WEBVTT - 060124 Are Black People a Monolith? (Part 1)

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<v Speaker 1>Broadcasting from the Hip Hop Weekly Studios. I'd like to

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<v Speaker 1>welcome you to another episode of Civic Cipher, where our

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<v Speaker 1>mission is to foster allyship empathy and understanding. I'm your host,

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey's job.

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<v Speaker 2>He is Ramsey's job. I am q Ward. You are

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<v Speaker 2>listening to Civic Scitem and.

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<v Speaker 1>We appreciate that we have a very special show in

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<v Speaker 1>store for you. We're going to be discussing some things

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<v Speaker 1>that have been coming up a lot lately. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we're watching Fox News discuss the uh shift away from

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Biden in terms of black voters in favor of

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump. And it's greatly exaggerated by the way, but

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<v Speaker 1>you know it's it's not nothing. It's something we're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, Q and I got to talking, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's this question that exists in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Are black people a monolith? And often it's used to

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<v Speaker 1>like be very critical of black people and our votes

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<v Speaker 1>and so forth. But today we're going to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>answer that question and give our thoughts into kind of

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<v Speaker 1>the value of being on the same page and how

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<v Speaker 1>that works as a strategy, because there's certainly some other

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<v Speaker 1>folks that adopt that strategy. For long term games rather

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<v Speaker 1>than short term games, and so there's definitely something to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about there. In addition, we are going to take

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<v Speaker 1>the second half of the show to distinguish between Republicans

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<v Speaker 1>and conservatives. I feel like I'm guilty of this, but

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people are guilty of kind of conflating

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<v Speaker 1>the terms. And there are some people who are conservatives

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<v Speaker 1>that would not fit into the Republican party. And perhaps

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<v Speaker 1>there are even some Republicans that really don't qualify as conservatives.

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<v Speaker 1>And so we're going to take some time to discuss

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<v Speaker 1>both of those and a lot more on today's show.

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<v Speaker 1>But before we get there, as always, let's start off

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<v Speaker 1>the show with some ebony excellence, shall we? I think

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<v Speaker 1>we shall.

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<v Speaker 2>Today's Ebony Excellence sponsored by Actively Black. There is greatness

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<v Speaker 2>from the BI in Georgia, Institute of Technology's first black

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<v Speaker 2>graduate handed his granddaughter her diploma during her graduation from

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<v Speaker 2>the school, decades after his historic achievement, and the video

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<v Speaker 2>posted on Instagram, Georgia Tech graduate Deanna Yancey hugged her grandfather,

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<v Speaker 2>Ronald Yansey, the school's first black graduate, for he gave

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<v Speaker 2>her her degree during a commitment ceremony earlier this month.

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<v Speaker 2>The recent graduate earned a master's degree in Electoral, electrical

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<v Speaker 2>and Computer engineering. Dana's achievement comes after her grandfather graduated

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<v Speaker 2>from Georgia Tech in June nineteen sixty five. According to

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<v Speaker 2>the university officials, Georgia Tech was the first college in

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<v Speaker 2>the Deep South to integrate amicably and without a court order.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcoming black students began in nineteen sixty one. However, Ronald

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<v Speaker 2>Yancey previously said his role to getting accepted into the

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<v Speaker 2>university was not easy. Yancey said he was told not

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<v Speaker 2>quote he did not fit the Tech model for success

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<v Speaker 2>end quote, after he wasn't admitted into.

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<v Speaker 3>The school twice in the nineteen sixties.

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<v Speaker 2>A sculpture was built in twenty nineteen in honor of

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<v Speaker 2>Yancey's historic achievement as the first black graduate in school history.

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<v Speaker 2>Earlier this month, Yancey and his granddaughter smiled for pictures

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<v Speaker 2>after he handed her her diploma. Hashtag we can do

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<v Speaker 2>that quote, the university captioned a video for this full

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<v Speaker 2>circle moment. We spoke recently about looking forward to the

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<v Speaker 2>time where first black will stop being a thing. But

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<v Speaker 2>here we are celebrating once again the first black to

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<v Speaker 2>achieve something.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the fact that there's some legacy in this

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<v Speaker 1>sty Oh no, I mean yeah, it's very special. Now

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<v Speaker 1>our black people a monolith.

