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Speaker 1: Two teas in a pod which Teddy Mellencamp and Camra Judge.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, welcome to to Teas and a Pop with

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Speaker 2: myself Tamra Judge and today I have from Vegas Live

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Speaker 2: Baby Bravo con the one, the one and only Alexis Jansen.

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Speaker 2: Oh you're gonna say Jesus No, I'm not calling you

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Speaker 2: Jesus Jugs anymore. You're now your new name is Jansen Jugs.

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Speaker 3: They're smaller, went bigger, I went smaller. Yeah, so I got.

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Speaker 2: Implants put in, but they're very tiny. They're only one

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Speaker 2: hundred and fifty ccs. But I went bigger and you

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Speaker 2: went smaller.

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Speaker 3: I went half, Yeah, you went half.

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Speaker 2: So how's married life so far?

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Speaker 3: My gosh, I can't even.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's always stressors with when you have six kids.

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Speaker 1: There's always somebody that's got some crisis or.

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Speaker 3: This or that. But it is it is, so, it

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Speaker 3: is different.

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Speaker 2: I told you this a modern day Brady Bunch.

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Speaker 3: We are. You have three boys and three girls. Okay,

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Speaker 3: the Brady Bunch.

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Speaker 2: So let's talk about like we I had you in

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Speaker 2: the podcast a little while ago, a couple of what

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Speaker 2: maybe three weeks ago or so, and we talked about

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Speaker 2: the wedding and all that stuff. So now you guys

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Speaker 2: have been married for what a month.

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Speaker 3: And a couple of weeks or okay, so six weeks?

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Speaker 2: And so what are the living arrangements? Are you going

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Speaker 2: to stay in your house?

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Speaker 1: We you know, it's really weird because we might sell

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Speaker 1: my house. We don't really know. We're really figuring it

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Speaker 1: out as we go. We're definitely keeping the house on

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Speaker 1: the water because we have the boat.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we have to have the house, even as Shannon

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Speaker 2: used to be in that house.

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Speaker 3: Oh honey, we changed it all.

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Speaker 2: You staged.

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Speaker 3: Oh honey, it's done.

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Speaker 2: You stage that shit.

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Speaker 3: L It's it's moved. It's done.

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Speaker 2: Okay, you need to redecorate, new sheets, new everything, new mattress.

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Speaker 1: New bed pillows, everything, everything, but the kids love it.

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Speaker 2: New ring cameras, no ring cameras, the same.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, by the way, it's right there

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Speaker 1: when you walk in, So it's not like anyone's exclude different.

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Speaker 2: Don't seen not punching?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, you're going The other morning I walked out.

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Speaker 2: I mean, John wasn't the one punching.

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Speaker 1: No it at all.

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Speaker 3: Make that Claire, I walked out.

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Speaker 1: The other morning completely naked because I just got on

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Speaker 1: the shower and his his house is small, it's small.

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Speaker 4: Careful, he's going to keep that footage.

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Speaker 2: He goes.

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Speaker 3: He goes, Babe, I got footage, and I went like that, now,

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Speaker 3: yes you do.

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Speaker 2: You just got to Bravo Khan. Yeah, and I heard

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Speaker 2: you ran into Shannon.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how this gets back so fast.

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Speaker 4: Spencer got here before you. You're your your guy, and

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Speaker 4: so he told me. He's like, oh my god, we're walking.

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Speaker 1: You should have seen her face when she walked out

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Speaker 3: And I have my escort taking me and Spencer to

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Speaker 3: my room.

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Speaker 2: Escort sounds really weird. I don't think you should use

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Speaker 2: that word.

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Speaker 3: Change there. I don't know what handler hand. Okay, that

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Speaker 3: sounds even weirder.

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Speaker 2: Escort sounds a little weird and vague's okay, baby, I'm

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Speaker 2: just throwing that out there.

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Speaker 1: Let's just say the very amazing person in the four

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Speaker 1: seasons collared shirt was walking me to my room.

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Speaker 3: Okay. And so anyway, she.

