1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to another edition of Cardinal Territory. 2 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: This week a treat a special guest, two time gold 3 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: Glover eight years with the Cardinals. We welcome Colton Long 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: into Cardinal Territory. Colton, how you doing, my man? 5 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: I'm doing good, man. How you doing? 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 3: Jim doing great? 7 00:00:27,640 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: Uh? 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: My first question is folks should know this. You are 9 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:38,480 Speaker 1: at Cardinals camp. So what's it like being back at camp, 10 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: back with the boys. 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:40,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 12 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:43,160 Speaker 4: Man, it's amazing, you know, obviously, just kind of coming 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 4: back and being in Jupiter. This is first time been 14 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 4: in Jupiter since twenty twenty, realistically, like I've never been 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 4: back since, so, you know, a lot of cool memories obviously, 16 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 4: I you know, I turned into a man, you know, 17 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 4: being with the Cardinals and whatnot. And you know, Jupiter 18 00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 4: is always a special place. So coming out of here 19 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 4: special for me. And driving back and and you know, 20 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,200 Speaker 4: pulling into the clubhouse and seeing the new clubhouse that 21 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 4: they have. Man, it's it's beautiful. 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:09,559 Speaker 2: And these kids are They're lucky, man, They're they're very lucky. 23 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: How did this all come about? How did it happen? 24 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: Where Coln Wong was gonna come back and talk to 25 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: the younger guys. 26 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:20,399 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, you know, I took the I took a 27 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 4: year off after I retired just to kind of be dad. 28 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 5: You know. 29 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 4: I wanted to really lock in and learn my children 30 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:29,440 Speaker 4: and and you know, figure out you know, who they are. 31 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: You know. 32 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:32,560 Speaker 4: That's one of the biggest things that you know, was 33 00:01:32,840 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: in my decision for retiring was you know, the first time. 34 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 4: First thing that really hit me was my oldest son. 35 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 4: I saw his first steps on my phone, you know, 36 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,800 Speaker 4: and uh, that killed me, man, that really did. So 37 00:01:43,920 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 4: that was a big thing for me to step away. 38 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 4: And you know, so I got to really enjoy my 39 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 4: my my oldest and then my youngest was starting to 40 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,200 Speaker 4: do his you know steps and whatnots. I was there 41 00:01:52,240 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 4: for that and uh, you know, so the decision was 42 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 4: was the correct and it was it was a great time. 43 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: You know, people don't realize too professional athletes like yourself 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: make a lot of money, okay, but that doesn't mean 45 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: it's a perfect existence. 46 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 3: There's a sacrifice. You're not there. 47 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 1: I know, you got two boys and and you mess 48 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: a lot. And I know, no matter how great you are, 49 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:16,919 Speaker 1: how well you're doing at the plate, or how well 50 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:17,919 Speaker 1: the team is doing. 51 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:20,239 Speaker 3: There's a bit of a sacrifice there. 52 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, absolutely, And that was the biggest thing too, 53 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 4: is like I started to realize towards the end of 54 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 4: my career that when I had my kids, like before 55 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 4: I was, I was, I was, I was a feuder rat, 56 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,120 Speaker 4: like I just wanted to be at the field early 57 00:02:33,160 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 4: I was probably you know I was right after YACHTI 58 00:02:35,160 --> 00:02:37,839 Speaker 4: every single day of showing up just wanted to get better, 59 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:40,519 Speaker 4: wanted to continue to push. And then towards galenside my kids, 60 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:42,799 Speaker 4: I just wanted to stay home, you know. 61 00:02:43,240 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 2: I wanted to be there. 62 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 4: I wanted to hold them, I wanted to play with them, 63 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 4: and it just my priorities just changed three sixty and 64 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 4: then you know, that's that's a beautiful thing about having kids, right, 65 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 4: It just it takes that selfishness out of you as 66 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 4: a person and it puts all the spotlight on that 67 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 4: beautiful thing that you created. So you know, definitely blessed 68 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 4: with that for sure. 69 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: So for people that don't remember, you were a first 70 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:11,680 Speaker 1: round pick with high expectations for the Cardinals, and the 71 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: same can be said for JJ Weatherhold And I've seen 72 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: the pictures from Jupiler, You've been talking to Tim working with 73 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 1: him a little bit. Tell me the things that you're 74 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: you're talking to JJ about. 