2: the Wall, uh huh, right, which.

3346
02:32:43,160 --> 02:32:47,119
Speaker 5: Did good, but at the time, like if he wasn't

3347
02:32:47,120 --> 02:32:50,200
Speaker 5: in the crossover white mainstream market, they wasn't checking for

3348
02:32:50,280 --> 02:32:52,800
Speaker 5: you at all. So it was the time Michael Jackson

3349
02:32:52,920 --> 02:32:56,560
Speaker 5: was just for a black audience. But knowing how great

3350
02:32:56,600 --> 02:32:58,840
Speaker 5: it talent he is that I watched this. He did

3351
02:32:58,879 --> 02:33:01,840
Speaker 5: the song with Paul McCartney, the Girl's Mind, to bring

3352
02:33:01,959 --> 02:33:03,720
Speaker 5: the right audience to him.

3353
02:33:04,120 --> 02:33:07,000
Speaker 1: That was the first single, was it Beat It? Beat

3354
02:33:07,000 --> 02:33:10,039
Speaker 1: It with secondary Gene was second. It was the Girl

3355
02:33:10,120 --> 02:33:10,560
Speaker 1: of Mind.

3356
02:33:11,400 --> 02:33:14,800
Speaker 5: Got the jewels about publishing Paul McCartney and then went

3357
02:33:14,840 --> 02:33:15,520
Speaker 5: and bought his ship.

3358
02:33:15,720 --> 02:33:19,880
Speaker 2: Yep, that's hard, not only his shorp the Beatles.

3359
02:33:20,480 --> 02:33:21,000
Speaker 1: The Beatles.

3360
02:33:21,120 --> 02:33:23,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's hard. Wow, that's hard.

3361
02:33:24,120 --> 02:33:24,400
Speaker 4: Wow.

3362
02:33:24,720 --> 02:33:26,320
Speaker 2: So what Drake is doing right now?

3363
02:33:27,440 --> 02:33:27,680
Speaker 3: To me?

3364
02:33:27,920 --> 02:33:29,520
Speaker 4: To me, this is my opinion. I don't want to

3365
02:33:29,920 --> 02:33:30,800
Speaker 4: and I don't have facts.

3366
02:33:31,080 --> 02:33:32,480
Speaker 1: I'm just saying this is the outside of looking at

3367
02:33:32,480 --> 02:33:34,280
Speaker 1: it as the inside of looking out. Don't have no

3368
02:33:34,360 --> 02:33:37,560
Speaker 1: inside information. But the fact that he delivered three albums,

3369
02:33:38,160 --> 02:33:40,160
Speaker 1: the fact that he paid for his own promotion, this

3370
02:33:40,360 --> 02:33:41,960
Speaker 1: is something going against. And then the fact that he

3371
02:33:42,160 --> 02:33:44,680
Speaker 1: named like the executives. Yo, you guys are doing this

3372
02:33:44,879 --> 02:33:46,960
Speaker 1: and regardless of right or not, the fact that he

3373
02:33:47,000 --> 02:33:49,880
Speaker 1: could even make those allegations, that's that's going against the

3374
02:33:50,200 --> 02:33:52,640
Speaker 1: biggest establishment at the top.

3375
02:33:52,720 --> 02:33:53,480
Speaker 2: Of the top form.

3376
02:33:53,640 --> 02:33:56,480
Speaker 1: No one has never did this, no one, Like I said,

3377
02:33:56,480 --> 02:33:58,840
Speaker 1: even when Michael Michael wasn't naming, he was like, I

3378
02:33:58,879 --> 02:34:00,959
Speaker 1: got got Paul McCartney, some publishing.

3379
02:34:02,840 --> 02:34:06,520
Speaker 2: Motherfuckers. He was like, yo, Mike did it quiet, like

3380
02:34:06,640 --> 02:34:08,039
Speaker 2: no one knew until.

3381
02:34:07,840 --> 02:34:10,440
Speaker 1: Afterwards, Like really, but what Drake is doing, he's doing

3382
02:34:10,480 --> 02:34:15,600
Speaker 1: it in public and for artists, you know, because this

3383
02:34:15,720 --> 02:34:17,560
Speaker 1: is what we say as artists, and you know this,

3384
02:34:17,680 --> 02:34:19,000
Speaker 1: y'all both already noticed a.

3385
02:34:19,160 --> 02:34:21,560
Speaker 2: Man our first deal we're gonna sign.

3386
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:25,080
Speaker 1: We were gonna take anything, because our next deal, our

3387
02:34:25,120 --> 02:34:25,760
Speaker 1: next deal, we're.

3388
02:34:25,640 --> 02:34:26,280
Speaker 2: Gonna make it up.

3389
02:34:27,320 --> 02:34:29,120
Speaker 1: Drake has been dealing with that first deal from the

3390
02:34:29,160 --> 02:34:34,000
Speaker 1: beginning with that first deal, because he became worth more

3391
02:34:34,400 --> 02:34:37,080
Speaker 1: and more and more. Where its more people say, you

3392
02:34:37,640 --> 02:34:39,320
Speaker 1: got to you got this, people saying that the day

3393
02:34:39,360 --> 02:34:41,080
Speaker 1: involved with him, you got this, people staying involved. And

3394
02:34:41,160 --> 02:34:42,720
Speaker 1: we've got these people saying the day there in the

3395
02:34:42,760 --> 02:34:45,040
Speaker 1: beginning of them, and it's so many. But he kept

3396
02:34:45,160 --> 02:34:50,000
Speaker 1: making more money that his artistry just became bigger and bigger.

3397
02:34:50,280 --> 02:34:54,360
Speaker 1: But you don't actually sign it out of that first deal. Dang,

3398
02:34:54,920 --> 02:34:58,480
Speaker 1: that's why. Like when Hope said that, he said perpetuity.

3399
02:34:58,680 --> 02:35:02,200
Speaker 1: You know, perpetuity means he did for life. He did.

3400
02:35:02,400 --> 02:35:03,720
Speaker 2: That's the real gang ship.

3401
02:35:05,120 --> 02:35:08,600
Speaker 4: So yeah, so them deals, but you know when I

3402
02:35:08,680 --> 02:35:10,720
Speaker 4: signed my first deal, Drake get out of that.

3403
02:35:10,879 --> 02:35:12,960
Speaker 1: This will be the first, This would be the first

3404
02:35:13,040 --> 02:35:16,680
Speaker 1: time he's like a major artist, did it on a

3405
02:35:16,760 --> 02:35:19,960
Speaker 1: major way. Now, Now what happens is this, Sorry, I

3406
02:35:20,080 --> 02:35:22,000
Speaker 1: want you to lis what you said. What happens is this.

3407
02:35:23,360 --> 02:35:25,920
Speaker 1: Now he gets out of this deal, he gives them

3408
02:35:25,959 --> 02:35:30,160
Speaker 1: the two billion or whatever or this establishment fighting for

3409
02:35:30,320 --> 02:35:32,360
Speaker 1: him not to be who he was when they was there.

3410
02:35:32,560 --> 02:35:34,920
Speaker 1: Of course, because the one thing for Sholte's was certain

3411
02:35:34,920 --> 02:35:37,280
Speaker 1: about being on the record label is you can't give

3412
02:35:37,360 --> 02:35:37,959
Speaker 1: back your fame.

3413
02:35:39,400 --> 02:35:41,800
Speaker 2: True, you can't give back your fame. No matter what

3414
02:35:41,959 --> 02:35:44,840
Speaker 2: they did for you. They could probably try to take

3415
02:35:44,840 --> 02:35:45,240
Speaker 2: your riches.

3416
02:35:45,280 --> 02:35:47,600
Speaker 1: They can probably try to take your cars, if probably

3417
02:35:47,640 --> 02:35:49,480
Speaker 1: try to take what they owe you, they can't take

3418
02:35:49,560 --> 02:35:51,240
Speaker 1: back the fame that they paid on you. So if

3419
02:35:51,280 --> 02:35:53,800
Speaker 1: they spend two billion dollars on him being that face,

3420
02:35:54,000 --> 02:35:57,720
Speaker 1: you don't stop being famed. The investments are you stop

3421
02:35:57,840 --> 02:36:01,080
Speaker 1: selling records? That's a that's that's that's a difference because

3422
02:36:01,920 --> 02:36:03,360
Speaker 1: there's no way you can sell the same amount of

3423
02:36:03,360 --> 02:36:05,080
Speaker 1: records independently that you can.

3424
02:36:06,600 --> 02:36:06,920
Speaker 2: Major.

3425
02:36:07,440 --> 02:36:10,959
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's impossible, but for the vast majority,

3426
02:36:11,080 --> 02:36:13,440
Speaker 1: you are always the biggest start when you're on the majors.

3427
02:36:13,440 --> 02:36:15,040
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, they.

3428
02:36:14,640 --> 02:36:16,280
Speaker 1: Have They have the budgets to put you in the

3429
02:36:16,320 --> 02:36:18,120
Speaker 1: four seasons, They have the budgets to fly you out

3430
02:36:18,200 --> 02:36:22,080
Speaker 1: to you know what I'm saying, uh uh by have

3431
02:36:22,160 --> 02:36:25,680
Speaker 1: the budget. So ironically, this says, in my opinion of

3432
02:36:26,160 --> 02:36:29,240
Speaker 1: a person who my first album I got jerk. So

3433
02:36:29,320 --> 02:36:31,800
Speaker 1: then I started to learn the business, and I started

3434
02:36:32,080 --> 02:36:34,000
Speaker 1: to learn I wanted to learn everything about it. Right,

3435
02:36:35,280 --> 02:36:38,160
Speaker 1: I have never seen anybody do what Drake is doing

3436
02:36:38,280 --> 02:36:40,440
Speaker 1: right now. Like I'm just I'm just being honest. He

3437
02:36:40,520 --> 02:36:43,680
Speaker 1: went against the establishment in a way where it's like

3438
02:36:44,080 --> 02:36:45,760
Speaker 1: some of some people that's why they called.

3439
02:36:45,640 --> 02:36:47,400
Speaker 2: Him a snitch. They're like, man, you're blowing it up.

3440
02:36:48,480 --> 02:36:51,680
Speaker 1: They're like, man, there's bots here and there's this ship

3441
02:36:52,240 --> 02:36:54,920
Speaker 1: that you know, might have worked with him when he

3442
02:36:55,160 --> 02:36:56,920
Speaker 1: was when he to say he's not on top right,

3443
02:36:57,480 --> 02:37:00,480
Speaker 1: might have worked for him. And it's like it's almost

3444
02:37:00,600 --> 02:37:04,560
Speaker 1: like it's almost like being with somebody and then it

3445
02:37:05,320 --> 02:37:06,920
Speaker 1: don't work, and you're blowing it up, like man, this

3446
02:37:07,040 --> 02:37:09,800
Speaker 1: is what they did when we were together, like almost

3447
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:13,840
Speaker 1: like that, but it's for himself. So he wants to

3448
02:37:13,920 --> 02:37:15,680
Speaker 1: be signed. Yeah, who wants to be signed to something

3449
02:37:15,720 --> 02:37:17,560
Speaker 1: if you can get out of it. So, like I

3450
02:37:17,600 --> 02:37:21,520
Speaker 1: said to reiterate that, I've never really seen what Drake

3451
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:24,080
Speaker 1: is doing. And I'm sitting around close everyone is like

3452
02:37:24,320 --> 02:37:25,879
Speaker 1: kind of like mad at him and judging him.

3453
02:37:26,080 --> 02:37:27,720
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, you know, we don't do that in

3454
02:37:27,760 --> 02:37:28,199
Speaker 2: the industry.

3455
02:37:28,240 --> 02:37:30,760
Speaker 1: And it's like, yeah, fuck up that balance and when

3456
02:37:30,760 --> 02:37:33,160
Speaker 1: they comes to go get go, get your family, Go

3457
02:37:33,280 --> 02:37:35,280
Speaker 1: get you know what I mean, Go get go, get

3458
02:37:35,320 --> 02:37:37,840
Speaker 1: that money, and go show that we ain't property.

3459
02:37:38,959 --> 02:37:40,000
Speaker 2: Like we ain't property.

3460
02:37:40,120 --> 02:37:45,040
Speaker 1: Like like like nobody's contracts say perpetuits you like that

3461
02:37:45,240 --> 02:37:47,760
Speaker 1: means like certain contracts. That means that you can.

3462
02:37:47,800 --> 02:37:50,160
Speaker 2: Die and still not get your publishing back.

3463
02:37:50,200 --> 02:37:52,760
Speaker 1: Certain contracts, you would die still not get your royalties back,

3464
02:37:53,000 --> 02:37:54,840
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Because they could say you didn't.

3465
02:37:54,640 --> 02:37:57,640
Speaker 2: Recoup right, and I suppose, let's suppose.

3466
02:37:57,680 --> 02:38:00,360
Speaker 1: Like something happens and you don't have a good team.

3467
02:38:00,440 --> 02:38:02,720
Speaker 1: You don't have a good squad that can say you

3468
02:38:03,400 --> 02:38:06,160
Speaker 1: let me, let me audit them so they can prove

3469
02:38:06,320 --> 02:38:08,120
Speaker 1: that I didn't. I didn't, I didn't pay a lot

3470
02:38:08,160 --> 02:38:09,680
Speaker 1: of people don't know how to do that, you know

3471
02:38:09,720 --> 02:38:10,000
Speaker 1: what I mean?

3472
02:38:10,320 --> 02:38:10,800
Speaker 4: Co did that?

3473
02:38:11,080 --> 02:38:14,160
Speaker 5: The era coming from a lot of Yeah, ever, come on, bro,

3474
02:38:14,440 --> 02:38:19,680
Speaker 5: like not the name names, but how many artists got royalties?

3475
02:38:20,120 --> 02:38:21,880
Speaker 5: Like people looking off for show money. You got off

3476
02:38:21,920 --> 02:38:26,520
Speaker 5: advanced money, you look off a sponsorship deals, whatever.

3477
02:38:26,360 --> 02:38:29,200
Speaker 1: But you're not living off of royalty. Always figure out

3478
02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:30,360
Speaker 1: your money.

3479
02:38:30,680 --> 02:38:32,080
Speaker 4: Let me tell you how I got out my record

3480
02:38:32,120 --> 02:38:35,000
Speaker 4: deal all right, I was with our C I signed.

3481
02:38:35,480 --> 02:38:38,200
Speaker 4: I got sixty thousand dollars. That was my advance. I

3482
02:38:38,320 --> 02:38:40,400
Speaker 4: used to make thirty nine thousand year as a teacher.

3483
02:38:40,520 --> 02:38:41,680
Speaker 4: So I was like, man, I'm boling.

3484
02:38:42,080 --> 02:38:43,959
Speaker 1: I got six one shot.

3485
02:38:44,160 --> 02:38:44,360
Speaker 4: Yeah.

3486
02:38:44,560 --> 02:38:46,960
Speaker 2: I didn't realize though, this is a full album deal,

3487
02:38:47,640 --> 02:38:48,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean?

3488
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:56,480
Speaker 4: So dang. So they lacking so so halfway through me

3489
02:38:56,640 --> 02:38:59,400
Speaker 4: recording my first album, I was like, bro, I want

3490
02:38:59,440 --> 02:39:01,800
Speaker 4: to get out this so bad. This felt like slavery.

3491
02:39:01,959 --> 02:39:06,000
Speaker 4: You know, first knew it even came and it felt

3492
02:39:06,000 --> 02:39:08,720
Speaker 4: like slavery. Right dang. So now they had a new

3493
02:39:08,840 --> 02:39:11,080
Speaker 4: general manager who came over to the label, right, so

3494
02:39:11,200 --> 02:39:13,200
Speaker 4: he was over my division of R c A. And

3495
02:39:13,320 --> 02:39:15,040
Speaker 4: dude didn't like me from day one. I could just

3496
02:39:15,080 --> 02:39:17,280
Speaker 4: feel the energy, the tension. He ain't like me. So

3497
02:39:17,360 --> 02:39:19,000
Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, I'm trying to get out this deal.

