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Speaker 1: Welcome to Good Game with Sarah Spain, where we're googling

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Speaker 1: what's the job of an advisory board and is it

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Speaker 1: supposed to only include celebrities and influencers?

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Speaker 2: And also what is a torrent? And is it that

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Speaker 2: thing that causes a computer virus?

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Speaker 1: It's Friday, November seventh, and on today's show will be

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Speaker 1: answering those questions and talking to former Iowa hoops coach

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Speaker 1: at new NBC sports analyst Lisa Bluter about her new

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Speaker 1: role behind the broadcast desk, watching her former players hoop

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Speaker 1: in the pros, her twenty plus year career leading Iowa

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Speaker 1: women's basketball, and what it's like being.

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Speaker 2: At the center of the Caitlin Clark commotion.

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Speaker 1: Plus pulling out the dictionary to get to know our

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Speaker 1: new teams hooping in the off season, and the age

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Speaker 1: old question WWMD. It's all coming up right after this

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Speaker 1: Welcome back slices, Happy Friday. Here's what you need to

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Speaker 1: know today. Let's start with the NWSL and this weekend's

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Speaker 1: four quarter final matchups. The playoffs get underway tonight with

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Speaker 1: the number four Orlando Pro hosting the number five Seattle

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Speaker 1: Rain at seven pm Eastern. Now, the Rain have been

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Speaker 1: in Orlando all week they stuck around after these two

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Speaker 1: teams played to a draw last weekend. For me, this

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Speaker 1: game is going to be about strategy and seniority. First,

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Speaker 1: what kind of changes might these coaches make to mix

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Speaker 1: things up and show some new looks after having just

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Speaker 1: matched up last weekend?

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Speaker 2: Second?

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Speaker 1: How will the og vets on these teams impact things?

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Speaker 1: Will the rain have a little extra energy trying to

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Speaker 1: send retiring teammate Lauren Barnes out in style? On the

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Speaker 1: other side, WWMD, what will Marta do? She lives for

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Speaker 1: big games postseason, Marta is always a thrill.

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Speaker 2: What will she do this year?

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Speaker 1: On Saturday, the number two Washington Spirit host Number seven

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Speaker 1: Racing Louisville at twelve pm Eastern And this one comes

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Speaker 1: down to availability, composure.

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Speaker 2: And crowd.

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Speaker 1: Who's available and one hundred percent healthy? For the Spirit

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Speaker 1: they send a limited roster on the road last weekend?

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Speaker 1: Was that mostly just about rest or how many players

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Speaker 1: are coming and hobbled. Can a notoriously physical and oft

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Speaker 1: Penali Racing team show the composure that they found late

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Speaker 1: in the season and harness all their excitement for good

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Speaker 1: or will their first playoff outing be marred? By impetuous

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Speaker 1: or reckless play. Finally, how much will the rowdy Audi

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Speaker 1: crowd factor in tough place to play always in the postseason?

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Speaker 1: Woof The quarterfinal round wraps up Sunday with two matches. First,

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Speaker 1: number one Kansas City Current hosting number eight Gotham FC

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Speaker 1: at twelve thirty pm Eastern. Now, fun fact from the

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Speaker 1: folks over at the Full Time podcast, Gotham have never

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Speaker 1: beat the Current, not once in their ten NWSL meetings,

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Speaker 1: and the Current have been a buzzsaw all season long,

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Speaker 1: So really this is only an interesting game to me.

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Speaker 1: If good Gotham shows up, they got to look better

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Speaker 1: than last week, and just like the Spirit, there are

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Speaker 1: questions about who's healthy and available who sat last week

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Speaker 1: for rest versus injury that might be lingering into this matchup.

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Speaker 1: We've seen got Theam win it all from the bottom

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Speaker 1: where they haven't lost a game since July sixth, the

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty five war Sheesh. The second Sunday matchup is

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Speaker 1: the number three Portland Thorns hosting the number six San

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Speaker 1: Diego Wave at three pm Eastern. The Thorns surprised US

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Speaker 1: while the Wave had a much better first half of

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Speaker 1: it's going to depend on which team shows up on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Possession points and Providence Park will decide this one. Wave

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Speaker 1: can they turn that control into actual points and finish

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Speaker 1: team might get the boost they need from a rowdy

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Speaker 1: Olivia Moultrie or Sam Coffee, which may be all they need. Remember,

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Speaker 1: we had the athletics to Mark Griffin on the show

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Speaker 1: to chat all Things quarter Finals on Wednesday, so if

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Speaker 2: More NWSL, The.

