WEBVTT - Now That's Alarming! 

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<v Speaker 1>Now that's alarming. It's one more thing. I'm strong and getty.

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<v Speaker 1>One more thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I know we're about to talk about alarm clocks, but

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<v Speaker 3>the old it's a Seinfeld joke. The number one mistake

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<v Speaker 3>you make with the alarm clock is you get the

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<v Speaker 3>AMPM thing wrong. Right, you're sleeping. You realize you said

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<v Speaker 3>it the other day. Yeah, you said it for six

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<v Speaker 3>thirty pm instead of am. Surely AI can get involved

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<v Speaker 3>in that at some point and say, are you sure

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<v Speaker 3>you want to get up at six thirty pm tomorrow?

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<v Speaker 3>You've never gotten up at six thirty pm before, so

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<v Speaker 3>it seems unlikely that would be you've never slept the

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<v Speaker 3>entire day. I think you probably mean six thirty am.

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<v Speaker 3>Surely AI can take care of that in the future.

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<v Speaker 3>Why can't it now on my iPhone? Why doesn't it

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<v Speaker 3>now on my iPhone? Say you're taking a nap for

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<v Speaker 3>fourteen hours?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you really intending to sleep from three pm to

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<v Speaker 2>you know, four fifteen tomorrow morning?

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<v Speaker 4>Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's that's an excellent point. All those Sometimes you'll

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<v Speaker 2>set an alarm for I will. I will actually if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm playing golf the next morning and I've had a

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<v Speaker 2>good practice session at all, and I want to remember

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<v Speaker 2>one particular thing or technique or something. I'll sometimes schedule

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<v Speaker 2>it ten minutes before I'm going to get to the

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<v Speaker 2>golf court golf course, an alarm that says you know whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, good tempo whatever. So anyway, maybe someday they

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<v Speaker 2>will have that breakthrough. But as I was bitching about

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<v Speaker 2>during the show, they can't even get like periods and

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<v Speaker 2>commas right, or spelling or it's deaf, Siri is deaf,

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<v Speaker 2>sirih needs a hearing test well.

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<v Speaker 3>And my complaint always is because I watch it all

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<v Speaker 3>voice text it, it gets it right the first time,

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<v Speaker 3>then changes it into chibberish. That's what confuses me the most.

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<v Speaker 3>You heard it correctly, then changed it to something else.

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<v Speaker 2>Why you know, another gripe which reminds me of a

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<v Speaker 2>different thing. But and this is I realized, this is

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm the only person on earth who is offended

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<v Speaker 2>by this. But Apple, stop hyphenating so much.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't want to hyphenate words unless you absolutely have to,

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<v Speaker 2>especially names. Happen to me today I was texting something

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<v Speaker 2>hyphenated in the middle of somebody's name. It's I mean

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<v Speaker 2>and the reason it flabbergasts me is that there's a

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<v Speaker 2>long tradition of editing in the English language publications, books, magazines, whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>even websites, and the rules are known. They're right there

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<v Speaker 2>for the AI systems to learn. But for whatever reason,

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<v Speaker 2>Apple is obsessed with hyphenating so stop, which also reminds

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<v Speaker 2>me of this piece I saw where was that in

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<v Speaker 2>the Wall Street Journal? The global elite have given up

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<v Speaker 2>on spelling and grammar. The Epstein Pracus where all those

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<v Speaker 2>communications were unearthed and released and the rest of it,

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<v Speaker 2>probably improperly, but that's a story for another day. Nobody

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<v Speaker 2>bothers to capitalize anymore. It's full and these are like

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<v Speaker 2>the elito Wall Street. I didn't an academia and science.

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<v Speaker 3>I did notice that that the situation sucks. There's misspellings

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<v Speaker 3>everywhere incredibly well, they're like the way I do it,

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<v Speaker 3>just incredibly relaxed.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you just.

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<v Speaker 3>Which I'm fine with, but just get the words out?

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<v Speaker 3>And uh yeah. I was kind of surprised by that.

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<v Speaker 1>I cannot send a text with a grammatical error.

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<v Speaker 3>Well what do you call it?

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<v Speaker 1>If I do?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel regret like I don't know, I accidentally ran

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<v Speaker 2>over a cat with my car feel bad?

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<v Speaker 3>What what? It depends on the grammatical error, like I

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<v Speaker 3>can't send a wrong version of their Oh, that's.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny, that's at the top of my list. I can't either.

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<v Speaker 3>I regue because I have people think I'm stupid. But

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<v Speaker 3>I don't see any reason that capitalize anything ever again

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<v Speaker 3>in my life. Oh, I capitalize everything, all the capitalize.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't they?

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<v Speaker 2>Why don't you run around on all fours grunting, huh, gonna.

