1 00:00:08,520 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Dallas 3 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for insider 4 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:43,320 Speaker 1: news and drafted analysis. M Smith running back from Florida. 5 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: It is an early Tuesday edition of the Dallas Cowboys 6 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: dot Com Draft Show, as we get you set for 7 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: this week's twenty twenty NFL Draft. It's just two days away, 8 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: and it's crazy to think that we are just over 9 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: I guess under seventy two hours away from the NFL Draft. 10 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,759 Speaker 1: It's been a long journey, it's been an odd journey, 11 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 1: but we are just about to that point. Kyle Yeoman's 12 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:14,319 Speaker 1: here alongside Jeff Kavanaugh, the great David Hellman, and also 13 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: the incredible Kevin kat Turner down in the bottom corner, 14 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 1: and so glad you're with us. Hope you're still saying 15 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: staying safe out there, and guys overall, this is just 16 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: kind of crazy to think that we're you're finally leading 17 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:34,839 Speaker 1: into that elusive day and really weekend of the NFL Draft. 18 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: But the realists, it really is just right around the corner. Yeah, 19 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 1: I tried to watching wrestling last night, so I was 20 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:50,240 Speaker 1: looking for anybody, and it was weird man kind of wrestling. 21 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 1: They're like in the end, right, yeah, they're in the 22 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: empty arena and for awkward real touttoos driving. So yeah, 23 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: let's get some sports. Yeah yeah, I meant sporting. Yeah, 24 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: I mean sport. And this is what we got. We 25 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: got a mapel grow other than the week before the 26 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,399 Speaker 1: season starts. This is like the best of Stars. Don't 27 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: care like the draft on its real draft. Yeah, let's draft. 28 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: I saw a YouTube video of two bears in the 29 00:02:25,880 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: street getting after it, and it was like Tristan Worth's 30 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: is taken on calevan Chase on. In my mind, I 31 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 1: was just creating all these like football references. I don't know, 32 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, let's get this thing going. Dude. I saw 33 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: that video and Bear number one, who was really you know, 34 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: trying to make this thing happen. Beair number two was 35 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: like backpedaling, but they were both doing the like I 36 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: will fight you, but Bare number two with backpedaling like no, 37 00:02:53,720 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: we don't have food, bro. But when Bear one finally 38 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: went to it, Bear two man handled Bear one despite 39 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: trying to tell a row we don't have to do this. 40 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,880 Speaker 1: See he stayed low with the line of scrimmage. He 41 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 1: was able to get good leverage underneath and then able 42 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,440 Speaker 1: to drive back with a strong lower body. That was 43 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:12,480 Speaker 1: the biggest thing. I think that was kind of the 44 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: takeaway that we took out of that tape session. However, 45 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: there's still plenty to get to around just draft buzz 46 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 1: in general. Of course, we will have Twitter on the 47 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: twenty coming up in just a little bit. I will 48 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: also tell you that Kat has a strategy that's gonna 49 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: make the Cowboys a Super Bowl contender. We're gonna talk 50 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 1: about that coming up in the third segments. So you 51 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: don't want to go around anywhere for that. But let's 52 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: get to some of these draft buzz points overall, just 53 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: kind of leading in to this final week, in this 54 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: final lead up to the draft, and I've got a 55 00:03:44,160 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: couple points here. I kind of want to just roundtable 56 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 1: with you guys, and we're gonna start things off with 57 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 1: kind of the technology, and of course we've talked about 58 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: the draft beating virtual this season, We've talked about the 59 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: overall kind of issues that could arise, and then they 60 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: had the mock draft there yesterday or the day before, 61 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 1: and in that mock draft there was issues with the 62 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: first overall pick. The Bengals at the first overall pick 63 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a hiccup. They did not 64 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: get their pick off in two and a half minutes 65 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: of a delay. There was that hiccup there, but after 66 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,720 Speaker 1: that it seemingly went smooth. According to John Elway, who 67 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: was a part of the whole organization, it was a 68 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: mock draft that was scheduled out between the thirty two 69 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: teams and even included the Cowboys in the script, trading 70 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,599 Speaker 1: up to the number one overall pick, where they took 71 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: offensive tackle Trey Adams out of Washington with the first 72 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: overall pick. So there was some Cowboys fun with that. 73 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 1: I mean, they took Trey Adams, but it was a 74 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,560 Speaker 1: scripted thing that way. It wasn't Joe Burrow, but just 75 00:04:44,640 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: kind of funny overall. But it kind of just leads 76 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 1: to that worry overall of the fact that we don't 77 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 1: really know how things are gonna go whenever Thursday rolls around. 