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Speaker 1: Caf I Am six forty. You're listening to the john

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Speaker 2: Later on this hour. I mean, this is an unbelievable story.

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Speaker 2: This bald fiend, his name is Eric Uller. Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: what a mugshot and his big bald head and his

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Speaker 2: evil eyes. For decades he was molesting boys and his

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Speaker 2: angle was illegal immigrant boys.

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Speaker 3: Good one. Huh.

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Speaker 2: This comes out of Santa Monica, where they there's two

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Speaker 2: hundred victims so far, at least two hundred. The abuse

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Speaker 2: could have begun in nineteen eighty nine. The city of

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Speaker 2: Santa Monica has had to pay out over two hundred

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Speaker 2: million dollars related to the damage that this man did,

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Speaker 2: and of course they ignored I guess complaints or problems

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Speaker 3: The total plien.

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Speaker 2: The total payout is two hundred and twenty nine point

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Speaker 2: two eighty five million, the most costly single predator sexual

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Speaker 2: abuse dispersement for any municipality in the state. It's all

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Speaker 2: because of this one man. We're going to find out

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Speaker 2: about the latest lawsuit settlements from Brian Claypool in about

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Speaker 2: thirty minutes on the Johnny Ken Show.

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Speaker 3: But apparently He was.

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Speaker 2: A volunteer with the Police Activities League, which gave them

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Speaker 2: access to the boys and girls.

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Speaker 1: Just as a side note here, you may wonder where's

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Speaker 1: the city going to get the money? Part of the money,

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Speaker 1: they're going to suspend a substantial portion of a special

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Speaker 1: fund to build affordable housing.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, how about that they can't. That must have

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Speaker 3: upset some people.

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Speaker 1: They can't build affordable housing because they gotta pay hundreds

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Speaker 1: of millions of dollars to some sex pervert.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he was going after young boys. Wow, witnessed him

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Speaker 3: driving young boys all over town. No affordable housing for you. Sorry.

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Speaker 2: He was given a take home, fully equipped, unmarked police vehicle,

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Speaker 2: and he would use it to drive the boys home

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Speaker 2: and around town and shower them with three gifts.

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Speaker 1: And you're right, such a creepy looking guy. Nobody who

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Speaker 1: worked with him all those years picked up on it.

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Speaker 3: Oh take it. He's in prison. This is all civil.

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Speaker 3: He killed himself? Oh he did, okay, Yeah, so they

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Speaker 3: had a happy ending there. Oh how long digo did

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Speaker 3: he kill himself? Ah? I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta look this up. I don't remember

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Speaker 1: hearing about this case. I'm sure we know but.

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Speaker 2: This is just the latest settlement. So this has apparently

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Speaker 2: been known for a little while. But he got away

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Speaker 2: with this for a laundry.

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Speaker 3: And twenty nine million dollars in total.

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Speaker 2: Two hundred people in counting have come forward to say this,

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Speaker 2: this guy abused me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's a million a million a kid, yep.

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Speaker 1: I mean, first you think that's an outrageous.

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Speaker 2: Here's a pale employee who said, in nineteen ninety five,

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Speaker 2: a boy told her that Uller had all for to

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Speaker 2: help clean his penis because his father is a doctor.

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Speaker 2: Nineteen ninety five, he continued to volunteer with the Police

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Speaker 3: Well think about that. Who else was in on this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I'm sure Brian will have a lot of

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Speaker 2: of that? Oh John, bad news. Julie Sue got by

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Speaker 2: the committee and the Senate. You're kidding me?

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Speaker 3: She did?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, party line vote. Oh, her nomination has been moved

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Speaker 2: to the full Senate.

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Speaker 1: Julie Sue is responsible for the thirty million going out

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I forgot to mention that. But now we did the.

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Speaker 1: Store thirty million dollars that she thirty billion, thirty billion

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Speaker 2: I remember they approved her in twenty twenty one as

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Speaker 3: She's already gone through the Senate needs.

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Speaker 2: To become a Deputy Secretary of Labor, but now she's

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Speaker 1: There is nothing, nothing that stops you from getting approved

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Speaker 3: Would you hire somebody? Would you hire somebody.

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Speaker 1: Who blew thirty billion dollars just out of laziness because

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Speaker 3: This is not an ideological issue here. This is just

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Speaker 1: Lazy to enforce the fraud mechanisms that should have been

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Speaker 3: So we're reading from California Globe.

