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Speaker 2: Now. You were saying off Mike about how you took

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Speaker 3: It's those Camino ones that are all over New York's

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Speaker 1: No, just be straight with social. Tell me.

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Speaker 2: Culture number eight. I'm not a child, and so just

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Speaker 1: No, allergies are weird, right now, let's talk about this.

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Speaker 2: But then I'm on my group chat with the La

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Speaker 3: And I feel like this is the right sort of schema,

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Speaker 2: Then here's the thing. It's like here we are sitting

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Speaker 2: Here's a guest who's sort of the king of all kings,

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Speaker 3: Wouldn't you agree pop culture because you go, oh right, Oh,

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Speaker 2: Wad Plaza Sweet? Oh, constant reference to Plaza Sweet. I

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Speaker 1: It was actually really culture number eleven. We call it two.

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Speaker 1: We want to thank our vice president for being so welcoming.

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Speaker 2: Now let's discuss our guests our guest, I mean author,

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Speaker 3: The hosts radio Andy, you host Watch what Happens live exactly,

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Speaker 3: It's something I just taped a show, Watch what Happens?

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Speaker 3: Let's see if Nick Jonas is available. We hear Nick

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Speaker 3: Jonas is interested in being in sketches, Okay, we write

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Great, and it's like filthy, filth.

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Speaker 2: I would love just a little bit of queer baiting,

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Speaker 4: There was a moment where Garcelle turned to me at

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Speaker 4: And when there's when there's ship with sisters or sister

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Speaker 4: to bet. To Ben it is all. She's like, why

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Speaker 4: can't you marry Ben? And she's met the mother. I mean,

439
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Speaker 4: it's like.

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Speaker 2: He's one of my favorite people. Like that we've gotten

441
00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:28,399
Speaker 2: to meet through this, that's great. Like he's become a

442
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Speaker 2: genuine friend to us. I love Noah, and I would say,

443
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Speaker 2: have you gotten to see parades? Noah, No, Galvin Beyonce kidding? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

444
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,199
Speaker 2: have you seen parades?

445
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Speaker 1: Haven't?

446
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Speaker 3: I need to seeing it next Thursday. Oh shit, I

447
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Speaker 3: have to give up my ticket. Oh I have to

448
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Speaker 3: be in London though.

449
00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:45,399
Speaker 1: Ticket. We're going to London to see Beyonce. When are

450
00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,600
Speaker 1: you singing Renaissances? You know what? My summer concert is Madonna.

451
00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:51,840
Speaker 2: Because I'm so old, I'm such a I don't have

452
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Speaker 2: tickets yet, but I want you know what, I haven't

453
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Speaker 2: Met Life aversion.

454
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Speaker 1: Oh wow? Do you understand it is?

455
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Speaker 4: It is literally a trap. If you don't leave at

456
00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:03,080
Speaker 4: the right time, you will be there.

457
00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:05,359
Speaker 1: Believe doing that. Twice I left. There's a moment in

458
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Speaker 1: the book.

459
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Speaker 4: I went and saw McCartney at Met Life and we

460
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:14,040
Speaker 4: left Ticky and I. I made him leave and we

461
00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:16,439
Speaker 4: braced out of there and we missed the encore. He

462
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,640
Speaker 4: did a duet with a John Lennon on the screen

463
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Speaker 4: like yeah, but and I was like, you know.

464
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Speaker 1: What, okay, but whatever I mean.

465
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Speaker 3: It's like we went to we went to Gaga and

466
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Speaker 3: then we walk all that we had to walk past.

467
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Speaker 1: It's so bad. It's so bad.

468
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Speaker 3: The only place the work took us up was on

469
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Speaker 3: the side of the highway literally.

470
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Speaker 2: And then I remember when I saw Taylor do reputation.

471
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Speaker 2: I mean, we love a rain show in the moment, yes,

472
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Speaker 2: pouring after it it was a night mare.

473
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Speaker 1: And then we're going to see eras.

474
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Speaker 4: How'd you get your tailor tickets? And went on hard

475
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Speaker 4: time for my niece. I just I just paid too

476
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Speaker 4: much for them, Okay is the answer.

477
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Speaker 1: Yeah.

478
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Speaker 2: Now, before we asked you the question, I did sort

479
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Speaker 2: of wanted to get into it with you about the

480
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Speaker 2: way I come up in your book because we had

481
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Speaker 2: agreed to sleep under the rug.

482
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Speaker 1: What happened one.

483
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Speaker 2: Evening in April twenty twenty two when I made my

484
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:22,760
Speaker 2: debut on Watch it Happen.

485
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Speaker 1: Your Clubhouse debut? And who were you on with Aaron

486
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Speaker 1: Huger the Goron?

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeahwe that was a layup for you. I want

488
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Speaker 2: you to know I got my call that that was

489
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Speaker 2: going to happen. I was in the makeup trailer for

490
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Speaker 2: I Love That for You, Yeah, and I like, I think,

491
00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:37,639
Speaker 2: turned to Molly Yeah and was like, I'm going to

492
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Speaker 2: be on because they know what I Love That for

493
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Speaker 2: you As a huge Housewive set. Yes, so everyone loves it,

494
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Speaker 2: Vanessa Ma. Yeah, so like I'm like, I'm going to

495
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Speaker 2: be on with Karen Huger. It was like a moment

496
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Speaker 2: I almost got like emotional about love because I love

497
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Speaker 2: Karen so much. So then they say we want you

498
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Speaker 2: to do an I don't think so, honey.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I had just seen an episode of New Jersey where

501
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Speaker 2: I think Gia over stepped.

502
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

503
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Speaker 1: Yes, and let me say twenty one.

504
00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:06,399
Speaker 2: Year old Gias yes, yes, yes, So who's in a

505
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Speaker 2: full beat in a confessional?

506
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Speaker 4: Yes?

507
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Speaker 1: Yes? And can I ask you does that mean getting

508
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Speaker 1: paid or no?

509
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Speaker 3: Umm?

510
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Speaker 1: I cannot confirm her tonight? Got it?

511
00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:20,199
Speaker 2: So getting paid and getting into it with Joe Gorga,

512
00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,400
Speaker 2: and you see her as an adult, and I see

513
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: her as here's what I see her as. I see

514
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:27,919
Speaker 2: her as a player on the show, right, And so

515
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,760
Speaker 2: the way she's getting into it and the way that

516
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:33,320
Speaker 2: I know Teresa will act if anyone engages with her,

517
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Speaker 2: and that to me is illegal. That's an illegal move

518
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,880
Speaker 2: in Housewives is for me to bring my daughter into it.

519
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Speaker 2: And then you can see in Joe Gorga's eyes like

520
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Speaker 2: are you actually doing this for your mother? And are

521
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Speaker 2: we going to get into it? Am I going to

522
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Speaker 2: be the uncle? It's gonna have to set you right

523
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Speaker 2: on television. So I went on watch What Happens Live

524
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Speaker 2: and with my I don't think so, honey, I did,

525
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Speaker 2: I don't think so honey, Gia Judeace.

526
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Speaker 4: It was savagely funny, It was shocking, it was surprising,

527
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Speaker 4: it was very pointed, and I had a lot of

528
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Speaker 4: emotion behind it. And I was like, I had my

529
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Speaker 4: cards in front of me. I was recusing myself. I said,

530
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Speaker 4: the views expressed here do not represent you know. Whatever

531
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,640
Speaker 4: shook Karen was shook. And by the way, after a

532
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 4: triumphant debut performance on the show from You and so

533
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 4: I walked into the control room and my executive producer,

534
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Speaker 4: who's such a good deardr. She's a really good just

535
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Speaker 4: gauge gauge for things. And sometimes, you know, I'll go

536
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Speaker 4: in and I'll be like, was I too pervy tonight?

537
00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 4: And She'll be like, yes, you were so gross and

538
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 4: then we you know, and so I was like we

539
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Speaker 4: was that to my like what do you you know?

540
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 4: Because I was worried about the call I was going

541
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Speaker 4: to get from Sia, So like that's my daughter, what

542
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Speaker 4: are you doing? And I understand that she's twenty one,

543
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:59,440
Speaker 4: but you know, she's still a kid in our eyes,

544
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,280
Speaker 4: and yeah, exactly and very cool. So we were sitting there,

545
00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:05,719
Speaker 4: we were like, what are we going to do? And

546
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: we were on tape that day and we went in.

547
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Speaker 4: I went into Math's dressing room and I said, listen,

548
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Speaker 4: I think that was a little too much, and here's

549
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Speaker 4: my concern. And he were so cool, and you thought

550
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Speaker 4: of something different, which was Evan Goldschneider.

551
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Speaker 1: Is the hottest house ratio. And we went in he.

552
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Speaker 4: From his brain did another brilliant rant and he was

553
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Speaker 4: so professional and we were all so blown away, and

554
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Speaker 4: we were also so you know, and I was worried

555
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Speaker 4: that he was gonna then blast me on the pod.

556
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Speaker 1: Never like we made him change. I was going to

557
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Speaker 1: go with that.

558
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Speaker 4: So then I guess, yeah, I did put it in

559
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Speaker 4: the you put it in the book in the book,

560
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Speaker 4: but I put it in as a compliment to you

561
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Speaker 4: because it was he was. It really elevated you in

562
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Speaker 4: my eyes.

563
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Speaker 1: It did well. They said you were in the book.

564
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Speaker 2: I was like, what does he say in the book,

565
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Speaker 2: And then I realized that's the thing, and I was

566
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Speaker 2: floored because I thought the GA thing was lost the time.

567
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Speaker 1: But I'm happy that it's out there now.

568
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Speaker 3: It's out there because that's how I feel, and they

569
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Speaker 3: don't have to know what you said necessarily. Yeah, but see, okay,

570
00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 3: but on the subject is like this, I'm gonna get

571
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Speaker 3: a call from Teresa about this. Yes, I'm kind of

572
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:20,720
Speaker 3: shocked to learn that, like, these women are really texting

573
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Speaker 3: you every damn day. There.

574
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Speaker 1: I tried to.

575
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Speaker 4: Put a lot of the inane stuff in there so

576
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Speaker 4: that people could see. But I also think it's so funny.

577
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Speaker 4: I think I think it's hilarious, and I only put

578
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Speaker 4: shots of it, and I mean, yeah.

579
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Speaker 3: Of course, but it's like I didn't realize the jockeying

580
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: was this jockeying. But like, I feel like it's so

581
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: interesting that you that they have this direct line to

582
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Speaker 3: you where you are kind of brokering like their livelihoods

583
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Speaker 3: in a way.

584
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Speaker 4: You know, the ones that have been on the longest,

585
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Speaker 4: I have the closest relationship to and feel the most

586
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Speaker 4: there are I would say most of the new women.

587
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Speaker 4: If we're in contact, it's on DM or it's very

588
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Speaker 4: ginger or cursory. There's a moment where I'm super high

589
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 4: walking through the parking lot before a dead In Company

590
00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 4: show where John Mayer has just asked me if I

591
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Speaker 4: want to introduce the band Wow, which is like a

592
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,040
Speaker 4: huge fantasy, and I'm super high and I was really

593
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Speaker 4: and I started to get nervous and my heart's beating.

594
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Speaker 1: Vicky starts texting me.

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Speaker 4: This is a Friday night in New York City in

596
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Speaker 4: the summer. She starts texting me going nuts that she said,

597
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Speaker 4: I heard you were talking about my stance on vaccines

598
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Speaker 4: on the show and how dare you and all this stuff.

599
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 4: And I was like, Vicky, I was talking about something

600
00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,360
Speaker 4: that you said is in Ultimate Girls Trip.

601
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Speaker 1: It's on TV. I wasn't putting you on blast whatever.

602
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,399
Speaker 4: And We're getting into it and I'm really high, and

603
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Speaker 4: then finally I said, listen, I'm in a Grateful Dead

604
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Speaker 4: show at a dead End Company show. We will deal

605
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 4: with this on Monday. And she goes, oh, I love

606
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 4: the Grateful Dead. Talk to you later, have fun, honey,

607
00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:59,800
Speaker 4: And I'm like, Okay, that's not It's like so so

608
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 4: real often that you have to put it in there,

609
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:03,600
Speaker 4: you know.

610
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Speaker 3: I just that's perfect to anecdote because I feel like,

611
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 3: please just go with this, okay, But I feel like

612
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 3: you and Laura are very similar in this way where

613
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Speaker 3: you do have to like Lorne, I think thinks of

614
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 3: us as his children, and I feel like you. I

615
00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 3: don't know if it's quite that same, like you know,

616
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: level of family, Like I mean, Michaels is Louren Michaels,

617
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 3: so but we're not all texting him every day being

618
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Speaker 3: like put me in this in a sketch, you know,

619
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Speaker 3: like yes, like you know, listen, I produced a show

620
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Speaker 3: about women with no boundaries. I remember years ago when

621
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Speaker 3: kind of when texting was starting.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was really it was.