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Speaker 1: League has announced the formation of a new advisory board,

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Speaker 1: calling the group a quote first of its kind initiative,

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Speaker 1: into its Star Studed investment group feels like a smart idea,

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Speaker 1: We're curious to see how the expertise and advice of

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Speaker 1: this particular group will be implemented to the PWHL. The

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Speaker 1: and the Vancouver Goldeneyes Alex Google Torrent, which Merriam Webster

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Speaker 1: The golden Eye's name is a nod to a type

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Speaker 1: the season between the newly dubbed Goldeneyes and Torrent on

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Speaker 1: November twenty first to unrivaled rosters for season two of

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Speaker 1: and Laces were allowed to retain two players from their

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Speaker 1: Oguo Mackay has announced that she's signed a contract with

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Speaker 1: Juju Watkins maybe sidelined for the season, but she's still

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Speaker 1: making moves. On Thursday, the usc Guard announced she's joined

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Speaker 1: With a press release describing Watkins's quote the first college

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Speaker 1: Unrivaled investment was for the league as a whole. More hoops,

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Speaker 1: this weekend's games, which includes two top twenty five matchups.

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Speaker 1: Over the course of the last eight days, the school

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Speaker 1: Board of Supervisors to find a place to put a

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Speaker 1: Which LSU star Hooper Flage Johnson responded with the social

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Speaker 1: discriminatory views toward people of color, I respectfully asked that

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Speaker 1: Fair Offlage to question a Kirk statue on a campus

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Speaker 1: hate speech stuff, but there's another hoops connection. LSU basketball

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Speaker 1: coach Kim Mulky expressed sadness about the departure of former

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Speaker 1: of new ad Verge Osbury.

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Speaker 2: Here's what she had.

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Speaker 4: Me, So, anytime a coach is hired by somebody, you

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Speaker 4: have special feelings. My feelings are far deeper because I'm

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Speaker 4: good about this state. So I'm happy I heard Verge

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Speaker 3: Hi, Lisa, Hello, Sarah. It's good to see you.

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Speaker 3: You know. I never really thought about retiring. I didn't

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Speaker 1: And like you said, it's kind of hard to convince

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Speaker 1: pros in front of a bigger national audience. Kaitlin Clark,

438
00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:17,440
Speaker 1: Kate Martin, Megan Gustafson. Is it nerve wracking to watch

439
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,040
Speaker 1: them or are you able to just settle back and

440
00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:19,720
Speaker 1: enjoy the game?

441
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:24,160
Speaker 3: Not near is nerve wracking as coaching? For sure? Yeah,

442
00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:26,840
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just so proud of them. They've they've

443
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: you know, and Caitlyn first sort of playing basketball in

444
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:33,639
Speaker 3: Carver Hawky Arena. There was a bunch of cardboard cutouts there. Okay,

445
00:21:33,720 --> 00:21:36,359
Speaker 3: so it was COVID. There was nobody in the stands.

446
00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 3: So to go from that to where she is, now,

447
00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,399
Speaker 3: what a journey, you know. But I'm so proud of

448
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,919
Speaker 3: those three and and all. You know, some of the

449
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 3: other great players that I had that haven't been able

450
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 3: to make it in the WNBA. But you know, that's

451
00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:51,399
Speaker 3: that's your legacy, right, and that's what you're just so

452
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,200
Speaker 3: you're so happy for those guys.

453
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:56,479
Speaker 1: You mentioned the change for Caitlyn in particular, but for

454
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:59,720
Speaker 1: you twenty plus years there, how did things change and

455
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 1: how different did it feel the last couple of years

456
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,320
Speaker 1: as the madness around Caitlin grew. For you as a

457
00:22:05,359 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 1: coach who've been in the same building space city, but

458
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 1: watching everything blow.

459
00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:16,000
Speaker 3: Up, it was rewarding, you know. I mean, it's what

460
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,920
Speaker 3: you dream of, right, It's what you want, what your

461
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: goals are, what you're trying to achieve. And it really

462
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 3: hit me when we had the crossover in Kinnick. I

463
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:27,880
Speaker 3: mean people have asked me, like, you know, what were

464
00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:30,840
Speaker 3: your highlight moments? And you know, I mean, certainly the

465
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 3: championship games were highlight moments, but the crossover in Kinnick

466
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,920
Speaker 3: to me, is more meaningful because we took over Kinnick Stadium,

467
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,399
Speaker 3: We put a basketball floor down there, invited people to

468
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,840
Speaker 3: come in, and we had over fifty five five hundred

469
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 3: people there and for that, you know, there was women

470
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:53,080
Speaker 3: crying in the audience because they were so moved by

471
00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 3: what was happening for women's athletics. It was it was

472
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,480
Speaker 3: really touching, and we raised a quarter of a million

473
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 3: dollars or the University of Iowa Children's Hospital, and it

474
00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:07,240
Speaker 3: just showed us what we can accomplish when women come

475
00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 3: together and really support each other. And I think that's

476
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,000
Speaker 3: one of our most proud you know moments that we had.

