1 00:00:01,280 --> 00:00:08,959 Speaker 1: It's that time. Time, time, time, luck and load. Michael 2 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Very Show is on the air. 3 00:00:11,320 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Ambassador, thank you for being here tonight. I mean, I 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:16,759 Speaker 2: just wonder, as someone who worked inside the West Wing 5 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,040 Speaker 2: when Donald Trump was president, what is it like for 6 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: you to see his mugshot tonight? 7 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 3: Well, I thought it was, as with most things Trump does, 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 3: carefully stage, they must have thought about what look they wanted. 9 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 3: He could have smiled, he could have looked benign. 10 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: Instead, he looks like a thug. 11 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 4: FBI agents have rated the Marrilynd home. A former Trump 12 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 4: National security advisor, John Bolton, happened at seven am this morning. 13 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 5: Shortly after the raid began. FBI Director Cash Fattel posting 14 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 5: on X quote, no one is above the law. FBI 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 5: agents on a mission. 16 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 6: But it is notable, guys that John Bolton, Ambassador bolton 17 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 6: security clearances were stripped earlier this year by President Trump. 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 6: Tulsey Gabber, the Director of National Intelligence, took that security 19 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 6: clearance away. 20 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 1: They had concerns. 21 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 6: The administration had concerns about Ambassador Bolton still being able 22 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:08,120 Speaker 6: to access some of these documents and have some of 23 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 6: those security clearances. It's also notable that John Bolton has 24 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,320 Speaker 6: a security detail as well, because of the threats from 25 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 6: Iran on his life. That security detail, that government, federal 26 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 6: paid security detail, was also taken away by President Trump. 27 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,119 Speaker 3: I think a lot of Republicans right now just wish 28 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 3: Cash Fattel, Tulsea Gabbard, and a number of other Trump 29 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 3: nominees would just go away. 30 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:33,640 Speaker 4: There was a probe going on when Prisident Trump was 31 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:36,399 Speaker 4: in office last time because John Bolden wrote a book 32 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:39,880 Speaker 4: and he violated his NDA, the President said in doing it, 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 4: and he felt as though there were classified information in 34 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 4: that book. The prob dropped when Joe Biden became president. 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 3: I don't think he cared about the classification system. I 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 3: don't think he appreciated the sensitivity of this information, and 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 3: he didn't appreciate the sensitivity of how it was often acquired, 38 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 3: the so called sources and method So this had been 39 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 3: brief to him before I arrived, it was repeated frequently. 40 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: I think it simply had no impact on him whatever. 41 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,519 Speaker 7: And giving a sense of where you think the truth 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 7: wise with respect to Trump's intelligence carelessness and the degree 43 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 7: which he might have brought motive to bear on taking 44 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:19,680 Speaker 7: these documents out of the way as of keeping them 45 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 7: for this long at Marlaga. 46 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 3: Well, it's very hard to speculate on motive other than 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:28,079 Speaker 3: that he liked cool things. He saw things that he 48 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:30,560 Speaker 3: so he wanted to take them, and he was pretty 49 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: much able to take them, and not just on classified 50 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 3: information matters, on all kinds of things that crossed his desk. 51 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 3: Some days he liked to eat a lot of French fries. 52 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 3: Some days he took classified documents. 53 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: He wanted them. Why did he want them? Because he 54 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: could get them. 55 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 8: That is the voice of John Bolton, who was very, 56 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 8: very eager to bring down Donald Trump. He failed, but 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 8: now his home and office had been raided. And the 58 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 8: story that is making the realms in DC and media 59 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 8: circles with relative credit credibility is that he was selling secrets. 60 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 8: The belief is through the kataris there's a photo that 61 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 8: has emerged of him in Doha very close to a 62 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 8: drop site and meeting site for the Katari government, a 63 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 8: government that has shown a willingness to pay big money 64 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 8: for American intelligence, and the allegation is that he was 65 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:33,839 Speaker 8: getting paid big money for selling America's intelligence. Remember, we've 66 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 8: got the best intelligence, presumably in the world, and it's 67 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,080 Speaker 8: worth a lot of money to countries rather than having, 68 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 8: rather than being able to accumulate it themselves, they just 69 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 8: buy hours by sellout. John Bolton, a serial butt sniffer, 70 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 8: registered sex offender with a long rap sheet, has been 71 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 8: arrested once again for another sniffing incident in the southern 72 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 8: California area. He was arrested for a similar incident last month. 