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Speaker 1: You're listening to In the Vets Office with doctor Josie Horchak.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to in the Vets Office.

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Speaker 2: I am your host, Doctor Josie, and this is our

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Speaker 2: very last episode of our first season of this podcast.

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Speaker 2: I have had such a blast doing this. I was

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Speaker 2: just talking to a friend this morning and we were laughing.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I had never talked into

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Speaker 2: a microphone, or been in a studio or had all

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Speaker 2: these bright lights prior to doing this podcast. And it's

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Speaker 2: been just such a fun project for me and getting

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Speaker 2: me out of the clinic and doing something a little

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Speaker 2: bit different. So thank you all for listening and indulging

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Speaker 2: me in this. It's been a blast. Our episode today

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Speaker 2: is a really great one. I was listening back. We

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Speaker 2: interview Caroline Hobby, who is a Fella Nashville Podcast Network member,

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Speaker 2: and she brings in her new puppy, and if I'm

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Speaker 2: being completely honest, this was our very first interview of

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Speaker 2: the season. So I think we did this interview probably

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Speaker 2: about nine ten months ago, and as I was listening back,

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Speaker 2: I was like, wow, that's so cute. I sound so

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Speaker 2: scared and nervous, and I remember my armpits were sweating

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Speaker 2: the day I came in and I had butterflies and

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Speaker 2: I was talking so softly into the microphone. My producer

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Speaker 2: Morgan was like, so him a little bit of your personality,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm trying.

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Speaker 2: And it's fun to listen back, and it is a

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Speaker 2: really great episode. We talk all about having a new puppy,

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Speaker 2: which is you know, we'll delve into it, but having

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Speaker 2: a new puppy is such an undertaking and there are

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Speaker 2: so many questions that come with it, so we really

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Speaker 2: go from A to Z and I think you guys

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Speaker 2: are going to love it, so we will dive right

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Speaker 2: in and take a listen. I hope you guys enjoy it.

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Speaker 2: So Caroline Hobby is your guest today, which I'm excited

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Speaker 2: to hear about because you guys are talking about puppies.

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Speaker 1: So I hope I don't get puppy fever.

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Speaker 2: Oh you will. Her puppy Ruby is adorable. She We're

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Speaker 2: going to do her interview a little bit later in

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Speaker 2: the podcast, and we talk about everything. The goal of

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Speaker 2: this interview is just to talk about everything puppy related

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Speaker 2: that is really like the biggest, most informative that visit

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Speaker 2: that I have with my clients is their initial puppy visit.

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Speaker 2: So we go through everything from create training to potty

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Speaker 2: training to what do I feed my puppy to you know,

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Speaker 2: my hot takes on wet dog food and their first

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's just so much ground to cover.

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Speaker 2: And so Caroline just got a brand new puppy, and

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Speaker 2: I thought, what better way to kick off this podcast

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Speaker 2: than with a new puppy and doing that sort of

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Speaker 2: new puppy talk as I call.

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Speaker 1: It, which is so important.

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Speaker 2: I feel like I didn't have that knowledge at all

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Speaker 2: time and listen to this totally. It's funny. I hear

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Speaker 2: so many owners say that, and I'm like, I need

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Speaker 2: where it's like, you're thinking about getting a puppy, here

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Speaker 2: it's some people go into it and maybe a little

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Speaker 2: blind which is great. I mean, you figure out as

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Speaker 1: It's like I kind of had a taste of.

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Speaker 2: That when I had Phoebe, and I would probably my

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Speaker 2: Anyways, though, before we get to the interview, I wanted

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure these are ovaries. The mom was very excited.

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Speaker 2: gender reveal party with all of her friends. No, she

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Speaker 1: Yeah, man, that's crazy. Yeah it's a girl. We stuck

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Speaker 2: Tell she looked at me, She's like, I'm a girl.

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Speaker 2: Derby is a female. Derby is a female. And that's

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Speaker 2: likelihood of you having hermaphrodite is very very unlikely.

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Speaker 2: And so she's fine, Yeah, she's doing great. Okay, when

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Speaker 2: Today we have Miss Caroline Hobby. We're so excited to

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Speaker 2: have her. She is the host of the Get Real podcast.

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Speaker 2: She is a songwriter. She has been on The Amazing Race.

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Speaker 2: She has a mom, she is a wife, and most importantly,

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Speaker 2: she is a new puppy owner, a little miss Ruby. Hey, Rubes,

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Speaker 2: a little bit about Ruby.

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Speaker 1: Like how old she is? Cambritas.

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Speaker 3: So, I actually am super excited to be here because

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Speaker 3: I do need to talk to you about a lot

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Speaker 1: Perfect.

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Speaker 3: I love animals, always had dogs. I am not great

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Speaker 1: Before Sugar, I did.

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Speaker 3: Have a designer dog, okay, which I don't normally have

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Speaker 3: designer dogs, but I had one little dog named Ruby,

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Speaker 2: So yeah, I would do it all wrong, That's okay,

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Speaker 2: It feels like one hundred times all the time. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so how often do we need it? That's like huge.

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Speaker 2: It's like every thirty minutes you gotta take them out,

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Speaker 3: The peapads or the visit the bane the vein of

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Speaker 1: I'm telling we just let her when we leave, we

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Speaker 2: That's a whole other thing is we want it to

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Speaker 2: Throw it in a room where you guys are often in,

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Speaker 2: into her crate. Some people will like even feed them there.

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Speaker 2: If they're food motivated, they'll feed them their meals in

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Speaker 1: We do not want to do that. Oh that's good advice.

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Speaker 2: And if you don't have a kong, I would get

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Speaker 2: a kng. Those are like those rubber volcano looking toys.

