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Just gotta turn out the light. 17 00:00:53,200 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 1: Oh hey, some things now or change, like your kids 18 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:04,760 Speaker 1: always leaving tiny toys on the floor for you to 19 00:01:04,800 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: step on and gang saving folks lots of money on 20 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: their car insurance. Sweetie, I think I left the downstairs 21 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: light on. Please don't make me go. Fifteen minutes could 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 1: save you or more. Hi, this is Roshan McDonald. Welcome 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversation. Each Money Making Conversation talk show 24 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 1: is about entrepreneurship and entertainment. I provide the consumer and 25 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: business owner access to celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. 26 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,759 Speaker 1: I recognize that we all have different definitions of success. 27 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: For some, it's a sizeable paycheck. Mine is helping people 28 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: wake up and inspiring them to accomplish their goals and 29 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 1: live their very best life. These are my passions and 30 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: that's what I'm going to do for you. I want 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: you to stop tripping over small challenges and prepare to 32 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: rise above bigger obstacles in life. Will present to you 33 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: the Money Making Conversation interviews provide relatable information to the 34 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: listener about career and find that you're planning, entrepreneurship, motivation, leadership, 35 00:02:01,600 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: overcoming the arts, and how to live a balanced life. 36 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: My next guest is a industry friend and a personal friend. 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,920 Speaker 1: Uh He's a music industry executive, television producer and senior 38 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: vice president and general manager of r C A Inspiration. 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:19,959 Speaker 1: Inspiration is the number one label and gospel music honed 40 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: to Kirk Franklin. That's my man, Fred Hammond, that's my boy, 41 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 1: the Walls Group, Landraw Johnson, and many many more. Please 42 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: welcome the money making conversation. I call him a visionary. 43 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: Please welcome Phil Thornton Man. I'm honored Mann. You know 44 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I thank you for that compliment. I know I enjoyed lunch, 45 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: and that means that once this calls down, I missed 46 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: your smile of phase I did to you in l 47 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: A when you're being undered in the Legends Award h 48 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: ceremony and uh good friend about Kelly Rowland's uh brought 49 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,600 Speaker 1: you on stage and many more good people could bring. 50 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: I was just happy I was there to to see 51 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: you being on it for that tell us before we 52 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: get started. Because it's all about music, it's all about 53 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: a body of work. What it felt like to be 54 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: be honored at that at that ceremony, it was humbling. 55 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 1: It was I couldn't believe it, just to be in 56 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: the room filled with so many people that I've known 57 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 1: since my journey in this business and starting at twelve 58 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 1: years old. Just to be in that room and to 59 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: feel that love. Just it was humbling and just grateful 60 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: and just I couldn't even believe it. I almost I 61 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: couldn't even remember my speech right right. It was just overwhelmed. 62 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: It was overwhelmed. Well, it was happy because of the 63 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: fact that I know I was blessed with that honor 64 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 1: and it was unexpected, and that those are the type 65 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: of honests you you appreciate more because you know you're 66 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: just working hard. Okay, Phil, and then somebody tapped you 67 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: on the shows. You know something, we noticed that you 68 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: know thise what you're doing and and it's a blessing. 69 00:03:53,120 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: We're wanna bless you by honoring you and telling the 70 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: world what we think about you. And we also know 71 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: that the celebration always benefits to go to a charitable 72 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 1: donation to help out people who have not been successful 73 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:07,040 Speaker 1: in business, all have fallen on hard time. So it's 74 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 1: a dual honor. You get honored, but also we celebrate 75 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 1: by honoring individual of creating income for individuals who are 76 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: suffering or not doing well at the time. So it's 77 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: a it's a double edge celebration. Absolutely absolutely, and to 78 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: my you know, my understanding, we raised a lot of 79 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: money that night and which is and it's a path 80 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: the goal, which was the blessing in it all. So 81 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: that was great to hear that. So yeah, we know, 82 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: we do. You know, just