477
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 3: And yeah, it was it was special.

478
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 1: No, I'm gettels thinking about it because I love there

479
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 1: are women from a different generation and era and their

480
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,280
Speaker 1: excitement and emotion over what they're seeing now, particularly those

481
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,920
Speaker 1: who never really got the opportunity to fulfill or see

482
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:33,679
Speaker 1: their own greatness be recognized in a space that it

483
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,720
Speaker 1: deserved in that game, the volleyball.

484
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:37,240
Speaker 2: Game in Nebraska.

485
00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:41,160
Speaker 1: These incredible, you know, nearly one hundred thousand sometimes people

486
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:42,879
Speaker 1: showing up for women's sports in different spaces.

487
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 2: It's just incredible.

488
00:23:44,440 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 1: Did you have advice for Caitlin about handling the fame

489
00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: and pressure that came with her rise as it was happening.

490
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 3: Oh, you know you talk a lot, right, You talk

491
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,679
Speaker 3: a lot with your players about what's going on, and

492
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,360
Speaker 3: you know, you talk to the rest of the team too,

493
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 3: not just Caitlin, but you know they're there too, and

494
00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,880
Speaker 3: you have to make sure you bring everybody along an

495
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,439
Speaker 3: order for to have any success, because if you know,

496
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,880
Speaker 3: players three, four, five are freaking out, you know, then

497
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,560
Speaker 3: right you've lost, You've lost your team. So it wasn't

498
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 3: just Caitlin that had to manage that. It was the

499
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: entire team that had to manage that. And I'm really

500
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,240
Speaker 3: proud of them. I'm really proud of the women that

501
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,720
Speaker 3: weren't Caitlin because they were busting their butts every day.

502
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: They were working, you know, extremely hard, and you know,

503
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: and yet deservedly so. Caitlyn was getting you know, the

504
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 3: attention and the media and the publicity deals. Again, she

505
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 3: deserved all that. There's no nobody who was doubting that.

506
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 3: But you know, I'm proud of the women that worked

507
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:47,159
Speaker 3: to help her get that spotlight.

508
00:24:47,480 --> 00:24:50,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it can be difficult even if you love

509
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,000
Speaker 1: your teammate and you think they're deserving to still feel

510
00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: like you're ever in their shadow, particularly because you're recruiting

511
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 1: some of the best of the best and they show

512
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: up and they want to have their talent recognized as well.

513
00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,719
Speaker 1: What was best part about coaching Caitlyn.

514
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 3: I think the best part about coaching Caitlin was just

515
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: seeing her behind the scenes, you know, just being a

516
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 3: part of her life off the basketball court too. I

517
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 3: mean the basketball court provided all the wow moments, right,

518
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 3: I mean I got wow moments in practice, you know,

519
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 3: seeing some of the things that she did, the passes

520
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,840
Speaker 3: she made, the scoring, and just the lack of fear

521
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:30,280
Speaker 3: that she had. But to me, the highlights is probably

522
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,639
Speaker 3: the fun times, you know, being in covid and going

523
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 3: down to San Antonio and being locked in the Lakita

524
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 3: Hotel with your team.

525
00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 2: I'm sure it wasn't ins and sweets.

526
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 3: We had a slogan, live love life Lakita. I mean

527
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,480
Speaker 3: that's what we live by till we got to move

528
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 3: over to the Marriott when we made the Sweet sixteen.

529
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 3: But you know, those are the times that you just remember,

530
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:59,879
Speaker 3: is the goofy Caitlin, the Caitlin that you know is

531
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 3: not on show, but just being herself, because she honestly

532
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 3: is one of the most enjoyable people to be around.

533
00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 3: She's funny, she laughs hard, and she loves big and

534
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 3: when she gets your trust, she loves big.

535
00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,639
Speaker 2: Toughest part about coaching Caitlin.

536
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 3: The toughest part is sometimes she can be a little

537
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: stubborn and as I can be as well, and so

538
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: for you know, that can be this sometimes. But the

539
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 3: good thing is that she was always willing to learn

540
00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,399
Speaker 3: and she wanted to be her best, so she would

541
00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:37,360
Speaker 3: take it. She took coaching like she wanted to be coached.

542
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 3: But the hardest thing, and I've said this before, is that,

543
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,199
Speaker 3: you know, the transformation from high school to college I

544
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: don't think was really easy for her. She didn't understand

545
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:52,200
Speaker 3: how to play with other teammates because in high school

546
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 3: she did everything, you know, on her.