3498
02:39:19,440 --> 02:39:21,800
Speaker 4: And I didn't have a good squad, but I had

3499
02:39:21,840 --> 02:39:25,480
Speaker 4: a good God, let me explain. So I'm like, man,

3500
02:39:25,720 --> 02:39:28,400
Speaker 4: I gotta go on tour, right, I come out of pocket.

3501
02:39:28,480 --> 02:39:30,840
Speaker 4: I got tour support money built into my deal, but

3502
02:39:30,920 --> 02:39:32,600
Speaker 4: they take so long to get you your bread.

3503
02:39:32,800 --> 02:39:34,080
Speaker 2: And I was like, I'm just gonna front.

3504
02:39:33,959 --> 02:39:35,600
Speaker 4: The money for the tour, right, I was telling.

3505
02:39:38,040 --> 02:39:40,240
Speaker 2: Give me back, you heard me, just a sap, but

3506
02:39:40,320 --> 02:39:41,720
Speaker 2: it hit me back with my bread. Right.

3507
02:39:42,040 --> 02:39:45,200
Speaker 4: So the tour ends, I still ain't get my money back.

3508
02:39:45,320 --> 02:39:45,440
Speaker 1: Right.

3509
02:39:45,920 --> 02:39:47,600
Speaker 2: I meet a dude out of New York. Shout out

3510
02:39:47,640 --> 02:39:48,640
Speaker 2: to my man, Rob Love.

3511
02:39:48,840 --> 02:39:48,960
Speaker 1: Right.

3512
02:39:53,480 --> 02:39:56,440
Speaker 4: So Rob just randomly met me on the internet and

3513
02:39:56,520 --> 02:39:59,840
Speaker 4: wanted to start managing me. So I remember meeting with him.

3514
02:40:00,080 --> 02:40:03,000
Speaker 4: Good dude, cool dude, Like I like his vibe, I said, Brother,

3515
02:40:03,160 --> 02:40:06,040
Speaker 4: I said, this is the only issue though, I'm signed

3516
02:40:06,080 --> 02:40:06,720
Speaker 4: in the deal.

3517
02:40:06,680 --> 02:40:09,080
Speaker 2: Right now with RCA and the division.

3518
02:40:09,080 --> 02:40:09,760
Speaker 4: I'm signed to it.

3519
02:40:09,800 --> 02:40:11,279
Speaker 2: And the dude that's over that division.

3520
02:40:11,640 --> 02:40:14,800
Speaker 4: Man, this is trash. Bro Like, I'm in a horrible situation.

3521
02:40:14,920 --> 02:40:17,280
Speaker 4: You heard me, Like, I'm not even excited about being

3522
02:40:17,280 --> 02:40:19,760
Speaker 4: an artist no more. Right, So he was like, oh,

3523
02:40:19,800 --> 02:40:22,440
Speaker 4: who's over the division? So I told him the dude's name,

3524
02:40:22,440 --> 02:40:25,920
Speaker 4: who is the general manager? Rob busts out laughing on

3525
02:40:26,000 --> 02:40:29,360
Speaker 4: the phone. He said, man, that's my lell home man.

3526
02:40:29,400 --> 02:40:31,760
Speaker 4: He would saying intern for me when he was in college.

3527
02:40:32,480 --> 02:40:34,040
Speaker 2: He said, if you want to get out your deal,

3528
02:40:34,120 --> 02:40:35,080
Speaker 2: that's a phone call.

3529
02:40:35,640 --> 02:40:37,240
Speaker 4: So I said, well, look, I said, they owe me

3530
02:40:37,280 --> 02:40:39,160
Speaker 4: a lot of money too from my tour. You could

3531
02:40:39,160 --> 02:40:41,400
Speaker 4: get the money back, he said, let me see, So he.

3532
02:40:41,520 --> 02:40:42,280
Speaker 1: Called dude up.

3533
02:40:45,920 --> 02:40:48,360
Speaker 2: They had their talk. Rob called me right back.

3534
02:40:48,560 --> 02:40:51,240
Speaker 4: Hey, if you want to get out the deal, I

3535
02:40:51,280 --> 02:40:53,240
Speaker 4: could get you out in twenty four hours. Just say

3536
02:40:53,280 --> 02:40:55,200
Speaker 4: the word let's go. But if you want the money,

3537
02:40:55,840 --> 02:40:58,080
Speaker 4: they're not gonna let you go. If you want your

3538
02:40:58,160 --> 02:41:00,160
Speaker 4: recoup from your tour that you came out of out

3539
02:41:00,160 --> 02:41:01,640
Speaker 4: out of pocket for, they're not gonna let you go.

3540
02:41:02,320 --> 02:41:04,040
Speaker 4: I said, man, I forget that money. Let's get out

3541
02:41:04,080 --> 02:41:07,280
Speaker 4: that deal. Rob said, done, deal you out, and they

3542
02:41:07,320 --> 02:41:08,960
Speaker 4: sent me the paperwork over the next day.

3543
02:41:09,080 --> 02:41:09,480
Speaker 1: You heard me.

3544
02:41:10,080 --> 02:41:12,240
Speaker 4: So that right there, Bro, that let me know, Like,

3545
02:41:12,320 --> 02:41:14,920
Speaker 4: what's the odds that I would meet a dude who

3546
02:41:15,040 --> 02:41:16,920
Speaker 4: got the power to say, man, I could get you

3547
02:41:17,000 --> 02:41:19,240
Speaker 4: out your deal like this is easy in twenty four

3548
02:41:19,280 --> 02:41:21,360
Speaker 4: hours because the head of your label used to intern

3549
02:41:21,480 --> 02:41:21,640
Speaker 4: for me.

3550
02:41:21,720 --> 02:41:22,240
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

3551
02:41:22,320 --> 02:41:24,640
Speaker 4: That's how No God had his hand on my journey. Bro. Yeah,

3552
02:41:26,600 --> 02:41:39,160
Speaker 4: finish quick time flo Goodie mob or ghetto boys. I

3553
02:41:39,240 --> 02:41:43,000
Speaker 4: gotta go boat, Bro, I gotta go boat. That's yeah,

3554
02:41:43,120 --> 02:41:49,200
Speaker 4: Please tell yeah, let's take all this shot. Good in

3555
02:41:49,280 --> 02:41:52,200
Speaker 4: mine brought that soul to Atlanta. You heard me, Yeah,

3556
02:41:52,400 --> 02:41:55,160
Speaker 4: in a real way. That's soul food. That soul music

3557
02:41:55,400 --> 02:41:58,280
Speaker 4: like good in Mine definitely brought that. And you can't

3558
02:41:58,360 --> 02:42:01,320
Speaker 4: discredit the impact the domino effect that had on the

3559
02:42:01,360 --> 02:42:04,760
Speaker 4: rest of the hip hop scene, right ghetto boards for Houston,

3560
02:42:05,320 --> 02:42:09,440
Speaker 4: specifically WILLI D that's my brother, you know what I'm saying, man,

3561
02:42:09,840 --> 02:42:13,480
Speaker 4: them brothers, they brought soul to Houston to well, it's gritty,

3562
02:42:14,080 --> 02:42:15,520
Speaker 4: but at the same time, it was like, Yo, this

3563
02:42:15,640 --> 02:42:18,080
Speaker 4: got a message in it. This got us reflecting. And

3564
02:42:18,160 --> 02:42:20,040
Speaker 4: then you listen to scare Face and scare Face a

3565
02:42:20,080 --> 02:42:22,360
Speaker 4: head you and your feelings because it's like his lyrics

3566
02:42:22,440 --> 02:42:25,000
Speaker 4: right there got you thinking about your life, like hold on, man,

3567
02:42:25,000 --> 02:42:26,400
Speaker 4: I got to get it together, you know what I mean.

3568
02:42:26,879 --> 02:42:31,120
Speaker 4: So they did something for Houston and for Atlanta that

3569
02:42:31,320 --> 02:42:34,000
Speaker 4: I didn't feel like we had in New Orleans. You

3570
02:42:34,080 --> 02:42:36,320
Speaker 4: know what I mean, because I feel like in New Orleans, yeah,

3571
02:42:36,400 --> 02:42:40,080
Speaker 4: thank you baby. In New Orleans we had we had

3572
02:42:40,080 --> 02:42:44,320
Speaker 4: a lot of lyricists, we had a lot of aggressive music,

3573
02:42:44,480 --> 02:42:46,160
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. But in terms of that

3574
02:42:46,400 --> 02:42:49,080
Speaker 4: soul music that was mixed in with hip hop, I

3575
02:42:49,160 --> 02:42:51,440
Speaker 4: feel like, dang, we got like a gap right there,

3576
02:42:51,520 --> 02:42:53,320
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And I became I wanted

3577
02:42:53,360 --> 02:42:56,000
Speaker 4: to fill that gap when I became an artist. Okay,

3578
02:42:56,200 --> 02:43:03,480
Speaker 4: Kanye West or nas the Goat, So I'm going nass

3579
02:43:03,600 --> 02:43:04,000
Speaker 4: is the Goat?

3580
02:43:04,080 --> 02:43:04,200
Speaker 3: Bro?

3581
02:43:04,640 --> 02:43:07,759
Speaker 1: Yeah? The radio or podcast.

3582
02:43:09,120 --> 02:43:14,680
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty six, I'm listening to a podcast I

3583
02:43:15,280 --> 02:43:18,119
Speaker 4: didn't listen to and watch so many Drink Shamps episodes,

3584
02:43:18,760 --> 02:43:26,080
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, It makes this extra special, man. Okay,

3585
02:43:26,600 --> 02:43:29,560
Speaker 4: and I don't like Paola and with the radio, you know,

3586
02:43:30,720 --> 02:43:31,240
Speaker 4: is a real thing.

3587
02:43:31,560 --> 02:43:32,040
Speaker 1: I believe it.

3588
02:43:32,200 --> 02:43:33,640
Speaker 2: I believe it's gotten better.

3589
02:43:35,560 --> 02:43:38,400
Speaker 1: Because of the bots that you can you can know

3590
02:43:38,480 --> 02:43:42,840
Speaker 1: where the box is now you can know. And I believe,

3591
02:43:44,879 --> 02:43:47,200
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go go back into this, but I

3592
02:43:47,320 --> 02:43:51,360
Speaker 1: believe cities are starting to listen to the today local artists,

3593
02:43:51,800 --> 02:43:55,119
Speaker 1: like I believe that. I haven't been in New Orleans

3594
02:43:55,200 --> 02:43:57,480
Speaker 1: in a long time, but I believe there was one

3595
02:43:57,520 --> 02:43:58,800
Speaker 1: point where people were saying, man, we.

3596
02:43:58,840 --> 02:44:01,800
Speaker 2: Needed New Orleans, need to more like New Orleans.

3597
02:44:02,200 --> 02:44:06,760
Speaker 4: And I believe the pds actually listen listen to that.

3598
02:44:06,800 --> 02:44:08,960
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I can't tell, but Miami,

3599
02:44:10,040 --> 02:44:12,760
Speaker 1: Miami has listened to that, Like I don't know if

3600
02:44:12,840 --> 02:44:16,160
Speaker 1: Miami probably your own your city. But when I listen

3601
02:44:16,240 --> 02:44:19,760
Speaker 1: to Miami radio now I hear my sounds like Miami radio.

3602
02:44:19,800 --> 02:44:26,160
Speaker 1: So I'm proud. I'm probably we need a little world,

3603
02:44:27,640 --> 02:44:30,040
Speaker 1: We need a little it's been sounding better for flex.

3604
02:44:30,120 --> 02:44:32,800
Speaker 1: I respect you, I respect you stepping up. I respect

3605
02:44:32,840 --> 02:44:34,720
Speaker 1: him stepping up and saying, hey man, you know what,

3606
02:44:35,320 --> 02:44:37,840
Speaker 1: artists got other places they can go, but right now,

3607
02:44:37,920 --> 02:44:39,440
Speaker 1: we need to take care of our own city.

3608
02:44:39,760 --> 02:44:42,360
Speaker 4: And I love that, and I love that. I think

3609
02:44:42,400 --> 02:44:44,080
Speaker 4: Philadelphia is doing it.

3610
02:44:45,000 --> 02:44:49,160
Speaker 1: I believe Philadelphia stepped it up even after seeing the

3611
02:44:49,240 --> 02:44:50,120
Speaker 1: whole state property.

3612
02:44:50,200 --> 02:44:52,160
Speaker 2: Damn there come out with jay Z. You know what

3613
02:44:52,160 --> 02:44:53,240
Speaker 2: I'm saying, including P D.

3614
02:44:53,360 --> 02:44:53,560
Speaker 1: Crack.

3615
02:44:53,600 --> 02:44:55,560
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, I got to see p D.

3616
02:44:55,680 --> 02:45:01,119
Speaker 1: Crack and we got to see beans and Jays together freeway.

3617
02:45:00,760 --> 02:45:01,600
Speaker 2: And like you know that.

3618
02:45:02,280 --> 02:45:04,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, young Chris and the young girls and like,

3619
02:45:04,760 --> 02:45:07,280
Speaker 1: and I believe, like when I see cities like storry

3620
02:45:07,360 --> 02:45:08,680
Speaker 1: to do that, I kind of I kind of I

3621
02:45:08,760 --> 02:45:10,440
Speaker 1: kind of love that, like and so so when you

3622
02:45:10,480 --> 02:45:14,120
Speaker 1: said I'm the payola thing, that that that The reason

3623
02:45:14,160 --> 02:45:17,720
Speaker 1: why I'm answering that question is because if they're supporting

3624
02:45:17,800 --> 02:45:20,360
Speaker 1: the same cities that Payola can't exist because they got

3625
02:45:20,480 --> 02:45:22,080
Speaker 1: to support what's popping.

3626
02:45:21,879 --> 02:45:23,039
Speaker 4: In that actual city.

3627
02:45:23,360 --> 02:45:26,840
Speaker 1: So if you're listening to New York and you hear French,

3628
02:45:26,959 --> 02:45:30,840
Speaker 1: Montana and Max B and then you hear uh uh

3629
02:45:31,440 --> 02:45:34,520
Speaker 1: mom deep when you hear DMX, that means that Paola

3630
02:45:34,600 --> 02:45:35,080
Speaker 1: is not there.

3631
02:45:35,480 --> 02:45:38,640
Speaker 2: But now if you're here, you here fucking you know.

3632
02:45:39,480 --> 02:45:40,800
Speaker 1: Like sounds like another city.

3633
02:45:41,160 --> 02:45:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's so.

3634
02:45:44,200 --> 02:45:50,800
Speaker 1: Much global y K nice. Yeah you hear asktray Facing.

3635
02:45:50,640 --> 02:45:55,560
Speaker 4: Yeah that's from in New York, And it's like, wow, that's.

3636
02:45:55,520 --> 02:45:58,360
Speaker 1: The same thing, because you ain't gonna hear a New

3637
02:45:58,440 --> 02:46:01,520
Speaker 1: York artist on astray face. Dang. So So it's been guy,

3638
02:46:01,720 --> 02:46:05,000
Speaker 1: this guy as a person who knows this, it's gotten

3639
02:46:05,080 --> 02:46:07,720
Speaker 1: much better. And I'm talking about not just my city.