we're going into the third quarter, 83 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: and when we were started out the year smiling, then 84 00:04:35,200 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: the pandemic hitt and uh, now we're into this civil arrest, 85 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: which is understandable as an African American man. I'm just 86 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: gonna let people know, one out of one thousand black 87 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: men and black boys who have stopped by the police 88 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,240 Speaker 1: are likely to be die. That's a statu that a 89 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: lot of people don't know. I read their story in 90 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Los Angeles time. That's two point five times higher than 91 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: white men. That happens to white men and white boys 92 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: when they're stopped by the police one out of one thousand. 93 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: And people wonder why we are concerned about police brutality. Uh, 94 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: concern when police stop us as black individuals, especially black men. 95 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: And let's let's just talk about your business from a perspective, 96 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: starting with the pandemic when it hit, some changes you 97 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 1: had to make in the whole circle of communicating people, 98 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 1: your personal life, your business life. Phil you know, in 99 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: that pan didn't make hit this is uh in March. 100 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: We're actually on you know, past the Ada market within 101 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: Quarantine and Social Distancing and Sony Music. So we you know, 102 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: our meetings have been converted to all Microsoft Teams meetings, 103 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 1: so we're still getting some face time, but it's it's 104 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: a little different. Uh. You know, we were sharing all 105 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: of our meeting agendas and you know, data and sales 106 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 1: everything by way of the share feature of Microsoft Teams. 107 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: But it's just it's been quite a transition. But we've 108 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:58,479 Speaker 1: still been grateful to police music videos and songs because 109 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,159 Speaker 1: some music videos we had already in the can and 110 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:04,640 Speaker 1: then somebody actually created over during the pandemic. But we're 111 00:06:04,680 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 1: being very responsible with a very limited crew and social 112 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,280 Speaker 1: distance thing. We've still been recording songs and albums. He 113 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: still open recording music videos, one of which is Kirk 114 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: France's new video which just came out called Strong Guys. 115 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: So we actually capture that over the pandem. So can 116 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: you get that video to it so I can put 117 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 1: it on my social media and my newsletter because I 118 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: didn't know the name brother, you know me, I'm in 119 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: the marketing Google. You will have it in your inbox. Short, 120 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: my boy, you're my boy. You're talking about Kirk a 121 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: new song, come on man, Yeah, definitely and and and 122 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: it's so timely reshound of what Kirk's talking about. The 123 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 1: song is called strong Guy, and he's speaking about some 124 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: of the social injustices, you know, in our country and 125 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: just everything happening and he addressed depends there and it's 126 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 1: a really profound, such a powerful song, um and powerful video. 127 00:06:56,600 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely well. This month is Black Music month. Um I uh. 128 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 1: I talked to Diana Williams. I called her the mother 129 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 1: of Black History, of the brand ambassador of Black History. 130 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,880 Speaker 1: She's uh, she's incredible. I always tell her, I said, 131 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, we won't see like like what you. I 132 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,000 Speaker 1: don't see her enough. And this is gonna change in 133 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 1: the third and four quarter this year because we want 134 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:22,680 Speaker 1: the mission to change the game. And she was telling 135 00:07:22,680 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: me about the the Hall of Fame at the museum 136 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: that's opening in Nashville in the Labor Day weekend, know 137 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: that month of labor, the month of September. But let's 138 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: talk about black history, mark the importance of it, the 139 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: importance of black music period well as if it was 140 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: as a black man and as an executive at a 141 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: major record company. I telela, I celebrate black music. That's 142 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 1: just my position. But we're gonna put extra emphasis on 143 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: black music. You know about that black music. But when 144 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: you think about black music and black musicians, it is 145 00:07:57,480 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: they are the basis of all genres of music. Thing 146 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: about R and B blue hip hop, blue, let's talk 147 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 1: about R and B blom chazz, gospel, like so many 148 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:11,239 