547
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: Own shoes and you could win that way.

548
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, and so now it's like, well, you've got

549
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 3: to embrace your teammates. One thing she said to me

550
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 3: one time is well, they're not shooting as much as

551
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: I am. And I'm like, well, you're bringing them to

552
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:08,679
Speaker 3: the gym with you, you know, So she learned those things.

553
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 3: She learned how to be a great teammate, and that

554
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:13,239
Speaker 3: was probably one of the hardest, you know, lessons that

555
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 3: we had to teach her. But now I watch her

556
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 3: with the fever and I think she's a great teammate.

557
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 3: I mean from the outside, yeah, okay, I feel like,

558
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 3: you know, there's camaraderie there. I feel like there's joy

559
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: for each other there. So I think those lessons she

560
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: learned at Iowa have really gone with her to the WNBA. Yeah.

561
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 1: I'm a Chicago girl, so I don't make Michael Jordan

562
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,240
Speaker 1: comparisons very often, but there are a few things that

563
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,639
Speaker 1: stand out. Whether that's the famous practice where her team

564
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: was down and she came back and like whatever it was,

565
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,320
Speaker 1: Gordon say a number of points in one minute.

566
00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 2: We've heard about that with Jordan and the.

567
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: Dream Team practices, or if it's figuring out how to

568
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 1: harness competitiveness and a desire for everyone to be as

569
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: good as you are into making people better instead of

570
00:27:57,840 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: frustrating them or condescending them.

571
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: And we've seen that journey for her. It's really hard.

572
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: It's not an easy thing to do, especially as a

573
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: young person, but that ability to turn that into greatness

574
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 1: instead of something that holds you back. Clearly is something

575
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 1: she's continuing to work on. Is just going to make

576
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 1: her even better and better. Were you surprised in that

577
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: first year of the w when she got to the fever,

578
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:21,400
Speaker 1: the toxicity around that rivalry between her and Angel Reese

579
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: and the way it sort of became the story of

580
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,160
Speaker 1: a league that.

581
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:26,439
Speaker 2: Had so much else to talk about.

582
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm disappointed. I was disappointed in that because there

583
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 3: is so much else to talk about, and these are

584
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,480
Speaker 3: two young women that are just starting their careers and

585
00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,959
Speaker 3: you know, don't need that extra pressure or that extra

586
00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,360
Speaker 3: They don't need that. I mean, it was all created

587
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 3: by the media, and that's unfortunate for those two players.

588
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 3: So I'm really sad that that happened because I don't

589
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 3: want the WNBA to get attention or get viewership because

590
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,640
Speaker 3: of those type of things. I want to get viewership

591
00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: because of the great play, the great game that we have.

592
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,520
Speaker 3: You know, let's support that and quit talking about this

593
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 3: other stuff.

594
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, it created some interesting thought exercises about

595
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: is all press good press? And also how do you

596
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: get the folks who aren't really watching and don't really

597
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: know it to talk about it on platforms everyone goes

598
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: to and is it a positive when they do, even

599
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: if they don't really know what they're talking about?

600
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: Right?

601
00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: And that's ultimately what we saw so often was the

602
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 1: Angel versus Caitlin made it easy for shows like First

603
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: Take to talk about as opposed to them trying to

604
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: analyze whether this was one of the best rookie classes

605
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 1: we'd seen if they'd never watched any of the previous classes.

606
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: Right. But one of the things that kept.

607
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 1: Coming up, I think during that time was the history

608
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: of black players in the w and College having talked

609
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 1: about receiving more racist abuse and harassment from fans, getting

610
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: less in terms of endorsements and attention, and not always

611
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,640
Speaker 1: being the center of the media spotlight, even if they

612
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,760
Speaker 1: were as talented as white counterparts. We often saw players

613
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 1: from Brianna Stewart to Pagebackers talking about that at various spaces,

614
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:03,000
Speaker 1: and it it's frustrating because it's coming from in some cases,

615
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: quote unquote fans who just want to project narratives onto

616
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 1: players and use their identities to prop up agendas, or.

617
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 2: From media who want to use the sort of rage

618
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: and engage model of the Internet to get.

619
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: People to fight about stuff instead of talk about the basketball.

620
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,719
Speaker 1: Did that topic ever come up for you in the

621
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: locker room? Did you ever feel like you needed to

622
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: address it as a coach, either understanding what Iowa was

623
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 1: doing or where the players were going to end up

624
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 1: if they did make it to the pros.

625
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: You know, it's more within our own team that we

626
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: talked about it more about what each of us are enduring.

627
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 3: That we don't know what everybody else is enduring. We

628
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 3: don't know what it's like to walking into another person's shoes.