73 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 8: The story from ABC seven in Los Angeles. 74 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 9: To a disturbing story of a registered sex offender who 75 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 9: has been arrested again. He made headlines for sniffing women 76 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 9: in the past. Thirty eight year old Calice Crutter was 77 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 9: rearrested Wednesday after reports of yet another sniffing incident at 78 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 9: a Walgreens at Burbank. This is video of prior incidents. 79 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 9: You can see him coming up behind that woman. Crowder 80 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 9: was already on parole and has a documented history of 81 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 9: similar arrests for lude conducting both Glendale and Burbank, dating 82 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:32,039 Speaker 9: back to twenty twenty one. 83 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 10: Looking at that pictures off. 84 00:04:35,680 --> 00:04:37,279 Speaker 1: But you were preaking me for a moment. 85 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 10: I don't think arresting a person was clear of mental 86 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,080 Speaker 10: health issues is the answer. Clearly, he needs a program 87 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 10: that's going to keep him. That's going to guide him 88 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 10: in a right direction. 89 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 9: And Crowder has been charged with a felony and is 90 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 9: now being held without bail. 91 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: Wonder how that guy votes? 92 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 8: He goes around sniffing people's butts, he gets arrested for 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 8: sniffing people's butts. 94 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 1: I mean, where do you go from there? How do 95 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: you fix that guy? You know? 96 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 8: You have to wonder he's got parents? Missus Jones, Yes, 97 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 8: it's his officer Smith lapd Oh, this isn't about Bobby. 98 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: Again, is it? I'm sorry, but it is. Did he 99 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 1: kill himself? No? Worse? 100 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 8: Did he get arrested again for sniffing people's butts? Man, 101 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 8: I'm sorry he did. Bond has said it fourteen dog bones. 102 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 8: If you could come down and bail him out, I mean, 103 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,600 Speaker 8: or maybe he's just misunderstood, maybe he identifies as a dog. 104 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 11: Order in the court State versus Barkie Sniffstein, Yes, sure, 105 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 11: my client Barkie here is ridiculed for simply being misunderstood. Misunderstood, counsel, 106 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,839 Speaker 11: your client is a serial butt sniffer. He's accused of 107 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:14,360 Speaker 11: literally walking up to people and sniffing their rear ends 108 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 11: without consent. 109 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:16,840 Speaker 1: Also, he's accused of. 110 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,799 Speaker 11: Public urination on a fire hydrant and pooping on a sidewalk. 111 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 11: Your client is disgusting, I judge, hear me out now, 112 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:26,799 Speaker 11: My client, Barky Sniffstein, is just doing what is natural 113 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 11: in his habitat. You see, my client identifies as a 114 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 11: knine aka a do Dear Lord, what might be disgusting 115 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 11: to you is just a normal reaction for Barkie here. 116 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 11: When you and I see a friend, a dear loved one, 117 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 11: we give them a hug. Barkiy here, well, he just 118 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 11: likes to give folks a little honey hello. 119 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: If anything, my client's a good boy. 120 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 11: I'm telling you it's time to stop being so rough 121 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 11: on my client. 122 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: You see what I did there, Dear God, this might 123 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: be the lowest point of my career. Sentences. 124 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 11: Barkie stays out of all dog parks for two years 125 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 11: and let's call it a slap on the no. 126 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: Was with a newspaper. What the hell is that? That's 127 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:06,520 Speaker 1: Black's family. Come on, guys, let's go celebrate to get 128 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:11,239 Speaker 1: some grooming. I'm moving to Texas. This is. 129 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 11: I don't know what's the name, you say, Michael Gouddy. 130 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: Chicago is a. 131 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 8: Self pool of crime and corruption. You know, Chicago is 132 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 8: one of the great American cities. It's been a long 133 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 8: time since people. 