Speaker 1: genres of music were derived from just those initial genres 149 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: of music. Those are rock and roll country like, those 150 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: are created by black individuals. And so this is a 151 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,360 Speaker 1: month where we, you know, just salute and honor them. 152 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: I did it an ed piece of Billboards last year 153 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: about the importance of black music, and they continue are 154 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: important not only about black music for black executives. And 155 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: that's another thing in the other areas, because we also 156 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 1: need people in the board rooms and that these companies 157 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 1: to reflect the music that we're releasing at these trecord companies. Well, 158 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 1: you know, because it's really important because like you said 159 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: with Kurt Franklin, it's timely. Music is timely because music 160 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: plays a major portion, a major part in protests, made 161 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 1: a part of inspiring people. Music. Music, music is emotionally 162 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,960 Speaker 1: driven and that that emotion can turn into activation, which 163 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: you can turn into change. So so we've been a 164 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: guy who's been in the music business and because you're 165 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:07,040 Speaker 1: an inspiring figure, you know, you know that, you know that, 166 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: like you said, something you've been wanting to do since 167 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: you were twelve years old? What what? What those the 168 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 1: natural instincts of music that affects you feel music? Just 169 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: you know, I listened to what I'm happy. So what 170 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: I'm saying, I listened to her when it's trying times 171 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: and we're going through a crisis, like we're dealing with, 172 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: whether it's the pandemic or some of these horristic, you know, 173 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: traumatic events that we've witnessed. I've heard about. We've seen 174 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: the videos for brother George Floyd and Amara Arebury. We 175 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:38,240 Speaker 1: saw those videos. We saw and her that audio. So 176 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 1: you know, like when I think about the Civil Rights movement, 177 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:44,200 Speaker 1: you know, the actual movement itself, music was such a 178 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: part of that time, but it's such as you know, 179 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:49,400 Speaker 1: when I think about you know, the Curtis Mayfield and 180 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: the James Browns, and you know what I mean, like 181 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: a lot of these brothers, they were speaking to what 182 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: was happening during that time and to me, it's no difference. 183 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,320 Speaker 1: So to me, music when I listened to those songs, 184 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 1: I've listened on to the market gay actually, uh yesterday 185 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: and I'm in Dallas now, but you know, literally, I 186 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: was in my hotel just vibe and out and I'm like, man, 187 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:12,439 Speaker 1: just somethings haven't changed, But it's getting the lyrics still. 188 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: They're still here and that's a present. But it's just 189 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: that you think about that time and how to cope 190 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: and get through what we're dealing with now because we've 191 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:22,959 Speaker 1: seen this. My ancestors have seen this, my parents, my grandparents, 192 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,240 Speaker 1: my family, they've named this before because they made it 193 00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: on the other side and so we're weak. But music 194 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 1: is a is a source to getting to the other 195 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: side and coping and hoping. You still distressed and just 196 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: the anxiety that yeah, that's that's music for me. Wow, brother, brother, 197 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: there's also many of us dying. Marvin Gaye, I got 198 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: to I've got chills when you said that those lyrics. 199 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 1: Think about those lyrics and you know what I mean, 200 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: they still impact you the same way of us dying. Okay, 201 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,680 Speaker 1: you play that song right now on top of George Floyd. 202 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: You play that song right now on the mall. Mom Aubrey, 203 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: you play that song right now, on top of Brianna Taylor. 