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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: It is Monday, June eighth, twenty twenty, and it is time,

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Speaker 2: Donks for Morning Combat. Welcome everyone. My name is Luke Thomas.

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Speaker 2: I am one half of your hosting duo. I am

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Speaker 2: joined by the gentleman on the other side of your screen.

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Speaker 2: He's the peanut butter to my jelly. He's the conspiracy

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Speaker 2: to my theory. We know CBS Sports. It's the one

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Speaker 3: Hi, Brian, Yes, Yes, Luke fired the heck up this week. Okay, brother,

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Speaker 3: all right? Not just UFC two point fifty giving us

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Speaker 3: a lot to talk about. Plus you know, some future

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Speaker 2: By you know what? This has been a cause that

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Speaker 2: so it is in the history books. UFC two fifty

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Speaker 2: In your main event, Amanda Nunez, we want to say,

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Speaker 3: This time it was oh, the quarantine, the ankle injury,

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Speaker 3: Who's next? What's next? Is there anyone next? I still

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Speaker 3: She brings lengths, she brings side, she brings certain things

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Speaker 3: But outside of Chef Tenko, there's no one that can

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Speaker 3: because that would be the biggest fight of Valentina's career,

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Speaker 3: Which makes me ask you this, Luke, With all those

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Speaker 2: Well, I thought for sure there was at least a

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Speaker 2: What did we learn about this version of Cody Garbrandt.

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Speaker 3: Well, we learned that he overcame a horrific hair knight.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you want to talk about a redemption. Wow,

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Speaker 2: Not only does he have this sort of new system

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Speaker 3: And look, this will serve as a sort of a

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Speaker 2: Number one, he is so obviously your top contender. I

426
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:44,760
Speaker 2: know Cody Garbrent is back, and he's back in a

427
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,199
Speaker 2: big way. And if I'm Cody, I'm staying healthy, I'm

428
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,359
Speaker 2: staying ready because you never know what could happen, but

429
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,119
Speaker 2: al Jamaine Sterling is on a five fight win streak

430
00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,280
Speaker 2: against very top contenders, including this last one Corey Sandhagen,

431
00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: And what he showed was, in terms of his fight skills,

432
00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 2: there was nothing really exactly new here. I mean, we

433
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 2: knew he could find the back, we knew he's deadly

434
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,600
Speaker 2: as a finisher, we know he's very very strong. But

435
00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,240
Speaker 2: what it just showed to me was sometimes you get

436
00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,480
Speaker 2: these guys BC and they have a lot of promise

437
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: and a lot of hype when they come into the UFC,

438
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:20,439
Speaker 2: but their promise and their hype isn't quite ready for

439
00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 2: the reality of things yet. And he had good wins,

440
00:21:22,520 --> 00:21:24,240
Speaker 2: to be clear, but you know, he had a few

441
00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 2: stumbles along the way. Not everyone has a John Jones

442
00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,440
Speaker 2: like run. Not everyone has, you know, Anderson Silva coming

443
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 2: over and beating Leeban and beating Franklin and all these

444
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,679
Speaker 2: and Louter and all these guys. Some people have to

445
00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 2: figure it out a little bit differently. But boy has

446
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:42,600
Speaker 2: he done that. Wow, he understands himself. He knows how

447
00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,280
Speaker 2: to win, he knows what works for him. He knows

448
00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:46,919
Speaker 2: if he has to stand he can do that. If

449
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 2: he wants to take it to the ground. He can

450
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 2: do that. He had exactly the right game plan. I thought,

451
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 2: take it to Corey early, use your grappling and strength advantage.

452
00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:58,159
Speaker 2: And my goodness, that was such an application of force

453
00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: and skill and tenacity. And the last thing I'd say

454
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,159
Speaker 2: about a BC is did you see the look on

455
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,320
Speaker 2: his face after he won? Right? It was not. It

456
00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,479
Speaker 2: wasn't surprised exactly, but it was the fulfillment of something

457
00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:12,840
Speaker 2: that he was telling himself was true and telling himself

458
00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 2: and he was waiting for real proof in the real world,

459
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,480
Speaker 2: and then he made it. And it was so satisfying

460
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 2: because you could tell there was a little bit of

461
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 2: joy mixed with a little bit of pain, the pain

462
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:26,200
Speaker 2: of some of the setbacks of some of the hard lessons.

463
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 2: But he has grown into something magisterial. He is your

464
00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,600
Speaker 2: top contender. That guy is a is a winner and

465
00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 2: not born but proven through hard work, talent and development.

466
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 2: What a guy.

467
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:41,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, you mentioned joy and pain. How about a little

468
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 3: sunshine and rain? Pump it up? Pump it up? Statement

469
00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,440
Speaker 3: made here, Luke. I mean it's almost as if Al

470
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 3: Joe like read all the clippings in the headlines knew

471
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,760
Speaker 3: that this division was about to burst. Vacant title at Steak,

472
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: they didn't call him for the vacant title bout. And

473
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 3: even though this was like a pick'em fie and you

474
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 3: and I you know, were very honest about that. Coming in,

475
00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 3: I think a lot of us started to go, we

476
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 3: kind of feel like, we know Al Joe Ceiling really

477
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,120
Speaker 3: good fighter, but how about this shiny new toy, Corey Sanagan,

478
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 3: who may be the dark horse of the division, He

479
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 3: may have the brighter long term potential. And as we

480
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,919
Speaker 3: mentioned Garb, Brant Beck and all these other guys, well, no,

481
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,479
Speaker 3: Al Joe on an already busy night was like, uh,

482
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 3: I got next, I got now, I got it all.

483
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 3: I live for the funk. I die for the funk.

484
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,840
Speaker 3: And that's about as impressive of a performance as you

485
00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 3: possibly could see. Luke. You never you never would have

486
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 3: guessed he would have made it look that explosively easy

487
00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 3: with force against a guy who had never been handled

488
00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 3: like that in sant Agan. I have so much respect

489
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 3: for this performance. It was like watching somebody, you know.

490
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,239
Speaker 3: It's kind of like Gilbert Burns a couple of weeks back, right,

491
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 3: it was watching somebody leap through your television screen and

492
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,760
Speaker 3: get to that next level right before your eyes. It

493
00:23:53,840 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 3: only makes this this division way more fun because Luke,

494
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: I have no idea twelve months from now who's going

495
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,680
Speaker 3: to be your one hundred and thirty five pound champion.

496
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,159
Speaker 3: The only thing I think I do know is that

497
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,920
Speaker 3: this win should be enough to get him in a

498
00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:10,399
Speaker 3: title fight right now. Now? Is it good enough that

499
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 3: Dana basically said he'll fight the winner of the vacant

500
00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:16,879
Speaker 3: title about? Sure? But we never really loved Jose Aldo

501
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: in that spot. They went back to the well a

502
00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 3: second time, and now these young names who hadn't quite

503
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,760
Speaker 3: leaped are leaping in a big way. I don't think

504
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 3: it's wrong to just say we screwed up. Sorry, Jose Aldo.

505
00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 3: You know you're gonna go fight another legend or another

506
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,639
Speaker 3: name here. Peyotor Jan versus al Jamaine Sterling might be

507
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 3: the fight and you're gonna make a star out of

508
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,440
Speaker 3: whoever wins that. So why are we wasting our time?

509
00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 2: Luke?

510
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 3: Put Al Joe in the fight right now?

511
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 2: Do it?

512
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,199
Speaker 3: Paul Sean Shelby, do it? Okay?

513
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 2: Would you put Cody Garbrant and Jose Aldo together? Where

514
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,040
Speaker 2: would Cody go from here.

515
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 3: You know, Cody deserves a huge fight. I don't think

516
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 3: you got to put a you know, interim title or

517
00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 3: anything at stake. But if you pulled Jose Aldo out

518
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 3: of there and you put Cody with him in a

519
00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 3: giant you know, live on ESPN main event or a

520
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 3: pay per view comine for good money, that's a great,

521
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,199
Speaker 3: you know victory. I do not think Cody secured a

522
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,120
Speaker 3: title shot with that win, but the way that al

523
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,600
Speaker 3: Jo did it and his marketing potential long term and

524
00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 3: his growth as a fighter. Seriously, Luke, how could you

525
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 3: not right now, I'll be like, we affed up al

526
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:24,000
Speaker 3: Joe's in.

527
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 2: You know, it's funny. You know, this reminded me of

528
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,439
Speaker 2: a very different fight, and I do think that. You know,

529
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: here's the thing about Corey Sandhagen. He lost quickly and

530
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: viciously and by the hands of al Ja man Sterling authoritatively.

531
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,040
Speaker 2: But I'm not ready to give up on that kid either.

532
00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,040
Speaker 2: He's still young, he's still got some lessons. He actually

533
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 2: still could be the dark horse for the Bantawey division,

534
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,120
Speaker 2: just not right now. There's still some things obviously he's

535
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 2: gonna have to work out and get better at it, and

536
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:51,159
Speaker 2: I think he will. He's got the time and the

537
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: talent and the team around him to get there. But

538
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 2: when I think about al Ja man Sterling and this moment,

539
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,239
Speaker 2: it reminds me of sometimes in the UFCBC you know this,

540
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: you'll see that. This is why I like seeing top

541
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: contender fight top contender. Sometimes the UFC makes them and

542
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: sometimes they don't, depend on how marketable they are and

543
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:11,560
Speaker 2: what they're trying to do with the champion and block.

544
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: But I remember distinctly when Saint Pierre fought Frank Trigg,

545
00:26:15,720 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: and it was one of these moments where it was like,

546
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,040
Speaker 2: Saint Pierre's this up and coming guy and he looks

547
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: like the next big thing. But Frank Trigg was, I think,

548
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 2: on a win streak at that point, and he had

549
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,399
Speaker 2: given very good fighters the business. He'd given Dennis Holman

550
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 2: the business. Hanato Varissimo he clubbed him, and you're like,

551
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: I just don't know what's gonna happen here, and then

552
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,639
Speaker 2: Saint Pierre went in there and absolutely crushed him, and

553
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,680
Speaker 2: I was like, well, that's your guy. There's this moment

554
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 2: in time where it looks like it's a Pickham fight

555
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,359
Speaker 2: and one of these contenders says no syrup, No it

556
00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:46,080
Speaker 2: is not not today, and that.

557
00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: Was out Jimy, Ryan Bateruke.

558
00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,879
Speaker 2: Similar exactly exactly the same kind of thing where you

559
00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: think it's pretty even and it's just not so again.

560
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,240
Speaker 2: Look all Ryan Batter, all the success he had. I think,

561
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: you know, corys Saan Hag a whole and potentially a

562
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,680
Speaker 2: whole lot more. But I just love these top contender

563
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 2: versus top contender fights sometimes BC. I know the UFC

564
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 2: is reluctant to make him on occasion, but when you do,

565
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: you get magic like this, you get sorting like this,

566
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 2: you get cleanliness like this. These are some of my

567
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 2: favorite MMA memories, to be honest with you.

568
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 3: Love it, Love it so much, love it. Love the

569
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 3: bandam Weights, the one thirty five ers. Yeah, I got

570
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 3: nothing else for you. Look, can you take us to

571
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: the next level?

572
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 2: Please? I think I have to. Now we'll stay right

573
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:31,520
Speaker 2: on there with Banswait, what a showcase of this division? Huh.

574
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,960
Speaker 2: UFC should think about doing these with these, these bigger

575
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:40,160
Speaker 2: divisions more often. The Sugar Show folks, Wow, we all

576
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,360
Speaker 2: kind of felt like this was a fight he could

577
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: win and probably would. Did you think he was gonna

578
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: look that good against Eddie Winland. You knew it was possible,

579
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:54,760
Speaker 2: But again he just keeps rising to the occasion. Sean O'Malley, BC,

580
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: I think you would agree is the future of the

581
00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 2: UFC he dispatches Eddie Winland with. I think he took

582
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 2: one decent to good punch from Wineland and then viciously

583
00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 2: one punch kote him. BC, you gotta talk to me

584
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 2: about this. What do you think about what he did

585
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 2: and what does this tell us about his upside?

586
00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:16,000
Speaker 3: I think you nailed it. You didn't say this is

587
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 3: the future of the bantamweight division, which he very well

588
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,400
Speaker 3: may be. You said future of the sport. And that's

589
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 3: not overdoing it. Like there's very few guys that understand

590
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 3: their value and their marketing ability and available and willing,

591
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 3: you know, to connect with fans, and certainly Sugar Shan

592
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,439
Speaker 3: O'Malley had that flashiness early. He's the weed guy. He's

593
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 3: the next nad As we had that period of his

594
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 3: life to see him bounce back so well from the

595
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,480
Speaker 3: two years off with the U side of suspension and

596
00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 3: put together two demonstrative, devastating wins and do it with

597
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: such suave and swagger and flash, the colored hair, the

598
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 3: walk off attitude afterwards, the pay me now, not like, hey,

599
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: this is my moment. Like a lot of the big

600
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: name fighters, which we'll get to in terms of making

601
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 3: a power play, He's just like, I'm legitimately on a

602
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 3: rookie contract here and I'm smoking fools. The reason why

603
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 3: you could argue this was as impressive or more than

604
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 3: what al Joe and Cody Garbrandt did for their own

605
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 3: specific career arcs is because if you're a casual fan

606
00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:18,000
Speaker 3: buying this pay per view, which I have to believe

607
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 3: UFC is able to benefit from a percentage of that

608
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 3: right now with nothing else going on. I mean, that's

609
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 3: the guy you're talking about at the end, the rainbow

610
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 3: haired guy who knocked that dude out. I mean, I

611
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 3: thought Joe Rogan went overboard in kind of putting this

612
00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 3: in the category of maybe the greatest knockout of all time.