629
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 3: So one of our things at IOWA we've really tried

630
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 3: to do was we spent time getting to know each other.

631
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:50,680
Speaker 3: And I don't mean surface, I mean digging in and

632
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 3: what really bothers you? What was it like for you

633
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 3: to grow up in such and such a place, or

634
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,239
Speaker 3: go to this church, or have parents like this or

635
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,960
Speaker 3: and so we really dug into that and it would

636
00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 3: get emotional at times. And you know, I think a

637
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 3: lot of people say, always spend time with our team.

638
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 3: There's a difference between spending time with your team and

639
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 3: really digging in and learning about somebody and understanding them

640
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 3: better because you're seeing things from their perspective, and so

641
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 3: I'm proud of the work that we did with that

642
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 3: when way were at Iowa.

643
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you can't always make your teammates

644
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 1: your best friends. But if you'd imagine playing with your

645
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,080
Speaker 1: best friends, the kind of care you'd give them when

646
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: they struggled.

647
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: The way you would want to see them succeed.

648
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: If you can create those bonds through those connections of

649
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: deep understanding, you're more likely to see a team of

650
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: people that really want to work together towards something which

651
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,200
Speaker 1: seems really smart when there are so many outside kind

652
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: of things trying to dig in. Okay, quick speed round.

653
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:52,600
Speaker 1: Thing you miss the most about coaching practice? Yeah, thing

654
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: you missed the least about coaching recruiting.

655
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 2: You don't like recruiting.

656
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 3: I like the part when you get to them a

657
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 3: little bit. I'm not a fan of sitting in a

658
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: gym for twelve hours straight and starting to get blurry

659
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 3: eyed and I can't hear anymore because I've heard so

660
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 3: many whistles and horns and squeaky shoes all day, and

661
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 3: I've eaten this Freddy popcorn for lunch.

662
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 2: And is this player that good? Or is the coach good?

663
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: Or is this player could be better if the coach wasn't.

664
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:22,640
Speaker 2: This was supposed to be a speed round.

665
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 1: But that has me thinking, clearly, you know a thing

666
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,480
Speaker 1: or two about recruiting, because we had Muffett mcgrawn. She

667
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: talked about recruiting Caitlyn, getting her to commit to Notre Dame,

668
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,320
Speaker 1: and then you know, Caitlyn changed her mind and went

669
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:32,760
Speaker 1: to Iowa.

670
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: What do you remember about that? And was there any

671
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,760
Speaker 2: heart sell the last minute for you to get her

672
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: to make the switch.

673
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 3: No, the cell came earlier, right, I mean, once she

674
00:32:41,240 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 3: told us she was not coming to I wish she

675
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 3: was going to Notre Dame, it was over. I mean,

676
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,080
Speaker 3: we didn't, you know, pry into that at all, but

677
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 3: we did notice, Okay, she hasn't posted anything after she

678
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 3: cut us. She hasn't and now now it's weeks are passing,

679
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: and so I think we put a call into her

680
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 3: au coach just to find out what was going on

681
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 3: that kind of I realized then that she wasn't fully

682
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 3: on board with her decision to go to Notre Dame.

683
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 3: And so you know, there was no cell at the end.

684
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 3: She called me up and I can remember exactly where

685
00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 3: I was sitting what we were eating when she called,

686
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 3: and I went out into the alley to get the

687
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 3: because I knew I was going to be exuberant if she,

688
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: you know, did commit to us. And she said, do

689
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 3: you still have a spot for me? Yes? I do,

690
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 3: I do. I didn't take long, so there was no

691
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 3: cell at the end. The cell happened really the years,

692
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 3: the years leading to that decision.

693
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:39,160
Speaker 1: My producer Alex says, the restaurant should rename whatever dish

694
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: you were having is the Caitlin Clark commitment, and then

695
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 1: people can go in there and tell I want some good.

696
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 1: It's like that Marry Me chicken. You know, you go

697
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: and you need something good to happen. You go eat

698
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: the Caitlin Clark commitment and it somehow tells the universe

699
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: that you need something to come back to you.

700
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 3: That's a great idea.

701
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: I love that story.

702
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,719
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it's it's a very sort of

703
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,360
Speaker 1: like when the kids sit at the table with the

704
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:01,640
Speaker 1: hats to say where they're going.

705
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: It was the longest edition of the psych Out on

706
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 2: that one. She held the Notre Dame hat out for

707
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 2: weeks before she pulled it back.

708
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 1: Psych Iowa, Yeah, what's the toughest part about creating a

709
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: new routine after twenty plus years in the same place

710
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: doing the same thing.

711
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,720
Speaker 3: The toughest part of making a new routine probably sleep.