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<v Speaker 3>Go. I've noticed something.

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<v Speaker 2>More in the last let's say decade than at any

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<v Speaker 2>point in my life prior, and that is the need

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<v Speaker 2>for black people specifically, I'll say minorities in general, but

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<v Speaker 2>black people specifically, to distinguish ourselves, to point out the

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<v Speaker 2>diversity and our experience, the diversity and our talents, the

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<v Speaker 2>diversity and our thoughts, the diversity and our intellect, and

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<v Speaker 2>the diversity in our position. With regard to politics, I've

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<v Speaker 2>seen those who have a desire to stand up part

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<v Speaker 2>rather than be seen as followers or sheep or taking

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<v Speaker 2>part in group think. Not just exclaim that we are

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<v Speaker 2>not aman the lith but try to urge or divest

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<v Speaker 2>us from things that in some cases would be in

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<v Speaker 2>our benefit, just for the sake of not subscribing to

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<v Speaker 2>group think, just for the sake of not following what

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<v Speaker 2>seems to be a trend. Mean most notably those of

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<v Speaker 2>us calling for black people to stop being so loyal to.

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<v Speaker 3>The Democratic party.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like to speak about that and then just

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<v Speaker 2>move on, because there's definitely some merit to the position

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<v Speaker 2>that they take. But I think it's irresponsible to not

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<v Speaker 2>have a suitable replacement in a zero sum game. To say,

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<v Speaker 2>let's divest from the Democratic Party and go over here

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<v Speaker 2>to this other party as if they've done tremendous amount

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<v Speaker 2>of things that are to our benefit. I think is irresponsible,

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<v Speaker 2>And in a lot of cases, that's the solution. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not coming to us saying no political party should just

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<v Speaker 2>have our support forever, while not doing anything to move

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<v Speaker 2>our agenda forward. They are saying, don't give it to

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<v Speaker 2>that party, give it to this one. And in this

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<v Speaker 2>country where the other choice has now become the Maga party,

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<v Speaker 2>what is it that you're suggesting? Right, so, we have

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<v Speaker 2>now created a subgeneration of contrarians with no actual cause.

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<v Speaker 2>There's not something that they actually support. It's just let's

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<v Speaker 2>not do the thing that everybody else is doing. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel you, Okay, So what should we do instead?

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<v Speaker 2>And that's that question is typically followed up with a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of straw men, not just straw man, but almost

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<v Speaker 2>ridiculous counter objectives. There's no direction to point us to

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<v Speaker 2>that's better. Let's just not do that because we've always

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<v Speaker 2>done it right. And as much as I think that

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<v Speaker 2>because we've always done it is not a reason to

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<v Speaker 2>continue to if you're suggesting we do something different, point

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<v Speaker 2>us towards something that's better. You know, the strength of

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<v Speaker 2>black people in this country always came from us having

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<v Speaker 2>the same agenda, and I think that that's why post

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<v Speaker 2>civil rights movement you've seen a lot of progress, because

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<v Speaker 2>there is this need to prove how diverse we are,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think it's necessary. It's the reason why this

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<v Speaker 2>conversation is so complicated is because we don't want to

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<v Speaker 2>be lumped together always. We don't want for there to

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<v Speaker 2>be people who feel like they speak for all of us.

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<v Speaker 2>But in certain instances, especially with regards to politics in

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<v Speaker 2>this country, there needs to be an agenda that we

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<v Speaker 2>all kind of take up arms and support because those

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<v Speaker 2>that oppose us are very, very singular in their thought

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<v Speaker 2>and if you're paying attention at all, which is which

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<v Speaker 2>makes this so frustrating to watch what the other side

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<v Speaker 2>of the aisle is doing legislatively, because they're not sneaking

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<v Speaker 2>around anymore.

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<v Speaker 3>They're doing these things right.