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Speaker 1: Walks out, she gives this really bizarre like like look,

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Speaker 1: and then the elevators right there, and I realized who

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Speaker 1: I'm like Oh, that's gonna be really weird on the

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Speaker 3: So we we hung back and okay, I could have

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Speaker 3: You know, when I said to Spencer, I said, why

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Speaker 3: do I do that? Why? Why is it weird?

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Speaker 2: By the way, I would do the same, would you

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Speaker 2: would you?

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Speaker 3: Wait? I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I am not getting in an elevator with Shannon, but door.

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Speaker 1: I almost honestly afterwards, I thought I looked at him.

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Speaker 2: Shannon be bore is what I call her. Be bore?

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Speaker 2: You know, by the way, you know how she came

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Speaker 2: after you for rehearsing. There's a door, Shannon door. Do

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Speaker 2: you think she rehearsed with Archie Tamra Grudge?

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Speaker 3: Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Not only that.

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Speaker 1: Here's the thing, Tamara, You've had me on the podcast

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Speaker 1: enough times now to know that weird things come out

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Speaker 1: of my mouth that I don't even think about. They

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Speaker 1: just know they come out. Cookie Sometimes I'm Cookie, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't sit in the mirror and practice.

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Speaker 1: Do I practice my poses for Red car make sure

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Speaker 1: my stomach's in in a certain dress or gown. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: But I don't practice lines.

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Speaker 3: If they just whatever comes out comes out.

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Speaker 2: How long do you think she And here's the ironic

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Speaker 2: thing is I don't hold a grudge. I try to

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Speaker 2: make up.

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Speaker 3: You're the one that doesn't. To be honest, I know

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Speaker 3: you're the one that wants We're.

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Speaker 4: Still talking about David. Fuck John Janssen. She's still talking

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Speaker 4: about David. Okay, now that's a grudge. Okay, okay, talking

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Speaker 3: Please hold on.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we wish her well. I do, but please God

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Speaker 2: bless her.

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Speaker 3: I do wish her well. I do, I truly do.

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Speaker 1: And from the bottom of my heart, please talk about David,

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Speaker 1: your husband of decades, and that you have children with me,

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Speaker 1: talking about my husband who was on and off boyfriend

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Speaker 1: for a few years of your life, that I've now

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Speaker 1: been almost longer with and also am married.

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Speaker 2: Well too, John jans about a bad rap because her.

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Speaker 2: So we're going to move on. But it's okay from that,

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Speaker 2: But we were talking about grudges. We bear our grudge

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Speaker 2: two years ago at Bravo con and we've been kind

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Speaker 2: of inseparable since then.

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Speaker 1: You know, I no one gets it, Tam, No one

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Speaker 1: gets what that felt like in that room. Andy Cohen

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Speaker 1: was there, He probably felt the love.

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Speaker 2: He was crying tears.

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Speaker 1: We all were having tears, and it was like it

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Speaker 1: was one of those moments where you and I have

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Speaker 1: grown so much from what we were a.

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Speaker 2: Decade or both in marriages that we got out of.

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Speaker 3: There was just a lot of there's a lot of

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Speaker 2: Just so here's the thing we grew. We grew. Could

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Speaker 2: you imagine if I went you came back last year

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Speaker 2: and all we talked about is this shit that happened

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Speaker 2: first of all, who freaking remembers that shit?

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Speaker 4: You know?

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Speaker 3: I mean, otherwise it still bother anyone.

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Speaker 1: Anyways, it's like, whatever happened, look at how fast we squashed.

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Speaker 3: Look at how fast we squashed the beef. We had

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Speaker 3: a lot of shit. You threw me out of your gym.

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Speaker 3: You were like, get out of here.

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Speaker 2: I thought it exact.

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Speaker 3: I thought you were going to hit me. I went

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Speaker 2: I don't hit anybody.

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Speaker 1: I went home to my then husband and I said,

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Speaker 1: home to Jim and I said, I literally thought she

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Speaker 1: take it, but I was going to hit her right back.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. If you threw that much TV, can you

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Speaker 3: throw a punch at me? Girlfriend, I am going to

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Speaker 2: I would never hit you xanax Lydia.

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing, if you and I can get over this.

