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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. Welcome everybody. It's now week

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Speaker 1: sixteen of the NFL season. My name is Peter Schreger.

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Speaker 1: I'm the host of this podcast. We call it The

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Speaker 1: Season with Peter Schrager. I'm joined by my producer, Aaron

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Speaker 1: wang Kaufman, who is out in the boondocks of Maine. Aaron,

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Speaker 1: I'm looking at you in a log cabin. I know

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Speaker 1: it's holiday time, but there's like weird lights going on.

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Speaker 1: Are you where? What is your situation right now?

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Speaker 2: So I'm up at my parents' place for the holidays

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Speaker 2: and I am in like my dad's workshop, his wood shop,

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Speaker 2: and we have no power because there were huge storms

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Speaker 2: last night, so we're running off generators. Yeah, I'm I

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Speaker 2: know New York got hit too with a bunch of stuff,

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Speaker 2: and like.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, York dude.

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Speaker 1: First of all, thank you. I love the fact that

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Speaker 1: you still found a way to get on us the

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Speaker 1: generator Thoughts and prayers. Obviously, we always give thoughts in

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Speaker 1: prayers what we do, but this is cool, Aaron. A

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Speaker 1: week ago at this time, we had Shawn Stillado on

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Speaker 1: our podcast, It was the first time a lot of

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Speaker 1: people had ever heard of Shawn Stolato. It was fresh

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Speaker 1: off his Monday Night appearance. What a difference a week makes.

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Speaker 1: In the week that followed our clip of Shawn Stillado

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Speaker 1: being interviewed on the season with Peter Schrager not only

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Speaker 1: ran on The Today Show, then also ran on NBC

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Speaker 1: with Willie Geist on their Sunday show. He did a

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Speaker 1: whole thing on it. But more importantly, Seawan star was

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Speaker 1: like a what would you even call like in the

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Speaker 1: the superva? A super Nova's perfect all right because it burst.

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Speaker 1: Let me explained super nova in that. After doing our show,

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Speaker 1: he did Pat McAfee show, which of course got big love.

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Speaker 1: I think he did part of my interruption with the

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Speaker 1: with with Wilbond and Court. Maybe he didn't do that,

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Speaker 1: Maybe he was on another ESPN show. I'm sorry. Then

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Speaker 1: he did Barstool in Chicago. I saw them taking photos

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Speaker 1: with them, the PMT guys who I love. Then Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Fallon on Friday Night did an entire spoof not on

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Speaker 1: de veto on Stillato, like Stilado got so big that

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Speaker 1: Fallon wasn't even like here's the eight here, here's Tommy,

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Speaker 1: agent of the quarterback in New York. So then Stellato

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Speaker 1: on Friday, Adam Schefter tweeted out, we knew it from

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Speaker 1: the podcast last week. Stellato is the UH inductee this

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Speaker 1: year and one of many in a very distinguished class

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Speaker 1: to the National Italian American Sports Hall of Fame. Now

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Speaker 1: he goes in into Chicago, go he has a whole

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Speaker 1: induction Friday. The Schefter posts the news. Everyone has their

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Speaker 1: their jokes or their kudos. All that. I think Stillado

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Speaker 1: warmed up. A lot of people warmed up to Stillado

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Speaker 1: over these interviews. They're like, all right, this guy, he's

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Speaker 1: got two clients in the NFL right now. One of

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Speaker 1: them is is time of de Vito. You got to

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Speaker 1: respect it, the Veto and him. It's a family thing.

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Speaker 1: It's great Sunday rolls around and I'll give you a

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Speaker 1: little behind the curtain. I've got to give a I've

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Speaker 1: done millions of interviews where people ask me what's the

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Speaker 1: differentiator between your Good Morning Football work and your Fox

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Speaker 1: NFL kickoff work? So on Good Morning Football Monday to Friday,

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Speaker 1: I look at myself more as host, analyst, entertainer, content insider.

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Speaker 1: So when it comes to draft and like coaching hires,

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Speaker 1: like I'll put on the insider hat first. But day

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Speaker 1: to day we have the services of Ian Rappaport and

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Speaker 1: Tom Pelsaro and Mike Rafo. They're gonna be the ones

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Speaker 1: who we're gonna tell you if Allen Hurts is going

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Speaker 1: through a sickness. They're gonna be the ones to tell

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Speaker 1: you that Shaq Leonard might actually sign with the Eagles

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Speaker 1: or the Cowboys. Like that's there on the weekends, I

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Speaker 1: am insider. That is my role. Inside around Fox, We've

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Speaker 1: got a show and it's Carissa Thompson, the Lovely, amazing CHRISA. Thompson,

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Speaker 1: with Julian Edelman, Charles Woodson, Michael Vick and myself. It

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Speaker 1: is us. It is not the four of them and

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Speaker 1: then Shrieker you know, come in. I am in every

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Speaker 1: as we lead up to kickoff. There's a very specific

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Speaker 1: role and I love it, but it's here's the stuff

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Speaker 1: this case it's it's eleven am Eastern till about eleven ten.

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Speaker 1: The first six minutes are going to be those guys

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Speaker 1: talking about the headlines and they're going to toss to

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Speaker 1: already been watching NFL work for five hours, a new

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Speaker 1: pregame getting ready. We've everve been watching schefter. He's already

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Speaker 1: had three hits. What can I give that no one

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Speaker 1: else has? And sometimes it's like the Kingsbury nugget from

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Speaker 1: Another example would be Trevor Lawrence last week in their

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Speaker 1: game against Cleveland. Everyone's hedging their bets. Everyone's riding the fence.

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Speaker 1: He might play, he might not. We're gonna see it's

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Speaker 1: a game time decision. Well an actives are out at

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Speaker 1: eleven thirty. I have no problem, you know, boasting and

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Speaker 1: tooting my horns saying at eleven am, I come on Fox,

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Speaker 1: like Lawrence is gonna play? Why Because someone there in

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Speaker 1: the team told me Lawren's gonna play. He's gonna play,

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Speaker 1: and he played this week. Come out there. I do

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Speaker 1: a little couple, couple easy ones and say, you know,

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Speaker 1: went and the conversations that are having. Okay, fine, check

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Speaker 1: the box, all right, next thing, Tyreek, we actually don't

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Speaker 1: know yet. And I know that doesn't sound like news,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna play. Houston Texans, no Stroud, no Nico.

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Speaker 1: They're up against it, but they love case Keenum. Here's

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Speaker 1: what case Keenum did this week for you. But my scoop,

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Speaker 1: want to get into the punts, my scoop de jure.

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Speaker 1: I had shown Stillado's outfit before anyone else had it.

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Speaker 1: I texted Stilado Sunday morning. I said I know this

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Speaker 1: sounds crazy. Send me whatever you're wearing. I want it.

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Speaker 1: to share with the audience. Stillado, the mensch that he is,

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Speaker 1: sends me this beautiful green suit, green pants, Jordan's all

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Speaker 1: the green suit, there is a patch. And the patch

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Speaker 1: an inducted member to the National Italian American Sports Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame. Now I show this picture, ninety five percent

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Speaker 1: enough for done the craziest thing. And I have not

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Speaker 1: followed up with Sean because I will tell you we'll

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Speaker 1: I had not heard from Sean, but someone and there

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Speaker 1: agent community. If you think high school is a caddy community,

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Speaker 1: have me on the pocket. Stellato Stillado stirs up a

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Speaker 1: the tummy de Vito story. If if you take what

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Speaker 1: with the Bills still having a lot of relevance and

424
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Speaker 1: the Chargers being down, was there any discussion of flipping

425
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Speaker 1: those two and saying maybe putting Bill's Chargers on the

426
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Speaker 1: four thirty window and maybe flopping Steelers Bengals the later one.

427
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Speaker 3: I'm sure there was. I don't think it was really

428
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Speaker 3: that serious. I think the idea all along was the

429
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Speaker 3: you know, call it traditional if you will, like the

430
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Speaker 3: more traditional late season divisional battle sounds like the broadcast

431
00:22:47,106 --> 00:22:51,826
Speaker 3: television offering. And then, like you said, we've been dipping

432
00:22:51,826 --> 00:22:54,866
Speaker 3: our toe into the water on streaming for years. Certainly

433
00:22:54,906 --> 00:22:58,346
Speaker 3: Amazon has demonstrated the ability to deliver you know, broadcast

434
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Speaker 3: level numbers on Thursday nights. So the streaming is obviously strategic,

435
00:23:02,666 --> 00:23:05,866
Speaker 3: obviously important, but also here to stay. I think this

436
00:23:05,946 --> 00:23:08,026
Speaker 3: is the new normal. And like you said, what used

437
00:23:08,026 --> 00:23:11,666
Speaker 3: to be non traditional windows, non traditional broadcast partners. I

438
00:23:11,706 --> 00:23:13,466
Speaker 3: think these things are going to become more traditional down

439
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Speaker 3: the road. And I think, like we said, Bill's Chargers

440
00:23:15,666 --> 00:23:19,386
Speaker 3: in May sounded fun, felt fun, still relevant, It's still good.

441
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Speaker 3: Obviously didn't necessarily see East and Stick in our crystal ball,

442
00:23:23,346 --> 00:23:25,826
Speaker 3: but you know, the Bills still have everything to play

443
00:23:25,826 --> 00:23:28,706
Speaker 3: for and playing really good. So I think it's it's

444
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Speaker 3: still gonna be fun for the fans to find. And

445
00:23:30,386 --> 00:23:33,466
Speaker 3: you're right. If fans are still wondering at eight o'clock

446
00:23:33,506 --> 00:23:36,266
Speaker 3: on Saturday night, where's this game, we haven't done a

447
00:23:36,266 --> 00:23:38,786
Speaker 3: good job promoting it and explaining it's part.

448
00:23:38,626 --> 00:23:40,226
Speaker 1: Of the reason why we have you on today. Is

449
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Speaker 1: kind of helped, you know, spread the word.

450
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Speaker 3: Always happy to do it.

451
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Speaker 1: So that's Saturday. Then we go to Christmas Eve, which

452
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Speaker 1: is this real interesting kind of mesh of traditional Sunday

453
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Speaker 1: but then interesting wrinkle at night. Am I wrong?

454
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Speaker 3: No? No, you got a one hundred percent right. Once

455
00:24:01,986 --> 00:24:04,546
Speaker 3: NBC kind of approached us with, hey, is there a

456
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Speaker 3: way to move off of Sunday night football that we

457
00:24:07,226 --> 00:24:09,346
Speaker 3: and they've played on Christmas Eve before, they've played on

458
00:24:09,426 --> 00:24:12,746
Speaker 3: Christmas Day before, like sometimes the calendar just falls where

459
00:24:12,786 --> 00:24:15,426
Speaker 3: it falls on NFL days. But once we started thinking

460
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Speaker 3: about moving NBC Big NBC to Saturday to use it

461
00:24:19,466 --> 00:24:22,546
Speaker 3: as to drive into peacock, we had a Sunday night

462
00:24:22,666 --> 00:24:25,626
Speaker 3: window where you know, like you said, most Sundays we

463
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Speaker 3: play on Sunday night after a usual CBS and Fox

464
00:24:28,186 --> 00:24:32,146
Speaker 3: afternoon slate and that's where an NFL network opportunity comes in.

465
00:24:32,226 --> 00:24:34,666
Speaker 3: You talk about unorthodox windows. Think about all the different

466
00:24:34,666 --> 00:24:37,546
Speaker 3: places NFL network's been this year with the nine thirty

467
00:24:37,546 --> 00:24:40,306
Speaker 3: ams and then the triple header on Saturday. Now we've

468
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Speaker 3: got Christmas Eve. There's sort of the glue that kind

469
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Speaker 3: of holds it all together. When there's a window that

470
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Speaker 3: is appropriate for NFL football on NFL Network, you know,

471
00:24:51,506 --> 00:24:55,306
Speaker 3: broadcast crew and talent, it sounds like football, it feels

472
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Speaker 3: like football. Obviously, Patriots Broncos isn't everything. We hope it

473
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Speaker 3: would be back in May, but the Broncos are still

474
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Speaker 3: squarely on these things. So you know, lucky enough to

475
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Speaker 3: have all these windows with at least one, if not

476
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Speaker 3: two teams still in playoff contention, and then all that

477
00:25:09,066 --> 00:25:13,826
Speaker 3: will still then leave another triple header for Monday for Christmas.

478
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Speaker 3: We had phenomenal success last year. I think you and

479
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Speaker 3: I talked about this in May. We always talked about

480
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Speaker 3: the incredible viewership and ratings for NFL games. Whatever it is,

481
00:25:23,466 --> 00:25:25,266
Speaker 3: forty eight of the top fifty, ninety seven of the

482
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Speaker 3: top one hundred. Maybe the most impressive rating from last

483
00:25:28,626 --> 00:25:30,866
Speaker 3: year might have been that Broncos Rams Christmas game.

484
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Speaker 1: We talked about it. It was kind of.

485
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Speaker 3: Playing out the string and still twenty three twenty five

486
00:25:35,026 --> 00:25:39,146
Speaker 3: million people watching. So this year the triple header shaping

487
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Speaker 3: up to be pretty sexy. Really excited about this again.

488
00:25:43,226 --> 00:25:44,666
Speaker 3: I think we talked about this and may kind of

489
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Speaker 3: go out to the clubs and ask who'd be interested.

490
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Speaker 3: How do you think your fans would react to coming

491
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Speaker 3: out on Christmas? And Kansas City and Philly both kind

492
00:25:52,906 --> 00:25:54,906
Speaker 3: of put their hands up. San Francisco as well, And

493
00:25:54,946 --> 00:25:57,826
Speaker 3: then you try to slot in the right opponents, and yeah,

494
00:25:57,866 --> 00:26:00,586
Speaker 3: you got three games that are pretty relevant for just

495
00:26:00,626 --> 00:26:04,586
Speaker 3: about everybody and culminating with maybe Game of the Year

496
00:26:04,626 --> 00:26:07,106
Speaker 3: type stuff. When you're thinking about Ravens Niners on Monday.