75 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, just trying to be an ear for him to 76 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 4: be honest with you. Man, the guy is special. The 77 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 4: kid is absolutely special. Just like his makeup, the way 78 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 4: he cares himself, his attitude about how he's trying to 79 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: get better. You know, he's really good at just accepting 80 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 4: the fact that he needs to work more, he needs 81 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 4: to get better at a lot of different things. I mean, 82 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 4: the guy's special. Man, He's going to be a heck 83 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 4: of a player. We all know that. And I think 84 00:03:43,640 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 4: that's the coolest thing is like he realizes that he's good, 85 00:03:47,400 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 4: but he knows that there's so much more that he 86 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: can add to his game. And it's that's that's a 87 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 4: special trait that a lot of guys don't have. So 88 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 4: just watching him, I mean, obviously you watch the bat. 89 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:56,760 Speaker 4: The bat is incredible. You know, if you're going backside 90 00:03:56,800 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 4: at Roger Dean, let's say something. I mean, guys are 91 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 4: doing that. So you know that's going to play in 92 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 4: the big leagues. Man, the makeup, the head, you know, 93 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: him being confident in himself, that's gonna play in the 94 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 4: big leagues. 95 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 2: Defense is gonna play the big league. It's just cleaning 96 00:04:10,440 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 2: up a little bit things here and there. But he's 97 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 2: so young, man, he's gonna figure out and that guy's 98 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: gonna be specialist. Saint Lewis be ready man, JJ's coming. 99 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 1: So a lot of guys that have his resume might 100 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 1: not take that well. Work is still a big part 101 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: of it. You're saying that this kid understands what's ahead 102 00:04:28,480 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 1: and what he has to do to get to where 103 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: he wants to be. 104 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 2: Right absolutely, you know, he's for me. 105 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 4: It seems like he's a guy that is okay with 106 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 4: breaking himself down and understanding that. You know, I'm at 107 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 4: the highest level of the games that I play my 108 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: whole life. 109 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 2: Now I need to make sure that everything is at 110 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: that level, you know. 111 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 4: And that's the biggest thing with big leaguers and a 112 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 4: lot of these guys is you don't get the special 113 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: guys in the game that have created these amazing careers, 114 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 4: you know, And you talk to him and they're constantly 115 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 4: getting better and better and better, and they're never satisfied. 116 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 4: And he's got that same in trade with him, you know, 117 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,640 Speaker 4: And it's just special to see that uh, me being 118 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 4: the guy now, I'm just wanted to be an ear 119 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 4: for him, you know, help him do anything that he's 120 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 4: got any questions a lot, And I told him, I 121 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 4: was like, man, take my number during the season, bro. 122 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 4: You know, I don't. I don't want to put it 123 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 4: on you, but you know you're gonna have your ups 124 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,920 Speaker 4: and downs. That's just part of a baseball season. If 125 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 4: you need help, you need just somebody that talks to 126 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 4: an event, hit me out, bro. 127 00:05:21,640 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: I remember when the Cardinals drafted you and being the 128 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: first round pick and with high expectations that comes with 129 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: a certain amount of pressure, the same some of the 130 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: same pressure that the JJ I'm sure probably will have 131 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: to deal with it at some point. How How tough 132 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 1: is that to him? 133 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 2: It definitely is tough, you know. 134 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 4: But I think that the thing that a lot of 135 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 4: people don't realize, like the pressure that they put on 136 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,280 Speaker 4: us is not even that close to the pressure we 137 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: putting ourselves. 138 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 2: You know. 139 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 4: It's it's that attention to detail that we put on 140 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 4: every single day on the little things to make our 141 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 4: game as perfect as we can do, you know, and 142 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 4: then when it doesn't come up, obviously, the fans are pissed. 