78 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah we do, Kyle, it's gonna be a trade. Rick 79 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: and I just made it. Oh man, I think not immediately. 80 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: And I don't know if it'll be your favorite team. 81 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: I don't know whose team it'll be but absolutely we 82 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: will have the a lot of time for a pick 83 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: and it will go over that in the first round 84 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 1: at least four or five pounds, whether it's working out 85 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: of trade, because what I saw was that the owners 86 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: the gym for blaming bandwid for what went wrong. That's 87 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: what you blame. If you don't know what went wrong, 88 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: you get bandwidth is not the problem. There was not 89 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: a bandwidth. There was the problem with somebody, you know, 90 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: there was a problem with a mute button that somebody 91 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: didn't hit. There was it's gonna be a trademar and 92 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: I can't wait your time. Thirty thirty front offices. You 93 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: know you've seen the Cowboys War Run. You know you 94 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,480 Speaker 1: watching the Cowboys War Front. You've ever watched it? Somewhere 95 00:05:53,560 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: eighteen somewhere between. All of them separated, you know, because 96 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 1: of COVID restrictions, none of them having you know, in 97 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: person access to their IT departments, and the vast majority 98 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:11,960 Speaker 1: of these people do not know how technology works as 99 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: well as you would prefer. If it goes off without 100 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: a hitch, I will be shocked. Like if it goes 101 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: off without a hitch, that'll be one of the most 102 00:06:19,720 --> 00:06:22,080 Speaker 1: impressive things the NFL has ever pulled off. I think 103 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: it's gonna be hilarious. It's hilarious. Well, I think another 104 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: thing that they have to contend with is that the 105 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: draft historically has been a made for TV event. So 106 00:06:32,360 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: what you see is they have it kind of scheduled 107 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: out with their commercial breaks and things like that. So 108 00:06:38,839 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: you have ten minutes to make a pick, but if 109 00:06:40,760 --> 00:06:42,600 Speaker 1: we need to catch up on spot time, we need 110 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: to make this a four hour night one, which they 111 00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: normally do, or three and a half hour night one. 112 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: Then the commissioner can put on the brakes and then 113 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,080 Speaker 1: we'll announce the pick after commercial. If you're doing this 114 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: like everyone does our fantasy football draft, and we're just 115 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: moving on the next pick, then it should move faster, 116 00:07:01,279 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: and the NFL is going to take their proper steps 117 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: to make it move a little slower to work at 118 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 1: their pace. So there's a lot going on with that 119 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: as well, with some teams going, wait, I had fifteen 120 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 1: minutes to make a pick, or I only had five 121 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: minutes to get my pick in because the way it 122 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: was all it all worked out, and it's just gonna 123 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: be really, really awkward. It's gonna be really bad. And 124 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: another thing is too and I mean no disrespect, you 125 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 1: do start asking for a lot of problems when you 126 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: start putting really old people in charge of technology. I 127 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: don't know what the kids are doing on TikTok. I'm 128 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: not I'm just as guilty, but you really do start 129 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 1: asking for problems when when you're saying, hey, older person, 130 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: handle the Internet. Okay, okay, boomer looker, it does present 131 00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,560 Speaker 1: a problem. And you will probably see some of the 132 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: IT professionals at least involved. I don't know if they'll 133 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,560 Speaker 1: be directly in the house the entire time, but I'm 134 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: sure they'll have kind of an emergency contingency plan going 135 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: into it. I feel like you have to have a 136 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: safety net should some of those issues arise. But moving 137 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: on to some of the players and some of the 138 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,240 Speaker 1: rumors that are circling some of the selections that could 139 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 1: come early in this draft. Let's start with Jeffrey Okuda, 140 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 1: one of our favorites out of Ohio State. The cornerback 141 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: top on the board, I believe across the board here 142 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 1: for the draft show in terms of the top corner 143 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: on the board, and it's really not a competition. However, 144 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: there's some rumors that he may slide back a little bit, 145 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: and corner may not be as early of a draft 146 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 1: need as teams may have thought originally, or as media 147 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:46,559 Speaker 1: may have thought originally. If he ends up sliding back, 148 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: I'm not necessarily saying he would slide back to seventeen, 149 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: or at least within range of seventeen. But is it 150 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 1: a possibility that that maybe push C. J. Henderson to seventeen? 