134 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Viewed it that way. 135 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 8: But Chicago was the marketplace of commodities. It was the 136 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 8: New York of commodities, actual commodities. Not only was it 137 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 8: the place where the exchange was held for that, it's 138 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 8: where companies were headquartered. It's where insurance companies were headquartered, 139 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 8: it's where industrial companies were headquartered. But it also in 140 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 8: the process became arrival to New York. Definitely the smaller 141 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 8: of the two in influence for comedy, for art, for restaurants, 142 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 8: for culture. It was a very important American city for 143 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 8: a long time, and then slowly but surely it fell 144 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 8: under the throes of corruption, and slowly but surely it 145 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 8: suffered before many of the others from racial problems, and 146 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 8: that continues to this day. So you ended up having 147 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 8: police forces that were known to be corrupt, who were 148 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,199 Speaker 8: dealing with a black crime problem, and the way they 149 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 8: were dealing with it was engendering a warlike mentality and 150 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 8: being unsuccessful at it. Successful at it for some period 151 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 8: of time, but using means that were highly criticized, which 152 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:11,439 Speaker 8: then led to political involvement in the enforcement of the 153 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 8: law to an extent that left the people being put 154 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 8: in charge of law enforcement seemingly in favor of crime, 155 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 8: making this a purely racial issue. Destroyed Chicago. White people 156 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 8: are bad people. There's a Jusy Smallllett movie video documentary 157 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 8: on Netflix which takes you through the Justy Smallllett case 158 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 8: and then at the end, almost like an ex like 159 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 8: a theatrical exercise, the documentary maker herself, I think she's English. 160 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 8: I forget where she's from. It's a white woman, but 161 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 8: I think she's from England, and she says, you know, 162 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 8: I thought he had done it too. I thought he 163 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,719 Speaker 8: had lied. I thought he'd made the whole thing up. 164 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 8: And then I discovered what did you discover? 165 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: Oh? 166 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:14,680 Speaker 8: I discovered that Jesse's next door neighbors said that she 167 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 8: believed he had been mugged, and this guard said that 168 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 8: he had been. 169 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: He said he also thought he. 170 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 8: Had been mugged a guard around the corner. Oh, so 171 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 8: we had two guys who came forward and said he 172 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 8: paid us to do this. How many times do you ever? 173 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,440 Speaker 8: Is it ever the case that when someone sets up 174 00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 8: a fake I'm going to get beat up and claim, 175 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 8: you know, it was the Ku Klux Klan that did it. 176 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 8: And then the two guys that he hired to pretend 177 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 8: to do it for the cameras get caught and come 178 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:51,840 Speaker 8: forward and. 179 00:10:51,840 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: Go, yeah, it was us, we did it. He paid us. 180 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 8: Here, here's where he paid us, and here's this and 181 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 8: here's how he did it. Oh and here's the video 182 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 8: of us buying all the things that he buying. The 183 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 8: little news not much of a news, but the news, 184 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 8: the little what's that material call? But anyway, it doesn't matter. 185 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 8: At the store a couple of days before that, I mean, 186 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 8: this is an open and shutcase. Boom jusse crocodile tears, Kamala. 187 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 8: Everybody's saying, oh, this is a horrible thing, that whole thing. 188 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 8: The police superintendent there, who happens to be black, he 189 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 8: says how upset he was that two white guys had 190 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 8: done this to a black guy in Chicago, because he 191 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 8: has family members from the South. It was clear from 192 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 8: his comments that it was far more troubling to him 193 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 8: if two white guys did this to a black guy 194 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,560 Speaker 8: than if two black guys did this to a white guy. 195 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:57,960 Speaker 8: And I'm going to tell you the vast majority. And 196 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,760 Speaker 8: when I say vast, I mean probably into the nineties. 197 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 8: When there is a person of one race beating up 198 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 8: a person of another race, not in a bar fight, 199 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 8: but just attacking them for the sake of attacking them 200 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 8: or to steal what they have that is black and white, 201 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 8: it's not going the other direction. You know the old 202 00:12:22,480 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 8: adage in journalism, dog bites man, we. 203 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 1: Don't cover it. Man bites dog front page. 204 00:12:30,640 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 8: If a white guy attacks a black guy, that makes 205 00:12:36,480 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 8: national news. And then we've got this whole industry of people, 206 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 8: the al Sharptons of today, Jesse Jackson, they all. 207 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: Come forward as if, oh. 208 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:50,000 Speaker 8: My god, we're back in the slave No, that doesn't happen. 