143 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: Everybody's pissed. Like you got to realize how pissed. 144 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 4: We are, you know, like we take pride and so 145 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,160 Speaker 4: much time and effort into just constantly working on these 146 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 4: little intricate details to make your defense better, to make 147 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 4: your offense a little bit, to figure out your bunting, 148 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 4: the little things like that. So when you do mess 149 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 4: up as much as you, guys get pissed off. I 150 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: promise you, if we could take out out how many 151 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 4: hit ourselves, say hey, what a bad we would. 152 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: So the Cardinals now. 153 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: Rebuilding, it's a different scenario than when you were a 154 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 1: Cardinal low those many years. I'm just curious, what's your 155 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: sense of the energy level and the exsignment level for 156 00:06:48,279 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: a lot of young players getting their opportunities this year. 157 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think I think a lot of guys 158 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 4: are kind of figuring that out. They're understanding that, you know, 159 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 4: this is a big opportunity for a lot of these 160 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 4: young guys that you know, maybe some of them have 161 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 4: a year or two maybe if somewhere on the verge 162 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 4: of trying to make that big leagues. Like listen, man, 163 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 4: there's so much opportunities right now for you guys. To 164 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 4: get there. This organization is trying to rebuild. We're trying 165 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 4: to figure out how to get back to where we 166 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 4: were back. 167 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 2: In the day. 168 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 4: And you know, a big step is the transition of 169 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: this complex down here. I mean, these kids are coming 170 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 4: into a top of the line, see to the art complex. 171 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 4: And you know, with that kind of complex that you're 172 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: playing in, the level of play is going to continue. 173 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 2: To get higher. It has to because you have everything. 174 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 4: They have force plates, they have track man's, they have trajets, 175 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 4: they have every single thing to make you a better player. 176 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 4: It's all about now you putting in the work and 177 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 4: using the tools that the Cardinals have provided now to 178 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 4: get to that next step. And I think that that, honestly, 179 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 4: this thing has come together perfect timing because now you've 180 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 4: got kids that you can bring down here and you 181 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 4: constantly build and build the Cardonal way back the way 182 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 4: that we want to do because we have everything in house. 183 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: How different is it the complex I'm talking about the 184 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: facilities from when you were a young player in camp. 185 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: Oh man, hey, do you really explain that to people? 186 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah? 187 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 4: You guys, ever been to a nineteen ninety seven baseball. 188 00:08:14,960 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: Dugout? Very similar feel it was you know, it was 189 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 2: old school rugs. 190 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Man. 191 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 4: We had the ceiling was probably eight feet high as 192 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,200 Speaker 4: some of the top of the scenes were falling out. 193 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 4: We had the old metal lockers with the little benches, 194 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 4: you know. And now these guys are coming in, man, 195 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 4: and their thing. It's it's beautiful. They got the car 196 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:34,240 Speaker 4: on the seating lit up. They got brand new Ruggs. 197 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 4: These guys have couches, they got TVs, they got all 198 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 4: these things. 199 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 2: Man, they got this lunch room. Now that's state of 200 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: the art. 201 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: These guys are getting fed unbelievable meals, and like, dude, 202 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,640 Speaker 4: take advantage of this, boys, and enjoy this and appreciate it, man, 203 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 4: because I promise you, as much as you guys love 204 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 4: playing this game, you're gonna be retired lot long when 205 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 4: you're playing, man, So just enjoy it. 206 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:55,959 Speaker 3: Seems like it's nice. 207 00:08:56,840 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: I want to ask you about your your cardinal career, 208 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: and you had so many highlights along the way. I 209 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 1: know you took a lot of pride being a cardinal. 