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<v Speaker 1>Abandon your humanity, civilization. I think that's a fair criticism.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on.

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<v Speaker 3>I do periods in my my just law long screed.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh no, you can figure it out from the context.

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<v Speaker 3>No punctuation.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I hate we all hate you. Yes, I sent

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<v Speaker 5>the wrong too. Yesterday I meant t O O and

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<v Speaker 5>I sent.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know, I don't want to do, and.

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<v Speaker 4>I jumped at the edit button.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, oh my.

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<v Speaker 3>God, it's amazing. Like the AI have bots who I

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<v Speaker 3>talked to a lot. They can understand my endless stream

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<v Speaker 3>of words with no punctuation perfectly fine. They know logically

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<v Speaker 3>where the word you too.

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<v Speaker 2>They hate me, but apple is actually sad at AI stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Oh, let's see, just get back to the topic

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<v Speaker 2>at hand, which is the fascinating history of alarm clocks

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<v Speaker 2>and more. We talked about this on the show the

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<v Speaker 2>podcast earlier, but we didn't get time to do it

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<v Speaker 2>right in my opinion, first of all alternative alarm clocks,

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<v Speaker 2>including the sonic Bomb for the deepest sleepers. It's unbelievably loud.

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<v Speaker 2>It flashes bright lights. And there's this it looks like

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<v Speaker 2>a hockey puck. It's a bed vibrator. You tuck I

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<v Speaker 2>think under your mattress and it's so strong it shakes

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<v Speaker 2>you awake. So if you're flashing lights, screaming sirens in

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<v Speaker 2>your bed, being shaken like it's the Blitz in nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>forty one.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, I'm a light sleeper. So any alarm clock could

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<v Speaker 3>you say, HEYMP, it's time to get it. He'd be

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<v Speaker 3>perfectly fine on me. I'd wake up, not me, shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>And then we talked about this on the show. This

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<v Speaker 2>alarm clock, the Pavlock shock clock, which I believe is

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<v Speaker 2>a play.

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<v Speaker 1>On Pavlov's dogs.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, this gal gets shocked with about three hundred

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<v Speaker 2>volts to her right wrist to get her up in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>That's weird.

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<v Speaker 3>I would wet myself for one thing.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So she wears like this, well, look like a watch

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<v Speaker 2>band to sleep at night, and she gets electrocuted to

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<v Speaker 2>wake her up in the morning.

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<v Speaker 1>She says, yes, like a.

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<v Speaker 2>It's now it's a six or seven on the pain scale.

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<v Speaker 2>She said, it's somebody pinching you, not softly.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow. Okay, So, like, I don't exactly know what three

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<v Speaker 3>hundred volts feels like, but I wouldn't call anything that's

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<v Speaker 3>a seven on the pain scale minor.

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<v Speaker 5>This all sounds like a way to just piss me

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<v Speaker 5>off immediately at the beginning of dark the day.

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<v Speaker 3>Angry, Yeah, and wet because I wet myself.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, and that's She sets hers at seventy five percent

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<v Speaker 2>of the maximum voltage at three hundred. It sounds terrible

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<v Speaker 2>her just sets it to twenty five.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Oh, let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>There's this other stuff that we talked about a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit where you have to when your alarm goes off,

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<v Speaker 2>you take your smartphone and you have to scan a

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<v Speaker 2>barcode like in your bathroom to show your up and

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<v Speaker 2>moving otherwise otherwise it donates your money to charity.

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<v Speaker 4>I like that. One.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's kind of funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Man. I want to sleep in, but I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to sleep in twenty five bucks worth.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, I'll get up.

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<v Speaker 3>How about if you said it, it will, it will

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<v Speaker 3>booty call an ex girlfriend if you don't get out

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<v Speaker 3>of bed.

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<v Speaker 2>By god, I'm sure that is a really good idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You can set it for whatever amount of money you want.

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<v Speaker 2>But there was one user who must have been crazy

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<v Speaker 2>rich set it for nine hundred and ninety nine dollars

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<v Speaker 2>and it went off three times.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 3>They have the weird self punishment thing like I have

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<v Speaker 3>not around our alarm clocks, but other things right, Like,

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<v Speaker 3>I feel like if I punish myself enough, I want

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<v Speaker 3>to I don't get it wrong, which doesn't always work. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>everybody's done the like put the alarm clock across the room,

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<v Speaker 3>right or something, so you just you have to get

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<v Speaker 3>out of bed, and once you're out of bed, it's

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<v Speaker 3>less likely or you're just gonna fall back asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>Gosh.

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<v Speaker 5>I miss the days of being able to sleep like that,

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<v Speaker 5>being at like a heavy sleeper.