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Speaker 1: Put that in the crate.

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Speaker 2: I typically put like a little tablespoon of peanut butter,

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Speaker 2: This is not the end of the world, because I

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Speaker 1: Ah. That's great. Yeah. And at night when you put

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Okay. So Ruby is not food motivated and she

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Speaker 3: It's not like an issue, but like something that I

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Speaker 3: need to figure out is I'll wake up and try

438
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Speaker 3: to feed her.

439
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Speaker 1: And originally started and.

440
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Speaker 3: Like the breeders were like mix some baby food in

441
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Speaker 3: with the food, and like she would eat that, and

442
00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:23,400
Speaker 3: then she kind of got tired of it. And then

443
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Speaker 3: I fed her caesars, which I don't know if that's

444
00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,360
Speaker 3: good quality, and then she kind of got the diarrhea.

445
00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,720
Speaker 3: And then she started eating sugars food. Who is my

446
00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 3: big dog And it's just dry dog food. It's adult

447
00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:36,479
Speaker 3: dog food, but it's just dry dog food, and she

448
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,280
Speaker 3: just like eats it and she's not having diarrhea. And

449
00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:41,240
Speaker 3: she probably eats it like twice a day, like a

450
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Speaker 3: little mini handful. And I don't know if that's enough food,

451
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,320
Speaker 3: but I'm like, she eats it, it's not getting her diarrhea.

452
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Speaker 1: She seems fine. So I will say, my.

453
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Speaker 2: Doodle, and you got a doodle, not my doodle, my

454
00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 2: doodle owners Okay, okay, like poodle owners, clients, anything with

455
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Speaker 2: a poo in it. They are just the pickiest of eaters.

456
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Speaker 2: They're just I live a very special, beautiful life.

457
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Speaker 3: Yes, I told her to be that on the way

458
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Speaker 3: over here, I said, listen, if all goes according to plan,

459
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Speaker 3: you're gonna have a great ride. Correct, It's gonna be

460
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Speaker 3: a you started off like at the top, you got

461
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Speaker 3: into a great smooth sale and family. Like.

462
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Speaker 1: If it goes.

463
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Speaker 3: Well for you, if there's not like a you know,

464
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Speaker 3: an unforeseen event, you got it made.

465
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Speaker 1: Girl. This is a constant state of peaking. She's just

466
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Speaker 1: dude's peak. She just cannot not peak. It's just like

467
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Speaker 1: she was born at a peak.

468
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Speaker 2: She just gonna stay there. It's good to be a duke.

469
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Speaker 2: He's on the top of every it's going to be

470
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Speaker 2: a doodle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my gosh.

472
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Speaker 2: So there are little like picky eaters and that is

473
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Speaker 2: very normal. I hear this all the time. So for

474
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Speaker 2: all you doodles owners out there, if they miss a

475
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Speaker 2: meal here and there, if they don't want to scarf

476
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Speaker 2: their food down like it is, it is par for

477
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Speaker 2: the course. Now with her being a puppy, we really

478
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Speaker 2: want her to get two meals a day too.

479
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Speaker 1: Okay, so that's like how much do they need to eat? Exercise?

480
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Speaker 2: So I recommend for a puppy follow the back of

481
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Speaker 2: the bag. I do not recommend that when they're adult

482
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Speaker 2: because you will overfeed them and they will get fat.

483
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Speaker 2: But when they are puppies, follow the back of the

484
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Speaker 2: bag so you'll see you can figure out how much

485
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Speaker 2: she weighs. Just feeling her right now, she's probably like,

486
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Speaker 2: I don't know, twelve pounds.

487
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Speaker 1: You think so she was like six when we better? Yeah,

488
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Speaker 1: she's yeah, ten to twelve for sure. You think she

489
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Speaker 1: wasn't weight on? Yeah, go girl, usually.

490
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Speaker 2: Like double in size, like every you know, three weeks

491
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Speaker 2: or so. Ruby, Yeah, sister, she's a heavyweight champ. So

492
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Speaker 2: follow follow the back of the bag based on how

493
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Speaker 2: old she is and how much she weighs. Okay, and

494
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Speaker 2: I'm all about the dry kibble you are, I am.

495
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Speaker 2: Do you have a brand that I have three? There's

496
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Speaker 2: three brands that really any veterinarian will recommend Puriana, pro

497
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Speaker 2: Plan Royal, Canaan and Hill's Science Diet. And the reason

498
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: we recommend them is they have a veterinarian on staff,

499
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Speaker 2: they do a lot of testing. There's a lot of

500
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Speaker 2: science behind them. They're well balanced diets. And it's what

501
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Speaker 2: I feed my dogs.

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Speaker 1: You don't feed them wet food. I do not feed

503
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Speaker 1: them wet food. What kind of dogs you. I have three.

504
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Speaker 2: I have a they're all from the streets. One's a

505
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Speaker 2: German shepherd, he was left at a shelter. I have

506
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Speaker 2: a little Pomeranian Chihuahua named Biggie. And then I have Sayah,

507
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Speaker 2: who followed us on vacation in Mexico and we brought

508
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Speaker 2: her home.

509
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Speaker 1: She's really from the streets.

510
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Speaker 2: She just like latched on. Yeah, she never misses a meal,

511
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Speaker 2: that's for sure. So yeah, wet food is not necessary

512
00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,920
Speaker 2: unless you recommends it for a certain reason, like sometimes

513
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 2: if they have kidney disease or other intestinal issues, we

514
00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:29,680
Speaker 2: might recommend wet food. But puppies and otherwise healthy dogs,

515
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Speaker 2: dry food's great and in fact it help us break

516
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Speaker 2: down like black and tartar as they get a little

517
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Speaker 2: bit older. So it's good for dental health too. Okay,

518
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,960
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna quickly recap. Great for sure.