613
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 3: It's an incredible knockout, but like Cody Garbrandt's was a

614
00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,800
Speaker 3: lot better than this one great knockout. But it's like

615
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 3: he did enough on this night, meaning Sean O'Malley to

616
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,120
Speaker 3: tell you that wherever he's going from now on you

617
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 3: need to follow him, you need to pay to see him,

618
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: whatever it takes. I hope he gets what he deserves. Luke,

619
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 3: it's great, great, great when you see somebody just like

620
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: Cody in that spot for redemption, just like al Joe,

621
00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 3: with a chance to make that leap to the top,

622
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 3: somebody come through an opportunity with flying callers and just

623
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 3: smash it. This was a showcase white it was. It

624
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 3: really was. I'm sorry it was yo. Chase Hooper had

625
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 3: the same opportunity in a way failed miserably. Jon o'mellley

626
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 3: hit a freaking grand slam.

627
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:16,719
Speaker 2: He really did, you know? I had someone ask me

628
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 2: yesterday why do people like Sean Omalley? Not that they

629
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,120
Speaker 2: were skeptical, but they were just trying to understand what

630
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: the mechanics were. And I was like, well, let's think

631
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,760
Speaker 2: about it. One he's young, so he identifies with a

632
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 2: younger demographic. Two he's got his own personality. Three the

633
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 2: whole weed thing right, it doesn't hurt. Four he can

634
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,959
Speaker 2: fight his ass off. But here's you kind of mentioned it.

635
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: Here's the last part that sort of binds it all together.

636
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 2: He isss effortlessly cool. He doesn't have to try it

637
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 2: comes completely natural. It's not an act. It's not a

638
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 2: thing that he has to think about. He's just himself

639
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,719
Speaker 2: and people like you and I can admire his abilities.

640
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: And then I'm sure you've interviewed him before. I mean,

641
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,959
Speaker 2: he's a really nice person. There's not a whole lot

642
00:30:59,960 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 2: of like, genuinely nice people in MMA. He is certainly

643
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 2: one of them. And he's smart, he understands his value,

644
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 2: he's got all He just checks all the boxes about

645
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:14,479
Speaker 2: what you want out of a top prospect in this division.

646
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 2: And now, by the way, we should sort of call

647
00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:18,040
Speaker 2: him what he is, not a top contender, but a

648
00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: rising contender. I think with this performance he'll jump into

649
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:25,720
Speaker 2: the top fifteen. And he just gets it. He made

650
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: this fight. I had him on my show. I was like,

651
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: how did this fight come about? He was just looking

652
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: down the list about who he might be available and

653
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 2: interesting found Winland call Shawn Shelby said how about this?

654
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 2: They thought about it, called him back and said okay,

655
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 2: and that was the fight. And then so he just

656
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 2: sort of understands how to make his own future, how

657
00:31:40,400 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: to make his own reality. The last thing I'll say is,

658
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 2: I'm not the most pro usidic guy in the world BC.

659
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,000
Speaker 2: I think you know that, and I don't. I mean,

660
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: there's just no evidence that his suspension was in any

661
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: way scientifically valid. They railroad of this kid. But here's

662
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,000
Speaker 2: the thing. I'll say. You mentioned Chase Hooper. I mean,

663
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 2: Chase Hooper obviously has a lot of ability on on

664
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: the ground and is durable, and the kid has a just,

665
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: you know, an absolute ton of heart. I give him credit,

666
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 2: but I just don't know if he's ready for this level,

667
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: which is to say he can't get wins at this level,

668
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,200
Speaker 2: but I don't know if he's ready to thrive at

669
00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 2: this level. And I think if there's a little bit

670
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 2: of pumping the brakes and he can develop physically and

671
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: in some of his other skill sets, I do think

672
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 2: he can eventually thrive at this level. The two years off, again,

673
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: I don't want to call it good for him, but

674
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,680
Speaker 2: I'll say this, he made the most of it. He

675
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 2: maximized it. He didn't take any breaks, he didn't rest,

676
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 2: he just got way better and in his twenties for

677
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: two years. I'm sure he took bumps, some bruises in

678
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: the GYMBC, but he didn't get lit up with some

679
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 2: bad fight in the octagon. He saved himself and now

680
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 2: he is screaming for a more challenging fight. He's earned

681
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 2: it and he's ready for it.

682
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, whether he deserved the suspension or not, he rehabilitated himself.

683
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:54,480
Speaker 2: Right.

684
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: It's like you went to jail and you read a

685
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 3: lot of great books and you came out with a

686
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: you know, woodworking certificate. I mean, like he figured it out.

687
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 3: And I don't want to crap on Chase Hooper, by

688
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 3: the way. In fact, I I thought that was one

689
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 3: of the you know, bigger betting options because we'd seen

690
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 3: Bruce Leroy be so inconsistent that I'm like, if Chase

691
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 3: Hooper is the real deal, he's got a chance to

692
00:33:11,920 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 3: show you with a bang. He did show us toughness.

693
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 3: It's too early, though, And I think that Joe Rogan

694
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: was as honest on this broadcast in a few different

695
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 3: categories as we've heard in a while. He was honest

696
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: and saying, maybe this guy shouldn't be here, you know,

697
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 3: maybe he should be somewhere in the you know, minor leagues,

698
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 3: if you will, gaining the experience. They pushed they pushed

699
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: him ahead, you know, they sent out the jar of

700
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,880
Speaker 3: Eminem's with his face on. It was cool. It led

701
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 3: us to believe that maybe he was better than he was,

702
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 3: and hopefully he can, you know, rebound from this loss

703
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 3: and get what he's supposed to get out of it.

704
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 3: But you know, back to Sean o'melly, it's like the

705
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 3: comfortability in the spotlight, the ease in which he's authentic

706
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 3: that you mentioned, but the ease in which he finishes

707
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: dudes like it's effortless. You can tell that there's you know,

708
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 3: some some everything about him is real and that's great.

709
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 3: So let's let's keep watching him this rise, Luke, one

710
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 3: year from now, he's you know, he's gonna be in

711
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 3: a title fight, and if he's not, then something failed, right,

712
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 3: So you know, the marketing, promotion plan or him as

713
00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: a person failed because he could be your champion a

714
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 3: year from now, without question.

715
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: Pittch you back to you in thinking about a potential

716
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,959
Speaker 2: next fight, my thought was, BC, what about putting him

717
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: against someone eleven to fifteen in the rankings, that's where

718
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 2: I think he's gonna end up. Probably, What do you

719
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:26,880
Speaker 2: think about putting someone there? So let me read that

720
00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,200
Speaker 2: to you to be Cruz Stamen Dotson song Anong, Marlon

721
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 2: vera Rob font in that area.

722
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 3: What do you think, I mean, you'd probably it's probably

723
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 3: gonna end up being somebody like a Dodson who's got

724
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 3: a little bit of a name left. What is going

725
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 3: in the other direction. Then then propping him up against

726
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 3: a guy with a veteran with a legit name like

727
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:48,600
Speaker 3: a Cruise or a Faber. And I think you'd only

728
00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:50,319
Speaker 3: do that if you're gonna make him if your next

729
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,000
Speaker 3: step in his promotional marketable marketing plan is to like, hey,

730
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 3: we got something here, let's put him in the main event.

731
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 3: If he's going to be in the main event of

732
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 3: you know, UFC Fight Night or be the again the

733
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,520
Speaker 3: co main on pay per view, you might see him

734
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 3: with a Faber type and it might be worthy.

735
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I'll just say this, I think Sterling early thirties,

736
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:11,600
Speaker 2: Cody twenty eight. He'll be twenty nine next month, O'Malley,

737
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 2: is what twenty five or something? I mean, not only

738
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: are these guys good, and there's so many of them.

739
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 2: I think Cory san Thakan too, Let's not forget about him.

740
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 2: It wasn't his day on Saturday, but he will have

741
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:23,840
Speaker 2: a day in the future. I think he's in his

742
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 2: mid to late twenties as well. It's a young division,

743
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,239
Speaker 2: it's talented. All these guys are different. They can do

744
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,799
Speaker 2: so many things, yet they have their own identities. Boy,

745
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 2: you mentioned it an embarrassment of riches bansamweight is awesome

746
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: right now, So that texs us to our fifth point

747
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 2: of the show here. I mean, honestly, BC, this could

748
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: have been the way we started the show. To be

749
00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 2: perfectly honest with you.

750
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,280
Speaker 3: It's the biggest story of the week, Luke.

751
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 2: It really is. It certainly is what we wanted to

752
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 2: give UFC two to fifty. It's due, but this is enormous.

753
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 2: So Henry Sahudo retiring it seems like because he couldn't

754
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 2: get the fights with the money that he wanted. John

755
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 2: Jones saying peace out. Let me know when you want

756
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 2: to pay me, because if you don't, I'm not going

757
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: to be here. JORGEI. Masvidal now joins that chorus, by

758
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 2: the way, and got to Twitter early and often with

759
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,799
Speaker 2: not just a claim that he wanted more, but with

760
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: the citation of figures that have not been widely reported

761
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: in MMA media about what fighters actually get. Now we'll

762
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 2: get to the Connor angle in just a second, because hello,

763
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 2: he retired apparently over the weekend as well. But first

764
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 2: things first, bce Jorgey Masvidal feuding with the UFC. He adds,

765
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 2: as we mentioned to all these other names, Sean Omalley

766
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 2: about us, by the way, saying he wanted a new

767
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 2: deal as well. I think he'll probably get one. But

768
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: what do you make of Masvidal versus UFC right now?

769
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: Well, you know, as much as you want to separate

770
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,680
Speaker 3: the two topics, I think Connor is a part of

771
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 3: this advancement in lineage. And by the way, also check

772
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:52,799
Speaker 3: out Gray Maydard's Twitter feed for some honest breakdowns of

773
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: the money he made in his difficulties financially in that

774
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:57,880
Speaker 3: run he had. What do I make of it? We

775
00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 3: said last week in the week before of the John

776
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 3: Jones versus Dana beef about the Anganu fight and about

777
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 3: being paid for super fights, that it's maybe right message,

778
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 3: wrong time, but that it's only gonna lead to something

779
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 3: and be a tipping point if more fighters follow him,

780
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: if more become a unified front. And I'm not saying

781
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:20,239
Speaker 3: necessarily union yes, or let's lock out, you know, but

782
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 3: that basically and whether this was a you know, back

783
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 3: door managers get together and plan this out, or whether

784
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 3: this was individually one after another realizing their lot and

785
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 3: becoming opportunistic. At the same time, they have sent a

786
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 3: large message that says, the way things are structured now,

787
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 3: it's not going to work moving forward. And Dana's response

788
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: to this late Saturday at the press conference was very interesting.

789
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 3: You got the the hard ass Dana immediate comments, and

790
00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: then you got some sort of like vulnerable stuff from

791
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,840
Speaker 3: data that we don't normally get, Like, hey, guys, like

792
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 3: I'm trying to keep this thing together. I get it,

793
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,840
Speaker 3: but like, what do you want me to do the future?

794
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 3: Luke is gonna be really this almost doesn't affect the

795
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 3: right now. And the reality of that is like Mosvidal

796
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 3: wasn't gonna fight anyway, Connor's not gonna fight right now anyway.

797
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,439
Speaker 3: John Jones is not gonna fight anyway. Without a live gate,

798
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 3: these guys can't get paid the regular rate. We know this.

799
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 3: Connor drew an eleven million dollar live gate in January.

800
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 3: Right when you take that money off the board, you

801
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 3: can't pay him whatever he's used to. So for Mosvedal

802
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 3: to reveal that he was offered half of what he

803
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 3: made against Nate Diz for the BMF title to fight

804
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 3: for the damn real title against Usman. He's not gonna

805
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,360
Speaker 3: fight anyway. What I'm looking forward to seeing, Luke, is

806
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 3: how serious these guys are at digging in and making

807
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 3: this a real thing and coming together. Because when the

808
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 3: live gates come back and the ability to make money

809
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 3: comes back, will everyone jump back in because a they

810
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,880
Speaker 3: need the money by then, Will everybody jump back in

811
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,799
Speaker 3: for just a little bit more than they're used to

812
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,600
Speaker 3: because it's better than what they had, Or will they

813
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 3: actually get to a point where they're lock arms and

814
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 3: say we need we need to lock out now for

815
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 3: the future. If that doesn't happen, Luke, then I think

816
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 3: this is just a lot of, you know, noises in

817
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 3: a vacuum. It's positive noises like this needs like people

818
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,840
Speaker 3: need to know this. People need to know that the

819
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 3: UFC reportedly only pays sixteen percent of their total revenue

820
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 3: to the fighters, compared to fifty percent in big team sports.

821
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 3: People need to know that there's no fighter union, that

822
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 3: the structure is tilted against fighters controlling their own destiny. Right,

823
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:31,720
Speaker 3: you're an independent contractor but you have an exclusive deal

824
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: and UFC has ways to add on to that deal,

825
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 3: and that we're now finding out when fighters go public.

826
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: But it's all gonna matter when that money is back,

827
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,120
Speaker 3: will people take it or will they fight for it?

828
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 3: Because Luke, there's a larger conversation to have about the

829
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,399
Speaker 3: future and it could be a dark one. And I'm

830
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 3: not saying dark just for the standpoint that we could

831
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,720
Speaker 3: see like a lockout or something. What makes the UFC

832
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 3: so great for fans that they have control over everything.

833
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 3: They're not boxing, they're the manager, the promoter, that they're

834
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:06,359
Speaker 3: everything in one in a lot of ways, right, they

835
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 3: make the best fight the best because they kind of

836
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 3: have to financially to get to where they want to be.

837
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: We want the fighters, especially with the brain trauma they

838
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 3: take on, especially since so many of them can barely

839
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 3: afford to do a full time training git. We want

840
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,359
Speaker 3: them to be taken care of because they deserve it.

841
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: But what that future will look like, it may not

842
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,719
Speaker 3: be the UFC that we're used to, Luke, and I

843
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: think we have to understand that we have the potential

844
00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,600
Speaker 3: to go through some very needed but very legitimate growing

845
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 3: pains where you may see boxing style matchmaking. If that's

846
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 3: what it takes to put these guys on the card

847
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,920
Speaker 3: and pay them what they feel they deserve, the glory

848
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 3: days of the best fighting the best every single time,

849
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 3: that may be, you know, something like a casualty that

850
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: has to happen for the fighters to get what they deserve.