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Speaker 1: Question, is were you really taking xanax? I took one,

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Speaker 1: and I was I because I took.

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Speaker 2: Sanax this year and drank and didn't go over very well.

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Speaker 3: I only took like he told.

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Speaker 1: The doctor told me to take half of one, so

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Speaker 1: I took a quarter because I don't take prescription anything.

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Speaker 3: I don't even take advill.

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Speaker 2: I took it that night, or you took it.

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Speaker 1: You have taken all the stress of you, Tamra grudge

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Speaker 3: The stress of you. I was. I took oxanic.

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Speaker 1: I told Jim, I am I need and so our

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Speaker 1: doctor gave me great.

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Speaker 2: Not only am I a leaker.

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Speaker 4: Of storyline, you're a am a cyber hacker.

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Speaker 2: Now I cause people to take xanax.

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Speaker 3: You know, my reputation met her by the second.

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Speaker 2: Where's Teddy? Where's Teddy? When you need her?

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Speaker 3: She's on the way. She's on the way.

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Speaker 1: No, but you like the stress you and I were having,

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Speaker 3: So I took He said take a half. I took

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Speaker 3: It did the opposite for me.

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Speaker 1: It made me feel like I was I don't even know,

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Speaker 3: I did have to take it because of you. It's

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Speaker 2: I can see the headlines now, but look how we

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Speaker 2: made up. But I had to get you medicated first.

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Speaker 4: Only one time I was your your did situation.

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Speaker 2: You had to take some little bit.

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Speaker 3: Of Okay, well, I don't blame you, know, I.

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Speaker 2: Can't blame for everything you do. I do. I'm Cara.

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Speaker 2: If this season is not good, it's Tamra. If the

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Speaker 2: season's great, it's still Tarma's fault.

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Speaker 3: It's great.

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Speaker 2: It's crazy, right.

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Speaker 3: So I really that has bothered me this.

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Speaker 1: I know you can't talk about it because you're still

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Speaker 1: filming or like it hasn't comp there, but it has

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Speaker 3: It does.

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Speaker 2: It bothers me too. Well, everybody turn their back, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know. So let's talk about last season a little bit, Okay,

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Speaker 2: any regrets, any thoughts if you had to do it

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Speaker 2: over again, would you any problem with the edit? I

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Speaker 2: know you're going to be interviewing Alex Baskin.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well are you even supposed to give that information?

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Speaker 3: I can give it team in the back.

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Speaker 2: Room, I think so. Yes. So I hear that you're

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Speaker 2: going to be interviewing Alex Baskin. So, guys, I want

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Speaker 2: to let you know that that Alexis is here with

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Speaker 2: iHeart with to teas in a pod because I can't

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Speaker 2: be here every single day with Teddy, and Teddy's got

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Speaker 2: some obligations here as well. At Bravo Kahn Alexis Billin

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Speaker 2: Billino Jansen or I don't know what to say.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to.

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Speaker 2: Trust me.

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Speaker 1: I told you this last time we talked. It is

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Speaker 1: kind of going through what you went through with Eddie.

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Speaker 1: I am Alexis Jansen on the marriage certificate.

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Speaker 2: That took me three years. Say, he reminds me all

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Speaker 2: the time.

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Speaker 1: Right, and so when I'm getting my room and my

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Speaker 1: I don't think that you Honestly, I'm not in a

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Speaker 3: I know I am.

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Speaker 2: When you see when you said marriage certificate, first thing

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Speaker 3: That was with my mom. What's wrong with that?

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Speaker 3: It was with your mom?

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Speaker 2: With what was your ex?

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Speaker 1: It was called marriage boot Camp family addition, so it

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Speaker 3: Tamra. This is gonna make you cry. So I'm not

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Speaker 2: This is past now.

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Speaker 1: I know that.

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Speaker 1: We spent eighteen days in that Marriage boot Camp house

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Speaker 2: I know that Gretchen. We did a light detector test

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Speaker 3: How could she say she's not done it because she's on.

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Speaker 2: I feel so much better?

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Speaker 3: You called me every night, We cried together, You cried

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Speaker 1: You know? I feel like everything happens for a reason,

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Speaker 1: did I Okay, so picture this, you just lose your mom?