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<v Speaker 2>In our faces, with regards to women's rights, with regards

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<v Speaker 2>to diversity, equity, and inclusion, with regards to their rebranding

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<v Speaker 2>and stealing of the idea of critical race theory. UH

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<v Speaker 2>seeing what they're doing with actual American history to whitewash

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<v Speaker 2>and get rid of things that make them uncomfortable or

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<v Speaker 2>that hurt people's feelings. We are watching a party try

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<v Speaker 2>to erase us from history and the future and the future,

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<v Speaker 2>to perpetually subjugate, to perpetually step on everything that's progressive

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<v Speaker 2>for us. And those that we look to, those that

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<v Speaker 2>we celebrate, those who we support, are now taking up

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<v Speaker 2>a stance of endorsing even one of the worst people

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<v Speaker 2>in the history of our political system, excluding no one.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying the worst, knowing how things were one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>years ago. I still consider him one of the worst,

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<v Speaker 2>even in comparison to those who came long before him.

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<v Speaker 3>And and and thought leaders, cultural leaders take up.

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<v Speaker 2>A position of I'm just not going to endorse anyone again,

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<v Speaker 2>something that I consider irresponsible because we are not at

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<v Speaker 2>a place we're abstaining has any benefit, you know. I

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<v Speaker 2>wish that we could wave a magic wand and fix

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<v Speaker 2>our political system I do. We unfortunately do not have

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<v Speaker 2>such a magic wand and by abstaining, by just throwing

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<v Speaker 2>up our hands, a person like Donald Trump can become

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<v Speaker 2>the president of the United States. A person like Donald

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<v Speaker 2>Trump can appoint multiple lifelong Supreme Court justices to support

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<v Speaker 2>his agenda. A person like Donald Trump, while being on trial,

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<v Speaker 2>while being indicted, while being charged in both criminal and

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<v Speaker 2>civil court, can be on the cusp of becoming the

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<v Speaker 2>president again while saying out loud that he wants to

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<v Speaker 2>be a dictator, and while so called patriots are showing

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<v Speaker 2>up to his rallies saying they're okay with that too,

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<v Speaker 2>while saying that he feels like as president he should

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<v Speaker 2>have full immunity to do whatever he wants, and saying

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<v Speaker 2>open eyed adult Americans are on camera and otherwise saying yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm okay with that. It is a very very scary

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<v Speaker 2>time to be in a position where I'm a part

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<v Speaker 2>of a group that our political system does not serve.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the part that's important to say, and that makes

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<v Speaker 2>the conversation so difficult to have everybody who wants to

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<v Speaker 2>throw up their hands and just say I'm done with this.

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<v Speaker 3>Like you get it.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't trying to make the argument against why they

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<v Speaker 2>feel that way as a A p flub is what

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<v Speaker 2>we used to call it when there's no solution to

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<v Speaker 2>a problem. They are voting for a party that makes

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<v Speaker 2>promises that it doesn't deliver on. They are participating in

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<v Speaker 2>a system that that doesn't serve them. They are being

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<v Speaker 2>lied to every cycle by candidates who don't deliver on

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<v Speaker 2>their promises. People are not It's not their imagination. They're

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<v Speaker 2>not making up these slights. They are participating in a

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<v Speaker 2>system that's rigged against them. That's true with both sides,

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<v Speaker 2>except one side makes it not worse for all of us,

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<v Speaker 2>and the supporters on that side a delusion, Okay, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand that the system is working against them.

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<v Speaker 1>They can conceive of it somehow working for them.

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<v Speaker 2>Ultimately, the group that I'm speaking of has been participating

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<v Speaker 2>in favor of a group that is not doing what

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<v Speaker 2>it said it would do to help and support them,

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<v Speaker 2>and they're they are now saying, either I won't participate,

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<v Speaker 2>or I'll participate for the side who's going to make things.