851
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what the future is going to bring, Luke.

852
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 3: I just know that UFC can afford to pay right now.

853
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: And you know what will the fighters do when UFC

854
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 3: can Will they cross the pick, want to take the money,

855
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 3: or when they stand back and say, no, we deserve more,

856
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 3: let's fight for it.

857
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 2: You raise I think as someone who's covered boxing for

858
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: a long time and understands where they are, where we

859
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,720
Speaker 2: are here in MMA, and why things might be trending

860
00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:16,279
Speaker 2: in that direction and what that all looks like. I

861
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 2: think I take that very seriously. BC. I think you're

862
00:41:18,560 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 2: probably onto something now. It's a lot of that is unknowable.

863
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 2: We don't really know exactly how it's going to end up.

864
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 2: But that could that be one permutation, certainly, I think so.

865
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: And we need to answer a question here like why

866
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 2: should the fighters make more? What is their case? Well,

867
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 2: as you indicated. The court documents, which we I tweeted

868
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: out extensively over the weekend, you can read them for yourselves.

869
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: They reveal that basically around eighteen percent or so is

870
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,040
Speaker 2: what fighters make year over year. So you could say, well,

871
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 2: all the other professional leagues they make around fifty, but

872
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,680
Speaker 2: I think it's actually more than that, right. It's not

873
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 2: not that they should make more than fifty. But my

874
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: sense is, why do you want to pay fighters? You

875
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,799
Speaker 2: know their share? So as you as you call it,

876
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,439
Speaker 2: I think you have an ethical obligation to do it,

877
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: especially as a fan and a media member. I think

878
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:06,439
Speaker 2: it's wrong for me as a media member to look

879
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:09,440
Speaker 2: at what they sacrifice on the altar of athletic glory,

880
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 2: know what they generate from a revenue standpoint, and you

881
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 2: can look at the math here something that is called

882
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 2: marginal revenue product, like what do they specifically bring as headliners,

883
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,320
Speaker 2: and then deny them that. I think that's wrong. I

884
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 2: think it's wrong. I'm not saying the UFCS are, you know,

885
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: some criminal enterprise. That's not what I'm arguing. Their business.

886
00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: They're gonna do its best with their bottom line. But

887
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,440
Speaker 2: I just think if you're if you care about fighters

888
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:32,439
Speaker 2: the way you say you do, and you care about

889
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 2: this sport the way you say you do. You have

890
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: to honor what they bring as revenue generators, and you

891
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 2: have to honor that sacrifice. And so folks might be asking,

892
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 2: you know why now it's the middle of a pandemic,

893
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,440
Speaker 2: and it could get worse, as Dana said, and who

894
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 2: knows when this is all going to end, and blah

895
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 2: blah blah. To me, it makes sense. B see, the

896
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 2: UFC is operating better than virtually any other major sports league.

897
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 2: Pardon me, but the difference, it seems to me, is

898
00:43:01,160 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 2: that everybody is kind of wounded by the pandemic. Everyone

899
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,320
Speaker 2: kind of recognizes the institutional power of every sports organization

900
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 2: has been substantially reduced. And I think that is detected

901
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: by these elite stars. They're looking at this and they're saying, Aha,

902
00:43:17,800 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 2: the UFC probably needs us now more than ever now.

903
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: There's reason to think that feeling is a little bit

904
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 2: overstated due to the contractual, guaranteed revenue that the UFC

905
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 2: brings in these days. But at the same time, I

906
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 2: sort of understand there's never a good time to ask

907
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,760
Speaker 2: for a raise. How many times do we see before

908
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 2: every single NFL season, so and so is upset. Aaron

909
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:44,200
Speaker 2: Donald wants a new deal, and Michael Thomas wants a raise,

910
00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:46,279
Speaker 2: and this guy wants to be the greatest quarterback, and

911
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 2: they might be in the middle of their rookie deals.

912
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,440
Speaker 2: In certain cases, Aaron Donald was, I believe before he

913
00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: got a new deal at the beginning of one or

914
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 2: two seasons ago. So what does it do. The media

915
00:43:55,800 --> 00:43:58,319
Speaker 2: beats them up, the fans beat them up. There's never

916
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: a good time. I'm not calling for a lot out

917
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 2: because I think that would probably be pretty bad for

918
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 2: all the parties involved. But I just feel like you

919
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 2: have the last thing I'll say on this BC, I'll

920
00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 2: throw it back to you, which is I just think

921
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: you have to have a look in the mirror and

922
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,840
Speaker 2: you have to say to yourself, is it right to

923
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: deny people what they have earned, especially when what they

924
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: do when they earn is in the case of Michael Bisping,

925
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 2: lose an eye or you know, pretty close or brain damage.

926
00:44:19,360 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 2: I mean they get in brain damage, you have to

927
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:22,720
Speaker 2: pay them what they've earned.

928
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 3: Or when you're Jessica and Drage, what like two fights ago,

929
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,040
Speaker 3: selling off your equipment because you need to pay for

930
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,000
Speaker 3: training camp. I mean, there's been some crazy stories of

931
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 3: big name fighters in that spot. It's so interesting, like

932
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:39,440
Speaker 3: this could go somewhere, it could go nowhere, and certainly,

933
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:41,680
Speaker 3: you know, Danny did identify one thing. You know, you

934
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: don't have to fight right now if you don't want to.

935
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 3: So there are fighters who will benefit. There are opportunists

936
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 3: right justin Gatchee took that opportunity against Tony on short notice,

937
00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 3: and look where he is. He's gonna fight Habib. So

938
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 3: you're gonna see people that are just gonna that aren't

939
00:44:54,719 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 3: making money anyway, that are gonna get themselves into main

940
00:44:57,040 --> 00:45:00,240
Speaker 3: events and maybe able to make themselves stars. But uh,

941
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 3: long term, man, you know there's a reason in boxing

942
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 3: why if you're gonna pay somebody like a Mayweather guaranteed

943
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 3: thirty million, the undercard's gonna be crap, right, or if

944
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 3: you're gonna like, there's a reason why that happens. The

945
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 3: big fights only tend to happen when both reach a

946
00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: certain marketable level and they guarantee, I mean the promoters

947
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: that they can get their money back by putting that on.

948
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: I hope we don't get there in UFC, but some

949
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: of that feels inevitable until UFC figures out how to

950
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 3: redo their financial structure. And I think even more than ever,

951
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: the whole idea of the debt that Endeavor took on

952
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 3: to purchase them for four point two billion a couple

953
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 3: of years back. What that means moving forward is gonna

954
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,240
Speaker 3: be interesting. Dana can deny and say it has nothing

955
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,360
Speaker 3: to do with them, but it seems like it does.

956
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's one thing for the fighters to say, hey, UFC,

957
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 3: you're only paying us sixteen percent, like we want fifty percent.

958
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:48,359
Speaker 3: But I don't think the UFC is financially set up

959
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:51,360
Speaker 3: to pay them fifty percent. So how is UFC gonna

960
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 3: slow their further expansion to keep their employees happy? And

961
00:45:56,719 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 3: it's good, It's it's wild, you know, it's just crazy

962
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 3: that a week ago where like, unless more guys speak out,

963
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 3: nothing can happen. Well, you couldn't ask for, you know,

964
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,080
Speaker 3: four or five more famous people to speak out. Right now.

965
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 3: The Ish be hitting the fan now, Luke, And while

966
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,719
Speaker 3: Dana may have a grace period during the quarantine to

967
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: kind of just be like, sorry, guys, you know I'm

968
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 3: doing my best eventually, right February first, twenty twenty one, Luke,

969
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,400
Speaker 3: when those arenas are packed again, per our debate and

970
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: argument we have with each other, then you're gonna find out.

971
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:29,400
Speaker 3: We're gonna find out what happens.

972
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:30,879
Speaker 2: Very The last thing on this is what I would

973
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 2: say is again, I don't really know how this is

974
00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 2: gonna play out. I don't think they'll ever get I

975
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 2: don't think the fighters will ever get fifty unless the

976
00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: ALI Act passes, which you know it is probably dead

977
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 2: in the water for the time being. A union would

978
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 2: not guarantee them fifty, not on everything. I think you're

979
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: probably closer to thirty five or so. But that would

980
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: be literally doubling everyone's salary, right, So it'd be, you know,

981
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:52,799
Speaker 2: a significant difference from where we are now. We haven't

982
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: even gotten to a little so let's quickly mention it

983
00:46:54,320 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 2: what we can bec Connor McGregor suggesting that he has

984
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,480
Speaker 2: retired now, I thought these were somewhat distinctive. He's not

985
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: so much complaining about pay. He's complaining about he wanted

986
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:07,000
Speaker 2: a certain set of indu it visual fights, neither of

987
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 2: which I particularly like. But it was the common thread

988
00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: between what mas Vitol is saying and what McGregor is

989
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: saying BC is control power. He's saying I gave these

990
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: suggestions it was an interim title fight with Gechee while

991
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 2: Kabebe gets ready, or the fight with Anderson Silva, and

992
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 2: they just poop pooted it. And his argument is they

993
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 2: just seem to say no merely as an exercise of power,

994
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 2: not because it's a good idea or a bad idea,

995
00:47:33,320 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 2: just so they can say we're up here and you're

996
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,880
Speaker 2: down there. What do you make of Connor McGregor's complaints.

997
00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 3: I think it was ten percent. Let me steal the

998
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 3: moment of UFC two fifty and make it about myself.

999
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,680
Speaker 3: You know, maybe five percent, a little bit extra whiskey

1000
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,080
Speaker 3: during that tweet. I don't know who knows. Maybe it

1001
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 3: was ten percent. Let me join in my fellow brethren,

1002
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 3: and let's take a stand for the sport. But I

1003
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: think it was at least, you know, forty percent of Hey,

1004
00:47:56,280 --> 00:47:58,320
Speaker 3: if everyone else is going to give themselves some leverage

1005
00:47:58,360 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 3: right now, let me take back a huge amount of

1006
00:48:00,200 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 3: that leverage because I'm the only guy that's had some lately,

1007
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 3: So let me do that. And I think the other

1008
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 3: sixty percent was what Dana said, and I think he's right.

1009
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,800
Speaker 3: There is no one to fight right now for Connor

1010
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 3: if he's not willing to take a pay cut, if

1011
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 3: UFC is not willing to make the creative matches he

1012
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 3: wants because they're too expensive, and because he was essentially

1013
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,080
Speaker 3: stiff armed by how things went in the lightweight division,

1014
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 3: how it played out. Kabib was supposed to face Tony

1015
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 3: right already so that we the winner could fight Connor. Well,

1016
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 3: you know, the need of an interim in between. That

1017
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 3: delayed things. So Connor wouldn't get the chance to fight

1018
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 3: that winner until you know, December at the earliest. So

1019
00:48:35,560 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 3: that's screwed up his timeline. If UFC isn't going to

1020
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 3: break the bank for him to fight Nat a third

1021
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 3: time or whatever, then he's just like, I'm done here

1022
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 3: f you guys. And that obviously makes his value larger

1023
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 3: when they come to him next time. It's not him

1024
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 3: coming to them, it's them coming to him and saying,

1025
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,080
Speaker 3: we'd love you to fight Habib. Can we do this?

1026
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 3: But one thing I don't think we mentioned enough. When

1027
00:48:57,280 --> 00:49:00,719
Speaker 3: we regurgitate all these financial facts, you KNOWFC gonna lose

1028
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 3: one hundred million in live gate this year. That ESPN

1029
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 3: pay per view deal really took some extra leverage from

1030
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 3: the fighters right when they you know, this pay per

1031
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 3: view on Saturday turned out to be magical is great,

1032
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 3: Everything was fantastic. It could have been a DoD where

1033
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 3: you look back and you go, oh yeah, newoness in

1034
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: the main event, you didn't really have anybody else that

1035
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 3: could sell it. Well, it doesn't matter because ESPN's giving

1036
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:23,760
Speaker 3: them that minimum amount, which is a lot of money.

1037
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:28,840
Speaker 3: Fighters ain't getting that, Luke, right, So it's really hard

1038
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 3: to take your to take the thing out and swing it. Luke.

1039
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's hard to do that

1040
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:34,919
Speaker 3: right now.

1041
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what that. I mean, what that

1042
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 2: last sentence means, but I'll say this. You know.

1043
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,879
Speaker 3: Oh look if you if you got a big let

1044
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: me search it.

1045
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 2: Right Listen, Missy Elliott, keep your hands to yourself. But

1046
00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 2: here's my point. Uh is a nineties counter? But wouldn't

1047
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 2: that be two thousands counter?

1048
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:54,560
Speaker 3: But O Jay, I mean Jay's you know, Jay's.

1049
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,360
Speaker 2: A nerd who wears white glasses. I mean, what do

1050
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,760
Speaker 2: you want from the guy? Listen?

1051
00:49:57,800 --> 00:49:59,960
Speaker 3: I follow Jay's dog on Instagram. Look, look where the

1052
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: quarantine has me right now. Okay, thank you.

1053
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: Here's my point about Connor a little bit on this.

1054
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 2: I don't love either of those fights because it's like

1055
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 2: the winner of Serrooni to me, doesn't get you the

1056
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:11,680
Speaker 2: title fight against Skatchee to me, and more would have

1057
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,000
Speaker 2: to be done. Granted, they're just doing title fights in

1058
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: whatever way now, so I can't argue that the hardest way,

1059
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 2: but I don't like it. And on this show I

1060
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,040
Speaker 2: was pretty clear I did not like to fight against Silva.