209 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:56,080 Speaker 8: If it ever does happen, it's an outlier because the 210 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:59,320 Speaker 8: reality is every single day black people are attacking white 211 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 8: people every single day, all across the country, and we 212 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 8: all know it. 213 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 1: We got video of it, plenty of video. 214 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 8: Now, way more often than black people attacking white people 215 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 8: is black people attacking black people. And you remember what 216 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 8: Jesse Jackson said about all this, If. 217 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 12: A white killer black, you know, we re vote. If 218 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 12: a black kills the white is sal time we kill 219 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 12: each others mill of time. It's as if somebody has 220 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 12: the right to kill us. And so with the weak 221 00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:32,079 Speaker 12: link in the chain, if whites kill us, they get 222 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:34,920 Speaker 12: less time. We call kill us, then we get no time. 223 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 12: We must renew our commitment to stop the violence. 224 00:13:38,280 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: But why if it's black on black crime, is it 225 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 1: mill of time? 226 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 13: See? 227 00:13:42,080 --> 00:13:46,040 Speaker 8: The point is nobody cares who's black on black. You 228 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 8: can't blame that on the cops. That is the view 229 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 8: within the black community. So that's why it's interesting when 230 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 8: Mayor Brandon Johnson, the mayor of Chicago, was on MSNBC 231 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 8: and they said, hey, Trump wants to federalize Chicago, and 232 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 8: he freezes. 233 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to play something else. 234 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 3: President Trump said on Friday with regard to your city. 235 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 1: Chicago is a mess. You have an incompetent mayor, grossly incompetent. 236 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: And we'll straighten that one out probably next that'll be 237 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: our next one after this, and it won't even be tough. 238 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: Mark Johnson, Yes, your reaction to what you just heard, Yeah. 239 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 13: Yeah, Well listen, you know, the President of the United 240 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 13: States of America has repeated this, you know, petulant presentation 241 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 13: since he has assumed office. And you know, if the 242 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 13: reporting is actually true. What he is proposing at this 243 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 13: point would be the most flagrant violation of our constitution in. 244 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: The twenty first century. 245 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 13: The city of Chicago does not need a military occupation. 246 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 8: See see you know what I'm hearing here. Hey, if 247 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 8: we want to kill each other, the President. 248 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: Has no right to come in here and stop us 249 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: from it. 250 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 8: Now, they'll talk about crime and white people don't care, 251 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 8: and the President doesn't care. Republicans don't care when we 252 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 8: try to solve your problem, you don't want your problem. 253 00:15:14,520 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: Thoughts is Michael Ferry show enjoy it? 254 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 8: President Trump hosted the leader of South Korea at the 255 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 8: White House today and Ramona and I had to shut 256 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 8: down everything we were doing and just watch the interview 257 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:41,560 Speaker 8: live because we were imagining the translator trying to explain 258 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 8: to the South Korean president in real time what the 259 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 8: President had just said. And Trump is saying things like, yeah, 260 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 8: Biden's an idiot, I ain't a little rough around the edges. 261 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 8: It basically demented, you know, lost his mind. 262 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: He cuckoo. And I'm just. 263 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 8: Imagining what's the translation for so many of these idioms 264 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 8: and cliches and phrases that are not technical and official. 