210 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: What is the one moment that jumps out to you? 211 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: Because I'm thinking about Game two NLCS twenty fourteen. You 212 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: walk it off in the ninth inning when you think 213 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: about your career, what are the moments that stand out 214 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 1: to you. 215 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's definitely a big moment for me, you know. 216 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 4: I mean, obviously, you know, I think we all understand 217 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 4: twenty thirteen what happened, So twenty fourteen was huge, but honestly, 218 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:35,479 Speaker 4: twenty thirteen was, I'm sorry to say, it was something. 219 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:37,320 Speaker 2: That I would never give away. You know. 220 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 4: Getting picked off obviously sucked, man, it really did as 221 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:42,600 Speaker 4: a person, as a player, I was twenty two years old, 222 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:44,560 Speaker 4: just got to the big leagues, you know, and to 223 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: have that happen. 224 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 2: You know, at that time, I thought it was the 225 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: end of the world. 226 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 4: But in the reality of things, man, that situation right 227 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 4: there made me want to become so much more than 228 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 4: I thought I could be. 229 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 5: You know. 230 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 4: It made me want to push so much harder to 231 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 4: make people for not forget, to make people understand that 232 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 4: I'm not just that guy that I could constantly be better. 233 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 2: I could push the envelope to be who I want 234 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 2: to be, you know. And it was like, I think that. 235 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 4: That pickoff took away the fear of the game for 236 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,079 Speaker 4: me after that, and I was like, okay, listen, I 237 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 4: did the worst thing you probably could do in a game, 238 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 4: get picked off to end the game in a World 239 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:23,079 Speaker 4: Series with Carlos freaking beltrom at the plate. 240 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: You know. 241 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 4: And it's so I kind of started to really lean 242 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 4: onto that and be like, you know what, man, if 243 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 4: I hit that rock bottom, there's no place lower for 244 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,920 Speaker 4: me to go, So there's no fear anymore. So I 245 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 4: think that was a big transition for me to really 246 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 4: start taking that next step and becoming the player that 247 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 4: I was. And yeah, so I would never give any 248 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 4: of those situations away, and that was definitely a big 249 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 4: one for me. 250 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: It's funny because another media guy buddy of mine once said, 251 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:53,840 Speaker 1: when you talked to Coltland about his cardinal career, of 252 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: all the accomplishments and great things, even if you know 253 00:10:57,800 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: the pickoff is not something you plan to ask him about, 254 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: he brings it up. So obviously that was sort of 255 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,439 Speaker 1: the pivotal moment in your career. 256 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 4: Right, Absolutely, absolutely, And the thing is, I'll never run 257 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 4: away from that, you know. 258 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 2: I try to tell kids that too. 259 00:11:12,679 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 4: After IM like, look, you guys, wan'ta watch the video, 260 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: go see it, like learn from that, understand that, you 261 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 4: know what, man, Like, we're gonna mess up, you're gonna 262 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,959 Speaker 4: mess on the fild. You're gonna make these little decisions 263 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 4: and at the wrong time, and you're gonna you're gonna 264 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 4: pay the consequences. You know, as long as you face 265 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 4: the music and you come back and you want to 266 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 4: be better and you're you're not gonna let that define you, 267 00:11:30,920 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 4: and you're gonna be better. You know, it's gonna build 268 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 4: you to the man that you want to be and 269 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,640 Speaker 4: the man that you're expected to become. 270 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: So when, uh, when you talk about the Cardinals, like 271 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: I could see your eyes light up. And you played 272 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 1: with with other teams too, but you're a cardinal. What 273 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 1: was it about playing with the Cardinals being a Cardinal 274 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 1: that that you appreciated so much? 275 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,199 Speaker 2: I tell everybody this to this day. 276 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:57,840 Speaker 4: I was like, you know, the biggest thing for Saint 277 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 4: Louis was when I came here, we were winning, you know, 278 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 4: And so when I stepped in, the aura that was 279 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 4: in that clubhouse was we were expecting to win every 280 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 4: single day, you know, And we weren't just expecting to 281 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 4: play one sixty two. We were expecting to go and 282 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 4: continue to play the playoffs. So we're always getting ready 283 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,320 Speaker 4: for one sixty two and the playoffs. It was never 284 