623
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Speaker 4: It was it had already started, but Gretchen Rossi and

624
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 4: Slade Smiley would text me at all hours go back

625
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Speaker 4: with me on Orange count do you yeah?

626
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: I'm not quite okay anyway.

627
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,239
Speaker 4: And I would be like, what, it's one in the

628
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,400
Speaker 4: morning in New York, what is happening?

629
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Speaker 2: But then they don't know that either, And I would

630
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Speaker 2: imagine that because that was the first one and then

631
00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 2: it's New York, it probably gets easy. Like I would

632
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 2: imagine that, like if there's like a franchise of women

633
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: you're the least close with it's like probably Salt Lake

634
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 2: in Dubai.

635
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because the boundary is now

636
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: estab exactly. Yes, you know something different.

637
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,959
Speaker 3: Yes, you've hit critical mass in terms of letting these

638
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 3: people have access right right right like like like right

639
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 3: like you have to like put the rope up.

640
00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 4: If there's some major trauma happening or something bad, I'll

641
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 4: be like, here's my number. I remember last year Heather

642
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 4: Gay was going through a really hard time and I

643
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 4: was talking to her before watch What Happens Live and listen.

644
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 4: It's hard being a housewife. Everyone's judging every fucking thing

645
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 4: and whatever. And I gave her my number and I said, listen,

646
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 4: call me if you ever need to, like me to

647
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 4: talk you off the legs, because this isn't as bad

648
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 4: as you think, right, you know whatever, But that's a

649
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 4: situation where you want to be available.

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Speaker 3: Yes, right before we ask the question, I think I

651
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 3: should clear up something.

652
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: Who love it we clear this up before man?

653
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Speaker 3: I went on Happens and Gay Yeah, yeah, I just

654
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 3: went in being like I think I had suspected thought

655
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,000
Speaker 3: I was mad at you. I thought you were mad

656
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Speaker 3: at me, and from the show I was like, I

657
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Speaker 3: haven't been asked back, it's been you know, a year

658
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 3: and a half in change, and was right.

659
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 1: I think Andy hates me.

660
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Speaker 3: I think I think I offhandedly used the word I

661
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 3: might be like probably a L O L band on

662
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Speaker 3: the pod.

663
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: Of course New York Post Picks page six picks.

664
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Speaker 4: Well, but go back before that, Okay, So yes, yes,

665
00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:30,600
Speaker 4: what I said, I maybe like in a different analogous

666
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 4: way to Matt was very excited to bed.

667
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: I was on during like Monique Samuel, and I was

668
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: laid around with Candice. Think about that.

669
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 3: Wow, Wow, touch points touch points Monique. Anyway, she was

670
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,240
Speaker 3: in front of her aquarium.

671
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: That you were on. She loves an exotic animal.

672
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 4: You were on remotely during COVID in the immediate of

673
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 4: the it was the immediate aftermath, excuse me, of George

674
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 4: Floyd was about So this this context is very important.

675
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,479
Speaker 4: Of course, it was about a week or two after

676
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 4: George Floyd, so we were all on high alert. And

677
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 4: I was quizzing Bowen on his Housewives opinions, hot takes,

678
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 4: and he declared that Ramona Singer was like a KKK.

679
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: Race white white supremacist, right, And with that George Floyd context,

680
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 3: I feel like those words were being thrown around a lot.

681
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,520
Speaker 1: Listen. Yeah, no, it's fine. Here's the thing.

682
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 4: We wound up editing it out of the course because

683
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 4: of it was right after George Floyd and everything was

684
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 4: so electric. Ye, we just didn't need the narrative to

685
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 4: be expressed. And then what was I saying to that?

686
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:49,360
Speaker 4: And so we cut it out, and I think you

687
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 4: tweeted when the episode airs, they cut out me saying

688
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 4: you know whatever, And I think you might have tweeted

689
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,520
Speaker 4: one other thing and I can't remember what it was.

690
00:31:03,040 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 4: But so, yeah, we were a little salty about it

691
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: because we were also kind of trying to protect you

692
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 4: and her and whatever and just trying to put something

693
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 4: in the thing. So then you said on the pod

694
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 4: at some point you thought you were banned, and then

695
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 4: that got picked up. I think maybe you were on pause.

696
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 3: I say, we saw Durinda at the out one hundred event.

697
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: Oh but and this is not this is just her.

698
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 3: She kept she kept bringing that, She kept using that

699
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 3: phrase people, I'm on pause, I'm on pause, I'm on pose.

700
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, so, like this is just

701
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: a litimate girl Sade.

702
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 4: Glanville saying you were fired Like that was so, I

703
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 4: mean ultimate girl. It was my absolute fantasy and I

704
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 4: absolutely loved it calling those women and getting to tell yeah,

705
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 4: it was so great. I called Brandy Glanville. She's like,

706
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 4: what did I do? I go, Brandy, going.

707
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: To offer you a job?

708
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 4: She's like, what it was so happy. Anyway, that's the

709
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 4: backstory with Bowen.

710
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,800
Speaker 1: Perfect. Yes, I want to apologize.

711
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:14,840
Speaker 4: You already did nothing. It was in the context of

712
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 4: that moment, you know what I mean totally yes, it

713
00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 4: was just an electric moment.

714
00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: Of course, and I just it's that thing where you go, oh,

715
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 3: I might have like completely alienated myself from this thing.

716
00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 1: That I love.

717
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, oh, you know, sorry, no, no, no,

718
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: it's and it's nobody's fault, and like you would have

719
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,480
Speaker 3: gotten a call from Ramona, and honestly, I was.

720
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:35,680
Speaker 4: It would have been I think getting a call from

721
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 4: Ramona would have been the least because it maybe you know,

722
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 4: it probably would have been picked up all over it

723
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 4: just at that moment in time. Of course, it was

724
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 4: just the moment.

725
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 2: Well, this all being said, Romona was absolutely brutal ones

726
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: And I also think, like it's funny because you talk

727
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: about the last season of New York, and I want

728
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: to ask you about the new seas.

729
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 4: You see in the book, the evolution of that plan,

730
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 4: and yes, and so I always felt watching that last

731
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 4: season of Ronnie, which I thought actually started strongly people

732
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,200
Speaker 4: give it credit or I remember when the first episode

733
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 4: came on, I was like, Oh, thank god, these are

734
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 4: the funniest one.

735
00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. And then I think, like, when you

736
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 2: have the five of them and it was only five

737
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 2: of them together and it's people as varying as Leah

738
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 2: and Ebony and Lou and Sonya and Ramona, it's like

739
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: if all you have is really to sit with each

740
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 2: other because you can't talk to anyone during COVID, and

741
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 2: you're all so not even just disparate on the issues

742
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 2: you like, ideologically in terms of like the level of

743
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: capability to discuss the issues, you're never gonna get there.

744
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 2: I always felt like I would have loved to have

745
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 2: seen more of a chance to bond with women that

746
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: were like minded, because while I think of the conflict,

747
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,440
Speaker 2: but now it's like, you know, we've moved on and

748
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 2: we have the new women, which I'm like, really.

749
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 4: Because they're friends, because they are friends. Also, you know,

750
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: I want to say that that was rough. That season

751
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:03,000
Speaker 4: got so much heat and people were so upset about

752
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 4: exactly I love that show, like I guess, yes, you know,

753
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 4: but we were at a real fork in the road

754
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 4: with Ronnie and there was there was a lot going

755
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 4: on and it was really unclear how to proceed, and I,

756
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 4: you know, look, I just thought that was the best

757
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:25,440
Speaker 4: plan to do a legacy and do a brand new Rony.

758
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 4: And the thing about the brand new Rony and I

759
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 4: love it and it's new. It's a new show, and

760
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 4: it's so I think it's gonna be I just want

761
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:35,560
Speaker 4: people to watch it.

762
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: It's hard to watch it. It's and not think about.

763
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 4: But where's Sonya and where's the you know, it's like,

764
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:46,760
Speaker 4: it's a totally different show. Now there will be Roney Legacy.

765
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,240
Speaker 4: There will be good news coming out about that. Also,

766
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 4: I want to say.

767
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 1: You guys, welcome to Crappy Lake.

768
00:34:56,440 --> 00:35:02,120
Speaker 4: And you guys, I've only seen four episodes it is.

769
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: I watched them all. I have nothing to do with

770
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 4: the show. I didn't develop it, I have nothing to

771
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: do with it. I have no stake in the game

772
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:12,120
Speaker 4: except that I love these women. It is like the

773
00:35:12,760 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 4: simple life. It's the menopausal simple life, okay, and they

774
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: are every moment is giveable, the ship coming out of

775
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 4: both of their mouths, and I don't want to betray

776
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 4: it is a comedy like no other. I called them

777
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:33,240
Speaker 4: all the next day. I was like, I'm blown away

778
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 4: my mind. It is spectacular. So you will get some

779
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,319
Speaker 4: of the fun of Ronny from those two and it's

780
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,720
Speaker 4: small and I think we're.

781
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: Good, you know what I mean.

782
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 3: I honestly when when that press release came out about

783
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 3: the decision, but right by the way, I think I

784
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,880
Speaker 3: even texted like the group chat that day and I

785
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 3: was like, oh, Andy's a genius, Like this is a

786
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,799
Speaker 3: genius thing, and it's so funny to hear like the

787
00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 3: housewives find out the same time as everyone else.

788
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 1: We had to well that was in the book.

789
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 4: I talked about that we had to let all of

790
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 4: the Roney women know, like one minute before we divided

791
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 4: and conquered and we're like texting them. And the night before,

792
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 4: Lou had been on Watch What Happens Live and in

793
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 4: the middle in a commercial break, she was like, so,

794
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 4: what's happening with the show, darl We need to talk

795
00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:20,440
Speaker 4: like and I was like, Okay, let's talk tomorrow at

796
00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 4: two because I knew that at two o five the

797
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 4: thing was Kay.

798
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: I was like, little does she though we do have

799
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,200
Speaker 1: news here.

800
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but the Roney cast is they are the biggest leakers.

801
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 4: And that's what happened with the Roney Legacy contracts. It

802
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 4: was like they were all leaking shit about the thing,

803
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,759
Speaker 4: and then we wound up pulling the d.

804
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: We were like, you know what, we can't do this, like.

805
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 2: You're gonna laugh. We were in Miami for New Year's

806
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,000
Speaker 2: which is why we couldn't join. I wanted to do

807
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: on with it, which would have been a blast, but

808
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 2: we had plans to go to Miami and we were

809
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 2: on vacation. And who was there but Ali's Aaron right

810
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,399
Speaker 2: in a sea of game men, like it's a sea

811
00:36:59,440 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 2: of gay men.

812
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 3: Her husband or something. I don't know, my friend. I

813
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: don't know, maybe if from a guy that she was with,

814
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: like a straight guy. Think so I think she was

815
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 3: there with the header.

816
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 2: She It was just very funny and so we were

817
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:12,879
Speaker 2: talking to her and I was I was like, what's

818
00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 2: going on with Legacy? And she's like, well, you know,

819
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,880
Speaker 2: they got to offer Bravo money up he cock money,

820
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: and I almost wanted.

821
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:21,520
Speaker 1: To tell her like, don't push that. Take what they're

822
00:37:21,520 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: going to offer.

823
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 2: But I was, of course in Miami and on substances,

824
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:29,320
Speaker 2: and I couldn't get into it with aliment. But I

825
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 2: remember going to Crosside and being like, oh, they're going

826
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 2: to fuck that up.

827
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 4: Up.

828
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:35,720
Speaker 1: That's funny.

829
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 2: Well anyway, like wait, vander Pump, vander Pump. Okay, So

830
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: in what's going on with all of this? Because I

831
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,400
Speaker 2: think this is the craziest ship that's ever happened on Bravo.

832
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 2: Maybe we have Sandoval here and Ariana, So when you

833
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 2: are thinking of them as people in your life that

834
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,360
Speaker 2: you've known now for over ten years, like when you

835
00:37:56,440 --> 00:38:00,880
Speaker 2: hear this has happened, what is the process? Is it like,

836
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,480
Speaker 2: oh my god, this show is about to explode? Or

837
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 2: is it initially like what the fuck?

838
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: Like? Who do you techt?

839
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 4: My initial the executive producer texted me the morning after

840
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 4: the famous Sena and Raquel appearance on Watch What Happens.

841
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: Live, which is also surreal. It happened that night.