204 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: You play the song right now on Anybody that's black 205 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:11,520 Speaker 1: in America will understand what that is. People who may 206 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: not just hear that's good music, we hear that as 207 00:11:14,600 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 1: an anthem of truth in our community. And that's why, 208 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,079 Speaker 1: you know, that's why. That's why when when the whole 209 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: concept of Black Music Month and the month of June 210 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 1: was being recognized, I felt it was important because sometimes 211 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 1: we need to take a moment and say, this is 212 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: why music. This is why music makes a difference. You know, 213 00:11:31,679 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: you're this is why we're we're special to us, and 214 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,360 Speaker 1: that's why it's important that I'm talking about it and 215 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: you're you're being a person that delivers that content and 216 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: knows how it affects people, not only just in record sales, 217 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: but how they get up, how they live there to day, 218 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: how they celebrate weddings and birthdays and parties, and you know, 219 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: I know that when I was driving field. When I 220 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: was I drove from when the pandemic immediately hit, I 221 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: didn't fly. I drove from Atlanta to Houston, where my 222 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: family was at and so I loaded up by the 223 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty of my best songs. You know I didn't. 224 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't load up no talking book, no 225 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: audio book. I loaded up a hundred and fifty of 226 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,200 Speaker 1: my best songs that I hit the role. Brother. But 227 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 1: that's how he's told to do it, because just hope 228 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,199 Speaker 1: to the times goes the way because you think about 229 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 1: those weddings celebrations, You think about those cookouts and barbecues, 230 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: You think about those birthday parties like bio falls are 231 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: post anonymous against and a lot of them created by 232 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:35,959 Speaker 1: our very own people, all black people like present. Come on, 233 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:38,800 Speaker 1: my friend, I'm talking about man Field Thornton. He's uh 234 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: television producer, senior vice president, general manager r C, A inspiration, 235 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:46,160 Speaker 1: He's interspirations and number one label and gospel music. 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I feel even better about my life 278 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: when I've impacted our influenced individuals and let them know 279 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: that they can do what I do and do it bigger. 280 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: He's one of these other He's an individual that has 281 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: seen some of my steps, some of my walks some 282 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 1: of my accomplishments and been inspired by and then I 283 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: appreciate that every time he complishment and compliments me about it, 284 00:15:23,520 --> 00:15:26,240 Speaker 1: because that means I gotta work harder because I'm not through. Phil, 285 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:33,320 Speaker 1: I'm not through, okay, But you're the boy. We we 286 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: we can't tell him right now, but I know we're 287 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 1: working on the project that you can't be through until we. Man, 288 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: don't get me, mad man. This pandemic got me stopping, 289 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: the stopping, the stopping. But we're gonna get out there. Man. 290 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: Now you're the board of the National Museum of African 291 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:52,640 Speaker 1: American Music. Tell us about the museum. You know, I'm 292 00:15:52,640 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: super excited about the National Museum of African American Music, 293 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: which will be being National Tennessee opening. We're looking at 294 00:15:59,240 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 1: the September. I mean, the pandemic has really impacted our 295 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: you know, opening grand opening plans. But it's just all 296 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: things black music, RV CHAZ, hip hop, great game, gospel, 297 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 1: uh you you name it, and just it just it's 298 00:16:13,600 --> 00:16:17,840 Speaker 1: a really one destination. Located on Fifth and Broadway in National, Tennessee, 299 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: directly across the street from Bridge Stone Arena and on 300 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: the other interspaces, the Rhyman Auditorium, perfect location, but celebrating 301 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 1: all Thames Black music. We got artifacts in there, you've 302 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: got music, interactive activities. I mean it's as a movie 303 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: going and viewing the room. I mean it's it's incredible. Now, 304 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: now I know exactly what Bridge stones and I through 305 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: a lot of concerts and Steve Harry not winning there 306 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: and so that bad bar several times. Now, how did 307 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,200 Speaker 1: y'all get that location right there? Because that's a prime 308 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: real estate location. You're not buried at the end of 309 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: the corner. Around the corner, nobody see you right in 310 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: the primary fifty six thousand square feet dedicated to preserve it, educating, 311 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: suburbating after good Americans in their music, come on talking 312 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: about how do you get that? How do you on 313 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,440 Speaker 1: the board? You got some inside information? I got a 314 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: I got a little. You know, originally the actually the 315 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: location was gonna be on Jefferson Street. I don't know 316 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: if you knew that, but ritinally was gonna be on 317 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:14,159 Speaker 1: Jefferson which is iconic and iconic street. But um, we 318 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: ended up going downtown with the new development because the 319 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,680 