Speaker 1: Now that's alarming. It's one more thing. I'm strong and getty.
Speaker 1: One more thing.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 3: I know we're about to talk about alarm clocks, but
Speaker 3: the old it's a Seinfeld joke. The number one mistake
Speaker 3: you make with the alarm clock is you get the
Speaker 3: AMPM thing wrong. Right, you're sleeping. You realize you said
Speaker 3: it the other day. Yeah, you said it for six
Speaker 3: thirty pm instead of am. Surely AI can get involved
Speaker 3: in that at some point and say, are you sure
Speaker 3: you want to get up at six thirty pm tomorrow?
Speaker 3: You've never gotten up at six thirty pm before, so
Speaker 3: it seems unlikely that would be you've never slept the
Speaker 3: entire day. I think you probably mean six thirty am.
Speaker 3: Surely AI can take care of that in the future.
Speaker 3: Why can't it now on my iPhone? Why doesn't it
Speaker 3: now on my iPhone? Say you're taking a nap for
Speaker 3: fourteen hours?
Speaker 2: Are you really intending to sleep from three pm to
Speaker 2: you know, four fifteen tomorrow morning?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's an excellent point. All those Sometimes you'll
Speaker 2: set an alarm for I will. I will actually if
Speaker 2: I'm playing golf the next morning and I've had a
Speaker 2: good practice session at all, and I want to remember
Speaker 2: one particular thing or technique or something. I'll sometimes schedule
Speaker 2: it ten minutes before I'm going to get to the
Speaker 2: golf court golf course, an alarm that says you know whatever,
Speaker 2: you know, good tempo whatever. So anyway, maybe someday they
Speaker 2: will have that breakthrough. But as I was bitching about
Speaker 2: during the show, they can't even get like periods and
Speaker 2: commas right, or spelling or it's deaf, Siri is deaf,
Speaker 2: sirih needs a hearing test well.
Speaker 3: And my complaint always is because I watch it all
Speaker 3: voice text it, it gets it right the first time,
Speaker 3: then changes it into chibberish. That's what confuses me the most.
Speaker 3: You heard it correctly, then changed it to something else.
Speaker 2: Why you know, another gripe which reminds me of a
Speaker 2: different thing. But and this is I realized, this is
Speaker 2: like I'm the only person on earth who is offended
Speaker 2: by this. But Apple, stop hyphenating so much.
Speaker 1: It's a thing.
Speaker 2: You don't want to hyphenate words unless you absolutely have to,
Speaker 2: especially names. Happen to me today I was texting something
Speaker 2: hyphenated in the middle of somebody's name. It's I mean
Speaker 2: and the reason it flabbergasts me is that there's a
Speaker 2: long tradition of editing in the English language publications, books, magazines, whatever,
Speaker 2: even websites, and the rules are known. They're right there
Speaker 2: for the AI systems to learn. But for whatever reason,
Speaker 2: Apple is obsessed with hyphenating so stop, which also reminds
Speaker 2: me of this piece I saw where was that in
Speaker 2: the Wall Street Journal? The global elite have given up
Speaker 2: on spelling and grammar. The Epstein Pracus where all those
Speaker 2: communications were unearthed and released and the rest of it,
Speaker 2: probably improperly, but that's a story for another day. Nobody
Speaker 2: bothers to capitalize anymore. It's full and these are like
Speaker 2: the elito Wall Street. I didn't an academia and science.
Speaker 3: I did notice that that the situation sucks. There's misspellings
Speaker 3: everywhere incredibly well, they're like the way I do it,
Speaker 3: just incredibly relaxed.
Speaker 1: Do you just.
Speaker 3: Which I'm fine with, but just get the words out?
Speaker 3: And uh yeah. I was kind of surprised by that.
Speaker 1: I cannot send a text with a grammatical error.
Speaker 3: Well what do you call it?
Speaker 1: If I do?
Speaker 2: I feel regret like I don't know, I accidentally ran
Speaker 2: over a cat with my car feel bad?
Speaker 3: What what? It depends on the grammatical error, like I
Speaker 3: can't send a wrong version of their Oh, that's.
Speaker 1: Funny, that's at the top of my list. I can't either.
Speaker 3: I regue because I have people think I'm stupid. But
Speaker 3: I don't see any reason that capitalize anything ever again
Speaker 3: in my life. Oh, I capitalize everything, all the capitalize.
Speaker 1: Why don't they?
Speaker 2: Why don't you run around on all fours grunting, huh, gonna.
Speaker 1: Abandon your humanity, civilization. I think that's a fair criticism.
Speaker 1: Let's move on.