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 4: we were never accepting just playing and that was a 285 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: big thing, man. That really helped me as a person 286 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 4: to continue to push and get better because I was like, 287 00:12:25,240 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 4: you know, I don't want to feel any of these guys. 288 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: I want to let any of these guys down, because 289 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:29,880 Speaker 4: at the end of the day, like these guys have 290 00:12:29,960 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: showing me what it's take, it's gonna take to be 291 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 4: a big leaguer, So I'm gonna do whatever I can 292 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,520 Speaker 4: to be the guy that needed to beat, you know. 293 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,080 Speaker 4: And then realistically, like the Saint Louis Cardinals, man, they 294 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: were so good at teaching us how to create a routine, 295 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 4: especially for us young guys coming into the you know, 296 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 4: pro baseball whatnot. You know, I tell a lot of 297 00:12:47,200 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 4: these young guys nowadays, I'm like, man, they're the only 298 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,680 Speaker 4: way that you can be confident as a player is 299 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: if you have, you know, a bulletproof routine, something that 300 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 4: you can do every single day. Doesn't matter if it's 301 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,560 Speaker 4: you know, you play eighteen nine game or eighteen innings 302 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 4: the night before and you got to dig in the 303 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 4: next day. 304 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 2: You know, you still understand that my routine is what 305 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: I do every single day to get you ready. 306 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 4: So I was telling them, you know, you build a 307 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,599 Speaker 4: solid bulletproof routine and your confidence is constantly behind that 308 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 4: because you're never worried about how you're feeling this night. 309 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 4: You just realize, like, I did everything I need to 310 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 4: do every single or the same way to get ready. 311 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: So I just gotta go out there compete. 312 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 4: And yeah, that's been a big thing with a lot 313 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 4: of these guys, is just understanding what the Cardonal way is. 314 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 4: You know, it's a hard work, it's attention to detail, 315 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 4: and it's a winning to go out there and compete 316 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 4: all twenty seven ounce. 317 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: I'm just wondering what the day to day, the daily 318 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: for Coldon Wong is. Now you mentioned your dad, you're 319 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 1: watching your kids. What what is a normal day like 320 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: for Colton wall Man. 321 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 2: So I wake up usually went right around like six 322 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:49,920 Speaker 2: six thirty ish. 323 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 4: I'll get up and then I'll kind of wait for 324 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: the boys, and then the boys will wake up and 325 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 4: they'll come down and won't hang out, and. 326 00:13:55,280 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: Then we'll go outside. 327 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 4: I take them outside every day right we wake up, 328 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 4: They'll get like a little ogre, will go outside and 329 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 4: then we'll start hitting baseballs off the tee. They love baseball. Man, 330 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: They're just constantly out there and we hit baseballs and 331 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 4: we'll come in. I'll cook them at breakfast. I try 332 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 4: to make them like super healthy breakfast. Is because the 333 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:15,559 Speaker 4: one thing I learned is like when Matt Holliday when 334 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 4: he was here, he had Jackson, he had Ethan. They're 335 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 4: I think eight and six at a time, somewhere around 336 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 4: that age, and I'd pay attention to him and how 337 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 4: he took care of these kids and how he fed 338 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 4: them and how he just he had them on a 339 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 4: regimen of realizing like this is life. 340 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 2: You know, this isn't you know me just doing like 341 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: this is how we're going to live life. 342 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 4: And like you look at those kids now and like 343 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 4: the way that they carry themselves and how they're like 344 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: they're I mean, these kids are machines, you know. So 345 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 4: I learned from Matt, and I took all those things 346 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,120 Speaker 4: and all the guys that had kids, I just constantly 347 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: will just learn and figure out. So I was like, Okay, 348 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 4: But the funny thing is now that I'm here, I'm like, 349 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 4: so I talked with Brownie. 350 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 2: They hitting coach. I'm like, hey, Brownie, what should I do? 351 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:51,440 Speaker 2: With my kids. 352 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: You know what, can I start adding that this smart thing? 