1061
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 2: But I'll say this, if you're a UFC and you

1062
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:25,680
Speaker 2: have a choice to make about what he's doing this

1063
00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: way and all the bad press that it brings, and

1064
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 2: they say they don't buckle to bad press, but the

1065
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,319
Speaker 2: bad press is right on Sports Center's doorstep. I mean,

1066
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 2: they had Masvidal on over the weekend. This is not

1067
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: going away anytime soon. I was on local radio this

1068
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 2: morning because they wanted to ask me about it, and

1069
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 2: they don't ever talk UFC. That was pretty rare and

1070
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 2: it was just about Connor and Masvidal. So if this

1071
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 2: kind thing continues, there's really kind of bad press. But

1072
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: the thing about Connor is if the goal is to

1073
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,759
Speaker 2: keep the guy in rotation and he wants to take

1074
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: a fight against Silva. I mean, it's kind of like

1075
00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,000
Speaker 2: we talked about with Scott Kocher for our show More

1076
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 2: Combat STRIKEE Force Classics when they made Hendo versus Fade

1077
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,520
Speaker 2: Or they had never really planned to it wasn't a thing,

1078
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: and then okay, eventually they just decided to make it.

1079
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,280
Speaker 2: And here, in this case, you would have them active.

1080
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 2: It would sell well, it'd be kind of weird. Again.

1081
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: I'm not up for it, but a lot of people

1082
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:19,680
Speaker 2: would be, and it would keep Connor happy so that

1083
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 2: he's back around in December to take on the winner

1084
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 2: of whoever. Then this would be a sort of a

1085
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 2: mull again. If you lost, I don't think people really

1086
00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,840
Speaker 2: hold it that much against them. So what's the harm?

1087
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: That's the level I don't I don't do. I love

1088
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: that fight, No, not at all. But if you're a UFC,

1089
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 2: what's the harm?

1090
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, what's the damn harm?

1091
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 2: Luke? Come on, The harm is j The harm is

1092
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 2: Jay and his stupid stupid glasses.

1093
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,760
Speaker 3: The harm is they can't afford anything right now, lukecaus

1094
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 3: Tom Brady's getting a dividend. Okay, you get Oprah gets

1095
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:51,320
Speaker 3: a dividend. You know, everybody gets a dividend. Luke, you

1096
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: might be part owner of the UFC. That would be

1097
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 3: a great conspiracy theory to find out that Luke was

1098
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 3: actually a minority owner here.

1099
00:51:57,800 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'm not let me assure you all right

1100
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: with that in mind, those are our five topics. So

1101
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 2: let's go to the next segment of the show where

1102
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:11,400
Speaker 2: we take your questions. It's time for dms from dogs.

1103
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,800
Speaker 2: All right, there you see the rundown, all that good stuff.

1104
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:16,239
Speaker 2: All right?

1105
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 3: This week? Who picks these?

1106
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:23,000
Speaker 2: J Jay? I think this gaff pick them? I'm not sure? Okay,

1107
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:26,279
Speaker 2: so let's go the first one here? Showtime picks them?

1108
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,920
Speaker 2: All right? At the drunken Swan.

1109
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 3: The guy Luke that's the provider of videos for have

1110
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:35,879
Speaker 3: you seen this shit? That guy is a He might

1111
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 3: deserve a paycheck at this point. He might lock himself

1112
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 3: out of this show until we pay him.

1113
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,359
Speaker 2: Look, all right, how dangerous? How dangerous is the new

1114
00:52:43,400 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 2: Nest answer off? Baby, gonna be boy? You want to

1115
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: talk about genetic stock to fight? Wow, dude, I don't

1116
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 2: know if it comes much better than that. Because Nina

1117
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 2: answer off, Folks, forget bro, she got hands too. She'll

1118
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 2: put them on you. She's a good ass fighter and

1119
00:52:55,480 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: then Amanda, you know, maybe the best ever. That kid's

1120
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 2: going try bullying that kid. Oh my moms will beat

1121
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 2: the fuck out of you. Yes they will, Yes, yes

1122
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:04,760
Speaker 2: they will.

1123
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 3: Well, Luke, there's a missing ingredient in that. Whose sperm

1124
00:53:08,719 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 3: is it? That could? I mean it could be even

1125
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 3: more dangerous.

1126
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,839
Speaker 2: Right if it's like fade orson yours Speaking.

1127
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: Of conspiracy, there is Maybe it's.

1128
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 2: Yours, Luke, No, it's not MINEBC.

1129
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,880
Speaker 3: Maybe it's Brazilian Shrek over there at att my man Conan.

1130
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: Again, I'm not going to comment on your insanity, BC,

1131
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 2: but fair enough, all right? Our next one from at Miguale.

1132
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 2: On a scale of one to ten, how likely do

1133
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: you think it is that there will be a fighters

1134
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,000
Speaker 2: union by twenty twenty two? BC?

1135
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 3: Twenty twenty two? A lot would have to happen in

1136
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,239
Speaker 3: the year and a half, because, yeah, look, Luke, to

1137
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:52,080
Speaker 3: get a union, I think you would need a work stoppage.

1138
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 2: So you can't get a work stoppage without a union.

1139
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:56,960
Speaker 2: It's illegal.

1140
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 3: Oh that's a fair Well, you could, you can.

1141
00:54:02,440 --> 00:54:06,680
Speaker 2: So what you could say is everybody could just decide

1142
00:54:06,760 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 2: not to do it. On their own and that wouldn't

1143
00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 2: be illegal, but you can't coordinate one without union protections.

1144
00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 3: I don't believe that's messy. I think a lot of

1145
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 3: fighters would cross a picket line just to survive and

1146
00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 3: get paid. And of course it was so so No,

1147
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 3: I don't think, well, I don't think we'll have I

1148
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:27,279
Speaker 3: think UFC will will find a compromise in which they're

1149
00:54:27,320 --> 00:54:31,600
Speaker 3: paying more, but we avoid you know, the idea of

1150
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: the business, you know, going down for two years in

1151
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 3: order to fix it.

1152
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 2: You know what's funny, if the UFC knew what was

1153
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: good for them, they'd get out in front of this

1154
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 2: because think about it this way.

1155
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: You mean, like, there are are fighters union sponsored by Rebok.

1156
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 3: Is that where you're going with this?

1157
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 2: No, no, no, but understand something like the fighters they

1158
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,640
Speaker 2: know they're being taken for a ride here financially in

1159
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,920
Speaker 2: terms of like what they generate, what they're entitled to,

1160
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:56,239
Speaker 2: what other people get in other leagues, blah blah blah.

1161
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 2: They sort of get it right. The athletic did that

1162
00:54:58,440 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 2: report where they had eighty percent plus. We're like, yes,

1163
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,759
Speaker 2: the union would be great. Here's the thing, though, the

1164
00:55:03,880 --> 00:55:06,399
Speaker 2: UFC took away Rebok and the UFC, the fighters didn't

1165
00:55:06,440 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 2: do anything. They don't give them a single penny of

1166
00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 2: the TV deal. Obviously, if you are you get pay

1167
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,319
Speaker 2: per viewpoints, you get that, but the television deal they

1168
00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:16,319
Speaker 2: don't get a cut of that. And you know, they

1169
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 2: brought in Usada, which railroaded so many careers, but they

1170
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,759
Speaker 2: now seem to like it. My point being is this,

1171
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:25,279
Speaker 2: and they give them accident insurance too. I have a

1172
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 2: feeling that if they came out and said, you know what,

1173
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 2: we're gonna redouble our efforts to give you guys what

1174
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 2: you want, We're gonna uppaper up fight pay. We're gonna

1175
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: have guaranteed minimums. I bet you that would quiet people

1176
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 2: for a really long time. Now would that be the

1177
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: ultimate solution. Would it eventually stop folks from doing it?

1178
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 3: No?

1179
00:55:42,080 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 2: But like if you just up the pay some and

1180
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: you do it out of like this generosity, no one

1181
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,520
Speaker 2: has to risk their career, no one has to fall

1182
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 2: on their sword. You get a lot more money, they

1183
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 2: would get a ton of extra great publicity. To me,

1184
00:55:57,760 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 2: it's like, get out in front of it. The fighters

1185
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,759
Speaker 2: will just ultimately relent to it, because that's what they

1186
00:56:01,800 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 2: always seem to do. I don't know. It seems like

1187
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,439
Speaker 2: an opportunity. But rather than this court case, rather than

1188
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: Andrew Yang, former presidential democratic you know candidate tweeting about

1189
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 2: it relentlessly, and I don't know, it seems like if

1190
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:16,960
Speaker 2: you don't they're going to do something about it. Just

1191
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 2: take it out of their hands.

1192
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 3: I'll say this. For as much as UFC at times

1193
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 3: can like shoot themselves in the foot because Dana is

1194
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 3: so like, you know, unflinching and in your face on

1195
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 3: so many topics and say what he says and all

1196
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:33,840
Speaker 3: that stuff, their damage control is consistently very sharp. And

1197
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,120
Speaker 3: I think obviously you take your hat off for them

1198
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,920
Speaker 3: getting back on the road with these fights and figuring

1199
00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,200
Speaker 3: out a way to do it. And now like everyone's

1200
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 3: mimicking what they did, everybody boxing this week, like you know,

1201
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 3: Team Sports coming up. So their ability to do that

1202
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,440
Speaker 3: is something that you do have to respect. So I

1203
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,080
Speaker 3: think that, you know, in business like this, the compromise

1204
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:56,680
Speaker 3: is always the right way to to stem that tide,

1205
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:59,680
Speaker 3: keep people happy in the short term, and slowly work

1206
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 3: on the long term issues. They'll figure it out.

1207
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:07,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, at ty Lareans, what's some of these

1208
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:09,359
Speaker 2: people like multiple letters all in a row. The same

1209
00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 2: kind is Fight Night on June thirteenth, the worst card

1210
00:57:12,800 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 2: you've ever witnessed? Some of the UFC Fight Night card

1211
00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: this Saturday.

1212
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 3: We haven't seen it yet. I mean, look, it's got

1213
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:21,560
Speaker 3: a main event that that I actually like. But it's

1214
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: not a main event, right, that's the Jessica Eye Cynthia Calvio.

1215
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 3: It's not a main event. Luke, we know that. You

1216
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 3: do realize that until Fight Island gets up, I do

1217
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 3: understand they have a small pool of willing and able

1218
00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:35,920
Speaker 3: fighters that can do this. I mean, I feel like

1219
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: Brian Kelleher, our guy Boom is fighting, you know, every

1220
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 3: six days, and and you have that opportunity if it's

1221
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:44,720
Speaker 3: if it's available. Uh, it didn't jump out to me

1222
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 3: as the worst. Remember that time there was that UFC

1223
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 3: Albany card and it was like Derek Lewis against uh

1224
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,640
Speaker 3: before he was Derek Lewis against Uh. Yeah that was

1225
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,520
Speaker 3: uh that was like, uh, well I won't be there, Okay,

1226
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:00,600
Speaker 3: you know, tell me how it was type of deal.

1227
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:03,360
Speaker 3: You know, this is in that category. I give them

1228
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,840
Speaker 3: more of a pass, considering, Luke, the circumstances and considering

1229
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 3: they came out with a bang. They came out with,

1230
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 3: you know, some really good cards, and all things considered,

1231
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:17,200
Speaker 3: Saturday's card was very deep. So it's tough to complain

1232
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 3: at this point, Luke, it is you got it.

1233
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:21,400
Speaker 2: I mean, here's the card. Here's the thing. They call it, like,

1234
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,680
Speaker 2: worst card by what standard? Have I been to regional

1235
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:28,280
Speaker 2: MMA shows with like, you know, significantly worst cards? Yes,

1236
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: I mean if this was a regional MMA show and

1237
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 2: they had this, you'd be cised, You'd be like, wow,

1238
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 2: it's a pretty good card. So it all is a

1239
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: function of your the context and your expectations by UFC standards.

1240
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,000
Speaker 2: Is this common even by Fight Night standards? No, it

1241
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: is a far cry from it. A couple of gems

1242
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 2: along the way, the Victoria Roberson fight, given what happened

1243
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:52,479
Speaker 2: in Jacksonville, kind of interesting, right, and the main event,

1244
00:58:52,520 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 2: I agree, is pretty good. Uh Cynthia by the way,

1245
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 2: now at Aka, so we'll see what happens there. Some

1246
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: of Andre Feeley's on the card, and you know, some

1247
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: other gems along the way. But yes, I mean, here's here,

1248
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:05,480
Speaker 2: here's the thing. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna sit

1249
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 2: here and say it's a great car because it's not.

1250
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 2: On the other hand, I think MMA fans are just

1251
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 2: being a little bit, a little bit unfair to UFC,

1252
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 2: And that's me saying that they're in the middle of

1253
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 2: a pandemic. They can't really travel the country. They can't

1254
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:24,720
Speaker 2: bring in fighters for the most part from outside the country,

1255
00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:28,520
Speaker 2: with some exceptions here or there, and it's just a

1256
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 2: very hard thing to do. So what do you expect.

1257
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,320
Speaker 2: This is what you kind of get. So you know, listen,

1258
00:59:34,360 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you have to love it. I'm not

1259
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 2: saying you have to watch it, live your life the

1260
00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,080
Speaker 2: way you want, but you got to give the UFC

1261
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 2: a little bit of you know, relaxed standards here given

1262
00:59:44,680 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 2: the greater conditions.

1263
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 3: Look, we got to stand up for the UFC. I

1264
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,600
Speaker 3: mean two forty nine was a freaking like one of

1265
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 3: the best pay per views on paper of all time,

1266
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:55,240
Speaker 3: and that was how they came back to the pandemic, right,

1267
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: you know, And in fifty was great. The fight nights

1268
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:00,480
Speaker 3: in between were pretty damn good. And you know, the

1269
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,160
Speaker 3: fight's over delivered, like I was gonna save this frauds

1270
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: and ends. But Luke Boxing's coming back this week. Okay.

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Speaker 3: Top rank on ESPN doing a Tuesday Night card, Thursday

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Speaker 3: night card. They got a couple more scheduled.

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Speaker 2: This ship is uh is Shakur Stevenson on the car.

1274
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna see Shaker Stephenson moving up in a

1275
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,600
Speaker 3: non title bout against a guy you never heard of

1276
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 3: and if you look at his box truck page, he

1277
01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:21,760
Speaker 3: never fought anybody had heard of. And you know it's

1278
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,280
Speaker 3: a showcase. And I got news for your boxing fans.