Speaker 3: I do periods in my my just law long screed.
Speaker 3: Oh no, you can figure it out from the context.
Speaker 3: No punctuation.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I hate we all hate you. Yes, I sent
Speaker 5: the wrong too. Yesterday I meant t O O and
Speaker 5: I sent.
Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't want to do, and.
Speaker 4: I jumped at the edit button.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my.
Speaker 3: God, it's amazing. Like the AI have bots who I
Speaker 3: talked to a lot. They can understand my endless stream
Speaker 3: of words with no punctuation perfectly fine. They know logically
Speaker 3: where the word you too.
Speaker 2: They hate me, but apple is actually sad at AI stuff.
Speaker 1: It's funny.
Speaker 2: Anyway, Oh, let's see, just get back to the topic
Speaker 2: at hand, which is the fascinating history of alarm clocks
Speaker 2: and more. We talked about this on the show the
Speaker 2: podcast earlier, but we didn't get time to do it
Speaker 2: right in my opinion, first of all alternative alarm clocks,
Speaker 2: including the sonic Bomb for the deepest sleepers. It's unbelievably loud.
Speaker 2: It flashes bright lights. And there's this it looks like
Speaker 2: a hockey puck. It's a bed vibrator. You tuck I
Speaker 2: think under your mattress and it's so strong it shakes
Speaker 2: you awake. So if you're flashing lights, screaming sirens in
Speaker 2: your bed, being shaken like it's the Blitz in nineteen
Speaker 2: forty one.
Speaker 3: Wow, I'm a light sleeper. So any alarm clock could
Speaker 3: you say, HEYMP, it's time to get it. He'd be
Speaker 3: perfectly fine on me. I'd wake up, not me, shut up.
Speaker 2: And then we talked about this on the show. This
Speaker 2: alarm clock, the Pavlock shock clock, which I believe is
Speaker 2: a play.
Speaker 1: On Pavlov's dogs.
Speaker 2: But anyway, this gal gets shocked with about three hundred
Speaker 2: volts to her right wrist to get her up in
Speaker 2: the morning.
Speaker 1: That's weird.
Speaker 3: I would wet myself for one thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So she wears like this, well, look like a watch
Speaker 2: band to sleep at night, and she gets electrocuted to
Speaker 2: wake her up in the morning.
Speaker 1: She says, yes, like a.
Speaker 2: It's now it's a six or seven on the pain scale.
Speaker 2: She said, it's somebody pinching you, not softly.
Speaker 3: Wow. Okay, So, like, I don't exactly know what three
Speaker 3: hundred volts feels like, but I wouldn't call anything that's
Speaker 3: a seven on the pain scale minor.
Speaker 5: This all sounds like a way to just piss me
Speaker 5: off immediately at the beginning of dark the day.
Speaker 3: Angry, Yeah, and wet because I wet myself.
Speaker 2: Well, and that's She sets hers at seventy five percent
Speaker 2: of the maximum voltage at three hundred. It sounds terrible
Speaker 2: her just sets it to twenty five.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, let's see.
Speaker 2: There's this other stuff that we talked about a little
Speaker 2: bit where you have to when your alarm goes off,
Speaker 2: you take your smartphone and you have to scan a
Speaker 2: barcode like in your bathroom to show your up and
Speaker 2: moving otherwise otherwise it donates your money to charity.
Speaker 4: I like that. One.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of funny.
Speaker 2: Man. I want to sleep in, but I don't want
Speaker 2: to sleep in twenty five bucks worth.
Speaker 1: All right, I'll get up.
Speaker 3: How about if you said it, it will, it will
Speaker 3: booty call an ex girlfriend if you don't get out
Speaker 3: of bed.
Speaker 2: By god, I'm sure that is a really good idea.
Speaker 2: You can set it for whatever amount of money you want.
Speaker 2: But there was one user who must have been crazy
Speaker 2: rich set it for nine hundred and ninety nine dollars
Speaker 2: and it went off three times.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: They have the weird self punishment thing like I have
Speaker 3: not around our alarm clocks, but other things right, Like,
Speaker 3: I feel like if I punish myself enough, I want
Speaker 3: to I don't get it wrong, which doesn't always work. Well,
Speaker 3: everybody's done the like put the alarm clock across the room,
Speaker 3: right or something, so you just you have to get
Speaker 3: out of bed, and once you're out of bed, it's
Speaker 3: less likely or you're just gonna fall back asleep.
Speaker 1: Gosh.
Speaker 5: I miss the days of being able to sleep like that,
Speaker 5: being at like a heavy sleeper.
Speaker 4: I am not anymore. I guess I don't know.