712
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 3: I mean it's like, you know, when you're a coach,

713
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 3: your sleep is so sporadic. You're up late many nights,

714
00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 3: you're getting up early. It's just crazy sleep. You sleep

715
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 3: in airplanes or whatever you can do. So having a

716
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: normal like kind of opportunity to sleep has been different,

717
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 3: you know. And I have a husband of forty some years,

718
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 3: and so getting you know, hey, we got our you.

719
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 2: See him, you see him, We got you know.

720
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: That's your side of the house. This is my side

721
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 3: of the Yeah, okay.

722
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,240
Speaker 1: The nice thing about your husband for this particular situation

723
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 1: is I believe he is an author and those folks

724
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: will disappear for hours. So if you need to replicate

725
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: what it was like for all your coaching years, tell

726
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:56,240
Speaker 1: him to go work on the book.

727
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 3: Give yourself a space. That's a good point. He's working

728
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 3: on a second.

729
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 2: There we go, there we go.

730
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's the thing you miss most about life on campus?

731
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 3: The energy? You know, just you'll walk across campus and

732
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 3: there's all these young people and everybody's got a kind

733
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: of bounce to their step, and it's beautiful, right. The

734
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,320
Speaker 3: Iowa campus is gorgeous, and so you know, it's really

735
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,200
Speaker 3: just the energy, the camaraderie.

736
00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,880
Speaker 1: I like being back on campuses for things, being surrounded

737
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,720
Speaker 1: by people who are in the midst of like thinking

738
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:25,239
Speaker 1: and spending a lot of time pondering.

739
00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 2: And I really loved school, so I missed that part

740
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:27,799
Speaker 2: of it.

741
00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: Well, that was a more intellectual answer than mine, was No, And.

742
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: The energy of the young people, of course, yes, I

743
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 1: love young people.

744
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: Sure, sure. Well.

745
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: Part of your new routine is joining the NBC broadcast

746
00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: team as a women's basketball College count Down studio analyst.

747
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: And you worked the Big Ten, Big Twelve, Big East

748
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: games on NBC and Peacock for them, so that's going

749
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:50,080
Speaker 1: to be fun seeing you calling those games. You actually

750
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: worked for Big Ten Network during the twenty twenty five

751
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 1: Big Ten Women's Basketball Tournament, so you've gotten your feet wet.

752
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,480
Speaker 1: What excites you about this full season opportunity that you

753
00:35:58,520 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: now have just to.

754
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,680
Speaker 3: Stay in time to it the game. I'm excited about it.

755
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: I'm excited to learn something new, right, Like you know,

756
00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:07,400
Speaker 3: it's it's fun at my age to be able to

757
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,879
Speaker 3: learn something new and get excited about something and look

758
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 3: forward to something. And so I'm I'm looking forward to

759
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 3: learning more about the profession and growing through it and

760
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 3: just staying involved with the game. But I don't know

761
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: how much I'm gonna do. I'm not gonna be like

762
00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: trying to take anybody's job away from it. That's not

763
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: what I want to do. I want to fill in

764
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,600
Speaker 3: when they need me, when they want me. But you know,

765
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 3: I'm not here to like be a full time or

766
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 3: anything like that. I want to I want to enjoy

767
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: my retirement as well.

768
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,359
Speaker 1: Do you think even if you didn't take this job,

769
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 1: you'd still be watching a ton of college hoops or

770
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: what a part of you want to try to get

771
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: into stuff you haven't really had the time for before.

772
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,799
Speaker 3: Now, I'd probably still watch some college hoops. It's just

773
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 3: once it's in your blood, you know. I actually get

774
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,239
Speaker 3: to watch more now that I'm retired, obviously. I guess

775
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: maybe that's obvious than I did when I was coaching,

776
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 3: because when you're coaching, you're just really watching your team

777
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 3: and your opponents. You don't get to be, you know,

778
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 3: watching that many teams from outside of your conference, and

779
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 3: so it's fun to see a lot more teams from

780
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 3: you know, around the country.

781
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: Now, yeah, what's who are some of your favorite analysts

782
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: or folks that you look to as an example of

783
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: a job well done that You're like, I don't want

784
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 1: to copy them, but I'm taking notes.

785
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 3: I had about an hour conversation with Debbie ant in

786
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 3: La yesterday. I just think she's tremendous. She knows the game,

787
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: she does her homework, She is kind of Switzerland. Everybody

788
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 3: likes her, you know.

789
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: I mean, which is rare for people who call games

790
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: because everyone's always convinced they hate your team.

791
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I really think she does a

792
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 3: great job. But you know, she and Beth Mowens have

793
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 3: worked together for thirty years and so they have an

794
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 3: advantage there. But I certainly want to learn from the best,

795
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 3: and I think Debbie's one of the best.