842
00:38:19,560 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 4: I had the Tom Tom sweatshirt in my home and

843
00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,879
Speaker 4: he texted and said, you will never believe but this

844
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:29,319
Speaker 4: all came out last night.

845
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 1: I was like what And I called him.

846
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 4: And I called Alex Basket and I said and I

847
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,400
Speaker 4: was like, where are the camera? But my first reaction

848
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,919
Speaker 4: was I couldn't believe it and where the camera?

849
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 1: Like what are we doing? How are we covering this?

850
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 4: And they were and that was my first reaction, and

851
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 4: I was like, Okay, who's booked on watch What Happens

852
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:55,240
Speaker 4: Live next week?

853
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: And we were gonna pull I can't remember.

854
00:38:58,320 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 4: What it was, but I was like, we need a

855
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 4: pump person and we need to be live, and then

856
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:06,960
Speaker 4: it was we had been toying with having Jackson and

857
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 4: so and then we were like, oh my god, Jacks

858
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 4: would be so great to comment.

859
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: And then we said, you know what, he's not the.

860
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 4: First one we want to hear from. So then we

861
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 4: called vander Pump and said come on. And it was

862
00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 4: really good that she was on. She was the first voice.

863
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: She seemed like the president.

864
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 4: She did it really they were all die yes, and

865
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 4: she also was very good at She and I talked

866
00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 4: beforehand and I said, I think we need to kind

867
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 4: of let the steam out of everybody because I was

868
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: worried because these are real people and I was just

869
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 4: making sure, like have we offered them the show a psychologists?

870
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: Are we you know what I mean? Like, how is

871
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 1: their mental health?

872
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: Because this is not only going on in their lives,

873
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 4: but fans are coming for them with like torchins, and

874
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 4: so you do have to think about that. And you know,

875
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 4: Santoval's from Saint Louis, my hometown, so I always had

876
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 4: this vibe with him. Yeah, and people were like why

877
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 4: do you And by the way, I follow him on Instagram.

878
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 4: He's from Saint Louis and everyone was like, why are

879
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 4: you still following him? And I was like, if I

880
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 4: unfollow him, then it becomes a story. And it's like

881
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,640
Speaker 4: on page six hen followed. So it's like, just calm down.

882
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: Did you hear about the show on Monday? Yeah, bummer

883
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 3: or just a bummer that it seemed some messn L

884
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 3: people went right?

885
00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 4: Did he changed the lyrics or was it a bummer

886
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 4: that a lot of people were.

887
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 3: There from the accounts that were getting or that it

888
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: was sparsely attended? Oh it was And then the people

889
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: who were there were there like shouting.

890
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 2: And here's my thing is it's like I'm fifty to

891
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: fifty on that because it's like people becauseever they want,

892
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:43,480
Speaker 2: if they want to go. But my thing is that

893
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:46,560
Speaker 2: I'm sure should happen is that he should cancel the

894
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: shore and that to me he speaks that speaks to

895
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,440
Speaker 2: me to a larger Tom Sandoval thing. And I always

896
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 2: liked Sandaval and what I saw of him. I think

897
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 2: that he needs to really assess the fact and realize

898
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 2: the fact that he is in our assist and that

899
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 2: he has tendencies that keep putting them out.

900
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:07,000
Speaker 4: But by the way, Vanderbumper rules is a stupot full

901
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,240
Speaker 4: of narciss But I don't.

902
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 2: Know if textbook like the actual definition of me.

903
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: Get into that.

904
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,800
Speaker 4: Almost at every Housewives reunion, someone says you're a narcissist,

905
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 4: and I say, we're all narcissists. The cameras are there

906
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 4: and we're in front of that's not And then someone

907
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 4: says this is the definition. I'm like, oh, you're right,

908
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 4: Like Donald Trump is a narcissist, and.

909
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: I think that this is part of what maybe you're saying.

910
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: Also he's not for sure.

911
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,160
Speaker 4: But also conversely, what I always say to housewives who

912
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 4: are in the middle of something where people are really

913
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 4: mad at them, I always say, get off Twitter, because

914
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,799
Speaker 4: this doesn't exist outside of Twitter, because when you're on

915
00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 4: the street and you're at your most hated, I guarantee

916
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 4: people are trying to come up to you and.

917
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: Talk to you.

918
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 4: Now, I don't know what people are saying to Tom Sandoval,

919
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: but like I also, and this is in the book,

920
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:58,759
Speaker 4: I hated it that Lisa Rinna got booed at Bravocan.

921
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 4: I'm like, you guys, she showed up, you know, and

922
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:06,480
Speaker 4: so I just thought that was I don't like that.

923
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,239
Speaker 2: Well, you know, yeah, I mean I think that's what

924
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 2: kind of makes it like the stand in for the

925
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 2: soap an ugly way kind of because we're invested in

926
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 2: the minutia of their lives, and then when someone does

927
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 2: something villainous, because every show needs one, they occupy an

928
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 2: actual villain space in our minds, and then they are real.

929
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,080
Speaker 1: Ultimately it's not Erica Kaine, yes, but it's also.

930
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 3: Doing this thing where like the water cooler moment gets

931
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 3: split into two and it works at like what's on

932
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: the show with airing and what's like happening at the

933
00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 3: concurrently in real life.

934
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, and on social media, which has to be a

935
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 2: very weird thing to deal with. It's like I remember

936
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 2: watching the Beverly Hills reunion, and it felt like we

937
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 2: had to talk about so many things that happen in

938
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: social media, and it's almost like they don't really have

939
00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: answers because it's also like you get the sense that

940
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 2: not every woman on these shows necessarily knows how to

941
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: do or handle social media, like the Diana Jenkins of

942
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: it all like that, But Diana Garcel thing was just

943
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: so frustrated to watch because it was just like, I

944
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 2: don't think you can even not literally but not no,

945
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 2: you're not speaking the same language here, and so that

946
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,840
Speaker 2: made it frustrating. But anyway, we can't wait to see

947
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: the It's just surreal to watch these these scenes of

948
00:43:19,680 --> 00:43:23,880
Speaker 2: Arianna so fervently like go in for her friends, you

949
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 2: know what I mean. She's she's such a good person

950
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 2: and she rides so hard for Tom and Raquel, and

951
00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,360
Speaker 2: to watch them just lie to her face. It's like

952
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,400
Speaker 2: with Tom Sandival, it just has to be narcissism and

953
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 2: he just can't necessarily like get out of his own way.

954
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 1: And I think Raquel, you know, she just she's just

955
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: lost styleless. She just needs she needs to assess. But

956
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: I'm sure this is coming. Is she she.

957
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,440
Speaker 3: Posted a photo of her like in front of some

958
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: beautiful castle, Scottish castle.

959
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:51,840
Speaker 1: I'm not happy that she's at the castle.

960
00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:52,479
Speaker 3: Me too.

961
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 2: So Andy, We're going to ask you the central question

962
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 2: that we asked every guest that roses through our studio

963
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 2: here at last. Culture is thus and that is what

964
00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,319
Speaker 2: is the culture that made you say culture is for me?

965
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:13,920
Speaker 2: This is a formative pop culture that made Andy Cohen,

966
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: Andy Cohen.

967
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,640
Speaker 1: All my children, Yes, I know all my children.

968
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 4: I was on Live with Kelly and Mark yesterday and

969
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,880
Speaker 4: Ken Jennilliam, Haley Matteo. I played against them in and

970
00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: All my Children Jeopardy. All the whole board was on

971
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,120
Speaker 4: my time. I cleaned up. I won so heartily.

972
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 1: Who was jennif from another planet? I know totally. I'm

973
00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: like the Glamorama.

974
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 4: Who is Myrtle Farga and Grasp?

975
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 1: Yes?

976
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:44,160
Speaker 4: Literally, I was wild and I was obsessed with that show.

977
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 1: That was my gateway and I feel like it.

978
00:44:46,719 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 4: Has informed everything about how I approached the Housewives. When

979
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 4: we were developing The Housewives of Orange County, I was like, wait,

980
00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 4: they all go to the same tennis club. Okay, so

981
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 4: this is local life, like in Pine Valley. They all

982
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 4: went to the chateau. They all did this, and I

983
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,600
Speaker 4: found what I love about Orange County. I always refer

984
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:13,439
Speaker 4: to it as heritage storytelling. I think I maybe made

985
00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 4: it up, and it's just that our vault on Orange

986
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 4: County is a seventeen year vault. So when Tamra says

987
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:25,399
Speaker 4: this coming season, which is a return.

988
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:27,240
Speaker 1: To form for Orange County, by the way.

989
00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: But when she says, you know, Ryan's had a rough time,

990
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 4: we can flashback fifteen years to Ryan and his stepdad

991
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 4: fighting and you understand. So like you know, on all

992
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 4: my children, they had flashbacks going back twenty years when

993
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 4: I married you, when I said, whatever, the flashbacks the

994
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,520
Speaker 4: returning characters give me Lori Waring stepping in in season

995
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 4: ten and activating Vicky all over again because she married

996
00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 4: the rich guy.

997
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: I love that.

998
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,640
Speaker 4: And I think that the housewives are the modern soap

999
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 4: obray and I think that I always say when we

1000
00:46:04,080 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 4: part ways with a housewife, I always say, you will

1001
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 4: always be a housewife, You'll always be in this community,

1002
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 4: and we will call you back at the right moment.

1003
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 4: I promise you may think it's over right now, but

1004
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,280
Speaker 4: we will bring you back into the game at some point,

1005
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 4: and it's I think it's cool for the viewers. I

1006
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 4: would love it on all my children. When Nina came

1007
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 4: back for a week for a wedding whatever it is.

1008
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 2: It could be like Kendall yes, Hand's daughter, Yes, and

1009
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 2: leave Sarah Michelle Geller and I'm back and someone else Esguel.

1010
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: But it's just so funny. We were in Disney World

1011
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,680
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago and we were walking past.

1012
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,240
Speaker 1: Guys have so much fun.

1013
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 3: I mean not You're literally going to Miami and talking

1014
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:49,200
Speaker 3: about like the pool at the fucking what is it?

1015
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,280
Speaker 1: Like Delana the Standard.

1016
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 4: I know, and I know, I listen, I have I

1017
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,360
Speaker 4: have a lot of fun. I mean I now have

1018
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,280
Speaker 4: two kids, so I trust me I have My fun

1019
00:46:59,360 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 4: is different.

1020
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 3: But it seems like he's bounced it so well, just

1021
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:05,439
Speaker 3: wing from the book like oh so funny to read

1022
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 3: like went to Planet Pride.

1023
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 1: It was fun and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah,

1024
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 1: I left some stuff out of that engine.

1025
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah I'm sure I think it's an entry. That evening

1026
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:17,200
Speaker 2: is an entry. We all are spotty on yeah right.

1027
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 3: I got to say when Gallantis went on, I was

1028
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:20,760
Speaker 3: on another planet.

1029
00:47:20,920 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 1: I think I was too.

1030
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: Well, we were walking in Disney World and there was

1031
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: a huge picture of Kelly and Mark, and every time

1032
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 2: I see them, I just think Kelly and Mattilla, And

1033
00:47:28,960 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 2: then I think, you're such close friends with Kelly and

1034
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 2: such a fan of all my children. Were you a

1035
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:36,000
Speaker 2: friend of hers when she started on the show or

1036
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: was that?

1037
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 4: Like? I met her when she was off the show,

1038
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,160
Speaker 4: and I had been such a big fan of hers,

1039
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: and I remember when she was trying out for the

1040
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 4: Kathy Lee replacement, and I was like, oh my god.

1041
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 4: And the first time I met her, I was a

1042
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,880
Speaker 4: producer at CBS News. She was in the lobby of

1043
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 4: CBS on West fifty seventh Street waiting for someone something,

1044
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:58,359
Speaker 4: and the Daytime Emmys had just happened and she had

1045
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 4: just lost to Heather Tom, who played Victoria.

1046
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 1: Newman on Young and the Restless.

1047
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 4: And I went up to her and I was like,

1048
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 4: first of all, you have to get to Kathy, and

1049
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:10,879
Speaker 4: second of all, I hate that Heather Tom is a bet.

1050
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 4: She didn't deserve any word like I went crazy, and

1051
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 4: Kelly's like, hey guy, anyway. So then I saw her

1052
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 4: years later at Bryant Gumbele's Christmas party.

1053
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 1: It was fourteen years ago.

1054
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 4: We became fifteen, and I was like just licking her

1055
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 4: all over and Mark, and then we became friends, and

1056
00:48:32,480 --> 00:48:35,120
Speaker 4: I was like, I cannot believe I'm friends with these guys.

1057
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 2: Like that picture of them together, They're just glowing and shining,

1058
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: and I'm like, who would ever doubt that this is

1059
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 2: exactly what the show needs to do?