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Speaker 2: His name is John KABATEC he's the California State director

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Speaker 2: for the National Federation of Independent Businesses. He says, as

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Speaker 2: it stands now, small business owner's wife to dig deeper

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Speaker 2: Fund into bankruptcy by shuttering small businesses, the state drove

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Speaker 2: California consumers to big box stores. In tandem with this funneling,

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Speaker 2: those same corporations were able to borrow vast amounts of

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Speaker 2: to possibly write this problem governor knewso should at a minimum,

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Speaker 2: backfill the unemployment fund by taking money obviously from the

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Speaker 2: state's budget affordable app that doesn't happen, then they're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to charge the small businesses. Well, it's a extra

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Speaker 2: unemployment tax money four hundred and twenty dollars.

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Speaker 3: I think per employee, per year.

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Speaker 1: Per employee per year for every small business, four hundred

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Speaker 2: Am if you have like just ten people working for you.

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Speaker 1: Dollars Julie Sue was too stupid and lazy to enforce

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Speaker 3: All right, how do you how do you give.

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Speaker 1: Away thirty billion dollars to fraudsters? How do you do that?

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Speaker 1: She got up every day and went to work, and

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Speaker 1: every day tens of millions of dollars was going out

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Speaker 1: the door. Every day, they were mailing out tens of

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Speaker 3: That's what she did. And now she's going to be

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Speaker 3: the Labor secretary.

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Speaker 2: Seventy percent of that thirty billion in fraud was believed

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Speaker 2: to have been filed by criminal organizations. It is monetary

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Speaker 2: and criminal, a debacle on a scale not seen in

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Speaker 2: the United States. No, and we said that at the time.

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Speaker 2: We said that number is incredible. And I still think

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Speaker 3: Oh, I'm sure it is.

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Speaker 2: But and he writes here, there were no sweating government

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Speaker 2: multiple applications. There was some chatter and sacrament about owning

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Speaker 2: it and aggressively going after criminals committed fraud, but owning

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Speaker 2: it morphed into blaming the Trump administration and aggressively going

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Speaker 2: after criminals turned into championing themselves. You said that they

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Speaker 2: caught a criminal who applied and received unemployment benefits in

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Speaker 2: the name of convicted murderer Scott Peterson. So they got

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Speaker 1: You need you sent out the money. Trump didn't send

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Speaker 3: You did.

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Speaker 1: Julie Sue was running the department that sent out the

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Speaker 1: thirty billion dollars. And now if you own a business,

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Speaker 1: you have to make up the debt.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, because this is how it works. The federal government

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Speaker 2: actually starts all this. They play the role of the

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Speaker 2: state's disperser. And the amount is twenty billion dollars. So

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Speaker 2: California is going to have to pay that back to

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Speaker 2: the federal government. And these are the ways they're gonna

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Speaker 2: have to do it, either by making the small businesses

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Speaker 2: pay more per employee per year or by having Newsom

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Speaker 2: in the legislature do something. But we're in a deficit

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Speaker 3: To do anything.

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Speaker 1: Newsham didn't care either, I mean, he hired Julie Sue,

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Speaker 1: and it was it was in the news constantly about

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Speaker 1: the thirty billion going out the door.

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Speaker 2: Remember Newsom of this story we haven't mentioned lately. He

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Speaker 2: did not he blocked access to prisoner's social security numbers.

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Speaker 2: He thought that was some invasion of privacy. Yeah, and

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Speaker 2: this applicant is a prisoner.

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Speaker 1: So they chose to blow the money. And they figured, well,

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Speaker 1: if we ever get caught, if it becomes a disaster,

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Speaker 1: we'll just tax the small business owners four hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty per employed per year.

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Speaker 3: Who and who do you alle? Small business owners? Who

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Speaker 3: do you vote for? Do you vote for Newsom? Seriously?

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Speaker 1: You vote for a guy who hires Julie Sue and

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Speaker 1: they give away the money and then they come knocking

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Speaker 2: Wait, so they need to be on the hook for

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Speaker 2: She's getting a promotion because she's going to be the

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Speaker 1: This wasn't a mistake, This wasn't some unforeseen consequence. All

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Speaker 1: things happened. No, this wasn't a mistake. This isn't a hindsight.

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Speaker 1: This is they got up every day knowing that there

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Speaker 1: they knew that this was happening and they didn't care.

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Speaker 2: It's not a mistake, all right. Coming up next money.