Speaker 1: city of Nashville and the state of Tennessee. I gotta 320 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 1: say they've been extremely supportive of this whole you know, 321 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: the museum, uh, financial and otherwise, and everyone thought, why, 322 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, why have this cut away from where we 323 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,919 Speaker 1: can actually put it prime real estate as far as 324 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: this new Fifth and Broadway development that you know they 325 00:17:35,160 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: just built brand second new and just to have it 326 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:40,040 Speaker 1: in the heart of the city because just you know, 327 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: increase that foot traffic. Again, you can't get no better 328 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: location than the rhyme And I said, Bridge Stone and 329 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 1: some of the the you know, bars and everything down there. 330 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,880 Speaker 1: But it's gonna be restaurants in there in this whole 331 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:51,800 Speaker 1: new development. But it's what I mean, like it's the 332 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: fifty six thousand square feet um this is in Again 333 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: there's an educational component, but I'm loving that it's about 334 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: music and it's prime location. That that's fine real estate 335 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: right there. You are, Come on now the thing that 336 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: that's what I like about it because of the fact 337 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: that you want to, like I'm trying to do now 338 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: during this civil arrest, I'm educating people and it's important. 339 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: So if you educate people there know why you're frustrated 340 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: while you're why there's a need to be upset and 341 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: maybe you're joined the upset team, okay, instead of the 342 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: confused team. But the whereas that means that other other 343 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: other than African Americans will be able to, oh what's 344 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 1: that and walk in there and comfortably enjoy the experience 345 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: because the National Museum of African African American History and 346 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: Culture in DC is off the chain. You can't even 347 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,399 Speaker 1: get in any place. And that's the goal of what 348 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:41,960 Speaker 1: you guys are trying to accomplish with the museum in Nashville. Correct, absolutely, 349 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:44,239 Speaker 1: and where I can't wait to people seeing. I mean 350 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: it's I've seen all these sketches and I actually did 351 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: a hard hat tour recently. It is phenomenal. Now it's 352 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: in free admission or donations. How how does that work 353 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,640 Speaker 1: as far as the entry, Yes, sir, yeah, there will 354 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: be being an emergent ticket for the attend the museum, 355 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, but yeah, every ticket in group fails available. Awesome. 356 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: That is that's important to say that. Now has a 357 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:10,080 Speaker 1: I know I'm talking in June, just just turn June 358 00:19:10,160 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 1: and Septembers and potential has a lineup been set yet 359 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: or potential? This is what we're gonna do on the 360 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: inaugural day of the event because you know, President Obama 361 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:23,639 Speaker 1: was at the inaugural event and uh for the African 362 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: American Museum. So was just that opening week opening day 363 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 1: looking at If you don't have it on your agenda yet, 364 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:31,640 Speaker 1: you can tell me. But I'm just trying to get 365 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: some sneak sneak sneak peak information from our listeners, you know. 366 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: And originally, you know, before the pandemic, we had this elaborate, 367 00:19:40,000 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: bigger grand opening for September. But due to the you know, 368 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: the current circumstances, we're reevaluating everything to see what makes sense. 369 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,159 Speaker 1: But I will tell you that said, we have a 370 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,639 Speaker 1: huge gonna be a huge celebration either way, even though 371 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 1: we have to move the actual opening celebrations back a 372 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: two months. We've got some big, big, big names and 373 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: ben for our Legend Gale that we host. You know, 374 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: any Lee Dan Williams when you mentioned earlier, the co 375 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: founder and mother Black Music, She and I, you know, 376 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,160 Speaker 1: co chair the you know, the Legend Gale a couple 377 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: of years ago, and so we're actually gonna co chair 378 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 1: the next one and honor I'll tell you one of 379 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: the biggest artists in the world. That's all I'll say 380 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: right there, well, I know, come on now, the biggest artists, 381 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 1: come on, now, we got is. I'm not gonna miss 382 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: I'm not eve gonna mess with you like that. I'm 383 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: not gonna mess with that because because it's only one. 384 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: You know, Michael