796
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: When you were coaching, you obviously weren't listening to your

797
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,080
Speaker 1: own team's game being broadcast live, But did you DVR them?

798
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: Did you ever hear how your team was being discussed

799
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: and think, wow, they really got that wrong. They're like,

800
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: that wasn't the play I was running? Or she did

801
00:37:56,120 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: what she was supposed to do.

802
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 3: No, I never really did. I just watched it. You know,

803
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 3: you kind of clip it out and you really don't

804
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 3: listen to too much. I do listen to when they're

805
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 3: describing the other team, because I think maybe I can

806
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 3: pick something up, but not my own team. Now, let's

807
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: like get through it, you know, and let's try to

808
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:14,919
Speaker 3: see what we need to do writer, or what we've

809
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: done writer, or what we need to improve on.

810
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: Probably wise for your mental health, and if something if

811
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:21,359
Speaker 1: something was.

812
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 3: Saying there was a lot of shit, No, no, I.

813
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: Just said as the person who knows, I find a

814
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,560
Speaker 1: lot of people in the sports business, without a lot

815
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:31,440
Speaker 1: of context or information, are convinced they would do a

816
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: better job than the coach who's coaching the team, and

817
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: not as often the broadcasters. But I think it would

818
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,839
Speaker 1: frustrate me to see someone blab it on TV about

819
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: how we should have run this or should have done that,

820
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,680
Speaker 1: and to know we did run that, they didn't do it,

821
00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 1: or this was the reason we didn't do that, and

822
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: you're too stupid to know better, and so it's probably

823
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 1: best that you didn't engage. And I imagine something was

824
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: like so egregious that they said it. It would somehow

825
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:55,799
Speaker 1: get back to you and you'd be able to tell

826
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: them before the next same.

827
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Hey, just a heads up.

828
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: You keep saying this and we're actually running this or

829
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,239
Speaker 1: this keeps coming up and that's not true because they're

830
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:05,680
Speaker 1: doing their best. But sure one who knows what you

831
00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 1: wrote on you know, the whiteboard. As the season gets

832
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: underway and you're gonna start calling some games, are there

833
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: a few players or teams that you're most intrigued and

834
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:15,280
Speaker 1: excited to watch.

835
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,479
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm really excited to see Michigan in the Big Ten.

836
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:22,760
Speaker 3: I think that's going to be They're a good young team.

837
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:24,799
Speaker 3: They really did well at the end of the last year,

838
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: and so I'm excited to see them in action, you know.

839
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: And everybody is excited to see UCLA, and I mean

840
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 3: everybody's excited to see the top teams that are listed

841
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 3: right now. But I kind of want to see, you know,

842
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 3: I want to see Notre Dame play. I just there's

843
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 3: a lot of people that I want to see play

844
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: right now, but Michigan and the Big Ten has got

845
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 3: me intrigued a lot.

846
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:47,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, Notre Dame is a fascinating one. A lot of

847
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: player departures. Very curious to see what they're going to

848
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,000
Speaker 1: look like this year. I would not be surprised if

849
00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:53,400
Speaker 1: they didn't.

850
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: Make it out a round of thirty two.

851
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: He didn't make the tournament even I don't know, it's

852
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: going to be really interesting to see what they do. Obviously,

853
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: Hannah to I'll go still such an incredible.

854
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 3: Talent, but terrific.

855
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. What about what about Iowa?

856
00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:08,240
Speaker 1: Will we expect to any Lisa Bluter taking on Jan Jensen,

857
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:12,360
Speaker 1: longtime protege, you know, criticizing her her decision making.

858
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 3: Oh heck no, I know better than that, right, I

859
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: mean no, No, I want to be honest. I want

860
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: to be transparent. But I'm never going to be ripping

861
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: on any coach because again, I know what they're going through,

862
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,880
Speaker 3: and so, you know, bringing a coach's perspective to this,

863
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 3: I think is is unique just because I do understand

864
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 3: what's you know, what's what they're going through a little bit.

865
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 3: So I'll probably have a little more compassion for my

866
00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:38,440
Speaker 3: coaching peers than other people would.

867
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 2: Okay, last question for you.

868
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: Since I mentioned Letterman, Bill Agean King, Wrigley Field, what's

869
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,279
Speaker 1: one other standout moment from the what is it year

870
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,239
Speaker 1: and a half or so, now that you've been out

871
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 1: of the game.

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Speaker 3: One other standout moment would be probably going with Jason

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Speaker 3: Sideikas to the Hollywood Bowl. It was a Jimmy Buffett

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Speaker 3: tribute concert. Got to go with him and Beard and

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Speaker 3: Uh and my daughter Hannah who worked for me for

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Speaker 3: five years, So that was that was a highlight.

