WEBVTT - Twots Take BravoCon 2025 (Tamra Judge and Alexis Bellino)

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<v Speaker 1>Two teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey guys, welcome to to Teas and a Pop with

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<v Speaker 2>myself Tamra Judge and today I have from Vegas Live

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<v Speaker 2>Baby Bravo con the one, the one and only Alexis Jansen.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're gonna say Jesus No, I'm not calling you

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<v Speaker 2>Jesus Jugs anymore. You're now your new name is Jansen Jugs.

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<v Speaker 3>They're smaller, went bigger, I went smaller. Yeah, so I got.

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<v Speaker 2>Implants put in, but they're very tiny. They're only one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and fifty ccs. But I went bigger and you

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<v Speaker 2>went smaller.

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<v Speaker 3>I went half, Yeah, you went half.

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<v Speaker 2>So how's married life so far?

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<v Speaker 3>My gosh, I can't even.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's always stressors with when you have six kids.

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<v Speaker 1>There's always somebody that's got some crisis or.

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<v Speaker 3>This or that. But it is it is, so, it

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<v Speaker 3>is different.

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<v Speaker 2>I told you this a modern day Brady Bunch.

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<v Speaker 3>We are. You have three boys and three girls. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>the Brady Bunch.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's talk about like we I had you in

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<v Speaker 2>the podcast a little while ago, a couple of what

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<v Speaker 2>maybe three weeks ago or so, and we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>the wedding and all that stuff. So now you guys

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<v Speaker 2>have been married for what a month.

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<v Speaker 3>And a couple of weeks or okay, so six weeks?

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<v Speaker 2>And so what are the living arrangements? Are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to stay in your house?

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<v Speaker 1>We you know, it's really weird because we might sell

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<v Speaker 1>my house. We don't really know. We're really figuring it

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<v Speaker 1>out as we go. We're definitely keeping the house on

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<v Speaker 1>the water because we have the boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, we have to have the house, even as Shannon

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<v Speaker 2>used to be in that house.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh honey, we changed it all.

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<v Speaker 2>You staged.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh honey, it's done.

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<v Speaker 2>You stage that shit.

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<v Speaker 3>L It's it's moved. It's done.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you need to redecorate, new sheets, new everything, new mattress.

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<v Speaker 1>New bed pillows, everything, everything, but the kids love it.

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<v Speaker 2>New ring cameras, no ring cameras, the same.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, by the way, it's right there

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<v Speaker 1>when you walk in, So it's not like anyone's exclude different.

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<v Speaker 2>Don't seen not punching?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, you're going The other morning I walked out.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, John wasn't the one punching.

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<v Speaker 1>No it at all.

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<v Speaker 3>Make that Claire, I walked out.

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<v Speaker 1>The other morning completely naked because I just got on

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<v Speaker 1>the shower and his his house is small, it's small.

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<v Speaker 4>Careful, he's going to keep that footage.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes.

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<v Speaker 3>He goes, Babe, I got footage, and I went like that, now,

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<v Speaker 3>yes you do.

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<v Speaker 2>You just got to Bravo Khan. Yeah, and I heard

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<v Speaker 2>you ran into Shannon.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how this gets back so fast.

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<v Speaker 4>Spencer got here before you. You're your your guy, and

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<v Speaker 4>so he told me. He's like, oh my god, we're walking.

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<v Speaker 1>You should have seen her face when she walked out

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<v Speaker 1>of a room.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have my escort taking me and Spencer to

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<v Speaker 3>my room.

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<v Speaker 2>Escort sounds really weird. I don't think you should use

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<v Speaker 2>that word.

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<v Speaker 3>Change there. I don't know what handler hand. Okay, that

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<v Speaker 3>sounds even weirder.

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<v Speaker 2>Escort sounds a little weird and vague's okay, baby, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>just throwing that out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's just say the very amazing person in the four

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<v Speaker 1>seasons collared shirt was walking me to my room.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. And so anyway, she.