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<v Speaker 3>Way worse for me.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to jump in here if

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<v Speaker 1>I can. I don't want to be disingenuous, because I

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<v Speaker 1>know that there are people that will listen and say,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like I was saying that, well, no, that's

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<v Speaker 1>true of both sides. You know, both parties do that,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, fair point point taken. The thing is

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<v Speaker 1>is that we're going to be able to make this

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<v Speaker 1>point a lot more clearer in the second part of

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<v Speaker 1>the show, where we will uh run through a thought

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<v Speaker 1>experiment and we'd love for you to participate. But I imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the country was divided into two parts, and

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<v Speaker 1>which part would do better and which part would not uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And then you'll be able to see the point that

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<v Speaker 1>Q is making here, which is that there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>a particular group of this people on the right, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>say it, that is a lot more convinced that things

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<v Speaker 1>could work for them maybe one day and it just

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<v Speaker 1>won't versus folks on this side who really feel, like, sincerely,

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<v Speaker 1>like it's the lesser of two evils in doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Things don't get worse. Maybe we can take a baby

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<v Speaker 1>step here and there. And that's kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>What's even more sad, is that things could get worse

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<v Speaker 2>in both cases.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just extreme.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, any other a lot more extreme. That's the that's

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<v Speaker 2>the sad part. We can't even we can't even get

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<v Speaker 2>on here because we want to rams and I would

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<v Speaker 2>love to get on here and tell you that you

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<v Speaker 2>have one option that's excellent or that's even or that's

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<v Speaker 2>even good, and we can't. Now, there is data that

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<v Speaker 2>supports very clearly. It's not even subjective. There's objective data

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<v Speaker 2>that shows one side is better than the other. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that means great for us, that mean great in general.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's great for democracy. Yeah, I don't even know that.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's democracy still, it's still democracy. Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't even know about great for democracy. But it's democracy.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what that's what we're not.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not saying get rid of the Constitution because it

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't serve me, and then having millions of Americans say, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do that to support our guide like it's really

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<v Speaker 2>turned into something.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's and that's that's the funny part, because these

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<v Speaker 1>are the people that you know, love to bring up

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the intention of the Founding Fathers and you

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<v Speaker 1>know the Second Amendment. They don't know, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>Bill of Rights, they don't know the Preamble to the Constitution,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't know all that sort of stuff, but they

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<v Speaker 1>know Second Amendment, they know you know, founding Father the God. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>now I know all this stuff by heart because I

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<v Speaker 1>went to fourth grade. But but but a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>these people that goes right out the window as soon

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<v Speaker 1>as they start talking about you know, their their candidate

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<v Speaker 1>that they're running right now. So I know what you're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>First thing, though, I want to kind of respond.

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<v Speaker 3>We had a.

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<v Speaker 1>Message and a donation from a listener because of your

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<v Speaker 1>thoughts last week. They were brilliant and masterful.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, according to the listener, they were, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he was very moved by that. He listens to us

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<v Speaker 1>on will f M Black Black Sheep Radio, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that you had another run today. It's just you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of nail it to the wall. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>things that I want to feed you, just to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of see what else comes from this moment, is that

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<v Speaker 1>I think that if we were to think about black

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<v Speaker 1>people in the whole country at some point in the future,

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<v Speaker 1>thirty fifty years in the future, right, the population has

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<v Speaker 1>shifted in an optimal scenario where all of the time

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<v Speaker 1>that we need for all the progress that we want,

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<v Speaker 1>or a good amount of the progress that we want

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<v Speaker 1>has come to pass, and now we're in this more

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<v Speaker 1>utopian society where everyone is just doing better and everyone

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<v Speaker 1>has a better go at things. At that point, it

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<v Speaker 1>might make more sense for people to have black people

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<v Speaker 1>in particular, to have to lean into their they're different experiences, right, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I grew up this way, Well, I believe these things. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I like this candidate, right, And there's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more diversity in terms of your political persuasion because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of the foundational boxes that we need checked have

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<v Speaker 1>been checked in this ideal scenario right now. However, we're

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<v Speaker 1>still traveling towards that reality, and so having a singular

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<v Speaker 1>vision and a singular focus makes more sense until we

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<v Speaker 1>get to that point in the future where we can

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<v Speaker 1>be more nuanced in terms of our experience in these

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<v Speaker 1>United States of America. Right now, one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to come to terms within this country,

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<v Speaker 1>it comes to terms with the fact that we're black.