497
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Speaker 1: Night, think about that Ravens at Niners Monday Night, Christmas Day,

498
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Speaker 1: Christmas evening. But like I'm gonna go backwards. You got

499
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Speaker 1: Cowboys Dolphins on Sunday, and that's good point. There's a

500
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Speaker 1: Monster game also in the middle of the sandwich that

501
00:26:25,946 --> 00:26:27,866
Speaker 1: day is but three days? Was that? So? Is that

502
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Speaker 1: moving forward or is it just because well, obviously because

503
00:26:30,306 --> 00:26:32,426
Speaker 1: Christmas falls on a Monday, But are we gonna always

504
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Speaker 1: do a Christmas Day triple header.

505
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Speaker 3: And now I think I don't know about always. I mean,

506
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Speaker 3: I think Christmas is a Wednesday next year, So I'm

507
00:26:38,706 --> 00:26:40,826
Speaker 3: not sure we're gonna I'm not sure we're gonna get

508
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Speaker 3: in there. But there's gonna be days when Christmas falls on,

509
00:26:44,026 --> 00:26:46,466
Speaker 3: you know, normal NFL days quote unquote, like on a

510
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Speaker 3: Thursday in a couple of years, like Amazon will be

511
00:26:49,066 --> 00:26:51,066
Speaker 3: there would there be room for another game in the

512
00:26:51,106 --> 00:26:55,466
Speaker 3: afternoon maybe, But when it falls on like this Saturday, Sunday,

513
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Speaker 3: Monday kind of in our traditional wheelhouse, Yeah, we've got

514
00:26:59,946 --> 00:27:01,826
Speaker 3: the inventory if we feel like we can still make

515
00:27:01,866 --> 00:27:04,506
Speaker 3: decent Sunday afternoon schedules like you hinted at, you know,

516
00:27:04,546 --> 00:27:07,626
Speaker 3: you take all the best inventory off of Sunday and

517
00:27:07,626 --> 00:27:10,666
Speaker 3: you put it on Thursday or Saturday or Monday. What's

518
00:27:10,746 --> 00:27:13,706
Speaker 3: left for Sunday afternoon. That's still the lifeblood of this league.

519
00:27:13,706 --> 00:27:16,146
Speaker 3: That's still where most fans, you know, watch their home

520
00:27:16,186 --> 00:27:18,586
Speaker 3: team at one o'clock and then a big doubleheader like

521
00:27:18,626 --> 00:27:21,106
Speaker 3: you said, a Cowboys Dolphins game this Sunday at four thirty.

522
00:27:22,106 --> 00:27:24,066
Speaker 3: You don't want to take all the inventory off of

523
00:27:24,106 --> 00:27:26,546
Speaker 3: Sunday just as you're trying to populate these other windows.

524
00:27:26,586 --> 00:27:28,906
Speaker 3: You got to leave some good stuff behind still for

525
00:27:29,386 --> 00:27:32,106
Speaker 3: like you said, the traditional, the orthodox windows. So it's

526
00:27:32,146 --> 00:27:35,306
Speaker 3: all one big dance, one big sort of accordion, a

527
00:27:35,306 --> 00:27:38,386
Speaker 3: little more, a little less, a little more flexibility, and

528
00:27:38,506 --> 00:27:41,146
Speaker 3: just trying to hopefully hit on the right games and

529
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Speaker 3: the right windows when you finally get to them. Here

530
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Speaker 3: six months, eight months, seven months after you know, the

531
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Speaker 3: schedule came out.

532
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Speaker 1: All right, So you know, I'm fascinated by this stuff.

533
00:27:48,986 --> 00:27:51,866
Speaker 1: Maybe we're fascinating the broadcasting and scheduling than the actual

534
00:27:51,866 --> 00:27:54,906
Speaker 1: football themselves. You and I always are talking on this podcast,

535
00:27:54,906 --> 00:27:56,666
Speaker 1: but I also try to like text you one off

536
00:27:56,706 --> 00:27:59,626
Speaker 1: questions I have so to explain why you wouldn't get

537
00:27:59,666 --> 00:28:04,946
Speaker 1: a flex out of Christmas Eve. You know, Broncos Patriots

538
00:28:04,946 --> 00:28:06,666
Speaker 1: that came to an NFL network. It's not NBC. See,

539
00:28:06,706 --> 00:28:10,146
Speaker 1: it's not Fox, it's not Amazon's Monday Night Football. NFL

540
00:28:10,226 --> 00:28:12,466
Speaker 1: network isn't gonna be able to flex out of anything.

541
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Speaker 1: So we take what we get and it's Patriots Broncos.

542
00:28:15,506 --> 00:28:18,266
Speaker 1: It's still Belichick on Christmas Eve, and it's still Russell

543
00:28:18,306 --> 00:28:20,826
Speaker 1: Wilson and Sean Payton, which now becomes a little saucier

544
00:28:20,826 --> 00:28:22,866
Speaker 1: after what we saw on the sideline last weekend.

545
00:28:23,306 --> 00:28:26,346
Speaker 3: Yeah, fascinating storylines all around. And we talked, you know,

546
00:28:26,746 --> 00:28:30,186
Speaker 3: or I talked a week or two ago with Peter King,

547
00:28:30,266 --> 00:28:32,186
Speaker 3: Jimmy train Or we were talking about flexing out of

548
00:28:32,186 --> 00:28:34,826
Speaker 3: that Patriots Monday night game, which we did, which was

549
00:28:34,866 --> 00:28:38,426
Speaker 3: Eagle Seahawks last night. You know, anybody still wanting to

550
00:28:38,466 --> 00:28:40,586
Speaker 3: follow the Patriots are going to have their opportunity. They

551
00:28:40,586 --> 00:28:42,586
Speaker 3: were on Thursday night last week. They're on Sunday night

552
00:28:42,626 --> 00:28:45,866
Speaker 3: this week and still playing hard, right, held the Chargers

553
00:28:45,906 --> 00:28:49,186
Speaker 3: to you know, six points or whatever it was, went

554
00:28:49,226 --> 00:28:51,266
Speaker 3: and gave the Chiefs all they could handle. I mean,

555
00:28:51,266 --> 00:28:54,506
Speaker 3: they're still playing hard, and anybody who doubts that, you know,

556
00:28:54,586 --> 00:28:56,586
Speaker 3: to tune in to watch they are playing hard. And

557
00:28:56,866 --> 00:29:00,306
Speaker 3: like you said, Denver, after that start, still in this thing.

558
00:29:01,066 --> 00:29:02,266
Speaker 3: Definitely an interesting.

559
00:29:05,546 --> 00:29:07,826
Speaker 1: And it's funny loss I talked about on Good Morning

560
00:29:07,866 --> 00:29:10,346
Speaker 1: Football today. If they win, they're into playoffs right now.

561
00:29:10,386 --> 00:29:12,426
Speaker 1: If they had one against Detroit, right they're in. Yeah.

562
00:29:12,506 --> 00:29:14,866
Speaker 1: The loss knocks them all the way down to eleventh

563
00:29:14,906 --> 00:29:17,706
Speaker 1: in the AFC and they're four and five in the conference,

564
00:29:17,746 --> 00:29:18,906
Speaker 1: behind even Pittsburgh.

565
00:29:18,946 --> 00:29:21,906
Speaker 3: It just shows that's marges how everybody's bunched up so tight.

566
00:29:22,186 --> 00:29:25,106
Speaker 3: One game makes all the difference, so crazy, but still

567
00:29:25,146 --> 00:29:26,986
Speaker 3: a chance to get healthy. And just to go back

568
00:29:26,986 --> 00:29:29,626
Speaker 3: on one thing you said, you know, correct, we don't

569
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Speaker 3: have flexible scheduling for Sunday Night. But when you say,

570
00:29:32,346 --> 00:29:34,226
Speaker 3: I know you're half joking, but NFL Network we get

571
00:29:34,266 --> 00:29:36,426
Speaker 3: what we get. Don't forget you guys have a form

572
00:29:36,466 --> 00:29:38,146
Speaker 3: of flexible schedule talking.

573
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Speaker 1: About we don't have.

574
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Speaker 3: Yes, that is true, but even the TVD stuff on Saturday,

575
00:29:44,146 --> 00:29:45,946
Speaker 3: you know, like we said, allowed us to pick three

576
00:29:45,946 --> 00:29:48,906
Speaker 3: of five get three good games on for NFL Network.

577
00:29:48,946 --> 00:29:51,826
Speaker 3: And I think our fans, our clubs, our stadium operators,

578
00:29:51,826 --> 00:29:54,146
Speaker 3: and our broadcasters are kind of getting used to this

579
00:29:54,226 --> 00:29:57,066
Speaker 3: concept of TBD. You have to be a little bit flexible.

580
00:29:57,066 --> 00:29:59,906
Speaker 3: We all do. Everything's written in pencil, and we're guessing,

581
00:29:59,986 --> 00:30:01,626
Speaker 3: you know, six months ago, which of these games are

582
00:30:01,666 --> 00:30:04,426
Speaker 3: going to matter, and then we haven't gotten there yet.

583
00:30:04,466 --> 00:30:06,626
Speaker 3: But as we look ahead to Week eighteen, literally really

584
00:30:06,706 --> 00:30:10,506
Speaker 3: every game is TBD, all sixteen games Week eighteen could

585
00:30:10,546 --> 00:30:13,026
Speaker 3: be Saturday, could be Sunday, could be Sunday Night. I

586
00:30:13,026 --> 00:30:16,466
Speaker 3: think this TBD flexibility decide when we get closer shorter

587
00:30:16,626 --> 00:30:19,306
Speaker 3: runway obviously helps us put the right games in the

588
00:30:19,346 --> 00:30:19,746
Speaker 3: right window.

589
00:30:19,746 --> 00:30:21,706
Speaker 1: Okay, this is interesting. So we're in week sixteen now,

590
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Speaker 1: we just went through the slate. Are there Saturday games

591
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Speaker 1: on Week seventeen?

592
00:30:25,946 --> 00:30:28,706
Speaker 3: Are there Saturday games in Week seventeen? There are again

593
00:30:29,066 --> 00:30:33,586
Speaker 3: a little non traditional. We're not playing the NFL Network

594
00:30:33,586 --> 00:30:37,266
Speaker 3: triple header, Okay, but we're playing ESPN Monday Night Football

595
00:30:37,906 --> 00:30:42,066
Speaker 3: on Saturday on Saturday Night Monday, January one. Traditional Bowl

596
00:30:42,106 --> 00:30:44,746
Speaker 3: games they've got I think the two CFP semifinals, y

597
00:30:45,346 --> 00:30:49,186
Speaker 3: So we're gonna move the Monday Night Football game from

598
00:30:49,226 --> 00:30:52,266
Speaker 3: Week seventeen to Saturday night December, and again talk about

599
00:30:52,346 --> 00:30:55,946
Speaker 3: rolling the dice. That's December thirtieth, and that's Detroit Dallas,

600
00:30:56,026 --> 00:31:00,226
Speaker 3: and so again in May you know, Lions Cowboys. You

601
00:31:00,386 --> 00:31:02,546
Speaker 3: hoped was going to be pretty relevant down the stretch.

602
00:31:02,586 --> 00:31:05,626
Speaker 3: It's probably bigger than we could have expected. Game could

603
00:31:05,626 --> 00:31:07,346
Speaker 3: have two teams playing for the one seed, depending on

604
00:31:07,386 --> 00:31:10,706
Speaker 3: what happens on Christmas out in San France. So yeah,

605
00:31:10,746 --> 00:31:13,826
Speaker 3: that'll be a Saturday game. Week seventeen, it'll be Saturday

606
00:31:13,906 --> 00:31:16,826
Speaker 3: night only, and then a full slate of Sunday including

607
00:31:16,866 --> 00:31:20,746
Speaker 3: Sunday Night on NBC no NFL game on Monday of seventeen.

608
00:31:21,186 --> 00:31:22,906
Speaker 3: The good news is that I'll allow us to set

609
00:31:22,906 --> 00:31:26,386
Speaker 3: the week eighteen schedule Sunday night instead of Monday night,

610
00:31:26,426 --> 00:31:28,346
Speaker 3: so everybody gets a twenty four hour head start on

611
00:31:28,546 --> 00:31:32,106
Speaker 3: planning and charters, hotels, tickets, traveling.

612
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Speaker 1: You call it an accordion. I think it's a beautiful puzzle.

613
00:31:35,586 --> 00:31:37,546
Speaker 1: Like it's cool to watch it un fould. I love

614
00:31:37,586 --> 00:31:40,426
Speaker 1: dissecting it. That game, That Saturday night game is a

615
00:31:40,506 --> 00:31:43,226
Speaker 1: huge one. Lions, Cowboys. Did you say that's on ESPN

616
00:31:43,266 --> 00:31:45,506
Speaker 1: or ESPN plus? What's the is it streaming? Is it not?

617
00:31:45,506 --> 00:31:46,746
Speaker 1: I just want to get it all on my head.

618
00:31:47,306 --> 00:31:50,626
Speaker 3: That one's on ESPN and ABC, that one simulcast on

619
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Speaker 3: both like they've done for most of the Monday nights

620
00:31:53,666 --> 00:31:54,066
Speaker 3: this year.

621
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Speaker 1: It's a monster game, dude.