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Speaker 2: All right, remember earlier in the show we talked about well,

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Speaker 2: we were talking about the weather, and then we made

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Speaker 2: our way to allergies, and then we made our way

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Speaker 2: to climate change. Remember all that, Yes, believe it or

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Speaker 2: not that Johnny Kenshaw got an email from a publicist. Hi, there,

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Speaker 2: American adults are reportedly suffering some of the worst allergies

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Speaker 2: in history thanks to climate change. And she's pitching a

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Speaker 2: it is the NBC News story adults are getting allergies

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Speaker 2: for the first time. Thanks Camma climate change, a pollen

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Speaker 2: storm and longer allergy seasons are sending a growing number

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Speaker 2: of adults in search of relief. Follen storm another catchy

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Speaker 2: little frame. People in their thirties, forties and fifties, you

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Speaker 2: never had to deal with this before and are experiencing

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Speaker 2: seasonal allergies.

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Speaker 3: How about that.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's a contrived scare.

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Speaker 3: Is what it is.

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Speaker 2: The cause the combustion of fossil fuels increases carbon dioxide.

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Speaker 2: As CO two levels go up, plants and trees produce

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Speaker 2: more pollen. That's the link here. According to the research,

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Speaker 2: it happens when.

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Speaker 3: You have a lot of rain.

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Speaker 2: But we knew this that trees absorb CO two right

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Speaker 2: where we talked about that usually it wasn't the idea

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Speaker 2: behind offsetting your carbon.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot more flowers blooming. I think everybody is

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Speaker 1: It's because these stupid pink flowers, which weren't But it

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Speaker 2: Nothing all right, Now we turn to a good one

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Speaker 2: I have a little jack that says ambassador on it,

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Speaker 2: about a big fight in West Hollywood which has people

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Speaker 3: Right here we go.

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Speaker 5: Take a look as two guys go after each other

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Speaker 3: I was like, ooh, this doesn't look too good.

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Speaker 5: It shows it failing. The video does appear to show

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Speaker 5: Mayor's office told me that's exactly what's expected to happen.

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Speaker 5: But Reynolds says anyone can call nine to one one.

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Speaker 6: If the block byke ambassadors are not empowered to go

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Speaker 5: It's lingering frustration for some Last June, with some controversy,

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Speaker 1: There are now.

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Speaker 5: Eighty five in Rehalth, and we did spot them all over.

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Speaker 5: But some locals say last year the city saw violent

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Speaker 7: You look at it and you can go Jesus, come on,

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Speaker 7: jump in there. Do something doesn't seem quite Whatever the

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Speaker 5: The mayor's office directed us to the city's website for

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Speaker 5: the policy. It clarifies the role as, among other things,

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Speaker 5: conducting safety escorts and responding to non violent calls. And

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Speaker 5: some agree there is value to a uniformed presence.

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Speaker 3: It's kind of like chicken soup. It doesn't hurt.

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Speaker 2: The more eyes watching, the better off we are.

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Speaker 5: But Reynolds says nowadays eyes and ears aren't enough.

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Speaker 6: If it's just a secondary step for providing true intervention,

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Speaker 6: I just don't see the point.

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Speaker 5: And West Hollywood's mayor has told me in the past

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Speaker 3: Word is de escalated, right.

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Speaker 1: You know what, when you have a real violent action

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Speaker 1: completely useless, completely useless. You have a phone, everybody's got

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Speaker 1: a phone. You're gonna have no effect. You need an

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Speaker 1: If an officer shows up and they can see he's

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Speaker 2: Of the time, that'll end it. Not a guy with

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get on my walkie talkie.

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Speaker 2: Immediately, I'm gonna tell mother on you. I'm making a call.

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Speaker 2: That is so ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: And so what happens I fight gets out of control,

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Speaker 1: No one's gonna stop it.

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Speaker 3: It's just gonna get crazier. You know.

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Speaker 1: Next fight, more people are gonna jump in because nobody's

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Speaker 1: gonna stop them. This is this ambassador nonsense. It's like

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Speaker 1: a cult. Oh we have ambassad Metro has ambassadors, right, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: Metro has all.

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Speaker 3: Kinds of yes, having more stampings and that's right.

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Speaker 1: People are getting set on fire on Metro trains, but

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Speaker 1: we have ambassadors. This that is the most feeble response,

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Speaker 1: foolish response. Possible. You need a big guy with a

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I there's no other way to do it.