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<v Speaker 1>And statistically, a lot of stuff, bad stuff affects black

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<v Speaker 1>people more. And it's not because black people are bad

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<v Speaker 1>because of circumstances, systems, stories, etc.

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<v Speaker 3>That have privileged white.

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<v Speaker 1>People and have harmed black and brown people, all of

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<v Speaker 1>which we've delineated and explained on this show. So with

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<v Speaker 1>that in mind, what do you think.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very difficult not to be discouraged about the possible utopia,

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<v Speaker 2>right like it seems no, no, yeah, And I understand

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<v Speaker 2>it seems to be something that's unrealistic, and that's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of where this splintering happens. And again, I think we

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<v Speaker 2>think there is power and not participating. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to keep giving my support to these people who are

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<v Speaker 2>not going to do for me. And what we don't

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<v Speaker 2>understand is that we have to survive. Even times like

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<v Speaker 2>this where there seems to be no solution that's great

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<v Speaker 2>for us, we have to survive it. Participating makes that

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<v Speaker 2>very difficult.

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<v Speaker 3>That the the.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of the narrative and a lot of the

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<v Speaker 2>kind of out loud logic that I'm hearing now is

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<v Speaker 2>similar to the first time Trump ran for president.

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<v Speaker 3>I hear people.

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<v Speaker 2>Saying out loud, almost dismissively, like he doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>chance to win this thing again, and it's like, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what world have you guys been living in? Sure, he's

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<v Speaker 2>always had a more inflated ego and a grander, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>delusion of himself than what's actual. But what is actual

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<v Speaker 2>is that that man ran for president and became president

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<v Speaker 2>for four years, and.

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<v Speaker 3>He was an awful president. People like to throw.

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<v Speaker 2>Political victories at us, all the great things he did

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<v Speaker 2>for black people in for the country.

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<v Speaker 3>There aren't many.

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<v Speaker 2>Things that yeah, yeah, things that happened while he was

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<v Speaker 2>the president that benefited anyone that wasn't rich, wasn't on purpose.

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<v Speaker 3>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like someone's in your house and it catches on

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<v Speaker 2>fire and you put it out. You put it out

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<v Speaker 2>to save your house. You didn't put out to save

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<v Speaker 2>that person. That person might feel like you're their hero,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's like it didn't have nothing to do with you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you benefited from that by mistake.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There was nothing I could have done to just let

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<v Speaker 2>the whole thing burn down. So yeah, you live here,

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<v Speaker 2>so yeah, I guess that thing helped you. But there

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<v Speaker 2>was nothing that that man did intentionally to help you.

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<v Speaker 2>And by you, I mean anyone who's listening, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>how you vote, no matter where you're from, no matter

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<v Speaker 2>your status, there's nothing he did to benefit you. He

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<v Speaker 2>did things to benefit himself, his friends. He didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>do things to directly benefit his base on purpose. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, we need some munity and thought. We

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<v Speaker 2>need some unity and intention. We need some unity and action.

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<v Speaker 2>And right now is not the time to flex how

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<v Speaker 2>diverse we are. Right now, it's not the time to

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<v Speaker 2>show how much of a follower you aren't and how

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<v Speaker 2>much of an individual.

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<v Speaker 3>Thinker you are.

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<v Speaker 2>That's just a flex that you get to look like

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<v Speaker 2>the cool person in your social group, and you don't

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<v Speaker 2>look cool. Collectively, we need to do something together, even

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<v Speaker 2>if that's just survive another four years while we keep

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<v Speaker 2>trying to figure this thing out. But not participating and

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<v Speaker 2>or going to the other side is not the answer.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how to say it more plainly than that,

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<v Speaker 2>even I don't even know how to like sound motivating.

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<v Speaker 2>The alternative is bad, like historically bad, like no more

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<v Speaker 2>democracy bad.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not being hyperbolic.