622
00:31:57,066 --> 00:31:59,666
Speaker 3: Monster game, Monster game. They've had some big ones. Obviously,

623
00:31:59,706 --> 00:32:03,266
Speaker 3: Philly case was awesome. I do think Christmas Night is

624
00:32:03,266 --> 00:32:04,826
Speaker 3: going to be great with balth San Fran and to

625
00:32:04,906 --> 00:32:07,546
Speaker 3: finish it up with Detroit Dallas, a pretty good run

626
00:32:07,546 --> 00:32:08,186
Speaker 3: for our friends from.

627
00:32:08,226 --> 00:32:11,026
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Disney doing flips right now. Okay, not

628
00:32:11,106 --> 00:32:14,186
Speaker 1: to get too ahead of ourselves. Playoffs, we now have

629
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Speaker 1: the seven teams in the AFC, the seven teams in

630
00:32:17,946 --> 00:32:20,866
Speaker 1: the NFC, you have the one seed getting buys, meaning

631
00:32:20,906 --> 00:32:24,986
Speaker 1: that Wildcard round is an absolute beauty. And I love

632
00:32:25,026 --> 00:32:27,346
Speaker 1: the fact there's so much football. What are the days

633
00:32:27,346 --> 00:32:29,226
Speaker 1: in the windows for the playoffs this year?

634
00:32:29,786 --> 00:32:31,786
Speaker 3: Yeah, A couple of years ago when we expanded the

635
00:32:31,826 --> 00:32:34,266
Speaker 3: playoffs and expanded the regular season, we locked into a

636
00:32:34,306 --> 00:32:39,146
Speaker 3: wild card weekend of two games on Saturday four point

637
00:32:39,146 --> 00:32:42,746
Speaker 3: thirty and eight, three games on Sunday one o'clock, four thirty,

638
00:32:42,786 --> 00:32:45,586
Speaker 3: eight o'clock, the usual, and then a Monday night wild

639
00:32:45,586 --> 00:32:47,586
Speaker 3: card game. We've had a couple of good ones there.

640
00:32:47,626 --> 00:32:50,986
Speaker 3: It was Rams Cardinals. I think last year in the

641
00:32:51,426 --> 00:32:54,226
Speaker 3: Dallas Tampa last year could be heading straight back for

642
00:32:54,306 --> 00:32:57,826
Speaker 3: Dallas Tampa. No, maybe let's see a philiate. Also, thank you.

643
00:32:58,266 --> 00:32:59,906
Speaker 3: I think you even texted me, right, I think you

644
00:32:59,986 --> 00:33:04,426
Speaker 3: texted me we might be heading for Rams Lions.

645
00:33:04,226 --> 00:33:05,986
Speaker 1: Jared Matthew Stafford.

646
00:33:06,066 --> 00:33:09,266
Speaker 3: Come on, how interesting would that be on wildcard weekend?

647
00:33:09,946 --> 00:33:11,986
Speaker 3: And plus you think about some of these brands. Now,

648
00:33:12,106 --> 00:33:14,266
Speaker 3: you know, with only one buy as you mentioned, you

649
00:33:14,266 --> 00:33:16,386
Speaker 3: know you're probably looking at a wild card weekend that's

650
00:33:16,426 --> 00:33:20,626
Speaker 3: going to include the Cowboys the Eagles, the Chiefs. I mean,

651
00:33:20,866 --> 00:33:25,546
Speaker 3: these are gonna be really good hopefully, and a lot

652
00:33:25,586 --> 00:33:27,506
Speaker 3: of team, a lot of fan interest. So as you

653
00:33:27,546 --> 00:33:30,186
Speaker 3: dole those out across the weekend, like we talked about,

654
00:33:30,186 --> 00:33:33,506
Speaker 3: we'll learn a little bit from NBC this weekend, coming

655
00:33:33,586 --> 00:33:35,866
Speaker 3: up with Big NBC in the afternoon leading into Peacock.

656
00:33:35,946 --> 00:33:37,586
Speaker 3: We'll do that again Wildcard Saturday.

657
00:33:37,586 --> 00:33:39,786
Speaker 1: Try to sequence so no matter what, there's no games

658
00:33:39,826 --> 00:33:43,466
Speaker 1: on CBS, NBC or Fox wild Card Saturday.

659
00:33:43,986 --> 00:33:46,826
Speaker 3: Not on Saturday, it's Big NBC and Peacock, Okay. Then

660
00:33:46,866 --> 00:33:50,266
Speaker 3: on Sunday is gonna be CBS, Fox, and NBC in

661
00:33:50,346 --> 00:33:53,666
Speaker 3: some order usual Sunday if you will, CBS, Fox, and NBC,

662
00:33:53,786 --> 00:33:56,626
Speaker 3: and then of course the ESPN, ABC has the Monday

663
00:33:56,626 --> 00:33:59,226
Speaker 3: wild Card. And then as you project ahead to Divisional,

664
00:33:59,906 --> 00:34:03,106
Speaker 3: everybody's got one. CBS has one, Fox has one, NBC

665
00:34:03,266 --> 00:34:05,426
Speaker 3: has won, and for the first time, ESPN and ABC

666
00:34:05,746 --> 00:34:07,466
Speaker 3: are going to join the divisional weekends.

667
00:34:07,506 --> 00:34:10,266
Speaker 1: And it'll be two games on Saturday, two games.

668
00:34:09,906 --> 00:34:14,186
Speaker 3: To Saturday, two Sunday on Saturday, three and six thirty

669
00:34:14,186 --> 00:34:17,306
Speaker 3: on Sunday, and then come back Championship Sunday.

670
00:34:17,426 --> 00:34:21,066
Speaker 1: We already know Championships Sunday, CBS has the early game.

671
00:34:21,586 --> 00:34:25,026
Speaker 1: The AFC, Fox says, the NFC they alternate every year, So.

672
00:34:25,106 --> 00:34:28,866
Speaker 3: You guys alternate every year, yep, and then Pro Bowl

673
00:34:28,866 --> 00:34:30,666
Speaker 3: games and then Super Bowl in Vegas.

674
00:34:30,866 --> 00:34:32,586
Speaker 1: Dude, this is good.

675
00:34:32,666 --> 00:34:35,586
Speaker 3: The blur man. It went fast this season flew by.

676
00:34:35,586 --> 00:34:38,586
Speaker 1: It did. But like you know, here we are before

677
00:34:38,586 --> 00:34:41,226
Speaker 1: the season, You're like, all right, we're gonna just put

678
00:34:41,226 --> 00:34:43,466
Speaker 1: this out out there. We'll help. I gotta say, Detroit,

679
00:34:43,506 --> 00:34:45,186
Speaker 1: Kansas City, a lot of people rolled their eyes, like,

680
00:34:45,866 --> 00:34:49,666
Speaker 1: awesome game, right, Uh, it was good, and the Detroit

681
00:34:49,706 --> 00:34:52,666
Speaker 1: Lions kind of made a statement early on Thanksgiving Day.

682
00:34:52,706 --> 00:34:56,306
Speaker 1: Games were great, like they all they all were relevant

683
00:34:56,306 --> 00:34:58,346
Speaker 1: teams and delivered. And then we had the big upset

684
00:34:58,346 --> 00:35:02,066
Speaker 1: in the early window and then this we're in for

685
00:35:02,106 --> 00:35:03,786
Speaker 1: a stretch run right now, where I thought weren't for

686
00:35:03,826 --> 00:35:05,626
Speaker 1: a great stretch right It's unbelievable.

687
00:35:05,706 --> 00:35:08,706
Speaker 3: This is gonna be on. All the games are gonna matter.

688
00:35:08,746 --> 00:35:11,306
Speaker 3: Look to your point earlier about having everybody bunched up

689
00:35:11,346 --> 00:35:14,346
Speaker 3: the way they are. You know, there's a couple of really, really,

690
00:35:14,426 --> 00:35:16,706
Speaker 3: really good teams, and there's obviously a couple of teams

691
00:35:16,706 --> 00:35:19,266
Speaker 3: that have looking ahead to next year everybody else is

692
00:35:19,346 --> 00:35:21,386
Speaker 3: right there in the middle, right twenty twenty two teams

693
00:35:21,386 --> 00:35:24,466
Speaker 3: throw a blanket over them. Every weekends like a playoff game.

694
00:35:24,626 --> 00:35:26,146
Speaker 3: And like you said, you could be the five seed

695
00:35:26,186 --> 00:35:28,946
Speaker 3: one day and the eleven the next. Look at Philly

696
00:35:28,946 --> 00:35:31,266
Speaker 3: and Dallas flipping around between the two and the five.

697
00:35:31,346 --> 00:35:35,106
Speaker 3: I mean, every game really matters, really impactful, and having

698
00:35:35,146 --> 00:35:37,666
Speaker 3: more of them in windows where fans can watch them

699
00:35:38,146 --> 00:35:39,946
Speaker 3: think is a good thing. Right. If they're all massed

700
00:35:39,986 --> 00:35:42,146
Speaker 3: up on a Sunday at one o'clock, it's just hard

701
00:35:42,146 --> 00:35:43,746
Speaker 3: to follow them all. It's hard to give them all

702
00:35:43,786 --> 00:35:46,626
Speaker 3: the exposure they deserve. So kind of picking out the

703
00:35:46,626 --> 00:35:49,506
Speaker 3: ones that we thought in may might be relevant, putting

704
00:35:49,506 --> 00:35:51,866
Speaker 3: them in national windows. You know, it didn't bat one hundred,

705
00:35:51,906 --> 00:35:53,786
Speaker 3: but a lot of good ones still to come.

706
00:35:53,946 --> 00:35:56,106
Speaker 1: And this might be more of a Hans or Brian

707
00:35:56,186 --> 00:35:58,546
Speaker 1: Rolapp question, but this was the first year of the

708
00:35:58,586 --> 00:36:03,026
Speaker 1: Sunday Ticket on YouTube. There's been this universal praise for it.

709
00:36:03,066 --> 00:36:05,306
Speaker 1: I fly on Jet Blue back from LA to New York.

710
00:36:05,306 --> 00:36:07,066
Speaker 1: If you want to get into it, and they have

711
00:36:08,266 --> 00:36:10,266
Speaker 1: Sunday Ticket and they have red Zone, I don't miss

712
00:36:10,306 --> 00:36:12,626
Speaker 1: an action at all. How has that partnership been in

713
00:36:12,706 --> 00:36:14,666
Speaker 1: year one because from the viewer side and the fan

714
00:36:14,746 --> 00:36:17,586
Speaker 1: engagement side, I think it's been pretty flawless. Yeah.

715
00:36:17,586 --> 00:36:18,866
Speaker 3: Look, which at the end of the day is what

716
00:36:18,946 --> 00:36:21,626
Speaker 3: matters most, Right, It's all about the fans who want

717
00:36:21,626 --> 00:36:24,186
Speaker 3: to pay for this product being able to experience it

718
00:36:24,226 --> 00:36:27,706
Speaker 3: the way they want. I've heard, you know, every day

719
00:36:27,786 --> 00:36:30,186
Speaker 3: we talk about the tiling where they let you kind

720
00:36:30,186 --> 00:36:32,146
Speaker 3: of watch whatever it is for or eight games at

721
00:36:32,186 --> 00:36:34,266
Speaker 3: a time. I know some folks are still wanting to

722
00:36:34,306 --> 00:36:37,626
Speaker 3: set their own tiles, but that's probably coming someday. But yeah,

723
00:36:37,706 --> 00:36:40,186
Speaker 3: to the best of my knowledge, you know, they're learning

724
00:36:40,186 --> 00:36:42,986
Speaker 3: as they go. It's been fifteen weeks down and still

725
00:36:43,026 --> 00:36:44,826
Speaker 3: a couple more big ones to go. But for the

726
00:36:44,866 --> 00:36:47,146
Speaker 3: most part, it sounds like technologically for anybody who was

727
00:36:47,186 --> 00:36:49,906
Speaker 3: concerned about, you know, them being able to handle the

728
00:36:49,906 --> 00:36:53,226
Speaker 3: traffic and handle the product, I haven't really heard a

729
00:36:53,226 --> 00:36:55,546
Speaker 3: lot of you know, buffering issues or unable to find

730
00:36:55,546 --> 00:36:57,746
Speaker 3: my game or any of that kind of stuff. And

731
00:36:57,946 --> 00:37:01,226
Speaker 3: you know, like we started this conversation, you know, the streamers,

732
00:37:01,426 --> 00:37:05,226
Speaker 3: the digital partners, they're here to stay there. They're nothing new,

733
00:37:05,346 --> 00:37:08,906
Speaker 3: They're not going away, and they're going to become you know,

734
00:37:09,026 --> 00:37:12,386
Speaker 3: viable homes for big NFL games. Are we going to

735
00:37:12,466 --> 00:37:15,186
Speaker 3: put a you know, an Eagles Chiefs. Are we gonna

736
00:37:15,226 --> 00:37:17,706
Speaker 3: put a really big one like that on a streaming

737
00:37:17,746 --> 00:37:20,586
Speaker 3: platform and just kind of test where the ceiling is?

738
00:37:21,386 --> 00:37:21,666
Speaker 1: Yeah?