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Speaker 1: I love that you know, part of the cast, Brendan

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Speaker 1: Hunt is a friend of mine, coach Beard, So I

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Speaker 1: love that you. I love that you got to go

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Speaker 1: with him and Ted Jason and go check it out.

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Speaker 1: Lot of a lot of good times ahead of you, Lisa,

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Speaker 1: I think in this nice little balance where you get

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Speaker 1: to say, I guess I'll work that day and then

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Speaker 1: I won't work these days, that sounds like a dream

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Speaker 1: to me.

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Speaker 3: It is a blessing. It's a blessing. You've earned it.

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Speaker 1: You've more than earned it. And thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for giving us sometime. I really appreciate it.

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Speaker 3: Well, Sarah, thank you for what you've done for women's

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Speaker 3: athletics and and the what you know you're pushing the

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Speaker 3: equality and I'm just so proud of that that we

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Speaker 3: have young women that are stepping up and really talking

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Speaker 3: about how important this this game is for their development,

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Speaker 3: for women's development, and what we what we really deserve.

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Speaker 1: We're going to clip off you calling me young, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to replay that whenever I need it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much.

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Speaker 3: And I said, shit, sorry about that.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, no, we say everything on this show the

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Speaker 1: only thing we believed. Okay, so you're good, Okay, all right, good,

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Speaker 1: Thanks again to Lisa for hanging out with us. We

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Speaker 1: got to take another break when we come back, bumble, But.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back, slaicys.

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Speaker 1: We love that you're listening, but we want you to

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Speaker 1: get in the game every day too, So here's our

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Speaker 1: good game play of the day. Check out Lisa Blueter

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Speaker 1: in action next Thursday, calling Iowa versus Drake aka the

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Speaker 1: two teams she spent thirty plus years coaching. That'll be

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Speaker 1: on the Big Ten Network. We'll remind you next week too.

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Speaker 1: Also check out the very cool illustrated look at the

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Speaker 1: WNBACBA negotiations and revenue share its posted by Underscore sports

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Speaker 1: Ball on Instagram. Kind of a new and different way

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Speaker 1: to see and understand a whole lot of the info

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Speaker 1: we've shared on the show very cool. We'll link to

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Speaker 1: it in our show notes, and we always love to

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Speaker 1: hear from you, so hit us up on email, good

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Speaker 1: game at wonder media dot com or leave us a

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Speaker 1: voicemail at eight seven to two two O four fifty seventy,

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Speaker 1: and don't forget to subscribe, rate and review. I tell

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Speaker 1: you every day slices because it's very important and helpful

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Speaker 1: to us, and it's super easy. Watch a bee with

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Speaker 1: a basketball for a butt? Rating ten out of ten,

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Speaker 1: no notes review. Now, if you remember my reaction to

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Speaker 1: last year's Unrivaled logo reveals, you'll know that I am

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Speaker 1: a big, big fan of this league's design team, particularly

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Speaker 1: the folks behind the first spooky sports logo. I'm aware

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Speaker 1: of Phantom BC. Why were we denied ghosts in our

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Speaker 1: logos for so long? So rad well, two new unrivaled

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Speaker 1: teams means two new logos. And while BREEZEBC is just okay,

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Speaker 1: you know palm trees have been done, the Hive BC

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Speaker 1: logo is chef's kiss. It's got a round cress with

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Speaker 1: honeycomb details on the sides, and then a bee in

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Speaker 1: the middle with a goddamn basketball for a butt.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed.

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Speaker 1: When we do our annual unrivaled pick your team exercise,

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Speaker 1: you better fucking believe that bumble butt is going to

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Speaker 1: factor into my decision.

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Speaker 2: Now it's your turn, y'all.

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Speaker 1: Rate and review, Thanks for listening, See you next week.

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Speaker 1: Good game, Lisa, Good game, bumble butt. A few men's

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Speaker 1: pro teams were being around so long they could get

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Speaker 1: away with dumb names like the Browns or the Red Sox.

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Speaker 1: Imagine being a social media admin unveiling one of those

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Speaker 1: kind of team names in the year twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 1: and don't get me started on the Predators.

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Speaker 2: Yikes.

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Speaker 1: But also, you know what, fuck you, Alex, because originally

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Speaker 1: putting Bearers as an example of a shitty team name,

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Speaker 1: that is my college team, my football team, and kind

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Speaker 1: of technically my baseball team too, So.

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Speaker 2: You have thrice insulted me.

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Speaker 1: Good Game with Sarah Spain is an iHeart women's sports

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Speaker 1: executive producers are Christina Everett, Jesse Katz, Jenny Kaplan and

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