3640
02:46:08,080 --> 02:46:10,880
Speaker 1: I've seen it in orders. I've seen it step up

3641
02:46:10,920 --> 02:46:14,400
Speaker 1: where it's like and you know what, I'm sorry to

3642
02:46:14,440 --> 02:46:16,200
Speaker 1: be along with it. But there was a list that

3643
02:46:16,360 --> 02:46:18,360
Speaker 1: came out. I don't know if you remember, there was

3644
02:46:18,440 --> 02:46:20,600
Speaker 1: a list that came out of all DJs that was

3645
02:46:20,760 --> 02:46:26,920
Speaker 1: on that Payola list really has changed, motherfuckers. Was kind

3646
02:46:26,959 --> 02:46:30,119
Speaker 1: of embarrassed because I mean it was lists from from

3647
02:46:30,240 --> 02:46:32,880
Speaker 1: from from like all fourteen major cities.

3648
02:46:32,959 --> 02:46:34,120
Speaker 2: Really it was New York. First.

3649
02:46:34,400 --> 02:46:35,400
Speaker 1: I looked at the New York one.

3650
02:46:35,400 --> 02:46:36,600
Speaker 4: I was like, wait, you wait a minute.

3651
02:46:37,920 --> 02:46:45,400
Speaker 1: He was taking but I was like business. Yeah. So

3652
02:46:45,840 --> 02:46:50,000
Speaker 1: so to reiterate what I was trying to say, cities

3653
02:46:50,040 --> 02:46:53,040
Speaker 1: have stepped up because cities they're starting to have integrity,

3654
02:46:53,080 --> 02:46:54,600
Speaker 1: They're starting to have a category and say, and I'm

3655
02:46:54,600 --> 02:46:56,920
Speaker 1: not just gonna play, you know, ask tray Faced. I'm

3656
02:46:57,600 --> 02:47:00,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure we got we got uh uh

3657
02:47:01,840 --> 02:47:06,080
Speaker 1: Brooklyn playing in Brooklyn, you know what I mean, Calio

3658
02:47:07,959 --> 02:47:12,400
Speaker 1: playing on New Orleans. So I will give him that.

3659
02:47:12,920 --> 02:47:15,000
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit proud, proud of that big daddy

3660
02:47:15,080 --> 02:47:15,760
Speaker 1: kinge or jay Z.

3661
02:47:18,840 --> 02:47:20,600
Speaker 4: For my run with I grew up listening to it

3662
02:47:21,000 --> 02:47:24,400
Speaker 4: jay Z bro jay Z, I mean. And then just

3663
02:47:24,480 --> 02:47:27,120
Speaker 4: to see where he's taking it beyond just music, is

3664
02:47:27,200 --> 02:47:29,800
Speaker 4: that we continue to watch him evolve. And I'm enjoying

3665
02:47:29,800 --> 02:47:32,320
Speaker 4: the journey, you know, because because I feel like what

3666
02:47:32,480 --> 02:47:34,320
Speaker 4: he's doing and he knows it too.

3667
02:47:34,440 --> 02:47:35,440
Speaker 2: He knows he's chosen.

3668
02:47:35,600 --> 02:47:39,680
Speaker 4: So uh. He's very intentional about saying I can't stay still,

3669
02:47:40,000 --> 02:47:42,440
Speaker 4: you know, I gotta I gotta at least set the

3670
02:47:42,520 --> 02:47:44,840
Speaker 4: bar for other people to be able to come behind

3671
02:47:44,879 --> 02:47:47,920
Speaker 4: me and how you say that, Pauls there you go

3672
02:47:48,720 --> 02:47:51,520
Speaker 4: saying it's interesting, right.

3673
02:47:52,120 --> 02:47:54,520
Speaker 5: I think jay Z's, if not the greatest, definitely one

3674
02:47:54,560 --> 02:47:58,040
Speaker 5: of the greatest rappers MC's lyricists to ever do it,

3675
02:47:58,320 --> 02:48:01,120
Speaker 5: hands down right interesting.

3676
02:48:01,200 --> 02:48:04,680
Speaker 1: He calls himself Jehovah, though I don't.

3677
02:48:04,520 --> 02:48:07,240
Speaker 4: Call him whole. Yeah, I acknowledge him as jay Z.

3678
02:48:08,120 --> 02:48:10,760
Speaker 4: I understand that he's Sean Carter. I also understand that

3679
02:48:13,760 --> 02:48:18,640
Speaker 4: there's a lot of people who their persona became something

3680
02:48:18,720 --> 02:48:23,040
Speaker 4: that in their latter years they're probably like, damn, I

3681
02:48:23,160 --> 02:48:25,520
Speaker 4: wish I wasn't that anymore. The same as no Alwadys said.

3682
02:48:26,160 --> 02:48:28,600
Speaker 4: You know what, when I get on stage certain audiences,

3683
02:48:28,720 --> 02:48:31,840
Speaker 4: I don't want to perform and say every word that's

3684
02:48:31,879 --> 02:48:34,199
Speaker 4: inside of these songs in front of this type of people.

3685
02:48:34,200 --> 02:48:35,480
Speaker 4: I don't want to say the N word in front

3686
02:48:35,480 --> 02:48:38,240
Speaker 4: of white people. I truly believe they don't want to

3687
02:48:38,240 --> 02:48:39,880
Speaker 4: say that from the black people neither. But okay, I

3688
02:48:39,959 --> 02:48:43,880
Speaker 4: feel more out of place. Yeah at that point. So

3689
02:48:43,959 --> 02:48:48,879
Speaker 4: with that being said, uh, maybe I'm just unrealistically optimistic.

3690
02:48:49,120 --> 02:48:51,879
Speaker 4: You know, I see the best in people, right, maybe

3691
02:48:52,120 --> 02:48:54,240
Speaker 4: I see the problems with the world. But I see,

3692
02:48:54,560 --> 02:48:56,840
Speaker 4: I see the solutions in people, and I feel like

3693
02:48:56,959 --> 02:48:59,120
Speaker 4: jay Z is somebody who I feel like jay Z

3694
02:48:59,280 --> 02:49:02,920
Speaker 4: is somebody who doesn't think that he is the personification

3695
02:49:03,080 --> 02:49:03,520
Speaker 4: of God.

3696
02:49:05,400 --> 02:49:08,520
Speaker 1: I believe he got that frame from Rock him who

3697
02:49:08,560 --> 02:49:12,600
Speaker 1: called himself the God, not the God. He did call

3698
02:49:12,680 --> 02:49:14,520
Speaker 1: himself a god, but that's what he meant. And I

3699
02:49:15,160 --> 02:49:17,160
Speaker 1: wanted wanted to take.

3700
02:49:17,080 --> 02:49:21,520
Speaker 2: Something like that. Okay, uh Ben hold on, okay, uh

3701
02:49:23,280 --> 02:49:27,160
Speaker 2: m F Doom or Action Braston, Oh, I'm gonna let

3702
02:49:27,200 --> 02:49:28,000
Speaker 2: you answer this one.

3703
02:49:28,680 --> 02:49:31,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, m F Doom Doom. Yeah.

3704
02:49:32,160 --> 02:49:34,440
Speaker 2: I didn't realize how mysterious m F Doom was.

3705
02:49:34,640 --> 02:49:40,840
Speaker 5: It's crazy lyricists like part Excellence, rest in Peace. Yeah,

3706
02:49:40,920 --> 02:49:42,920
Speaker 5: and he's k M D.

3707
02:49:43,600 --> 02:49:46,040
Speaker 1: And we still we still don't like this is the

3708
02:49:46,080 --> 02:49:49,400
Speaker 1: realest ship. And I never want to notice answer. I

3709
02:49:49,680 --> 02:49:51,840
Speaker 1: never want to notice answer. I wanted this to be

3710
02:49:51,879 --> 02:49:53,959
Speaker 1: a mystery for the for the rest of my life.

3711
02:49:54,680 --> 02:49:57,360
Speaker 1: People used to say, if dud to do five shows

3712
02:49:57,360 --> 02:50:04,720
Speaker 1: and what I heard that, So just think about it

3713
02:50:04,879 --> 02:50:08,600
Speaker 1: like back then, and back then you could I don't

3714
02:50:08,640 --> 02:50:10,720
Speaker 1: want to say, manipulate the MIC's but there wasn't no

3715
02:50:10,840 --> 02:50:13,080
Speaker 1: auto tune, so it was just like if you mastered

3716
02:50:13,160 --> 02:50:16,560
Speaker 1: this man voice or if you had it as a

3717
02:50:16,800 --> 02:50:20,720
Speaker 1: TV track right where his actual vocals are on there,

3718
02:50:20,879 --> 02:50:23,039
Speaker 1: just a little bit right, because the MF. Doom comes

3719
02:50:23,040 --> 02:50:26,080
Speaker 1: from the real hip hop where we on our live

3720
02:50:26,680 --> 02:50:31,920
Speaker 1: and I always so one night I'm in Germany, due

3721
02:50:31,959 --> 02:50:33,920
Speaker 1: opens up the hotel. I don't know how we got

3722
02:50:33,959 --> 02:50:37,480
Speaker 1: this when he gave us the whole hotel and we

3723
02:50:37,560 --> 02:50:39,000
Speaker 1: were like what, like I had never.

3724
02:50:39,000 --> 02:50:41,000
Speaker 2: Had this boar, but it was it was catching there though,

3725
02:50:41,000 --> 02:50:41,600
Speaker 2: so it was weird.

3726
02:50:42,200 --> 02:50:45,120
Speaker 1: So and then he was like, yo, m F Doom

3727
02:50:45,600 --> 02:50:48,520
Speaker 1: just left here, and I was like, all right, cool,

3728
02:50:49,200 --> 02:50:53,959
Speaker 1: and then I go out and then they say MF

3729
02:50:54,040 --> 02:50:59,040
Speaker 1: Doom just left here. But by the way, I'm like,

3730
02:50:59,560 --> 02:51:02,840
Speaker 1: holy said you didn't. I'm missing a phone call. I'll

3731
02:51:02,879 --> 02:51:04,879
Speaker 1: go on Twitter whatever it was might have been place

3732
02:51:04,959 --> 02:51:09,000
Speaker 1: back then, and they like performed and I'm like, yo, U,

3733
02:51:09,640 --> 02:51:12,480
Speaker 1: how dope is this? If the rap game cheated you?

3734
02:51:13,280 --> 02:51:15,360
Speaker 1: How dope is it for you to cheat the rap game?

3735
02:51:15,920 --> 02:51:18,400
Speaker 2: And they not even know it though, just think about it.

3736
02:51:18,680 --> 02:51:21,520
Speaker 4: So when I heard this, I never want to confirm

3737
02:51:21,720 --> 02:51:22,080
Speaker 4: or they're not.

3738
02:51:27,720 --> 02:51:31,200
Speaker 1: That's the most genius you got to remember other than

3739
02:51:31,280 --> 02:51:33,360
Speaker 1: my space. Like I said back then there was no

3740
02:51:34,600 --> 02:51:37,400
Speaker 1: like right now, if you do a show, they will

3741
02:51:37,440 --> 02:51:40,240
Speaker 1: ask you you can't do a show in the next town.

3742
02:51:40,200 --> 02:51:45,560
Speaker 2: For two weeks or whatever. Think about it. That wasn't

3743
02:51:45,600 --> 02:51:46,480
Speaker 2: existing back then.

3744
02:51:46,720 --> 02:51:48,800
Speaker 1: They didn't even know that because they wouldn't even know

3745
02:51:48,920 --> 02:51:51,320
Speaker 1: if you left Duzu Dolf, Germany and you went to

3746
02:51:51,800 --> 02:51:54,360
Speaker 1: Hamburg or Frankfort. There's no way for them to know

3747
02:51:54,480 --> 02:51:57,040
Speaker 1: because the word of mouth didn't travel that fast, you

3748
02:51:57,040 --> 02:51:58,760
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So I'm looking like this is

3749
02:51:58,800 --> 02:52:01,960
Speaker 1: the most genius I've ever heard of, and I never

3750
02:52:02,120 --> 02:52:02,480
Speaker 1: want to know.

3751
02:52:02,560 --> 02:52:04,680
Speaker 4: The truth I wanted.

3752
02:52:06,000 --> 02:52:08,200
Speaker 1: Even if one of his friends or his family member

3753
02:52:08,280 --> 02:52:10,000
Speaker 1: hit me like, no, that's the room, I'm gonna be like,

3754
02:52:10,200 --> 02:52:16,920
Speaker 1: I'm still this is. This is dope. Okay, my bad, Okay,

3755
02:52:17,120 --> 02:52:21,040
Speaker 1: this is this is I got deep okay X clan

3756
02:52:21,320 --> 02:52:27,119
Speaker 1: and or brand Nubian. I'm going brand Nuby. Okay, Okay,

3757
02:52:28,040 --> 02:52:30,480
Speaker 1: we need brand newbian on here. We had larger mall

3758
02:52:30,600 --> 02:52:40,280
Speaker 1: and the doc you grand grandpop, yes, sir, okay uh.

3759
02:52:40,840 --> 02:52:46,280
Speaker 1: I like this too, Malcolm or Martin boat Yeah? Both yeah,

3760
02:52:46,800 --> 02:52:48,920
Speaker 1: two sides of the same coun like when I said

3761
02:52:48,959 --> 02:52:51,120
Speaker 1: we needed both, Like when you you said you need

3762
02:52:51,200 --> 02:52:52,640
Speaker 1: it both. When I threw it another thing, I think

3763
02:52:52,720 --> 02:52:55,080
Speaker 1: we need. We needed Malcolm and Martin. I think, yeah,

3764
02:52:55,360 --> 02:52:58,400
Speaker 1: absolutely we need And I heard somebody else say this,

3765
02:53:00,480 --> 02:53:04,640
Speaker 1: But I believe in the lot of years Malcolm was

3766
02:53:04,720 --> 02:53:07,440
Speaker 1: becoming more and Martin, and Martin was becoming more about

3767
02:53:09,160 --> 02:53:12,440
Speaker 1: like real Foo believe you're absolutely right. But I believe

3768
02:53:12,520 --> 02:53:17,959
Speaker 1: Marlin became tired of switching. This came disillusion with the whole.

3769
02:53:18,440 --> 02:53:20,720
Speaker 5: I have a dream and he was like, where's our reparations,

3770
02:53:21,200 --> 02:53:21,960
Speaker 5: where's our check?

3771
02:53:22,200 --> 02:53:25,560
Speaker 1: Right? And remember after I love this part of the

3772
02:53:25,640 --> 02:53:29,760
Speaker 1: movie because I feel like whoever you praise, I feel

3773
02:53:29,800 --> 02:53:31,760
Speaker 1: like it has no religion if you're down with guard

3774
02:53:31,840 --> 02:53:36,320
Speaker 1: and went Malcolm. Malcolm seat white Muslims and Asian Muslims

3775
02:53:36,360 --> 02:53:38,200
Speaker 1: in the Holy City of Mecca, and he.

3776
02:53:38,280 --> 02:53:39,680
Speaker 2: Changed his ideology.

3777
02:53:40,160 --> 02:53:42,400
Speaker 1: And I don't believe he got soft for I believe

3778
02:53:42,560 --> 02:53:45,520
Speaker 1: he got he got he got brought on a light.

3779
02:53:46,200 --> 02:53:47,800
Speaker 1: It was dangerous, you know, it was one of the.

3780
02:53:47,840 --> 02:53:49,879
Speaker 2: Worst people in the hood.

3781
02:53:50,640 --> 02:53:53,920
Speaker 1: That that will probably never change, is that one dude

3782
02:53:53,959 --> 02:53:57,000
Speaker 1: that never left the hood. For all you need to

3783
02:53:57,080 --> 02:54:00,240
Speaker 1: take him is to write down the block and him

3784
02:54:00,280 --> 02:54:01,880
Speaker 1: see someone and something else.

3785
02:54:01,920 --> 02:54:02,880
Speaker 2: It's not his fault.

3786
02:54:03,360 --> 02:54:05,760
Speaker 1: This is all he knows. He knows this one block radius.

3787
02:54:06,120 --> 02:54:08,840
Speaker 1: And that guy is always miserable. He's the guy from

3788
02:54:08,959 --> 02:54:10,960
Speaker 1: from that goes to the beach with templans on.