353 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 4: So he Brownie's a mad scientist. So he's like telling me. 354 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, you need to get this that this. 355 00:14:57,880 --> 00:14:59,560 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh so I'm here writing down all the 356 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 2: different things and I do. Thank you, Ed. I'm gonna 357 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 2: grab all these things and we're gonna just go out 358 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: of town. 359 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: Well, your kids have you know, have the gene pool 360 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: they won the genetic lottery, like holidays kids. You think 361 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: your kids will be big leaguer someday possibly. 362 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: You know what, I just whatever they do, I hope 363 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 4: they do it's the way that I did. I just 364 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 4: hope they attack whatever they want to do wholeheartedly. That's 365 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 4: the thing is, like, you know, I I tell everybuddy 366 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:28,320 Speaker 4: like the baseball is my journey. 367 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 2: You know something that I want to do. I don't 368 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:31,240 Speaker 2: ever want to portray that on my kids. 369 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 4: They want to do it amazing If they don't, like, 370 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 4: I just hope that whatever they do they attack it 371 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: just as hard as I do. 372 00:15:36,400 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 2: That's it. 373 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 3: We're gonna take a quick break here. 374 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: You're watching Cardinal Territory on the Foul Territory Network. 375 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 5: We love Hello Fresh shout out to them and over 376 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 5: one hundred recipes to choose from each week to provide variety. 377 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 5: They're the spice of life. They don't make it boring 378 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 5: for you when you're preparing food. 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So coldon Wong. 408 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if you've been watching the WBC. We 409 00:17:29,240 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: had a little clunker last night for Team USA. But 410 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: you didn't play in the World Baseball Classic, but you 411 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:42,120 Speaker 1: did represent America where Team USA in college? So what's 412 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 1: the difference between playing in a college game or a 413 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: big league game and representing your team, which obviously you 414 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: have love. 415 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 3: For it, but we're in the USA on your chest. 416 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 3: What's the difference? 417 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 4: Oh, it's crazy, you know. I mean, you're not just 418 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 4: playing for yourself, You're not just playing for a city. 419 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:01,199 Speaker 4: You're playing for the whole country, you know, and on 420 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: the biggest stage like this too. Like I didn't mind 421 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 4: in college and I wasn't even really playing. I was 422 00:18:04,840 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 4: just part of the team at the time. But uh, 423 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 4: you know, even just being on it and you know, 424 00:18:10,200 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 4: realizing how special that was and the guys that I 425 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 4: got a chance to be around. You know that Team 426 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 4: USA Jersey will always weigh heavy and always have that pride, 427 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 4: and you know, you see it on all the guys 428 00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 4: that are playing right now. You know, obviously everybody's still 429 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 4: in spring training moment. Man, these guys are turning up, 430 00:18:24,760 --> 00:18:27,959 Speaker 4: you know, and you know, seeing the little animosity that 431 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 4: is going on and whatnot. I love it, man. I 432 00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 4: think it's just great for the game. I think it's 433 00:18:32,200 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 4: great for the fans, and it's great for just you know, 434 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 4: showing people that you know this, it's okay to have 435 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 4: a little animosity, Okay to do that. 436 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 2: Man. That's just part of these guys competing. 437 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 3: Last night. 438 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: Now, there was some confusion as to whether or not 439 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:52,159 Speaker 1: the the the Americans were into the next round if 440 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: they had already qualified. 441 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 3: I'm just curious. 442 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: So, like, you're playing Team Italy and there's major leaguers 443 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,280 Speaker 1: on their team and the United States gets upset, Just 444 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:05,680 Speaker 1: put yourself in that position. If this All Star team 445 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: from the US and again you're playing against the Italian team, 446 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: which has bona fide professional players too. 447 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: But put yourself in that mindset. 448 00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 1: What to like to suddenly be behind eight to nothing 449 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: to Team Italy. 