519
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Speaker 1: All the time.

520
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Speaker 3: When you're not with her, even if I'm like in

521
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Speaker 3: the house doing something, yes, put it in the crate.

522
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Speaker 3: If you're with a cower, if you're on a phone call,

523
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Speaker 3: if you are not directly eyes on her, in the

524
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Speaker 3: crate with a kong yep and a blanket.

525
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Speaker 1: Okay, get her out of the bed.

526
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Speaker 2: I know's go see, I know I am the bad

527
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Speaker 2: guy every day. See what happens if she stays in

528
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Speaker 2: the bed.

529
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Speaker 1: I would say, just create for now.

530
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Speaker 2: So you've got potty training down, okay, then you can

531
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Speaker 2: slowly this is you can slowly transition her to the bed.

532
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Speaker 1: Okay.

533
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Speaker 3: You know, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm going to

534
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Speaker 3: because it's all about, like you know, perception is reality.

535
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna let her get in the bed with Sonny

536
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Speaker 3: when she goes to sleep, Okay, and let Sonny go

537
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Speaker 3: to sleep. There you go, and then I'm gonna come

538
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Speaker 3: in there and I'm gonna get the dog. Yeah, I'm

539
00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,360
Speaker 3: gonna take her pee one more time, and then I'm

540
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Speaker 3: gonna put her in the crate.

541
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Speaker 1: I think that's perfect. That is my strategy. Perfect. And

542
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Speaker 1: then Sonny will never know the difference.

543
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Speaker 3: And then I can bring her in the morning and

544
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Speaker 3: just wake her up with the dog exactly. Yeah, Sonny

545
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:36,680
Speaker 3: is Caroline's daughter, just everyone else. Yeah, Sonny's my daughter,

546
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Speaker 3: and this is Sonny's dog. Yes, like it's perfect. They

547
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Speaker 3: love each other, thank god. This designer dog, this kabapoo

548
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 3: can wrestle though, because Sonny and her will get on

549
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 3: the couch and they'll like, they'll like get after it,

550
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Speaker 3: and I'm like, Sonny, you've got to be gentle with

551
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Speaker 3: this dog.

552
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Speaker 1: But I mean they have so much fun. She's a

553
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Speaker 1: little tough, so sleepy today. Yeah, they play hard. He's longed.

554
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Speaker 2: So yeah, get her ninety five percent potty trained, give

555
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Speaker 2: it like a solid quarter. Let's do three months and

556
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,520
Speaker 2: then when you and I know it's going to be hard.

557
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 2: But then once you feel like you've got it down

558
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Speaker 2: ninety five percent, you can at night start to let

559
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Speaker 2: her into the bed and see how it goes.

560
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Speaker 1: It'll be okay.

561
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Speaker 2: It's gonna set you because you know, I don't for

562
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Speaker 2: success and I can't. I can't do Ruby one again,

563
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Speaker 2: although I love her so much, But peeing in the

564
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: house for fifteen years, that's too long.

565
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Speaker 3: I can't do that. That's a lot of carpet cleaning.

566
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: It's a lot of pea smell too. You can never

567
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Speaker 3: quite get it out. You can never goes away.

568
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Speaker 2: You cannot. I yes, So it will be worth it.

569
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Speaker 2: The next three months are going to shape the next

570
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Speaker 2: fifteen years for her.

571
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Speaker 1: So this is like my life.

572
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Speaker 3: Just buckle down and do the hard work in the

573
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,800
Speaker 3: beginning and at build build it strong exactly.

574
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Speaker 1: Then you're set up for success.

575
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Speaker 2: Sometimes the hardest thing is the right thing always you

576
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,920
Speaker 2: always always got to do it.

577
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Speaker 1: Okay, So did we already talk about the hernia? We

578
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Speaker 1: have talked about it prior to this. Oh yeah, so

579
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Speaker 1: she her vagina has not popped.

580
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Speaker 3: Okay, love that for us whatever. They're like, Okay, she's

581
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 3: got two problems. It's her vagina needs to pop. And

582
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 3: I'm like okay, and she's got a hernia and I'm

583
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 3: like okay, So they knocked like a thousand dollars off

584
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Speaker 3: the price.

585
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Speaker 2: I'm like, if people really care about this, yeah, that

586
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 2: is crazy town usually. Let me just I'm gonna look

587
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:13,919
Speaker 2: check her hernia and age.

588
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 1: I've checked the hernia. Okay, what does that even mean?

589
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 1: It hasn't popped. Okay, I see what we're working with here.

590
00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 2: So okay, well, I guess in medical terms we call

591
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Speaker 2: it a volva sorry JJ for fun for vulva kiss

592
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 2: her hers she kiss is a little bit recessed. What

593
00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,119
Speaker 2: that means is they have a volva and there's an

594
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Speaker 2: extra like little flap of skin and it's just like

595
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Speaker 2: kind of sitting a little bit more recessed than other dogs.

596
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Speaker 3: The recess means like in it's just like sucked back

597
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,800
Speaker 3: a little bit, and they're like, but they want to

598
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Speaker 3: The breeder said, wait till her first period, But I

599
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,560
Speaker 3: don't even know if I want to wait for a period.

600
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Speaker 2: Her recess vulva is relatively mild. We can see how

601
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 2: she progresses. I think you're going to start bringing her

602
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:55,359
Speaker 2: to the clinic, so we'll keep a close eye on

603
00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,480
Speaker 2: her for JJ. So what the breeder is saying is

604
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 2: that with time and with estrogen and with each heat cycle,

605
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 2: that the JJ will get engorged and it will kind

606
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: of come out of that little like sheath of skin.