3789
02:54:11,320 --> 02:54:12,800
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, yo, bro, you can

3790
02:54:12,879 --> 02:54:14,039
Speaker 2: take the timbs off man.

3791
02:54:15,040 --> 02:54:15,200
Speaker 4: Yeah.

3792
02:54:16,320 --> 02:54:22,360
Speaker 1: Like so I believe that when Malcolm I love the rape,

3793
02:54:22,400 --> 02:54:26,600
Speaker 1: but not that I believe his mind became like so much.

3794
02:54:26,879 --> 02:54:30,800
Speaker 1: And I read uh the autobiography of Malcolm Alice Helly

3795
02:54:31,320 --> 02:54:34,440
Speaker 1: and and and and and when I was locked up,

3796
02:54:34,840 --> 02:54:37,879
Speaker 1: But it means so much more to me now because

3797
02:54:37,959 --> 02:54:41,039
Speaker 1: I realized like how smart he was and how much

3798
02:54:41,520 --> 02:54:42,480
Speaker 1: he was leaning.

3799
02:54:42,280 --> 02:54:45,800
Speaker 2: Towards you know, U, the victory of our people.

3800
02:54:45,879 --> 02:54:49,560
Speaker 1: And then, like I said, Malcolm Martin, Martin felt like

3801
02:54:50,000 --> 02:54:51,960
Speaker 1: he was he was done turning the other cheek at

3802
02:54:52,280 --> 02:54:53,160
Speaker 1: like the end, towards it.

3803
02:54:53,840 --> 02:54:56,760
Speaker 4: And so yeah, we need both iron sharp as iron, bro,

3804
02:54:57,240 --> 02:54:59,280
Speaker 4: iron sharp as iron. So when you're around people that

3805
02:54:59,320 --> 02:55:02,240
Speaker 4: can broaden your respective but can still I'm not trying

3806
02:55:02,240 --> 02:55:04,720
Speaker 4: to change you from the core of who you are.

3807
02:55:05,000 --> 02:55:06,640
Speaker 4: I'm just trying to help you be a better version

3808
02:55:06,680 --> 02:55:08,959
Speaker 4: of that. You know, And sometimes when you observe greatness

3809
02:55:09,000 --> 02:55:10,400
Speaker 4: and other people they don't even.

3810
02:55:10,280 --> 02:55:11,080
Speaker 1: Have to tell you nothing.

3811
02:55:11,320 --> 02:55:12,760
Speaker 4: You can just look at them and be like, oh,

3812
02:55:12,760 --> 02:55:14,840
Speaker 4: I want to incorporate some of that actually into what

3813
02:55:14,920 --> 02:55:15,120
Speaker 4: I do.

3814
02:55:15,280 --> 02:55:18,160
Speaker 1: You ever seen that documentary where I believe it was

3815
02:55:18,640 --> 02:55:20,240
Speaker 1: what's the Boxer Halle?

3816
02:55:21,520 --> 02:55:26,720
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, One Night in Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

3817
02:55:29,120 --> 02:55:31,320
Speaker 4: I don't know if that hotel exists still.

3818
02:55:31,920 --> 02:55:33,720
Speaker 1: I think it's still there. I think it's still there.

3819
02:55:33,720 --> 02:55:34,240
Speaker 1: I'm not sure.

3820
02:55:34,320 --> 02:55:37,480
Speaker 2: I think it's something. Okay, that's what it is. Now

3821
02:55:38,000 --> 02:55:41,800
Speaker 2: it's always as the Hampton and okay then okay, but.

3822
02:55:44,080 --> 02:55:46,720
Speaker 1: All of us at some point got to go to

3823
02:55:46,800 --> 02:55:49,600
Speaker 1: that hotel and pay homage because that was that was

3824
02:55:49,680 --> 02:55:56,440
Speaker 1: the only hotel excepted what's the name Frank Sinatra integrated

3825
02:55:56,480 --> 02:55:56,760
Speaker 1: the Beach.

3826
02:55:56,840 --> 02:55:57,760
Speaker 2: Yes, Frank Sinatra.

3827
02:55:58,160 --> 02:56:01,320
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't know this. Frank Sinatra invited like them

3828
02:56:01,400 --> 02:56:06,320
Speaker 1: to his show and they were like, we can't go.

3829
02:56:06,560 --> 02:56:09,080
Speaker 1: And it was like wow, He's like black people not allowed.

3830
02:56:09,440 --> 02:56:12,640
Speaker 1: So Frank Sinatra, you know, I'm not quoting the work.

3831
02:56:13,080 --> 02:56:15,800
Speaker 1: He was like, Yo, if my black friends can't come,

3832
02:56:16,280 --> 02:56:19,320
Speaker 1: then I'm not doing the show. And not only that,

3833
02:56:19,720 --> 02:56:22,200
Speaker 1: I want you to lift this ship. So whatever it is,

3834
02:56:22,440 --> 02:56:27,039
Speaker 1: that whatever club that was, they lifted that black people

3835
02:56:27,480 --> 02:56:29,400
Speaker 1: can go because it was just standard. I don't think

3836
02:56:29,440 --> 02:56:31,600
Speaker 1: this club was particularly racist. I believe it was just

3837
02:56:31,640 --> 02:56:35,440
Speaker 1: standard of Miami Beach. And then Frank went to their

3838
02:56:35,520 --> 02:56:37,760
Speaker 1: hotel hung with them like this, this is this is

3839
02:56:37,879 --> 02:56:39,680
Speaker 1: like some dope ship. I didn't even realize how how

3840
02:56:39,760 --> 02:56:40,720
Speaker 1: much Frank was down.

3841
02:56:40,640 --> 02:56:41,879
Speaker 2: With it down.

3842
02:56:42,200 --> 02:56:44,920
Speaker 1: I liked his music, but I didn't like him and Jones.

3843
02:56:46,600 --> 02:56:55,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, so yeah, all right, yeah, y'all bunked

3844
02:56:55,320 --> 02:56:55,920
Speaker 1: out with this one.

3845
02:56:56,520 --> 02:57:00,680
Speaker 2: Bob, Bob Malli or John Lennon, Man, give me buy

3846
02:57:00,840 --> 02:57:01,360
Speaker 2: money man?

3847
02:57:02,000 --> 02:57:05,000
Speaker 4: Oh me? You know what?

3848
02:57:05,160 --> 02:57:05,440
Speaker 1: You know what?

3849
02:57:05,600 --> 02:57:07,360
Speaker 2: You know what I was going to say to see

3850
02:57:07,360 --> 02:57:07,800
Speaker 2: you earlier.

3851
02:57:10,440 --> 02:57:14,520
Speaker 1: There's one lyric about Bob that he says, and it

3852
02:57:14,640 --> 02:57:17,320
Speaker 1: bugs me out how fast he was. He said, how

3853
02:57:17,360 --> 02:57:20,240
Speaker 1: long are we going to sit around and kill our

3854
02:57:20,440 --> 02:57:22,000
Speaker 1: legends our profits?

3855
02:57:22,040 --> 02:57:22,440
Speaker 2: Excuse me?

3856
02:57:22,480 --> 02:57:23,760
Speaker 1: He said, how long are we going to sit around

3857
02:57:23,800 --> 02:57:26,040
Speaker 1: and kill our profits while we do nothing?

3858
02:57:27,600 --> 02:57:27,760
Speaker 4: Yo?

3859
02:57:28,000 --> 02:57:29,640
Speaker 2: What year did he say that?

3860
02:57:30,200 --> 02:57:30,320
Speaker 1: You know?

3861
02:57:30,400 --> 02:57:30,640
Speaker 4: I was?

3862
02:57:30,720 --> 02:57:32,240
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, because I don't know what.

3863
02:57:32,320 --> 02:57:34,400
Speaker 1: We're bugged out. We listened to soft music when we

3864
02:57:34,480 --> 02:57:36,959
Speaker 1: work out. We don't listen to no hip hop at

3865
02:57:38,240 --> 02:57:41,280
Speaker 1: very seldomly we listened. We listened to Bob Bali. We

3866
02:57:41,400 --> 02:57:45,840
Speaker 1: listened to like like Richie, we listened to you know

3867
02:57:46,000 --> 02:57:49,360
Speaker 1: we boys.

3868
02:57:49,440 --> 02:57:52,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I always lyrics always hits me. He's like, yo,

3869
02:57:53,160 --> 02:57:54,240
Speaker 4: he told us from.

3870
02:57:54,080 --> 02:57:56,720
Speaker 1: Back then, we wasn't stepping up and holding off. What

3871
02:57:56,840 --> 02:58:00,280
Speaker 1: did he say? Not legends? What he said proper our

3872
02:58:00,360 --> 02:58:03,320
Speaker 1: proper he said while we're standing around and look, and

3873
02:58:03,440 --> 02:58:06,520
Speaker 1: that lyric has never dumb down to me, like it

3874
02:58:06,640 --> 02:58:10,160
Speaker 1: has never like gave me chills, because how can his

3875
02:58:10,360 --> 02:58:14,320
Speaker 1: message back then still beside to now relevant right now?

3876
02:58:14,400 --> 02:58:16,879
Speaker 1: It's got to be thirty six years it's.

3877
02:58:16,760 --> 02:58:24,320
Speaker 7: Gotta be like, yeah, sixty years ago, fifty years six seven. Yeah,

3878
02:58:24,400 --> 02:58:26,800
Speaker 7: you said, but most of his ship is relevant.

3879
02:58:26,800 --> 02:58:27,959
Speaker 1: It's just it's just.

3880
02:58:30,040 --> 02:58:30,840
Speaker 2: Timeless music.

3881
02:58:30,879 --> 02:58:34,879
Speaker 1: Bro okay, ready to die or Illmatic, ill madic Okay, yeah,

3882
02:58:35,000 --> 02:58:40,120
Speaker 1: I madic okay, self destruction or all in the same

3883
02:58:40,200 --> 02:58:45,600
Speaker 1: game self destruction Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I like something. Yeah, okay,

3884
02:58:46,760 --> 02:58:50,680
Speaker 1: this good one comment or black thought and you got

3885
02:58:50,720 --> 02:58:51,560
Speaker 1: stories of either one.

3886
02:58:52,680 --> 02:58:56,400
Speaker 4: I got stories with both of them. Man coming is

3887
02:58:56,480 --> 02:58:59,360
Speaker 4: somebody who I've just seen him in passing. We've never

3888
02:58:59,440 --> 02:59:02,840
Speaker 4: had like a serious heart to heart talk, but I

3889
02:59:02,879 --> 02:59:05,320
Speaker 4: don't always need a heart to hard talk to still

3890
02:59:05,360 --> 02:59:08,080
Speaker 4: admire somebody's work, you know what I mean. And I've

3891
02:59:08,120 --> 02:59:11,560
Speaker 4: seen seen com and be consistent throughout the years since

3892
02:59:11,600 --> 02:59:13,880
Speaker 4: I was a little kid man and just always being

3893
02:59:14,320 --> 02:59:17,080
Speaker 4: a dude that's lyrical, but a dude that seemed comfortable

3894
02:59:17,120 --> 02:59:20,039
Speaker 4: in his own skin, you know, like it don't ever

3895
02:59:20,120 --> 02:59:22,480
Speaker 4: seem like he was. He definitely wasn't a punk because

3896
02:59:22,520 --> 02:59:24,680
Speaker 4: he wasn't afraid to go at ice Cube.

3897
02:59:24,680 --> 02:59:26,080
Speaker 1: When I want to say that, I want to say

3898
02:59:26,560 --> 02:59:29,080
Speaker 1: he has as you have a lot of pause. You

3899
02:59:29,160 --> 02:59:31,520
Speaker 1: haven't heard how they say you have a lot of

3900
02:59:31,560 --> 02:59:34,160
Speaker 1: common in you because you're know him for being a

3901
02:59:34,240 --> 02:59:35,480
Speaker 1: causcious rapper, but you know him for.

3902
02:59:35,520 --> 02:59:37,440
Speaker 4: Not back at that, right, So so I respect that

3903
02:59:37,480 --> 02:59:41,480
Speaker 4: about common and that Black Thought man, I mean literally,

3904
02:59:41,640 --> 02:59:44,840
Speaker 4: on one hand, you know he's up there when it

3905
02:59:44,920 --> 02:59:49,280
Speaker 4: comes to greatest lyricists on this planet right now, you

3906
02:59:49,360 --> 02:59:51,640
Speaker 4: know Black Thought is there and I met him before,

3907
02:59:51,680 --> 02:59:54,200
Speaker 4: and when I met him, it's just, man, you just

3908
02:59:54,280 --> 02:59:56,840
Speaker 4: be surprised, bro, who's watching you from a distance. And

3909
02:59:56,920 --> 02:59:59,080
Speaker 4: I was totally shocked when Black Daught is telling me

3910
02:59:59,160 --> 03:00:02,800
Speaker 4: he with me and he's and he a fan. I'll

3911
03:00:02,840 --> 03:00:03,279
Speaker 4: be shocked.

3912
03:00:03,360 --> 03:00:03,560
Speaker 2: Brother.

3913
03:00:03,920 --> 03:00:05,879
Speaker 1: You know this is a good one.

3914
03:00:06,480 --> 03:00:09,160
Speaker 2: Uh, Marcus Godfrey or Helly Selassie.

3915
03:00:09,959 --> 03:00:13,320
Speaker 4: Oh give me Marcus Garvey. Okay, yeah, give me. Yeah,

3916
03:00:13,520 --> 03:00:16,200
Speaker 4: I feel like Marcus Garvey. I just relate to him

3917
03:00:16,240 --> 03:00:18,440
Speaker 4: and I learned more about him as a kid, you

3918
03:00:18,480 --> 03:00:20,000
Speaker 4: know what I mean. So as a kid, he was

3919
03:00:20,080 --> 03:00:21,960
Speaker 4: on that list with that Turner, he was on that

3920
03:00:22,080 --> 03:00:23,440
Speaker 4: list with Harriet Tubman.

3921
03:00:23,560 --> 03:00:26,440
Speaker 1: Yeah you feel me, didn't he makes the black, red

3922
03:00:26,520 --> 03:00:27,800
Speaker 1: and green flag wasn't there.

3923
03:00:30,200 --> 03:00:34,240
Speaker 4: So for me, Holly Selassie, it became something where as

3924
03:00:34,280 --> 03:00:38,000
Speaker 4: I'm learning about by Marley Moore, I was more interested

3925
03:00:38,120 --> 03:00:39,840
Speaker 4: by Morley first you know what I'm saying, and then

3926
03:00:39,879 --> 03:00:42,680
Speaker 4: you you, okay, this will buy. Marley gets this from

3927
03:00:42,800 --> 03:00:45,840
Speaker 4: or was into. So that was my introduction. I never

3928
03:00:45,879 --> 03:00:48,440
Speaker 4: did a deep dive with Holly Celassie. Plus, you know,

3929
03:00:48,600 --> 03:00:52,000
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, I'm proud. You know,

3930
03:00:52,160 --> 03:00:54,000
Speaker 4: I'm a Christian. So at the end of the day,

3931
03:00:54,040 --> 03:00:56,800
Speaker 4: I respect all the fates and all the religions, but

3932
03:00:57,080 --> 03:00:57,680
Speaker 4: I'm Jesus.

3933
03:00:57,800 --> 03:01:01,360
Speaker 1: You know that they say Stlasting was the only person

3934
03:01:01,440 --> 03:01:04,240
Speaker 1: that they now I don't know if they're still exists

3935
03:01:04,440 --> 03:01:06,560
Speaker 1: in the algorithms, but they said that Hellly Celastie was

3936
03:01:06,560 --> 03:01:09,599
Speaker 1: the only person they could prove a bloodline to Jesus.