450 00:19:17,640 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 3: What would that be? 451 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:18,560 Speaker 2: Like? 452 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 4: It's tough, man, because I mean in baseball, like it 453 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:27,120 Speaker 4: doesn't matter. You know, you can have a good team. 454 00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 4: Sometimes that's just off on that day, you know. And 455 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:31,359 Speaker 4: the thing is like, when you're down eight, that is 456 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 4: so far to catch, especially when you understand the other 457 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 4: team has solidified big leaguers, you know, like, yeah, it's 458 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: Team Italy, but you look at that team and a 459 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 4: majority of those guys are big league guys. 460 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:44,400 Speaker 2: You know, there's a. 461 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 4: Good group of guys that you know have a chip 462 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 4: on their shoulder because they realize that everybody calmed them 463 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,520 Speaker 4: out right away. You know, they're like, Dude, I play 464 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 4: with a lot of these guys on TSA. I play 465 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 4: with a lot of these guys in Team Mexico Dominican Republic. 466 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 4: We all play together, you know, and it's like, so, 467 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 4: I think that's the cool thing with Team Italy. And 468 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 4: then the whole situation is like, you know, you're starting 469 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: to realize like these guys, you know, they might not 470 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 4: be household name, but everybody in this league is pretty 471 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 4: dang good man, and it's it's fun to see the 472 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 4: competition growing all over the world. 473 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: So Holidays coaching and he's doing, you know, some of 474 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:21,399 Speaker 1: the podcasting. Lance Lind's doing some some broadcasting. I know 475 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: he's doing some coaching on the side too. What's a 476 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:26,879 Speaker 1: hen for koluen Wang? What do you want to see 477 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 1: in the future? What direction do you think you might hit? 478 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, honestly, I mean I've been asked that question a 479 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,159 Speaker 4: couple of times this week, and I honestly don't know. 480 00:20:36,359 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 4: You know, this was kind of the first step of 481 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 4: me just kind of coming out and just wanted to 482 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 4: kind of give back to the organization that gave me everything, 483 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 4: you know, give me my start, drafted me, believed in me, 484 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:47,080 Speaker 4: you know when I was just a kid from Hawaii. 485 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 4: You know, so for me, I just it was always 486 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 4: pulling on my heart to come back. And you know, 487 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 4: when I was done to give back and do what 488 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 4: I can. I don't think I'm ready to do the 489 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 4: coaching thing yet. You know, I've been really enjoying my 490 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 4: time with my boys, there are four and about to 491 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 4: be three, you know, so they're that prime time of 492 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 4: you know, really just learning them and you know, seeing 493 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 4: them grow and. 494 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 2: Constantly become you know, the men that they're going to be. 495 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't think there's really much it's gonna 496 00:21:10,840 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 4: pull me away from them at this point. But you know, 497 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 4: definitely these you know, little show ups here and there, 498 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 4: I'd love to do and you know, even start bringing 499 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 4: my boys with me to so that they can realize, 500 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:20,760 Speaker 4: you know, what dad used to do back in the day. 501 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: And you're just thirty five years old. I mean, you're 502 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,520 Speaker 1: still a young man. But that's one thing your kids 503 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:31,320 Speaker 1: need to get that feel You got to come. 504 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 3: To camp once. 505 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: You want to bring your kids, right, I mean, because 506 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: that's part of the process for the for the kids, 507 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: and maybe one day they end up where the Holiday 508 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: kids are. 509 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 4: Right, absolutely, absolutely, I mean that's so special just to 510 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,960 Speaker 4: get that. You know, I used to I used to 511 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 4: watch the Holiday kids and you know, everybody who'd bring 512 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 4: their kids on, like, man, this is crazy. These kids 513 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 4: don't realize how how lucky they are to be out 514 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 4: here and to appreciate this thing, you know, And so yeah, 515 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 4: I'm definitely going to try and continue to do to 516 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 4: come out and support and whatnot, and you know, who 517 00:21:58,359 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 4: knows on the road what may happen. 