739
00:37:21,706 --> 00:37:23,586
Speaker 3: Probably at some point. I mean, we talked a little

740
00:37:23,586 --> 00:37:25,386
Speaker 3: bit about NFL network, right, you talked about all those

741
00:37:25,466 --> 00:37:28,226
Speaker 3: nine thirty am games. You know, that Miami Kansas City

742
00:37:28,266 --> 00:37:32,146
Speaker 3: game the best games of the year and really kind

743
00:37:32,146 --> 00:37:35,746
Speaker 3: of showed you that there is broadcast level viewership out

744
00:37:35,786 --> 00:37:38,506
Speaker 3: there for streaming partners, and that one's nine thirty in

745
00:37:38,506 --> 00:37:40,226
Speaker 3: the morning and we still got to ten eleven million

746
00:37:40,546 --> 00:37:44,786
Speaker 3: get hut factor in the local Yeah, by far. I

747
00:37:44,826 --> 00:37:48,306
Speaker 3: think the most watched NFL nine thirty AM game not

748
00:37:48,346 --> 00:37:50,226
Speaker 3: the most watched NFL network game, because you guys have

749
00:37:50,346 --> 00:37:52,466
Speaker 3: you know, you guys have wandered into Christmas Day here

750
00:37:52,466 --> 00:37:54,826
Speaker 3: and there and every now and then, you know, you

751
00:37:54,826 --> 00:37:57,346
Speaker 3: stumble into something big and fun and sexy on a

752
00:37:57,346 --> 00:38:01,346
Speaker 3: big window like that. So there's been bigger NFL network games,

753
00:38:01,346 --> 00:38:03,826
Speaker 3: but there haven't been bigger nine thirty a m. Eastern

754
00:38:03,866 --> 00:38:06,146
Speaker 3: time games. So that kind of shows you, you know,

755
00:38:06,186 --> 00:38:07,946
Speaker 3: for years it was, oh, let's make sure we don't

756
00:38:07,986 --> 00:38:10,826
Speaker 3: deploy our best assets in that window because maybe you're

757
00:38:10,866 --> 00:38:13,866
Speaker 3: not getting maximum viewership. I'm not sure that's true anymore. Again,

758
00:38:13,906 --> 00:38:19,906
Speaker 3: you're approaching broadcast level viewership for streaming services for the NFL.

759
00:38:20,386 --> 00:38:22,946
Speaker 3: That's something none of us probably could have seen coming

760
00:38:23,026 --> 00:38:25,226
Speaker 3: five years ago. And who knows what the world's going

761
00:38:25,266 --> 00:38:26,346
Speaker 3: to look like five years from now.

762
00:38:26,426 --> 00:38:28,306
Speaker 1: Right, there's a lot of hand ringing and a lot

763
00:38:28,346 --> 00:38:31,466
Speaker 1: of debate, and it made for good offseason. You know,

764
00:38:31,866 --> 00:38:35,466
Speaker 1: angry calls on radio about Amazon being able to flex

765
00:38:35,866 --> 00:38:38,226
Speaker 1: their Thursday night games. You guys did not do that

766
00:38:38,346 --> 00:38:40,306
Speaker 1: this year. He didn't exercise it that year. We thought

767
00:38:40,306 --> 00:38:42,866
Speaker 1: there was going to be some difficulties with a twenty

768
00:38:42,866 --> 00:38:45,546
Speaker 1: eight day window to actually decide how to do it.

769
00:38:46,786 --> 00:38:49,426
Speaker 1: Brown's Jets is coming up. Was there any discussion? Now

770
00:38:49,466 --> 00:38:51,946
Speaker 1: you look at this, I know that Jets aren't aren't there,

771
00:38:51,946 --> 00:38:53,786
Speaker 1: But maybe Rogers and the Browns are a story.

772
00:38:54,146 --> 00:38:57,066
Speaker 3: Talk to your boy man, have Aaron play half? Why not, right?

773
00:38:57,346 --> 00:39:00,946
Speaker 3: Show us? He show us, dude, what everybody's whistled for,

774
00:39:00,986 --> 00:39:04,906
Speaker 3: what everybody whistled for. Next year him may look even

775
00:39:04,906 --> 00:39:07,586
Speaker 3: if Rogers doesn't play, Even if if you know Zach

776
00:39:07,666 --> 00:39:11,666
Speaker 3: doesn't play. You know, when we talk about primetime windows,

777
00:39:12,306 --> 00:39:14,986
Speaker 3: you know, we always said if this game is truly,

778
00:39:15,186 --> 00:39:17,586
Speaker 3: you know, no longer relevant from a playoffs standpoint, that's

779
00:39:17,626 --> 00:39:20,266
Speaker 3: really where you start thinking about flexible scheduling. If one,

780
00:39:20,346 --> 00:39:23,266
Speaker 3: hopefully both teams are still playing for something, you know,

781
00:39:23,386 --> 00:39:25,666
Speaker 3: that game still feels like it's worthy of a national window.

782
00:39:25,746 --> 00:39:28,786
Speaker 3: And for those who haven't watched Joe Flacco quarterback to

783
00:39:28,826 --> 00:39:31,426
Speaker 3: Cleveland Browns this last month, the guy looks like he

784
00:39:31,466 --> 00:39:33,666
Speaker 3: looked when he was taking the Ravens to Super Bowls.

785
00:39:33,706 --> 00:39:36,866
Speaker 3: He looks the same, you know, big, tall, strong in

786
00:39:36,866 --> 00:39:40,186
Speaker 3: the pocket, throwing dimes. And Cleveland's been good all year.

787
00:39:40,226 --> 00:39:41,826
Speaker 3: They really have think of what they've been through with

788
00:39:41,866 --> 00:39:42,746
Speaker 3: all their injuries.

789
00:39:43,266 --> 00:39:45,146
Speaker 1: Forty nine ers in the rain, like they've done it.

790
00:39:45,186 --> 00:39:48,746
Speaker 3: They are with aj Walker, Yeah, they are legit. Miles

791
00:39:48,746 --> 00:39:50,946
Speaker 3: Garrett might be, you know, best player in the league.

792
00:39:50,946 --> 00:39:52,946
Speaker 3: I don't know, but we'll say anyway, to your point,

793
00:39:53,466 --> 00:39:56,146
Speaker 3: that game is still gonna matter on Thursday. And here

794
00:39:56,186 --> 00:39:59,066
Speaker 3: we were just talking a minute ago about Hey, every weekend,

795
00:39:59,226 --> 00:40:01,826
Speaker 3: the league turns upside down. So to make a flexible

796
00:40:01,866 --> 00:40:05,586
Speaker 3: scheduling decision four weeks out is tough it's always going

797
00:40:05,626 --> 00:40:08,026
Speaker 3: to be a challenge, and I I think Roger Commissioner

798
00:40:08,066 --> 00:40:10,826
Speaker 3: Goodell excuse me, was pretty clear with ownership when we

799
00:40:10,866 --> 00:40:14,506
Speaker 3: got the vote. This is a you know, only in

800
00:40:14,586 --> 00:40:17,626
Speaker 3: case of emergency. We flexed Sunday nights once or twice

801
00:40:17,666 --> 00:40:20,346
Speaker 3: a year. We've now flexed a Monday night Thursday nights.

802
00:40:20,386 --> 00:40:23,986
Speaker 3: I think the bars is significantly higher in part because of,

803
00:40:24,066 --> 00:40:26,106
Speaker 3: you know, the days that you have to adjust for everybody.

804
00:40:26,146 --> 00:40:27,946
Speaker 3: It's not just one day or a couple hours on

805
00:40:27,986 --> 00:40:30,866
Speaker 3: a Sunday, but also it's guessing four weeks from now,

806
00:40:31,186 --> 00:40:34,386
Speaker 3: which of these games are gonna be relevant. There's as

807
00:40:34,386 --> 00:40:37,346
Speaker 3: good a chances as any that you know, Jet's Cleveland

808
00:40:37,386 --> 00:40:39,986
Speaker 3: is as good as we're gonna get. So that didn't

809
00:40:40,066 --> 00:40:42,706
Speaker 3: rise to the level of needing the flex. Cleveland's been

810
00:40:42,706 --> 00:40:45,266
Speaker 3: playing really well. They deserve the national window. And like

811
00:40:45,266 --> 00:40:47,546
Speaker 3: you said, this Ram Saints game, maybe earlier in the

812
00:40:47,546 --> 00:40:49,386
Speaker 3: season was one that people were looking at like, hey,

813
00:40:49,386 --> 00:40:52,026
Speaker 3: that might be trouble, and now it's pretty damn important

814
00:40:52,026 --> 00:40:54,746
Speaker 3: in the NFC Wild Chart chase. Not quite an elimination game,

815
00:40:54,746 --> 00:40:57,186
Speaker 3: but the winner of that game is in a great spot.

816
00:40:57,266 --> 00:40:58,666
Speaker 1: That one was always going to be hard. And this

817
00:40:58,746 --> 00:41:01,106
Speaker 1: is really in the weeds because you already had committed

818
00:41:01,666 --> 00:41:04,186
Speaker 1: LA was playing at home Saturday night with the Chargers,

819
00:41:04,186 --> 00:41:07,386
Speaker 1: so if you were to flex that Rams game to Sunday,

820
00:41:07,426 --> 00:41:09,706
Speaker 1: it would be literally hours after. But that's just me

821
00:41:09,826 --> 00:41:12,346
Speaker 1: being one of the point zero zero one percent who

822
00:41:12,346 --> 00:41:16,026
Speaker 1: looks at schedules.

823
00:41:14,946 --> 00:41:17,466
Speaker 3: Also the point zero zero one percent who are worried

824
00:41:17,466 --> 00:41:21,266
Speaker 3: about things like that. But the Chargers and Rams play

825
00:41:21,306 --> 00:41:24,466
Speaker 3: on consecutive days that Jets and Giants play on consecutive days.

826
00:41:25,546 --> 00:41:28,786
Speaker 3: We knew full well that you know, a flex that week.

827
00:41:29,186 --> 00:41:31,626
Speaker 3: Having the Chargers not at home on Sunday at least

828
00:41:31,626 --> 00:41:34,266
Speaker 3: allowed for the possibility of the Rams flex to Sunday

829
00:41:34,546 --> 00:41:37,306
Speaker 3: if we wanted to. But again, four weeks ago when

830
00:41:37,306 --> 00:41:39,586
Speaker 3: we had to make the decision, we were hopeful that

831
00:41:39,626 --> 00:41:42,306
Speaker 3: Saints Rams was still gonna be pretty impactful, probably more

832
00:41:42,306 --> 00:41:44,146
Speaker 3: than we even could have thought. I mean, the Rams

833
00:41:44,146 --> 00:41:45,786
Speaker 3: have been playing great, winning a lot of games. They

834
00:41:45,786 --> 00:41:49,386
Speaker 3: gave Baltimore all he can handle in overtime. They're playing

835
00:41:49,386 --> 00:41:51,226
Speaker 3: as well as anybody right now, did.

836
00:41:51,066 --> 00:41:53,866
Speaker 1: You guys flex anything beyond last night's Monday night game?

837
00:41:53,866 --> 00:41:55,386
Speaker 1: Has ever been any other flexes this season?

838
00:41:55,826 --> 00:41:58,906
Speaker 3: We've done some stuff on Sunday afternoons that's not technically.

839
00:41:58,906 --> 00:42:00,466
Speaker 1: The Sunday trimetime or Monday.

840
00:42:00,346 --> 00:42:02,866
Speaker 3: We haven't flexed a Sunday night game yet. We did

841
00:42:02,866 --> 00:42:05,426
Speaker 3: one Monday night, haven't flexed a Thursday. It would be

842
00:42:05,466 --> 00:42:08,626
Speaker 3: ironic in a season with all the uncertainty, all the

843
00:42:08,706 --> 00:42:12,466
Speaker 3: quarterback injuries, all the upheaval, to only have one primetime

844
00:42:12,466 --> 00:42:15,546
Speaker 3: flex this year. But again, I think that's indicative of

845
00:42:15,626 --> 00:42:17,506
Speaker 3: you know where the bar is. We're not flexing to

846
00:42:17,546 --> 00:42:19,826
Speaker 3: try to get an extra twenty five thousand or fifty

847
00:42:19,866 --> 00:42:22,146
Speaker 3: thousand viewers. We're not flexing to get out of a

848
00:42:22,146 --> 00:42:25,346
Speaker 3: game with playoff implications into a game with better or

849
00:42:25,346 --> 00:42:28,626
Speaker 3: more or bigger playoff implications. It's about, here's a game

850
00:42:28,666 --> 00:42:30,586
Speaker 3: in the primetime window that was put here in May,

851
00:42:30,626 --> 00:42:32,546
Speaker 3: and by the time we're going to get there, both

852
00:42:32,586 --> 00:42:35,746
Speaker 3: teams are eliminated from playoff contention. That's the one that

853
00:42:35,786 --> 00:42:38,546
Speaker 3: we're not doing anybody any favors by leaving it in prime.

854
00:42:38,586 --> 00:42:40,346
Speaker 3: It's not good for the home fans, it's not good

855
00:42:40,346 --> 00:42:42,746
Speaker 3: for those two teams, certainly not good for the television

856
00:42:42,826 --> 00:42:45,986
Speaker 3: viewers are broadcast partners. So I haven't really had that

857
00:42:46,066 --> 00:42:50,306
Speaker 3: one yet. Where the primetime game is quote unquote irrelevant

858
00:42:50,466 --> 00:42:51,906
Speaker 3: and I'm not even sure there is such a thing

859
00:42:51,906 --> 00:42:54,906
Speaker 3: in this league. Every game matters while everybody's playing for something,

860
00:42:56,026 --> 00:42:58,066
Speaker 3: and it's going to be a fun stretch run down here.

861
00:42:58,146 --> 00:43:00,706
Speaker 1: Two part question. Now we're rapping soon, but two part question.

862
00:43:01,506 --> 00:43:03,986
Speaker 1: Last night, as Drew Locke with less than two minutes

863
00:43:04,066 --> 00:43:06,986
Speaker 1: left is leading the Seahawks on a ninety two yard

864
00:43:07,466 --> 00:43:10,346
Speaker 1: incredible game winning drive to knock off the Eagles, Well,

865
00:43:10,546 --> 00:43:12,706
Speaker 1: a day earlier Chiefs Patriots is kind of a dud

866
00:43:12,746 --> 00:43:16,226
Speaker 1: of a game. Do you smoke a cigar kick back

867
00:43:16,266 --> 00:43:19,306
Speaker 1: and say, correct, flex we did it, like we nailed it?