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<v Speaker 1>Walks out, she gives this really bizarre like like look,

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<v Speaker 1>and then the elevators right there, and I realized who

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like Oh, that's gonna be really weird on the

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<v Speaker 1>elevator with her.

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<v Speaker 3>So we we hung back and okay, I could have

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<v Speaker 3>You know, when I said to Spencer, I said, why

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<v Speaker 3>do I do that? Why? Why is it weird?

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<v Speaker 2>By the way, I would do the same, would you

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<v Speaker 2>would you?

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<v Speaker 3>Wait? I wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 2>I am not getting in an elevator with Shannon, but door.

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<v Speaker 1>I almost honestly afterwards, I thought I looked at him.

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<v Speaker 2>Shannon be bore is what I call her. Be bore?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, by the way, you know how she came

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<v Speaker 2>after you for rehearsing. There's a door, Shannon door. Do

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<v Speaker 2>you think she rehearsed with Archie Tamra Grudge?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only that.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing, Tamara, You've had me on the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>enough times now to know that weird things come out

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<v Speaker 1>of my mouth that I don't even think about. They

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<v Speaker 1>just know they come out. Cookie Sometimes I'm Cookie, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't. I don't sit in the mirror and practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I practice my poses for Red car make sure

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<v Speaker 1>my stomach's in in a certain dress or gown. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>But I don't practice lines.

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<v Speaker 3>If they just whatever comes out comes out.

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<v Speaker 2>How long do you think she And here's the ironic

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<v Speaker 2>thing is I don't hold a grudge. I try to

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<v Speaker 2>make up.

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<v Speaker 3>You're the one that doesn't. To be honest, I know

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<v Speaker 3>you're the one that wants We're.

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<v Speaker 4>Still talking about David. Fuck John Janssen. She's still talking

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<v Speaker 4>about David. Okay, now that's a grudge. Okay, okay, talking

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<v Speaker 4>about gudge.

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<v Speaker 3>Please hold on.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we wish her well. I do, but please God

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<v Speaker 2>bless her.

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<v Speaker 3>I do wish her well. I do, I truly do.

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<v Speaker 1>And from the bottom of my heart, please talk about David,

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<v Speaker 1>your husband of decades, and that you have children with me,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about my husband who was on and off boyfriend

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<v Speaker 1>for a few years of your life, that I've now

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<v Speaker 1>been almost longer with and also am married.

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<v Speaker 2>Well too, John jans about a bad rap because her.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're going to move on. But it's okay from that,

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<v Speaker 2>But we were talking about grudges. We bear our grudge

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<v Speaker 2>two years ago at Bravo con and we've been kind

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<v Speaker 2>of inseparable since then.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I no one gets it, Tam, No one

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<v Speaker 1>gets what that felt like in that room. Andy Cohen

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<v Speaker 1>was there, He probably felt the love.

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<v Speaker 2>He was crying tears.

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<v Speaker 1>We all were having tears, and it was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was one of those moments where you and I have

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<v Speaker 1>grown so much from what we were a.

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<v Speaker 2>Decade or both in marriages that we got out of.

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<v Speaker 3>There was just a lot of there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>other stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Just so here's the thing we grew. We grew. Could

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<v Speaker 2>you imagine if I went you came back last year

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<v Speaker 2>and all we talked about is this shit that happened

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<v Speaker 2>between me and you fifteen years ago? Could you, like,

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<v Speaker 2>first of all, who freaking remembers that shit?

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<v Speaker 4>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, otherwise it still bother anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, it's like, whatever happened, look at how fast we squashed.

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<v Speaker 3>Look at how fast we squashed the beef. We had

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of shit. You threw me out of your gym.

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<v Speaker 3>You were like, get out of here.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it exact.

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<v Speaker 3>I thought you were going to hit me. I went

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<v Speaker 3>home that night.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't hit anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>I went home to my then husband and I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're husband's in now, but anyway, I went

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<v Speaker 1>home to Jim and I said, I literally thought she

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<v Speaker 1>was going to hit me, and I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>take it, but I was going to hit her right back.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. If you threw that much TV, can you

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<v Speaker 3>throw a punch at me? Girlfriend, I am going to

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<v Speaker 3>hit you back, and I was.