265 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 8: They're very conversational. But can you imagine that poor guy 266 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 8: having to translate this. Oh I love it, I absolutely 267 00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:27,880 Speaker 8: love it. So let's go back to President Trump and 268 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 8: Attorney General Bill Barr. This is a flashback to June fifteenth, 269 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 8: twenty twenty, and again I'm hitting on the John Bolton 270 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 8: stuff because I think this is very important. I think 271 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 8: we have had Republicans and their bureaucrats, their political appointments 272 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 8: who have been selling us out. And I think this 273 00:16:57,720 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 8: goes back at least to the nexton administration. Now, are 274 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 8: the Democrats doing it? Absolutely, But we expect that out 275 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 8: of the Democrats, right We expect that that Jimmy Carter's 276 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 8: brother was cutting deals with foreign interests, that he was 277 00:17:19,160 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 8: getting paid cash, he's a low life. We expect that 278 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 8: the that the Clinton Foundation was receiving hundreds of millions 279 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 8: of dollars. It's the most successful foundation of a former 280 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 8: president in American history by far. 281 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:40,480 Speaker 1: They made a fortune. 282 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 8: And by the way, I don't think Trump leaves office 283 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 8: with that stone unturned. 284 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 1: I think it's too. 285 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 8: Important to him, and I think Hillary was too involved 286 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 8: in the law fair against him, and I think there 287 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:58,119 Speaker 8: is too much. 288 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: Knows the Clintons very well. 289 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:08,160 Speaker 8: They were old friends, and I think Trump wants to 290 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 8: burn her on a level that is much bigger than 291 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 8: what he wants to burn Bolton. 292 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: But he does want to burn Bolton. 293 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 8: And I will tell you I think that you know 294 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 8: what I'm gonna save that We're gonna do a bonus 295 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 8: podcast today. 296 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 1: I'm gonna save that clip because it's a little longer. 297 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 8: Here is Aaron Burnett on CNN when the FBI raided 298 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 8: John Bolton's home. 299 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: She said, is this political payback? Let's listen to this 300 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 1: lat I guess let's just. 301 00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 5: Cut the bottom line on what's happened here. Do you 302 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,480 Speaker 5: believe that the raids on John Bolton's home and his 303 00:18:49,600 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 5: office are political payback? 304 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: All right? 305 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 8: Then let's go to Aaron Burnett, the same Aaron Burnett 306 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 8: when the FBI raided the Donald Trump's home known as 307 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 8: mar Alago, She didn't ask if that was political payback? 308 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: Breaking news. 309 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 5: We are learning that the FBI executed a search warrant 310 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 5: at former President Trump's mar A Lago and Palm Beach, Florida. 311 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: We also know that it. 312 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 5: Had turned out earlier right that the president had taken 313 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 5: a lot of documents that were marked as top secret 314 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 5: classified to mar A Lago that he shouldn't have. 315 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 8: Oh okay, so the FBI rated Trump's home, but they 316 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 8: had a good reason to. The FBI rated Bolton's home, 317 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,760 Speaker 8: and you don't state that they had a good reason to. 318 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 8: I wonder why. Flashback to twenty twenty three. John Bolton 319 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 8: was on CNN with Caitlin Collins and he is frightened 320 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:54,320 Speaker 8: that Trump is going to get elected because he knows 321 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 8: that Trump is going to expose that this is the allegation. 322 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 8: An allegation is that he has sold American secrets to 323 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 8: foreign interest, including cutter or guitar. So this is a 324 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 8: scared man right here using this kind of language. 325 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 2: Just wonder, as someone who worked inside the West Wing 326 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 2: when Donald Trump was president, what is it like for 327 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 2: you to see his mugshot tonight? 328 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: Well? I thought it was, as with most things Trump does, 329 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,199 Speaker 3: carefully stage. They must have thought about what look they wanted. 330 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 3: He could have smiled, he could have looked benign. Instead, 331 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:33,680 Speaker 3: he looks like a thug. And I think it's intended 332 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 3: to be a sign of intimidation against. 333 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: The prosecutors and judges. That's what they picked and we'll 334 00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: see that picture everywhere. 335 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: So you think they actually spent time deciding, you know, 336 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 2: should he smile in this? Should he have this scowl 337 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:49,400 Speaker 2: that he appears to have gone. 338 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 3: With almost as much time as they spent combing his hair. 339 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 2: What do you He posted the mugshot, you know, shortly 340 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: after on his own social media account, along with the 341 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: phrase never surrender. I mean, I've been ironic, given he 342 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 2: had actually just surrendered at the Fulton County jail behind me. 343 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: But how do you expect him to try to use. 344 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: This to his political advantage as he's running for president? 