868
00:43:19,386 --> 00:43:21,026
Speaker 1: Is that the thing like do you look for a

869
00:43:21,026 --> 00:43:22,826
Speaker 1: pat in the back because you're not going to get one.

870
00:43:22,986 --> 00:43:24,346
Speaker 1: But that was the right move and a lot of

871
00:43:24,346 --> 00:43:26,186
Speaker 1: people were like, how could you move my homes out

872
00:43:26,186 --> 00:43:28,906
Speaker 1: of primetime? Well, the better game was actually Monday night.

873
00:43:29,466 --> 00:43:31,746
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're not in the business of patting ourselves on

874
00:43:31,786 --> 00:43:33,426
Speaker 3: the back. We're in the business of looking ahead and

875
00:43:33,466 --> 00:43:35,826
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what we could do right, what

876
00:43:35,866 --> 00:43:39,106
Speaker 3: we could do better. Look, the game was competitive. That

877
00:43:39,186 --> 00:43:41,106
Speaker 3: was great coming down to the wire or any fourth

878
00:43:41,186 --> 00:43:43,306
Speaker 3: quarter game within one scorer is all any of us

879
00:43:43,346 --> 00:43:46,066
Speaker 3: can ask for as viewers, and that was a pretty

880
00:43:46,066 --> 00:43:49,586
Speaker 3: exciting ending. I'm not sure the answer to was the

881
00:43:49,626 --> 00:43:54,746
Speaker 3: Monday night flex successful will be available until we really

882
00:43:54,786 --> 00:43:59,346
Speaker 3: do a little more accounting with the Chiefs, the Patriots,

883
00:43:59,506 --> 00:44:03,026
Speaker 3: the Eagles, the Seahawks. What was it like to change

884
00:44:03,026 --> 00:44:06,386
Speaker 3: like you did? How was fan reaction? Was the building

885
00:44:06,666 --> 00:44:08,346
Speaker 3: still full? Where there are a lot of tickets on

886
00:44:08,346 --> 00:44:13,426
Speaker 3: the secondary market? You know, don't want to be reckless

887
00:44:13,466 --> 00:44:16,026
Speaker 3: and haphazard with these flexes. But you know, on the

888
00:44:16,026 --> 00:44:17,906
Speaker 3: one hand, like you said, I think we got the

889
00:44:17,946 --> 00:44:22,146
Speaker 3: better game into the bigger window season, but there's a

890
00:44:22,186 --> 00:44:24,226
Speaker 3: lot more that comes into it. I'm not sure we're done,

891
00:44:24,626 --> 00:44:27,146
Speaker 3: you know, doing all the calculously until we talked to

892
00:44:27,186 --> 00:44:32,066
Speaker 3: the Patriots, talked to the Seahawks. Look, last night looked full,

893
00:44:32,466 --> 00:44:35,546
Speaker 3: sounded loud even in bad weather. That was part of

894
00:44:35,586 --> 00:44:37,786
Speaker 3: what we were thinking, though, you know, just the same

895
00:44:38,146 --> 00:44:40,306
Speaker 3: you play a Seahawks game on Tuesday at noon and

896
00:44:40,346 --> 00:44:42,186
Speaker 3: I assume the place is going to be full and loud.

897
00:44:42,266 --> 00:44:45,346
Speaker 3: So that all goes into what we're thinking. And again,

898
00:44:45,706 --> 00:44:48,066
Speaker 3: you know, it's not just about the Monday night flex,

899
00:44:48,106 --> 00:44:51,026
Speaker 3: but as you go back to the Sunday. That Chief's

900
00:44:51,106 --> 00:44:54,426
Speaker 3: Patriots game ended up going into Sunday at one o'clock,

901
00:44:54,746 --> 00:44:57,306
Speaker 3: which was a big game for Fox. They don't get

902
00:44:57,306 --> 00:44:59,426
Speaker 3: a lot of Chiefs games obviously from the AFC, so

903
00:44:59,706 --> 00:45:01,706
Speaker 3: that game still went to seventy percent of the country.

904
00:45:01,946 --> 00:45:04,146
Speaker 3: It was a lead into Dallas Buffalo, which wasn't as

905
00:45:04,186 --> 00:45:07,026
Speaker 3: competitive as we'd hope, but still probably got like family

906
00:45:07,066 --> 00:45:09,786
Speaker 3: people watching. And then you still got the green Bay

907
00:45:09,826 --> 00:45:12,146
Speaker 3: Tampa game sliding over to CBS. Some more fans could

908
00:45:12,146 --> 00:45:14,466
Speaker 3: watch that one. And how about Baker Mayfield going in

909
00:45:14,506 --> 00:45:17,466
Speaker 3: the Lambo and putting up a one fifty eight. They're

910
00:45:17,466 --> 00:45:19,346
Speaker 3: gonna be right there down the stretch as well. So

911
00:45:20,066 --> 00:45:22,786
Speaker 3: that one week worked out really well for everybody, but

912
00:45:22,906 --> 00:45:24,906
Speaker 3: not done until we really talked to the Patriots and

913
00:45:24,946 --> 00:45:26,306
Speaker 3: the Seahawks and find out how the fans are.

914
00:45:26,346 --> 00:45:28,986
Speaker 1: Isn't it funny you just wrote usn't aside like Tampa

915
00:45:29,026 --> 00:45:30,586
Speaker 1: green Bay, no one circled that game might have been

916
00:45:30,626 --> 00:45:32,386
Speaker 1: the game of the week. Now you have Tampa Jacksonville

917
00:45:32,426 --> 00:45:34,986
Speaker 1: this weekend, and it's like huge implications. If you were

918
00:45:35,026 --> 00:45:36,906
Speaker 1: going back and drawing up the schedule and may you

919
00:45:36,986 --> 00:45:39,106
Speaker 1: might you know, be kind and say it might have

920
00:45:39,146 --> 00:45:43,906
Speaker 1: a major game Tampa Jacksonville Week sixteen, and it's like,

921
00:45:43,946 --> 00:45:45,986
Speaker 1: that's why you can't write this. It's not scripted. You

922
00:45:45,986 --> 00:45:46,986
Speaker 1: can't write this stuff.

923
00:45:47,466 --> 00:45:50,106
Speaker 3: Nobody knows anything in this league. But like we said,

924
00:45:50,226 --> 00:45:51,986
Speaker 3: I think this is the new normal, right. All the

925
00:45:51,986 --> 00:45:55,346
Speaker 3: games are close, which is why, unfortunately sometimes the officiating

926
00:45:55,346 --> 00:45:57,946
Speaker 3: gets a little more scrutiny because one call feels like

927
00:45:58,026 --> 00:46:01,546
Speaker 3: can really impact the game. Every game's close, every team's good,

928
00:46:02,106 --> 00:46:04,906
Speaker 3: and nobody knows anything. It's the beauty of the sport.

929
00:46:05,026 --> 00:46:07,266
Speaker 3: So anytime you turn on the television, your bound to

930
00:46:07,306 --> 00:46:09,906
Speaker 3: see something you haven't seen before, haven't seen Drew Locke

931
00:46:09,986 --> 00:46:11,346
Speaker 3: lead a game winning drive.

932
00:46:11,186 --> 00:46:12,946
Speaker 1: In what three years, thousand days?

933
00:46:12,986 --> 00:46:14,346
Speaker 3: I don't know if you saw it, but his postgame

934
00:46:14,346 --> 00:46:15,946
Speaker 3: interview with Lisa Assaults.

935
00:46:15,506 --> 00:46:17,826
Speaker 1: Was amazing and Lisa did a great job on it.

936
00:46:18,026 --> 00:46:20,746
Speaker 3: She did, she did, She was one quick question.

937
00:46:20,706 --> 00:46:25,106
Speaker 1: She waited, listened, which is good. The other part to

938
00:46:25,146 --> 00:46:27,386
Speaker 1: that question is we had a dog of a Bears

939
00:46:27,466 --> 00:46:30,706
Speaker 1: Chargers game on Sunday Night earlier this season that was

940
00:46:30,786 --> 00:46:33,026
Speaker 1: you know, it felt like a stadium was mostly Bears fans.

941
00:46:33,026 --> 00:46:36,626
Speaker 1: Tyson pagent wins or did he win. I don't even

942
00:46:36,626 --> 00:46:38,706
Speaker 1: know who won. It was in hindsight now he did not.

943
00:46:38,866 --> 00:46:41,066
Speaker 1: He did not win. The Chargers won. Do you guys,

944
00:46:42,146 --> 00:46:43,746
Speaker 1: I know you're vulnerable, and you guys say we make

945
00:46:43,786 --> 00:46:45,586
Speaker 1: mistakes sometimes. Do you guys look at that and say, Okay,

946
00:46:45,826 --> 00:46:48,466
Speaker 1: that was when we should have or it's not like that.

947
00:46:48,506 --> 00:46:49,826
Speaker 1: It's just like, hey, move on, We're not going to

948
00:46:49,866 --> 00:46:52,026
Speaker 1: beat ourselves up week to week as far as flexing goes.

949
00:46:52,226 --> 00:46:53,986
Speaker 3: Yeah, Look, don't forget that was week eight.

950
00:46:53,986 --> 00:46:56,786
Speaker 1: Right, nobody a part getting interview here?

951
00:46:57,226 --> 00:46:59,266
Speaker 3: No, I understand. Look when I say it was week eight,

952
00:46:59,386 --> 00:47:01,026
Speaker 3: I don't mean like, hey, that was eight weeks ago.

953
00:47:01,026 --> 00:47:02,586
Speaker 3: While you bring it up, I mean like it was

954
00:47:02,666 --> 00:47:04,906
Speaker 3: week eight, Like do you really need to flex and

955
00:47:04,946 --> 00:47:07,866
Speaker 3: we eight? Is anybody dead and buried? You think about

956
00:47:07,866 --> 00:47:09,946
Speaker 3: the Lions last year with their start, You think about

957
00:47:09,946 --> 00:47:12,026
Speaker 3: the Broncos this year, right, I think the Broncos were

958
00:47:12,026 --> 00:47:14,546
Speaker 3: Sunday Night a week or two later after Bears Chargers.

959
00:47:15,826 --> 00:47:19,186
Speaker 3: You know again, flexes for when the game has truly

960
00:47:19,546 --> 00:47:23,226
Speaker 3: no longer as playoff implications. Look, Tyson bagent became a

961
00:47:23,226 --> 00:47:24,786
Speaker 3: story there for a minute, and it was kind of

962
00:47:24,826 --> 00:47:27,146
Speaker 3: fun and interesting. That's been one of the weird things

963
00:47:27,146 --> 00:47:29,866
Speaker 3: about this season, right, some of these backup quarterbacks, like

964
00:47:29,946 --> 00:47:32,266
Speaker 3: Tommy d here in New York, like, some of these

965
00:47:32,266 --> 00:47:35,306
Speaker 3: guys kind of either you know, us being introduced to

966
00:47:35,306 --> 00:47:36,826
Speaker 3: them for a first time, or us remembering, Oh I

967
00:47:36,866 --> 00:47:40,506
Speaker 3: knew that guy from college. It's been fun to see

968
00:47:40,546 --> 00:47:42,626
Speaker 3: these guys. Come on. Yeah, I don't know that any

969
00:47:42,666 --> 00:47:46,146
Speaker 3: primetime window is rooting for, you know, backup quarterbacks. And

970
00:47:46,466 --> 00:47:52,946
Speaker 3: again in May, Justin Fields and Justin Herbert, what do

971
00:47:53,026 --> 00:47:55,186
Speaker 3: any of us know? And then when you as soon

972
00:47:55,186 --> 00:47:56,706
Speaker 3: as you're right off the Bears, look at what they're

973
00:47:56,746 --> 00:47:58,546
Speaker 3: doing down the stretch here, playing hard and playing as

974
00:47:58,546 --> 00:48:01,026
Speaker 3: well the lion anybody in the NFC. They're gonna have

975
00:48:01,026 --> 00:48:02,946
Speaker 3: an impact on the wildcard race too. They're not even

976
00:48:02,986 --> 00:48:05,906
Speaker 3: out of it yet. So yeah, do we look back

977
00:48:05,946 --> 00:48:08,946
Speaker 3: on every decision we made as a scheduling team. Absolutely? Yes.

978
00:48:10,266 --> 00:48:12,386
Speaker 3: Is there time really to beat yourself up about it?

979
00:48:12,546 --> 00:48:12,586
Speaker 2: No?

980
00:48:13,986 --> 00:48:16,426
Speaker 3: But does a factor in your thinking going forward? Maybe

981
00:48:16,466 --> 00:48:18,826
Speaker 3: a little bit. You know, if NBC, you know, kind

982
00:48:18,866 --> 00:48:20,866
Speaker 3: of has their hand out and say, hey, don't forget

983
00:48:21,066 --> 00:48:23,466
Speaker 3: you know, we we have Bears Chargers, we'd sure like

984
00:48:23,546 --> 00:48:26,106
Speaker 3: that Cowboys game on wildcard weekend or whatever. Those are

985
00:48:26,146 --> 00:48:27,786
Speaker 3: the kind of conversations that we're gonna have over the

986
00:48:27,826 --> 00:48:28,586
Speaker 3: next couple of weeks.