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<v Speaker 2>I would never hit you xanax Lydia.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing, if you and I can get over this.

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<v Speaker 1>Question, is were you really taking xanax? I took one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was I because I took.

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<v Speaker 2>Sanax this year and drank and didn't go over very well.

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<v Speaker 3>I only took like he told.

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<v Speaker 1>The doctor told me to take half of one, so

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<v Speaker 1>I took a quarter because I don't take prescription anything.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even take advill.

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<v Speaker 2>I took it that night, or you took it.

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<v Speaker 1>You have taken all the stress of you, Tamra grudge

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<v Speaker 1>of all.

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<v Speaker 3>The stress of you. I was. I took oxanic.

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<v Speaker 1>I told Jim, I am I need and so our

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<v Speaker 1>doctor gave me great.

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<v Speaker 2>Not only am I a leaker.

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<v Speaker 4>Of storyline, you're a am a cyber hacker.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I cause people to take xanax.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, my reputation met her by the second.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's Teddy? Where's Teddy? When you need her?

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<v Speaker 3>She's on the way. She's on the way.

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<v Speaker 1>No, but you like the stress you and I were having,

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<v Speaker 1>and just the whole all of it was coming to

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<v Speaker 1>a lot become a lot for me.

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<v Speaker 3>So I took He said take a half. I took

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<v Speaker 3>a quarter. I woke up that night like straight up

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<v Speaker 3>in bed. I'm like, I could never take this stuff again.

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<v Speaker 3>It did the opposite for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It made me feel like I was I don't even know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it was laced with something else.

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<v Speaker 3>I did have to take it because of you. It's

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<v Speaker 3>just the show. Great.

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<v Speaker 2>I can see the headlines now, but look how we

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<v Speaker 2>made up. But I had to get you medicated first.

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<v Speaker 4>Only one time I was your your did situation.

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<v Speaker 2>You had to take some little bit.

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<v Speaker 3>Of Okay, well, I don't blame you, know, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't blame for everything you do. I do. I'm Cara.

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<v Speaker 2>If this season is not good, it's Tamra. If the

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<v Speaker 2>season's great, it's still Tarma's fault.

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<v Speaker 3>It's great.

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<v Speaker 2>It's crazy, right.

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<v Speaker 3>So I really that has bothered me this.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you can't talk about it because you're still

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<v Speaker 1>filming or like it hasn't comp there, but it has

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<v Speaker 1>bothered me.

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<v Speaker 3>It does.

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<v Speaker 2>It bothers me too. Well, everybody turn their back, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know. So let's talk about last season a little bit, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>any regrets, any thoughts if you had to do it

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<v Speaker 2>over again, would you any problem with the edit? I

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<v Speaker 2>know you're going to be interviewing Alex Baskin.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well are you even supposed to give that information?

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<v Speaker 3>I can give it team in the back.

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<v Speaker 2>Room, I think so. Yes. So I hear that you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be interviewing Alex Baskin. So, guys, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to let you know that that Alexis is here with

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<v Speaker 2>iHeart with to teas in a pod because I can't

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<v Speaker 2>be here every single day with Teddy, and Teddy's got

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<v Speaker 2>some obligations here as well. At Bravo Kahn Alexis Billin

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<v Speaker 2>Billino Jansen or I don't know what to say.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to.

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<v Speaker 2>Trust me.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you this last time we talked. It is

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<v Speaker 1>kind of going through what you went through with Eddie.

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<v Speaker 1>I am Alexis Jansen on the marriage certificate.

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<v Speaker 2>That took me three years. Say, he reminds me all

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<v Speaker 2>the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, and so when I'm getting my room and my

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<v Speaker 1>license still, says Billino, I am Alexis Jansen.