345 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 3: Well, I think in the same way he's used the 346 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 3: other three indictments. And I think the evidence is that 347 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 3: the indictments have proven the law of diminishing marginal utility. 348 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:26,920 Speaker 3: If anything, they're not undercutting his support, they're building it up. 349 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:31,159 Speaker 1: You know, there's an old adage a hit dog squeals. First. 350 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 8: Elon Musk said that one of the things he did 351 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 8: at DOGE when they first started was he said, tell 352 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 8: me five things you accomplished this week, and the federal employees, 353 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 8: it was said, if you did not respond, then you 354 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 8: were automatically fired. And he said that what he learned 355 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 8: from that was the same thing he had learned by 356 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 8: doing the same exact thing at companies he had bought 357 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 8: in the past. Employees who are productive don't mind such 358 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 8: an exercise. Employees who mail it in will panic. And 359 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 8: he said, what they really do is they raise a 360 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:30,439 Speaker 8: flag and say, I'm the problem over here. If you 361 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 8: struggle to state what productive things you accomplished this week, 362 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 8: then you're very likely a person who doesn't do much. 363 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 8: So rather than have to sift through every federal employee, 364 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 8: you simply wait and let them expose themselves. 365 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: It's his tactic when taking over. 366 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 8: You know, folks who do turnarounds, they buy troubled business, says, 367 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 8: and flip them around. One of the things one of 368 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 8: the first things they do is cut the dead weight, 369 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 8: Cut the toxic characters, cut the characters who don't come 370 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 8: in and don't do any work, but have a good 371 00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 8: way to gloss over and cover for that fact. Well, 372 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 8: that was Elon's way of doing it. And I think 373 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,400 Speaker 8: in this case, what we're seeing with John Bolton and 374 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 8: what we're seeing with frankly with with John Brennan, you know, 375 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 8: you notice Hillary Clinton's coming back out. John Brennan is 376 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:36,560 Speaker 8: on is on TV every evening. These are supposed to 377 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 8: be people who were retired and gone away. 378 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: They are so. 379 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:46,199 Speaker 8: Aggressively talking and you might think, well, if they're guilty, 380 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 8: they wouldn't talk. No, no, no, they have fooled people for 381 00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 8: so long. They are calling out the dogs. 382 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,160 Speaker 1: Guys, this is bad. 383 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 8: If they come for me, they're coming for you. They 384 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 8: are frightened. Shift is frightened. 385 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: From all Duck King of Dingan. 386 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 6: And this other guy, Michael Barry. 387 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:14,439 Speaker 8: Rob Demico is a former FBI special agent. He was 388 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 8: on MSNBC and he's supposed to say Trump is only 389 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 8: having Bolton's home and office raided as retribution for the 390 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 8: awful things they did to him, But he doesn't say that. 391 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,240 Speaker 1: He doesn't follow their script. 392 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 8: He says, if you supported the mare A Lago raid 393 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 8: to get documents as part of an investigation, you have 394 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 8: to support the Bolton raid. 395 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 14: I always go off for my first instinct when I 396 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 14: see a story on this one. I was excited. I thought, Wow, 397 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:54,399 Speaker 14: this is retribution, you know, they said they were going 398 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 14: to do that. But then I look at it and say, 399 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 14: wait a second, if you supported the Moro Lago raid 400 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 14: to try to get US by documents out that we're 401 00:25:01,560 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 14: trying to quietly gotten before and you kind of have 402 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 14: to support it in the administration or the then reopen investigation. 