3937
03:01:14,640 --> 03:01:21,879
Speaker 8: Not Jesus, not Jesus. Man, sure Jesus, that's Solomon.

3938
03:01:21,600 --> 03:01:25,240
Speaker 1: Ok okay, Yeah, but they actually traced it whatever they

3939
03:01:25,280 --> 03:01:28,280
Speaker 1: said that which Jesus is supposed to be in the

3940
03:01:28,320 --> 03:01:31,320
Speaker 1: blood line of David. He was the son of Solomon, so.

3941
03:01:33,879 --> 03:01:34,080
Speaker 4: Cool.

3942
03:01:34,200 --> 03:01:38,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's why helly Celastians were But.

3943
03:01:39,040 --> 03:01:43,800
Speaker 5: They traced their lineage back to Queen Sheba who was

3944
03:01:43,879 --> 03:01:46,520
Speaker 5: married Mindel was her son and then that was the

3945
03:01:46,560 --> 03:01:48,040
Speaker 5: offspring of Yeah.

3946
03:01:48,080 --> 03:01:54,080
Speaker 4: I love these bro, brose you you you would.

3947
03:01:54,480 --> 03:01:57,200
Speaker 1: Vic Bakers arguing like we know Jesus was black, was like.

3948
03:01:57,240 --> 03:02:02,080
Speaker 2: But they they are. They showed the pictures of him

3949
03:02:02,080 --> 03:02:02,480
Speaker 2: being white.

3950
03:02:02,520 --> 03:02:03,960
Speaker 4: So that's why I was like, do you know this,

3951
03:02:04,200 --> 03:02:06,880
Speaker 4: Like like yeah, man, no, I mean that's propaganda, the

3952
03:02:06,920 --> 03:02:07,800
Speaker 4: state that Jesus was white.

3953
03:02:07,800 --> 03:02:11,000
Speaker 1: By the way, Solomon was David's son. Was David.

3954
03:02:12,400 --> 03:02:16,119
Speaker 4: Was David's son. Yeah, bro, I wish black people would

3955
03:02:16,160 --> 03:02:20,400
Speaker 4: stop getting caught up with man, because I seen a

3956
03:02:20,520 --> 03:02:23,320
Speaker 4: wild picture of white Jesus with blue eyes. That means

3957
03:02:23,480 --> 03:02:27,760
Speaker 4: Christianity is just fate. It's like, no, bro, in history,

3958
03:02:27,920 --> 03:02:30,200
Speaker 4: we see time and time again people will try to

3959
03:02:30,400 --> 03:02:34,440
Speaker 4: distort something for their own selfish purposes. Right, So what

3960
03:02:34,600 --> 03:02:37,200
Speaker 4: we see in hip hop today, we know that that

3961
03:02:37,320 --> 03:02:40,160
Speaker 4: ain't what the forefathers of hip hop meant for it

3962
03:02:40,240 --> 03:02:41,959
Speaker 4: to be when they was in the Bronx and when

3963
03:02:41,959 --> 03:02:44,000
Speaker 4: they was coming up with it. We see that, but

3964
03:02:44,080 --> 03:02:46,160
Speaker 4: we don't say, man, I'm done with hip hop altogether.

3965
03:02:46,440 --> 03:02:48,680
Speaker 4: We just say that's not the best representation of hip hop.

3966
03:02:48,720 --> 03:02:49,720
Speaker 1: Thank you. Well, I'll tell you this.

3967
03:02:50,760 --> 03:02:51,320
Speaker 2: I'll tell you this.

3968
03:02:51,480 --> 03:02:58,360
Speaker 1: This is the reason why we adapt to Christianity. But

3969
03:02:59,040 --> 03:03:02,160
Speaker 1: it's like it's like a uh, we were on the

3970
03:03:02,240 --> 03:03:05,120
Speaker 1: fence too, and I explained to you why. It's a

3971
03:03:05,200 --> 03:03:07,520
Speaker 1: movie called Roots, And I don't know how true Roots is.

3972
03:03:07,680 --> 03:03:10,760
Speaker 1: I know that it's based on Yes, I know it's

3973
03:03:10,800 --> 03:03:13,200
Speaker 1: based on the truth. But it's a part in Roots

3974
03:03:13,600 --> 03:03:17,160
Speaker 1: where they're coming on the boat and they're they're they're

3975
03:03:17,200 --> 03:03:20,359
Speaker 1: calling to each other they Muslim names or they're they're.

3976
03:03:21,600 --> 03:03:22,280
Speaker 2: Native names.

3977
03:03:22,360 --> 03:03:25,520
Speaker 1: And then and you could tell like how they were

3978
03:03:25,560 --> 03:03:27,440
Speaker 1: talking that they were like saying that there was Muslim

3979
03:03:27,600 --> 03:03:29,720
Speaker 1: and then and then in that movie, the first time

3980
03:03:29,840 --> 03:03:33,640
Speaker 1: you actually see Christianity introduced is a white man, you

3981
03:03:33,680 --> 03:03:35,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So that's the reason why, Like

3982
03:03:35,520 --> 03:03:38,680
Speaker 1: you know us again us we just touching on this earlier.

3983
03:03:38,720 --> 03:03:40,400
Speaker 1: We don't. We can't look at a movie and say

3984
03:03:41,120 --> 03:03:46,439
Speaker 1: that's just a movie, especially if it resonates.

3985
03:03:46,000 --> 03:03:47,760
Speaker 4: To you like and you you can relate to it.

3986
03:03:47,840 --> 03:03:50,400
Speaker 1: So a lot of people they automatically they don't know

3987
03:03:50,520 --> 03:03:52,840
Speaker 1: that Christians was in Africa and they don't know they

3988
03:03:52,879 --> 03:03:55,080
Speaker 1: bro show me in the Bible where Jesus ever went

3989
03:03:55,120 --> 03:03:55,640
Speaker 1: to Europe?

3990
03:03:56,080 --> 03:03:58,959
Speaker 4: Right now? One time did it talk about Jesus going

3991
03:03:58,959 --> 03:04:01,120
Speaker 4: to Europe and that's where the white people was?

3992
03:04:04,720 --> 03:04:05,880
Speaker 2: I didn't know where he was going with it? You

3993
03:04:05,959 --> 03:04:07,760
Speaker 2: made you landed that point a lot?

3994
03:04:07,840 --> 03:04:07,960
Speaker 1: Good?

3995
03:04:08,560 --> 03:04:13,080
Speaker 2: Cool, Okay, this is good one fire car or Clariss thirteen.

3996
03:04:13,120 --> 03:04:13,280
Speaker 1: Next.

3997
03:04:15,680 --> 03:04:18,880
Speaker 4: I've personally spent time building with Minister Phara Khan and

3998
03:04:19,760 --> 03:04:22,720
Speaker 4: have a lot of respect for that brother. I appreciate

3999
03:04:22,800 --> 03:04:26,039
Speaker 4: how he's poured into me and other hip hop artists,

4000
03:04:26,080 --> 03:04:29,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. And I was shocked, honestly

4001
03:04:29,400 --> 03:04:32,760
Speaker 4: to see and to understand the last time I heard

4002
03:04:32,800 --> 03:04:35,080
Speaker 4: him speak, I believe he was eighty nine years old

4003
03:04:35,400 --> 03:04:39,880
Speaker 4: and he spoke for three hours with no paper, no pad,

4004
03:04:40,080 --> 03:04:42,600
Speaker 4: no cell phone in front of him. Didn't start now

4005
03:04:42,800 --> 03:04:46,560
Speaker 4: one time and I'm just looking around, like, is this

4006
03:04:46,959 --> 03:04:50,840
Speaker 4: really happening right now? Articulate, passionate, bold, you know what

4007
03:04:50,879 --> 03:04:54,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And Yeah, that brother has told me how

4008
03:04:54,640 --> 03:04:56,760
Speaker 4: much of a supporter of my journey he is because

4009
03:04:56,760 --> 03:04:59,440
Speaker 4: he's seen it from people that are close to him,

4010
03:04:59,720 --> 03:05:01,920
Speaker 4: and I guess he took a personal interest in, like, Wow,

4011
03:05:02,200 --> 03:05:04,440
Speaker 4: this is one of those shining lights in an industry

4012
03:05:04,440 --> 03:05:06,520
Speaker 4: where it is needed. And people try to divide us.

4013
03:05:06,760 --> 03:05:09,360
Speaker 4: They try to divide Muslims and Christians, they try to

4014
03:05:09,400 --> 03:05:12,480
Speaker 4: divide nation of Islam, right, Yeah, they even try to say, oh,

4015
03:05:12,959 --> 03:05:16,520
Speaker 4: he bridged real lights, and they want us black people,

4016
03:05:16,879 --> 03:05:19,240
Speaker 4: They want us to be going against each other and

4017
03:05:19,600 --> 03:05:22,040
Speaker 4: like five percent of the oh, so y'all just we

4018
03:05:22,160 --> 03:05:25,480
Speaker 4: want to see y'all argue and debate rather than the

4019
03:05:25,640 --> 03:05:28,120
Speaker 4: eighty or ninety percent of stuff that we agree on.

4020
03:05:28,680 --> 03:05:31,640
Speaker 4: Right then, and saying like there's so much commonalities we have,

4021
03:05:31,959 --> 03:05:33,000
Speaker 4: let's build on those.

4022
03:05:33,280 --> 03:05:34,680
Speaker 1: Let me exude the love of Jesus.

4023
03:05:34,800 --> 03:05:35,160
Speaker 4: You heard me.

4024
03:05:35,400 --> 03:05:37,320
Speaker 2: Let you exulde the love of who it is.

4025
03:05:37,360 --> 03:05:39,360
Speaker 4: That you worship and look up to. But as a

4026
03:05:39,400 --> 03:05:41,720
Speaker 4: follow up, Christ, I gotta love you regardless of what

4027
03:05:41,920 --> 03:05:44,200
Speaker 4: you are. You know what I'm saying, but as a community,

4028
03:05:44,240 --> 03:05:46,160
Speaker 4: we could be so much better if we chose to

4029
03:05:46,200 --> 03:05:49,440
Speaker 4: build on our commonalities. So when I say man Minister Farakhin,

4030
03:05:49,520 --> 03:05:52,119
Speaker 4: in my relationship with him and other Muslims and people

4031
03:05:52,160 --> 03:05:54,720
Speaker 4: in the NI, it's like brother, That's something that I'm

4032
03:05:54,800 --> 03:05:57,160
Speaker 4: proud to say that I'm a person that's trying to

4033
03:05:57,200 --> 03:06:00,200
Speaker 4: build bridges instead of just putting walls up. And I

4034
03:06:00,240 --> 03:06:03,600
Speaker 4: can still build that bridge while standing on without stand on.

4035
03:06:03,800 --> 03:06:06,400
Speaker 4: Nobody in this world don't doubt if d one is

4036
03:06:06,400 --> 03:06:08,240
Speaker 4: a follower up Christ, you know what I'm saying. But

4037
03:06:08,480 --> 03:06:10,120
Speaker 4: I could deal with people that's not like me, and

4038
03:06:10,200 --> 03:06:12,720
Speaker 4: I just think that's something that our community needs.

4039
03:06:12,920 --> 03:06:17,800
Speaker 1: Absolutely, Absolutely, let's get free or fear of a fear

4040
03:06:17,800 --> 03:06:25,480
Speaker 1: of a black planet give me?

4041
03:06:26,320 --> 03:06:30,199
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm only gonna say this because I feel

4042
03:06:30,240 --> 03:06:32,880
Speaker 4: like one helped pave the way for the other. So

4043
03:06:32,959 --> 03:06:36,080
Speaker 4: we're gonna go fill with black planet. Yeah, because shout

4044
03:06:36,120 --> 03:06:38,240
Speaker 4: out to let's get free. But I feel like one

4045
03:06:38,320 --> 03:06:39,200
Speaker 4: paved the way for the other.

4046
03:06:39,280 --> 03:06:39,760
Speaker 1: Absolutely?

4047
03:06:40,800 --> 03:06:43,360
Speaker 2: Uh t I or Rick Ross? T?

4048
03:06:43,560 --> 03:06:44,880
Speaker 1: I Okay? I love you?

4049
03:06:45,040 --> 03:06:48,480
Speaker 4: Rick Ross? You blocked me on Instagram. I don't know why.

4050
03:06:49,879 --> 03:06:50,680
Speaker 4: Why don't you block?

4051
03:06:50,959 --> 03:06:51,600
Speaker 1: Do you want.

4052
03:06:53,840 --> 03:06:56,840
Speaker 4: Rick Ross. Bro, we overdo for a conversation and I'm

4053
03:06:56,879 --> 03:07:00,360
Speaker 4: real cool with uh uh one of Rick Rosses. Old jeez,

4054
03:07:00,600 --> 03:07:03,560
Speaker 4: my brother, Papa zol down here in Miami. You feel me,

4055
03:07:04,000 --> 03:07:04,520
Speaker 4: Rick Ross?

4056
03:07:04,800 --> 03:07:05,039
Speaker 1: Brother?

4057
03:07:05,120 --> 03:07:07,600
Speaker 4: I love you, Bro. I don't want you to become

4058
03:07:07,640 --> 03:07:11,200
Speaker 4: a prisoner to your own persona. Feel me, the boss,

4059
03:07:11,879 --> 03:07:12,960
Speaker 4: the biggest da da da.

4060
03:07:13,680 --> 03:07:14,160
Speaker 1: We get it.

4061
03:07:14,720 --> 03:07:17,800
Speaker 4: But at the same time, it's a lot of growth

4062
03:07:17,959 --> 03:07:20,400
Speaker 4: that you're missing out on because you feel the need

4063
03:07:20,560 --> 03:07:22,200
Speaker 4: to have to be in character all the time.

4064
03:07:22,600 --> 03:07:22,920
Speaker 1: Feel me.

4065
03:07:23,120 --> 03:07:24,920
Speaker 4: I know you have hard times. I know I know

4066
03:07:25,000 --> 03:07:27,720
Speaker 4: that there are things that you struggle with, but you

4067
03:07:27,959 --> 03:07:30,600
Speaker 4: just exude this aura of you got it all together,

4068
03:07:30,800 --> 03:07:33,800
Speaker 4: and people be catching you in your lives, like in

4069
03:07:33,920 --> 03:07:35,840
Speaker 4: your interviews, they be catching you in your lives.

4070
03:07:36,440 --> 03:07:38,600
Speaker 2: I just watched the interview Oh did you get your

4071
03:07:38,720 --> 03:07:39,200
Speaker 2: name from Free?

4072
03:07:39,200 --> 03:07:40,000
Speaker 1: With Ricky Ross.

4073
03:07:40,200 --> 03:07:42,680
Speaker 4: He don't want to answer that question, Bro, of course

4074
03:07:42,720 --> 03:07:45,600
Speaker 4: you got your name from free Ricky Ross. It's just like, brother,

4075
03:07:45,920 --> 03:07:48,440
Speaker 4: let's just life is just easier when we could be

4076
03:07:48,520 --> 03:07:51,200
Speaker 4: like the truth is the truth? Yeah, man, the truth

4077
03:07:51,240 --> 03:07:53,080
Speaker 4: has set you free. None of us is perfect, you

4078
03:07:53,120 --> 03:07:55,040
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying. We all that made mistakes, but

4079
03:07:56,120 --> 03:07:58,119
Speaker 4: I love Rick Ross. With all that being said, man,

4080
03:07:58,160 --> 03:08:04,000
Speaker 4: I love them. We got we gotta have a conversation eventually,

4081
03:08:04,680 --> 03:08:07,280
Speaker 4: t I. I gotta give t I to now and

4082
03:08:07,360 --> 03:08:11,199
Speaker 4: that one. My first deal was with Grand Hustle Management.