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<v Speaker 2>And can I give you some advice?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>When your year twins are still in high school, Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>when they graduate high school is the time for you

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<v Speaker 2>to change your name. It's easier because it's easier because

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<v Speaker 2>when you have a different name than your children in

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<v Speaker 2>high school, it just makes things weird. Yeah, so that

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<v Speaker 2>that's my suggestion is just to wait.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that you Honestly, I'm not in a

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<v Speaker 1>rush because I did do it on the marriage certificate.

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<v Speaker 1>So when we get our marriage license, it is going

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<v Speaker 1>to say Alexis Janson.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I am.

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<v Speaker 2>When you see when you said marriage certificate, first thing

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<v Speaker 2>came to my I was marriage boot Camp and I

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<v Speaker 2>don't ever want to see you on that show again. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I just want to tell you that, Well.

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<v Speaker 3>That was with my mom. What's wrong with that?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it? Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>It was with your mom?

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<v Speaker 2>With what was your ex?

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<v Speaker 1>It was called marriage boot Camp family addition, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was who in your family do you have the strife

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<v Speaker 1>with that you need to mend things?

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<v Speaker 3>Tamra. This is gonna make you cry. So I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>gonna go deep. I don't want to. I don't I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not gonna cry. We're not gonna cry. This is a

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<v Speaker 3>fun We're at Bravo.

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<v Speaker 2>This is past now.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>So you realized she.

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<v Speaker 1>We spent eighteen days in that Marriage boot Camp house

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<v Speaker 1>with she didn't like your ex Corey Feldman. Well that

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't it, but yeah, anyway, she Corey Feldman and his

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<v Speaker 1>brother Eden and yeah, and then his ex wife Corey's

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<v Speaker 1>ex wife, and then Aaron Carter rest his mom Jane,

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<v Speaker 1>and then Lauren Govan and her two parents who are

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<v Speaker 1>amazingly exceptional people, and then my mom and myself. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was all about working through family challenge stuff. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I had the best experience on that. It was eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>straight days.

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<v Speaker 2>The way made you have a light detector test?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes?

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<v Speaker 2>Was it the same guy?

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<v Speaker 3>No? It was not.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that Gretchen. We did a light detector test

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<v Speaker 2>this season, as you know, and it's the same guy

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<v Speaker 2>that when she was on Marriage boot Camp that did

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<v Speaker 2>the light detector. And then when she did it, she

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<v Speaker 2>said in her confessional, I've never done one before and

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<v Speaker 2>it was the same guy.

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<v Speaker 3>How could she say she's not done it because she's on.

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<v Speaker 1>Just in case if it's on national television, that you've

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<v Speaker 1>done it on a dinner pinocchio.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So did you get that out?

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<v Speaker 3>Do you feel?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel so much better?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So I feel so much better now. Sorry, sorry

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<v Speaker 2>audio guys. So what I want to say is, let's

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<v Speaker 2>talk a little bit about last season. So last season

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<v Speaker 2>was rough for you, and I felt like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>when it comes to editing, you got a rough to

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<v Speaker 2>edit because there are so many scenes that we did do.

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<v Speaker 3>You called me every night, We cried together, You cried

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<v Speaker 3>for me, You cried for me.

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<v Speaker 2>We cried during filming. Which things they didn't see. It

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<v Speaker 2>was only you know about Channon and John right who

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<v Speaker 2>you are now married to, and and then it was

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of stuff that you know, we talked about

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<v Speaker 2>your mom and the stuff that you went through.

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<v Speaker 3>Just never watch on your kids. We talked about.

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<v Speaker 2>Sick and your children and your divorce and all these things.

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<v Speaker 2>It was never shown.

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<v Speaker 3>So I felt like for.

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<v Speaker 2>People out there that didn't see the full Alexis and

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<v Speaker 2>they saw what they saw, like, what do you what

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<v Speaker 2>do you say to them? Now?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? I feel like everything happens for a reason,

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<v Speaker 1>did I Okay, so picture this, you just lose your mom?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay?

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<v Speaker 1>Five months before, three months before filming, August started filming

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<v Speaker 1>December or January whatever that was. So a few months

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<v Speaker 1>before we started filming, and you know my phone calls

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<v Speaker 1>to you. I said, I don't think I can do it.