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Speaker 2: This is all part of the defund the police movement, right.

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Speaker 2: This is they want to mental health people to answer calls,

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Speaker 1: It's all those silly words. Well, we have to have alternatives.

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Speaker 1: to we have to have non violent alternatives. No, when

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Speaker 1: There's no alternatives to this.

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Speaker 2: When we return, it's one awful, amazing story. We're going

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Speaker 2: to be talking to Attorney Brian Claypool. He had a

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Speaker 2: of Santa Monica in connection with the childhood sexual abuse

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Speaker 2: he would use his access to children, mostly immigrant boys,

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Speaker 2: So it's resulted in a huge payout by the city

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, Johnny KENKFIAM six forty Live everywhere iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 3: I misspoke before the break.

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Speaker 2: Santa Monica has settled more lawsuits dealing with a particular

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Speaker 3: Brian, thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 1: Two hundred and twenty nine million dollars is a staggering figure.

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Speaker 1: It's overwhelming. How did this guy get away with this

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Speaker 8: Yeah, this is one of the most staggering and shocking

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Speaker 8: He'd show up to this they call it the Powell Program,

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Speaker 8: He had a key nine dog that he walked around with, right,

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Speaker 8: So these kids all he's a cop. He starts taking

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna get your parents deported. And then one of

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Speaker 2: And it says here that apparently there was an investigation

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Speaker 8: YEA, so well, I'm aware of at these three reports

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Speaker 8: with some even more reports that were made. But make

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Speaker 8: no mistake about it, the PELP program and the City

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Speaker 3: Boys, So why not kick him out of these programs?

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Speaker 8: But dude, let's go one step further than that. Let's

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Speaker 1: was a guy at the at the pal events.

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Speaker 3: Who's who's telling all the kids he's a cop?

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Speaker 8: No, they knew, That's a great No. They knew. They knew,

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Speaker 8: And that's why I was demanding. I'm demanding an independent investigation.

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Speaker 8: Why have none of the police officers that were on duty.

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Speaker 8: Why wasn't the chief of police investigated? Why are there

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Speaker 8: no criminal repercussions. Let me just tell you point blank.

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Speaker 8: One of my clients looked the two police officers in

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Speaker 8: the face in the early nineties and said, what quote,

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Speaker 8: why are you letting mister Uller do what he's doing

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Speaker 8: to these boys? And you know what the cops said

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Speaker 8: to my thirteen year old client, He said, if you

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Speaker 8: bring that up again, I'm going to kick you out

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Speaker 8: of this program. That's how they handled it. So knew

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Speaker 8: what was going on.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to protect the program totally, which is what

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Speaker 1: they do at every school, every church, every boy Scout organization.

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Speaker 1: They want to protect the program. But why didn't they

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Speaker 1: make him disappear even if they didn't want to go

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Speaker 1: public with the whole mess? Why not just say, look,

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Speaker 1: we know what you're doing, get out. We don't see

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Speaker 1: your face again.

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Speaker 8: Well, I have a theory on that, and I will

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Speaker 8: tell you. I've talked to a former police officer that

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Speaker 8: worked in the city of Sanama when Uller was there,

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Speaker 8: and his theory, and I agree with this theory, is

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Speaker 8: that Aller had access to everything. Think about it, guys,

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Speaker 8: Any messages that are sent any emails that are sent

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Speaker 8: internally with the city, anything said by police officers, for example,

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Speaker 8: you know while they're in the car. It's like this guy.

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Speaker 8: What I've learned is people in the city Sannamaka were

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Speaker 8: terrified of Eric Aller because he held the key to

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Speaker 8: everything they were talking about. And I think a lot

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Speaker 8: of people in the police department within the city were

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Speaker 8: worried that he might have some dirt on them, and

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Speaker 8: they treated this guy like a king. He got in

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Speaker 8: two thousand and two, when he was still molesting boys

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Speaker 8: at pal the City of Anamonica gave him and a

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Speaker 8: work for the best employee of the City of Santa Monica.

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Speaker 3: Go figure, Wow, that's that.

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Speaker 2: He was awarded police Civilian Employee of the Year and

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Speaker 2: got a standing ovation.

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Speaker 8: Yeah so yeah, there it was.

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Speaker 1: So they knew he was he was molesting these kids,

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Speaker 1: but they also knew everything they had said and written

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Speaker 1: that he might have a record of.

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Speaker 3: And so they were all compromised.