1279
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,040
Speaker 3: They're all gonna be like that for a while. I

1280
01:00:27,080 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 3: mean boxing much more. Uh, you know, determined in committed

1281
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,840
Speaker 3: to the live gate for keeping them afloat. It's gonna

1282
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 3: be bad in boxing most likely for a while.

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01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 2: Luke.

1284
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:39,480
Speaker 3: You know you're not gonna see great fights. UFC has

1285
01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 3: been giving us some really good stuff, so uh. And

1286
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 3: you know maybe that's because of the pay structure.

1287
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Speaker 2: Luke.

1288
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 3: It is what it is, right, it is what I know.

1289
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,040
Speaker 2: I agree. I agree like they have a certain way

1290
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,040
Speaker 2: to manipulate things in a way that boxing promoters simply

1291
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,439
Speaker 2: don't have. The latitude. Last thing I'll say on this too,

1292
01:00:53,600 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 2: it's like, you know, you're in the middle of this pandemic. Uh,

1293
01:00:57,360 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 2: and the UFC is trying to turn out cards and

1294
01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 2: I remember before they were back, people like, you know,

1295
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 2: we need sports to like save the national consciousness. We

1296
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: got to improve the American psyche. BC five cards in,

1297
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 2: They're like, fuck this, I'm out. This is shit. I

1298
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: don't want to see it. Like, maybe you were just bored,

1299
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,640
Speaker 2: and that's okay, nothing wrong with being bored. People get bored, Okay,

1300
01:01:21,680 --> 01:01:24,440
Speaker 2: I understand, But this whole nonsense about we have to

1301
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,040
Speaker 2: save the American consciousness go fuck yourself. You just wanted

1302
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:30,960
Speaker 2: to see fights, that's fine, but call it what it is,

1303
01:01:31,200 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 2: d bag. Yeah, all right, So this goes to Swazi

1304
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:41,440
Speaker 2: underscore arts or swazy Swazi? Oh okay, which Jim Carrey

1305
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:45,440
Speaker 2: character wins in an MMA street fight Ace Ventura versus

1306
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 2: Hank Evans, Me and myself and Irene. Don't forget old

1307
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 2: Ace had some knuckle game, BC.

1308
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 3: Did you know he did? And you know he also

1309
01:01:57,000 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 3: looked he had like some flexibility like his I could

1310
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,200
Speaker 3: think jijuts game is probably pretty good. You know, he

1311
01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:06,120
Speaker 3: could put his legs over his shoulders and almost talk

1312
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: to his own ass, Like, yeah, I'm sure he could

1313
01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,000
Speaker 3: roll a little bit, right, I mean, though, is you

1314
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 3: got to be honest right.

1315
01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 2: Ray Finkel as Lois Einhorn beat the shit out of

1316
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: him in that final scene though, remember that.

1317
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:21,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's years of pent up frustration and lack

1318
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,320
Speaker 3: of acceptance in our society. So you can understand that,

1319
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:24,760
Speaker 3: you know.

1320
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 2: Lace is out BC as always, I would say I

1321
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,840
Speaker 2: would still go with Hank maybe because he was was

1322
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:34,160
Speaker 2: he royal, was he was mounted, he was mounted Canadian police,

1323
01:02:34,160 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 2: I think something like that. Yeah, and uh, and when

1324
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:39,920
Speaker 2: he got crazy, he was, you know, he was just

1325
01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,560
Speaker 2: knuckling everyone into the dirt. So I would go that way, But.

1326
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 3: I don't know, there's different kinds of crazy. I'd actually

1327
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:47,960
Speaker 3: put the cable guy in here because that guy was like,

1328
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:50,919
Speaker 3: I'm gonna eat your flesh, crazy cable Guy.

1329
01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: Underrated movie.

1330
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,439
Speaker 3: The First Date, senior year of high school. I didn't

1331
01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:56,120
Speaker 3: get a second date.

1332
01:02:56,440 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine why you wouldn't. All Right, And

1333
01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:02,240
Speaker 2: then last but not least, at the Wolf of Winter,

1334
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 2: thoughts on SpaceX missions and send the humans to Mars

1335
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 2: with a decade. I think they meant within a decade,

1336
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 2: Well you think, b see.

1337
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 3: You know, I'm not sure if we've ever gone anywhere

1338
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 3: in space.

1339
01:03:16,000 --> 01:03:20,880
Speaker 2: Luke, you sicken me.

1340
01:03:22,280 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 3: I mean, look, do you ever just sit around and

1341
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:26,480
Speaker 3: I'm being legitimate here and I'm not making like, you know,

1342
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,400
Speaker 3: mushroom references here? Do you ever just sit around and

1343
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 3: you know, sit outside on your front stoop and there's

1344
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 3: like an ant and you know, he only knows his

1345
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 3: life there and the dirt and the grass. But if

1346
01:03:38,360 --> 01:03:41,520
Speaker 3: I take my can of soda and I pour it

1347
01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:45,440
Speaker 3: and I suffocate him in that life, He's gone. I

1348
01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 3: just I just manipulated. I just changed his life and

1349
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 3: manipulated it. I just destroyed him. I became his maker.

1350
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:56,240
Speaker 3: Look what if our planet in us are the ant

1351
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:00,960
Speaker 3: on a much larger life force in you know what

1352
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:01,400
Speaker 3: I'm saying.

1353
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:06,240
Speaker 2: No, I don't really engage in the ritual torture of

1354
01:04:06,360 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: insects or other animals. I don't know what that has

1355
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 2: to do with space exploration. We have obviously been to

1356
01:04:11,440 --> 01:04:13,200
Speaker 2: space numerous times.

1357
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 3: I think we've been to a sound stage right.

1358
01:04:16,800 --> 01:04:19,800
Speaker 2: Well, you know, I also, unlike you, don't believe in

1359
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:23,560
Speaker 2: anti Submitic conspiracy theories about prominent Jewish families and their

1360
01:04:23,600 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 2: connection to the global financial system.

1361
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,360
Speaker 3: But no, no, no, no, you're digging there.

1362
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 2: The Rothchilds, the Rothschild's conspiracy theories are deeply anti semitic.

1363
01:04:36,520 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 2: But okay, maybe don't get on that part. That's fine.

1364
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 2: I'm just pointing out what do I think about it.

1365
01:04:41,400 --> 01:04:43,919
Speaker 2: I think Elon Musk every time he goes on Joe

1366
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:47,040
Speaker 2: Rogan's podcast reminds us that he's not as broad as

1367
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:50,600
Speaker 2: he thinks he is. But I am sort of interested

1368
01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 2: in this new version of space exploration with the government

1369
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,800
Speaker 2: via NASA controls it through a private entity. They had

1370
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,360
Speaker 2: a successful launch and docked with the International Space I

1371
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 2: think it's kind of cool. Uh will we get to

1372
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,080
Speaker 2: Mars within a decade? I don't know. All I know,

1373
01:05:06,200 --> 01:05:10,920
Speaker 2: BC is that movie with Matt Damon on Mars where

1374
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:14,560
Speaker 2: he gets stuck and then promises to science the shit

1375
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 2: out of things. Is one of the dumbest movies I've

1376
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,640
Speaker 2: ever seen, And if you liked it, it's probably because

1377
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 2: you ate paint chips as a child. Just want to

1378
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 2: point that out.

1379
01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:26,320
Speaker 3: But Luke, do you give any credence or clear water

1380
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:31,160
Speaker 3: to my revival theory here that you know that we're

1381
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 3: not the smartest, largest most developed specie that we could

1382
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 3: be a you know, an insect compared to something different here.

1383
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,360
Speaker 2: Luke, didn't you see those videos of the UFOs that

1384
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 2: the Navy put out. Again, We've had this conversation. I

1385
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,240
Speaker 2: don't think we're the Apex predator. Well, we are a

1386
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,959
Speaker 2: bit perhaps on this planet, but I have no doubt

1387
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,480
Speaker 2: in my mind that there could be incredibly advanced life

1388
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 2: forms somewhere else. I'm really asking, yo, do we do

1389
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,959
Speaker 2: we launch some donks past the uh you know, past

1390
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: the Earth's atmosphere into into space. Yeah, of course We've

1391
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:01,160
Speaker 2: done that.

1392
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:04,640
Speaker 3: Sure, Luke tour listen. Here's this will determine it to

1393
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:08,040
Speaker 3: or false? Will men land on or in Uranus by

1394
01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two?

1395
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:11,919
Speaker 2: Why are you here?

1396
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:16,400
Speaker 1: Uh?

1397
01:06:16,480 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: All right? BC? Speaking of that, I could give no

1398
01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 2: better lead in than that one to the next segment

1399
01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,439
Speaker 2: of the show. Brian Campbell, The steering wheel is yours,

1400
01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 2: good sir.

1401
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:30,000
Speaker 3: Thank you friend. Uh. You know what we do. We

1402
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:33,439
Speaker 3: scatter the globe, the highs and lows, in between the good,

1403
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 3: the bad, and the ugly, and combat sports, oh and beyond. Folks.

1404
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 3: It's have you seen the ship before we start? I

1405
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 3: do want to say, Luke, I am committed to exiting

1406
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:46,400
Speaker 3: the dick trade. I wasn't fooling around. So while sometimes

1407
01:06:46,440 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 3: a few slip in here, you should see how gross

1408
01:06:49,840 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 3: my dms are and you actually you shouldn't and are

1409
01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:55,560
Speaker 3: people who do fuel me with these bullets. They do

1410
01:06:55,640 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 3: need to take a step back.

1411
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,920
Speaker 2: I like, I like how your dms have turned in

1412
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 2: to grinder.

1413
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,480
Speaker 3: Anyway, Hey, we always start off by sending somebody the

1414
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:09,560
Speaker 3: hell in real combat sports. Check out this regional kickboxing match, Luke,

1415
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 3: this didn't last long. We're gonna touch gloves and then

1416
01:07:12,680 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 3: we're gonna start digging the grave. Luke, where is this?

1417
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 3: This is the back of a restaurant. You know what

1418
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:19,720
Speaker 3: we got?

1419
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: Let me ask you? Have you been to any regional

1420
01:07:21,680 --> 01:07:26,320
Speaker 2: MMA fights? Like like, oh oh god, oh wow, oh wow?

1421
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe this is at a funeral parlor.

1422
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:33,520
Speaker 2: Look at this guy? Did that?

1423
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 3: Ariel will tell you it's as Luke. Okay, so get woke.

1424
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:40,920
Speaker 3: But I'm saying here, Luke, is that uh what what

1425
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 3: did you? You asked me? Oh yeah, so regional MMA

1426
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 3: anything can happen, Luke, we know this. Keith Peterson ain't

1427
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,560
Speaker 3: the only person that smells like bitches in.

1428
01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: Who have you been to one? Have you been to

1429
01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:52,240
Speaker 2: a regional Never?

1430
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:52,960
Speaker 3: I've never been.

1431
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,000
Speaker 2: It's amazing to me how many MMA media have never

1432
01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:56,440
Speaker 2: done it. I've been to a gazillion of them. A

1433
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,680
Speaker 2: good buddy of mine, this is true story in Fredericksburg, Virginia,

1434
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 2: fought in a converted billiards haul.

1435
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,560
Speaker 3: Yikes. All right, well, hey, we're gonna roll on here.

1436
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 3: One championship. If they'll give you one thing, Luke, Uh well,

1437
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 3: they'll give you a lot of pr emails, will tell

1438
01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:14,840
Speaker 3: you that much. They won't back down. They want you

1439
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 3: to interview their people. They'll also give you need of

1440
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 3: the face knockouts like this to tatted fellas. Wow, Luke, buddy,

1441
01:08:22,320 --> 01:08:26,040
Speaker 3: I mean yeah, oh god, I think Rich Franklin just

1442
01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 3: rolled over in his grave watching that.

1443
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 2: Oh god, that is that dude part of Antifa.

1444
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 3: Oh good Lord, had some vicious stuff here, Luke. Yeah, wow,

1445
01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 3: you know, I thought, you know, Cody Garbrandt's win was

1446
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,360
Speaker 3: it was was a big one for the Tatted Fellas

1447
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 3: this week. But this guy just set us back.

1448
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 2: You know. Wow, certainly, good lord.

1449
01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 3: What do you think of mister Page van Zend's neck

1450
01:08:48,280 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 3: tat throat tat? Would you uh like if you were

1451
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:52,599
Speaker 3: offered death or that tattoo?

1452
01:08:52,640 --> 01:08:54,439
Speaker 2: What would you pick oh the tattoo?

1453
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 3: All right, all right, I just want to know where

1454
01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:58,600
Speaker 3: you stood on that shout out to this guy with

1455
01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 3: then I wish I had the names. I don't always

1456
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,360
Speaker 3: get the names. All right, he didn't get his moment.

1457
01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:06,040
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Hey, we roll on from here, Luke. This

1458
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,000
Speaker 3: is that we're gonna debut something. It's called Have you

1459
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,960
Speaker 3: heard this ship? Did you hear the promo? Al Joe

1460
01:09:12,040 --> 01:09:17,759
Speaker 3: cut on, Peter Young? Can we play the audio here? Jay?

1461
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:26,959
Speaker 3: Did you hear it? Luke? No Ah, that's that's great directing,

1462
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 3: I wrote in their play sound all right, Sorry, I

1463
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 3: guess you'll have to look it up online.

1464
01:09:32,040 --> 01:09:35,880
Speaker 2: You know this show, bro, Al Joe is jacked. I

1465
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 2: mean he's always been jacked. Have you noticed that? Like

1466
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:41,720
Speaker 2: that dude is just way more muscular than his the

1467
01:09:41,840 --> 01:09:42,720
Speaker 2: other top one.

1468
01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 3: Look, do you know that sound that he said?

1469
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:46,760
Speaker 2: No?