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<v Speaker 3>Tom. I don't know if I have the energy, the strength.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm one talking into signing the contract yes and so,

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<v Speaker 5>and then I also have to break up with my

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<v Speaker 5>fiance at the time that I knew just was not right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not right to be with someone who's not there

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<v Speaker 1>at your darkest hour. So I lost so much after

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<v Speaker 1>already getting a divorce from my father's the children, the

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<v Speaker 1>father of my children, and then go straight into filming

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<v Speaker 1>after all of these other things have transpired. I was

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<v Speaker 1>literally on my knees even more, and I kept saying,

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<v Speaker 1>to God, why did you do this to me.

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<v Speaker 3>After knowing how low I already was. But you know

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<v Speaker 3>what it did, Tam.

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why I say, what what doesn't kill

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<v Speaker 1>you makes you stronger? That song is so true, Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you killing Clerksland Clarkson. But I got stronger from it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was like I believe it was meant to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. I don't have the clear picture,

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<v Speaker 1>but what I would say to everybody is you are

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<v Speaker 1>hearing more of who alexis really is now than the

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<v Speaker 1>pod on all the Pods on Carlos.

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<v Speaker 2>So you co host with Carlos, you recap Orange County.

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<v Speaker 2>You're so good with Carlos.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and I think you're funny.

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<v Speaker 2>I think your point across, by the way, he is amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Carlos is absolutely amazing. But I feel like you guys

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<v Speaker 2>together are really good, really really good. Someone said, but

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<v Speaker 2>there's a lot of headlines now that you're on too.

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<v Speaker 1>One of the one of the people at your part,

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<v Speaker 1>your party that was amazing. Sorry, we just took had

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<v Speaker 1>the party a week ago for you know, Tamaron or yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Tamar and Katie through.

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<v Speaker 2>Katie actually through the party. I know you, but you you.

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<v Speaker 3>Still were a co host, Yeah, our host.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, one of them said, you guys are like

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<v Speaker 1>the modern day Kelly and Regis, And I'm like, my god,

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<v Speaker 1>we are so not because we are not doing the news,

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<v Speaker 1>we are doing reality TV.

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<v Speaker 3>Like I don't know, I don't I'm just following where

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<v Speaker 3>I thought.

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<v Speaker 2>That you have a natural talent for podcasting. I really do.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're doing an amazing job.

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<v Speaker 3>I have fun with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and as much as I want you back on

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<v Speaker 2>the show in different circumstances because I could use a

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<v Speaker 2>really good friend on the show. And I feel like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I tell Eddie this all the time, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to get like teary eyed, but you

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<v Speaker 2>check on me and you tell me you love me,

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<v Speaker 2>and here I like, I feel like I have your heart,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean? Like there's not a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of friends that you feel like have your back. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know everything that went down.

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<v Speaker 3>Last year, No I understand.

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't turn my back on you. I did not

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<v Speaker 2>know when in my back.

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<v Speaker 3>No one understands.

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<v Speaker 1>And I want to say this to all the listeners

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<v Speaker 1>right now, the all the to tease listeners. Every castmate

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<v Speaker 1>turned their back on me last season because of how

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<v Speaker 1>much hatter I was getting and I had to shut

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<v Speaker 1>off you know, my my Instagram, And then when I'd

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<v Speaker 1>go out and meet them for coffee, no one would

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<v Speaker 1>want to take a picture.

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<v Speaker 3>No one wanted to post it.

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<v Speaker 1>You posted on my birthday when I'm at the darkest

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<v Speaker 1>time of turning off into getting death threats. John and

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<v Speaker 1>I the most horrible human you've ever met, because we

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<v Speaker 1>fell in love when nobody, neither of us were with

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<v Speaker 1>anyone else.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, you did not turn your back on me

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<v Speaker 3>and I.

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<v Speaker 1>I so look back at all of that and think,

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<v Speaker 1>plus what all the time we just cried about how

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<v Speaker 1>the show was getting edited. At the moment, I know

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<v Speaker 1>that words not nobody likes. Okay, so how we were

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<v Speaker 1>being portrayed is what we should say. Yeah, so because

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<v Speaker 1>you do it is true.