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<v Speaker 4>I am not anymore. I guess I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I wake up at everything I used to be able

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<v Speaker 5>to sleep through a concert and now it's there's not

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<v Speaker 5>a chance.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, sleep does change through life. It absolutely does. Another

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<v Speaker 2>wake up app is Alarmy, which has roughly nine hundred

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<v Speaker 2>thousand daily users in the US. It gives you missions

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<v Speaker 2>such as doing squats, shaking the phone, or typing out

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<v Speaker 2>motivational quotes before it stops sounding to make sure you're awake.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, you have to do as problem or something. So

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<v Speaker 3>I can't just flip it off and go back to sleep.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to do ten deep knee bends and that's

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<v Speaker 3>definitely gonna wake me up and up stay awake.

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<v Speaker 4>How would it know you did ten squats?

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good question.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it has the sensor, but yeah, I would just

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<v Speaker 1>check it up and down.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, would you jack it up?

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<v Speaker 1>You son?

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<v Speaker 2>And this this gal who says, uh, she's motivated because

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<v Speaker 2>her husband hates it, and so she's motivated to do

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<v Speaker 2>it really quick and get up.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see, all right, here we go.

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me the idea when the first alarm clock was

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<v Speaker 3>like how back, how back? How far back? To alarm

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<v Speaker 3>clocks go like mechanical ones where you wid you should say.

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<v Speaker 1>That I was just about to get into and I

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<v Speaker 1>know how excited Michael Is for this, I really am.

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<v Speaker 1>This reminds me history of the alarm clock. Did I

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<v Speaker 1>say fascinated? I'm an idiot.

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<v Speaker 3>It reminds me. Moving around vacation. We were driving through

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<v Speaker 3>Idaho and we kept seeing billboards for the Potato Hall

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<v Speaker 3>of Fame, and I kept telling my kids, Oh, only

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred more miles. This rank's right up there, the

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<v Speaker 3>history of alarm clocks and the Potato Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 1>The Potato Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 3>Did you stop?

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<v Speaker 5>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I kept telling them we were going to and they

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<v Speaker 3>had grown missed off.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, you got your You got like your hundred

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<v Speaker 2>greatest potatoes of all time.

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<v Speaker 1>They're kids like, that's a r eh boy.

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<v Speaker 2>Long before apps like alarmy, makers of alarm clocks recognized

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<v Speaker 2>that some of their products needed a tinge of menace.

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<v Speaker 2>Demand for alarm clocks took off in the late nineteenth century.

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<v Speaker 3>Late eighteen I was going to guess earlier than that.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, yeah, I think probably Industrial Revolution, because before people

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<v Speaker 2>would go to bed at dark and wake up at

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<v Speaker 2>light more or less and do their do their stuff

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<v Speaker 2>in the daylight.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see.

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<v Speaker 2>Early models were named the rattler, the slumber stopper and

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<v Speaker 2>the tornado. The west clock siesta was advertised in the

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen thirties as having a second, more insistent alarm that

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<v Speaker 2>went off ten minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>After the first one. Ah good, one good, more or

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<v Speaker 1>less the invention of the stool's alarm.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah yeah, other long ago alarms lit a flame or

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<v Speaker 2>made a pot of coffee.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh see, now we're talking.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I tell you what if you could fry up some

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<v Speaker 2>bacon and make me a pot of coffee. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>smell of that alone. I would, you know, float out

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<v Speaker 2>of bed like a cartoon character.

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<v Speaker 4>Be on?

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<v Speaker 3>Is there settled science on whether or not the snooze

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<v Speaker 3>is a good idea? Is sleeping to the maximum time

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<v Speaker 3>you can get up the best way? Or is cutting

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<v Speaker 3>ten to fifteen minutes out of your sleep with the

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<v Speaker 3>snooze alarm the best way? I could you can make

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<v Speaker 3>an argument for both. I've always used the snooze, but

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<v Speaker 3>it does cheat you out of you know, if you're

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<v Speaker 3>deep asleep eight ten, twelve whatever you said it for

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<v Speaker 3>minutes of deep sleep?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I've heard scientists say, in fact, it's practically universal that no,

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<v Speaker 2>you're better off not using the snoozele.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sense, sleep and then wake up.

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<v Speaker 3>I just can't get up on that first hand the film.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't the first noise. Now I got to jump

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<v Speaker 3>up out of bed. I can't do it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not a question of sleep, it's a question of

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<v Speaker 2>like emotionally to me, I've got to ease into the

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<v Speaker 2>idea of getting out of my nice warm bed and

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<v Speaker 2>taking on the day.

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta get psyched up for nine minutes or so.

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<v Speaker 3>I can't face another day.

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<v Speaker 1>Today.