4083
03:08:11,760 --> 03:08:15,600
Speaker 4: I was signed to Grand Hustle Management. Jason Jitter, that

4084
03:08:15,720 --> 03:08:17,560
Speaker 4: was my manager. I went on my first tour with

4085
03:08:17,680 --> 03:08:20,600
Speaker 4: Young dro Killer Mike and a group called Pac Div

4086
03:08:20,720 --> 03:08:22,400
Speaker 4: So I was the opener on that tour. We was

4087
03:08:22,480 --> 03:08:25,520
Speaker 4: all sharing a tour bus D one, Young Drove Kill

4088
03:08:26,320 --> 03:08:28,760
Speaker 4: and crazy, crazy.

4089
03:08:28,720 --> 03:08:31,360
Speaker 1: Conversations huh me and Killer Mike. Every day.

4090
03:08:31,440 --> 03:08:33,120
Speaker 4: I would just go sit in the front next to

4091
03:08:33,200 --> 03:08:35,320
Speaker 4: him because I knew he would just tell me stories

4092
03:08:35,520 --> 03:08:37,520
Speaker 4: and I just wanted to soak this knowledge up. I'm

4093
03:08:37,600 --> 03:08:39,240
Speaker 4: fresh off of being a middle school teacher, you know

4094
03:08:39,240 --> 03:08:41,040
Speaker 4: what I mean. T I was in jail at the time, right,

4095
03:08:41,400 --> 03:08:45,080
Speaker 4: So I never met Ti I during that period. But recently, man,

4096
03:08:45,120 --> 03:08:48,040
Speaker 4: Ti I started following me on Instagram and we started

4097
03:08:48,080 --> 03:08:50,680
Speaker 4: building in the d ms and everything, and once again

4098
03:08:50,760 --> 03:08:53,560
Speaker 4: I was like, dang, it means a lot is somebody

4099
03:08:53,640 --> 03:08:56,680
Speaker 4: who I have been influenced by thinks highly of me

4100
03:08:56,800 --> 03:08:58,160
Speaker 4: and I didn't even know it, you know what I mean?

4101
03:08:58,280 --> 03:09:00,360
Speaker 4: So a lot of this, bro, I'm still that kid

4102
03:09:00,560 --> 03:09:03,320
Speaker 4: in New Orleans who got stolen cable, you know what

4103
03:09:03,320 --> 03:09:06,080
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So we got cable, we got BT because

4104
03:09:06,080 --> 03:09:07,640
Speaker 4: we got stolen cable, MTV the.

4105
03:09:07,720 --> 03:09:08,720
Speaker 2: Box, you know what I'm saying.

4106
03:09:08,959 --> 03:09:11,440
Speaker 4: And I'm still that dude that's like man, that's juvenile

4107
03:09:11,560 --> 03:09:14,400
Speaker 4: from off the box, but that's BG from uptown from

4108
03:09:14,480 --> 03:09:17,720
Speaker 4: VM and that's TI. And now that I'm in circles

4109
03:09:17,760 --> 03:09:20,640
Speaker 4: with these people and not having to compromise who I am,

4110
03:09:20,920 --> 03:09:24,720
Speaker 4: but able to build constructively with them, I'm grateful.

4111
03:09:24,760 --> 03:09:25,640
Speaker 2: It's a beautiful thing.

4112
03:09:26,440 --> 03:09:28,400
Speaker 1: Get back into one more than we get back into

4113
03:09:28,440 --> 03:09:35,840
Speaker 1: the interview. That's my favorite question to asks. Loyalty or respect,

4114
03:09:37,400 --> 03:09:37,879
Speaker 1: neither one.

4115
03:09:39,160 --> 03:09:44,960
Speaker 4: Purpose. Before loyalty or respect, you need purpose because when

4116
03:09:45,000 --> 03:09:48,360
Speaker 4: you know your God given purpose, it makes you want

4117
03:09:48,440 --> 03:09:51,120
Speaker 4: to make sure that people respect you for being the

4118
03:09:51,240 --> 03:09:53,880
Speaker 4: best version of who you are. People in this world

4119
03:09:53,920 --> 03:09:56,640
Speaker 4: will respect you for being a version of you that

4120
03:09:56,720 --> 03:09:58,800
Speaker 4: the devil was proud of. You don't want to be

4121
03:09:58,920 --> 03:10:01,560
Speaker 4: respected for being a You don't want to be respected

4122
03:10:01,600 --> 03:10:04,560
Speaker 4: for being a crash out right and loyalty. When you

4123
03:10:04,680 --> 03:10:07,960
Speaker 4: know your purpose, then you know the difference between loyalty,

4124
03:10:08,040 --> 03:10:11,320
Speaker 4: because loyalty is cool, but blind loyalty it makes you

4125
03:10:11,400 --> 03:10:14,680
Speaker 4: a fool. We got too many people to hear that

4126
03:10:14,760 --> 03:10:18,160
Speaker 4: word loyalty and they're like, bet, I'm just loyal by

4127
03:10:18,200 --> 03:10:21,000
Speaker 4: any means necessary, just whatever. I'm just loyal till the

4128
03:10:21,080 --> 03:10:23,960
Speaker 4: death of me, And that blind loyalty has literally made

4129
03:10:24,000 --> 03:10:27,280
Speaker 4: you into a fool. But loyalty when it's underneath the

4130
03:10:27,400 --> 03:10:30,080
Speaker 4: umbrella of purpose is something to where you're like, Hey,

4131
03:10:30,200 --> 03:10:32,879
Speaker 4: I only want you to be loyal to me if

4132
03:10:32,959 --> 03:10:35,400
Speaker 4: I'm exuding the best version of who I am.

4133
03:10:36,240 --> 03:10:38,720
Speaker 2: If I'm leading y'all down the wrong path, don't be.

4134
03:10:38,800 --> 03:10:40,840
Speaker 4: Loyal to me. Let me crash out on my own,

4135
03:10:41,280 --> 03:10:43,480
Speaker 4: you know what I mean? And sometimes being loyal to

4136
03:10:43,600 --> 03:10:46,959
Speaker 4: me is stepping away from me temporarily until I get

4137
03:10:47,000 --> 03:10:49,560
Speaker 4: my mind rights right and then loving me from a distance.

4138
03:10:50,200 --> 03:10:52,480
Speaker 4: So I say, purpose before loyalty or respect.

4139
03:10:52,520 --> 03:11:01,160
Speaker 2: I respect that. So in the perfect world, what would

4140
03:11:01,160 --> 03:11:03,560
Speaker 2: you hold hip hop improves on?

4141
03:11:04,680 --> 03:11:08,200
Speaker 4: Like from here on out, I don't want us to

4142
03:11:08,280 --> 03:11:12,039
Speaker 4: glorify murder anymore and make it sound cool to go around.

4143
03:11:12,320 --> 03:11:16,880
Speaker 4: Can we at least start off with not glorifying murder? Right,

4144
03:11:17,400 --> 03:11:20,880
Speaker 4: not sliding on your aps? Not bragging about all the

4145
03:11:20,959 --> 03:11:23,000
Speaker 4: people you killed, even though a lot of y'all lying,

4146
03:11:23,280 --> 03:11:26,480
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, not doing that Number two

4147
03:11:27,360 --> 03:11:30,360
Speaker 4: making it sound cool to either be a drug addict

4148
03:11:30,760 --> 03:11:33,040
Speaker 4: or a drug dealer. We're to the point where we

4149
03:11:33,160 --> 03:11:36,039
Speaker 4: got people who brag on how much they were selling

4150
03:11:36,080 --> 03:11:39,320
Speaker 4: cocaine to their own community for right, how much the

4151
03:11:39,360 --> 03:11:41,640
Speaker 4: coke prices was, and they brag on this stuff. We

4152
03:11:41,760 --> 03:11:44,000
Speaker 4: got interviewers who'll be like, hey, man, give me your

4153
03:11:44,080 --> 03:11:47,680
Speaker 4: top five cocaine rappers of all time. The joke is

4154
03:11:47,720 --> 03:11:51,520
Speaker 4: on us. That sounds extremely deplorable. That makes us sound

4155
03:11:51,640 --> 03:11:54,080
Speaker 4: horrible when we're talking about this stuff in a way

4156
03:11:54,200 --> 03:11:55,480
Speaker 4: like it's cool. You know what I mean.

4157
03:11:55,680 --> 03:11:56,240
Speaker 2: Y'all must have.

4158
03:11:56,280 --> 03:11:58,120
Speaker 4: Never had an uncle that was on dope like me.

4159
03:11:58,600 --> 03:12:01,560
Speaker 4: Y'all must have never had the neighbor lived across the street.

4160
03:12:01,879 --> 03:12:04,040
Speaker 4: And my mam is like, oh, yeah, you know mister

4161
03:12:04,120 --> 03:12:06,720
Speaker 4: Lord from across the street. That's him on Cops right now,

4162
03:12:06,879 --> 03:12:08,760
Speaker 4: on the TV show Cops. You know what I'm saying,

4163
03:12:08,800 --> 03:12:10,920
Speaker 4: I'm seeing he tweaked out on Cops. You know what

4164
03:12:10,920 --> 03:12:13,480
Speaker 4: I mean, Man, it's my neighbor. Man, I love this man,

4165
03:12:14,120 --> 03:12:16,480
Speaker 4: So that stuff ain't cool to hear that glorifying and rap.

4166
03:12:16,720 --> 03:12:20,680
Speaker 4: Let's stop glorifying murder, stop glorifying drug usage and drug dealing.

4167
03:12:21,680 --> 03:12:27,240
Speaker 4: Let's stop the glorification of disrespecting women, like disrespecting women,

4168
03:12:27,360 --> 03:12:30,800
Speaker 4: blatantly disrespecting women. Right, I like to see that stop.

4169
03:12:31,400 --> 03:12:35,200
Speaker 4: And then fourth, I would like to see slut rap

4170
03:12:36,120 --> 03:12:40,400
Speaker 4: cease to exist. Slutty rap is when you are glorifying

4171
03:12:40,520 --> 03:12:43,959
Speaker 4: going out here and Oh, I'm only smashing if you're

4172
03:12:44,000 --> 03:12:46,760
Speaker 4: paying You heard me, Oh, I got all these different

4173
03:12:46,840 --> 03:12:52,119
Speaker 4: dudes on my roster. Oh just talking about your wop,

4174
03:12:52,520 --> 03:12:54,320
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. And you think about the

4175
03:12:54,360 --> 03:12:57,640
Speaker 4: people who made the song wop whoever was Cardi B?

4176
03:12:58,080 --> 03:12:58,760
Speaker 1: And make the style?

4177
03:12:58,840 --> 03:13:01,320
Speaker 4: You see how that turned out for her with that whip?

4178
03:13:01,720 --> 03:13:05,840
Speaker 4: Oh no, yeah, I mean look like did it did

4179
03:13:05,879 --> 03:13:09,400
Speaker 4: it allow her to keep a man? You feel like?

4180
03:13:10,440 --> 03:13:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah?

4181
03:13:10,680 --> 03:13:13,680
Speaker 4: Made the stallion? You know what I'm saying. Like yeah,

4182
03:13:14,040 --> 03:13:16,280
Speaker 4: So it's like like I would just like to see that,

4183
03:13:16,520 --> 03:13:19,480
Speaker 4: uh cease to exist as far as glorifying that stuff.

4184
03:13:19,720 --> 03:13:22,360
Speaker 4: And I tell you this, don't get mad at me

4185
03:13:22,440 --> 03:13:24,760
Speaker 4: because I've been saying it, but jay Z just said

4186
03:13:24,760 --> 03:13:30,720
Speaker 4: it too. We need to stop battling each other in

4187
03:13:30,879 --> 03:13:34,920
Speaker 4: hip hop. Battle rap is a subgenre that's its own thing,

4188
03:13:35,760 --> 03:13:38,760
Speaker 4: but battling each other in hip hop and making it

4189
03:13:38,800 --> 03:13:41,120
Speaker 4: seem like it's a blood sport and it's meant to

4190
03:13:41,240 --> 03:13:44,880
Speaker 4: be competitive. No, art is not meant to be competitive.

4191
03:13:45,560 --> 03:13:49,240
Speaker 4: Art is meant to be as creative as you can be. Now, inevitably,

4192
03:13:50,360 --> 03:13:54,519
Speaker 4: the people are gonna compare and be like, oh, whose

4193
03:13:54,640 --> 03:13:56,720
Speaker 4: verses better, nor rich verse or d One's verse, even

4194
03:13:56,720 --> 03:13:59,080
Speaker 4: though they are on the same song. But as the creators,

4195
03:13:59,400 --> 03:14:02,760
Speaker 4: we gotta have have the fortitude to say, we're not

4196
03:14:02,840 --> 03:14:06,440
Speaker 4: gonna let them people divide us, because unfortunately, comparison is

4197
03:14:06,480 --> 03:14:08,840
Speaker 4: the thief of joy. And now you got people who

4198
03:14:08,920 --> 03:14:11,560
Speaker 4: do songs together who it's like, dang, how they end

4199
03:14:11,640 --> 03:14:13,920
Speaker 4: up beefing. They just did a song, they did an album.

4200
03:14:14,040 --> 03:14:15,120
Speaker 2: Then we're in a group together.

4201
03:14:15,400 --> 03:14:18,760
Speaker 4: But it's because that spirit of competition got ingrained in

4202
03:14:18,879 --> 03:14:21,480
Speaker 4: the creativity. And next thing, you know that we men

4203
03:14:21,560 --> 03:14:24,160
Speaker 4: at the end of the day. Man, if everybody on

4204
03:14:24,280 --> 03:14:26,760
Speaker 4: the song who listened to it talking about man nor

4205
03:14:26,959 --> 03:14:29,280
Speaker 4: killed d one on there, it's inevitable that I'm gonna

4206
03:14:29,280 --> 03:14:31,640
Speaker 4: be like, I feel a way, you know what I'm saying,

4207
03:14:31,720 --> 03:14:35,280
Speaker 4: And we're supposed to actively fight against that, bro. That's

4208
03:14:35,320 --> 03:14:36,160
Speaker 4: how ego talking.

4209
03:14:36,560 --> 03:14:37,000
Speaker 2: You feel me?

4210
03:14:37,320 --> 03:14:40,400
Speaker 4: So I would like to see that spirit of battling

4211
03:14:40,480 --> 03:14:43,320
Speaker 4: each other in hip hop cease to exist.

4212
03:14:43,520 --> 03:14:44,480
Speaker 2: So that's the top five.

4213
03:14:44,920 --> 03:14:48,280
Speaker 4: Stop glorifying murder, stop glorifying drug dealing and drug use,

4214
03:14:48,640 --> 03:14:53,320
Speaker 4: stop glorifying the disrespect of women, stop glorifying slutty rap,

4215
03:14:53,920 --> 03:15:00,440
Speaker 4: and stop with the competitive, beefed out nature hip hop.

4216
03:15:01,120 --> 03:15:04,720
Speaker 1: I love that, Yeah, yeah, if.

4217
03:15:04,680 --> 03:15:05,760
Speaker 3: That I love.

4218
03:15:05,800 --> 03:15:07,520
Speaker 4: The serious question is that ask do you feel like

4219
03:15:07,600 --> 03:15:08,879
Speaker 4: that's asking too much?

4220
03:15:09,120 --> 03:15:11,640
Speaker 1: I feel like it's not asking for too much. I

4221
03:15:11,720 --> 03:15:14,959
Speaker 1: feel like it's a work in progress. It's like something

4222
03:15:15,080 --> 03:15:17,280
Speaker 1: like you know, it takes a person like you to

4223
03:15:17,320 --> 03:15:19,280
Speaker 1: put it out there for people to even know that

4224
03:15:19,360 --> 03:15:20,680
Speaker 1: that's a problem, you know what I mean. Like some

4225
03:15:20,800 --> 03:15:23,000
Speaker 1: people live in certain parts of the world where they

4226
03:15:23,080 --> 03:15:25,000
Speaker 1: live in their own world, you know what I mean.