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<v Speaker 3>What you do say is what you say. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>fake them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but a lot of times things aren't shown, so

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<v Speaker 2>you know how it's portrayed. So people are like, why

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<v Speaker 2>are you so hard on Shannon, Well, because of the

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<v Speaker 2>stuff that I found and she was doing behind my back.

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<v Speaker 2>So did they ever show any that. No, So there

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't like it just came out of left field, like

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<v Speaker 2>I was there until I wasn't right, you know. And

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<v Speaker 2>it had nothing to do with being friends with you

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<v Speaker 2>or you know I can balance friends.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not that person that says I'm your friend and

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<v Speaker 2>you're my friend if you like her. If you like her,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna like you.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know how I can vouch for that is because

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<v Speaker 1>you were in the middle of me and Jen being

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<v Speaker 1>good friends and knowing how much I was talking to Jen,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm like, yeah, we just left. I was just

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<v Speaker 1>left coffee with gen If. One of the times you

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<v Speaker 1>called me, I'd literally just gotten in my car. You

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<v Speaker 1>did not say one word about it. You were like, oh, okay, cool, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the next time we can all go to

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<v Speaker 1>dinner or whatever? We talked about that day. And it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like you did not have this. You weren't dictating

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<v Speaker 1>any No, I wasn't dictating. I'm not that person.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also told you over and over again, your

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<v Speaker 2>experience with Jen is your experience, and you might see

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<v Speaker 2>things that I already know you might not I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>but you have to go through the experience.

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<v Speaker 3>And I told you, I said, where do you stand

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<v Speaker 3>with jan?

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>No one's going to tell me who to be friends

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<v Speaker 3>with you. No one's going to anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you that right now. She got her

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<v Speaker 2>own opinion. Well, I'm still where do you stand with Jen?

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<v Speaker 2>Right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean we're we're still we're still working through it all.

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<v Speaker 1>We haven't had the talk of are you texting?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>We have. I mean, this is what sucks is that

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of don't want to go deep about it

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<v Speaker 1>because we're still trying to work through it, and we haven't.

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<v Speaker 3>We've missed each other.

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<v Speaker 1>We both called yesterday even just to talk about things,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like we're both getting ready for Brava Khan.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a crisis at work. I have kids that

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<v Speaker 3>had need things. She has five kids. Dawson's in town.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like, it's like, it's it's not that.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I can just give you this and we

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<v Speaker 2>can end on this. I think that Jena is a

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<v Speaker 2>good person, but I think Jenna is a people pleaser,

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<v Speaker 2>and a lot of times when you're people pleaser, you

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<v Speaker 2>step on your own shit. So when you're telling one

0:18:34.040 --> 0:18:35.800
<v Speaker 2>person what they want to hear, and then you're telling

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<v Speaker 2>another person what they want to hear, and then telling

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<v Speaker 2>the other person what they want to hear, it causes problems.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes that's your saying camera that a friend of all

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<v Speaker 1>is a friend of none.

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<v Speaker 2>None, And that's where I'm problem with her, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>where sometimes their stories get a little like forgetful.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I all I know is that you've allowed me

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<v Speaker 1>the space to have my friendship with her, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so thankful for that because that's also why we're so close,

0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.120
<v Speaker 1>Because you don't bring her up to me. I mean,

0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.320
<v Speaker 1>we're doing it now because we're talking about the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, people don't get it that we have to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this on a podcast. This is something that's today.

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about today. But You've allowed me the space

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<v Speaker 1>to have my friendship with her, and I'm thankful for that.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm also thankful that like Jen isn't I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>she hasn't been horrible to me. She's she's I'm I'm

0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:28.200
<v Speaker 1>still figuring things out. I'm trying to work through it, but.

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<v Speaker 2>She's and I'm hoping to work through things with her good.