607
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,600
Speaker 2: So you also think we should wait for a cycle.

608
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Speaker 2: I don't know that I would make that decision just yet.

609
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: She's really young. It's not super recessed.

610
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 3: To me.

611
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Speaker 1: I would say, let's give it a little bit of

612
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:18,520
Speaker 1: time and see how it goes.

613
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 2: What could happen with recessed It can predispose them to

614
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 2: getting UTIs. When they have that little extra skin flap

615
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: right there, it can get kind of dirty and urine

616
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: can get stuck in there, and then they can get UTI's.

617
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Speaker 1: So I'd be like wiping it.

618
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Speaker 2: Yes, I wouldn't start doing it now, like she's just

619
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: a baby and it's nice and clean, But if it

620
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 2: stays recessed through her life, then.

621
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Speaker 1: I will recommend wiping it. Okay, if she didn't have.

622
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Speaker 2: A recessed but JJ, I would definitely say let's spay

623
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Speaker 2: her before her first her first heat cycle.

624
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: Does that happen when it's a heat cycle and a

625
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Speaker 1: small dog.

626
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,400
Speaker 2: I like to savee them around six to seven months

627
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 2: of age, so the first heat cycle can happen really

628
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 2: anytime as early as six months, as late as like eight, nine, ten.

629
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Speaker 1: Months, So we just got to wait for it. Well,

630
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna wait and see.

631
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 2: But my inclination is we should probably still go ahead

632
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 2: and spay her before her first heat cycle. Yeah, I

633
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 2: think her a JJ is going to be fine.

634
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:12,200
Speaker 3: I'm like they came in and it was like so serious.

635
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 3: You're like, okay, so you might not want this dog

636
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 3: because she's got hernia and a resessed olva.

637
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 1: Uh huh. I'm like you're like, I don't know what

638
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 1: that means.

639
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 3: I've really only got pound puppies my whole life, so

640
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,000
Speaker 3: like I'm totally fine with not a perfect dog, right,

641
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: but is it like an.

642
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 1: Issue or we need to be worried about this?

643
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 2: And I think such a big takeaway for me with

644
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:38,239
Speaker 2: this is when owners get a new puppy, whether it's

645
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 2: from a shelter or from a breeder, take it to

646
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,600
Speaker 2: your vet, like typically within the first week or two

647
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Speaker 2: of having it. Thank God that I'm doing this podcast.

648
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:47,000
Speaker 2: I tell you you knew this was going to happen,

649
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 2: So you're off the hook.

650
00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 3: Okay, I did not because I need to go to that.

651
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,159
Speaker 3: I think she needs shots too. Actually, yeah, she need

652
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 3: to bok an appointment with you next week.

653
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,159
Speaker 2: Yeah, come on in. Okay, but it's so important for us.

654
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: The biggest goal of the first visit is to do

655
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,879
Speaker 2: a really good physical exam. Do they have hernia? Do

656
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,840
Speaker 2: they have a heart murmur? How is there of a

657
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: JJ looking like? What kind of decisions do we need

658
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: to be making to set them up for success the

659
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:10,480
Speaker 2: rest of their life. So a lot of people will

660
00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 2: wait like a month, two months, and I the longest

661
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 2: I would wait would be two weeks.

662
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: Ooh gosh, thank goodness I'm doing this podcast. I would

663
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 3: not have known that it worked out great. What would

664
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 3: you say is the most rewarding part about being a

665
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 3: vet and is the most challenging part.

666
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,119
Speaker 2: I think the most rewarding part is watching the human

667
00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: animal bond. So it's so special, I think. I mean,

668
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,880
Speaker 2: animals are to me the most special things in the world.

669
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 2: They give us unconditional love and they can just melt

670
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: even the hardest heart. So I really love to see

671
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 2: how bonded people are with their animals and to be

672
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: able to like strengthen that. And then I would say

673
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 2: the hardest part is it can be draining. I mean

674
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,239
Speaker 2: it's sometimes I'm part time therapist. Sometimes I am you know,

675
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,400
Speaker 2: part time doctor. So being on every twenty month and

676
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: meeting new people and people are you know, usually very stressed,

677
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,840
Speaker 2: springing in their pets. It can be taxing in that sense.

678
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 2: So it's interesting, like what my favorite thing and what

679
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: the most challenging thing are very they go hand in hand,

680
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: for sure.

681
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: Interesting because it's all about the heart connection.

682
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 2: It's all about the heart. It is a heart filled

683
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 2: career for sure.

684
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 3: It's almost like calling, isn't it it is? Did you

685
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 3: call to be a vet?

686
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 2: I absolutely, I've always loved animals. You'll hear any vet

687
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: tell you that. But I have never worked in any

688
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 2: other field. When I was fifteen, I started working in

689
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 2: a vet clinic and I wasn't doing it for eighteen years.

690
00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 1: So I was dacked. You just it never crossed your

691
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: mind that you wanted to do one other thing.

692
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: Never for one minute. I was like, maybe I should

693
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 2: be a human doctor, and then I was like, absolutely not.

694
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,240
Speaker 3: I feel like the vet is actually harder though, because

695
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: like you have to know how to operate on all

696
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 3: different bodies, Like you have to know a cat, and

697
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 3: I know you can like specialize, but like cat, a dog,

698
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 3: what if someone brings a freaking burden, you know, or

699
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 3: a turtle like I all of a sudden, you got

700
00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 3: to cut into a random body.

701
00:29:58,320 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so many types.