Speaker 5: I wake up at everything I used to be able
Speaker 5: to sleep through a concert and now it's there's not
Speaker 5: a chance.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sleep does change through life. It absolutely does. Another
Speaker 2: wake up app is Alarmy, which has roughly nine hundred
Speaker 2: thousand daily users in the US. It gives you missions
Speaker 2: such as doing squats, shaking the phone, or typing out
Speaker 2: motivational quotes before it stops sounding to make sure you're awake.
Speaker 3: Wow, you have to do as problem or something. So
Speaker 3: I can't just flip it off and go back to sleep.
Speaker 3: I have to do ten deep knee bends and that's
Speaker 3: definitely gonna wake me up and up stay awake.
Speaker 4: How would it know you did ten squats?
Speaker 3: That's a good question.
Speaker 1: Maybe it has the sensor, but yeah, I would just
Speaker 1: check it up and down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, would you jack it up?
Speaker 1: You son?
Speaker 2: And this this gal who says, uh, she's motivated because
Speaker 2: her husband hates it, and so she's motivated to do
Speaker 2: it really quick and get up.
Speaker 1: Let's see, all right, here we go.
Speaker 3: Tell me the idea when the first alarm clock was
Speaker 3: like how back, how back? How far back? To alarm
Speaker 3: clocks go like mechanical ones where you wid you should say.
Speaker 1: That I was just about to get into and I
Speaker 1: know how excited Michael Is for this, I really am.
Speaker 1: This reminds me history of the alarm clock. Did I
Speaker 1: say fascinated? I'm an idiot.
Speaker 3: It reminds me. Moving around vacation. We were driving through
Speaker 3: Idaho and we kept seeing billboards for the Potato Hall
Speaker 3: of Fame, and I kept telling my kids, Oh, only
Speaker 3: three hundred more miles. This rank's right up there, the
Speaker 3: history of alarm clocks and the Potato Hall of Fame.
Speaker 1: The Potato Hall of Fame.
Speaker 3: Did you stop?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: I kept telling them we were going to and they
Speaker 3: had grown missed off.
Speaker 2: Oh no, you got your You got like your hundred
Speaker 2: greatest potatoes of all time.
Speaker 1: They're kids like, that's a r eh boy.
Speaker 2: Long before apps like alarmy, makers of alarm clocks recognized
Speaker 2: that some of their products needed a tinge of menace.
Speaker 2: Demand for alarm clocks took off in the late nineteenth century.
Speaker 3: Late eighteen I was going to guess earlier than that.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, I think probably Industrial Revolution, because before people
Speaker 2: would go to bed at dark and wake up at
Speaker 2: light more or less and do their do their stuff
Speaker 2: in the daylight.
Speaker 1: Let's see.
Speaker 2: Early models were named the rattler, the slumber stopper and
Speaker 2: the tornado. The west clock siesta was advertised in the
Speaker 2: nineteen thirties as having a second, more insistent alarm that
Speaker 2: went off ten minutes.
Speaker 1: After the first one. Ah good, one good, more or
Speaker 1: less the invention of the stool's alarm.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, other long ago alarms lit a flame or
Speaker 2: made a pot of coffee.
Speaker 4: Oh see, now we're talking.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
Speaker 2: I tell you what if you could fry up some
Speaker 2: bacon and make me a pot of coffee. That's the
Speaker 2: smell of that alone. I would, you know, float out
Speaker 2: of bed like a cartoon character.
Speaker 4: Be on?
Speaker 3: Is there settled science on whether or not the snooze
Speaker 3: is a good idea? Is sleeping to the maximum time
Speaker 3: you can get up the best way? Or is cutting
Speaker 3: ten to fifteen minutes out of your sleep with the
Speaker 3: snooze alarm the best way? I could you can make
Speaker 3: an argument for both. I've always used the snooze, but
Speaker 3: it does cheat you out of you know, if you're
Speaker 3: deep asleep eight ten, twelve whatever you said it for
Speaker 3: minutes of deep sleep?
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: I've heard scientists say, in fact, it's practically universal that no,
Speaker 2: you're better off not using the snoozele.
Speaker 1: It makes sense, sleep and then wake up.
Speaker 3: I just can't get up on that first hand the film.
Speaker 3: I can't the first noise. Now I got to jump
Speaker 3: up out of bed. I can't do it.
Speaker 2: It's not a question of sleep, it's a question of
Speaker 2: like emotionally to me, I've got to ease into the
Speaker 2: idea of getting out of my nice warm bed and
Speaker 2: taking on the day.
Speaker 1: I gotta get psyched up for nine minutes or so.