987
00:48:28,626 --> 00:48:30,106
Speaker 1: So interesting, like that's one of them they put in

988
00:48:30,186 --> 00:48:32,026
Speaker 1: their back pocket and say, we ate it. We did that,

989
00:48:32,186 --> 00:48:35,386
Speaker 1: we we you know. And then hey, Cowboys play the

990
00:48:35,386 --> 00:48:37,626
Speaker 1: Lions in the Divisional. We'd love to have that one

991
00:48:37,666 --> 00:48:40,906
Speaker 1: as opposed to Tampa versus San Francisco. I get it.

992
00:48:40,986 --> 00:48:43,546
Speaker 1: I think that's interesting. How do you feed all those

993
00:48:43,586 --> 00:48:47,786
Speaker 1: different mouths because I feel like everyone's got like the Fox,

994
00:48:48,106 --> 00:48:50,506
Speaker 1: the Fox A crew. I'm biased to Fox there, my guys.

995
00:48:50,946 --> 00:48:53,586
Speaker 1: They have had so many blowouts this season, yep. And

996
00:48:53,626 --> 00:48:55,986
Speaker 1: it's just it's by chance. It's just what it is.

997
00:48:56,026 --> 00:48:58,346
Speaker 1: These games are good matchups, and then you get out

998
00:48:58,346 --> 00:49:00,506
Speaker 1: there and it's San Francisco Dallas and it's well, that

999
00:49:00,586 --> 00:49:01,986
Speaker 1: might have been on MBC, but you know what I mean,

1000
00:49:02,146 --> 00:49:06,786
Speaker 1: it's just one after another. Do you start getting stuff

1001
00:49:06,826 --> 00:49:09,786
Speaker 1: from the networks now saying, hey, playoffs, we want Cowboys,

1002
00:49:09,826 --> 00:49:11,986
Speaker 1: or hey we would love to have a little Chiefs

1003
00:49:12,026 --> 00:49:13,146
Speaker 1: action if there's a wildcard r.

1004
00:49:13,386 --> 00:49:15,386
Speaker 3: Yeah, love, Like we talked about, We're heading for a

1005
00:49:15,426 --> 00:49:17,986
Speaker 3: wild card weekend with some pretty pretty big brands. And

1006
00:49:18,026 --> 00:49:20,226
Speaker 3: some pretty big stars. So I think we're going to

1007
00:49:20,346 --> 00:49:22,786
Speaker 3: have would.

1008
00:49:21,866 --> 00:49:24,146
Speaker 1: You put AFC on Fox now that it's kind of

1009
00:49:24,146 --> 00:49:26,386
Speaker 1: wide open, and we did that a couple of years ago, right.

1010
00:49:26,946 --> 00:49:29,026
Speaker 3: We do in a year where they've got multiple wild

1011
00:49:29,106 --> 00:49:31,666
Speaker 3: card games. The way it works for CBS and Fox

1012
00:49:31,746 --> 00:49:33,546
Speaker 3: is if you only have one in a weekend, it's

1013
00:49:33,546 --> 00:49:35,146
Speaker 3: going to be in your conference. If you have two

1014
00:49:35,186 --> 00:49:37,586
Speaker 3: in a weekend, one in your conference, the other one

1015
00:49:37,626 --> 00:49:39,986
Speaker 3: could be the opposite. So for this particular season, with

1016
00:49:40,066 --> 00:49:42,426
Speaker 3: CBS and Fox each only having one on Sunday after,

1017
00:49:43,186 --> 00:49:46,346
Speaker 3: they're going to be conference affiliated. Same thing on divisional weekend.

1018
00:49:46,466 --> 00:49:49,306
Speaker 3: So we're not going to get the Chiefs game over

1019
00:49:49,346 --> 00:49:51,506
Speaker 3: to Fox, but they're going to end up with a

1020
00:49:51,666 --> 00:49:54,906
Speaker 3: really good game. Just look at the NFC wildcard picture.

1021
00:49:55,026 --> 00:49:57,386
Speaker 3: You look at the division winners. Now, you know, like

1022
00:49:57,426 --> 00:50:00,066
Speaker 3: you said, everybody one through twelve is a great story

1023
00:50:00,106 --> 00:50:02,306
Speaker 3: in the NFC. So we're going to end up with

1024
00:50:02,346 --> 00:50:05,906
Speaker 3: some you know, pretty juicy apples I think on wildcard weekend,

1025
00:50:05,906 --> 00:50:07,986
Speaker 3: and it it becomes easier to dole them out to

1026
00:50:08,026 --> 00:50:11,186
Speaker 3: partners when they're all great. If you have a situation

1027
00:50:11,266 --> 00:50:13,306
Speaker 3: where you're like, oh, that's the one that nobody wants

1028
00:50:13,426 --> 00:50:15,106
Speaker 3: or that's the one that everybody wants, and if they

1029
00:50:15,146 --> 00:50:17,986
Speaker 3: don't get it, they're disappointed. That one's a little tougher.

1030
00:50:18,026 --> 00:50:18,186
Speaker 1: You know.

1031
00:50:18,226 --> 00:50:21,666
Speaker 3: Moving Dallas Tampa on Monday Night last year was a

1032
00:50:21,706 --> 00:50:25,306
Speaker 3: pretty big testament to the power of Monday night football,

1033
00:50:25,346 --> 00:50:28,506
Speaker 3: to the strength of the simulcast ESPN and ABC together

1034
00:50:28,866 --> 00:50:30,906
Speaker 3: and it did what thirty something million. It did a

1035
00:50:30,946 --> 00:50:34,626
Speaker 3: monster number. Couldn't feel bad about it, But if you

1036
00:50:34,666 --> 00:50:36,706
Speaker 3: were the other partners, you were like, oh, well, I

1037
00:50:36,746 --> 00:50:39,346
Speaker 3: didn't get Dallas against Tom Brady. Whatever else you give

1038
00:50:39,386 --> 00:50:42,626
Speaker 3: me isn't going to be good enough. That's frustrating and disappointing.

1039
00:50:42,626 --> 00:50:44,786
Speaker 3: And we still had some great games on Wildcard weekend.

1040
00:50:46,106 --> 00:50:51,786
Speaker 3: So look, more juicy apples means more happy partners. But

1041
00:50:51,826 --> 00:50:54,506
Speaker 3: it's never about you know, just this weekend or just

1042
00:50:54,626 --> 00:50:56,986
Speaker 3: you O US one or just this season. Right, these

1043
00:50:56,986 --> 00:50:59,426
Speaker 3: are ten year broadcast deals. The goal here is for

1044
00:50:59,546 --> 00:51:04,626
Speaker 3: everybody to be strong and healthy, you know, seven, eight, nine,

1045
00:51:04,666 --> 00:51:06,706
Speaker 3: ten years from now, not just this season. And so

1046
00:51:07,266 --> 00:51:09,906
Speaker 3: it moves around. Sometimes you catch lightning in a bottle.

1047
00:51:10,026 --> 00:51:12,106
Speaker 3: This year seems like most of our partners are are

1048
00:51:12,226 --> 00:51:14,346
Speaker 3: up year over year, which is a great position. To

1049
00:51:14,346 --> 00:51:16,946
Speaker 3: be in for the schedule makers. Anybody who's down a

1050
00:51:16,986 --> 00:51:18,786
Speaker 3: little bit, Hopefully they can make it up down the

1051
00:51:18,786 --> 00:51:21,746
Speaker 3: stretch here and maybe they get you know, a little

1052
00:51:22,226 --> 00:51:24,026
Speaker 3: you know, less of a lumpic coal in their Christmas

1053
00:51:24,026 --> 00:51:25,226
Speaker 3: stocking when we get to playoffs.

1054
00:51:25,226 --> 00:51:27,346
Speaker 1: And I'll say, you know, that whole thing about putting

1055
00:51:27,346 --> 00:51:30,626
Speaker 1: the Cowboys on Monday Night, Bucket Akmen are really good

1056
00:51:30,826 --> 00:51:33,786
Speaker 1: and that production crew is really good. It's it's it's

1057
00:51:33,786 --> 00:51:36,826
Speaker 1: a great product. So it doesn't feel like it's, oh,

1058
00:51:36,866 --> 00:51:39,586
Speaker 1: this is cable TV. No, it's on ABC, like it's

1059
00:51:39,946 --> 00:51:42,986
Speaker 1: it's simulcasted now on It doesn't feel like it's less

1060
00:51:43,026 --> 00:51:47,106
Speaker 1: than by any means. And truthfully, you know what they

1061
00:51:47,106 --> 00:51:49,266
Speaker 1: did on that Monday night game with Eagles and Jeeves,

1062
00:51:49,266 --> 00:51:52,346
Speaker 1: sending their whole pregame crew to Arrowhead and like having

1063
00:51:52,386 --> 00:51:55,106
Speaker 1: it all felt like an event. Fox does that every week,

1064
00:51:55,186 --> 00:51:58,746
Speaker 1: CBS does that every week, NBC does it every week. ESPN.

1065
00:51:58,866 --> 00:52:00,586
Speaker 1: In the last couple of years with Bucket Aikman, it

1066
00:52:00,586 --> 00:52:02,986
Speaker 1: feels like they they're they're fine getting any big game

1067
00:52:03,066 --> 00:52:03,386
Speaker 1: as well.

1068
00:52:03,626 --> 00:52:06,186
Speaker 3: Look, they've made a commitment right to their talent, to

1069
00:52:06,226 --> 00:52:09,706
Speaker 3: their broadcast crews and to you know, when they roll

1070
00:52:09,706 --> 00:52:12,706
Speaker 3: out the circus. They roll out the circus, right. They

1071
00:52:12,706 --> 00:52:15,906
Speaker 3: bring radio, they bring internet, they bring a day of television.

1072
00:52:15,906 --> 00:52:17,586
Speaker 3: We talk about this all the time. When you've got

1073
00:52:17,586 --> 00:52:20,546
Speaker 3: like a big storyline game and you really want a

1074
00:52:20,586 --> 00:52:22,346
Speaker 3: lot of attention to it, you know, you put it

1075
00:52:22,426 --> 00:52:24,386
Speaker 3: on a Sunday afternoon at one o'clock, it's gonna get

1076
00:52:24,386 --> 00:52:26,706
Speaker 3: lost a little bit. You put it Sunday at four thirty.

1077
00:52:26,706 --> 00:52:29,306
Speaker 3: That's probably our most watched window. We're still getting twenty

1078
00:52:29,306 --> 00:52:31,866
Speaker 3: five twenty eight million people there, but there's other games

1079
00:52:31,906 --> 00:52:33,946
Speaker 3: going on and you can't really lead into it because

1080
00:52:33,946 --> 00:52:37,186
Speaker 3: you're watching six or eight one o'clock games Sunday night.

1081
00:52:37,226 --> 00:52:39,706
Speaker 3: Same thing. You got a whole day of football Sunday

1082
00:52:39,746 --> 00:52:42,626
Speaker 3: afternoon leading into Sunday night. But you clear out a

1083
00:52:42,666 --> 00:52:45,226
Speaker 3: Monday and you do an event like you said, like

1084
00:52:45,306 --> 00:52:48,106
Speaker 3: Eagles Chiefs, You've got all day to build to it

1085
00:52:48,186 --> 00:52:50,786
Speaker 3: and then have the game. Actually, you know, rise up

1086
00:52:50,826 --> 00:52:53,746
Speaker 3: to that level was just perfect confluence, great set of

1087
00:52:53,746 --> 00:52:57,386
Speaker 3: circumstances and really good result and really fun game.

1088
00:52:57,666 --> 00:52:59,346
Speaker 1: The last question, I'm gonna let you go because this

1089
00:52:59,386 --> 00:53:01,546
Speaker 1: is a holiday week and this is you know you

1090
00:53:01,546 --> 00:53:02,626
Speaker 1: and I can do that. We could do this day.

1091
00:53:02,626 --> 00:53:04,266
Speaker 3: Oh, we could go all day. Man, after I'm done

1092
00:53:04,266 --> 00:53:05,866
Speaker 3: talking to you, I'm gonna have the same conversation with

1093
00:53:05,866 --> 00:53:07,026
Speaker 3: the Commissioner'll see me.

1094
00:53:07,146 --> 00:53:07,546
Speaker 1: I love it.

1095
00:53:07,706 --> 00:53:09,306
Speaker 3: We got a lot of decisions still to make down

1096
00:53:09,306 --> 00:53:09,746
Speaker 3: the stretch.

1097
00:53:09,866 --> 00:53:13,626
Speaker 1: You know, I follow this stuff as much as the football.

1098
00:53:13,786 --> 00:53:16,346
Speaker 1: The silver bullet is what thirty million is like an

1099
00:53:16,346 --> 00:53:18,346
Speaker 1: amazing day? Like what's the number? You look and is

1100
00:53:18,346 --> 00:53:21,546
Speaker 1: that still the metric? The Nielsen ratings? The next work

1101
00:53:21,626 --> 00:53:23,586
Speaker 1: cause we put it out. I see the NFL will

1102
00:53:23,586 --> 00:53:26,026
Speaker 1: put it out and be like, you know, thirty five

1103
00:53:26,066 --> 00:53:28,346
Speaker 1: million watch the Thanksgiving nig games and like we puff

1104
00:53:28,386 --> 00:53:30,426
Speaker 1: our chest. We'll like hell yeah. But like it's a

1105
00:53:30,466 --> 00:53:33,146
Speaker 1: different time now, there's all different ways to watch the games.

1106
00:53:33,866 --> 00:53:37,706
Speaker 1: What is the hallmark of like a great, great broadcast

1107
00:53:37,746 --> 00:53:39,466
Speaker 1: and a great viewing audience these days?