702
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,240
Speaker 2: The other thing too, it people don't realize is when

703
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 2: you go to your doctor, if you have a problem,

704
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 2: they're going to refer you to an internist or a

705
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: cardiologist or an ophthalmologist. And we do it all like

706
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,760
Speaker 2: I'll do eye surgery, I'll do oral surgery. Ill I

707
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 2: amputated a toe yesterday. Like it's just you have to

708
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 2: know so many things.

709
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is.

710
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 2: It is the great challenge. We call it the wild

711
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: West of medicine. But it's so rewarding in that sense.

712
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 3: But that's different than a doctor because you're right, like

713
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 3: a doctor goes and learns about one specific part of

714
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,840
Speaker 3: the body, or I guess a general practitioner might know right,

715
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:32,040
Speaker 3: kind of more of the body. But it's like it's

716
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: kind of like more in narratory siloed. Yes, but you

717
00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:36,440
Speaker 3: have to just know everything.

718
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 1: We do it all. You're smart. You are brilliant.

719
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 3: You're a very smart person to be able to know

720
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 3: all that and retain all that and be able to

721
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 3: operate and teach people things and tell them things and

722
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 3: take care of living creatures.

723
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: All.

724
00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: Well, thanks, it's a rewarding job. We're very lucky. Vets

725
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,280
Speaker 2: are amazing. Yeah, if you're out there, tell your vet

726
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 2: thank you. It's a really challenging job. So and it's rewarding,

727
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: but we we don't get thank you enough. So next

728
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 2: time you're at your vet to tell them thank you.

729
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 3: Well, I want to say thank you to you and

730
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 3: all the vets because I like even what we talked

731
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 3: about today, I had no idea all this stuff. I

732
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: guess the last one of the last questions I have

733
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 3: is how do you teach her her name because we haven't.

734
00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 3: Another thing I haven't been doing right is putting her

735
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,280
Speaker 3: on the leash to take her out. I just let

736
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 3: her go out and then I try to call her name.

737
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,239
Speaker 2: That's okay, I mean, she's so young, they honestly are

738
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: confused as to what a leash is usually at this point.

739
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 2: So taking her out setting her down in the grass

740
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 2: is fine. I probably would say in the next few weeks,

741
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,719
Speaker 2: start introducing the leash. If you're planning on taking her

742
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 2: for a walk.

743
00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:35,640
Speaker 1: I put her on the leash and we've done some walk,

744
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 1: she's fine with it. Okay, great then, but you're fine though.

745
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: If you're just taking her out in the backyard and

746
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: setting her down to go potty, that's no big deal.

747
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: But the problem is then she'll take off. Oh well,

748
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:48,560
Speaker 3: then she'll start running like crazy puppy zoomies all over

749
00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 3: the yard and she won't.

750
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 1: Come isn't that the best? I love Zoomie.

751
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 3: It's adorable until she won't come back right, And then

752
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 3: I literally have to like try to dive and intercept her,

753
00:31:57,680 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 3: like try to get her with a treat or a

754
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: stick or a leaf and our get sugar other dog

755
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 3: to try to lead her back into the house and

756
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, I've lost control.

757
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: You're like, I'm just completely out of control.

758
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. It is the dog's world and I'm just living

759
00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 2: in it basically. So again, we're gonna go back to

760
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: really high reward treats for training right now. She's fourteen weeks, Like,

761
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 2: I don't expect too much from them, but repetition, high

762
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: reward treats. You probably teach her to sit at this point.

763
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: Come and getting her to know her name takes a

764
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 2: little bit longer, but I would just be super consistent

765
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 2: with it. So Ruby, come and if she starts walking

766
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: towards you, lots of praise and a treat right away, okay,

767
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:41,000
Speaker 2: and she'll start to associate and know if I do this,

768
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 2: then I'm gonna get a treat and that's it'll click. Okay,

769
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to listen back to this podcast. Just

770
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,680
Speaker 2: remember all these things, but I got it. Okay, So great,

771
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: when you're gone and at night with a caong lots

772
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,680
Speaker 2: of praise, yep, hard kibble's fine hard kibbles, fine puppy food.

773
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 2: You want to make sure it's puppy food. That's super important.

774
00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: So not the dog food that she knows she's eating

775
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: sugar's food. But I really would do puppy I need

776
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: to take a trip to pet Smart. Yeah, get a call,

777
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: a crate and puppy food exactly. Yes, puppy food has

778
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: higher protein and fat, all the things that they need

779
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,960
Speaker 2: when they're growing, and adult food tends.

780
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:12,480
Speaker 1: To have less of that.

781
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 2: So puppy food for sure, out the bed, out the

782
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 2: bed and the crate, lots of higher word treats.

783
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: When she's doing what you want her.

784
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 2: To do, come visit you get her fully checked out. Yes,

785
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 2: come visit me, get her checked out. We'll go through

786
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:26,880
Speaker 2: all of the vaccines that she needs. The other big

787
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: thing is year round flee, tick and heartworm prevention. You'll

788
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 2: hear people say like, well, we don't have you know,

789
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 2: fleas or ticks, or people don't even know what heartworms are,

790
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,400
Speaker 2: which is fair, they just don't know about it. But

791
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: it is so important, especially here in Tennessee. Heartworms are

792
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,720
Speaker 2: transmitted through mosquito bites and I probably diagnose I don't know,

793
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: five to ten a month and it is life threatening,

794
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 2: really expensive to treat. So year round prevention is super important,

795
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 2: which we'll talk about our visit.

796
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 1: Okay, so on my report card, I think I'm failing. Right,

797
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 1: you are not failing. No love is there? That's good.

798
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: That is the most important. The TLC is most important.