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Speaker 2: This didn't unravel, it says, until twenty eighteen, and then

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Speaker 2: he killed himself. Yeah right, I mean, but who used

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Speaker 2: to be the mayor of Santa monak is now the police.

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Speaker 2: He's not the mayor of Inglewood, he was the police

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Speaker 2: chief in Santa Monica, said he never heard anything about

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Speaker 2: Uhler when he was there from nineteen ninety one to

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Speaker 2: two thousand and six.

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Speaker 3: I'd find that hard to find.

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Speaker 8: I mean yeah, I mean, guys, think about because I've

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Speaker 8: been on your show before with some of these cases.

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Speaker 8: Think about it, right, Like in some cases you have

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Speaker 8: maybe a doctor in a back room who's molesting a patient, right,

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Speaker 8: or or in a lot of these school cases, you've

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Speaker 8: got like a teacher in a dark, closed door room. Right.

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Speaker 8: That's different than this. It's like this, this dude showed

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Speaker 8: up every day being an impostor of a police officer.

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Speaker 8: And my argument is that the city city employees the

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Speaker 8: top dog chief of police. They are aiders and a

509
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Speaker 8: betters in the commission of this ongoing sex abuse. And

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Speaker 8: we need a new law. We need a law. Who's

511
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Speaker 8: going to be the state legislator it's going to call

512
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Speaker 8: me when you do law. When top executives in personnel

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Speaker 8: at a government entity, at a school, a university and

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Speaker 8: after school program, when they know or should know, there's

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Speaker 8: somebody's molesting kids on their watch, they should be prosecuted

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Speaker 8: criminally for child endangerment and until we get a law,

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Speaker 8: it's got some teeth in it, We're going to keep

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Speaker 8: seeing this garbage happening.

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Speaker 2: All right, Brian, thank you so much, very passionate, and

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Speaker 2: we hope you hear from somebody let us know.

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Speaker 8: Okay, Yeah, thanks guys for covering.

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Speaker 3: This, all right.

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Speaker 2: Brian Claypole, an attorney, represented many victims of sex abuse,

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Speaker 2: and in this case, an incredible story, incredibly bad story

525
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Speaker 2: out of Santa Monica involving a volunteer at the police

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Speaker 2: Department's molesting boys for decades.

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Speaker 1: Over eager men who want to volunteer helping boy.

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Speaker 3: Well, they all knew he was always taking them for

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Speaker 3: rides and stuff.

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Speaker 1: No, I mean that just screams child molester. And everybody

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Speaker 1: should be suspicious of a guy like that. That's not

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Speaker 1: what guys want to get involved in.

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Speaker 2: All right, More coming up, Johnny Ken KFI AM six

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Speaker 2: number one eight seven seven Moist eighty six one eight

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Speaker 2: seven seven, six, six, four seven eighty eight six. Well,

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's hard to keep up with what Generation Z.

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Speaker 2: Those are people that were born from nineteen ninety seven onwards.

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Speaker 2: So the oldest of them now would be by twenty five,

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Speaker 2: twenty six years old.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: According to a recent survey of thirteen hundred managers, three

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Speaker 2: out of four agree that this is the hardest generation

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Speaker 2: they've ever had to work with. Sixty five percent said

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Speaker 2: they've had to fire the more often than they thought

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Speaker 2: they would. One in eight have let go of a

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Speaker 2: Gen Z or less than one week after their start date.

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Speaker 2: What are the problems with this particular group of this

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Speaker 2: particular generation of workers. Well, a lot of it focuses

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Speaker 2: around the office, and they think the pandemic really caused

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Speaker 2: a problem here. They don't concentrate or pay attention. Everybody's

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Speaker 2: scrolling through their phones. They don't understand a business setting

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Speaker 2: or how office operates. They don't understand a hierarchy. One

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Speaker 2: guy said, they're all experiencing to me, some weird type

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Speaker 2: of behavior. I was taught when I got here how

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Speaker 2: office operates, whether it's dealing with a hierarchy or just

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Speaker 2: something as simple as when someone's in front of you,

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Speaker 2: you actually look them in the eye.

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Speaker 1: They are phone zombies, said one. That's all they do

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Speaker 1: is scroll. Yeah, they keep their heads down and scroll.

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Speaker 1: This is a generation of toddlers. They're emotionally oversensitive and

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Speaker 1: they've spent their lives staring at screens, whether it's video

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Speaker 1: games or you know, the Internet.