518 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:01,919 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not trying to take anyone's job or 519 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:03,120 Speaker 2: come in and be that guy. 520 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,160 Speaker 4: I just I really just genuinely want to just help out, 521 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 4: you know, whatever I can do, Like especially like for instance, 522 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 4: the jj I thing, like that was perfect for me 523 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 4: to just come in and kind of help out the 524 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 4: guy and just be an earphonem. That's really all I 525 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 4: wanted to do, just kind of be around the guys 526 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 4: and just tell him, you know, and just kind of 527 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 4: be that guy to explained to him, like, hey, listen, man, 528 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 4: my career was never Hall of Fame, you know, like 529 00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 4: it was. 530 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: It was hard. You know. 531 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 4: I started from the ground zero, and I had to 532 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,360 Speaker 4: work my way up and constantly you know, getting back down, 533 00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:33,119 Speaker 4: figuring out, getting back down, figuring out. And you know, 534 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 4: so for me, like so it's kind of easy for 535 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 4: guys to like compare their careers to or like you know, 536 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 4: talk to me, because they realized, like, man, the game 537 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 4: wasn't so easy for me. 538 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: I had to work so much harder than everybody else. 539 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 4: Just to be able to be average or you know, 540 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 4: somewhat above average to hold myself there for ten years. 541 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 4: I was like, you know, it was it was a 542 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,320 Speaker 4: grind that I did every single day that I loved 543 00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:57,479 Speaker 4: and I became obsessed with. 544 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 2: And you know, if you guys have any questions, man, I'm. 545 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 4: Sure majority of the situations you guys are asking I've 546 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:04,800 Speaker 4: been in, so yeah, ask away. 547 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 1: You were a very good player and some of the 548 00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: best defense at second base I ever saw steel base. 549 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: I used to say, someone has a little pop too. 550 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,360 Speaker 1: You were the My last question, now, where the less. 551 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 2: You go is? 552 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 1: You know, we we've talked about you being back and 553 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 1: being away from it. Take me to the moment where 554 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 1: you're in the clubhouse and you're putting on the gear 555 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 1: for the first time in a while and walking out 556 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: on the baseball field. What's going through your mind? What's 557 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 1: coming over you at that moment? 558 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 4: Oh man, that was kind of crazy because I walked 559 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 4: up and obviously, you know, instead of going into the clubhouse, 560 00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 4: I went to the coach's locker room, you know, So 561 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: I go down, I'm like, we're just coaches locker room. 562 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,200 Speaker 4: So I figure out my way and a get in there, 563 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,439 Speaker 4: and of course while she's the band. You know, he 564 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 4: had me, he had my stuff all hanged out with 565 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 4: with the wall and the sixteen. 566 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 2: But I told her, dude, I don't. 567 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 4: Want the jersey, you know, that's that's Gorman's thing, Like, 568 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 4: just give me a nice little hoodie. 569 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 2: That's totally fine, man. 570 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 4: But you know, just being back here and you know 571 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 4: some of the smells, you know, walking through the hallway 572 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 4: and having the smells. I remember walking, like the first 573 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: time I was walking, closed my eyes and just smelling. 574 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 4: I'm like, holy smokes. Like I remember being I remember 575 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 4: the smell. I remember walking here and going to the 576 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 4: backfields and getting ready for to play, you know, the 577 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 4: minor league games, or getting ready to go out to 578 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 4: Roger Dean. And you know, it's just like the little 579 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 4: things like that, the subtle thing, because I mean there's 580 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 4: so much changes to this place, you know, the little 581 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 4: things that are still left. 582 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 2: Those are the things that I'll starting to appreciate. 583 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 1: Well, Coldon, we uh, we appreciate you spending time, great 584 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 1: catching up with you again. It's great that you're back 585 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,199 Speaker 1: with the team and helping a young player, you know, 586 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: to make his next step. But we appreciate you coming 587 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: on with us. Always a pleasure, always one of the 588 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: good guys, Golden. 589 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 2: Wong, and that's gonna do it rather thank you. 590 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:52,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's gonna do it for this edition of Cardinal Territory. 591 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: We'll see you for the next episode. Hopefully that one 592 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:55,920 Speaker 1: won't suck.