4227
03:15:25,160 --> 03:15:29,360
Speaker 1: Like I I sometimes like I sometimes don't even touch

4228
03:15:29,440 --> 03:15:31,480
Speaker 1: my phone, like how I told you I've seen a fight,

4229
03:15:31,520 --> 03:15:34,200
Speaker 1: and I sometimes so because I don't want to live.

4230
03:15:34,920 --> 03:15:36,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a slave to the Instagram.

4231
03:15:36,959 --> 03:15:38,640
Speaker 1: Like I go to use the bathroom or on purpose

4232
03:15:38,720 --> 03:15:41,640
Speaker 1: without my phone sometimes and I give a whole bunch

4233
03:15:41,720 --> 03:15:44,040
Speaker 1: of yeah, because it's just like it's just like you,

4234
03:15:44,160 --> 03:15:45,720
Speaker 1: you know, you go to the bathroom, you look at

4235
03:15:45,959 --> 03:15:48,119
Speaker 1: one thing, and you stayed there, you wind up being there,

4236
03:15:48,160 --> 03:15:51,360
Speaker 1: and the yeah you and you wind up being there

4237
03:15:51,520 --> 03:15:53,520
Speaker 1: and you you really was in the bathroom, just on

4238
03:15:53,640 --> 03:15:56,280
Speaker 1: your gram. You really wasn't even there. Take handly your business.

4239
03:15:56,560 --> 03:15:59,280
Speaker 1: So like a lot of people say to me, and

4240
03:15:59,360 --> 03:16:01,160
Speaker 1: I say to you, fast, a lot of people don't

4241
03:16:01,160 --> 03:16:03,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean is I'm faster from this, you

4242
03:16:03,600 --> 03:16:05,680
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Like it's like because this ship

4243
03:16:05,840 --> 03:16:09,720
Speaker 1: just this spucks me up. So yeah, man, I respect

4244
03:16:09,760 --> 03:16:13,480
Speaker 1: everything you said. Man, I respect this, respect this conversation.

4245
03:16:14,120 --> 03:16:15,160
Speaker 2: Uh I didn't.

4246
03:16:15,280 --> 03:16:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean I could have smoked, but I didn't want

4247
03:16:17,240 --> 03:16:18,720
Speaker 1: to smoke. I didn't want to drink. I wanted to

4248
03:16:18,760 --> 03:16:20,920
Speaker 1: do this ship like because I want this shit that

4249
03:16:20,959 --> 03:16:22,600
Speaker 1: comes to my heart because this is the person that

4250
03:16:22,720 --> 03:16:24,840
Speaker 1: I am, you know what I mean. But I don't

4251
03:16:24,840 --> 03:16:26,760
Speaker 1: know how to fully be that person. But I'm a

4252
03:16:26,840 --> 03:16:28,600
Speaker 1: work in progress as well, you know what I'm saying.

4253
03:16:28,920 --> 03:16:31,080
Speaker 1: But I know this message has to be it has

4254
03:16:31,160 --> 03:16:33,039
Speaker 1: to has, it has to be come across they can't.

4255
03:16:33,560 --> 03:16:36,840
Speaker 1: And so for sharing my platform. I know you think me,

4256
03:16:36,959 --> 03:16:39,240
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking you. You know what I'm saying, thinking

4257
03:16:39,280 --> 03:16:42,120
Speaker 1: you for you doing your job. You you being in

4258
03:16:42,200 --> 03:16:45,279
Speaker 1: the algorithms when you're not being scared to go against

4259
03:16:46,200 --> 03:16:48,520
Speaker 1: the grain because that's what you're going against. Even for

4260
03:16:48,600 --> 03:16:50,760
Speaker 1: the people that's with you, it's just like this is

4261
03:16:50,800 --> 03:16:54,039
Speaker 1: so unpopular and you're the first one, so it's never

4262
03:16:54,160 --> 03:16:57,840
Speaker 1: really like the first one never really gets the accolades and.

4263
03:16:57,879 --> 03:16:58,920
Speaker 2: The props and all this.

4264
03:16:59,160 --> 03:17:03,240
Speaker 1: So but it's something that's necessary, you know what I'm saying.

4265
03:17:03,280 --> 03:17:05,720
Speaker 1: It's something that it's something that's necessary, and it's something

4266
03:17:05,800 --> 03:17:06,640
Speaker 1: that you're doing.

4267
03:17:06,680 --> 03:17:09,120
Speaker 2: You're doing a great job. And I let you know,

4268
03:17:09,320 --> 03:17:10,600
Speaker 2: like you know, most of these most.

4269
03:17:10,480 --> 03:17:14,480
Speaker 1: Of these people support you already supporting you up front.

4270
03:17:14,959 --> 03:17:18,120
Speaker 1: Some are scared to some are I don't know it,

4271
03:17:18,600 --> 03:17:20,760
Speaker 1: and some like by liking the picture to a to

4272
03:17:20,879 --> 03:17:23,840
Speaker 1: a certain degree, that to certain to a person like

4273
03:17:24,360 --> 03:17:26,480
Speaker 1: they think that support Like I remember that I don't

4274
03:17:26,520 --> 03:17:28,240
Speaker 1: live in this world, live in this world. But a

4275
03:17:28,280 --> 03:17:30,400
Speaker 1: person was like, man, you know you didn't like my picture.

4276
03:17:30,440 --> 03:17:32,640
Speaker 1: I'm like for real after it after I did. And

4277
03:17:32,720 --> 03:17:35,240
Speaker 1: it's like that means certain certain things to certain people,

4278
03:17:35,360 --> 03:17:38,120
Speaker 1: like and that might be a simple way of people

4279
03:17:38,160 --> 03:17:40,280
Speaker 1: trying to support you by just simply like liking your

4280
03:17:40,320 --> 03:17:43,720
Speaker 1: picture and a good I think that.

4281
03:17:46,200 --> 03:17:47,480
Speaker 2: You're you're one of the first.

4282
03:17:48,040 --> 03:17:50,000
Speaker 1: You're one of the first to do it like like this,

4283
03:17:50,560 --> 03:17:51,840
Speaker 1: and then one of the first to do it as

4284
03:17:51,879 --> 03:17:55,440
Speaker 1: a performer and do it as like an artist and

4285
03:17:55,480 --> 03:17:58,400
Speaker 1: do it as an activist, as a teacher.

4286
03:18:00,040 --> 03:18:02,440
Speaker 2: I know the awards you won and all that. One

4287
03:18:02,480 --> 03:18:02,880
Speaker 2: of the first.

4288
03:18:02,959 --> 03:18:05,720
Speaker 1: So like I'm I'm not saying you are frustrated, but

4289
03:18:05,800 --> 03:18:08,600
Speaker 1: don't get frustrated. When you give your message and you

4290
03:18:08,720 --> 03:18:11,600
Speaker 1: know your message is right, people ain't gravitating towards it

4291
03:18:11,720 --> 03:18:14,240
Speaker 1: the way you want it. Because we got to realize

4292
03:18:16,160 --> 03:18:18,080
Speaker 1: the same way we deal with smart people, there is

4293
03:18:18,640 --> 03:18:22,320
Speaker 1: people who exist who don't who don't want to change, right,

4294
03:18:22,800 --> 03:18:26,440
Speaker 1: But they're usually not around the people who do want

4295
03:18:26,480 --> 03:18:30,120
Speaker 1: to change, But sometimes they are. And trust me, trust me,

4296
03:18:30,360 --> 03:18:34,280
Speaker 1: it is way more easier to flood a person's mind

4297
03:18:34,320 --> 03:18:38,320
Speaker 1: with negativity because it's more attractive. Like I said, like

4298
03:18:38,800 --> 03:18:42,080
Speaker 1: I watched one little fight on Instagram. My whole shit

4299
03:18:42,200 --> 03:18:45,160
Speaker 1: change the Instagram. If you go watch one little thing

4300
03:18:45,560 --> 03:18:48,560
Speaker 1: on about a stripper, all the strippers is gonna come

4301
03:18:48,640 --> 03:18:50,880
Speaker 1: up on your ship like it's it's and then it's like,

4302
03:18:50,959 --> 03:18:53,879
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is it's hard, you know what I'm saying.

4303
03:18:53,920 --> 03:18:55,880
Speaker 1: So like I so what I had to do like

4304
03:18:56,000 --> 03:18:57,920
Speaker 1: this is this is funny. The other day, I don't

4305
03:18:58,000 --> 03:18:59,959
Speaker 1: like posting me running. I don't like saying that I'm

4306
03:19:00,040 --> 03:19:02,640
Speaker 1: running it. I don't like tell them. But in order

4307
03:19:02,720 --> 03:19:05,680
Speaker 1: to change my algorithms, I had to post it. It

4308
03:19:05,879 --> 03:19:07,920
Speaker 1: was so bad, Like it was so bad that I

4309
03:19:08,000 --> 03:19:11,600
Speaker 1: had to go in and say I did this amount

4310
03:19:11,640 --> 03:19:13,520
Speaker 1: of running in a different this amount of running. I

4311
03:19:13,600 --> 03:19:17,440
Speaker 1: don't want everybody to know that I didn't. But for

4312
03:19:17,600 --> 03:19:21,240
Speaker 1: me to control my space, literally my space, like I

4313
03:19:21,360 --> 03:19:23,520
Speaker 1: had to, I had to, like I had to post.

4314
03:19:23,560 --> 03:19:26,760
Speaker 1: I had to post positivity for that positivity to come back.

4315
03:19:26,879 --> 03:19:28,720
Speaker 1: So you sometimes you got to put that shit out

4316
03:19:28,800 --> 03:19:30,840
Speaker 1: in the air, you know what I'm saying. But like

4317
03:19:31,000 --> 03:19:35,000
Speaker 1: my dumb ass, somebody sent me one fucking post, and

4318
03:19:35,200 --> 03:19:40,160
Speaker 1: my whole shit was, ah, hoodie fights, How how the

4319
03:19:40,240 --> 03:19:41,640
Speaker 1: hell hood fights keep popping.

4320
03:19:41,440 --> 03:19:42,000
Speaker 2: Up on my sleep?

4321
03:19:42,200 --> 03:19:44,440
Speaker 1: I don't want to watch no goddamn hood fights. And

4322
03:19:44,520 --> 03:19:47,720
Speaker 1: then I did watch one or two though, and it

4323
03:19:47,840 --> 03:19:50,560
Speaker 1: changed my whole I regretted that ship.

4324
03:19:50,640 --> 03:19:54,160
Speaker 4: So I regretted that fifteen seconds, but like, yeah, for real.

4325
03:19:54,280 --> 03:19:57,840
Speaker 1: But so like my point is, man, keep throwing that

4326
03:19:57,959 --> 03:20:02,200
Speaker 1: positivity out in the world and this will come back. Man,

4327
03:20:02,280 --> 03:20:05,119
Speaker 1: this will come back. It will It will resonate with people.

4328
03:20:05,160 --> 03:20:09,200
Speaker 1: Even if it's taking a little a little longer than expected,

4329
03:20:09,680 --> 03:20:12,680
Speaker 1: it will eventually work. Because don't none of them ain't no.

4330
03:20:13,200 --> 03:20:15,120
Speaker 1: First of all, if you're in the rap game, I

4331
03:20:15,200 --> 03:20:17,080
Speaker 1: know we're starting with the rap game. If you're in

4332
03:20:17,120 --> 03:20:19,440
Speaker 1: a rap game and you signed the contract or you

4333
03:20:19,879 --> 03:20:22,680
Speaker 1: are part of it, it's it's you know, you know

4334
03:20:23,400 --> 03:20:26,680
Speaker 1: that you know a lot of these things that we're

4335
03:20:26,760 --> 03:20:29,120
Speaker 1: part of. It was a part of the algorithms that

4336
03:20:29,280 --> 03:20:32,680
Speaker 1: was a part of that was out before us right now. Now,

4337
03:20:33,080 --> 03:20:35,640
Speaker 1: whether we participate in it or not, that's on us.

4338
03:20:36,240 --> 03:20:38,400
Speaker 1: But so I just want you to know, man, you're

4339
03:20:38,440 --> 03:20:40,920
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. Man, if you ever, if you

4340
03:20:40,959 --> 03:20:43,600
Speaker 1: ever needed to hear that, That's why I wanted to

4341
03:20:43,640 --> 03:20:45,800
Speaker 1: give you flowers. I wanted you to know how important

4342
03:20:45,840 --> 03:20:50,760
Speaker 1: you are and how not to to to just this

4343
03:20:50,920 --> 03:20:53,760
Speaker 1: show and this culture, but how important you are to life.

4344
03:20:54,320 --> 03:20:54,920
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

4345
03:20:55,000 --> 03:20:57,360
Speaker 1: We can't gatekeep you and be like yo, you just

4346
03:20:57,480 --> 03:21:00,440
Speaker 1: hip hop like you know what I'm saying, Like shiittherucking

4347
03:21:00,560 --> 03:21:04,280
Speaker 1: for at Leasha Keys and Tianna Taylor needs you in

4348
03:21:04,520 --> 03:21:07,680
Speaker 1: R and B ship me sh you have you have

4349
03:21:07,800 --> 03:21:09,480
Speaker 1: to be for everybody. You know what I'm saying. You

4350
03:21:09,600 --> 03:21:11,840
Speaker 1: got to be for everybody You're going to be and shit,

4351
03:21:12,160 --> 03:21:14,760
Speaker 1: shit people might need you in other coaches. People might

4352
03:21:14,840 --> 03:21:16,680
Speaker 1: need you an F one. You know what I'm saying,

4353
03:21:16,800 --> 03:21:18,680
Speaker 1: Like she got nothing to do with us. It's fucking

4354
03:21:18,760 --> 03:21:21,400
Speaker 1: fast calls. But if they need that word, then you

4355
03:21:21,520 --> 03:21:23,120
Speaker 1: got to You got to be able to commit it.

4356
03:21:23,200 --> 03:21:28,280
Speaker 1: And that's why I said, like I love you addressing

4357
03:21:28,400 --> 03:21:31,480
Speaker 1: JD and I love you addressing the certain things and

4358
03:21:31,560 --> 03:21:33,160
Speaker 1: saying hell, I mean I still love them. You know

4359
03:21:33,160 --> 03:21:35,000
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's just certain things and I just

4360
03:21:35,040 --> 03:21:37,560
Speaker 1: want you to just that's my only advice. Like you know,

4361
03:21:37,600 --> 03:21:40,680
Speaker 1: because I think you're doing everything good. It's like certain

4362
03:21:40,720 --> 03:21:43,920
Speaker 1: times when you could teach somebody like a person. I

4363
03:21:44,040 --> 03:21:46,360
Speaker 1: believe this is the old school saying. I would rather

4364
03:21:46,480 --> 03:21:49,400
Speaker 1: you speak to me to speak at me. You know

4365
03:21:49,400 --> 03:21:49,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.

4366
03:21:50,360 --> 03:21:53,000
Speaker 2: And some people, some people can't take it like that.

4367
03:21:53,200 --> 03:21:53,760
Speaker 2: Just think about it.

4368
03:21:53,800 --> 03:21:56,200
Speaker 1: I ain't been challenging in fifteen years, and then we

4369
03:21:56,320 --> 03:21:59,360
Speaker 1: got a young brother sayingbody, hey man, you could do better.

4370
03:22:00,640 --> 03:22:02,080
Speaker 4: I love you, Yeah, I love you.

4371
03:22:05,000 --> 03:22:07,040
Speaker 1: Just hearing yo, man, this guy's this, This is that.

4372
03:22:07,200 --> 03:22:09,320
Speaker 1: So I wanted to give you your fly. So it's

4373
03:22:09,360 --> 03:22:10,880
Speaker 1: anything else do you want to say before we get

4374
03:22:10,920 --> 03:22:11,320
Speaker 1: up out of here?