Speaker 3: I can't face another day.
Speaker 1: Today.
Speaker 2: There are alarms that wow, oh, cry for help, cry
Speaker 2: for lark. Today there are alarms that turn off when
Speaker 2: the would be snoozers shoot a fake gun at a target,
Speaker 2: or curl a.
Speaker 1: Small dumb bell.
Speaker 2: Oh boy Clockey, a wheel device that made his debut
Speaker 2: about twenty years ago, hops off a bedside table in
Speaker 2: beeps as it zooms around the room.
Speaker 1: You have to catch it.
Speaker 5: You did, did, yes, and it was the it was awful.
Speaker 4: Well, dude, you'd guy like you go try to pick it.
Speaker 5: Up and then cause it's it's a box and it's
Speaker 5: got two big wheels, so it can just change directions.
Speaker 4: How like groggy, it goes in between your legs. I'll
Speaker 4: the amount of times. I want to chuck that thing.
Speaker 3: Once I got it idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I opened talking about the what was it
Speaker 2: called the alarm bomb or whatever? That was crazy loud
Speaker 2: one oh, the sonic bomb one hundred and thirteen decibels
Speaker 2: crack yeah to supplement the noise, and has flashing red lights,
Speaker 2: bed shaking puck for under the mattress or pillow. Even
Speaker 2: though it was originally made for the deaf and heart
Speaker 2: of hearing, it's really it has a huge following among college.
Speaker 1: Kids, said the marketing director. One you.
Speaker 2: The review reads, I have a heart attack every morning,
Speaker 2: but it really wakes me up. Sleep doctors say that
Speaker 2: some amount of what they call sleep inertia is normal.
Speaker 2: Bah bah bah. So yeah, it's sleep inertia. It speaks
Speaker 2: for itself. Let's see it ends with Kinsey Small, a
Speaker 2: thirty one year old software engineer in Boston, has been
Speaker 2: using Alarmy for years. First thing she does in the
Speaker 2: morning is give her phone thirty vigorous shakes. Yeah, me too,
Speaker 2: smacking it with one hand into the palm of the other.
Speaker 2: The shaking somehow gets me to that point where I'm awake.
Speaker 2: I know that I'm up, and I have to go
Speaker 2: to work. I really do think this is the reason
Speaker 2: I still have a job. Yeah, some sort of physical
Speaker 2: activity like that would do it.
Speaker 3: There was a sleep highgiene article in the New York
Speaker 3: Times a couple of weeks ago, like this is everything
Speaker 3: we now know about sleep, And one of the number
Speaker 3: one things they said for good sleep is to go
Speaker 3: to bed and get up at the same time every day. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and I've never done that. I don't do it on
Speaker 3: a Monday through Friday basis, let alone on the weekends.
Speaker 3: But they said that is the best thing you can
Speaker 3: do for your sleep, is to train your body same
Speaker 3: time every day. My dad's always done that. He's the
Speaker 3: opposite of me. He's always gone to bed like nine thirty.
Speaker 3: He's asleep, and he gets up at four thirty or whatever.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I'm practically religious about it all right.
Speaker 2: Through the years, I've noticed that if you're like crazy
Speaker 2: short out in sleep, it doesn't affect you much.
Speaker 1: Me.
Speaker 2: I'm psychotic, so I don't like the feeling of being
Speaker 2: sleep deprived. It's so miserable. That's part of the reason
Speaker 2: life I ever. I get to ten fifteen, I'm like, no,
Speaker 2: I'm going to bed.
Speaker 3: Good en If I've ever not been sleep deprived, so
Speaker 3: I don't know what that would feel like.
Speaker 4: Now it's a blast.
Speaker 3: I push myself really hard on that, which will kill
Speaker 3: me early, no doubt about it. Probably the most unhealthy
Speaker 3: thing I do.
Speaker 2: Jack, there's no alarm clock in the grave, he says,
Speaker 2: trying to somehow tie that dark thing together with the theme, how.
Speaker 1: Do I do?
Speaker 4: Nailed it?
Speaker 1: How's this for an idea for an alarm clock?
Speaker 2: You hire somebody with an ice bucket and at three
Speaker 2: am they just dumped that water crap.
Speaker 3: I probably would have a heart attack on that.
Speaker 4: I would haul off and punch that person.
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yeah, I would beat them hard, bulkhep assault charge,
Speaker 2: no holds barred.
Speaker 1: Yes, but you'd be awake. Yes, you know what You're right, Michael, Well.
Speaker 4: I guess that's it.
Speaker 3: You're losing an eye, but I'm awake.