403 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 14: There's nothing wrong with that. It's intense and when you 404 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 14: look at the more loggo rate, there was a quiet 405 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 14: effort to get those documents back and they try to try. 406 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 14: So I would really, you know, want to understand was 407 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 14: that done here or was this the show? Was this 408 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 14: what they are said they're going to do, so they 409 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 14: want to come out and very openly say this is 410 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 14: what we're doing. You know, it's been put out on 411 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 14: X about not being above the loss. I would say 412 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 14: that it goes to intent, but that's kind of a 413 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 14: norm now all the cabinet officials are just going straight 414 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 14: to X when that wasn't done before. So I don't 415 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 14: know if you can separate it by that. But I 416 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 14: look at it as someone who's handled classified information, very 417 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 14: highly sensitive stuff, every single day, and I'm very careful 418 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 14: with it. When when I was in locations, I would 419 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 14: have notebooks that weren't technically classified, but you're taking notes 420 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 14: in the classified and environment, and they stayed in that 421 00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 14: location and I never brought him home. I never brought 422 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 14: him to one other location, and then I had to 423 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 14: burn them or shred them when I left there and 424 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,800 Speaker 14: couldn't bring them back, and I wouldn't want to look 425 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 14: at Are we talking about documents at a stamp that 426 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 14: he had in meetings that were openly classified or they 427 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 14: don't after a notebook, the notes on his books, notebooks 428 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 14: that he took into meetings, because that's actually a lot 429 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 14: harder to prove on the classify side when you take 430 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 14: it to the court. 431 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,760 Speaker 8: You will recall that it was then discovered that Biden 432 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 8: had documents in the warehouse where he keeps the corvette 433 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 8: that nobody can figure out how he pays for, and 434 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 8: Pence self reported, hey, I have some documents here, Come 435 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 8: and see. Intent is a very important part of American 436 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 8: and English jurisprudence. Anglo American jurisprudence. Intent is important because 437 00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:59,680 Speaker 8: you can accidentally do things. But when you can show 438 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 8: that someone had the intent to commit a crime, that 439 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 8: means they understand that what they did was criminal and 440 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:13,440 Speaker 8: they still did it. That's harder to prove. It's a 441 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:18,240 Speaker 8: much higher standard. But when you do prove that you 442 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,640 Speaker 8: got a bigger crime, it can be for some crimes 443 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,320 Speaker 8: a defense to say I didn't know this was a crime. 444 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 8: If you walk out of a tex Mex restaurant in Texas, 445 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 8: you can reasonably assume that if there are peppermints next 446 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:39,400 Speaker 8: to the door where you're exiting, and toothpicks, you can 447 00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 8: take one of each. It's a time honored tradition for 448 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 8: the entirety of my life, and maybe before that. When 449 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 8: you leave a tex Mex restaurant in Texas, you take 450 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 8: a toothpick and you clean out your teeth and get 451 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 8: in there and get all that's. 452 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: A good thing. 453 00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 8: You you just had lunch after church on Sunday. You 454 00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 8: get up in there and you dig around, you walk outside. 455 00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 8: If it's multiple generations of the family, you go, all right, 456 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 8: y'all going home from here. Well, y'all gonna take the key, Okay, 457 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 8: you you gonna ma'ma a. You're gonna take the kids 458 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 8: and I'll pick them up at four o'clock. Uh, all right, 459 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 8: I'm gonna go home watch the ball game. And I guess, 460 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 8: all right, so when I finished that, and then what 461 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 8: are y'all gonna do? And then you turn to each 462 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 8: member of the family and you coordinate all the plans, 463 00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 8: and while you pick your food out of your teeth. Okay, 464 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 8: all right, okay, all right, and then when that is done, 465 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 8: you kind of rub your belly. 466 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: He's good and full. When all that's done. 467 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 8: You throw the toothpick in the trash and you unwrap 468 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,640 Speaker 8: your your peppermint and you toss it in your mouth 469 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 8: on the drive home, and you've completed the proper text. 470 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 8: Max Meal, that's how that works. You've done that one 471 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 8: hundred times. If you live in Texas, you hunt, You've 472 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 8: done that one hundred times. On the one hundred and 473 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 8: first time. If you grab that pepper and you grab 474 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 8: that toothpick. But that restaurant charges for it. There's no 475 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 8: signage that says. 476 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:07,239 Speaker 1: They charge for it. 477 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 8: They just expect you if you take it, to come 478 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 8: back and they'll tell you what it costs. 