1470
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:50,519
Speaker 3: All right, well maybe maybe maybe we'll all right, Hey,

1471
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,160
Speaker 3: We're gonna roll on from here. It was great, by

1472
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 3: the way, it was a great clip.

1473
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:54,679
Speaker 2: Really made the show.

1474
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 3: Spring and summer is upon us, graduation is upon us.

1475
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 3: Check out how this chick is celebrating a little I

1476
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,080
Speaker 3: want in on this. Look at this.

1477
01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:05,160
Speaker 2: Is this my second wife?

1478
01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:09,000
Speaker 3: Send it in? Indeed, yes, this is great. Look at

1479
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,720
Speaker 3: the horrific look on the regular folks face. This is

1480
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,439
Speaker 3: how you spend to quarantine.

1481
01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,960
Speaker 2: Luke, buddy. Look at the mouth breathing care in behind her.

1482
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:19,800
Speaker 2: She can't believe that this is young and the ladies

1483
01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:21,800
Speaker 2: in the bikini too. She knows how to party. Son.

1484
01:10:22,720 --> 01:10:24,519
Speaker 3: Is this a school of hard knocks or the school

1485
01:10:24,560 --> 01:10:27,880
Speaker 3: of hard I am after watching this, Luke, this is great?

1486
01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 3: You know all right? Hey? You know what else kicks

1487
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:31,799
Speaker 3: off the good weather? And you got to be excited

1488
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,760
Speaker 3: about this, Luke. It's getting out in the pool, right,

1489
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 3: it's pool sison. You gotta get those abs ready, Luke,

1490
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:39,360
Speaker 3: pool sison is upon us. Wow, some people have indoor pools.

1491
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 3: Check out this dive. Oh yeah, yeah, Look that's that's

1492
01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:53,120
Speaker 3: called the facial. It had to hurt. That had to hurt.

1493
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 3: That actually disfigured him. It had to him.

1494
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 2: This is what this is what all those white people

1495
01:10:58,080 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 2: get for, uh, Parkour, this is what you get it right?

1496
01:11:02,479 --> 01:11:06,760
Speaker 3: You're right, right, hey, Luke. Nothing says summer like heading

1497
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:09,519
Speaker 3: to the beach, right, cracking a few cold ones. Ronnie

1498
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:13,720
Speaker 3: Deutsch is back from Instagram. Check out this guy real

1499
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,840
Speaker 3: named Tom Dowd. Check him out. Those are three twisted teas.

1500
01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:21,599
Speaker 3: Lukey impressed, will be in a minute. Okay, how about

1501
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 3: two more, Luke, you impressed that Ronnie Deutscher, our guy

1502
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:27,840
Speaker 3: get getting there? Okay? How about this? How about at

1503
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 3: little uh but heavy? Yeah, you don't just bite that

1504
01:11:32,360 --> 01:11:37,400
Speaker 3: crap off. Look that's six beers bang right. Even this

1505
01:11:37,479 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 3: fat guy's loving it. Look at this guy, Luke. I

1506
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:44,120
Speaker 3: hope to have friends that loyal that when I do

1507
01:11:44,200 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 3: good things, they just pour beer all over them, their

1508
01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:46,599
Speaker 3: fat selves.

1509
01:11:46,600 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: It's great, you know, you know what, This guy, by

1510
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:52,200
Speaker 2: himself is making America great again. I can agree to that, right.

1511
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:53,680
Speaker 3: How does he keep that figure up?

1512
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 2: Luke? That's a great I was wondering because look at

1513
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 2: the fat guy. That's what you're supposed to look like

1514
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 2: if you drink like this.

1515
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,600
Speaker 3: This guy is a growing legend, Luke. I don't know

1516
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,160
Speaker 3: his politics. I don't know if I want to know,

1517
01:12:04,200 --> 01:12:06,280
Speaker 3: but he's a legend in these parts.

1518
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:07,720
Speaker 2: If he keeps this up, we got to get him

1519
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:08,200
Speaker 2: on the show.

1520
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:12,400
Speaker 3: We're close. We're very close. Believe that. Hey, summertime also

1521
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:15,840
Speaker 3: means concerts in non covid Luke LSD is a hell

1522
01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 3: of a drug. Check out this chick, Luke.

1523
01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:22,800
Speaker 2: I've seen these. I've seen people do this at BJJ class.

1524
01:12:23,720 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 3: Would you rather date her? Or the graduation flipper?

1525
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,600
Speaker 2: Oh, the graduation flipper? This one is this one? You

1526
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 2: have to like, you know, carry to the car.

1527
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,639
Speaker 3: Yeah you don't. You don't really like that that hippie vibe. See, Luke.

1528
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:43,160
Speaker 3: You in the mid nineties, remember that bohemian thing had

1529
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 3: a comeback. Hot chicks suddenly started like.

1530
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 2: Fuck all that. I wasn't into that, all right.

1531
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 3: All right, all right, well, hey we're gonna roll on here.

1532
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 3: Uh hey, it's an outdoor picnic season as well, Luke.

1533
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 3: And after you drink a lot, sometimes your friends ask

1534
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,559
Speaker 3: you to do something. Here hold this kick, Luke.

1535
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 2: Oh, that is just awesome. Let me get my Let

1536
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: me get my friends who've never this dude kicking can't

1537
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 2: do a pull up, and they've got him trying some

1538
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:20,320
Speaker 2: acrobatic kick. By the way, the dude who's kneeling looks

1539
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 2: like he's an ogre, Like he's like seven feet tall,

1540
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 2: so by even leaning, it's not it's not short enough.

1541
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 2: And they're playing cornhole in the backyard. These losers are

1542
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: my favorite.

1543
01:13:32,439 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 3: They're playing cornhole and they're like, who wants to be

1544
01:13:34,600 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 3: Terry Adam. Let's just you know, let's just do it here, Luke,

1545
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,599
Speaker 3: this is great. Yeah, okay, dude.

1546
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 2: That is hilarious. Well he got the bottle off?

1547
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:45,600
Speaker 3: Can he did? He did? Win on that? Looks like

1548
01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:47,920
Speaker 3: goonies in the background where we in Seattle? Here, Hey,

1549
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,839
Speaker 3: let's go to the gym here, Luke, speaking of good friends,

1550
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,000
Speaker 3: when your friend needs a spot, you give it to him.

1551
01:13:54,040 --> 01:13:57,759
Speaker 3: Look at the commitment for these two, Luke. They started

1552
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:00,920
Speaker 3: off as friends and I think they ended married.

1553
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:10,560
Speaker 2: Oh god, Oh he bailed on it backwards?

1554
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 3: Oh wait, that's ridiculous, right And.

1555
01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,000
Speaker 2: He didn't he didn't even he didn't even get it

1556
01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: off the rack properly. Hold let hm play one more time?

1557
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 2: Does he one step it off the rack?

1558
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 3: How much is see his feet?

1559
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:27,840
Speaker 2: See how his feet are See how his feet are

1560
01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:29,800
Speaker 2: staggered when he when he takes it off the rack?

1561
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:32,200
Speaker 2: You knew this guy was a funk up. You can't

1562
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:32,439
Speaker 2: do that?

1563
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,599
Speaker 3: Is that proper form on the spot for that? Luke?

1564
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:36,519
Speaker 3: I know?

1565
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:39,920
Speaker 2: Do you want people to the outside? Uh like that?

1566
01:14:40,479 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 3: I'm never going to the gym with you if we

1567
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:47,160
Speaker 3: if that's the future of of h Yeah, that's uh okay, dude.

1568
01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:48,880
Speaker 2: And these guys and these guys are wearing shorts that

1569
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 2: go up there, up their ass. This is amazing, This

1570
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 2: is amazing.

1571
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 3: What a clip of this Russian guy?

1572
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,720
Speaker 2: Indeed, alright, you know you know what I like? This is?

1573
01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:00,519
Speaker 2: This is the stuff I like right here?

1574
01:15:01,080 --> 01:15:03,720
Speaker 3: Well Summers also tip on Tip says in Luke, if

1575
01:15:03,760 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 3: you've drinkken too much. Check out these guys. They're friends,

1576
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:11,480
Speaker 3: they got into a fight. This is a that's uh,

1577
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,040
Speaker 3: that's that's pretty close, Luke.

1578
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:14,879
Speaker 2: Is this somewhere in Russia?

1579
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:20,880
Speaker 3: I don't know, but uh is that one guy? Uh?

1580
01:15:21,000 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 3: Is he? Is he camping?

1581
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: Luke?

1582
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:27,280
Speaker 2: Are is this? Does this count a scissoring?

1583
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:31,600
Speaker 3: Is this this? I'm this may be too far. We

1584
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:33,640
Speaker 3: may have to get out of here. Hey, let's go

1585
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:35,080
Speaker 3: back to a real MMA fight.

1586
01:15:35,160 --> 01:15:35,360
Speaker 2: Luke.

1587
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 3: Uh, you look, wrestling has never been far from m

1588
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:39,800
Speaker 3: m A. Check out this finishing move.

1589
01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:44,360
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that is gratuitous.

1590
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:47,519
Speaker 3: That's like a I think that's like a double axe

1591
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:48,559
Speaker 3: handle off the top rope.

1592
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:55,320
Speaker 2: Dude, what First of all, he hit him with the

1593
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:57,439
Speaker 2: Brian kelleher left hook that he hit on Hunter Azure.

1594
01:15:57,520 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: So that was nice. Yeah. Yeah, See this is what

1595
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,800
Speaker 2: I don't like professional wrestling. People just gets out of

1596
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:02,200
Speaker 2: hand BC.

1597
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, it does, it does, indeed it does. Hey, we're

1598
01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:08,160
Speaker 3: gonna go to art for this portion of have you

1599
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:09,799
Speaker 3: seen this shit? Luke, Let's go to nature.

1600
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:10,360
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1601
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 3: Is this our are? We are? Is our art? Looke?

1602
01:16:13,280 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 3: Look at the balls on this tree? Look at let

1603
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:16,320
Speaker 3: me look at that, Luke.

1604
01:16:17,080 --> 01:16:20,400
Speaker 2: Boy, that tree is I mean that tree is kind

1605
01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:21,439
Speaker 2: of hung sort of.

1606
01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:27,439
Speaker 3: Luke. Is that you in the pool? After about six beers,

1607
01:16:27,479 --> 01:16:29,200
Speaker 3: You're like, f man, I'm just gonna go right here,

1608
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,560
Speaker 3: you know, just whatever.

1609
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:32,880
Speaker 2: Six I'll do it on the first one.

1610
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:37,200
Speaker 3: Buddy, Luke, where was the grossest you ever pee? Do

1611
01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,479
Speaker 3: you have like a public pool story? You have like

1612
01:16:39,600 --> 01:16:43,000
Speaker 3: a I have one time at a concert Dave Matthews concert,

1613
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 3: just pete on somebody's uh like blanket with like people

1614
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 3: sitting there and enjoying the concert right there.

1615
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 2: No, I've never done that, but like my wife dragged

1616
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,000
Speaker 2: me to one of those like summer tours that all

1617
01:16:54,040 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 2: those hair metal bands from the eighties get together in

1618
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,559
Speaker 2: the kind of tour. I mean you should see the

1619
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,400
Speaker 2: garbage pail kids at that that those tours bring out.

1620
01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 2: Good lord. Anyway, I went to the restroom there and

1621
01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,600
Speaker 2: what was this? This was the Merriweather Post Pavilion for

1622
01:17:08,640 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 2: anyone in the DC area. Oh my god, dude. I

1623
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: looked in the commode and there was like blood and uh,

1624
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:22,520
Speaker 2: you know, layers of feces.

1625
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:26,080
Speaker 3: And stay fought the commode, Luke. Yeah, yeah, sure shot. Yeah,

1626
01:17:26,280 --> 01:17:26,600
Speaker 3: those were of.

1627
01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:28,280
Speaker 2: Those things where like when I walked out, I wanted

1628
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,799
Speaker 2: to burn my shoes and clothes.

1629
01:17:31,000 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 3: Yes, can we get this picture off the screen. Let's

1630
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,880
Speaker 3: move on here, Luke, I got a great spot. I

1631
01:17:34,880 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 3: don't know what wedding anniversary you're going to celebrate soon,

1632
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 3: but there's a Brazilian sex hotel. How about the ground

1633
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:39,960
Speaker 3: and pound room you in.

1634
01:17:39,880 --> 01:17:45,120
Speaker 2: On this, Luke, I would rather have ebola shot directly

1635
01:17:45,160 --> 01:17:48,360
Speaker 2: into my eyeballs than stay here for five seconds.

1636
01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 3: Says the guy who went to the shooting range on

1637
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 3: his first date the campus corpse concert on it.

1638
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:54,920
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and you went and you went to the

1639
01:17:54,920 --> 01:17:56,760
Speaker 2: cable guy? You think I do? Do you think you

1640
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:59,680
Speaker 2: are cool? I know, here's the difference between you and me.

1641
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 2: I know I'm not cool. You still are hanging on

1642
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 2: to the idea you're cool.

1643
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,720
Speaker 3: Look, I I also went to American Pie on a

1644
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,320
Speaker 3: first date. That's not a good movie to go on

1645
01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 3: a first day. I did't get a second one. It

1646
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 3: didn't happen in the.

1647
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,200
Speaker 2: Car ride home? Did you tell her to suck me beautiful?

1648
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 3: All right? Uh? Yeah you think? Yeah? Okay? What do

1649
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 3: you I mean? You know it's a creative idea for

1650
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:23,960
Speaker 3: a room, right, Luke?

1651
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:27,920
Speaker 2: You know if you have the uh you know, brain

1652
01:18:28,040 --> 01:18:31,480
Speaker 2: power of a cephalodu.

1653
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 3: If you found out that this room actually existed in

1654
01:18:33,160 --> 01:18:37,479
Speaker 3: UFC headquarters as like a casting couch, would you would know?

1655
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:39,479
Speaker 2: No? See, here's the thing I just don't like. I

1656
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:41,639
Speaker 2: don't like any bed that doesn't have a headboard.