Jackson did Okay, she she left out 385 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 1: that by herself. I'm just gonna say some I just 386 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 1: said one of the biggest artists. Perfect everyone. I love it. 387 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:44,480 Speaker 1: I love talking to you. Now. Let's let's talk about 388 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 1: what are some of the ways in your eyes, you 389 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 1: see music industry changing over next several years, Because you know, 390 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 1: we've seen how labels and people are dropping their own music, 391 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: the digital growth of digital and everything as far as 392 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,680 Speaker 1: the music injuwy concern. What do you see now with 393 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: the music industry over the next several years? Feel I 394 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,720 Speaker 1: see the increased growth of our independent labels. I think 395 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna see even more. We've seen them a huge 396 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 1: ride already, but I think we're gonna see more uh 397 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: indie labels popping up and just having more strategic partnerships 398 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 1: with majors. There will always be a place your major 399 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: record labels because that the added services and the value 400 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: they add with you know, some of the accountant. On 401 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 1: the sink licensing level, there's a lot of value of 402 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: majors add so I still see majors having a place. 403 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,800 Speaker 1: I just think the relationship will change where I think 404 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna see a huge increase of independent labels and 405 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 1: artists and producer only. I think we're gonna get big 406 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: d R right. I know my intro. I just spoke 407 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:43,680 Speaker 1: to Nerica. I said music industries, academic, television user and 408 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: all that stuff. But tell us about some of the 409 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 1: artists that you you you manage and some of the 410 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: people you've had at your label that you work with. 411 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 1: So people here a clear understanding feel of your body 412 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 1: of work and why I'm so how and you you 413 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: know your accomplishment at such a young age, and your 414 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 1: your television h features that you've been out there that 415 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: you pitched and as well as Adam executed. Telling us 416 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: about a little bit more in detail, and uh, you 417 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 1: know the floor is yours as well. On the on 418 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 1: the management side, you know, I'm a little bit older 419 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: than I look, but you know I U I've managed 420 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 1: everyone from Faith Evan to Kenny Lattimore to the group 421 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: s w V. You know I was instrument want to 422 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: reunited them in they years back and work with them. 423 00:22:27,320 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: So I've worked at a wide range there. I've managed actors, 424 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 1: you know Mac Wild, I had worked with Michael B. 425 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 1: Jordan's for abrief Stead. I mean, I've worked with a 426 00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: wide range of talent in addition to producing some of 427 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: you know, great TV shows for Lifetime. I didn't Surviving 428 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 1: Content movie that was you know, Biopico, mich Lay. I've 429 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:46,720 Speaker 1: also done you know, the R and B DVA series 430 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: in the Man World on for BT and TV. One 431 00:22:49,359 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: of those shows I've lived on. But yeah, just you know, 432 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: those are just some of the artists. And then on 433 00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 1: when I worked at my previous company E one, you know, 434 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: I worked with life of Layla Hathaway. We won three 435 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: Grammys together for her live album and you know now 436 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: we said nine weeks the number one with the song Angel, 437 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: but also had the fun You're working with the iconic 438 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:11,160 Speaker 1: Shirley Caesar and with instrumental working with my family over 439 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: w and w uh. You know you want to secure 440 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 1: her her star on the Walk of Thames Walking. I 441 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: was so again again, I've worked with some of the best, 442 00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: the best, and I'm completely grateful. I would do it 443 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 1: again again, just greatful to have all these different touchpoints 444 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: of people on TV, music, film, It's incredible. We don't 445 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: don't well. The thing about it is, you know, I've 446 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 1: been fortunate to slide alone that same run. You know, 447 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: being a talent manager, which is a whole different langue, 448 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 1: and being in the television producer's a whole different lane. 449 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,239 Speaker 1: Drop to CD with my man Osley with Ron Ron 450 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: Easley back in the day when he was over the 451 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:50,800 Speaker 1: Island Records. So