1060
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 4: You know?

1061
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: And Mark is so so totally hot.

1062
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, he is so brutal, and like they are obviously

1063
00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:51,239
Speaker 2: Harry Jack right now, I would bet. And what I

1064
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,839
Speaker 2: love about them is they're so obviously so into each

1065
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:56,799
Speaker 2: other when they have banter all the time.

1066
00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:58,600
Speaker 1: But beyond that, you know what I love about them.

1067
00:48:59,200 --> 00:49:04,680
Speaker 1: They fuck like bunnies, Like they really do. They just do.

1068
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 4: And they've been together for it and they talk a

1069
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 4: long time and they talk about it and we talk

1070
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 4: about it.

1071
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I love it.

1072
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love Yeah, I love You were saying that

1073
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 3: while we were walking past them, you were like, they're

1074
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 3: so hornyny f Yeah, they are free.

1075
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:21,160
Speaker 1: That's one of my favorite things about them.

1076
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 2: And I remember I remember like being a little kid,

1077
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:25,600
Speaker 2: like when my mother, I think I'd be homesick from

1078
00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: school at some point, and like my mother would have

1079
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,400
Speaker 2: All My Children on, and I remember there would be

1080
00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: like steamy scenes between like Helly and Matteo. Those might

1081
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 2: have been like formative for me, all right, when I

1082
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,600
Speaker 2: was like a little kid, didn't you also watch All

1083
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 2: My Children?

1084
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 3: It was one of the only English language shows that

1085
00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:42,759
Speaker 3: my mom would watch Wow in Montreal. We would get

1086
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:44,600
Speaker 3: it in Canada, and like when we moved to America,

1087
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 3: like she would be like, I can hear her in

1088
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 3: her accent saying, all my children I.

1089
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,719
Speaker 4: Have a fetish for. Basically, well, here's the thing. If

1090
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 4: I had to pick a category of porn, like early eighties,

1091
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:06,799
Speaker 4: no just early eighties, the hairdoos and their bodies, and

1092
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 4: those guys on the soaps would.

1093
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,520
Speaker 1: Wear Don diamont on Young and.

1094
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:16,520
Speaker 4: The Restless, Michael Corbett on Young and the Restless, and they.

1095
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 2: From General Hospital. That's his name, Maurice Spur. I was

1096
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: never a big more e Spur, but I do. They

1097
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 2: would all wear speedos all the time.

1098
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:28,120
Speaker 4: And that's where my speedo thing actually.

1099
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,960
Speaker 1: Formative for all of us. Formative the soap.

1100
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 3: My blind spot is for all their soaks except Passions.

1101
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 4: Passion it was huge. Passions was a sci fi so

1102
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,720
Speaker 4: it was it was keys. See.

1103
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 1: I was never a big NBC.

1104
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: So my mother had on the ABC ones because it

1105
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,560
Speaker 2: was it all spoke to each other, like you could

1106
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 2: see the cross over between General and.

1107
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: All my children Valley.

1108
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: I just remember Eric Kane was like the biggest celebrity

1109
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:56,680
Speaker 2: in our home, Erica Cannon, Drean Buffett, which is how

1110
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:57,360
Speaker 2: I came to be.

1111
00:50:57,640 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 1: You're coming to the buffets with me? I would love you?

1112
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: Are you are? You have to let me know, like

1113
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,440
Speaker 1: when you're coming to Hampton's and I'm gonna, I mean,

1114
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 1: that might be the reason I go to the hand.

1115
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 4: You know my Susan Lucci's story, No, I'm gonna tell

1116
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 4: it to you very quickly. It's in my first book,

1117
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:14,520
Speaker 4: Most Talkative Stories from the front Lines of Pop Culture,

1118
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 4: which is my memoir.

1119
00:51:15,800 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: Do you usually have a brand that you sell like

1120
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 2: that's really am I.

1121
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: Usually super schilly? You know? I am sorry anyway? Love it.

1122
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 4: I am such a shill. I will drop any name.

1123
00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 4: I'm such a shell. But what I love it. I'm

1124
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 4: waiting one day to like let my vault open because

1125
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:35,759
Speaker 4: it's doors. But we're picking things up.

1126
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: A you probably have crazy.

1127
00:51:37,360 --> 00:51:38,959
Speaker 4: Shit, but you know what you I have a book

1128
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 4: in print, and I was trying a few years ago

1129
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 4: to get eighty to.

1130
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: Do a diary. I was like, I would love to know.

1131
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,799
Speaker 4: She's so smart and funny and her observations are so good,

1132
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: such a good writer. And I was like, the diary

1133
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,320
Speaker 4: format is, which is what my new book love. I

1134
00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:59,120
Speaker 4: love the diary format and it's inspired by the Andy

1135
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: Warhol diaries, which I loved when I was twenty, and

1136
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 4: I was like that came out and I was like,

1137
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 4: this is everything to me.

1138
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,279
Speaker 1: But it is a license to drop names and talk

1139
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 1: about who you ran into and where you went, and

1140
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: it's like a dishy kibbetsy thing. I digress.

1141
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 4: I was in a newswriting and reporting class at Boston University.

1142
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 4: The assignment was interview a famous person. They said, shoot

1143
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:25,920
Speaker 4: for the stars. I wrote letters to Sam Donaldson's publicist

1144
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 4: and Susan Lucci's publicist. I wrote, must have been the

1145
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 4: gayest letter to Susan Luci's publicist. Long story short. The

1146
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 4: publicist said, Susan will do this with you. I flew

1147
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 4: to New York. She was my first celebrity I ever met,

1148
00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,839
Speaker 4: and you need to know she was like my Madonna.

1149
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,400
Speaker 4: Everything my first diva. Really, I mean Diana Ross was

1150
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 4: my first email, my first TV diva. She was everything.

1151
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,400
Speaker 4: Flew to New York. She came out of the double

1152
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 4: doors at all my children. I was told to go

1153
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,439
Speaker 4: in the lobby, miss Susan Lucci. You have a guest

1154
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,800
Speaker 4: in the lobby. I'm like, they're just Paige Susan Lucci.

1155
00:53:00,880 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 4: She's Susan Lucci. Double doors, open, full length fur coat,

1156
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 4: red knit dressed, red, huge hoop earrings, huge mane of

1157
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:11,640
Speaker 4: eighties hair, nineteen eighty nine.

1158
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: Oh you must be Andrew. I hope you like Mexican

1159
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,600
Speaker 1: food because I'm taking you out to lunch. And there

1160
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,000
Speaker 1: began a whole relationship and we are still. We are

1161
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: still really. Yes, she's a legend. A legend, I mean

1162
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 1: Murka Kane.

1163
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 2: Is the the soap she rus means.

1164
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: Can we call her a villain?

1165
00:53:32,320 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 4: She was? She has was very self centered. The twoth

1166
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,359
Speaker 4: of the matter is she did some really mean shit.

1167
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 4: And during August, when I was on not a vacation

1168
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,600
Speaker 4: with my kids because that doesn't exist, a trip with

1169
00:53:43,719 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 4: my kids in the Hampton's for three weeks, which just

1170
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 4: turned out.

1171
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,280
Speaker 1: To be misery.

1172
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,479
Speaker 4: I was going to bed every night, at like nine

1173
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 4: at night, I discovered there is a treasure trove Why

1174
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 4: I ever doubted it would exist on YouTube of eighties

1175
00:53:56,320 --> 00:54:00,720
Speaker 4: episodes in sequence of all my children and they they're

1176
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: all there, And I was watching watching Lucci's scenes. She's

1177
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 4: so good, and yeah she was. She was a villain.

1178
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:09,640
Speaker 1: She was a bit.

1179
00:54:09,719 --> 00:54:12,359
Speaker 4: She was very self centered and said very nasty thing.

1180
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:14,759
Speaker 4: She was on the show for what fifty years like that.

1181
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 4: I mean, so she had I guess that character had

1182
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 4: to like grow and change. It was a sadday. How

1183
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,440
Speaker 4: did you get the number for the publicer?

1184
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I think I called

1185
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: the ABC studio. I have no idea. Yeah, Jay Molford

1186
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: was the publisher the granularity of detail.

1187
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 4: I remember every moment, and I have the entire interaction

1188
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 4: with Lucci one hour on a cassette tape that I've changed.

1189
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:39,920
Speaker 4: I have it all and once she was on my

1190
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,719
Speaker 4: radio show and I played excerpts of it. It's so

1191
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 4: painful for me to listen to because I'm interrupting her

1192
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,839
Speaker 4: at every second. I am gayer than any human being

1193
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 4: has ever been.

1194
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 1: But she she just went with it.

1195
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,040
Speaker 2: No, I mean, I bet it's like hugely fun especially

1196
00:54:56,080 --> 00:54:57,960
Speaker 2: at that time, like you know what I mean, like

1197
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 2: where it feels like their relationships to fans was different,

1198
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: like nowadays it's like not happening that someone even gets contact.

1199
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,879
Speaker 2: Now you could DM them, but that's like it comes

1200
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: to the whole and.

1201
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: Say, come on my YouTube thing on zoom, like wow,

1202
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,680
Speaker 1: doctor Erica Kane, I guess I love it.

1203
00:55:19,120 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 2: I mean we DMed wendyof live while doing an episode

1204
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:26,160
Speaker 2: of and.

1205
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: At the end of the episode and then it was

1206
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 1: a live booking. That's amazing. That's funny.

1207
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 3: What's the analog to like Warhol because I mean, like

1208
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 3: I'm sure people in the past have like compared it

1209
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 3: to like the Factory.

1210
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 1: Right, like, oh, that's funny.

1211
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,279
Speaker 4: Well, I you know, I've said for years that I

1212
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 4: think war would be painting Housewives at some point or

1213
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 4: doing something. Yes, he was obsessed with making real people famous,

1214
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,840
Speaker 4: and I think if you look at especially those early

1215
00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:54,879
Speaker 4: Orange County, it was a real sociological time capsule that show.

1216
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 4: And Tom Shales, in his review of season one of

1217
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 4: Orange County, said it was a bad review, but he

1218
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 4: said someday people will look at this as a sociological

1219
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 4: time capsule of the nouveau reach living in a certain

1220
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:12,120
Speaker 4: moment in time in Orange County, and it's true, and

1221
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,359
Speaker 4: all their kitchens were the same. Vicky had this big

1222
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 4: piece of like counter art that said Colliente on her

1223
00:56:19,280 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 4: island in her anyway.

1224
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,839
Speaker 3: That's Tom Shale's speaking as like a true historian being yes,

1225
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,359
Speaker 3: this is what it's gonna be like. But you talking

1226
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 3: about like the oh you can like cut back to

1227
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 3: something fourteen seventeen years ago. It's like a four D tapestry,

1228
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,200
Speaker 3: is yeah, like oh you see it, like yeah, incredible.

1229
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 1: Yes.

1230
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,800
Speaker 2: I think my favorite thing about it is that aspect

1231
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:42,280
Speaker 2: and also the because I used to be years ago,

1232
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: I used to be that person who used to say

1233
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,439
Speaker 2: I'll watch anything. I'm just never watching Housewise, right, I'm

1234
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: not maybe kind of that way about the Kardashian right.

1235
00:56:51,400 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1236
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:53,400
Speaker 2: My thing is maybe that was a little bit of

1237
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,759
Speaker 2: like internalized homophobia or something or like whatever it was.

1238
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: But then when I finally started watching it, I remember

1239
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:01,239
Speaker 2: someone suggests it to me that I should start with

1240
00:57:01,320 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 2: Roney season seven when Bethany comes back. Okay, that was

1241
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:05,759
Speaker 2: a great place to start from me because it was

1242
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 2: like happening in motion. It felt like the contemporary version

1243
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 2: of what it was at the time. And also Bethany

1244
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,000
Speaker 2: was Bethany remembering.

1245
00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: I forgot to text Bethany back. She was, do you

1246
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: rapid fire texting me this morning?

1247
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 4: Her texts are like about pow about.

1248
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: Anything relevant to our audience that you're texting with Bethany about.

1249
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 4: She texted me saying, I have the perfect cast for

1250
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 4: a legacy series.

1251
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:29,480
Speaker 1: Text me, what do you think it is? Guess? Guess

1252
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:30,080
Speaker 1: what do you think?

1253
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:32,120
Speaker 2: And I was like on the view at the time,

1254
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: and speaking of the view of New York, I wanted

1255
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:35,200
Speaker 2: to tell you this.

1256
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: I texted you this. I think though there did you

1257
00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:43,479
Speaker 1: say it came from me? He said, I didn't because

1258
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,960
Speaker 1: I forgot who told me I drank.

1259
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:48,600
Speaker 2: With her in the Bahamas? And right, I remember, what

1260
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 2: does she say when you pitched?

1261
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: I said someone, I said, I can't remember who, but

1262
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 4: it was someone of import because I knew it wasn't

1263
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 4: like a.

1264
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:58,200
Speaker 5: I know who.

1265
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,000
Speaker 1: Has strong opinions.

1266
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 4: That's what I said, said that you should be on Ronnie,

1267
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:05,640
Speaker 4: and she said those girls.

1268
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: Couldn't handle me and that's why.

1269
00:58:07,840 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 4: But then she said, which is a good And then

1270
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 4: she said something like I'm conflict of her certain.

1271
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,400
Speaker 1: That's not true. Here's exactly why it's not true.

1272
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: And this, I'm gonna tell you, this internut shell, is

1273
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: why she should be a housewife, because here's the thing,

1274
00:58:22,040 --> 00:58:24,280
Speaker 2: and you're talking with Bethany, and I almost feel like

1275
00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:27,480
Speaker 2: this would be beneficial for her too in a perfect world.

1276
00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:30,760
Speaker 2: There was a day on the View where Meghan McCain

1277
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: was spouting off about doing her thing.

1278
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: And Sonny Bethany comes to.

1279
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 2: Bethany comes up and Sonny goes, you know, she wasn't

1280
00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,919
Speaker 2: very nice to my kids and Meghan, And then Sonny goes,

1281
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: I'll tell the story. We had a house next to

1282
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,320
Speaker 2: each other in the Hamptons. Bethany screamed at my kids

1283
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,240
Speaker 2: and said to stop making noise at the beach during

1284
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 2: the day. So I walked over there and knocked on

1285
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,400
Speaker 2: the door, and I said, if you have a problem,

1286
00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: you don't scream at my kids, you come to me.

1287
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: And then on Watcher happens live beth and he said, yeah,

1288
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,240
Speaker 2: I think she's got a drug problem or a drinking

1289
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:10,840
Speaker 2: problem or something. And thus is my point. This Sonny

1290
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 2: was doing Housewives right there.

1291
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: She was staying on camera got a very good point.

1292
00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 1: And also she would glamour.

1293
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a professional, she engaged in her own life.

1294
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,680
Speaker 4: I have to say the new cast, they are all professionals.

1295
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,920
Speaker 4: They have jobs, the Glamour, they have great apartments.

1296
00:59:31,040 --> 00:59:33,160
Speaker 1: Well, Jenna Lyons is Jendal Lions giving.

1297
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:38,600
Speaker 4: She's giving, She's fascinating, She's a fascinating character, and she

1298
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 4: drives a lot of story without meaning to.

1299
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay.

1300
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:44,280
Speaker 2: Also the other reason why I think Sonny would be

1301
00:59:44,280 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 2: greatest because when we did the View in the Bahamas,

1302
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: I reve down there and I think it was like

1303
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 2: right after we did our last watch for that life together.

1304
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Speaker 2: But we went down there and it was so surreal

1305
00:59:55,720 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 2: because don't you agree, they were all exactly on game.

1306
00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 2: They were all being exactly what you think.

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01:00:01,840 --> 01:00:04,600
Speaker 4: Yes, by the way they I had a dream that

1308
01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:07,400
Speaker 4: I put in the book. I dreamt one night that

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01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 4: I was executive.

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Speaker 1: Producer of the View.

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Speaker 4: And I woke up the next morning with all these

1312
01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 4: great ideas for the View, and I called a friend

1313
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 4: of mine at ABC who works kind of with the View,

1314
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 4: and I said, look, just I'm giving you these so

1315
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 4: joy today on the View said, so you want to

1316
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,840
Speaker 4: be our executive producer and I said yeah, And I said,

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01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 4: you know, with all do I executive produced The Housewives,

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01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:30,479
Speaker 4: I don't think it's much different executive producing this show.

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01:00:30,600 --> 01:00:33,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, have you read that book about the View?

1320
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:38,000
Speaker 4: I mean it's like, yeah, it's kind of The Housewives

1321
01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 4: as a talk show in a way.

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01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:42,560
Speaker 2: The only thing I think that separates them is that

1323
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,840
Speaker 2: I think the women of the View. And I've gotten

1324
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Speaker 2: this from Sonny sometimes when like Megan would talk about it.

1325
01:00:47,560 --> 01:00:49,920
Speaker 2: And you know who else really likes the Housewives is

1326
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 2: I think Elisa Farah Griffin.

1327
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: Yes, she does.

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01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 2: And I get the sense that Sonny feels like a

1329
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 2: little superior about it, like, no, I'm not doing that,

1330
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:58,880
Speaker 2: and that is why we need her on it.

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01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, what do you think is like the barrier, the

1332
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 3: self imposed barrier on people who are like that's not

1333
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 3: for me.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think the most common reason we lose housewives

1335
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 4: who we are excited about. And by the way, we

1336
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 4: failed in integrating Roney.

1337
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 1: That was a horrible fail. Bad tell you about Ebony.

1338
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 4: I'm saying that it took that long, and but what

1339
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 4: you need to know is we had been more every season,

1340
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,400
Speaker 4: there were people and that it is the most common

1341
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 4: reason we lose people husbands. At the end, there was

1342
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,040
Speaker 4: someone so great that we almost had I think in

1343
01:01:40,080 --> 01:01:43,479
Speaker 4: Bethany's either first season back or second as long ago

1344
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 4: as that, we were really on it and trying every season,

1345
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,840
Speaker 4: and this amazing person would have been so huge.

1346
01:01:49,880 --> 01:01:52,200
Speaker 1: The husband first that I will not appear at all.

1347
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 4: We were trying to negotiate, and then he stopped her

1348
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 4: from doing it. But that is the most common barrier.

1349
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 4: And then secondly, I think for someone like Sonny Austin, look,

1350
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,760
Speaker 4: she's one of the stars of the views, she kind

1351
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 4: of doesn't need it.

1352
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:05,880
Speaker 1: She certainly doesn't it.

1353
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,040
Speaker 4: If she left the view or if that ended, then

1354
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,240
Speaker 4: maybe she might say, oh, I think this could be good,

1355
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 4: could do such.

1356
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,440
Speaker 1: It's a nice addition to her. Yes, exactly.

1357
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: But when speaking of the husbands, I just really wanted

1358
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:22,640
Speaker 3: to tell you this because it really educated me. I

1359
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 3: guess is the whole robin thing where I was like, oh,

1360
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:29,080
Speaker 3: I thought there was always this carefully calibrated distance between

1361
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 3: like what the housewives want to share about their lives

1362
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,520
Speaker 3: and what they don't like, And I thought like that

1363
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 3: was an agreed upon thing like for everyone involved, like

1364
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 3: just whatever you want to share. We won't like bust

1365
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 3: in there like and like force things out of you.

1366
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 3: But like watching that interview on whatchra Happens Live, I

1367
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,560
Speaker 3: was like, no, this is this makes total sense, Like

1368
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,400
Speaker 3: she had this is her job.

1369
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 4: Well, but especially since the entire season was about the

1370
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,640
Speaker 4: women accusing everyone of infidelity and she had gone through it.

1371
01:02:57,680 --> 01:02:59,960
Speaker 1: And by the way, it would have been so relatable

1372
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:00,680
Speaker 1: if she had.

1373
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:04,280
Speaker 4: Said, you, guys, I don't really want to talk about

1374
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:08,520
Speaker 4: the specifics, but I busted one like dming with someone

1375
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 4: and here's how it affected me. So this is serious,

1376
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,600
Speaker 4: what's going on and whatever. Like everyone would have been like,

1377
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 4: oh my god, that was so cool that.

1378
01:03:15,520 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: You share, you know.

1379
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a fan perspective that we have. The

1380
01:03:19,120 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: Green Eyed.

1381
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: Bandits have flown too close to the sun. I know

1382
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:22,840
Speaker 1: you're very upset.

1383
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:26,400
Speaker 2: It is Andy, No, I'm not. I am very upset,

1384
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:29,120
Speaker 2: but I also I stand with many people. Yeah, we

1385
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 2: just here's what I think. It's fine when you have

1386
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 2: a housewife that is a producer type, you know what

1387
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: I mean, They're on the ground and they know how

1388
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 2: to get it when they think that makes them invisible

1389
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 2: and they don't have to like participate as well, but.

1390
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:46,080
Speaker 1: It's so conpaticuous it's not even invisible. Well, it's like

1391
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,680
Speaker 1: you said, it's sweaty. It's sweaty. It's like sweaty, sweaty.

1392
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 2: It's Giselle thinking, yeah, I know, the producers whatever, I

1393
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 2: can do what I want. What I think is that I.

1394
01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 1: Think she thinks she has special sway with the producers.

1395
01:04:03,040 --> 01:04:06,480
Speaker 3: I think that she probably sees herself more in like

1396
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:08,480
Speaker 3: on their level than with the rest of.

1397
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,520
Speaker 1: Oh interesting, I don't know.

1398
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 2: You know.

1399
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 1: The thing about Potomac that you have to remember is

1400
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,280
Speaker 1: those are almost all of g yes. So you've got

1401
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:22,080
Speaker 1: four of them, Yeah, Karen, Giselle, Ashley Robin, who have

1402
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 1: been on since day one, since forever, So it's hard

1403
01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 1: to put one apart.

1404
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:32,040
Speaker 2: It feels like Potomac has been our favorite tries and

1405
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:37,000
Speaker 2: I think that, Like what's hard is seeing the Wendy

1406
01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:39,360
Speaker 2: and Candice get pushed to the point where they won't

1407
01:04:39,360 --> 01:04:42,680
Speaker 2: even speak to Wendy. I see that, and that to me,

1408
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 2: would only happen with someone who thought they were better

1409
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 2: than the show, because if you didn't think you were

1410
01:04:47,960 --> 01:04:49,920
Speaker 2: better than the show, then you would play with other

1411
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: cast members. But Jazelle won't look at Wendy, she won't

1412
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 2: engage with Wendy, she won't tolerate Wendy, she won't allow

1413
01:04:57,360 --> 01:04:59,120
Speaker 2: other people to do it. And now it's rubbed off

1414
01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 2: on Robin, who I think does sort of like feel

1415
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: like a little bit of a lackey to Giselle. I

1416
01:05:04,480 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 2: know it's like people say that whatever there, they're both

1417
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:10,440
Speaker 2: their own people, but like it feels like not.

1418
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 4: What I will say is that I think you'll be

1419
01:05:13,360 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 4: surprised by some stuff that's happening right now.

1420
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 2: Field, Okay, okay, we just we ride hard for wind.

1421
01:05:19,480 --> 01:05:20,960
Speaker 2: We don't want to see her get ignored.

1422
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: I don't either. Yeah, good, there's there's been internal notes.

1423
01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 1: See and grab my hand. Can we speak up? When

1424
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: we speak up when things happen to happen. All we

1425
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:32,640
Speaker 1: have to do is the fan community is keep making

1426
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 1: our voices her now. And that's with voting. That's with Housewives, Yes,

1427
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: voting is the answer.

1428
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,520
Speaker 2: My favorite thing about Housewives, though, is the way that

1429
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,680
Speaker 2: these women like and it's actually helped me in my life,

1430
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: the way they navigate conflict styles.

1431
01:05:48,280 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: I actually, I will be honest with you.

1432
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 2: I used to be the kind of person who would

1433
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 2: not say how say something was bothering me. Watching Housewives,

1434
01:05:56,600 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 2: I saw people explain why they're feeling a certain way,

1435
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 2: and I said, maybe I'll never act like that, and

1436
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 2: maybe I would act like that. I think it's like

1437
01:06:06,080 --> 01:06:09,320
Speaker 2: sometimes it becomes inexplicable why you're on one housewive side

1438
01:06:09,320 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 2: and don't like another. It's like with Teresa and Melissa.

1439
01:06:12,120 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 2: I know from growing up in that part of the country.

1440
01:06:15,800 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 2: I get Melissa. I get her a lot. Teresa triggers

1441
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 2: me because it's everything about people I grew up with

1442
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 2: that I can't.

1443
01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 1: Stand you're that woman, I do.

1444
01:06:26,080 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 4: I think that what's interesting about Teresa and Melissa are

1445
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 4: not interesting. The way they were going at each other

1446
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,160
Speaker 4: at the reunion, which will premiere in a couple of weeks.

1447
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,560
Speaker 4: They were doing that thing in fighting where they each

1448
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:42,800
Speaker 4: wanted to have the last word, and it was taking

1449
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:45,480
Speaker 4: it was wasting so much time. It's like, no, you did, no,

1450
01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 4: you did. Oh you're ugly, you're ugly, You're ugly. I'm like,

1451
01:06:48,880 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 4: this is you're it was. It was upsetting to me.

1452
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:54,920
Speaker 4: Anderson pointed out to me the other day I was

1453
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,439
Speaker 4: in a situation with someone who actually was a guest

1454
01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 4: on Watch What Happens Live, and I went in their

1455
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,680
Speaker 4: dressing room before the show, and I don't want to

1456
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 4: say it wasn't a confrontation, but I felt like we

1457
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 4: needed to work something out before they came on the show.

1458
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:10,480
Speaker 4: It was kind of like when you came and you

1459
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,640
Speaker 4: were like, I feel like I upset you or whatever,

1460
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:13,600
Speaker 4: and we talked it out.

1461
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: It was someone that Anderson said.

1462
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 4: I cannot believe that you had that conversation before the show.

1463
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:23,360
Speaker 4: He goes, you have been in the middle of so

1464
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 4: much conflict that you have no problem now right just

1465
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,920
Speaker 4: getting to the heart of it and saying, look, we

1466
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:30,520
Speaker 4: need to resolve this issue whatever.

1467
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,360
Speaker 1: I think it's even helpful for me.

1468
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 2: I honestly, if you vocalize shit, it does I definitely care.

1469
01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 2: I felt like it's given me a way to have

1470
01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:42,240
Speaker 2: a model for conflict resolution.

1471
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I really And you also know how not

1472
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 1: to do it right.

1473
01:07:45,840 --> 01:07:48,240
Speaker 3: Yes, I was going to say, and I think this

1474
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 3: is a great thing. I feel like I've noticed this

1475
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:54,120
Speaker 3: trend where I feel like you lose your patience more.

1476
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 3: The threshold is lower now. At reunion, I was.

1477
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: Talking about this last night.

1478
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:04,480
Speaker 4: I think I do I think I'm more free. Listen,

1479
01:08:04,520 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 4: I've been doing raised reunion.

1480
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: I think it's.

1481
01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 4: Seventeen years doing these thousands and thousands of hours for real,

1482
01:08:11,640 --> 01:08:14,200
Speaker 4: and so I think that I'm just more comfortable. I

1483
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,960
Speaker 4: don't think that it is a good look for me

1484
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:18,879
Speaker 4: to be yelling at women period.

1485
01:08:19,280 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: I don't like it.

1486
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:24,200
Speaker 4: I always wind up apologizing to them ten times, I'm

1487
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 4: so sorry yelled at you. I apologize. Jersey, I was like,

1488
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:30,559
Speaker 4: I'm so sorry yelled at you. I was upset. Whatever.

1489
01:08:30,920 --> 01:08:33,240
Speaker 4: I don't like it. It doesn't make me feel good.

1490
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 4: It's not who I am. It's not the best representation

1491
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:39,160
Speaker 4: of myself. So I think you're right. I have become

1492
01:08:39,400 --> 01:08:41,400
Speaker 4: closer to losing my shit.

1493
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:43,639
Speaker 3: But I think it's a way to release the valve

1494
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,840
Speaker 3: because you only ever do it when it really gets

1495
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 3: so ca confidence that we have to relieve this.

1496
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:52,880
Speaker 4: But I also will say to the sometimes I'll get

1497
01:08:52,920 --> 01:08:56,080
Speaker 4: a cut and I'm just like blasting off at them.

1498
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 4: I'm like, if we're going to keep this in, can

1499
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 4: you show the moment leading up to this so that

1500
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 4: you see, you know that this wasn't just.

1501
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 1: Out of nowhere.

1502
01:09:04,240 --> 01:09:06,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, you have to know that we are in that

1503
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 4: Thunderdome for ten plus hours of this.

1504
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 2: It's intense, especially when it's a conflict such as the

1505
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:18,799
Speaker 2: one with Melissa and Theresa, where it's just entirely too

1506
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,080
Speaker 2: at this point, and it feels like every time someone

1507
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:23,640
Speaker 2: is asked about it, I watching What Happens Live or

1508
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 2: even on the cast of Real Housewives of New Jersey,

1509
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 2: everyone's just kind of like, yeah, they shouldn't speak any.

1510
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:29,960
Speaker 1: Right, No, that's how I feel.

1511
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 4: I mean, Teresa is still bringing up shit that happened

1512
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:35,560
Speaker 4: before Melissa came on the show, and they're both litigating.

1513
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 4: And the interesting thing is, I think they're both a

1514
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,920
Speaker 4: little right about stuff. I mean, I don't think there's

1515
01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:45,080
Speaker 4: a clear side, which is why, by the way, it's

1516
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 4: still kind of interesting, because there's no necessarily right or wrong.

1517
01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:55,120
Speaker 3: If you, Matt take your cultural background for lack of

1518
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 3: a better career amount of it, then I guess, like

1519
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:58,719
Speaker 3: objectively you might.

1520
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 2: I would still okay. So if I'm looking at the

1521
01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,639
Speaker 2: situation objectively and.

1522
01:10:02,600 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 3: I am, I don't even I agree with you, by

1523
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 3: the way, Like I'm not super keen on Teresa.

1524
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 2: I don't like even to say I'm team Melissa, and

1525
01:10:10,040 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 2: I think something that gets lost like in the thing

1526
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:14,639
Speaker 2: of like you know, you go and watch what happens

1527
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 2: live and like you want to say something that's fun

1528
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:19,120
Speaker 2: and like, you know, push the show along. And yeah,

1529
01:10:19,160 --> 01:10:21,679
Speaker 2: of course I appreciate and get how to do the show.

1530
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:24,240
Speaker 2: But my thing is, it's almost it's like this with

1531
01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:27,280
Speaker 2: the Green I advantage to to be honest. Every single

1532
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,760
Speaker 2: year I turn on the show, I really try to

1533
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,040
Speaker 2: have an open mind, right, and I root for Teresa.

1534
01:10:32,240 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 2: How could you not watching from season one? How could

1535
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 2: you're not root for Teresa. This is another reason why

1536
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,160
Speaker 2: I did. I don't think so, honey Gia, because she's

1537
01:10:40,200 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 2: like going up for her father, her father who called

1538
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:45,360
Speaker 2: her mother on television. I'm like, this woman has been

1539
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:47,559
Speaker 2: through hell. She went to prison for this man.

1540
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:48,320
Speaker 1: Probably.

1541
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:50,400
Speaker 2: Look, I mean it's Teresa. Does she know what she

1542
01:10:50,479 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 2: was doing was wrong? No, she wasn't thinking about it.

1543
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 2: She trusted someone, and to see her become this unmoving

1544
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,000
Speaker 2: figure that had there's a lot of like negative energy

1545
01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 2: around it, and I find Louis to be very negative,

1546
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,519
Speaker 2: bad energy, and I don't think it's going in the

1547
01:11:07,600 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 2: right area. I'm not even looking at Andy as I

1548
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:12,599
Speaker 2: say this, but I did in my conversation with Melissa

1549
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:15,720
Speaker 2: and Joe, they seem worried too, and it's just like

1550
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:19,400
Speaker 2: I'm sad for Teresa. Okay, I understand there's a fan

1551
01:11:19,439 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 2: base that thinks that you can't have Jersey without Teresa,

1552
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 2: But I would argue that Delores is the star of

1553
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 2: New Jersey right now, and Doris is one of my

1554
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:28,519
Speaker 2: favorite housewives and I enjoy watching her.

1555
01:11:28,720 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 1: I think Frank needs to get a grip.

1556
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: But Frank, I love Frank grip, I feel for I

1557
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 2: like Frank.

1558
01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:38,400
Speaker 1: I love Frank, and I do feel for him.

1559
01:11:38,479 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: But also it's like, you can't demand anything of this one.

1560
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 1: She's already given you more than you deserve.

1561
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:48,680
Speaker 2: Also, I mean, like in one of the most vulnerable

1562
01:11:48,720 --> 01:11:50,679
Speaker 2: moments of her life, but she's raising a newborn.

1563
01:11:50,720 --> 01:11:52,760
Speaker 1: Where do you stand with Frankie Jr? Where do I

1564
01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:55,519
Speaker 1: stand with Frankie Junior? In terms of what I don't know?

1565
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: Like how horny am I?

1566
01:11:57,920 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 4: Yes?

1567
01:11:58,240 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty horny?

1568
01:11:59,160 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 4: Right?

1569
01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 2: I mean you see the way I react to like Evan,

1570
01:12:02,040 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 2: I miss Jackie.

1571
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:04,920
Speaker 1: I love Jackie. She's still obvious.

1572
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:06,880
Speaker 4: I love jack But like, you know what, there's a

1573
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:10,719
Speaker 4: moment in the book where you say she's on the show.

1574
01:12:11,000 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 1: She was on Watch What Happens Live, and I knew.

1575
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:15,680
Speaker 4: I knew that we were demoting her the next day,

1576
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,200
Speaker 4: and I felt so bad because I really like her

1577
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:23,360
Speaker 4: and I find her eating disorder struggle really very honest,

1578
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 4: honest and women, and I helped a lot of women.

1579
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 4: I just thought it was as deep as we've gotten

1580
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 4: into that topic in a serious way, and I just

1581
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 4: thought it was so valuable. And the next time I

1582
01:12:36,240 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 4: saw her, she said, you know what, I'm gonna be the.

1583
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: Best friend that's ever been on that show. She's been

1584
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,559
Speaker 1: a great friend. And I always love seeing Evan.

1585
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 3: So going back to the thing where you when a

1586
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 3: housewife leaves and you're like, you will always be a

1587
01:12:49,920 --> 01:12:52,640
Speaker 3: part of this, right, I'll bring you back. Is it

1588
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 3: because you're seeing like the total grand expanse of this,

1589
01:12:56,439 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 3: like and it's just.

1590
01:12:56,960 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: Well, I just know how it works. I just know

1591
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:01,759
Speaker 1: through through the years.

1592
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 4: I mean when when Rinna left, you know, I was like, look,

1593
01:13:05,680 --> 01:13:08,360
Speaker 4: I I was saying to her, I hope this is

1594
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,519
Speaker 4: a pause, you know, And I think, you know, sometimes look,

1595
01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:14,479
Speaker 4: if you're getting booed at Bravo Kan, then it's a

1596
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,760
Speaker 4: toxic relationship. You I mean, I don't know if you

1597
01:13:17,800 --> 01:13:19,519
Speaker 4: got to this part, but you know that the night

1598
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,680
Speaker 4: of the reunion.

1599
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:25,720
Speaker 1: Of Beverly Hills, she texted us all and quit. She

1600
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:29,200
Speaker 1: texted all the p I think that's something no one

1601
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:30,320
Speaker 1: knows that people think.

1602
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 4: That she was but she did. She did quit. Whether

1603
01:13:34,400 --> 01:13:37,360
Speaker 4: she still wanted to quit later, I don't know. I

1604
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:39,639
Speaker 4: never discussed it with her again. But I think also

1605
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 4: she saw that day, Wow, this is really heavy, you

1606
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 4: know this, And I.

1607
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: Don't think she wants to be the villain. She's really fun.

1608
01:13:47,720 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 1: I mean she is, right.

1609
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,519
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, if you anyway, so I you know,

1610
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 4: I said to her, I hope this is a pause.

1611
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, I said, that's a worsha too. I mean, you know,

1612
01:13:57,400 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 1: I just you know, I have conflicted feeling is about Portie, right, yeah.

1613
01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,600
Speaker 1: I think she started out strong on you GT and

1614
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:05,479
Speaker 1: then by the end I was like, why are you

1615
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,559
Speaker 1: aligning with Giselle?

1616
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:13,840
Speaker 4: I just they're good friends from right, Yes, So that's right.

1617
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:17,080
Speaker 3: Yes, And speaking of someone who's been on pause, I

1618
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 3: think there is a pathway back.

1619
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: Yes for everyone. By the way, we would come back

1620
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:35,320
Speaker 1: and do the show anytime. I want you to. I mean,

1621
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 1: we want it together.

1622
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:38,519
Speaker 2: We want to come together. I wants to be on

1623
01:14:38,680 --> 01:14:40,760
Speaker 2: the Housewife. Who's your dream housewife?

1624
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:43,439
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this is a good question. Just come

1625
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:44,800
Speaker 1: up with I've gotten We're gonna make it.

1626
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 3: Marissol. I want Marisol solo.

1627
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:50,439
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean?

1628
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:53,559
Speaker 3: No, Alexia, fine, yes, I'm not saying that's not a demand.

1629
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:56,400
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, like, so I need to see that's

1630
01:14:56,439 --> 01:14:57,080
Speaker 3: your preference.

1631
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 1: Good, okay, good, Well then we need to do that.

1632
01:14:59,680 --> 01:15:01,600
Speaker 1: I want beyond with Tamra. I think we have a

1633
01:15:01,680 --> 01:15:02,160
Speaker 1: lot of fun.

1634
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:04,800
Speaker 2: Yes, I think that's hams Tamara and I would camera

1635
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,080
Speaker 2: similar Camra.

1636
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 4: There's a whole sequence in the book about negotiating how

1637
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,280
Speaker 4: we were gonna announce Tamra's return, and she was coming

1638
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,200
Speaker 4: and watch what Happens Live with Vicki, and we didn't

1639
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:16,880
Speaker 4: want to hurt Vicky's feelings and Tamara get in a

1640
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 4: big fight.

1641
01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: It's a whole Michigan that happened for me. Tamra, and

1642
01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:23,320
Speaker 1: then I would really like to be on with Kyle.

1643
01:15:23,439 --> 01:15:26,320
Speaker 2: Beverly Hills is my favorite and Kyle's protagonist to Beverly Hills,

1644
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,240
Speaker 2: and I love Cott Richards.

1645
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,800
Speaker 3: I would love to go on with Taylor. Taylor and

1646
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 3: I would have similar energies. Armstrong, you and Taylor. Arm

1647
01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:33,440
Speaker 3: I find her so interesting.

1648
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:34,920
Speaker 1: Is she getting an orange?

1649
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 2: No, she's a friend, I know, but there was rumors

1650
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 2: that she did so well that she got the orange.

1651
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:39,559
Speaker 1: She's a friend.

1652
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,640
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, everyone, she did not get the orange, but

1653
01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:44,880
Speaker 2: probably did a great job.

1654
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 3: I'm trying to like, go, I'm not going for the

1655
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,040
Speaker 3: obvious choice, and maybe that's working.

1656
01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,760
Speaker 2: You're going for friends up, yeah, because you want to

1657
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:50,840
Speaker 2: sit in the chair next to Andy.

1658
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 3: I no, no, no, no, no, no, that's not It's just

1659
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,880
Speaker 3: it's just like, I'm like, these are people that I'm

1660
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:54,919
Speaker 3: like currently fascinating.

1661
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,600
Speaker 4: By the way, if there is a lady and a

1662
01:15:57,680 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 4: man on watch what happens live the woman all Absolutely

1663
01:16:01,320 --> 01:16:02,479
Speaker 4: that's what always happened.

1664
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:06,519
Speaker 2: So yes, do you remember when I was on? I

1665
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 2: think it was we were on together.

1666
01:16:08,680 --> 01:16:09,320
Speaker 1: We're together?

1667
01:16:09,640 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 2: No, when we were on together, the people coming in

1668
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 2: after us was Garcel and Heather right dubro and we

1669
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:16,720
Speaker 2: helped you with the seating arrangement for.

1670
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:23,680
Speaker 4: That, and that was because Heather had seniority, she had

1671
01:16:23,720 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 4: been on the longest. But original also look at where

1672
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 4: did they sit the last time they were on. And

1673
01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 4: then you also look at sometimes of a housewife is

1674
01:16:35,200 --> 01:16:38,080
Speaker 4: on with like a big star, you put the star

1675
01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,720
Speaker 4: next to you. Yeah, okay, And then sometimes like right

1676
01:16:41,720 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 4: now Vander Pump Rules is on, So tonight Katie Maloney

1677
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:52,880
Speaker 4: is on with Karen Gillen from you know, Vander Pump

1678
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:56,280
Speaker 4: is so hot and they're also superstars. Right now Katie

1679
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:57,599
Speaker 4: Maloney sat next.

1680
01:16:57,479 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 1: To you know.

1681
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,040
Speaker 4: Here's the thing makes me nuts and this should be

1682
01:17:02,080 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 4: my rant, but it does make me.

1683
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,400
Speaker 1: There are two guests. There are only two chairs, so

1684
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 1: there's no A chair and B chair. There's no emotion,

1685
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,559
Speaker 1: there's no sect Well no, I.

1686
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:14,800
Speaker 2: Mean, Andy, it doesn't matter who sits in the front chair.

1687
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 2: Then why you're talking about it, Well, because you guys

1688
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 2: brought it up and I'm explains I think it matters. Okay,

1689
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:24,960
Speaker 2: but what about the Reginia seating? We agonize over it.

1690
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,400
Speaker 1: And camps it is.

1691
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:29,760
Speaker 4: The people next to me are the people in the

1692
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,479
Speaker 4: most conflict, that have been in the most drama. There

1693
01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:34,800
Speaker 4: are house sides like Candy who do not want to

1694
01:17:34,840 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 4: sit next to me because that means they're going to

1695
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 4: be in the hot seat.

1696
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:38,759
Speaker 1: By most of the reunion.

1697
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,720
Speaker 4: A lot of times though people say, like for Potomac,

1698
01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:44,760
Speaker 4: they all sat down there, like, we don't understand this

1699
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,679
Speaker 4: seating arrangement. There are people who you also can't seat

1700
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:50,160
Speaker 4: next to each other because they give each other so much.

1701
01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,040
Speaker 4: And also you want for camera angles if people if

1702
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,439
Speaker 4: you and I are in a dispute and we're sitting

1703
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,599
Speaker 4: next to each other, the camera angle is it we're

1704
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 4: just looking at each other the whole time. You want

1705
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,840
Speaker 4: them to be looking at each other directly, so you

1706
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:07,679
Speaker 4: put them on opposite couch so it's.

1707
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:10,000
Speaker 2: Less to do with these are the stars of the

1708
01:18:10,080 --> 01:18:12,439
Speaker 2: season and more. Okay, okay, I had a different way.

1709
01:18:12,479 --> 01:18:13,559
Speaker 2: By the way, vander Pump.

1710
01:18:13,720 --> 01:18:17,560
Speaker 4: I think vander Pump sat next to me once on

1711
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:18,479
Speaker 4: on Beverly Hills.

1712
01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:22,120
Speaker 1: I think, huh yeah, yeah, that's a fever dream I

1713
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: have as lvp. There used to be there were many

1714
01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:31,040
Speaker 1: reunions where we would anticipate that a housewife was going

1715
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:34,679
Speaker 1: to be so mad when they came out and saw

1716
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 1: where they were sitting, and I would sit there and

1717
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 1: kind of watch their reaction and is it oh yes,

1718
01:18:42,160 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yes.

1719
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:49,240
Speaker 3: It's producing on so many micro levels, and that's what's

1720
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 3: like astonishing to me.

1721
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:53,400
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, it is what you do. Yeah, it's weird,

1722
01:18:53,520 --> 01:18:54,080
Speaker 1: it's crazy.

1723
01:18:54,240 --> 01:18:56,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, this might be the wea talking, but I'm like,

1724
01:18:56,840 --> 01:19:00,120
Speaker 3: I can't even begin to imagine.

1725
01:19:00,160 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 2: It's like playing chess but with real people. But also

1726
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,800
Speaker 2: there's like a filter before you make a move, you

1727
01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 2: know what I mean. It's like you're not making a

1728
01:19:08,479 --> 01:19:10,759
Speaker 2: move for yourself, You're making a move for someone else's.

1729
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:11,160
Speaker 4: You know.

1730
01:19:11,240 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's your mind.

1731
01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 3: It's chess with real people, and you have to like

1732
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:18,439
Speaker 3: like them properly. You have to like design the board

1733
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 3: or whatever. You know.

1734
01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: Interesting. Okay, Okay, this is I don't think so honey.

1735
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,719
Speaker 2: This is our sixty second segment that we take every

1736
01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,920
Speaker 2: episode to rail against something in pop culture that we

1737
01:19:29,960 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 2: are just not feeling at the moment and we feel

1738
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 2: needs to be dragged to hell. I do have something,

1739
01:19:35,200 --> 01:19:37,120
Speaker 2: and I feel like, because didn't get to see the

1740
01:19:37,160 --> 01:19:39,000
Speaker 2: light of day on television, it should happen right now.

1741
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: Okay, do it. This is Matt Rogers. I don't think

1742
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:42,680
Speaker 1: so many as time starts now, I.

1743
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 2: Don't think so, honey, giya, And it's not even really

1744
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:46,240
Speaker 2: her fault.

1745
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 1: It's an extension.

1746
01:19:48,240 --> 01:19:50,640
Speaker 2: Go with me, please to a few episodes ago on

1747
01:19:50,680 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 2: Real Housewives in New Jersey when Teresa was sitting with

1748
01:19:54,080 --> 01:19:57,759
Speaker 2: her kids and not only encouraging a discussion about Melissa

1749
01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,920
Speaker 2: and Joe, but involving yet an another one of her

1750
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:04,080
Speaker 2: children in the dynamic to talk on camera about this

1751
01:20:04,160 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 2: about their family. Cut to Melissa and Joe. What do

1752
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 2: they do to Antonia? They say, please go into the house.

1753
01:20:09,479 --> 01:20:12,240
Speaker 2: This is not for you. I'm sorry, but I don't

1754
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,720
Speaker 2: think so, honey. One of those people, and I do

1755
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:19,080
Speaker 2: think so, honey. The other and I don't understand people

1756
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: on Twitter who act the way they act on behalf

1757
01:20:22,920 --> 01:20:25,920
Speaker 2: of Teresa and she says nothing, and that does not

1758
01:20:25,960 --> 01:20:26,880
Speaker 2: get brought up in NTE.

1759
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:28,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey.

1760
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,280
Speaker 2: The fact that I sit next to Melissa and I

1761
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:34,120
Speaker 2: get death threats. It's wild to be Melissa on social

1762
01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:35,760
Speaker 2: media is a hellscape.

1763
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:36,840
Speaker 1: And what does Teresa do?

1764
01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 2: She says nothing, but she expects Melissa to leave when

1765
01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 2: they're at an event and she's uncomfortable. It's bullshit, And

1766
01:20:42,880 --> 01:20:43,439
Speaker 2: I don't think so.

1767
01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:44,240
Speaker 1: That's one minute.

1768
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 3: I've been using this term more often lately, just as

1769
01:20:47,880 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 3: it's being overused in like the zeitgeist. But it is

1770
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:54,160
Speaker 3: like I think Teresa's affliction is like just thinking she's

1771
01:20:54,200 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 3: the main character in every situation.

1772
01:20:56,160 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 2: She is wild And I'm sorry, but look, it's one

1773
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:04,680
Speaker 2: thing to be in a conflict on the show and

1774
01:21:04,720 --> 01:21:06,960
Speaker 2: to have a difference of opinion. But if you're going

1775
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:09,759
Speaker 2: to break through the sand and find a little things,

1776
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: there's one huge thing, which is that Melissa and her

1777
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,719
Speaker 2: family get social media bullied like no one else.

1778
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,800
Speaker 1: I would say Jersey, by the way.

1779
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 4: The Jersey Twitter since the beginning, the people what they

1780
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 4: used to say to Caroline Manzo, like, I mean, it's

1781
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,600
Speaker 4: been really the the Jersey fans on Twitter from the

1782
01:21:30,640 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 4: beginning have been really brutal.

1783
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,840
Speaker 2: It's well, and I think that's like one thing where

1784
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:37,240
Speaker 2: it's like that doesn't really get brought up on Jersey

1785
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:37,559
Speaker 2: that much.

1786
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:40,919
Speaker 1: And I actually Joe and Melissa for not going actually

1787
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:42,960
Speaker 1: of course came up on the reunion this well, and

1788
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,679
Speaker 1: maybe it's time that it does. Isn't making it in

1789
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:46,080
Speaker 1: the cut.

1790
01:21:46,840 --> 01:21:49,920
Speaker 4: I am seeing everything tomorrow, okay, in fact, so I'll

1791
01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:50,400
Speaker 4: let you know.

1792
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:53,400
Speaker 2: That's going to be a really tough one. Really tough one.

1793
01:21:53,479 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 2: Is that's mine and it has less to do with you, Gia.

1794
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,519
Speaker 2: It's just that you don't understand I think, and I

1795
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:02,679
Speaker 2: think you will later that this isn't a healthy thing

1796
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:05,080
Speaker 2: for you. And you're getting in a full beat to

1797
01:22:05,120 --> 01:22:07,080
Speaker 2: be in confessionals, And can I say something?

1798
01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:09,120
Speaker 1: You look stunning.

1799
01:22:09,200 --> 01:22:11,240
Speaker 2: This is Bowen Yang's I don't think so, honey, And

1800
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:14,880
Speaker 2: he's galvanized and high as fuck, and he's gonna do it.

1801
01:22:14,880 --> 01:22:16,560
Speaker 1: Are you ready? I'm ready? Are you gonna do the

1802
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:17,840
Speaker 1: one you said? I'm gonna do the one I said?

1803
01:22:18,120 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: Here we go.

1804
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,280
Speaker 3: This is Bowan yangs I don't think so many as

1805
01:22:20,280 --> 01:22:23,880
Speaker 3: time starts now, I don't think so, honey. Gizelle Bryant,

1806
01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:29,800
Speaker 3: I mean, you're basically a fucking scullery maide, scouring the

1807
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:32,880
Speaker 3: dirty pots of everyone else's lives when those pots aren't

1808
01:22:32,880 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 3: even that dirty, do you know what I mean? Like

1809
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:38,840
Speaker 3: the classe azul thing is like so fucking bored face,

1810
01:22:39,280 --> 01:22:41,800
Speaker 3: And this is a person, it's so sad. This is

1811
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 3: a person who like looks at herself in the mirror

1812
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:48,120
Speaker 3: in such a way that like she cannot possibly see

1813
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 3: herself reflected back. She does no sense of who she is,

1814
01:22:51,439 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 3: and she is she's just bored. She's as simple as

1815
01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 3: that logic. She's simple as that logic, Gizelle. I mean,

1816
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:05,839
Speaker 3: it is just talking to fill the silence at certain points.

1817
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:10,559
Speaker 1: It is I don't know. She's a fucking like pimple

1818
01:23:10,640 --> 01:23:15,520
Speaker 1: on the backside of this show. I fucking hate.

1819
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:17,760
Speaker 3: Her and I would be so thrilled if she were

1820
01:23:17,800 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 3: never on my television again. But I know that's not

1821
01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:21,040
Speaker 3: gonna happen, so I've accepted that.

1822
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,400
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. Here's the thing. I always have

1823
01:23:23,439 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: said she has stark quality, but I disagree. You don't

1824
01:23:26,160 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: think she has stark wise. I think it's sweaty this.

1825
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:30,559
Speaker 1: We've had this discussion starfore I ever seen.

1826
01:23:30,680 --> 01:23:33,479
Speaker 3: I think I think she's at one point was his

1827
01:23:33,680 --> 01:23:36,960
Speaker 3: star I have, and then I think she like it

1828
01:23:37,080 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 3: was slipping from her at some points, very editable. It's

1829
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 3: like that challenge on Survivor when you have to hold

1830
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 3: a position, you have to hold a fucking ore on

1831
01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 3: your head for like four hours, you start to wobble

1832
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 3: a bit.

1833
01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:48,879
Speaker 1: She's wobbling. She's wobbling.

1834
01:23:48,960 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 2: I think that she and I always feel like they

1835
01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:54,040
Speaker 2: try to humble her and they try to comfort her,

1836
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,960
Speaker 2: but she she just like doesn't move or doesn't care,

1837
01:23:57,439 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 2: and then I'll say the moments and what I really

1838
01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 2: like her is she opens up and like I really

1839
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:03,599
Speaker 2: love her with her kids because.

1840
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 1: You can tell.

1841
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:06,679
Speaker 2: And that's the thing is, I'm like, maybe I would

1842
01:24:06,840 --> 01:24:09,479
Speaker 2: like you more if, like I felt like you were

1843
01:24:09,560 --> 01:24:11,680
Speaker 2: as authentic with the rest of the limit and with

1844
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 2: the audience as you clearly are with your children, because

1845
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: there's something happening behind closed doors when the cameras aren't

1846
01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:20,040
Speaker 2: on that like allows you to have this like incredible

1847
01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 2: bond with them.

1848
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,320
Speaker 1: I'm just wondering at what point, Yeah, yeah, I know

1849
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:27,960
Speaker 1: you can probably say nothing about this. Watch next season

1850
01:24:28,040 --> 01:24:31,360
Speaker 1: a Potomac if she like, if she goes on a journey,

1851
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm so thrilled to go on that journey with her.

1852
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:38,679
Speaker 1: Me too, me too? Okay, you ready for mine?

1853
01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1854
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:39,759
Speaker 1: Okay?

1855
01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:42,560
Speaker 2: Now, Andy Cohen, you've never gotten to do one. No,

1856
01:24:43,080 --> 01:24:45,160
Speaker 2: and there's been a couple of times where like, especially

1857
01:24:45,280 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 2: live just kidding, I would never do this. Maybe I

1858
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 2: would like when we were on with you, I was like, Andy,

1859
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 2: you do one, and then you would have had to

1860
01:24:51,320 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 2: live whip one out.

1861
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: I know, so to speak. Well, mine is based on

1862
01:24:55,880 --> 01:25:00,080
Speaker 1: something that happened earlier in the broadcast. I don't think so,

1863
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 1: this is Andy Cohens.

1864
01:25:04,439 --> 01:25:06,360
Speaker 2: I don't think so honey. As time starts now, I

1865
01:25:06,439 --> 01:25:09,920
Speaker 2: don't think so honey. I am not high on Watch

1866
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,160
Speaker 2: What Happens Live night.

1867
01:25:12,320 --> 01:25:15,639
Speaker 4: When the show comes on, people think I'm stone because

1868
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:16,280
Speaker 4: my eyes are.

1869
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 1: Red half the time. I have allergies. I'm a Jew.

1870
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:22,720
Speaker 4: I wear contacts, I have shpilkis with my eyes. I'm

1871
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,800
Speaker 4: not funny high. I mean I'm funny off camera high.

1872
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:28,320
Speaker 4: But I would never go on camera high. It would

1873
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 4: be a bad show. I would be in my head,

1874
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:33,720
Speaker 4: it would be poor. I don't do it. I talk

1875
01:25:33,760 --> 01:25:35,640
Speaker 4: about it all the time. I would never do it.

1876
01:25:35,640 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 4: It would be a disservice to Bravo. It would be

1877
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:40,759
Speaker 4: a disservice to you, the viewers, the listeners.

1878
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:41,880
Speaker 1: I do not do it.

1879
01:25:42,360 --> 01:25:44,240
Speaker 4: Was there a time on New Year's Eve with Anderson

1880
01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 4: where maybe I popped an edible after midnight?

1881
01:25:46,680 --> 01:25:50,880
Speaker 1: Yes? I did, Okay, big deal. I would never do

1882
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 1: it on camera. It's not me.

1883
01:25:53,800 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 4: Maybe Amy Sedaris and I have taken an edible on

1884
01:25:56,200 --> 01:25:58,519
Speaker 4: radio and y for our holiday hangout.

1885
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:02,439
Speaker 1: That's it. Unwatched What Happens, I don't think so, Honnie,

1886
01:26:02,600 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: I'm not. I. Oh, that's one minute.

1887
01:26:05,120 --> 01:26:07,800
Speaker 3: You do describe in the book taking an edible to

1888
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:10,519
Speaker 3: time it so that right as you go home, you're like,

1889
01:26:10,640 --> 01:26:11,320
Speaker 3: it hits.

1890
01:26:12,720 --> 01:26:15,800
Speaker 4: During the second commercial break of the show, which means

1891
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:17,880
Speaker 4: there's four minutes left in the show, and then we

1892
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:22,599
Speaker 4: have a very quick after show. I occasionally will take

1893
01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:25,599
Speaker 4: my edible and then when the after show is ending,

1894
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,120
Speaker 4: or I'm kiddetzing in the control room, I'm like, oh, this.

1895
01:26:29,280 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 1: Is nice, and I glide away perfect.

1896
01:26:31,560 --> 01:26:35,720
Speaker 3: But I also I'm gonna say, is that even so bad?

1897
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:38,040
Speaker 3: But I feel like you're such a professional you would

1898
01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 3: never do this. But like, it's not like a hostile thing.

1899
01:26:42,000 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: It's not like a thing. No, at it's a lot

1900
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:46,040
Speaker 1: to manage.

1901
01:26:46,080 --> 01:26:47,960
Speaker 4: But also I want to do a good job, and

1902
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:52,200
Speaker 4: I'm working for a big corporation and I respect my

1903
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:54,280
Speaker 4: relationship with them and with the viewers.

1904
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,160
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to be bad. Now, if

1905
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:58,280
Speaker 1: we did a show.

1906
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,920
Speaker 4: We did watch What Happened Live from l A a

1907
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 4: few times and weed was legal in California, and I

1908
01:27:05,240 --> 01:27:07,800
Speaker 4: went to the exec cassette Bravo and said, I want

1909
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,000
Speaker 4: to take an edible at the beginning of watch What

1910
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,640
Speaker 4: Happens Live when we are live on the air and

1911
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:16,080
Speaker 4: watch What Happens Live and it's a host ever done

1912
01:27:16,080 --> 01:27:20,240
Speaker 4: an edible on TV? Face, Yes, it would be amazing

1913
01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:22,920
Speaker 4: and I and there was some reason why I couldn't

1914
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,560
Speaker 4: do it. You know, maybe I'll be able to do it.

1915
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,479
Speaker 4: I tried to do it on CNN when they said

1916
01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 4: we couldn't drink this year, I was like, I'm gonna

1917
01:27:29,760 --> 01:27:33,320
Speaker 4: take it that. I'm so stupid. Come on.

1918
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,000
Speaker 2: Also, not for nothing, but everyone in New York City

1919
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 2: hated Deblasio. What is this person gonna get in trouble?

1920
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:38,559
Speaker 1: Begause?

1921
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 2: I don't.

1922
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,920
Speaker 4: I don't think it was as much about my rant

1923
01:27:44,040 --> 01:27:47,320
Speaker 4: on de Blasio as much as it seems like CNN

1924
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 4: is just trying to rain every bit of personality and

1925
01:27:52,720 --> 01:27:53,920
Speaker 4: so I don't.

1926
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,080
Speaker 1: Know that's the dounlemit of it all.

1927
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 3: It's like they're like, we can't, like everyone needs to

1928
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:01,839
Speaker 3: be like in the middle, like literally that behaviorally politically.

1929
01:28:01,880 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 3: I hope we can drink this year, yeah, because I mean, listen,

1930
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,040
Speaker 3: I hope you're both okay with me. I feel like

1931
01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:07,960
Speaker 3: I've managed it okay.

1932
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:09,680
Speaker 1: Amazing, but it.

1933
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:11,680
Speaker 4: Made me think of it because when you said, oh,

1934
01:28:11,720 --> 01:28:14,000
Speaker 4: I'm a little high whatever, and I was thinking because

1935
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,040
Speaker 4: I was trying to think what mine was going to be,

1936
01:28:16,280 --> 01:28:18,760
Speaker 4: and I was like, oh, this is perfect because everyone.

1937
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:20,800
Speaker 1: Always thinks I'm high, but I'm not.

1938
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:23,599
Speaker 3: You were brilliant. You're also getting ship in your ears. Yes,

1939
01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,799
Speaker 3: your brain is like semi scrambled.

1940
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,760
Speaker 2: No matter what we you know, when we do this

1941
01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:30,960
Speaker 2: high when we're just by ourselves, Yeah, when we just

1942
01:28:31,080 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 2: have episodes, that's just Bowen and I and I'm sure

1943
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,920
Speaker 2: like incredibly big and it's a completely different vibe.

1944
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: But like we would never it's not languid when when

1945
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:40,160
Speaker 1: we're both high, it's not like we're like slow, right, No,

1946
01:28:40,439 --> 01:28:43,760
Speaker 1: it's it's sharp and we're doing handstands.

1947
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,480
Speaker 2: But speaking of incredibly brilliant and sharp and doing handstands,

1948
01:28:48,960 --> 01:28:51,280
Speaker 2: you stunt on everybody in this goddamn business.

1949
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 1: True, and you're the best in the biz, and we

1950
01:28:54,120 --> 01:28:57,400
Speaker 1: do the best in the viz. One. Wow, this is

1951
01:28:57,520 --> 01:29:00,640
Speaker 1: such a huge day for us that you can't You

1952
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: guys are so nice. Maybe for reading the book. I

1953
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 1: really appreciated. Now, thank you, thank you for having me.

1954
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:10,320
Speaker 1: This has been really fun.

1955
01:29:10,439 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: No, I mean, this is just the beginning, and this

1956
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,840
Speaker 2: is Last Coach, and we end every episode with a song.

1957
01:29:16,560 --> 01:29:20,480
Speaker 2: Miss really think complain refers to conversation.

1958
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 1: Just mean that's not what you want. Love you girl.

1959
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: I don't do back and forth. I wanted on the

1960
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:29,599
Speaker 1: plank on the plane. I want to hear the rest

1961
01:29:29,640 --> 01:29:32,960
Speaker 1: of that. You can stream deep space, the little position.

1962
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,760
Speaker 1: My god, that is so funny. Bye Bye,