799
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 2: All the else falls into place. So and this is

800
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: you know, when you go to your first VET visit,

801
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:11,839
Speaker 2: you should get all this information. And then she'll need

802
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,280
Speaker 2: to go to the VET two or three times after

803
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 2: her first visit. And that's always like a really nice

804
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 2: touch base for us, like how are things going with

805
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 2: the create?

806
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: How is she enjoying the kong? Like how is the

807
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:21,640
Speaker 1: body training?

808
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 2: And then at her last visit, I really try and

809
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:25,640
Speaker 2: touch on Okay, when are we gonna spay?

810
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,759
Speaker 1: How's her for JJ?

811
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,640
Speaker 2: Look now, how's her hernia feel now? Which, by the way,

812
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 2: we'll fix her hernia at the time of her spe Okay,

813
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 2: hernias are fairly common, So what is a hernia? Hernia

814
00:34:36,200 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: is well, umbilical hernia is what she has. And so

815
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,720
Speaker 2: our umbilicus, our belly button is where our body wall

816
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: comes together as we're all developing humans and dogs, and

817
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,800
Speaker 2: in her case, her body wall didn't come all the

818
00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 2: way together, so there's just like a little hole there

819
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: where intestinal like fat from inside her intestines and bellies

820
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,760
Speaker 2: can kind of like poke through and it's just not safe.

821
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 2: It's not safe sometimes in sins can get like trapped

822
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 2: in there. Oh okay, and then we have a big problem.

823
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 2: So we're gonna go make an incision there anyways for

824
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 2: her space, so it's super easy to fix. At the

825
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 2: same time, Okay, Yeah, a lot of puppies come to

826
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: me with hernias. It is not not something to be

827
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 2: and we want to address it for sure, But it's

828
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 2: not into.

829
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: The world by any means.

830
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 3: So I don't feel like I have any buyer's remorse.

831
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 3: Like normally when I like buy something big, like a

832
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 3: animal or a house, you do something crazy, it's like,

833
00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 3: oh my god, what did I do? Right? I don't

834
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: feel that way with her, which is great, great, but

835
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 3: I do feel like I got a lot of things

836
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 3: to change.

837
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's so funny.

838
00:35:33,080 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 2: One of the first things I ask clients when they

839
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 2: come in is, especially with a new puppy, how are

840
00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 2: you how you feeling?

841
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 1: Are you better? Any regrets?

842
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: I think people just they don't realize, like they're like,

843
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:44,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get a cute, fluffy puppy, and then it's

844
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 2: like it's a lot of work, and it's a huge commitment,

845
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 2: and so you need to be prepared. But most people,

846
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 2: I would say ninety nine percent of them don't feel

847
00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 2: any regret and the joy that comes from it greatly

848
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: outweighs the The night she had diarrhea challenge and she

849
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: had to go to the bathroom every two hours, I

850
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,279
Speaker 2: was like, literally, because you know, like when you're in

851
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 2: the middle of something, you're like, this is my life

852
00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 2: forever now, yeah, like it's never going to change.

853
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: What have I done?

854
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 3: She's gonna have to go out every two hours for

855
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: the rest of my life, right, and you I mean,

856
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 3: obviously it's never like that, But in the moment, I'm like, Okay,

857
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: this is it, Like this is this is how we

858
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 3: live now totally, and there was a moment where I

859
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 3: was like, wow, okay, did it, we did it?

860
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: Yes.

861
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: But all my puppy owners go through that at some point,

862
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,680
Speaker 2: especially when they come in for like their sixteen week visit.

863
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 2: Owners hands are like covered in teethmarks and they're like tired.

864
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 2: The owners have like bags under their eyes. I'm like,

865
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 2: it's okay, you're in the thick of it. It's going

866
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 2: to get better. But yeah, everyone, everyone with a puppy

867
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 2: has been there for sure.

868
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:43,839
Speaker 3: But then I have the fear looming in the back

869
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,280
Speaker 3: of my head. What if Ruby two is like Ruby

870
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 3: one and I don't do the things I'm supposed to do.

871
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 3: So I need to follow the checklist because I know

872
00:36:50,200 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 3: what it's like to not get it worked out in

873
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 3: the beginning.

874
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: Yes, it's worth it. It's tough.

875
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: You feel like you're a mean dog owner, but laying

876
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: down the groundwork is just going to set you up

877
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: for success. So it is one hundred percent, million percent

878
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:07,279
Speaker 2: worth it.

879
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm ready, doctor Darcy. You can do this. We

880
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 1: can do this.

881
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:13,280
Speaker 3: We can do this, we can do this. You hear that, Ruby, Ruby,

882
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 3: we got this. It's happening. She's out like a light.

883
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,680
Speaker 1: I know. She's so chill.

884
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,240
Speaker 2: She's amazing. She's a great dog. She's a good girl,

885
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 2: she really is. I don't know if she's been like

886
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 2: her coring all morning and now she's just exhausted, or.

887
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 3: She goes hard and then but she will chill like

888
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 3: if you are like, okay, let's get in the car,

889
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,359
Speaker 3: let's go somewhere. Even if she was like going nuts

890
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: the second floor running around with the zoomies. She will

891
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 3: immediately calm down. I love that that's the cavalier in them.

892
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 3: It is Cavaliers are so special. Yeah, they're very sweet.

893
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 3: They are bred to like sit on the queen's lap,

894
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 3: so total lap dog. Yes, yeah, she just wants to chill,

895
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,479
Speaker 3: like if you hold her like this, she will just stay.

896
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is amazing.

897
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 3: I've never ever experienced anything like this in the dog.

898
00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 3: And I've had some great, special like magical dogs, but

899
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 3: I have never She's a love had a dog that

900
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:58,480
Speaker 3: just will hang out.