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<v Speaker 3>And I wish just like I'm so excited about you

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<v Speaker 3>and Vicki, by the way, let's talk about that. Oh good, Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>So Vicki is going to be kind of a Max.

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<v Speaker 2>So Vicky and I, you know, we're like sisters. We fight,

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<v Speaker 2>we we get mad.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, you need to talk for like a frickin year

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<v Speaker 3>or so.

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<v Speaker 2>That's for a year. But you know what that was, Shannon,

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<v Speaker 2>that's because of Shannon. Shannatorships.

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<v Speaker 3>Shannon does that dictatorships don't work.

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<v Speaker 2>She's yeah, exactly. She doesn't want to send people to

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<v Speaker 2>be friends. And I think that, you know, you know

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<v Speaker 2>something was brought up on the reunion about you know,

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<v Speaker 2>Shannon recording Vicky while Shannon while Vicky was actually taking

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<v Speaker 2>care of her, and you said, and I told you,

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<v Speaker 2>and You're like, yeah, I know all about it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got the text messages. She was texting John too

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<v Speaker 2>when this is happening and sending him audio. So I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not the crazy one.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not the bad one.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because I don't want to gets off with everything

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know how. I don't want to be in

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<v Speaker 3>the thick of all of this because I'm removed.

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<v Speaker 2>You're above it.

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<v Speaker 3>I know I'm not above anything. I'm not too good

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<v Speaker 3>or above any Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If you talk about Shannon, oh, you're obsessed. If you

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<v Speaker 2>get asked about Shannon and you answer it.

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<v Speaker 3>Stop talking about her. Notice that.

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<v Speaker 1>Notice that every time that lady brought up my name,

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<v Speaker 1>we weren't even in the equation.

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<v Speaker 3>She talked about you and the whole season, all season,

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<v Speaker 3>the whole season.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would always I would because I have to

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<v Speaker 1>recap it with Carlos and do it. And I'm like

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<v Speaker 1>I look back and I'm like, I it wasn't like

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<v Speaker 1>someone said, oh about Alexis. It was just it came

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<v Speaker 1>out of her mouth like she just so, who's the

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed one?

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<v Speaker 2>And Alexis, I want to say, like there was times

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<v Speaker 2>where I would because I had a really hard season

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<v Speaker 2>and talking about taking xanax, you know, with Teddy diagnosed

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<v Speaker 2>and people.

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<v Speaker 3>Just so you guys know, I was on the other

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<v Speaker 3>phone and end of the fo.

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<v Speaker 2>With her, and I would tell you like, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 2>to make up with this girl and she doesn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to make up. And you're like, you know, or she

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<v Speaker 2>did this to me today and you're like, Okay, Tamara,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, you need to really think about this,

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<v Speaker 2>Like you never put her down to me, you never

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<v Speaker 2>thought like I took that branch. No, You're like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, Okay, let's think about this, Let's do what's

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<v Speaker 2>best for you, and let's do I mean, at the

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<v Speaker 2>end of the day, everyone jay bitches and so you

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<v Speaker 2>have to have friendships, but you also have to, like

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<v Speaker 2>you've got to think sometimes you have to put emotions aside.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're a reality TV person, you have to put

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<v Speaker 2>emotions aside and go. It's getting harder for me as

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<v Speaker 2>I get older.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's it was harder for me to you

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<v Speaker 1>should today because I'm another year older.

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<v Speaker 2>No, it was notice he's such a door. It was

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<v Speaker 2>hard for me to pack today. I'm here, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>about emotions. It's hard for me as I get older.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, it's hard for me to pack today. This

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<v Speaker 2>is the stuff that I put up with with Alexis Jansen.

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<v Speaker 2>Bay Guys, thank you so much for tuning in. We

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<v Speaker 2>are at Bravo Con. It is Thursday night and I

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<v Speaker 2>am going to watch What Happens to Night and you

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<v Speaker 2>are going to hold down the ford here with Teddy.

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna do some interviews. Super excited about this. You're

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<v Speaker 2>going to be here for the weekend. And I thank

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<v Speaker 2>you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Love you, I love you. Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi