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Speaker 1: Hello, prince, look at you?

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Speaker 2: What up?

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Speaker 1: I love it?

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Speaker 2: What up?

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Speaker 1: I love that you're bringing it.

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Speaker 2: Look when I'm wearing a printed shirt and a red lip.

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Speaker 2: You know, the bitch is tired and I'm trying. Do

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? You just know the bitch

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Speaker 2: is tired and I'm trying. I started doing this thing

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Speaker 2: where I feel like I'm walking like an old person.

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Speaker 2: Like you get up and you get up slow, and

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Speaker 2: you're like, you gotta stretch it out, you know what

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Speaker 2: I mean. You gotta shape the legout. You gotta like

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Speaker 2: get I'm that person in an airplane that has to

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Speaker 2: do like low budget yoga by the bathroom door.

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Speaker 1: Well, you're supposed to get up every thirty minutes on

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Speaker 1: a plane, That's what they say. You're supposed to who

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Speaker 1: is who?

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Speaker 2: I think the vacation starts, even if it's a work trip.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: When you're packing, try to have fun packing because it's

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Speaker 2: so annoying.

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Speaker 1: Who.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I go to Target and I get a fresh

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Speaker 2: pair of panties. I'm just like, ooh, baby, who am

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Speaker 2: I going to be with this high waisted control top thong?

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Speaker 2: Did you know you can get a high top thong?

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Speaker 2: That's where it's at because I've never been able to

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Speaker 2: find my belly. But when I sit down. Since the

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Speaker 2: third grade, I did not know high top control thong.

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Speaker 1: I thought you could just get like a mid or

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Speaker 1: something like that, or a cross China. But now you're

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Speaker 1: telling me you can get up. That's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: What is your What does your wife wears? She into

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Speaker 2: like the little boy shorts.

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Speaker 1: Into boy shorts and things like that. She likes to

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Speaker 2: Why do you always turn it into jingle jangle when

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Speaker 2: we talk about personal I'm trying to be better, Okay,

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Speaker 2: great trying. I love this for us.

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Speaker 1: I went to Lejon provocatur for her and got her

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Speaker 1: some really good stuff last Chistmas. And I think it's

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Speaker 1: really kind of like it's definitely nudged the canoe.

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Speaker 2: And nudge the canoe? Does that? Does that mean make

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Speaker 2: you dick hard? What isn't nudge it the canoe? I'm

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Speaker 2: not from Texas, I'm from Jersey.

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Speaker 1: The canoe just means pushed things in a direction to

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Speaker 1: my life.

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Speaker 2: What are we pushing and where?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm just kidding. I'm at the point my life We're like, yes,

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Speaker 2: do we really need underwear. Like, if you're gonna wear

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Speaker 2: something short, okay, but at that point the bike shorts

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Speaker 1: It a look.

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Speaker 2: But like, yeah, this is why I kind of had

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Speaker 2: a mute Lizzo on Instagram because what's she do? I

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Speaker 2: love Liszo. I love Liszo and I love her body positivity.

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Speaker 2: But when I open up my phone in public and

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Speaker 2: I'm looking at Instagram, sometimes it's just Lizzo's ass clapping

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Speaker 2: like a standing ovation at the Oscars, just clap, clap, clap, clap, clap.

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Speaker 2: And I it's not that I don't love it. I do,

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Speaker 2: but I can't do it in public, and I don't

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Speaker 1: No, you're just out here just broadcasting.

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Speaker 2: I'm just out here willing to I'm vintage, honey, Yeah, vintage.

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Speaker 1: Look over her shoulder on a plane.

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Speaker 2: Okay, broadcasting my business meanwhile broadcasting her business.

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Speaker 1: Us. It's a lot of amazing, you know, uh, charged

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Speaker 1: what are these feelings? You know what I mean? I've

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Speaker 1: never am I wrong.

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Speaker 2: I love a booty that will swallow you whole. That's

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Speaker 2: that's the best I think we found the name for

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Speaker 2: this episode. You truly just like, oh it's so fun

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Speaker 2: to clap clap, you butt, And I'm just saying like

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Speaker 1: Like truly a celebratory expression.

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Speaker 2: In episode one of a great show i'd like to

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Speaker 2: call survival, the thing is mmmm heard of it starring

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Speaker 2: me Michelbytee. All episodes now on Netflix. I twerk in

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Speaker 2: episode one.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, I can't remember. If you work on a wall?

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Speaker 2: I put my hands on the ground and my feet

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Speaker 2: on the Wallah, you talk on the wall, and so

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Speaker 2: I wall to.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: It's very fun.

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Speaker 1: That was such a funny, funny scene, That whole thing

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Speaker 1: that happens at the beginning when you just get wild.

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Speaker 1: You have the wild night out with my man, Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, what's his name? Yes? Humore, love humore, same humore,

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Speaker 1: same humore and more. That was so spech Oh my god.

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Speaker 2: Do you ever have those nights? Do you ever have

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Speaker 2: those nights where you're just like I didn't mean to

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Speaker 2: because you have kids and a really cute wife with

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Speaker 2: cute underwear. But do you remember back in the dizzy?

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Speaker 2: Oh god, I don't even know if you have, have

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Speaker 2: you ever? Because I've never seen you drunk? And I

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Speaker 2: talk about this all the time.

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Speaker 1: You say this all the time. You've never seen me.

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Speaker 1: You've never seen me drunk. So I hide and I

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Speaker 1: I'm on a rooftop. Leave me alone. Yes, I've been wasted, Okay,

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Speaker 1: in New York City, I have debated taking the garbage

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Speaker 2: People that don't live in New York, I haven't visited

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Speaker 2: And all of a sudden, the train you see like

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Speaker 2: hop on. This is my only chance to go somewhere.

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Speaker 2: You don't know where it goes. It's like, no, bitch,

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Speaker 2: you're not running from the law. Please don't do that.

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Speaker 2: You're not a ghost in the movie Ghost, so stop,

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Speaker 2: don't do it.

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Speaker 1: Oscar the Grouch is the conductor. He's waving you on.

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Speaker 1: He's like what you're waiting for. I'm like all the stops.

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Speaker 2: It is giving Emmy Award winning sessme place realness. When

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Speaker 2: you see the garbage train, You're just like, garbage is

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Speaker 2: a g word? Is the letter of the day?

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Speaker 1: What's the letter? What's the letter? What's the letter? Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, we've been overdosed. We should serve too much

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Speaker 1: sesame Street in this life, you know what.

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Speaker 2: And I feel like there's never enough sesame Street. Also,

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Speaker 2: I was watching Sesame Street in Holland, the Dutch Sesame Street,

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Speaker 2: and god, what color is big bird? I think big

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Speaker 2: bird is like blue or purple.

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Speaker 1: No, no, big bird, big bird is pretty Everybody in

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Speaker 1: the comments please tell us what color big bird is.

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Speaker 1: big bird is canary yellow.

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Speaker 2: Of course, it's he's a Mario, Okay. In America, right,

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Speaker 2: But in Holland, I think he's blue or purple. I'm

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Speaker 1: No, I don't. I hate that. I hate that for them.

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Speaker 1: I feel like they're being deprived and that's just that's

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Speaker 2: No, Actually yellow is like wasn't yellow like one of

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Speaker 2: Like it's supposed to keep you calm. Yeah. I vaguely

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Speaker 2: remember my parents having this argument when I was little,

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Speaker 2: I just get a peanut butter and jelly that much

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Speaker 1: Things we remember the letter of the day. What's the letter?

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Speaker 2: Do you remember watching your parents argue, not all the time,

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Speaker 2: but like at least like one or two times, and

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Speaker 2: be like I want to jump in there. Are they okay?

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Speaker 2: Mom's really got this? Why is Dad being a dick?

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Speaker 2: Or like, can you just wrap it up so I

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, there was always a threshold that they never crossed.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow.

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Speaker 1: When they fought, and they did fight, you know, but

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Speaker 2: Did they ever raise their voices to each other in

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Speaker 2: It's hard not to argue in front of three kids.

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Speaker 2: It's like, yeah, damn, they're always here.

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Speaker 1: They're always here. We're always listening to the to the

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Speaker 1: I had to learn, you know, marrying into this family,

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Speaker 1: creating this family yelling is way down on the list

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Speaker 1: of alternatives. Yeah, way down. Although I will say, I

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Speaker 1: know we're doing good because you always just need to

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Speaker 1: look at other parents. We were in the Berkshires and

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Speaker 1: we saw these parents get threatened by their children, like physically.

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Speaker 2: Wait, the parents threatened the children, and the children threaten.

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Speaker 1: Oh, the children. They threatened the parents. That's how it went. See,

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Speaker 1: we were up there. Let me back up. We went

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Speaker 1: because her mom's lovely and she was babysitting the kids

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Speaker 1: while we went to dinner in town in Hudson, New York.

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Speaker 1: I won't put you on blast outs in New York. Now, Hudson,

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Speaker 1: New York is basically if Bushwick tilted on its side

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Speaker 1: and slid into upstate New York. That's basically it.

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Speaker 2: Eh, well, do the research everyone.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna kill you. Oh what kindness?

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Speaker 2: Witzel the Man, the myth, legend behind the Machine. Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 2: Hi guys, Hi, this is so exciting.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Today, Jordan, thank you for inviting me. I felt so special.

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Speaker 3: I was like, what me on the podcast? Are you crazy?

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Speaker 3: It's very exciting, It's overwhelming in all the right ways.

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Speaker 3: So let's just get into it. Let's do it.

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Speaker 2: Let's I feel like I know a lot about you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you do. I think you do.

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Speaker 3: Let's say, I mean, let's just get into it, Let's

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Speaker 1: Is there a question you always wanted to ask Danielle

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Speaker 1: that you were afraid to that you said? Niche? Niche?

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Speaker 2: Not now, no, no way. But what I will say,

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Speaker 2: I just got to Netflix. I don't know if I

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Speaker 3: Wow, it's not exactly what went down, but I just

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Speaker 3: we couldn't be closer. It's your podcast. But I'm just

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Speaker 3: to be fantastic. And she's even better than I imagined.

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00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 3: The goosies, as Michelle would say, I got the goosies.

434
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,200
Speaker 3: And I've been doing this for a long time. I've

435
00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:30,600
Speaker 3: been making television for twenty years, and you don't always

436
00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:33,480
Speaker 3: have that feeling, but I knew it instantly. So very

437
00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 3: grateful to be partnered with you.

438
00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,880
Speaker 1: Oh my god, you too.

439
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 2: I know it's a wedding speech at every turn, Jordan,

440
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:43,800
Speaker 2: do you understand I love it.

441
00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,840
Speaker 3: I could only say it if I meant it. I

442
00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:47,199
Speaker 3: couldn't say it if I didn't mean it.

443
00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:48,879
Speaker 2: Well, that's what I love about you too. If you

444
00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 2: don't mean it, you you ain't mean it.

445
00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 3: We know that's true.

446
00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 2: It really has been a masterclass watching Danielle in all

447
00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 2: Zoom meetings, because like I'm in New York, she's in

448
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:04,160
Speaker 2: La Zoom meetings for sort of like fighting for what's right,

449
00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:07,000
Speaker 2: fighting for what you need, figuring out a middle ground.

450
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot to get to, but we

451
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,520
Speaker 2: are fresh out of what seems like a very long

452
00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,640
Speaker 2: year of negotiation. Yes, you were on the negotiation committee

453
00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:22,000
Speaker 2: for the writers build. Yeah, no, wrong answer. What was

454
00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:22,359
Speaker 2: that like?

455
00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 3: It was a lot. I mean, I'll be honest, there

456
00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 3: was a lot. There were about twenty of us between

457
00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 3: West and East, plus our officers and the co chairs

458
00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:32,800
Speaker 3: of the negotiating committee. And I have never done anything

459
00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 3: like that before because I like to sit on my

460
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 3: couch and watch Ninety Day Fiance and do nothing to

461
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 3: really affect the world in any sort of positive way

462
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 3: about you know, when a friend of mine who's one

463
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 3: of the officers in the West, asked me to do it.

464
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 3: We were right in the midst of making you know,

465
00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,960
Speaker 3: I was in Brooklyn shooting, so I love the thickest

466
00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,359
Speaker 3: and you know, Michelle and I were really experiencing and

467
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,520
Speaker 3: Grace Edwards, who was a writer who was there with us,

468
00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 3: and really everyone, I mean the whole crew was affected

469
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 3: by some founding things that we needed that we didn't have.

470
00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 3: That meant and look, I think this is true in

471
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 3: so many industries, right meant being overworked, meant being too

472
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 3: many you know, it was too many hours of work

473
00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 3: where too few people were being asked to do too much,

474
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,040
Speaker 3: very talented people. We ended up with a great season one.

475
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 3: You know, we were living in the reality of doing that,

476
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:20,919
Speaker 3: and so I think it's why I said yes. Otherwise

477
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 3: I would have stayed on my couch watching Nine to

478
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,879
Speaker 3: Day Fiance. Look, I still have time to do it.

479
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 3: I schedule it. It's so good, Yeah, so good. But

480
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 3: you know, I think obviously, as you know, and Michelle's

481
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 3: a hyphen it sag Aftra was brave enough to walk

482
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 3: out too. And I think I'm only a member of

483
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,080
Speaker 3: the one union of the writers Guild. I feel like

484
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,919
Speaker 3: we got what we needed and we are now in

485
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,760
Speaker 3: partnership with these studios and really moving forward in a

486
00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:46,760
Speaker 3: positive way. I mean I'm feeling that directly. I work

487
00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 3: at Netflix. Our show is at Netflix, but I also

488
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,199
Speaker 3: develop and you know, work on projects for them, and

489
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 3: I feel that the partnership is really strong, and that

490
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,720
Speaker 3: there was an understanding of how kind of streaming changed

491
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 3: the business and how we needed to correct and you know,

492
00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:05,760
Speaker 3: it feels good to have fought for something one something

493
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: and also feel like it was received, you know, on

494
00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 3: the other side of the negotiating table and went, Okay,

495
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,440
Speaker 3: we understand this is how we're going to need.

496
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 2: To do it.

497
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,960
Speaker 3: Because I think negotiations at their best are not a

498
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: lose win, They're a win win, right, that's the best

499
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:20,800
Speaker 3: version of it. And I think, you know, these are

500
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: the studios that make the shows we want to make,

501
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 3: that make Michelle a TV star and the star of

502
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:28,359
Speaker 3: so many things on Netflix, you know, so many things,

503
00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:30,480
Speaker 3: and so we want to be in business with these people,

504
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 3: and we just want to get what we need foundationally.

505
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: And I think that that's what, you know, all of

506
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 3: the brave writers and actors who were willing to make

507
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 3: a big sacrifice were able to say and look, again,

508
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,920
Speaker 3: I don't want to speak for actors, I'm not one,

509
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 3: but as a writer, I can say I feel like

510
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,119
Speaker 3: that we really did get games that are kind of

511
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 3: understood industry wide. So I'm really it feels like a

512
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:56,080
Speaker 3: good way to, you know, be able to move forward

513
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:58,200
Speaker 3: out of what was a really hard time for so

514
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 3: many people.

515
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Speaker 2: Yeah. We're just used to it. Yeah, we're just used

516
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,719
Speaker 2: to just doing it, doing all the work, showing up

517
00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:08,240
Speaker 2: for free flying ourselves out, saying yes to the dress.

518
00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: Oh it's just a quick favor. All of a sudden

519
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 2: we're overwhelmed. We can't get it done, and we can't

520
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,119
Speaker 2: even get money when we ask for even though we

521
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,679
Speaker 2: can do it. It's insane, But now it feels like

522
00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 2: win sanity because we're winning, and it's also insane. What

523
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:22,280
Speaker 2: was the first show that you were a shortrunner on?

524
00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:24,919
Speaker 3: Carmichael Show? The Carmichael Show with Drad Karmicle.

525
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Jordan has a question because I just

526
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,600
Speaker 1: wanted to just just a point of order. You're on it.

527
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay.

528
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 1: The listeners they might not know what a show runner is.

529
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 2: Oh yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

530
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 1: So forget to find that.

531
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Speaker 3: Oh shortan, do you want to tell us?

532
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:40,919
Speaker 4: Oh?

533
00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: You want me to tell you?

534
00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: I want in your own words? What does it mean

535
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: to you? Because you are that?

536
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 3: You know, showrunners and television are writers. They're writers. They're

537
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 3: often creators of shows or like Michelle and my situation,

538
00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,360
Speaker 3: a co creator of a show. They may not have

539
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,320
Speaker 3: anything to do with creat the show. Also, so Carmichael,

540
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:03,240
Speaker 3: I did not the Charmical Show. I did not create

541
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 3: Nick Stoller a drug. Carmichael, Rik Sher and Willie Hunter

542
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 3: created that show and I was hired after a pilot

543
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: was shot. But basically, the showrunner is going to be

544
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 3: like the head writer, but not in a people might

545
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,639
Speaker 3: know that term from like SML. You know, it's the

546
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:21,160
Speaker 3: person who's going to ultimately be in charge of the show.

547
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,199
Speaker 3: Be in charge of pre production when you're coming up

548
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,400
Speaker 3: with stories and you're working with writers, Be in charge

549
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: of production when you're working with cruise and you know

550
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:31,679
Speaker 3: all these talented you know, department heads and directors to

551
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 3: actually make the show and going to run posts, be

552
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:37,520
Speaker 3: in charge and post when you're working with talented editors.

553
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:40,800
Speaker 3: And so it's the person that is kind of ultimately

554
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,840
Speaker 3: someone has to make decisions. Those decisions might be influenced

555
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,400
Speaker 3: by a creator star like Michelle is and so you're

556
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: making those, you know, decisions in concert with someone who

557
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 3: is the engine of the show, whose show it really is.

558
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,880
Speaker 3: Carmichael was Jirag Carmichael's show. I was there, loved it,

559
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,520
Speaker 3: so proud of what we did, but always recognized that

560
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 3: was his show. And Survival of Thickest is Michelle Bytoe's show.

561
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 3: That is Michelle Bato's show. I am a big part

562
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 3: of it. I'm so proud to be a big part

563
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,200
Speaker 3: of it. But show running, you are the writer who

564
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: is leading the whole process.

565
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: Can I just also say, I mean what she's leaving out.

566
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 2: What Danielle has said is true. It is very black

567
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: and white. But what you don't see until you're in

568
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 2: it is like the little shades of grain between where

569
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: you are constantly putting out fires. You are everybody's fucking therapists,

570
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:30,199
Speaker 2: the writers, the talent, the people paying. You have to

571
00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 2: figure out how to talk to people.

572
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:32,439
Speaker 4: You know.

573
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: That's why I understand why people might lose their shit.

574
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: That's why I understand why a lot of writers are

575
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,359
Speaker 2: bolding introverts. Look, you don't have to have kids to

576
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: understand what it's like to fucking take care of people. Yeah,

577
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 2: because it is twenty five hours a day, and like,

578
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: I didn't even understand what a showrunner did. It's sort

579
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 2: of like driving or like having a dog, or like

580
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 2: fishing or whatever the fuck it is. Like you see

581
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: people do it, you're with them, and you're just like, Okay,

582
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: this is how I would do it differently, you know

583
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 2: what I mean, And you get in that fucking seat

584
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh fuck, so what's like the one

585
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: thing that was like a huge learning curve where you're

586
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 2: like that took me out. I didn't understand that part

587
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,280
Speaker 2: of it where the fuck we are.

588
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's such a good observation that you're

589
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 3: that you're making and look you are so clearly even

590
00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:19,040
Speaker 3: though I am the showrunner, we really ran that show together,

591
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 3: so you really got an intimate. I gave Michelle at

592
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,919
Speaker 3: the beginning of the show together. I said, there's an

593
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,840
Speaker 3: A option, B option, CEE option as you know everything,

594
00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 3: B as you know most things, and C as I

595
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 3: only tell you what you need to know. And she

596
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 3: picked to credit A. We wrote we rode with A,

597
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 3: which her knowing everything, so she really, you know, we

598
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 3: really were, you know, to give Michelle credit doing this

599
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 3: in concert together. But I think the thing that's crazy

600
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 3: is so I'm a career comedy writer, not that drama

601
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 3: writers necessarily are going to have better leadership skills, but

602
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 3: I will say comedy writers don't necessarily have good leadership skills. Right,

603
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:56,359
Speaker 3: It's not what gets you in the door, it's not

604
00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 3: what gets you hired, and shows you do not have

605
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 3: to you know, like it's not a requirement of the

606
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,399
Speaker 3: job to be really great at the job, to be

607
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: great at it, because you spend a whole career being

608
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 3: on staff. So like most shows have somewhere in the

609
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 3: neighborhood of ten writers, you know, or that police and broadcast.

610
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:13,000
Speaker 3: That's how we used to do it, and you know,

611
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 3: and it's so like you're there, You're coming up with

612
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: stories and you're you know, you're pitching jokes, and you're like,

613
00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: it's that's what your whole focus is. And then all

614
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: of a sudden someone hands your show and the next

615
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: day you were in charge of everything. And I think,

616
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 3: to answer your question, the first difference I felt. So

617
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: you're usually at a round table, like literally a round

618
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,919
Speaker 3: shaped table in the writer's room, just so you can

619
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: see everybody and ask what it is. And so you're

620
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: used to being you know, I'm joking around and I'm

621
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 3: making fart jokes in the corner and all this stuff

622
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 3: and like waiting for, you know, to be told, well,

623
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 3: what's the assignment? What are we doing? And the first

624
00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: time I was at the head of the round table

625
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 3: and everyone was looking at me to be like, so,

626
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 3: what are we doing now? I was like, oh my god.

627
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 3: Every day I'm going to have to come in and

628
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 3: lead this charge and say what direction we're going in

629
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: and what is the task for the day, and like

630
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 3: what are we getting done? And that just having different

631
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 3: perspective at a table I had spent you know, at

632
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 3: that point, I don't know, seventeen years of my career whatever,

633
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: sixteen years of my career on like a slightly different

634
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 3: part of that roundtable. Just to be the one to

635
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,840
Speaker 3: have ten people look at you and be like, so,

636
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: what's happening today? It's like, oh my god, And five

637
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 3: days a week, I'm going to have to come in

638
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 3: and be like, so, here's what's happening today. If you

639
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 3: get used to that skill, but the first time everyone's

640
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,160
Speaker 3: staring at you, You're just like, why are you looking

641
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 3: at me? Like, oh my god, I'm in charge?

642
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: Oh my god. That's how it feels making dinner every day,

643
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, fuck your home.

644
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 3: I don't have kids, so I don't know. I don't

645
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 3: know that pressure.

646
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 1: Would you still have to feed yourself?

647
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 3: Not in Brooklyn? I'n nice a week?

648
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: So here's the question. Do you like to in the

649
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 1: day early? Do you like to stay up like it's

650
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 1: sequester jury, Like what do you like to do?

651
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: That's also part of my question too. How does this

652
00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: affect your personal life? How do you have a relationship

653
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: with yourself and your husband? If you're taking on the

654
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 2: energy of so many people. Not only is it a

655
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 2: good question, it's the question.

656
00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 3: You know. There's a thing called the Showruner's Training Program

657
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 3: and the Writer's Guild, and I went through it luckily,

658
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,400
Speaker 3: which was which was great, amazing. Anytime I go in

659
00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:12,560
Speaker 3: and talk often showrunners are coming and talking to showrunners,

660
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,440
Speaker 3: you know, or people who are about to be showrunners.

661
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 3: That's the question. It's so what's the balance, what's the

662
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 3: work life balance? And the last time I spoke, the

663
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 3: last time I spoke in that group, I straight up cried.

664
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 3: I am not a public crier, but I'm awed my

665
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 3: eyes out to ten showrunners or future shore runners, and

666
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 3: it was bad. I was just like, you know, it

667
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 3: was so bad, but I had so much emotion coming

668
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: from you know, after we made Seasons one of Survival,

669
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: and you know it just the truth is like, that's

670
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,239
Speaker 3: a skill that I'm not great at yet that I

671
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 3: hope I get better at as I continue to make shows,

672
00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 3: because it's not fair to do to yourself. Yeah, show

673
00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: running is hard for everyone. I think women have unique

674
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:56,000
Speaker 3: challenges with show running, and there's so much of the

675
00:30:56,040 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 3: life that is just not fair. I'm really lucky that

676
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 3: my dad, who was hilarious and you know, really taught

677
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 3: my three older sisters and I some great lessons. One

678
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,239
Speaker 3: is wake up every day and love what you do,

679
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 3: because he hated his job. Two was volume Win's arguments,

680
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 3: which is true sometimes. But three he always told us,

681
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 3: and this is a thing when you look at your

682
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 3: parents and you go, don't say this to me, But

683
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,959
Speaker 3: he always said, who promised you fair? When we were

684
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 3: growing up, anytime we said it was a fair, like,

685
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 3: who promised you fair? And it was a great lesson.

686
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,560
Speaker 3: And look, my mom was so foundational with all of

687
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 3: those things too. It was a great lesson to be like,

688
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 3: who promised you fair? So when we get into you know,

689
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 3: when we get into situations where you're like, oh, I

690
00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,760
Speaker 3: just want this to like I just don't want to

691
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 3: have to work so hard. I don't want it to

692
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: take over my whole life, It's like there's no fairness

693
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 3: with it. You've signed up for this job that is

694
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 3: very difficult. There is no set hours to make a show.

695
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 3: It's like you have to keep doing the work until yeah,

696
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 3: it's done, and if you want to do the best

697
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 3: version of it, those hours are going to be really

698
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 3: really long. So I to be totally honest, I haven't

699
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: figured out the balance exactly right because every time I've

700
00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 3: run a show it has completely taken over my life.

701
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,320
Speaker 3: And like I said, I'm someone who chose not to

702
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 3: have kids, not because of the career. It's just not

703
00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 3: something that my husband and I, at least this far,

704
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 3: you know, have decided that we want. We don't like children, No,

705
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 3: we love kids, but we have lots of nieces and

706
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,600
Speaker 3: maphews and we're just you know, it's not something that

707
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 3: we did. So I can't even imagine with kids. I certainly,

708
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 3: you know, employed people who have kids and like try

709
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: and be mindful of it, but it really is is

710
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 3: very consuming. So I guess my answer is moving forward,

711
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 3: I would like to give myself grace, which I think

712
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 3: a lot of us are thinking about in life coming

713
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 3: out of COVID. Those of us are in the business

714
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 3: coming out of a long strike, you know, and we're

715
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: still in it. We're still in the COVID and the

716
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 3: world is just so difficult for so many reasons right now.

717
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 3: I would like to give myself some grace. Yea perfection

718
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 3: is like a motor unfortunately for me, and I want

719
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 3: to just tell myself, like not that I don't want

720
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:00,479
Speaker 3: to put good things out into the world, but that

721
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: there has to be some sort of balance somewhere.

722
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: You gave me a piece of grape. Well it wasn't

723
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 2: even an advice, it was just like, I think you

724
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 2: were just sharing something. I was like, yeah, but I

725
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: remember like your husband, like when we were writing the

726
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 2: show together, he would like get dinner, like give you lunch,

727
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 2: just like hand you a bowl or something, or give

728
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 2: you like two choices, and I'm like, yeah, fuck, yeah.

729
00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 3: He's so supportive. I mean without that, I don't know. Well, yeah,

730
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: because then I went off to Brooklyn to make travel

731
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 3: the thickest and was by myself on eight pizza every

732
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 3: day because I was like, oh, I don't have time

733
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: more energy too.

734
00:33:30,160 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: But that's like a part of it too, right, Like

735
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 2: he knows what you need and learns how to take

736
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 2: care of you and doesn't like resent you for it. Yeah.

737
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 2: I remember you were like, oh, I can't make any

738
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 2: more decisions at the end of the day. I was like, yeah,

739
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 2: me too. That d ding ding ding bitch. That's what

740
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 2: it is.

741
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 3: There are so many decisions to make every day because

742
00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 3: when you are the people who are guiding the show,

743
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 3: which Michelle and I are and again had Grace Edwards

744
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,800
Speaker 3: to help us be part of that process. It's like everything,

745
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 3: what color is this dress? What are they holding? What

746
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 3: is it like? There is nothing that isn't there's amazing

747
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 3: talent and worked with just the crazy, most talented crew,

748
00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 3: the best in Brooklyn, and so they're bringing their own

749
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: things to the table too, thank god, because we couldn't

750
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: possibly be in charge of all of that. But there

751
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 3: are so many decisions to make it. It starts in

752
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,759
Speaker 3: the very beginning with the stories and what are the

753
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 3: stories that we're going to tell, and it goes all

754
00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 3: the way to the end of like what's the song

755
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 3: and what's the this and what's that? And it is

756
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 3: a non stop decision making extravaganza.

757
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:30,320
Speaker 1: Well that also has a certain amazing and artistic validity,

758
00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:33,360
Speaker 1: which is just that like it's total commitment, so total

759
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: artistic and you know, creative commitment, which to watch it

760
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: or to describe it, what it felt like was like,

761
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: you know, when people surf those one hundred foot waves

762
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: in Portugal, it's like every fiber of your being has

763
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: to be on focus, locked in and not to say

764
00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: that it's life or death. That's not what making television is.

765
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: But in America, where the arts are not at all supported,

766
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,799
Speaker 1: and this is this is people's creation. Of course, the

767
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: stakes are so high they feel almost like that, you know,

768
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,359
Speaker 1: and you guys perfectly executed it. And to do that

769
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 1: takes the maximum, like takes your maximum. I could feel

770
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: it in your voice what you're saying so to me, like,

771
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: that's your child, that's your you know, that's your creation.

772
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:23,240
Speaker 3: Michelle, you're my child.

773
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,400
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness.

774
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 3: Oh wait, that's not what he meant.

775
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I meant the show. The show god,

776
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: oh boy. Oh at the end, you almost we were

777
00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 1: so close.

778
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 3: I appreciate you saying that so much, Jordan. I mean

779
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,399
Speaker 3: it is I think anyone who's anyone who's made a show,

780
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 3: but certainly anyone who's made a show inspired by their

781
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 3: own life, which so many stand ups do. And I

782
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 3: love working with stand ups because it is such a

783
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 3: huge amount of responsibility for exactly the reasons you're saying, Jordan,

784
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,760
Speaker 3: that one hundred foot wave is like, this is her brand.

785
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 3: This she's worked, she's worked so many years to get this.

786
00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 3: People are going to tune into the show because of

787
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 3: that work she did. We have to get it right,

788
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 3: you know. The Karmical Show was the character's names were

789
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 3: actually his family.

790
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 2: Like it was like we were like, oh shit.

791
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: I remember twentieth being like, is this going to be okay?

792
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: We're like, I think, I mean Drad says it is,

793
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 3: So I'm assuming everyone's going to be fine with it.

794
00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 3: But you know, there's a huge amount of responsibility to

795
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: get it right, and I think we all feel that.

796
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 3: And I appreciate you calling television the arts, because I

797
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,160
Speaker 3: don't know that a lot of people do call it that, Jordan.

798
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: You know, I think there's especially comedy, especially the half

799
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: hour space, but we certainly are putting stories out into

800
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:32,839
Speaker 3: the world and a vibe into the world that we,

801
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,319
Speaker 3: you know, are proud of, and lots of people work

802
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:37,360
Speaker 3: hard on it to make it happen from.

803
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,360
Speaker 2: The beginning when we were like trying to pitch stories

804
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: and get shit made and done. It's just like the

805
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:46,320
Speaker 2: hardest most awkward conversations I've ever had with my parents

806
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 2: have been a scene in a movie, or a lyric

807
00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 2: in a song, or just you know, when Rosie Black

808
00:36:52,560 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: kissed her girlfriend at the book. Okay, you guys, we

809
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 2: got to get to questions. So we have audience members

810
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: that writing questions about adulting and we try to answer them,

811
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: and we're gonna let you answer first. And it is

812
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: very fun and sometimes love it confusing. First question, call her?

813
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: What your name and where you're calling from? Just kidding?

814
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: They wrote it, Okay, my partner and I just moved

815
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,600
Speaker 2: in together, and I realized that she doesn't wipe herself

816
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 2: after using the bathroom when she gets into the shower. Oh.

817
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 2: I confronted her about this. Oh no, I confronted her

818
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,359
Speaker 2: about this and she said, it's fine, I'll do it

819
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: in the shower. I find this so gross. Is this

820
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,200
Speaker 2: a red flag? Or am I overreacting? I ya yai

821
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 2: concheta Rivera Rodriguez.

822
00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 3: Are you calling me to go? Is that how you

823
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:51,759
Speaker 3: referring to yes?

824
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: Yes?

825
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 3: Can I ask questions?

826
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: Sure?

827
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,640
Speaker 3: Did it say a one or a two situation? Or

828
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: it just said bathroom?

829
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: Did not the fy what number was coming out of

830
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: what hole?

831
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 1: Yeah?

832
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:06,960
Speaker 2: Just said bathroom shower? Also, why are you all up

833
00:38:07,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 2: in her business to know whether she wiping or not?

834
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,359
Speaker 2: Sounds like the doors are open, Well, the doors need

835
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:14,840
Speaker 2: to be closed. I'm an open door pier what Sorry

836
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,799
Speaker 2: to everyone and to my husband. Who is I just

837
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 2: don't it's not it's not always, but like I don't

838
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 2: make a huge effort to get it closed, you know

839
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 2: what I mean?

840
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, a jar, but what is it?

841
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:24,880
Speaker 2: Is it a number two? Are you closing?

842
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:25,239
Speaker 1: Oh?

843
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, A thousand percent? A thousand percent. I mean, I'm

844
00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 3: not I'm not a.

845
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 2: Mos I'm gonna know who I'm dealing with.

846
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,759
Speaker 3: I'm not a muss. Well, well, Michelle never works with

847
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:39,080
Speaker 3: me again. I think I think here's where here's where

848
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:43,480
Speaker 3: my mind went with the with this question. If it's Pe,

849
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: the walk from the toilet to the shower bothers me

850
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: because there's dribblets that are hitting somewhere. If it's p so,

851
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: I have a problem with that. If it's Pooh, and

852
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 3: let's say there's like a handheld something in the shower,

853
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: speckles are still hitting the wall. So I think it's

854
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: a problem for the partner. No matter what, there's not

855
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 3: an okay scenario for that.

856
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 1: I think I have the solution.

857
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I love when he puts his finger

858
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,440
Speaker 2: up and he starts doing Obama because you know he

859
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 2: really means it.

860
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:19,720
Speaker 1: I have the solution.

861
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 3: I want to hear it.

862
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so what we're seeing is a problem, but I

863
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: see an opportunity for a Japanese toilet.

864
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a toto.

865
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 1: You could just get the seat.

866
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I got a Japanese toilet. There's

867
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 2: still a remote that needs to happen that you touch.

868
00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 2: I will say, And this is and I'm not proud

869
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 2: of this, And we might have to edit this out

870
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 2: because I'm not sure how comfortable I am sharing. Lol,

871
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:46,879
Speaker 2: we'll keep it. Some of the best sex I've had

872
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: have been with the nastiest motherfuckers. They'll just put their

873
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 2: face in anything. So maybe you're having really good sex,

874
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 2: but she's not wiping the drops.

875
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:56,359
Speaker 3: So what this is a solo incident in a sea

876
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 3: of what What are the positives that we're getting out

877
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: of this thing. Let's not judge on one nasty and

878
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 3: I'm just kidding. Let's not judge on one, you know,

879
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 3: like one thing, because if this is that person's only flaw, Yeah,

880
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 3: I think you live with it because you're.

881
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: Doing all right. It's not a red flag. I think

882
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:15,359
Speaker 2: you're overreacting a little bit.

883
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, here's what I do if this person is a

884
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: great partner. I wear socks in the bathroom in case

885
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 3: there's any driblets, you know what I mean, they don't

886
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 3: hit my feet. And now I'm like, and.

887
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 1: Now I'm you know, yeah, now you're absorbent.

888
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: I mean, if everything else is great, I think it's

889
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: really rude to like leave your piss everywhere. Like I

890
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 2: could never be married to man. You know, menpe around

891
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 2: the toilet and shit. I'm like, you gotta get it

892
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: together because you know I'm not potty training.

893
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's disgusting.

894
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,520
Speaker 2: You know, I don't mind if you don't wipe before

895
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: you go in the shower. We have to clean a

896
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 2: pep up. That's that's a reflex. Now you just be considerate.

897
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: That's the deal breaker.

898
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:53,200
Speaker 2: That's the deal where you got kill pep up.

899
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,359
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I often.

900
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: Will like head right to the shower, Like if if

901
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: I know that like six is on the menu, I

902
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:03,000
Speaker 1: head right to the shower just in case and hit

903
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,160
Speaker 1: all my parts and then I'm ready got to get

904
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:05,960
Speaker 1: clean to get dirty.

905
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 2: Good for you. You know what, we need to eat

906
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:10,359
Speaker 2: on a clean plate. Jordan, thank you for that. What's

907
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 2: the next question?

908
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:15,919
Speaker 1: Okay, next question? Here? We go Okay. Time is super

909
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 1: limited and eating healthy has become tough. Have you ever

910
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: used one of those food delivery systems where the meal

911
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: comes portioned and all you have to do is cook it?

912
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 1: Any recommendations for how to eat healthy? When I get

913
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 1: home and I am exhausted. Wow, this is I mean,

914
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: this is.

915
00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,680
Speaker 2: A good ass adulting question, Danielle. I'll let you take

916
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: this because you know it well.

917
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,480
Speaker 3: I am just going to have to preface by saying

918
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 3: I don't know how to cook anything. I am the

919
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: youngest of four girls, and I am Mexican American. You

920
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,040
Speaker 3: think all this adds up to being able to cook,

921
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: But here's the thing. Our only job growing up was

922
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: getting straight a's, which, look judge away, that might have

923
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:57,080
Speaker 3: been problematic already, but my mom did all the at

924
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: home stuff and my dad went to work, and it

925
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: was that kind of thing. But they both recognized that

926
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 3: that was an archaic system, and they both overshot to

927
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 3: make sure we were independent, fierce women. I say all that,

928
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,719
Speaker 3: and then I'm the one who didn't have kids. So

929
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 3: in case my sisters hear this, they can cook. I can't.

930
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,720
Speaker 3: They figured it out because I had to human beings

931
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,319
Speaker 3: and I'm the one who didn't have kids, so I

932
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 3: continue to not have to feed human beings. I ate

933
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 3: pizza in Brooklyn, Like I said, people said, you're not

934
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: going to be able to eat pizza every day, and

935
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: I said, you're wrong, and Michelle watched me do it.

936
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 3: I ate pizza. If I had to feed myself, it

937
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:35,920
Speaker 3: was pizza. And I was in the best city in

938
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 3: the world to possibly do this. So one time, all

939
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: of that to say, one time I thought I was

940
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 3: going to get into cooking and I ordered Blue Apron,

941
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,319
Speaker 3: thinking this is going to be right. That's the one

942
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,760
Speaker 3: that gives you all the ingredients, and they had stuff

943
00:42:51,800 --> 00:42:56,279
Speaker 3: in little bags and it started with there was a

944
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 3: breakfast recipe that started with in a mean muffin pan?

945
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 3: Do I have a mini muffin pan? The whole shit

946
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 3: went in the garbage can. I'm not proud of throwing

947
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,719
Speaker 3: away food, but I took the box and I put

948
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,319
Speaker 3: it in the trash and I said, I'm not going

949
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 3: to purchase a mini muffin pan. It didn't tell me

950
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: I needed to have anything in my kitchen to make

951
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,480
Speaker 3: his shit, And so I literally all that food spoiled

952
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 3: and I threw it away. And so it's not for me.

953
00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 3: Now they have this thing, what's it called like carf football. Well,

954
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: that's so food delivery already made. I'm in for because

955
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 3: that you put in the microwave. But there's this thing

956
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: called tavoala, so you have to buy an oven. No,

957
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 3: this is not an ad for tavala. No one ever

958
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,760
Speaker 3: asked me if I wanted to free tavala. I don't

959
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 3: because I don't. But anyway, they send you food and

960
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,360
Speaker 3: then but you have to have a special oven and

961
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 3: you put it in a special oven.

962
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 2: And it's my vagina is a special oven. No, I

963
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 2: was born with it. Okay, next quar ooh. Next question

964
00:43:53,640 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: is the sex?

965
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:54,879
Speaker 1: You wan?

966
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 2: How do I approach my wife about potentially playing with

967
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:08,879
Speaker 2: my asshole during sex? This is adult all over, Danielle.

968
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 3: I mean, here's the thing, like, I'm curious how long

969
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 3: they've been married. But it doesn't say any of those things.

970
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 3: I hope if you are in a marriage, that the

971
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 3: two partners are comfortable enough to say I want your

972
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 3: finger in my ass or whatever the thing is, because

973
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 3: you're already having the intimate sex and you decided to

974
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,640
Speaker 3: be life partners. Yeah right, you know people who like,

975
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 3: don't fart in front of the other spell.

976
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I used to be that and then I

977
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: had to stop.

978
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 3: I understand it to a degree, but I think I

979
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 3: think of forever when I think marriage, right, and I go,

980
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: I'm not farting forever unless I run into another room,

981
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 3: Like that's forever a long time, you know, And I

982
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,919
Speaker 3: don't want to give the illusion of like the first

983
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 3: six years I hung on and but now they just

984
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 3: have to, you know what I mean. So I hope

985
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 3: for this couple that the intimacy, the fact that they

986
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: have sex, the fact that they are married, can allow

987
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 3: for probably what's the worst that could happen If you

988
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:06,439
Speaker 3: say it, Ooh, that grosses me out. Yeah, probably that's

989
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 3: not even gonna happen, you know what I mean. It's

990
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:08,400
Speaker 3: your partner.

991
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,719
Speaker 2: I love that sentiment. I also feel like, do what

992
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 2: Jordan does, like make sure that the restaurant is clean

993
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,360
Speaker 2: before we want to go eaten. I think a couple

994
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,400
Speaker 2: of tips could be I don't know, if you guys

995
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:24,279
Speaker 2: watch porn, maybe find a video in the porn when

996
00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 2: that happens and you're just like I could be interested

997
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: in that. Or maybe go to a sex shop, and

998
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 2: you know, be like, well, what is this because it

999
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:36,560
Speaker 2: sounds like you don't necessarily feel comfortable asking for like

1000
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 2: things for yourself, which I understand, especially like sexual things.

1001
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 2: You're probably just like happy somebody, your life partner wants

1002
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: to do it with you, which is great. Also, Beyonce,

1003
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 2: what's her what's the name of her? Sasha Fears is

1004
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,480
Speaker 2: her alter ego? Yeah, alter ego? Thank you? I was like, alias,

1005
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 2: that's not it? Perhaps for you yourself, you give yourself

1006
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 2: like you know, fake it to your make it like

1007
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,839
Speaker 2: an alter ego. You know, you come up with this

1008
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 2: person that doesn't mind asking for things. If that makes

1009
00:46:04,680 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 2: you feel more comfortable, definitely. Also start small. This is

1010
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 2: your booty hole. You don't have to be a hero.

1011
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 2: Jordan love it.

1012
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: That's a new magnet.

1013
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, ask for things, ask for things for your butthole.

1014
00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, Also, this is what vacations

1015
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: are for, you know, like going away?

1016
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 3: Okay, interesting?

1017
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, birthdays, anniversaries especially occasion. Yeah, look occasion maybe like

1018
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: rent a hotel room, a nice hotel room for the night,

1019
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 1: something like that.

1020
00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:34,560
Speaker 3: So the anniversary thing made me think, so my parents,

1021
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 3: who I said, my dad's very funny. He passed away

1022
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 3: in twenty fifteen. My mom is still with us and

1023
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 3: also very funny. Apparently when they were young, they said

1024
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: their fiftieth wedding anniversary, my mom was going to do

1025
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,839
Speaker 3: something for my dad. They were going to make something happen, right,

1026
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,800
Speaker 3: Oh well they made fifty years. My dad died shortly

1027
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,759
Speaker 3: there after. We kind of heard this joke, you know,

1028
00:46:54,080 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 3: over the years, and we all have our guess of

1029
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 3: what the thing was. I don't think it happened, but

1030
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,720
Speaker 3: it was hysterical to watch too. People at that age

1031
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 3: actually go, it's fifty. Hey today, it's today. It's fifty babe, Like,

1032
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 3: oh my god, is it going to happen? You got

1033
00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:09,839
Speaker 3: to think through what you promised too.

1034
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:10,200
Speaker 1: True.

1035
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: Look, I would need a contract for that. So this

1036
00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 2: has been lovely as fuck. Yeah, we ask all our guests, Oh.

1037
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,160
Speaker 3: I love this. I love this. It's like it's it's

1038
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 3: like a motivational go on.

1039
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,520
Speaker 2: We asked all our guests, what is the most adult

1040
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,040
Speaker 2: thing you want to do for yourself this year that

1041
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,000
Speaker 2: you haven't had time to do, And it could really

1042
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: be anything. Some people say take a trip, which drag

1043
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: Queen said, I want to go to Capri and Caprice

1044
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: and drink Capri son. That was cha Coula.

1045
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 3: Oh my god, what a great answer.

1046
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,080
Speaker 2: Yes, And the most adult thing that I want to

1047
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 2: do was like figure out how to make a salad dressing.

1048
00:47:48,239 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: So it truly can be anything that you want to

1049
00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: do for yourself that you haven't figured out how to

1050
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 2: do yet.

1051
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,879
Speaker 3: Such a good question, and you'd think coming on here

1052
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 3: that I would have thought this could be a question

1053
00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 3: that was asked of me.

1054
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,879
Speaker 1: But it's a good health you got all year.

1055
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it's in the corner me at all that

1056
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 3: this could be a question. I mean, I would like

1057
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 3: to and this will make sense given what I've said.

1058
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 3: I would like to be able to feed myself. It's

1059
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 3: pretty simple, but I would like to be able to

1060
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 3: feed myself. And to the person who asks, like, how

1061
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 3: do you eat healthy, I'd like to be able to

1062
00:48:21,719 --> 00:48:25,840
Speaker 3: feed myself in a healthful way. I burned refrigerator cookie

1063
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 3: dough the other day, so like, oh, I would like

1064
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 3: to give myself some credit for being able to follow

1065
00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 3: some instructions. Get on the old YouTube and be like,

1066
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: let's cook a chicken breast together and see how this goes,

1067
00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:40,840
Speaker 3: and like just believe a little bit more in my

1068
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 3: ability to feed myself, which may sound small to people.

1069
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 3: It's actually it's so overwhelming right now that I feel sweaty.

1070
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: No, it's it's not easy.

1071
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,560
Speaker 2: I feel it for you right now because I'm just

1072
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 2: like cookie dough. Yeah, it's ten minutes and three fifty please.

1073
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: It said seven, And I looked and they look too soft.

1074
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 2: Ten minutes is the perfect You gotta ask your friends

1075
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 2: that are garbage cans like me that always make cookies.

1076
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: I just want to say, you might not be able

1077
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: to feed yourself, but you have fed our souls and

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Speaker 1: we appreciate that.

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Speaker 3: Oh, my Shordan Horloss. Before we hang up, can we

1080
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: just talk about how adorable Jordan was in season one

1081
00:49:18,160 --> 00:49:20,920
Speaker 3: of Survival because Michelle said, I have to have my

1082
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 3: dear friend Jordan. He just his face has to be

1083
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: in season one, and we and when I met him,

1084
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 3: I was like, I see why his face has to

1085
00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 3: be in season one. It was a small part, but

1086
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,440
Speaker 3: it was actually a hugely important storytelling wise, because we

1087
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 3: needed people to like Jacques, the ex boyfriend of Michelle's

1088
00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 3: character Navis, and the idea we had was we got

1089
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 3: to put him with someone who we like, and if

1090
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 3: that person likes him, then it's kind of a signal

1091
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,399
Speaker 3: to the audience to be like like him. There's more

1092
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 3: to him than just being a cheating fuck. It's like,

1093
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 3: there's this other thing. And so Jordan served that purpose

1094
00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: for us. You might not have any idea that that

1095
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,920
Speaker 3: was an important purpose for us, but it was, and

1096
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:56,440
Speaker 3: it worked.

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00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,879
Speaker 1: It was just my excuse to hang out, but it was.

1098
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 1: It was so much fun. It was on the street.

1099
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,239
Speaker 1: It was North sixth Street. I'll never forget Williamsburg. It's

1100
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,560
Speaker 1: a beautiful day. The light was just right. It was

1101
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:07,840
Speaker 1: a wonderful afternoon.

1102
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:08,759
Speaker 3: It was wonderful.

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00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a comedian, you're like, ooh, a day of work.

1104
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 2: I get to support my friend. I'm in the show.

1105
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 2: I get a little notch on IMDb, you know what

1106
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 2: I mean. But like, now that I can see how

1107
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 2: the sausage and the cookie dough is made and the

1108
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 2: bigger picture, I'm like, look at these beautiful black men

1109
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 2: that are not being arrested, you know, that are educated,

1110
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:30,879
Speaker 2: that are wild, that are funny, that are dressed well,

1111
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,160
Speaker 2: that are friends, that are not in competition with each other,

1112
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:34,560
Speaker 2: that are not on like love and hip hop that

1113
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 2: are not like serving the buffoonery that like a bunch

1114
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 2: of like basic cable wants to serve us, that they

1115
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 2: think that that's what we are. And so I was like,

1116
00:50:42,280 --> 00:50:45,000
Speaker 2: oh my god, looking at it, editing it, looking at

1117
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: it on a big screen, watching people watch it on

1118
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 2: an airplane, I'm just like, this is fucking beautiful and

1119
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 2: we need more of this. So thank you Jordan, oh thanks,

1120
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 2: and thank you Taylors to life, thank you to thank

1121
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,560
Speaker 2: you Jordan, and thank you Danielle. I love you both.

1122
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:00,680
Speaker 2: I love one of you more, but only because of

1123
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 2: the time we spend together. No, I paid her to

1124
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 2: say that. I paid her to say that head start.

1125
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: It's all good.

1126
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 3: It's not personal, but I feel like Jordan could and

1127
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 3: it might catch up.

1128
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:13,800
Speaker 2: So I just want to wow, challenge what's not over promise?

1129
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,439
Speaker 1: Friend? Oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah.

1130
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 2: Can you imagine working with that all day long, for

1131
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 2: like a whole year. It's pretty good.

1132
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: Oh, I mean I see it.

1133
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 2: You are the company you keep, whether it's friends or business.

1134
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: So keep some good ass company. Yeah, do that, do

1135
00:51:37,600 --> 00:51:39,879
Speaker 1: that for yourself, surround yourself. And that's something that I

1136
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: really admire in you, is that you're very fastidious with

1137
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:46,120
Speaker 1: the company you keep.

1138
00:51:46,239 --> 00:51:48,520
Speaker 2: What's that mean? You know, I'm from Jersey? Oh not,

1139
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,040
Speaker 2: come on now what and the jeopardy is going on.

1140
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,760
Speaker 1: It just means you're very careful with who you choose

1141
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: to hang around. And I just picked up a big word.

1142
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, No, you like.

1143
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 2: To You're married to a teacher. You guys, that's like

1144
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:06,840
Speaker 2: your love language.

1145
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 1: Oh my god. We were like tripping over over a

1146
00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: word yesterday, which is such a beautiful word, and we're like,

1147
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 1: look at us knowing this word.

1148
00:52:13,640 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: What was the word?

1149
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: A pooria is the introduction of doubt into an argument,

1150
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: and we both knew it and we were like, oh

1151
00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,080
Speaker 1: my god, they love you.

1152
00:52:23,080 --> 00:52:28,320
Speaker 2: You guys deserve each other. Holy shit, Oh my god,

1153
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: Oh my god.

1154
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: What.

1155
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: No, it's nice to be around couples that definitely work well.

1156
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:37,800
Speaker 1: You know, we try, we try, We gotta, we gotta

1157
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: go in for maintenance every couple of months. You know

1158
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,399
Speaker 1: how it is. But it's like, you definitely are We're

1159
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: making it happen.

1160
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:49,760
Speaker 2: I am very proud of you. It is fun sitting

1161
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 2: down with a show runner, especially being both of us

1162
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 2: being multi hyphenits because a showrunner you're doing seventeen things

1163
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 2: while you have this passion for this one thing, which

1164
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,560
Speaker 2: is like creating. And then also television of course, and

1165
00:53:05,640 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 2: so it's really really fun to find like minded people

1166
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 2: even if we didn't grow up in the same error,

1167
00:53:12,560 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 2: to like still love on like these special moments and

1168
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:20,600
Speaker 2: TV shows that sort of like influenced and affected like

1169
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 2: our lives, you know, are Yeah, our happiest and our

1170
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: saddest moments, you know. And so I'm just like, it

1171
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 2: was a real good hang.

1172
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:29,080
Speaker 1: It was a cool hang. Man.

1173
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 2: It all felt like five minutes.

1174
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a great hang. She's hella funny, I

1175
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: get it. I see the keemkems between you. And the

1176
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:41,080
Speaker 1: best metaphor is the hundred foot wave. I'm like, that's

1177
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: the best metaphor for y'all both, Like you're just doing it,

1178
00:53:43,640 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: carving it up, yeah, and making it look easy. But

1179
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: here we are, Yes we are.

1180
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:52,719
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness. I'm excited. I also have a date

1181
00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:54,319
Speaker 2: night tonight with my husband, So I got to get

1182
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 2: out of here where to go to a next game.

1183
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 2: But I'm not going to get high because I don't

1184
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:58,840
Speaker 2: know how to be I don't know how to be

1185
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 2: high in public. So that's fair. Wish me luck.

1186
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,000
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, that's great. Are you going to be on

1187
00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:05,399
Speaker 1: celebrity row?

1188
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 2: I think so.

1189
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: Yes. People don't know about certain things in New York,

1190
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna go ahead and shoot my friend

1191
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 1: Michelle Buteau's horn. Get a gilt. Okay. There are certain

1192
00:54:16,560 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 1: signs that you have made it in New York City.

1193
00:54:20,760 --> 00:54:24,719
Speaker 1: Chief among them is floor side tickets to the next

1194
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:28,520
Speaker 1: that you did not pay for. It was your talents

1195
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:31,319
Speaker 1: that got you there. But you gotta be cool about it, right.

1196
00:54:31,400 --> 00:54:33,319
Speaker 1: You can't be like hype. They get like mad at

1197
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: you if you get hype. Yeah, you're on the front row,

1198
00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,600
Speaker 1: You're on the big screen. Yeah, it's an honor, it's

1199
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:41,560
Speaker 1: a priv The next will not win, but you are

1200
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: there doing your utmost and the winner is you. Michelle.

1201
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 2: Look, I really feel like we're only in competition with ourselves.

1202
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,560
Speaker 2: The fact that we show up and try we've already won.

1203
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:52,479
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

1204
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,720
Speaker 2: But that's why I don't get invited into games.

1205
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,880
Speaker 1: We did it all right, everyone, hie, I gotta go.

1206
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,280
Speaker 1: This has been an exactly right production.

1207
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: Our senior producer is g how Lee.

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00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: Art associate producer is Christina Chamberlain.

1209
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by John Bradley.

1210
00:55:14,320 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 1: Our guest booker is Patrick Cottner.

1211
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,480
Speaker 2: Additional production support from Hannah Kyle Crichton.

1212
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:21,520
Speaker 4: Theme song and live show DJing is by DJ don Will,

1213
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,040
Speaker 4: artwork by Jamie.

1214
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 2: Bechtel, Photography by Heis vander Mass.

1215
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 4: Executive produced by Karen Kilgera, Georgia Hartstark, and Daniel Kramer.

1216
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 2: Follow the show on Instagram at Adulting the Pod.

1217
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 4: Email your questions to Adulting Questions at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Mm hmm