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Speaker 1: Five months before, three months before filming, August started filming

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Speaker 5: I'm one talking into signing the contract yes and so,

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Speaker 1: It's not right to be with someone who's not there

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Speaker 3: After knowing how low I already was. But you know

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Speaker 1: And this is why I say, what what doesn't kill

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Speaker 1: you makes you stronger? That song is so true, Thank

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Speaker 1: I don't know why. I don't have the clear picture,

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Speaker 2: So you co host with Carlos, you recap Orange County.

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Speaker 2: You're so good with Carlos.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think you're funny.

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Speaker 2: I think your point across, by the way, he is amazing.

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Speaker 2: Carlos is absolutely amazing. But I feel like you guys

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Speaker 1: One of the one of the people at your part,

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Speaker 1: your party that was amazing. Sorry, we just took had

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Speaker 3: Like I don't know, I don't I'm just following where

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Speaker 2: That you have a natural talent for podcasting. I really do.

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Speaker 3: I have fun with you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and as much as I want you back on

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Speaker 2: check on me and you tell me you love me,

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Speaker 2: and here I like, I feel like I have your heart,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Like there's not a lot

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Speaker 3: Last year, No I understand.

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Speaker 3: No one understands.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but a lot of times things aren't shown, so

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Speaker 2: So did they ever show any that. No, So there

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Speaker 2: it had nothing to do with being friends with you

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Speaker 2: I'm not that person that says I'm your friend and

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Speaker 2: But I also told you over and over again, your

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Speaker 1: Right?

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Speaker 3: No one's going to tell me who to be friends

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Speaker 2: Let me tell you that right now. She got her

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Speaker 1: I mean we're we're still we're still working through it all.

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Speaker 1: We have. I mean, this is what sucks is that

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Speaker 2: another person what they want to hear, and then telling

449
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Speaker 2: the other person what they want to hear, it causes problems.

450
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Speaker 1: Sometimes that's your saying camera that a friend of all

451
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Speaker 1: is a friend of none.

452
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Speaker 2: None, And that's where I'm problem with her, and that's

453
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Speaker 2: where sometimes their stories get a little like forgetful.

454
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Speaker 1: Well, I all I know is that you've allowed me

455
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Speaker 1: the space to have my friendship with her, and I'm

456
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Speaker 1: so thankful for that because that's also why we're so close,

457
00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,120
Speaker 1: Because you don't bring her up to me. I mean,

458
00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,320
Speaker 1: we're doing it now because we're talking about the show.

459
00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean, people don't get it that we have to

460
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Speaker 1: talk about this on a podcast. This is something that's today.

461
00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,840
Speaker 1: We're talking about today. But You've allowed me the space

462
00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,399
Speaker 1: to have my friendship with her, and I'm thankful for that.

463
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Speaker 1: And I'm also thankful that like Jen isn't I mean,

464
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 1: she hasn't been horrible to me. She's she's I'm I'm

465
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Speaker 1: still figuring things out. I'm trying to work through it, but.

466
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Speaker 2: She's and I'm hoping to work through things with her good.

467
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Speaker 3: And I wish just like I'm so excited about you

468
00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,800
Speaker 3: and Vicki, by the way, let's talk about that. Oh good, Okay,

469
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Speaker 3: So Vicki is going to be kind of a Max.

470
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Speaker 2: So Vicky and I, you know, we're like sisters. We fight,

471
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 2: we we get mad.

472
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Speaker 3: Okay, you need to talk for like a frickin year

473
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Speaker 3: or so.

474
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Speaker 2: That's for a year. But you know what that was, Shannon,

475
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,120
Speaker 2: that's because of Shannon. Shannatorships.

476
00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,520
Speaker 3: Shannon does that dictatorships don't work.