1657
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 3: Okay, okay, you're not one of those weirdos who doesn't

1658
01:18:46,640 --> 01:18:47,639
Speaker 3: sleep with pillows? Right?

1659
01:18:47,880 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 2: Oh? Pillows come on now? All right? Yeah?

1660
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:54,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, hey almost done here. Somebody come get a boiler, Luke,

1661
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:57,320
Speaker 3: she's drunk. Can you get your mother off the screen? Here?

1662
01:18:57,320 --> 01:18:58,559
Speaker 3: What's going on here?

1663
01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 2: Be nice? Oh Jesus, be friendly?

1664
01:19:03,120 --> 01:19:03,519
Speaker 3: Okay?

1665
01:19:03,560 --> 01:19:03,840
Speaker 2: Sorry?

1666
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 3: Sorry? What does that say in Spanish? There?

1667
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 2: Luke? I don't.

1668
01:19:05,680 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 3: I don't have the translation. I can't.

1669
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:12,280
Speaker 2: I can't see. It's the shocker that it's blurry low

1670
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:19,920
Speaker 2: bueno song. I can't quite make it out. Okay, okay,

1671
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,839
Speaker 2: that's funny. Yeah, yeah, that's a nice little Groucho Marx

1672
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,480
Speaker 2: inspired glasses.

1673
01:19:29,160 --> 01:19:31,680
Speaker 3: Smells like kittens. Yeah, all right, Luke, let's go. We're

1674
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 3: gonna end with this. We're gonna go back to the gym.

1675
01:19:34,360 --> 01:19:36,720
Speaker 3: This is very creative, Luke. If you have the type

1676
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:39,479
Speaker 3: of body that can pull this off, this is how

1677
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 3: you strengthen up for the weekend. You know what I'm saying, you.

1678
01:19:46,040 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 2: Know, bcing all my time at the gym, I've never

1679
01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:49,400
Speaker 2: done this.

1680
01:19:51,000 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 3: Well I might have.

1681
01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:53,719
Speaker 2: I might have to give that one the old college

1682
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,040
Speaker 2: try when they open up the.

1683
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:57,519
Speaker 3: Irish in you, right, that's probably why there.

1684
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, are is that is that? The Is

1685
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,920
Speaker 2: that the official like morning combat workout?

1686
01:20:03,640 --> 01:20:06,040
Speaker 3: That is that is? Yes? Yes, you want to go,

1687
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 3: you know, tip to grip with somebody. You gotta you gotta,

1688
01:20:08,040 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 3: you gotta warm up to it though, So thank you, Luke.

1689
01:20:10,520 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 3: Have you seen it? I think you've seen it?

1690
01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:16,080
Speaker 2: All right? Pretty good, pretty good stuff. Wow, wow, all right,

1691
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 2: very good. BC is time for odds and ends. Good sir,

1692
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 2: what do you have for us?

1693
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 3: Thank you? Shout out to Floyd Mayweather. Look, we call

1694
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,360
Speaker 3: him out when he needs to be called out, but

1695
01:20:25,439 --> 01:20:28,639
Speaker 3: you know there are times when, uh, you should celebrate

1696
01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,200
Speaker 3: when somebody does good. And Floyd Mayweather has a history.

1697
01:20:31,479 --> 01:20:33,920
Speaker 3: Uh you know, he paid for the funeral of the

1698
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,400
Speaker 3: man he won the world title from Gennaro Hernandez, the

1699
01:20:36,439 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 3: legendary fighter when he passed, and he recently paid the

1700
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 3: expenses of the George Floyd funeral. And I applaud him

1701
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:44,920
Speaker 3: right now, Luke. You know, I mean everybody has in

1702
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,519
Speaker 3: their family, friends, circle, job, whatever, somebody who's more well

1703
01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:51,599
Speaker 3: off than somebody else, and it's great to see when

1704
01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:53,840
Speaker 3: they sort of step in and uh and pick up

1705
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:55,600
Speaker 3: the check, so to speak. This was a this was

1706
01:20:55,640 --> 01:20:59,040
Speaker 3: a great public statement in power moved by by Floyd,

1707
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:00,679
Speaker 3: and I really appreci Yeah.

1708
01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 2: I mean, look, no one is all good or all bad,

1709
01:21:04,200 --> 01:21:08,240
Speaker 2: and this is a who could who could say this

1710
01:21:08,280 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 2: is a bad thing? Marantha Floyd did? Who could say

1711
01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:10,639
Speaker 2: it's a bad thing?

1712
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,400
Speaker 3: He did send an instagram at Connor saying, you know,

1713
01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,200
Speaker 3: when you come back, meet me in the rematch. But

1714
01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,400
Speaker 3: that's in every other day thing, Luke, and I also

1715
01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:23,439
Speaker 3: did want to lament the loss of employment for many

1716
01:21:23,439 --> 01:21:26,320
Speaker 3: of our colleagues in this game, and specifically with the

1717
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,400
Speaker 3: layoffs at the Athletic. And you know, I'm a subscriber

1718
01:21:29,400 --> 01:21:31,200
Speaker 3: of the Athletic. I really like what they're doing. I

1719
01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 3: was excited when they branched out into combat sports. Full disclosure,

1720
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 3: you know, I was in the running and didn't end up,

1721
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:39,680
Speaker 3: you know, ended up resigning with CBS, so it could

1722
01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:42,160
Speaker 3: have been me just the same. But you know, from

1723
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 3: Chuck Mindenhall to my great friend Ray Barthelome you on

1724
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 3: the boxing side, Chad done this, Josh Gross, a lot

1725
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:49,360
Speaker 3: of people there that I really love and respect and

1726
01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 3: think are some of the best in combat sports at

1727
01:21:52,240 --> 01:21:55,400
Speaker 3: what they do. You know, we're now looking for new

1728
01:21:55,439 --> 01:21:58,559
Speaker 3: work and and you know, nothing's guaranteed, and certainly in

1729
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,560
Speaker 3: these crazy times right now, nothing's guaranteed, which makes me

1730
01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,640
Speaker 3: obviously extra thankful for what we have. Luke, and you

1731
01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:08,240
Speaker 3: know we're shouldering on thank you Danough for bringing back fights,

1732
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:10,720
Speaker 3: but uh, tough pill the swallow to see so many

1733
01:22:10,720 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 3: great people that we love, Luke.

1734
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was brutal to watch. I don't know how

1735
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:15,800
Speaker 2: many got laid off. On the boxing side, was it

1736
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,240
Speaker 2: just old Rafe? Was it anybody else?

1737
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,439
Speaker 3: I don't think it was anybody else. No, Yeah, look

1738
01:22:21,479 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 3: at you don't if you don't read Raf Bartholomew's stuff,

1739
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,200
Speaker 3: the New York Times best selling author, the former Grant

1740
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 3: Land officionado. I mean, there's a I'd say he's the

1741
01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:30,519
Speaker 3: best in the world at what he does, because nobody

1742
01:22:30,520 --> 01:22:32,479
Speaker 3: writes like that. You know, he's a he's a he's

1743
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:34,559
Speaker 3: a great author, and uh, it was it was really

1744
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:35,880
Speaker 3: tough to see. That's some of the best stuff you

1745
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 3: could have read on there.

1746
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 2: And his previews were always they just got to the

1747
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:42,080
Speaker 2: meat and potatoes of things and are really like not

1748
01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 2: to say it was basic, but like you could just

1749
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:47,280
Speaker 2: read his previews and you'd understand exactly for it, like

1750
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 2: if you hadn't been paying attention to a fight to

1751
01:22:48,920 --> 01:22:51,720
Speaker 2: catch up. It was just a great, great way to

1752
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:53,360
Speaker 2: get ahead of the game. So that and then on

1753
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 2: the on the MMA side, it was danced up the

1754
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 2: head editor, Gross Dundas and Chuck Mendenhall, Chuck who you

1755
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 2: know obviously has helped us on this show as well.

1756
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,680
Speaker 2: And we'll be back at some point. I'm sure it

1757
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:06,759
Speaker 2: was brutal to watch man, really really brutal.

1758
01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 3: And then I forget guys. I hope anyone listening who

1759
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 3: employs people, you know, reach out to them. And I

1760
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:15,560
Speaker 3: think that they've made the Athletic has made their libraries

1761
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 3: free so you can you can see the work that

1762
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:19,759
Speaker 3: you maybe haven't seen of these guys while they were

1763
01:23:20,040 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 3: behind that paywall, right.

1764
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,040
Speaker 2: And the last thing I'd say is the bad news,

1765
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 2: of course, is they got laid off. The good news is,

1766
01:23:25,360 --> 01:23:27,639
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, Chuck Minnenhall, you could say, arguably

1767
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:30,000
Speaker 2: the best writer in the game is now available for hire.

1768
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:31,960
Speaker 2: So that's yeah, for someone out there, I hope that's

1769
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 2: the right fit. And I'll just say this too, don't

1770
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,000
Speaker 2: forget about Vox Media. They had a lot of cuts

1771
01:23:36,040 --> 01:23:38,120
Speaker 2: too from all their contract work. There's a lot of

1772
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:40,960
Speaker 2: people that they said goodbye to, including Mike Chiapetta who

1773
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:44,040
Speaker 2: had not one but two different stints with MMA Fighting

1774
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 2: dot Com and they had to say goodbye to him.

1775
01:23:45,680 --> 01:23:47,479
Speaker 2: So it wasn't I mean, the Athletic ones were brutal,

1776
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,600
Speaker 2: but there's been quietly a sort of a lot of

1777
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 2: other ones happening around the sport as well.

1778
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 3: Trivia question. Chiapetta was on episode one of the MMA

1779
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,800
Speaker 3: Beat with Yourself. Correctly, it was.

1780
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 2: Me, Ariel and Mike Chiapetta. That's right. I was in

1781
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:00,960
Speaker 2: the first episode and the last episode. How about that

1782
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:04,719
Speaker 2: kind of interesting? Okay, so from my odds and ends,

1783
01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:07,000
Speaker 2: speaking of loss, but maybe a bit of a triumph

1784
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,639
Speaker 2: at the same time. Oh you had one? Sorry, go ahead?

1785
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 3: Oh were you gonna mention this fantastic Showtime doc that's debuting.

1786
01:24:14,439 --> 01:24:17,479
Speaker 2: Yes, Ringside is going to be happening. I think with

1787
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:21,040
Speaker 2: this Friday at nine, if memory serves, I.

1788
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:23,439
Speaker 3: Got a chance to peep this thanks to our good

1789
01:24:23,439 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 3: friends at Showtime. This is raw, This is emotional, This

1790
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 3: is good stuff. The best way I could describe it,

1791
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:31,640
Speaker 3: you know, going to the nineties is this is like

1792
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 3: boxing's version of hoop dreams, meaning, you know, two prospective right,

1793
01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,040
Speaker 3: you know, young fighters that had a ton of potential.

1794
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 3: Cameras followed them for nine years, you know, through the

1795
01:24:40,360 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 3: ups and downs of both the sport, their personal lives,

1796
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:50,600
Speaker 3: you know. Thirty a thirty pm on Friday. This is

1797
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:53,760
Speaker 3: a very good documentary on two people's lives that went

1798
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,360
Speaker 3: in so many different directions. And I mean you remember

1799
01:24:56,360 --> 01:24:58,040
Speaker 3: Hoop Dreams, Luke. That was I mean, that's one of

1800
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,439
Speaker 3: the greatest films ever that affected us in so many ways.

1801
01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:04,320
Speaker 3: But you know, this is almost a boxing version, but

1802
01:25:04,640 --> 01:25:07,599
Speaker 3: it's its own unique element and it's really touching, Luke.

1803
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:11,040
Speaker 3: I mean, boxing is a game that is so cruel,

1804
01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 3: and you know it can be an easy path to

1805
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:15,280
Speaker 3: the top when you come from nowhere, but to see

1806
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:17,839
Speaker 3: the struggle behind the scenes like this was really interesting.

1807
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:21,000
Speaker 2: Certainly is so. Then on Friday eight thirty pm, of

1808
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 2: course you can watch ringside on Showtime and then at

1809
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:26,320
Speaker 2: ten all the Tyson fights. Then that's where Brian and

1810
01:25:26,360 --> 01:25:28,680
Speaker 2: I will get involved on Friday night to help take

1811
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 2: you through that with our Companion podcast as well Morning

1812
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 2: Combat Classics. On my side of things, I would say

1813
01:25:34,680 --> 01:25:36,639
Speaker 2: we talked about all the bandsom weights that had done

1814
01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,559
Speaker 2: so well at UFC two fifty. There was one more.

1815
01:25:39,640 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 2: Now technically his fight was at featherweight, but he's a

1816
01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 2: bandsom weight. Everything's happening on short notice, blah blah blah.

1817
01:25:44,760 --> 01:25:49,720
Speaker 2: Cody Staman had lost his younger brother tragically since his

1818
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 2: last fight previously, and was really just dealing with an

1819
01:25:53,560 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 2: incredibly heavy heart. I think his brother had died in

1820
01:25:56,800 --> 01:26:00,320
Speaker 2: his sleep, as his younger brother, and he had to

1821
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:02,920
Speaker 2: sort of gut through it and find a way forward,

1822
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:06,719
Speaker 2: and he did. He performed really well. He looked super sharp.

1823
01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 2: You know, his fights go to a lot of decisions,

1824
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:11,680
Speaker 2: but you know, he just had really clean mechanics. You

1825
01:26:11,680 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 2: could tell he was out there thinking. Keller Her was game.

1826
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:16,160
Speaker 2: You know, keller Her gave him a good fight, but

1827
01:26:16,280 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 2: in the end Staman was just a little bit ahead

1828
01:26:18,439 --> 01:26:21,360
Speaker 2: in a lot of areas. And even Kellerher admitted that,

1829
01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, Staman was better that night and said it

1830
01:26:23,000 --> 01:26:25,639
Speaker 2: was an honor to compete against somebody who was trying

1831
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,200
Speaker 2: to do what he was doing. So I really take

1832
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:30,240
Speaker 2: my hat off to Cody Staman. If he had pulled out,

1833
01:26:30,240 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 2: who could have said anything bad about it, and they

1834
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:34,879
Speaker 2: would have totally understood. But he stuck through the process,

1835
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,200
Speaker 2: which had to be difficult, especially in these uncertain times.