each genre called for a different hat. 452 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: How do you manage all the different hats and maintain 453 00:23:55,119 --> 00:24:01,119 Speaker 1: your sanity? My team, my team in each area with 454 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: each venture and each relationship, whether it's an artist I'm managing, 455 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 1: whether it's a TV show I'm producing, so whether it's 456 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:09,960 Speaker 1: my birth day of the label, it is the team 457 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: in those respective areas that I rely on and trust 458 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 1: and support because I may have the initial baby, you 459 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: know how this, We may have that initial idea, but 460 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,399 Speaker 1: we're nothing about the people to help with textecutes. So 461 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta give credit to my team. I 462 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,640 Speaker 1: could not do it. So, whether it's my production crew 463 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: on one of my TV or film projects, or again 464 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 1: my artists that I may manage all of the day 465 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 1: to day people be accounting the alterney, the assistance, like 466 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 1: we couldn't do without them. So that that's me is 467 00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: how I'm able to balance and juggle at all. And 468 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:41,320 Speaker 1: it is a juggle. But I'm also making sure I'm 469 00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:44,520 Speaker 1: getting making time for me as well, my mental, my physical, 470 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,640 Speaker 1: my just my overall standards. So that's important too. Awesome, 471 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:52,320 Speaker 1: awesome and closing, you know, I you know gospel music. 472 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: Does gospel music get the respect it gets? As far 473 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 1: as you know, you're a pop you have R and B, 474 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 1: hipp up and all these genres kind of like explode 475 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: and and in the industries for its video or views 476 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: as far as sales, what and in gospel has influences, 477 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 1: influences at all. You know, it's the it's the basis 478 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 1: of everything happening pop, so R and B all at 479 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,720 Speaker 1: hip hop? What? What is? What? What do your what 480 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: is the state of your thoughts about gospel music as 481 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: a genre when you talk about music in general? You 482 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: know what gospel has gone back, you know when you 483 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: came back to to the seventeen seventeenth century has been around. 484 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 1: It's one of those beginning of genres, the foundations of 485 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: what we call American music to this day actually actually 486 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,720 Speaker 1: doing the pandemic gospel. Interesting enough, with one of the 487 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: few gals that we saw entries in streaming down that 488 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,920 Speaker 1: is that that you know, So that's that is a 489 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: testament to the longevity and no gospel it's not going anywhere. 490 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:00,040 Speaker 1: I mean, we just did versus online Sattle with a 491 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 1: celebration should I say, with Kirk Franklin and Fred Hammond, 492 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, just you know a little while ago, and 493 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: just to see the outpouring of love and support from 494 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: everybody from Kerry Washington to Snoop Dogg just literally part 495 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: of this celebration and just to see the numbers and 496 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: people celebrating with something gospel music on the big stage 497 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 1: and so gospel absolutely, I think it's gonna get better 498 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: some of these new artists, uh in the marketplace, like 499 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: your current Hawthorns you're Travis Green and Johnson mcgremold's. It's 500 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: it's a bright spot. It's a bright spot to gospel 501 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: going forward. So we're gonna continue to celebrate with Kirk 502 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 1: Franklin and you're line to Adams or a married Mary 503 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: and the people we know, I love, but we're also 504 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: gonna pay it for But I think the future was 505 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: extremely bright for you like that. And you said, Travis Green, 506 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 1: I love that young man. Look crazy. I love that 507 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: young man. You know it's a beautiful thing as usual. 508 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:52,320 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on the show. 509 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 1: You owe me Kurt Franklin's video and you over a 510 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: eachthing body else you need to drop bringing the Rushan McDonald, 511 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,440 Speaker 1: I drop it on all my social I got a 512 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: ninety thousand fan club based and I set out every 513 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: Friday nine am newsletter that goes out. I will support you. 514 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: Feel you're my man. You are my inspiration. You're perfectly 515 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: tied to the label. Inspiration is the number one label 516 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 1: and gospel music. Phil thank you for coming on Money 517 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: Making Conversations. 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