4375
03:22:11,400 --> 03:22:13,000
Speaker 4: Man, if I could just let people know how they

4376
03:22:13,040 --> 03:22:14,680
Speaker 4: can support me, yes, it's gonna be powered.

4377
03:22:14,760 --> 03:22:15,000
Speaker 1: All right.

4378
03:22:15,160 --> 03:22:18,760
Speaker 4: So number one, I'm on my fifteenth album right now. Yeah,

4379
03:22:18,879 --> 03:22:22,480
Speaker 4: thank you, thank you, thank you, thank you. It's called

4380
03:22:22,520 --> 03:22:26,080
Speaker 4: the Shift, okay, because the Shift is here. Okay, it's happening.

4381
03:22:26,120 --> 03:22:28,119
Speaker 4: It's in front of us. A shift is happening right now.

4382
03:22:28,320 --> 03:22:31,720
Speaker 4: I'm doing this album. Oh it's one hundred percent independent.

4383
03:22:31,800 --> 03:22:34,720
Speaker 4: It's so independent that I'm doing it like this. I'm

4384
03:22:34,760 --> 03:22:36,880
Speaker 4: allowing my fans to go name their own price for

4385
03:22:36,959 --> 03:22:40,600
Speaker 4: the album, right yeah. So I've done this before, but

4386
03:22:40,680 --> 03:22:41,840
Speaker 4: on this album, we got a goal.

4387
03:22:41,959 --> 03:22:42,640
Speaker 1: We want we go.

4388
03:22:42,800 --> 03:22:45,320
Speaker 4: We want ten thousand people to get the pre order

4389
03:22:45,400 --> 03:22:47,000
Speaker 4: for the album, and you can name your own price

4390
03:22:47,080 --> 03:22:49,959
Speaker 4: from a dollar on up to a million dollars, whatever

4391
03:22:50,040 --> 03:22:51,880
Speaker 4: level you want to support on. Right what other artists

4392
03:22:51,879 --> 03:22:54,400
Speaker 4: did that to Russell love Russell. Yeah, yeah, so I've

4393
03:22:54,400 --> 03:22:56,400
Speaker 4: been doing this since twenty twenty two, but now I

4394
03:22:56,480 --> 03:22:58,200
Speaker 4: got more eyes on it than ever, so I'm letting

4395
03:22:58,240 --> 03:23:00,600
Speaker 4: people know the Shift is out. The goal is to

4396
03:23:00,680 --> 03:23:02,880
Speaker 4: get ten thousand artists. Like you said, people feel like

4397
03:23:02,879 --> 03:23:05,040
Speaker 4: they're supporting you if they like your pitchure off they

4398
03:23:05,080 --> 03:23:07,320
Speaker 4: follow you online right as soon as you tell them, hey,

4399
03:23:07,400 --> 03:23:08,360
Speaker 4: go support my album and.

4400
03:23:08,480 --> 03:23:09,640
Speaker 2: Your own price commerce.

4401
03:23:09,920 --> 03:23:12,680
Speaker 4: Oh man, And it's harder right now. At the time

4402
03:23:12,720 --> 03:23:15,880
Speaker 4: of this recording, we have sold one thousand, one hundred

4403
03:23:15,879 --> 03:23:18,080
Speaker 4: and eighty nine pre orders, so we're trying to get

4404
03:23:18,120 --> 03:23:20,520
Speaker 4: to ten thousand. So we got a long way to go.

4405
03:23:21,040 --> 03:23:22,840
Speaker 4: I want to hit that goal because I want to

4406
03:23:22,920 --> 03:23:25,400
Speaker 4: prove to the young artists coming up that there's a

4407
03:23:25,520 --> 03:23:27,760
Speaker 4: demand for realness, you know what I mean, Just like

4408
03:23:27,840 --> 03:23:29,200
Speaker 4: it meant to allow for me to be on drink

4409
03:23:29,240 --> 03:23:31,880
Speaker 4: champons and get my flowers today. When the artist sees that,

4410
03:23:32,040 --> 03:23:35,400
Speaker 4: like dang, you could not compromise your morals and you

4411
03:23:35,440 --> 03:23:39,480
Speaker 4: could sell ten thousand units order, that's big. So the Shift,

4412
03:23:39,640 --> 03:23:41,840
Speaker 4: that's the new album. People could go on band camp,

4413
03:23:41,920 --> 03:23:44,959
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. No, it's available for pre order, Okay,

4414
03:23:44,959 --> 03:23:47,440
Speaker 4: So when you reorder pre order it. You get five

4415
03:23:47,520 --> 03:23:49,400
Speaker 4: tracks instantly off the album, and then you get the

4416
03:23:49,440 --> 03:23:51,720
Speaker 4: rest of the album when it drops. I want to

4417
03:23:51,720 --> 03:23:52,320
Speaker 4: get to ten.

4418
03:23:52,200 --> 03:23:53,840
Speaker 2: Thousand before I drop the full album.

4419
03:23:54,120 --> 03:23:55,720
Speaker 4: So please, if you're listening to this and you like

4420
03:23:55,800 --> 03:23:59,000
Speaker 4: anything we said today, man goal, whatever level you want

4421
03:23:59,040 --> 03:23:59,800
Speaker 4: to support on, I made it.

4422
03:24:00,280 --> 03:24:00,720
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

4423
03:24:00,800 --> 03:24:03,720
Speaker 4: From a dial on up support get the Shift right,

4424
03:24:04,440 --> 03:24:06,080
Speaker 4: that's the soundtrack to this movement.

4425
03:24:06,200 --> 03:24:07,200
Speaker 1: Right, So we got that.

4426
03:24:07,360 --> 03:24:11,119
Speaker 4: I got my podcast. By the time this drops, my podcast.

4427
03:24:10,680 --> 03:24:11,119
Speaker 1: Will be out.

4428
03:24:11,400 --> 03:24:13,520
Speaker 4: We already filmed ten episodes for the podcast.

4429
03:24:13,600 --> 03:24:15,119
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

4430
03:24:15,959 --> 03:24:18,520
Speaker 4: The podcast is called The Shift as well. It's called

4431
03:24:18,560 --> 03:24:21,880
Speaker 4: The Shift. Yep. Got amazing, amazing people on there. I

4432
03:24:21,959 --> 03:24:24,119
Speaker 4: gotta get you on there. Yeah yeah, yeah, So that's

4433
03:24:24,120 --> 03:24:27,160
Speaker 4: the easy and matter of fact, shure. I gotta get up.

4434
03:24:27,160 --> 03:24:32,880
Speaker 4: I gotta get a song with you because you're a

4435
03:24:32,959 --> 03:24:35,360
Speaker 4: part of the Shift. Yes, you turned me up when

4436
03:24:35,400 --> 03:24:38,600
Speaker 4: you met me, bro like that, dad, all Basil, you

4437
03:24:38,720 --> 03:24:40,680
Speaker 4: turned me up when you met me, bro, because how

4438
03:24:40,720 --> 03:24:42,960
Speaker 4: you pour it into a younger brother. Thank you for that.

4439
03:24:43,080 --> 03:24:44,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate from the bottom of my heart.

4440
03:24:44,920 --> 03:24:46,600
Speaker 4: So I got the album to Shift, I got the

4441
03:24:46,680 --> 03:24:49,680
Speaker 4: podcast to shift. I got the Platinum Pledge, which is

4442
03:24:49,720 --> 03:24:52,080
Speaker 4: simply asking people to go to my website D one

4443
03:24:52,200 --> 03:24:55,560
Speaker 4: music dot com, d Ee the number one music dot com.

4444
03:24:55,800 --> 03:24:58,560
Speaker 4: The Platinum Pledge is just people taking two seconds to

4445
03:24:58,760 --> 03:25:02,040
Speaker 4: sign the edge that I made. That says, hey, I

4446
03:25:02,200 --> 03:25:06,440
Speaker 4: no longer want to create, consume, or promote hip hop

4447
03:25:06,560 --> 03:25:10,600
Speaker 4: music that's glorifying murder, drug dealing, drug use.

4448
03:25:10,720 --> 03:25:11,840
Speaker 2: And disrespecting women.

4449
03:25:12,240 --> 03:25:12,640
Speaker 1: You heard me.

4450
03:25:12,840 --> 03:25:15,119
Speaker 4: We got almost one hundred thousand people signed the Platinum

4451
03:25:15,120 --> 03:25:17,040
Speaker 4: Pledge so far. So I need people to go to

4452
03:25:17,120 --> 03:25:19,039
Speaker 4: my website sign a platinum pledge.

4453
03:25:19,160 --> 03:25:19,760
Speaker 2: And other than that.

4454
03:25:19,920 --> 03:25:24,200
Speaker 4: Bro Oh two last things. One is I had to

4455
03:25:24,320 --> 03:25:29,560
Speaker 4: expand my territory from just rapping and let me's see.

4456
03:25:32,280 --> 03:25:35,200
Speaker 2: Oh I must have forgot it. Oh there I wrote,

4457
03:25:35,640 --> 03:25:37,280
Speaker 2: I wrote a hip hop children's book.

4458
03:25:37,959 --> 03:25:41,800
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So it's an anti it's

4459
03:25:41,840 --> 03:25:44,560
Speaker 4: an anti bullying hip hop children's book. You know, my

4460
03:25:44,640 --> 03:25:47,160
Speaker 4: real name is David, so it's called David found his

4461
03:25:47,240 --> 03:25:49,760
Speaker 4: sling Shot. When I was in kindergarten in New Orleans.

4462
03:25:49,840 --> 03:25:50,959
Speaker 4: True story, I used to get.

4463
03:25:50,879 --> 03:25:53,480
Speaker 2: Bullied every day by this big, huge dude.

4464
03:25:53,600 --> 03:25:53,720
Speaker 1: Right.

4465
03:25:54,600 --> 03:25:57,320
Speaker 4: Turns out me and my bully had something in common

4466
03:25:57,520 --> 03:25:59,560
Speaker 4: and it was hip hop. I love for hip hop.

4467
03:26:00,040 --> 03:26:02,760
Speaker 4: After we realized that I can't give the whole book away.

4468
03:26:02,840 --> 03:26:05,040
Speaker 4: But once we realized that we did something and we

4469
03:26:05,120 --> 03:26:07,480
Speaker 4: went from bullies to he is my best friend to

4470
03:26:07,600 --> 03:26:10,280
Speaker 4: this day thirty years later. So I wrote a book

4471
03:26:10,280 --> 03:26:13,200
Speaker 4: about it to teach our next generation how to build

4472
03:26:13,280 --> 03:26:15,840
Speaker 4: bridges with one another, even though you might have some differences.

4473
03:26:16,280 --> 03:26:18,760
Speaker 4: David found his slingshot because your sling shot is a

4474
03:26:18,800 --> 03:26:21,360
Speaker 4: metaphor for the gift that God gave you. When you

4475
03:26:21,440 --> 03:26:23,880
Speaker 4: find your sling shot, you're supposed to use your sling

4476
03:26:23,959 --> 03:26:26,120
Speaker 4: shot to defeat the golias in your life, you know

4477
03:26:26,200 --> 03:26:28,080
Speaker 4: what I mean. So that's all my website as well.

4478
03:26:28,120 --> 03:26:29,760
Speaker 4: Do youwantmusic dot Com? Yeah?

4479
03:26:29,840 --> 03:26:30,320
Speaker 2: So I got that.

4480
03:26:30,760 --> 03:26:32,960
Speaker 4: And the last thing, Bro, that's the most important thing

4481
03:26:33,040 --> 03:26:35,800
Speaker 4: that anybody could do to support me. Man, Just keep

4482
03:26:35,840 --> 03:26:38,959
Speaker 4: me in your prayers, literally keep me in your prayers

4483
03:26:39,000 --> 03:26:42,280
Speaker 4: and honestly pray for me that I'm the best version

4484
03:26:42,360 --> 03:26:44,560
Speaker 4: of who God called me to be. But then the

4485
03:26:44,760 --> 03:26:47,320
Speaker 4: real best way that you can support me is to

4486
03:26:47,520 --> 03:26:50,000
Speaker 4: challenge yourself to be the best version of who you

4487
03:26:50,080 --> 03:26:50,800
Speaker 4: were called to be.

4488
03:26:51,200 --> 03:26:51,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

4489
03:26:52,320 --> 03:26:55,119
Speaker 4: And that being said, bro, none of this is scripted

4490
03:26:55,240 --> 03:26:57,520
Speaker 4: or playing. It's cool if I say the prayer right now,

4491
03:26:57,879 --> 03:27:03,320
Speaker 4: please please please believe that for the God. We come

4492
03:27:03,400 --> 03:27:06,160
Speaker 4: before you right now, knowing that we were all meant

4493
03:27:06,200 --> 03:27:09,560
Speaker 4: to be here. We are all your children, God, and

4494
03:27:09,720 --> 03:27:12,640
Speaker 4: your children all have a task that you've assigned to us.

4495
03:27:13,200 --> 03:27:16,600
Speaker 4: We can't find our purpose as the creation if we

4496
03:27:16,720 --> 03:27:20,320
Speaker 4: disconnected from the creator. You invented us, So we got

4497
03:27:20,400 --> 03:27:23,640
Speaker 4: to tap in with the inventor that's you. Lord. Bless

4498
03:27:23,720 --> 03:27:26,840
Speaker 4: us to self reflect and look within and ask what

4499
03:27:27,000 --> 03:27:28,040
Speaker 4: gifts have I been given?

4500
03:27:28,160 --> 03:27:31,480
Speaker 2: What passions do I have? What can I do to

4501
03:27:31,560 --> 03:27:32,800
Speaker 2: make this world a better place?

4502
03:27:34,240 --> 03:27:34,480
Speaker 4: Lord?

4503
03:27:34,520 --> 03:27:35,760
Speaker 2: When we self reflect and we.

4504
03:27:35,800 --> 03:27:38,240
Speaker 4: Block out the money, we block out the attention, We

4505
03:27:38,400 --> 03:27:41,080
Speaker 4: block out the doper mean, Lord, I feel like you

4506
03:27:41,120 --> 03:27:44,960
Speaker 4: can really speak to our hearts and humble us. Allow

4507
03:27:45,080 --> 03:27:47,080
Speaker 4: us to realize we're all on the same level, the

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03:27:47,200 --> 03:27:51,280
Speaker 4: same plateau. Lord, You've called us to be each other's

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Speaker 4: teammates in this thing called life. We don't wrestle against

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03:27:54,640 --> 03:27:58,160
Speaker 4: flesh and blood. Ain't no other wrap our ops, ain't

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Speaker 4: no other podcast holdsps.

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Speaker 1: You're me.

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Speaker 2: All the smoke now. We don't want all the smoke

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Speaker 2: with nobody. We want all the smoke with the.

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Speaker 4: Devil because it's evil spirits and principalities that work through people.

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Speaker 2: It ain't the people themselves that we had war with.

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Speaker 4: So Lord, humble us, Lord, allow us to cherish this town.

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Speaker 4: We don't know how long we got here on earth. Lord,

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Speaker 4: but I thank you for this exact moment. Thank you

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Speaker 4: for because Norie could changed my life. And I mean that. God,

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Speaker 4: you know I'm standing on that. And bless everybody that's

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Speaker 4: going to ever watch this so that they could strive

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Speaker 4: to be just a little better because of what they

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Speaker 4: experienced on this podcast. And I asked this profusely and

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Speaker 4: profoundly and passionately in your son Jesus name.

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Speaker 1: Amen, Amen.

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Speaker 2: Drops, Let's get it.

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Speaker 3: Drink Champs is a Drink Champs LLC production hosts and

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Speaker 3: executive producers n o r E and dj e f N.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us for another episode of Drink Champs

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Speaker 3: hosted by yours truly, dj EFN and n O r E.

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