1836
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,519
Speaker 2: And he is a real fighter. He's a fighter in

1837
01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 2: the cage and he's a fighter outside of one. So

1838
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 2: remember one here at Morning Combat. Congratulations for his win

1839
01:26:47,240 --> 01:26:50,920
Speaker 2: to Cody Stalman, and we obviously share and send our

1840
01:26:50,960 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 2: greatest condolences at the same time.

1841
01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, the love that they showed as competitors at the

1842
01:26:55,400 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 3: end was really touching. The comments they had about each

1843
01:26:57,479 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 3: other afterwards, it was almost like like a Gotty Ward

1844
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 3: type vibe in terms of like the respect they had

1845
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 3: and enduring that together with the heavy emotional toll that

1846
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:08,479
Speaker 3: was going on. You know, I don't mean to, you know,

1847
01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:12,559
Speaker 3: critique Walt Harris's performance after you know, a different but

1848
01:27:12,640 --> 01:27:15,560
Speaker 3: similar tragedy, but it can be incredibly hard, Luke to

1849
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:18,400
Speaker 3: go in there and be focused on just that. Like, obviously,

1850
01:27:18,400 --> 01:27:20,600
Speaker 3: the grief can fuel you, and we've seen that in

1851
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,240
Speaker 3: different performances in sports. And I think, you know, while

1852
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:25,559
Speaker 3: Harris came out incredible in the beginning and you're like,

1853
01:27:25,600 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 3: oh man, you know this is gonna be great, but

1854
01:27:27,640 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 3: to be able to carry it out over the distance

1855
01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:32,760
Speaker 3: like he did and block that out, it's just it's

1856
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:35,799
Speaker 3: inspiring because you know a lot of people rightfully tweeted

1857
01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:39,040
Speaker 3: when I lost insert family member, you know, I was

1858
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,360
Speaker 3: despondent for you know whatever. This guy went through training

1859
01:27:41,360 --> 01:27:43,760
Speaker 3: camp like this and and you know, finished office training

1860
01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,439
Speaker 3: camp and went to the fight. It's it's incredible.

1861
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:51,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So as you had noted well once the fight

1862
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,120
Speaker 2: was kind of funny was once the fight was over,

1863
01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,800
Speaker 2: he went from zero to sixty like he was composed.

1864
01:27:56,920 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 2: He was, you know, doing what he was supposed to do,

1865
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 2: and then the fight was over. Immediately the tears started flowing,

1866
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 2: like that dude was hanging on by a thread in

1867
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 2: many ways, still able to get it done. Pretty impressive. So,

1868
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 2: you know, hope he gets some rest, hope he gets

1869
01:28:11,320 --> 01:28:14,120
Speaker 2: a chance to mourn, and obviously hope that he has

1870
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 2: a you know, a better twenty twenty than what he's

1871
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,639
Speaker 2: had up to this point. But at least in the cage,

1872
01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,200
Speaker 2: you know, pretty smooth operator. And I think he's gonna

1873
01:28:21,240 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 2: jump in the rankings, probably inside the top ten at

1874
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 2: this point, so in that sense, good for him. Uh Okay,

1875
01:28:27,640 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: I missed.

1876
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 3: I missed a big time nineties reference last week during

1877
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,799
Speaker 3: have you Seen This ish when you you know, opened

1878
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:36,800
Speaker 3: up about your dad when that Japanese fella had the

1879
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 3: skateboard go between his legs and the parents applauded. And

1880
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 3: by the way that apparently I don't know if it's believable,

1881
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,479
Speaker 3: but that guy commented that I'm that guy, you know,

1882
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:47,280
Speaker 3: so shout out to me that your dad is Rob Thomas, Luke,

1883
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 3: I mean, how did you know? I mean, if it's

1884
01:28:49,520 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 3: three am, your dad must be lonely, you know what

1885
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:54,240
Speaker 3: I'm saying. Look, I understand you want to push him around,

1886
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:56,519
Speaker 3: you know, and you will, you will, you want to

1887
01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 3: take him for granted. But the point of me making

1888
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 3: these jokes about you and your face? I mean, and

1889
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, Can we get your dad in a morning

1890
01:29:03,320 --> 01:29:06,040
Speaker 3: combat hat? I'll purchase it, Luke, a sweatsher? Can your

1891
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:09,000
Speaker 3: dad go to store dot show dot com and search

1892
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:13,160
Speaker 3: for morning combat? What is the most what item would

1893
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:17,160
Speaker 3: he be most willing to use? The coffee mug, the

1894
01:29:18,439 --> 01:29:21,080
Speaker 3: beer pie? Is there something that we can get Rob

1895
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:24,400
Speaker 3: Thomas outfitted in which one is most flammable?

1896
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 2: That's the one he'll probably use to say.

1897
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 3: I wantsh to represent you, you know, because you're so smooth, Luke.

1898
01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 2: You know, Yeah, he's not gonna you know, he would

1899
01:29:35,360 --> 01:29:38,720
Speaker 2: never go and buy anything. But if I happen to

1900
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,320
Speaker 2: have one like a hat and put it on him,

1901
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 2: he would wear it long enough for me to take

1902
01:29:43,720 --> 01:29:45,600
Speaker 2: a picture with my cell phone and then chuck it

1903
01:29:45,600 --> 01:29:49,439
Speaker 2: in the garbage. So it's possible to capture it, just

1904
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Speaker 2: not very easy.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna guess he's not known as Rob. No one

1906
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:53,880
Speaker 3: calls him Rob.

1907
01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 2: Right, No, no one calls him Rob. I can assure you.

1908
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 2: By the way, there's a Glory fighter called Robert Thomas

1909
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,200
Speaker 2: that when I was working for Glory, I have to

1910
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:01,720
Speaker 2: watch compete, and like every time I did, he got

1911
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:03,479
Speaker 2: viciously Koh, that was always kind of weird.

1912
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Speaker 3: Oh that was therapeutic for you in a way. Yeah,

1913
01:30:08,760 --> 01:30:14,200
Speaker 3: we encourage everyone to yeah, yeah, yeah, Jay is right.

1914
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:17,760
Speaker 3: You didn't hear that. But Friday night, ten eastern you

1915
01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 3: can watch a handful of fun Mike Tyson fights. You know,

1916
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:25,040
Speaker 3: I broke my back spinal after knocking out Clifford atm

1917
01:30:25,080 --> 01:30:27,640
Speaker 3: there's some fun fights in there, and we're gonna give

1918
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Speaker 3: you the YouTube companion. Look, you gonna what are you

1919
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 3: gonna purchase to drink during this, Luke, That's always part

1920
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Speaker 3: of my week when it's MK Classics, Right, I'm like,

1921
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:36,640
Speaker 3: what am I gonna drink during this?

1922
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Speaker 2: I'll probably have some vodka maybe this weekend, some vodka, Okay,

1923
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Speaker 2: something like that.

1924
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 3: Now, have you perfected the craft and the sauce? Do

1925
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:47,160
Speaker 3: you like to come in sober to our MK Classic shows?

1926
01:30:47,280 --> 01:30:49,640
Speaker 3: Or come in you know, peaking at the peaking at

1927
01:30:49,680 --> 01:30:50,599
Speaker 3: the beacon, so to speak.

1928
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,840
Speaker 2: I need to have a couple before. I need a

1929
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,800
Speaker 2: two drink minimum before it starts. I gotta get a

1930
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,479
Speaker 2: little bit loosey goosey so I can get in the mood.

1931
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 2: I can't start the drinking at the start of the

1932
01:31:02,120 --> 01:31:04,200
Speaker 2: of the broadcast. It gotta be a little pregame action.

1933
01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:05,040
Speaker 2: I feel what I'm saying.

1934
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,280
Speaker 3: Well, Tyson did have a great run with Showtime, you know,

1935
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 3: began with those two razorotic fights and then posts jail.

1936
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,839
Speaker 3: You know that entire run. Hey, I got a Tyson

1937
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:17,479
Speaker 3: McBride pay per view poster over my shoulder hair from

1938
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 3: the good folks at Showtime. So I'm excited to go

1939
01:31:20,160 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 3: back and watch this with you, Lucas. He's making you know,

1940
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,559
Speaker 3: legitimate headlines right now and wanting to come back. Luke,

1941
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:27,679
Speaker 3: he's not kidding, He's not fooling around.

1942
01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 2: Apparently he's not, which is distressing, but the just the same.

1943
01:31:33,479 --> 01:31:35,959
Speaker 3: You have other jobs. But did you watch the Epstein

1944
01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:37,640
Speaker 3: doc on Netflix? I know you're trying to take us

1945
01:31:37,640 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 3: out here. I know you.

1946
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:40,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I did, kids, you guys, I did. I did

1947
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Speaker 2: watch it. It was disturbing.

1948
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Speaker 3: Very Yeah, you know, by the sixth first hand story

1949
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 3: of you know, him paying a thirteen year old to

1950
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:53,200
Speaker 3: massage him, and then it went south from there. I

1951
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:54,880
Speaker 3: did have to turn it off a couple of times.

1952
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 3: But there's a lot of interesting Eddie Bravo type talk

1953
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:00,840
Speaker 3: that comes out of this, you know a little bit.

1954
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Speaker 2: Bill Clinton doesn't look too good in this one. Huh.

1955
01:32:02,920 --> 01:32:07,000
Speaker 2: He comes out looking princes one of the princes, Luke.

1956
01:32:07,280 --> 01:32:11,400
Speaker 2: And also Alan Dershowitz does not look great. Prince Andrew,

1957
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 2: Andrew You, Alan Dershowitz does not come out of this

1958
01:32:15,040 --> 01:32:17,439
Speaker 2: one looking awesome. Also, he had like super yellow teeth,

1959
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,400
Speaker 2: which was weird. Uh yeah, So.

1960
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Speaker 3: Any event, Donald Trump's in it too, Luke.

1961
01:32:24,080 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trump Trump, I mean yeah, I mean I would

1962
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Speaker 2: say I would say Clinton came off worse than Trump,

1963
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 2: but that's not saying much. So, Luke, you would be.

1964
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:38,040
Speaker 3: More likely to boldly wear a morning combat sweatshirt your

1965
01:32:38,160 --> 01:32:46,040
Speaker 3: dad or a pre uh pre murdered Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein,

1966
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 3: all right, well, at least we got at least we

1967
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 3: got one fan.

1968
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:53,000
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, my my, uh, my wife would wear one.

1969
01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,920
Speaker 2: She's pretty supportive and a Buila would definitely wear one.

1970
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:57,439
Speaker 2: But my dad.

1971
01:32:57,520 --> 01:33:00,840
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, I forget about those dogs. Let's get

1972
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,920
Speaker 3: up Weila in, Let's get her. I'll pay for that. Look, okay,

1973
01:33:03,920 --> 01:33:04,559
Speaker 3: I'll pay for that.

1974
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 2: That's very generous of you. All Right, I have to

1975
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 2: get to my other job, as I always have to

1976
01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:12,040
Speaker 2: reminder again. Of course, we'll tweet out the link for

1977
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:14,720
Speaker 2: the merch. It is available on the Showtime Store. You

1978
01:33:14,720 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 2: can go over there now store dot show s h

1979
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Speaker 2: O dot com. Give that a run, of course. Friday

1980
01:33:21,240 --> 01:33:24,439
Speaker 2: eight thirty pm is the Ringside Doc ten pm, Tyson.

1981
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:26,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna be there with our Companion podcast to get

1982
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:30,200
Speaker 2: you through. If you would like to try Showtime for free,

1983
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 2: you certainly can. A thirty day free trial is available

1984
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 2: to you. Simply go to Showtime dot com. If you

1985
01:33:36,960 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 2: like it, you can keep it. If not, you can go.

1986
01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:42,280
Speaker 2: We also have our social media handles, which you should

1987
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 2: be fully aware of. We're at Twitter and we have Instagram,

1988
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 2: and then in the middle you can see we have

1989
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:52,160
Speaker 2: Instagram and YouTube obviously for morning Combat, so give us

1990
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 2: a follow. And what we really care about is subscribers.

1991
01:33:56,160 --> 01:33:59,920
Speaker 2: Hit that subscribe button, hit that notification bell. That is

1992
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:01,880
Speaker 2: what we would like from you. That's a free thing

1993
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,200
Speaker 2: you can do and it does us a lot of good.

1994
01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 2: So b see any final thoughts before we get out

1995
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Speaker 2: of here.

1996
01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:08,160
Speaker 3: T I show time, But how about you try a

1997
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:10,920
Speaker 3: little tenderness too, Luke. I think the last few weeks

1998
01:34:11,720 --> 01:34:14,639
Speaker 3: socially have have you know, affected us in a lot

1999
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:17,720
Speaker 3: of ways. Love thy neighbor, Luke choosing you know what

2000
01:34:17,760 --> 01:34:20,639
Speaker 3: I mean, Like, let's wake up, no more white privilege.

2001
01:34:20,680 --> 01:34:22,840
Speaker 3: Let let's get let's you know, let's get out there, Luke.

2002
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 2: Just be nice to each other. It's all you got

2003
01:34:24,680 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 2: to do. It's free to be nice. And with that,

2004
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:29,920
Speaker 2: with that, that's Brian ca.

2005
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Speaker 3: Hug your fellow man. I don't know about tip to tip,

2006
01:34:32,640 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 3: but hug your fellow man.

2007
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,120
Speaker 2: Maybe go grip to grip. That's about it, and wash

2008
01:34:36,200 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: your hands afterwards and wear a mask. Okay for Brian Campbell.

2009
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas. Thanks to everyone at Malcha Showtime and

2010
01:34:42,160 --> 01:34:45,200
Speaker 2: everyone else beyond, and to you the viewer. Until next time,

2011
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 2: may all of your gains be loyal