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<v Speaker 2>There are alarms that wow, oh, cry for help, cry

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<v Speaker 2>for lark. Today there are alarms that turn off when

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<v Speaker 2>the would be snoozers shoot a fake gun at a target,

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<v Speaker 2>or curl a.

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<v Speaker 1>Small dumb bell.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh boy Clockey, a wheel device that made his debut

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<v Speaker 2>about twenty years ago, hops off a bedside table in

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<v Speaker 2>beeps as it zooms around the room.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to catch it.

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<v Speaker 5>You did, did, yes, and it was the it was awful.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, dude, you'd guy like you go try to pick it.

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<v Speaker 5>Up and then cause it's it's a box and it's

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<v Speaker 5>got two big wheels, so it can just change directions.

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<v Speaker 4>How like groggy, it goes in between your legs. I'll

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<v Speaker 4>the amount of times. I want to chuck that thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Once I got it idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I opened talking about the what was it

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<v Speaker 2>called the alarm bomb or whatever? That was crazy loud

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<v Speaker 2>one oh, the sonic bomb one hundred and thirteen decibels

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<v Speaker 2>crack yeah to supplement the noise, and has flashing red lights,

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<v Speaker 2>bed shaking puck for under the mattress or pillow. Even

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<v Speaker 2>though it was originally made for the deaf and heart

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<v Speaker 2>of hearing, it's really it has a huge following among college.

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<v Speaker 1>Kids, said the marketing director. One you.

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<v Speaker 2>The review reads, I have a heart attack every morning,

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<v Speaker 2>but it really wakes me up. Sleep doctors say that

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<v Speaker 2>some amount of what they call sleep inertia is normal.

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<v Speaker 2>Bah bah bah. So yeah, it's sleep inertia. It speaks

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<v Speaker 2>for itself. Let's see it ends with Kinsey Small, a

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<v Speaker 2>thirty one year old software engineer in Boston, has been

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<v Speaker 2>using Alarmy for years. First thing she does in the

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<v Speaker 2>morning is give her phone thirty vigorous shakes. Yeah, me too,

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<v Speaker 2>smacking it with one hand into the palm of the other.

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<v Speaker 2>The shaking somehow gets me to that point where I'm awake.

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<v Speaker 2>I know that I'm up, and I have to go

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<v Speaker 2>to work. I really do think this is the reason

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<v Speaker 2>I still have a job. Yeah, some sort of physical

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<v Speaker 2>activity like that would do it.

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<v Speaker 3>There was a sleep highgiene article in the New York

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<v Speaker 3>Times a couple of weeks ago, like this is everything

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<v Speaker 3>we now know about sleep, And one of the number

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<v Speaker 3>one things they said for good sleep is to go

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<v Speaker 3>to bed and get up at the same time every day. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>and I've never done that. I don't do it on

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<v Speaker 3>a Monday through Friday basis, let alone on the weekends.

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<v Speaker 3>But they said that is the best thing you can

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<v Speaker 3>do for your sleep, is to train your body same

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<v Speaker 3>time every day. My dad's always done that. He's the

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<v Speaker 3>opposite of me. He's always gone to bed like nine thirty.

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<v Speaker 3>He's asleep, and he gets up at four thirty or whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I'm practically religious about it all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Through the years, I've noticed that if you're like crazy

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<v Speaker 2>short out in sleep, it doesn't affect you much.

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<v Speaker 1>Me.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm psychotic, so I don't like the feeling of being

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<v Speaker 2>sleep deprived. It's so miserable. That's part of the reason

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<v Speaker 2>life I ever. I get to ten fifteen, I'm like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm going to bed.

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<v Speaker 3>Good en If I've ever not been sleep deprived, so

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what that would feel like.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's a blast.

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<v Speaker 3>I push myself really hard on that, which will kill

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<v Speaker 3>me early, no doubt about it. Probably the most unhealthy

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<v Speaker 3>thing I do.

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<v Speaker 2>Jack, there's no alarm clock in the grave, he says,

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<v Speaker 2>trying to somehow tie that dark thing together with the theme, how.

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<v Speaker 1>Do I do?

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<v Speaker 4>Nailed it?

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<v Speaker 1>How's this for an idea for an alarm clock?

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<v Speaker 2>You hire somebody with an ice bucket and at three

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<v Speaker 2>am they just dumped that water crap.

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<v Speaker 3>I probably would have a heart attack on that.

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<v Speaker 4>I would haul off and punch that person.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh yeah, I would beat them hard, bulkhep assault charge,

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<v Speaker 2>no holds barred.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, but you'd be awake. Yes, you know what You're right, Michael, Well.

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<v Speaker 4>I guess that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>You're losing an eye, but I'm awake.