1108
00:53:40,506 --> 00:53:42,466
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not sure there's a number. Right. There have

1109
00:53:42,506 --> 00:53:46,266
Speaker 3: been really fantastic NFL games that happen to find themselves

1110
00:53:46,306 --> 00:53:48,426
Speaker 3: at one o'clock in the afternoon and maybe only eight

1111
00:53:48,506 --> 00:53:50,506
Speaker 3: or ten or fifteen percent of the country got to

1112
00:53:50,506 --> 00:53:53,426
Speaker 3: see it. The beauty of this league, though, is how

1113
00:53:53,506 --> 00:53:56,106
Speaker 3: quickly our guys, whether it's NFL films with things like

1114
00:53:56,146 --> 00:53:59,506
Speaker 3: hard knocks or our social media guys are obviously NFL network.

1115
00:53:59,546 --> 00:54:02,346
Speaker 3: Like if you didn't get to see a game within

1116
00:54:02,506 --> 00:54:05,746
Speaker 3: minutes after the final gun, you can get a really

1117
00:54:05,826 --> 00:54:08,146
Speaker 3: good so of what happened over the course of those

1118
00:54:08,186 --> 00:54:11,866
Speaker 3: three hours. And you know, you ask what constitutes success.

1119
00:54:12,466 --> 00:54:14,186
Speaker 3: You know, I would tell you a game that was

1120
00:54:14,746 --> 00:54:16,946
Speaker 3: high scoring, a game that was close, a game that

1121
00:54:17,026 --> 00:54:20,346
Speaker 3: didn't have you know, any bad injuries or any officiating

1122
00:54:20,346 --> 00:54:23,826
Speaker 3: controversies played in like that nice tight three hour windows

1123
00:54:23,826 --> 00:54:27,106
Speaker 3: so that we can get into the next window. And

1124
00:54:27,146 --> 00:54:29,026
Speaker 3: you know, the commissioner always talks about, you know, the

1125
00:54:29,066 --> 00:54:31,626
Speaker 3: team losing at halftime coming back in the second half,

1126
00:54:31,706 --> 00:54:33,906
Speaker 3: or the team behind in the standings getting a win

1127
00:54:33,986 --> 00:54:37,666
Speaker 3: to tighten up the standings. You know, there's a lot

1128
00:54:37,666 --> 00:54:41,626
Speaker 3: of different descriptions of success, but you know, at the

1129
00:54:41,706 --> 00:54:44,666
Speaker 3: end of the day, it's it's are people talking about it?

1130
00:54:44,706 --> 00:54:47,386
Speaker 3: Do they care? Are they engaged? Are partners putting in

1131
00:54:47,386 --> 00:54:49,986
Speaker 3: the time and effort, Are we promoting properly to make

1132
00:54:49,986 --> 00:54:51,706
Speaker 3: sure our fans know where to find the games here

1133
00:54:51,746 --> 00:54:54,306
Speaker 3: when they are in non traditional windows or on non

1134
00:54:54,306 --> 00:54:58,506
Speaker 3: traditional broadcast partners successes making sure that everybody knows where

1135
00:54:58,546 --> 00:55:00,266
Speaker 3: the game is and then hopefully they tune in, and

1136
00:55:00,266 --> 00:55:02,546
Speaker 3: then hopefully once they get there, it's a really good

1137
00:55:02,586 --> 00:55:05,106
Speaker 3: product and a really close game. Whether it did eighteen

1138
00:55:05,146 --> 00:55:07,906
Speaker 3: million or twenty five million thirty five million people isn't

1139
00:55:07,906 --> 00:55:11,626
Speaker 3: as important as you know, are we maximizing the opportunity

1140
00:55:11,986 --> 00:55:13,986
Speaker 3: every time we kick off the game, and are we

1141
00:55:14,026 --> 00:55:16,946
Speaker 3: as a scheduling team, you know, doling out these juicy

1142
00:55:16,986 --> 00:55:18,866
Speaker 3: apples in a right way so that all the broadcast

1143
00:55:18,946 --> 00:55:21,586
Speaker 3: partners and all the fans feel like, hey, that seemed right,

1144
00:55:21,666 --> 00:55:25,306
Speaker 3: that seemed fair, and we're appreciated of the opportunity, and

1145
00:55:25,706 --> 00:55:27,506
Speaker 3: give us another big game and we'll do our best

1146
00:55:27,546 --> 00:55:28,146
Speaker 3: on that one too.

1147
00:55:28,346 --> 00:55:30,306
Speaker 1: I'm ending with a pitch. Can I give you a pitch?

1148
00:55:30,386 --> 00:55:32,026
Speaker 3: Hit me go? What do you got as our.

1149
00:55:32,066 --> 00:55:35,906
Speaker 1: VP of Broadcasting and Scheduling and programming. Okay, So you

1150
00:55:35,946 --> 00:55:38,586
Speaker 1: guys might not think in Park Avenue that we the

1151
00:55:38,666 --> 00:55:43,186
Speaker 1: viewer or we the football nerd cares about who gets

1152
00:55:43,226 --> 00:55:46,946
Speaker 1: what broadcast team in the playoff game or when that

1153
00:55:47,026 --> 00:55:49,786
Speaker 1: playoff game is. You might just for years now it's

1154
00:55:49,866 --> 00:55:53,026
Speaker 1: during the Sunday night second half, Collinsworth will roll out

1155
00:55:53,026 --> 00:55:55,306
Speaker 1: a graphic with Tarrico or back in the day it

1156
00:55:55,306 --> 00:55:56,666
Speaker 1: was Al Michael's be like, all right, well, we just

1157
00:55:56,666 --> 00:56:00,626
Speaker 1: got this playoff schedule and looks like this. I think

1158
00:56:00,666 --> 00:56:04,906
Speaker 1: this stuff has March Madness feelings to it of like that.

1159
00:56:04,906 --> 00:56:07,266
Speaker 3: That's can we get out one at a time?

1160
00:56:07,386 --> 00:56:10,306
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, Mike, hear me out. If we're

1161
00:56:10,346 --> 00:56:11,586
Speaker 1: gonna make the schedule release and.

1162
00:56:11,586 --> 00:56:13,066
Speaker 3: Now we're gonna do it, let's do it. Go ahead,

1163
00:56:13,106 --> 00:56:13,786
Speaker 3: hit me, what's your.

1164
00:56:13,706 --> 00:56:19,786
Speaker 1: Idea Sunday night after the Sunday night game that has

1165
00:56:19,866 --> 00:56:21,346
Speaker 1: just been you know, wrapping up there.

1166
00:56:21,586 --> 00:56:23,306
Speaker 3: Everybody stay up till one o'clock in the morning.

1167
00:56:23,426 --> 00:56:24,106
Speaker 1: Everybody's up.

1168
00:56:24,146 --> 00:56:26,226
Speaker 3: Okay, fine you West Coasters.

1169
00:56:26,066 --> 00:56:31,746
Speaker 1: Okay, everybody's up. Or you do it at halftime. You

1170
00:56:31,906 --> 00:56:36,386
Speaker 1: tossed to me, yes, because I am pitching it. Executive producer,

1171
00:56:36,466 --> 00:56:45,226
Speaker 1: slash host you Annie Bo's Howard Katz, Roger Goodell in

1172
00:56:45,266 --> 00:56:49,066
Speaker 1: a room okay, what's your scheduling room called? After the

1173
00:56:49,066 --> 00:56:50,306
Speaker 1: schedule maker? What's it called?

1174
00:56:50,786 --> 00:56:51,506
Speaker 3: Foul pinchback?

1175
00:56:51,986 --> 00:56:56,066
Speaker 1: Amazing in that room with cameras then in zoom windows

1176
00:56:56,106 --> 00:56:59,546
Speaker 1: like you have Michigan and Duke and Rhode Island. You've

1177
00:56:59,586 --> 00:57:03,346
Speaker 1: got Eric Shanks and Brad Zaeger. In one box, you've

1178
00:57:03,346 --> 00:57:06,746
Speaker 1: got mcmanuson Burston in the CBS execs and an there,

1179
00:57:07,266 --> 00:57:11,226
Speaker 1: you've got all the NBC, Mark Lazareth and Rick Cordella

1180
00:57:11,426 --> 00:57:14,866
Speaker 1: and and and Fred Godelli and you know Rob Hyland

1181
00:57:14,866 --> 00:57:16,906
Speaker 1: and those guys in another box. And then you got

1182
00:57:16,906 --> 00:57:20,186
Speaker 1: your Burke, Magnus, Norby Williams and Jimmy Pataro in another box.

1183
00:57:20,226 --> 00:57:25,466
Speaker 1: You've got four boxes, and you guys unveil who gets

1184
00:57:25,506 --> 00:57:29,826
Speaker 1: what game to the broadcast teams and to their executives

1185
00:57:30,226 --> 00:57:33,226
Speaker 1: in real time for the viewers to watch how that

1186
00:57:33,266 --> 00:57:34,066
Speaker 1: news goes down.

1187
00:57:34,466 --> 00:57:36,866
Speaker 3: Love it? Love it? You should? You should pitch it

1188
00:57:36,906 --> 00:57:37,586
Speaker 3: to the boss man.

1189
00:57:37,826 --> 00:57:40,706
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm gonna get my five minutes with Roger Goodell

1190
00:57:40,746 --> 00:57:42,666
Speaker 1: and that's what I'll pitch it now.

1191
00:57:42,666 --> 00:57:47,226
Speaker 3: Look, it's it's obviously an exciting time of year, and

1192
00:57:47,306 --> 00:57:50,546
Speaker 3: everybody's excited for that information. We're more focused on just

1193
00:57:50,866 --> 00:57:53,106
Speaker 3: getting it out as quickly as we can because it's

1194
00:57:53,146 --> 00:57:55,066
Speaker 3: a short run way to get ready for the most

1195
00:57:55,066 --> 00:57:56,986
Speaker 3: important game of the year. So I don't know that

1196
00:57:56,986 --> 00:57:58,946
Speaker 3: we're gonna hold it till one am for your TV

1197
00:57:59,026 --> 00:58:02,906
Speaker 3: show idea, But you know, if to the extent that

1198
00:58:02,946 --> 00:58:05,666
Speaker 3: fans are interested in how the sausage gets made. I

1199
00:58:05,666 --> 00:58:08,146
Speaker 3: think we've been a lot more honest, a lot more open,

1200
00:58:08,186 --> 00:58:11,986
Speaker 3: a lot more transparent over recent years. I do think

1201
00:58:12,026 --> 00:58:15,546
Speaker 3: that there's a healthy fan interest, a healthy appetite. I'm

1202
00:58:15,586 --> 00:58:17,826
Speaker 3: not sure you want to see us at midnight after eight.

1203
00:58:17,746 --> 00:58:21,106
Speaker 1: Hours is if you guys came out after the game.

1204
00:58:21,186 --> 00:58:23,266
Speaker 1: Because I have a feeling this year, unlike other years,

1205
00:58:23,866 --> 00:58:26,106
Speaker 1: that Week eighteen Sunday night game is gonna matter, like

1206
00:58:26,226 --> 00:58:29,626
Speaker 1: six different permutations are gonna like change based on.

1207
00:58:29,706 --> 00:58:32,586
Speaker 3: Look, We've been really lucky, right the week eighteen, now

1208
00:58:32,746 --> 00:58:35,706
Speaker 3: Week eighteen, now Week seventeen, then the Sunday night football

1209
00:58:35,706 --> 00:58:39,066
Speaker 3: game always seems to matter. After all these games, you

1210
00:58:39,186 --> 00:58:41,306
Speaker 3: always still manage to find yourself into that win and

1211
00:58:41,386 --> 00:58:44,746
Speaker 3: in game on Sunday Night. We've been very fortunate, and

1212
00:58:44,786 --> 00:58:47,666
Speaker 3: you're right just looking at how it's shaping up right now.

1213
00:58:48,066 --> 00:58:50,306
Speaker 3: You know, could be a Miami Buffalo, could be an

1214
00:58:50,306 --> 00:58:52,786
Speaker 3: Indie Houston, could be a pit bullt. I mean, there's

1215
00:58:52,786 --> 00:58:54,866
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of stuff at stake. I think

1216
00:58:54,946 --> 00:58:57,186
Speaker 3: Rams Niners is one of our Week eighteen games. There's

1217
00:58:57,186 --> 00:58:59,706
Speaker 3: gonna be a lot of stuff still to play for

1218
00:58:59,866 --> 00:59:02,506
Speaker 3: down the stretch and yeah, it'll be really interesting. And

1219
00:59:02,546 --> 00:59:04,546
Speaker 3: you're right, you know you talk about hey, let's get

1220
00:59:04,586 --> 00:59:07,106
Speaker 3: you know, Rob Hiland and Frankie Deeli up. You know

1221
00:59:07,466 --> 00:59:10,466
Speaker 3: they're gonna be busy producing. I'm not sure they're going

1222
00:59:10,546 --> 00:59:12,986
Speaker 3: to have the time and energy to look away and

1223
00:59:13,186 --> 00:59:16,786
Speaker 3: argue on their behalf for wild card scheduling, but it'll

1224
00:59:16,826 --> 00:59:19,066
Speaker 3: be it'll be a fun stretch run on. Hopefully we

1225
00:59:19,626 --> 00:59:20,826
Speaker 3: has everybody still in it.

1226
00:59:20,906 --> 00:59:22,826
Speaker 1: If you don't got to be the NFL Network show

1227
00:59:22,866 --> 00:59:24,826
Speaker 1: to do it, or you don't give me, we'll throw

1228
00:59:24,866 --> 00:59:27,146
Speaker 1: it on an NFL plus. What do you say there?

1229
00:59:27,186 --> 00:59:29,466
Speaker 1: You got subscriptions?

1230
00:59:29,506 --> 00:59:30,866
Speaker 3: Should be the face. You should be the face of

1231
00:59:30,986 --> 00:59:34,226
Speaker 3: NFL plus two right right here? What about games man?