901
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: I know, she's like melted like butter. She's like melted

902
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 1: this whole time. She's just been sitting with you. Well,

903
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: this is so great.

904
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: I'm so glad we were able to have you on

905
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 2: and answer you some puppy questions, and we may have

906
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,880
Speaker 2: to have you back as puppyhood progresses.

907
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:10,320
Speaker 1: To follow along.

908
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: I think we should, yeah, because the first puppy visit

909
00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:14,759
Speaker 2: is not the same as the second and the third,

910
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 2: and we talk about so many different things. So and really,

911
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to do a check it on me,

912
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:19,919
Speaker 2: like are you doing your work?

913
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 1: That's your n This it's gonna be the Caroline check out,

914
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: like we know, Ruby's gonna she's good. Are you doing

915
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: what you need to do?

916
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:26,439
Speaker 2: Yeah?

917
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 1: Exactly.

918
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: It really is about the owner, it is it. Ninety

919
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: percent of the time is about the owner. We have

920
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,440
Speaker 2: to train ourselves and that is the hardest thing.

921
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:34,759
Speaker 1: Isn't it.

922
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 3: H Yeah, Well, I'm so glad for all this information

923
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,080
Speaker 3: and I feel I feel like I have some steps

924
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 3: you can play it that I will that I'm going

925
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,280
Speaker 3: to do and.

926
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: It's gonna be great. It's gonna be great. I believe

927
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: in you. You can do it. It's a great dog.

928
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: Thank you.

929
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,959
Speaker 2: So she's gonna do wonderful and you're gonna you're gonna

930
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 2: crush it. You're an amazing dog mom. So you got this.

931
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: Thanks, Thanks so welcome, Thanks for coming, Thanks for having me.

932
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 1: This is awesome. I I believe how much I needed

933
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 1: to know this, so I really appreciate it. Thank you.

934
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: Okay, that was a great interview with Caroline. I felt

935
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 2: like so much of it was me telling her what

936
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 2: not to do as a puppy mom, which leads me

937
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: to paw and Order of the week. Here are five

938
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 2: things I would not do as a first time puppy owner,

939
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,479
Speaker 2: or really a puppy owner.

940
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 1: At all.

941
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: Number one, I would not feed adult food. It is

942
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: really important to feed puppy food. We want to make

943
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,840
Speaker 2: sure that they get all that fat and protein that

944
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 2: they need. They're growing so fast and adult food tends

945
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 2: to be less caloric, and so it's really important when

946
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 2: they are puppies, feed them puppy food. Number two, I

947
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 2: would not punish your puppy for pottying in the house.

948
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,560
Speaker 2: That is very important. I feel like that's like potty

949
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 2: training a child. I'm like, listening to you guys talking

950
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 2: about it, I'm like, I'm taking notes when I go

951
00:40:00,560 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: back home and teach my son to go potty. Yeah, exactly.

952
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 2: We just it's really on the humans to be on

953
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 2: top of it. They are very young, they are learning.

954
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 2: It's a really formative time, so any kind of like

955
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 2: negative punishment can really stick with them through the rest

956
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 2: of their lifetime. So positive reinforcement only if they go

957
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 2: in the house. It's usually ninety nine point nine to

958
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: nine percent of the time our fault as the human.

959
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:31,200
Speaker 2: Number three, I would not forget to play with your puppies.

960
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:35,360
Speaker 2: Ears mouth and pause. It is really important to desensitize

961
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 2: your puppy. They are going to need their nails trimmed.

962
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 2: They're going to need their ears cleaned, We're going to

963
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 2: need to brush their teeth. So when they're young, we

964
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: want them to be getting used to having all their

965
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: body parts sort of touch and manipulated. And I can

966
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: speak firsthand my little chihuahua at home. I go to

967
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: trim his toenails and it is like World War three.

968
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: Oh really, Oh my god, he screams, he tries to

969
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: bite me. I mean, it's just a total nightmare. And

970
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 2: so I adopt him until he was an adult. But okay,

971
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,680
Speaker 2: I can guarantee you he was not desensitized as a puppy.

972
00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: Hey, doctor Josie, you're the one that knows this.

973
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, it's hard when you rescues, like it does

974
00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 2: take time if they're older. I mean my friend she

975
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 2: when I got her as a puppy, I didn't even

976
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 2: realize I was doing it, but I used to flip

977
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 2: her on her back all the time. Yeah, and just

978
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,359
Speaker 2: rubb her belly and like massage your feet and you know,

979
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 2: scratch your ears and everything. And that desensitized her so much,

980
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,839
Speaker 2: which was great for my son because when I had him,

981
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 2: he does not know gentle very well. And she was

982
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 2: just so good with him because of that being started

983
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 2: as a puppy.

984
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 1: She's like I got this. Yeah, she's like, pull on

985
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 1: my ear, grab my feet, It's fine. And she was

986
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:37,640
Speaker 1: an older dog.

987
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 2: So I can firsthand say that doing that is so important,

988
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 2: especially when you're gonna have kids around and stuff like that.

989
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:45,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

990
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely, And if you if they have to go to

991
00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: the groomer frequently, it will just make everyone's.

992
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 1: Life a lot. Yes, exactly sensitized. Please please, I beg you.

993
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 2: Number four, I would not take it to a dog

994
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 2: park a especially before it's fully vaccinate. The risk of

995
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,160
Speaker 2: them contracting something at the dog park is really high,

996
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 2: and then be the dog park can be sort of

997
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 2: a scary place for puppies. A lot of the dogs

998
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,080
Speaker 2: there can get together and have gang mentality and I know,

999
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: kind of beat up on the little puppies. And again,

1000
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 2: this is like such an important period where we want

1001
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 2: them to have positive experiences only, so I really recommend

1002
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:23,399
Speaker 2: avoiding the dog park.