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Speaker 2: It's always this fear of missing out. So they're constantly

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Speaker 2: looking for or what people are posting on social media

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Speaker 2: and what their friends are doing and what's their friend.

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Speaker 1: And because if you're working eight hours, that's eight hours

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Speaker 1: worth of posts they've already flown by you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah you could easily.

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Speaker 1: You may never touch, you may never catch up. So

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Speaker 1: this is this is if you had, if you hired

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Speaker 1: a group of eight year olds, this is the kind

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Speaker 1: of analysis I would expect.

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Speaker 2: One guy says, they seem to want to come in

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Speaker 2: here and determine when and how they do work. They

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Speaker 2: sort of expect that they're taking over the office, and

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Speaker 2: they determine independently how this works. Even though they've been

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Speaker 2: hired to work in a business and you're supposed to

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Speaker 2: comply with how the business operates. He says, a lot

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Speaker 2: of them come in and just decide what they're going

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Speaker 2: to do, and then how often they work and what

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Speaker 2: they do.

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Speaker 1: That's one doctor said that it's creeping into the medical

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Speaker 1: field field. They start asking for things like, oh, I

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Speaker 1: don't want to see patients, Well, you work in a

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Speaker 1: medical office. One guy says, it's really a problem with language.

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Speaker 1: I feel hamsh wrong what I can say and can't say.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to offend any want to trigger someone.

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Speaker 1: This guy is talking about the toddlers. I always have

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Speaker 1: it in the back of my mind that I'm going

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Speaker 1: to get angry one day and I'm gonna get freaking canceled.

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Speaker 2: Some feel like they're walking on eggshells, afraid they're going

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Speaker 2: to offend their own subordinates.

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Speaker 3: Tell them to screw off.

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Speaker 1: You got a bunch of little babies come in, and

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Speaker 1: you've got to worry about what you say in front

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Speaker 1: of them.

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Speaker 3: Send them home. I don't take a nap.

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Speaker 2: Some level accusations like white supremacist colonialists that they learned

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Speaker 2: from their professors.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, get out the door, out no one, no wonder,

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Speaker 1: no wonder. They're getting fired in a week. You hear

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Speaker 1: that once, it's like, all right, you're go get in

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Speaker 1: the car.

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Speaker 3: I'll send they lack they have no inambitional I don't

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Speaker 3: know how. I don't know how this generation was made.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I was not aware this was going on in

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Speaker 1: the schools all this time. That really had a huge impact.

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Speaker 1: And I have two of my three kid or gen

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Speaker 1: Z's think about it. You might be shocked to find

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Speaker 1: they're not like this.

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Speaker 2: What comes after gen Z? The last ten years after

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Speaker 2: I don't know stuff we've gone through. Time to check out.

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Speaker 2: We got Conway here.

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Speaker 3: Hey no, hey, bed Bugs and Beyond is going out

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Speaker 3: of business. That's a wrap.

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Speaker 9: So, but a lot of stores, you know, they're not

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Speaker 9: taking the coupon. Some stores are some stores aren't a

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Speaker 9: lot of confusion out there. So I'm gonna settle it

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Speaker 9: for everybody. I'll tackle that is.

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Speaker 3: My wife's devastated, seriously. Yeah, my wife has been affected

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Speaker 3: by it too. Yeah in it she's in mourning. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I get that. I get that.

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Speaker 9: It's a big store with those coupons. I think that's

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Speaker 9: a did them end? Everyone gets twenty percent off.

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Speaker 1: Everything, Like if they close Santa Anita that's what Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they almost did during the pandemic, and I would that

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Speaker 1: would be the end.

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Speaker 3: I mean, what would I do on weekends? Right?

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Speaker 9: The Knob fires burned one hundred and thirty one acres

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Speaker 9: in sam Bernardino, but I think we'll a lot of

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Speaker 9: tackle that. And then Pasadena approves the purchase of a

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Speaker 9: vacant Kaiser Permanente building. He uses affordable housing site. I

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Speaker 9: thought that's what Kaiser Permanente was anyway.

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Speaker 3: An affordable housing site. I don't know, never been in.

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Speaker 3: I've never been in one of those things. Uh. And

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Speaker 3: the Colorado River is reaching Lake Meat Oh cool? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so all right we're all gonna flood.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, yes, yes, it'll be a big three hours on

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Speaker 9: KFID let's go for.

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