479 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: You didn't have the intent to steal it. 480 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:19,000 Speaker 8: Because a reasonable person, the standard is known as the 481 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 8: reasonable person. A reasonable person, a reasonable restaurant patron would 482 00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 8: expect that it's free right now. In this case, there's 483 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 8: a higher standard for what a reasonable person is. John 484 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 8: Bolton is a national security expert. I don't like him, 485 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 8: but he would be held to that standard. He cannot 486 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 8: reasonably believe that he can take his legal pads, which 487 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 8: is the notes that he takes during the day from 488 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 8: what he learns from the other intelligence agencies, take those 489 00:29:55,960 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 8: home and use that to write a book that's not allowed. 490 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: So what he's doing. 491 00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 8: What he's doing is that he is selling our secrets, 492 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 8: both in his books and to foreign governments. 493 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 1: That's the allegation. Now let's talk about who John Bolton is. 494 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 8: Precisely six' twelve and this goes back to two twelve 495 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 8: to twenty twenty. Two this Is John bolton ON cnn 496 00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 8: With Jake tapper talking about the fact that he plans 497 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 8: coupdaitas that he plans to topple other. 498 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,840 Speaker 1: GOVERNMENTS i don't know THAT i agree with. 499 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,719 Speaker 3: You to be to be, fair with all due, respect 500 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 3: one doesn't have to be brilliant to attempt a. 501 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: COOP i disagree with. 502 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: That as somebody who has helped Plan kupdeta not, here 503 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: but you know other. 504 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,200 Speaker 1: Places it takes a lot of, work and that's not 505 00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:53,520 Speaker 1: what he. 506 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 3: Did it was just stumbling around from one idea to. 507 00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 3: Another ultimately he did unleash the rioters at the. 508 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 1: Capital as to, that there's no, Doubt SO i will 509 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: leave you with this great little. 510 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 8: Bit this is twenty twenty Three John bolton ON msnbc, 511 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 8: Saying trump like's cool, Things SO i took. 512 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 1: Him, well h guess who's getting revenge. 513 00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: Now BUT i don't think he cared about the classification. 514 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 3: SYSTEM i don't think he appreciated the sensitivity of this, 515 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 3: information and he didn't appreciate the sensitivity of how it 516 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 3: was often acquired the so called sources and. Methods so 517 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 3: this had been brief to him BEFORE i, arrived it 518 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 3: was repeated. FREQUENTLY i think it simply had no impact on. Him. 519 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 7: Whatever there's a couple of different ways that people think about, 520 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 7: this and people who are not friendly to the president 521 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,400 Speaker 7: who think about what's happened, here and one of them, 522 00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 7: is you, Know Donald, trump master, thief you, know criminal 523 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,280 Speaker 7: running the kind of elaborate conspiracy to bring things out 524 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,840 Speaker 7: of The White house and keep him secret for potentially 525 00:31:57,920 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 7: for political or financial. Gain there are other people who 526 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 7: added this attitude As trump is, chaotic he's, careless he's 527 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 7: not that, Smart he just he Wants he took these 528 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:09,320 Speaker 7: things almost by, mistake and now he's basically stamping. 529 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: His feet and saying their. 530 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 7: MIND i don't want to give them. Up give me 531 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 7: a sense of where you think the truth lies with 532 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 7: respect To trump's intelligence carelessness and the degree which he 533 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 7: might have brought motive to bear on taking these documents 534 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 7: out of the way as of keeping them for this. 535 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 3: Long and Mar, laga, well it's very hard to speculate 536 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 3: on motive other than that he liked cool. Things he 537 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 3: saw things that he so he wanted to take, them 538 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 3: and he was pretty much able to take, them and 539 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:41,760 Speaker 3: not just unclassified information, matters on all kinds of things 540 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 3: that crossed his. Desk some days he liked to eat 541 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,240 Speaker 3: a lot Of french. Fries some days he took classified. 542 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 3: Documents he wanted. Them why did he want? Them because 543 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 3: he could get? Them thank you and good. 544 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 4: Night