1003
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: That is something I did not think.

1004
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 2: I you know, most people would probably think like, oh,

1005
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 2: I want to go get the zoomies out, take them.

1006
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 1: To the dog park.

1007
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,680
Speaker 2: Yes, And we want to socialize and yeah, want puppies

1008
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 2: to play with other dogs and.

1009
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: Trolled socialization exactly.

1010
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,400
Speaker 2: Dog parks are tricky because it's like puppy comes in

1011
00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 2: and like forty dogs come exactly running at them. Yeah

1012
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 2: and the dogs. Yeah, it's just avoid the dog park.

1013
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: Avoid the dog park with puppies. Okay, good number five.

1014
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: I would not give bully sticks as a treat people.

1015
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: For whatever reason, owners love to give bully sticks. And

1016
00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 2: they are to me so gross. I don't think people

1017
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: realize they are. I feel like I've said penis so

1018
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: many times on this podcas. I mean, we're just gonna

1019
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: stay on the sceme. They are quite literally bowl penises.

1020
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:09,160
Speaker 2: They really are bowl pizzles what they call it. Oh,

1021
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: I did not hear that. Yes, people don't realize it.

1022
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,920
Speaker 2: It's so gross. They smell so bad. They are caked

1023
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: in bacteria. I can't tell you how many dogs I

1024
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: have that eat a bully stick and then come in

1025
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 2: with vomiting and diarrhea and they can fracture teeth on them.

1026
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 2: They are just I would avoid them at all costs.

1027
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:27,920
Speaker 2: I feel like too, if they're bacteria, like, especially for

1028
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: puppy teeth and stuff like that. That's probably not the

1029
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 2: greatest or any dog in general. So just no bully

1030
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 2: sticks ever, I say, no boy sticks ever. Okay, good

1031
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 2: to know.

1032
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: It's funny.

1033
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,440
Speaker 2: I'll have a like a doodle or a dog with

1034
00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 2: a beard come in and I'll be doing it as

1035
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,520
Speaker 2: exam and I can smell. I'll be like, this dog

1036
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: has had a bully stick, like the remnants of the

1037
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 2: bully stick are in its beard and it's still like

1038
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,320
Speaker 2: kind of reeks. So is it bad that I legitimately

1039
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 2: thought it was like for bully hype bully breeds, not

1040
00:43:54,400 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 2: a bull's genitalia. Yeah, okay, the naming is very miss misleading. Ye,

1041
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: So yeah, avoid the bully sticks. Okay, So those my

1042
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 2: five don't don't have a puppy, it's very.

1043
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: Good to know.

1044
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 2: And I love that anybody who has a puppy, I

1045
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 2: feel like they can reference back to this podcast if

1046
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 2: they have like questions, so they're like, wait, what was

1047
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 2: I supposed to do again? And I think it'd be

1048
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 2: really fun too. With Caroline, which you guys mentioned in

1049
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 2: the interview, is that maybe to do like a follow up,

1050
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: because now that she's gotten all the great advice from you,

1051
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,839
Speaker 2: we can kind of go back in, you know, three

1052
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 2: four months and be like, how's it going?

1053
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, are you following the rules? Caroline listen.

1054
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,680
Speaker 2: I love that she was like making sure she was,

1055
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,319
Speaker 2: you know, going over the things again and did she

1056
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,279
Speaker 2: write them down right?

1057
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 1: I think she was.

1058
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,080
Speaker 2: She was riding them in her Bookay, I saw the

1059
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: wheels turning great. Yeah, I totally agree. I think the

1060
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 2: first puppy visit we touch on so many things, and

1061
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,480
Speaker 2: then three months later there's so many other things going on.

1062
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, we will certainly have to do a follow

1063
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,319
Speaker 2: up with her and see how it's going. Definitely, well,

1064
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,680
Speaker 2: that's gonna be fun, and I feel like this episode

1065
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,439
Speaker 2: will be really great for anybody who is linking about

1066
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 2: getting a puppy or has a puppy. Like you guys

1067
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 2: were saying, it's not too late. If you have a

1068
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:07,120
Speaker 2: puppy and things aren't maybe going right as planned so far,

1069
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 2: you now still make a change and have positive, you

1070
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: know change with potty and no sleeping in the bed

1071
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, exactly, Yeah, no,

1072
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: it's not too late. And you know the saying you

1073
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 2: can teach an old dog new tricks, you can certainly

1074
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,680
Speaker 2: teach a new dog new tricks, so it's never too

1075
00:45:22,760 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: late to start doing good habits and setting them up

1076
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 2: for success.

1077
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:27,839
Speaker 1: Awesome. All right, that.

1078
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,400
Speaker 2: Concludes our final episode of our very first season, but

1079
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 2: it will not be our last. Season two is just

1080
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 2: around the corner. We will be back very soon. We

1081
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: have some amazing guests I cannot wait to share with

1082
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: you guys, even more stories to tell and cases to share.

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Speaker 2: And while we're taking this very short break, as always,

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Speaker 2: if you have any questions, feel free to click that

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Speaker 2: link in my bio on my Instagram at doctor Josie

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Speaker 2: Vett and record any questions you have to be featured

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Speaker 2: on the podcast and you can DM me as well.

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Speaker 1: And then while.

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Speaker 2: We're on the very short little break, feel free to

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Speaker 2: continue to rate, review and subscribe. Click those five stars,

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Speaker 2: leave all the reviews that you have, tell me what

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Speaker 2: you're thinking, what do you like, what do you not like?

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Speaker 2: And before you know it, we will be back in

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Speaker 2: the Vets office. Can't wait see you guys in season two.