477
00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:58,080
Speaker 2: She's yeah, exactly. She doesn't want to send people to

478
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,639
Speaker 2: be friends. And I think that, you know, you know

479
00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:05,520
Speaker 2: something was brought up on the reunion about you know,

480
00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:11,520
Speaker 2: Shannon recording Vicky while Shannon while Vicky was actually taking

481
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Speaker 2: care of her, and you said, and I told you,

482
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,000
Speaker 2: and You're like, yeah, I know all about it. Yeah,

483
00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,240
Speaker 2: I got the text messages. She was texting John too

484
00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:25,080
Speaker 2: when this is happening and sending him audio. So I'm like,

485
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Speaker 2: I'm not the crazy one.

486
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:27,760
Speaker 3: I'm not the bad one.

487
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Speaker 2: Why because I don't want to gets off with everything

488
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Speaker 2: I know.

489
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Speaker 3: I don't know how. I don't want to be in

490
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Speaker 3: the thick of all of this because I'm removed.

491
00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 2: You're above it.

492
00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 3: I know I'm not above anything. I'm not too good

493
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,480
Speaker 3: or above any Here's the thing.

494
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Speaker 2: If you talk about Shannon, oh, you're obsessed. If you

495
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,240
Speaker 2: get asked about Shannon and you answer it.

496
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Speaker 3: Stop talking about her. Notice that.

497
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Speaker 1: Notice that every time that lady brought up my name,

498
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,240
Speaker 1: we weren't even in the equation.

499
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,159
Speaker 3: She talked about you and the whole season, all season,

500
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Speaker 3: the whole season.

501
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Speaker 1: But I would always I would because I have to

502
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Speaker 1: recap it with Carlos and do it. And I'm like

503
00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: I look back and I'm like, I it wasn't like

504
00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:06,600
Speaker 1: someone said, oh about Alexis. It was just it came

505
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 1: out of her mouth like she just so, who's the

506
00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:09,560
Speaker 1: obsessed one?

507
00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,359
Speaker 2: And Alexis, I want to say, like there was times

508
00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:14,200
Speaker 2: where I would because I had a really hard season

509
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 2: and talking about taking xanax, you know, with Teddy diagnosed

510
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,960
Speaker 2: and people.

511
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Speaker 3: Just so you guys know, I was on the other

512
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Speaker 3: phone and end of the fo.

513
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Speaker 2: With her, and I would tell you like, I'm trying

514
00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 2: to make up with this girl and she doesn't want

515
00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:27,919
Speaker 2: to make up. And you're like, you know, or she

516
00:21:28,040 --> 00:21:30,159
Speaker 2: did this to me today and you're like, Okay, Tamara,

517
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:31,920
Speaker 2: you know what, you need to really think about this,

518
00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,360
Speaker 2: Like you never put her down to me, you never

519
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,080
Speaker 2: thought like I took that branch. No, You're like, you

520
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,360
Speaker 2: know what, Okay, let's think about this, Let's do what's

521
00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:42,800
Speaker 2: best for you, and let's do I mean, at the

522
00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:46,679
Speaker 2: end of the day, everyone jay bitches and so you

523
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,399
Speaker 2: have to have friendships, but you also have to, like

524
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 2: you've got to think sometimes you have to put emotions aside.

525
00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:54,680
Speaker 2: When you're a reality TV person, you have to put

526
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,440
Speaker 2: emotions aside and go. It's getting harder for me as

527
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Speaker 2: I get older.

528
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Speaker 1: I think it's it was harder for me to you

529
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Speaker 1: should today because I'm another year older.

530
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Speaker 2: No, it was notice he's such a door. It was

531
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: hard for me to pack today. I'm here, I'm talking

532
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,439
Speaker 2: about emotions. It's hard for me as I get older.

533
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: She goes, it's hard for me to pack today. This

534
00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 2: is the stuff that I put up with with Alexis Jansen.

535
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Speaker 2: Bay Guys, thank you so much for tuning in. We

536
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Speaker 2: are at Bravo Con. It is Thursday night and I

537
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,920
Speaker 2: am going to watch What Happens to Night and you

538
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,439
Speaker 2: are going to hold down the ford here with Teddy.

539
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Speaker 2: You're gonna do some interviews. Super excited about this. You're

540
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,200
Speaker 2: going to be here for the weekend. And I thank

541
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Speaker 2: you so much.

542
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Speaker 3: Love you, I love you. Bye.

543
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Speaker 2: Hi