1232
00:59:34,226 --> 00:59:37,186
Speaker 3: You've been doing sidelines forever. Do you want to you

1233
00:59:37,226 --> 00:59:38,466
Speaker 3: want to get in the you want to get in

1234
00:59:38,466 --> 00:59:39,986
Speaker 3: the big chair. You want to do play by play?

1235
00:59:39,986 --> 00:59:40,386
Speaker 3: Do you want to do?

1236
00:59:40,986 --> 00:59:43,626
Speaker 1: And I did preseason for the Rams and the Jets

1237
00:59:43,786 --> 00:59:46,666
Speaker 1: as an analyst, and I was next to an ex

1238
00:59:46,746 --> 00:59:49,826
Speaker 1: player in both those and I absolutely loved it. This year,

1239
00:59:49,866 --> 00:59:51,666
Speaker 1: I was hoping to do a sideline game. I wasn't

1240
00:59:51,666 --> 00:59:54,386
Speaker 1: assigned any of the NFL Network sideline games. So I

1241
00:59:54,426 --> 00:59:56,666
Speaker 1: was kind of bummed out. I was thinking, maybe I

1242
00:59:56,786 --> 00:59:58,826
Speaker 1: be spending my Christmas in Denver, but it's gonna be

1243
00:59:58,906 --> 01:00:01,306
Speaker 1: James Palmer and Sherry Burrs on the sidelines. I hope

1244
01:00:01,346 --> 01:00:03,226
Speaker 1: I get back in there. I do love doing it.

1245
01:00:03,266 --> 01:00:06,226
Speaker 1: Last year I did Buffalo Miami sidelines. I hit with

1246
01:00:06,266 --> 01:00:12,106
Speaker 1: a snowball. Yeah, that's like my highlight as a silas.

1247
01:00:13,026 --> 01:00:15,386
Speaker 3: I can't confirm. Let me hit you with a pitch

1248
01:00:15,386 --> 01:00:16,826
Speaker 3: before I let you go, let me hit you with

1249
01:00:16,866 --> 01:00:20,786
Speaker 3: a pitch. You've seen that we are going to Brazil, Yes,

1250
01:00:21,186 --> 01:00:23,946
Speaker 3: first time ever, South Paolo. Not sure when we're going

1251
01:00:24,026 --> 01:00:26,506
Speaker 3: to play it yet, still working with the you know,

1252
01:00:26,546 --> 01:00:29,146
Speaker 3: international folks. I know some folks have written some things.

1253
01:00:29,186 --> 01:00:31,946
Speaker 3: Nothing set yet. Don't know when that's game Gona, we've

1254
01:00:31,986 --> 01:00:35,066
Speaker 3: seen it could be. It's absolutely a conversation. I'm not

1255
01:00:35,106 --> 01:00:37,026
Speaker 3: sure it's as far down the line as some people

1256
01:00:37,026 --> 01:00:39,466
Speaker 3: think it is. But we're playing in Brazil. If that

1257
01:00:39,466 --> 01:00:42,026
Speaker 3: game ends up on NFL network, how about the Good

1258
01:00:42,026 --> 01:00:45,066
Speaker 3: Morning Football Crew goes to Brazil and calls that game

1259
01:00:45,066 --> 01:00:45,586
Speaker 3: from the booth.

1260
01:00:45,666 --> 01:00:47,826
Speaker 1: All right, as you say that, I am already in

1261
01:00:47,866 --> 01:00:52,026
Speaker 1: my head. Wheels in my head. Have an amazing idea.

1262
01:00:52,106 --> 01:00:54,706
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that entails, but like the

1263
01:00:54,746 --> 01:00:57,626
Speaker 1: Good Morning Football crew in Brazil for a week leading

1264
01:00:57,706 --> 01:00:59,866
Speaker 1: up to it, sounds of it.

1265
01:00:59,906 --> 01:01:02,546
Speaker 3: They do World Cups down there, they do Olympics down there.

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Speaker 3: Wait till the NFL rolls into town and you four

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Speaker 3: go in carnival. Let's go.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna clip this off. We're gonna roll this as

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Speaker 1: now we're in the depth of winter. We're all pale.

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Speaker 1: I'm twenty pounds, by the way. On NFL Network on Friday,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna get Kyle, Jamie and Jason's reaction to a

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Speaker 1: week in Brazil courtesy of the fine schedule makers and

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Speaker 1: your team over there, Mike, no further ado. We will

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Speaker 1: wrap this up with a thank you to all work

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Speaker 1: that you do and the dedication that you and your

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Speaker 1: team have. I know you, Charlotte Blake, obviously Annie, everyone

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Speaker 1: in that building. It's one of the most thankless jobs.

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Speaker 1: But it is so so important and we value you

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Speaker 1: guys so much, and I love our friendship, but also

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Speaker 1: the amazing work you do and how candid you are

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Speaker 1: with me on when you come on the podcast.

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Speaker 3: Always happy to talk to you. I love talking to

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Speaker 3: people that want to know that really care and look,

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01:01:56,026 --> 01:01:58,786
Speaker 3: we're all fans. That part's great. But when you learn

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Speaker 3: a little bit more about behind the scenes and how

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Speaker 3: the sausage gets made, and then it all culminates with

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Speaker 3: something big and fun, like that Philly Casey game we

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Speaker 3: talked to out or like hopefully Christmas coming up on Monday. Yeah, there's, uh,

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Speaker 3: there's there's there's some pride, but it's fleeting and you

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Speaker 3: know what's next and it never ends, and it's uh,

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Speaker 3: it's the best time of the year. Enjoying it. I

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Speaker 3: hope everybody else is enjoying it. And you certainly know

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Speaker 3: where to find me if you have any questions.

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Speaker 1: Awesome. Mike North one of our best guests, one of

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Speaker 1: our regular guests, a friend of the pod. If you

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Speaker 1: will have an awesome Christmas weekend, my friend, I know

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Speaker 1: you're a family man, but be sure to be watching

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Speaker 1: some football too.

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Speaker 3: Please, no, we'll be watching take care of I'll good

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Speaker 3: seeing it. Awesome.

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Speaker 1: Mike North is one of my favorite guests. Aaron, before

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Speaker 1: we just recap it, I was talking about the Eagles

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Speaker 1: and him and the Cowboys in the playoffs. Listen to this.

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Speaker 1: This is the headline I just got texted as we

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Speaker 1: do this on a Tuesday morning after the Eagles lost.

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Speaker 1: If both the Cowboys and the Eagles each run the table,

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Speaker 1: the NFC East will be determined by the fifth tiebreaker

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Speaker 1: strength of victory, and right now the Eagles hold the

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Speaker 1: edge on that. That is the NFL season in a nutshell.

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Speaker 1: If both teams just take care of their business from

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Speaker 1: here on out, the fifth tiebreaker the fifth tiebreaker and

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Speaker 1: that will enforce. And the crazy part about it, that's

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Speaker 1: not just like an AFC South and the Cowboys don't

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Speaker 1: lose at home, So if they lose out in the

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Speaker 1: fifth tiebreaker, they have to go play three road playoff

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Speaker 1: games before the Super Bowl. If they win it, they

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Speaker 1: likely have two home playoff games and then a road

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Speaker 1: NFC Championship game at San Francisco. That's the season, dude,

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Speaker 1: It's nuts. Mike North, so good. What was your big

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Speaker 1: takeaway on that interview?

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Speaker 2: I mean, as he was going through both the wild

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Speaker 2: card weekend games and even the things leading up to it,

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Speaker 2: like he was talking about Week eighteam. Obviously, as a

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Speaker 2: Bills fan, I'm focused on the Bills Dolphins game that week,

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Speaker 2: but there are so many good games and that's not

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Speaker 2: even me, just like you know, drinking the kool aid,

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Speaker 2: Like there are so many games in seventeen and eighteen

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Speaker 2: that really matter, and then all the wild card things,

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Speaker 2: everything will be exciting. There's there's not a game in

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Speaker 2: there where I'm like, oh man.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, the Titans, you know, getting clobbered by

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Speaker 2: the Ravens or something like, it's they're all going to

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Speaker 2: be good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: I love the dynamics of the networks. So when you

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Speaker 1: start getting into who gets the Cowboys right, like it's

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Speaker 1: the biggest ticket, let's call it like it is, and like,

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Speaker 1: how do you feed all those mouths? And then remember

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Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, Bucking Aikman were on Fox

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Speaker 1: and Aikman openly was bitching about you know, I made

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Speaker 1: a joke. He didn't bitch about it on there, but

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Speaker 1: you know I made a joke. As the Eagles were

1345
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Speaker 1: blowing out the Buccaneers. He's like, oh, forty nine ers Cowboys,

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01:04:54,186 --> 01:04:56,186
Speaker 1: two NFC teams would have loved to have had that game.

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Speaker 1: And it was on CBS, like all these things, and

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Speaker 1: there's all these different mouths to feed in billions of

1349
01:05:00,786 --> 01:05:03,746
Speaker 1: dollars at play who gets what game and when is

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Speaker 1: that game? So that was cool and I I don't

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01:05:06,706 --> 01:05:09,226
Speaker 1: think my pitch was that crazy, you know, just with

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01:05:09,306 --> 01:05:12,226
Speaker 1: the NFL that's looking to monetize and broadcast every single

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01:05:12,706 --> 01:05:15,266
Speaker 1: little thing, whether it be inside training camp or NFL

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Speaker 1: Kickoff weekend or the schedule. You're telling me fans finding

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Speaker 1: out when their team and what network their playoff game

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Speaker 1: is going to be on doesn't matter. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think it's pretty good, pretty sexy. And I also

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Speaker 1: I'm here for the Brazil trip. I don't see it

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Speaker 1: happening yet, but I'm here for the Brazil trip. I

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Speaker 1: don't like to get myself too excited about things. I

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Speaker 1: like to say, say grounded, but Brazil sounds pretty good.

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Speaker 1: I'll be wearing a I'll wear a thong bikini that

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Speaker 1: whole week if we get to go to Brazil. How's

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Speaker 1: that for a statement.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe I'm less excited for the Brazil trip now, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Or it's the podcast. The podcast will no video. On

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Speaker 1: that note, let's give our award away for the week.

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Speaker 1: We're having fun with these. This is the season with

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Speaker 1: Peter Schrager, and this is delivering results. Presented by Uber Eat,

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Speaker 1: and the person I want to shout out who delivered

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Speaker 1: results this weekend was Joe Flacco. Joe Flacco, second straight win,

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Speaker 1: Flacco down ten in the fourth quarter, finds a way

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Speaker 1: to lead his team to a victory, and the Cleveland

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Speaker 1: Browns find themselves nine to five on the season, comfortably

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Speaker 1: in a wild card spot, right there behind the Ravens

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Speaker 1: in the AFC North and the Joe Flacco led Browns.

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Speaker 1: Flacco thirty eight years old off the couch. How fitting.

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Speaker 1: With Uber eats as the sponsor, I'm sure he experimented

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Speaker 1: and dabble little Uber eats over the past twelve months.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go with Joe Flacco as our guy who

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Speaker 1: has delivered results, and that is delivering results presented by

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Speaker 1: Uber eats, where you can get almost almost anything, the

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Speaker 1: official on demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now

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Speaker 1: and I want to give a quick shout out to

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Speaker 1: one of the very important behind the scenes people at

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Speaker 1: this podcast, the season with Peter Schrager. Her name is Carly.

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Speaker 1: She's from the iHeart team, and Carly's on the IR

1388
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Speaker 1: right now. She had an injury and we know that

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Speaker 1: she's recovering. But I'm a huge fan of all the

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Speaker 1: folks at the iHeart Squad, and Carly has been a

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Speaker 1: big part of this show. I'm told she listens to

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Speaker 1: the program and she's making a very nice recovery. So

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Speaker 1: we hope to have her back on the field real soon.

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Speaker 1: And Carly, you better believe it. We hope to have

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Speaker 1: you back up and running. And I'll tell you what,

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Speaker 1: if you need some uber eats, I'm your guy. I

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Speaker 1: will order you some whatever you need. We need you

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Speaker 1: back on the field soon. But we're thinking about you, Carly.

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Speaker 1: And on that note, another episode of the season with

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Speaker 1: Peter schragerm many thanks to Mike North, who dedicated way

1401
01:07:39,586 --> 01:07:41,746
Speaker 1: too much time to this silly little podcast. I know

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01:07:41,786 --> 01:07:44,746
Speaker 1: he's a busy man, but we really enjoy it, and

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Speaker 1: I enjoy all the feedback from listeners. I'm not tooting

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Speaker 1: my own horn here when I'm saying that de veto

1405
01:07:50,626 --> 01:07:53,226
Speaker 1: Stillato stuff. Last week it was, oh, I know the agent,

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Speaker 1: let's have him on. And I think it was the

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Speaker 1: first real window that we got to Sean Stillato and

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Speaker 1: then he was the story of the week. And we

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Speaker 1: like to set the agenda, like to set the tone

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Speaker 1: and we like to give you guys a peek inside.

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Speaker 1: I can assure you not everyone's talking to Mike North

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Speaker 1: this week on the eve of a very important three

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Speaker 1: week stretch for the NFL and then the playoff run.

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Speaker 1: Proud of this podcast, Proud of you Aaron, proud of

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Speaker 1: Jason English here, and proud of all the people who

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Speaker 1: work on it, but also so grateful for the listeners.

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Speaker 1: As we head to the holiday season, everyone please have

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Speaker 1: a great Christmas, great New Year, and as always, be

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Speaker 1: safe as we watch our football over the weekend. The

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Speaker 1: Season with Peter Schrager is a production of the NFL

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Speaker 1: and partnership with iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit

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Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever you get your podcasts.