151 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: Maybe a Christian Fulton there maybe a little bit further 152 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: back if you wanted to trade back a little bit. 153 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: What does this do as a domino effect with a 154 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: cornerback position. I think that's where these rumors are great. 155 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 1: I mean I think I think you're still putting money 156 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: on it, and I still think you think Okuda goes 157 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: at number three if that pick doesn't get traded, and 158 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: I think there's a chance that that does happen. But 159 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: I do think it's interesting, and it's first of all, 160 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: it's like disclaimer, it is smoke screen sison like yet 161 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:28,559 Speaker 1: to remember that, right. But the Derek Brown, the Derek 162 00:09:28,640 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: Brown to the Lions rumors that popped up out of 163 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: nowhere yesterday are very interesting. I always kind of thought 164 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: they might keep it quiet on Isaiah Simmons that they 165 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: would like him and maybe try to keep that down. 166 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,839 Speaker 1: So if Okuda does go back though the next landing spot, 167 00:09:46,600 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 1: you kind of look around. It's like, okay, if you 168 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,719 Speaker 1: get past the quarterback teams, the Chargers and the and 169 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: the Dolphins at five and six, maybe the Cardinals are eight, 170 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: Jacksonville at nine, Like, you get a couple of teams 171 00:09:59,200 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: who would make sense and take a corner back, and 172 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 1: maybe that does push someone back back to you a 173 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:06,880 Speaker 1: little bit. No, I god, why nobody's good at mock 174 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: drafts because what we do and I do too, So 175 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm talking to me you uh like, we'll talk about 176 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,120 Speaker 1: what you get the best player and find the best 177 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: value in the draft, but then we'll mock every other 178 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: team to pick their biggest need instead of necessarily picking 179 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 1: the best player where it's like, well Henderson, uh, you know, 180 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 1: maybe he goes nine because they need a corner or maybe, 181 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:32,080 Speaker 1: and that's the way that we do it. And then 182 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: somebody's gonna break the whole thing by just picking their 183 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 1: best player even though it's not their biggest position in 184 00:10:36,800 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: need and ruin everybody's buck draft. So I really don't know, 185 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: And that's the fun of it. That's I was gonna say. 186 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: I mean, who's the type of player, Like, even if 187 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: he slides, I can't imagine him having a crazy slide 188 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: because at some point somebody's gonna say the best corner 189 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: in the draft is sitting here at pick eight, Like, 190 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 1: of course we're gonna take him. Who cares what we need? 191 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,439 Speaker 1: Like that's how that works. So I don't think I 192 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 1: see it. And I mean I've been suspecting for a 193 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: while that CJ. Henderson is going to go higher than 194 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,760 Speaker 1: a lot of us initially thought. And I know you 195 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: can't trust draft week rumors completely, but you know, the 196 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 1: buzz seems to indicate that that's a total possibility. There's 197 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: a lot of chatter about Atlanta wanting to trade up 198 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,079 Speaker 1: they could use a cornerback. Talked about Jackson Bill drafting CJ. 199 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,559 Speaker 1: Henderson at ninth overall, and you know, Jeff Okuda could 200 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:31,000 Speaker 1: slide to seven or eight and then CJ. Henderson goes 201 00:11:31,080 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: nine or ten, Like that wouldn't shock me even slightly. 202 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:37,120 Speaker 1: I definitely think he's talented enough to be picked that highly. 203 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:41,319 Speaker 1: You hit somebody who likes him well, also kind of 204 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: going off of that a little bit, there's the dangling 205 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: of picks kind of going on. At the same time, 206 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: you've got the Giants at four that are saying, hey, 207 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: we've got some prime spot, some prime real estate right here. 208 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: I know the Lions are just ahead of us, but 209 00:11:54,280 --> 00:11:55,959 Speaker 1: we still got a pretty good spot here if you 210 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 1: wanted to trade up and see what we could do there. 211 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: So I mean, even if he gets past three and 212 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: then you move on the later parts of the draft, 213 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: which I think he will get past the third overall pick, 214 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: because I don't expect maybe the Lions to sit there 215 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,559 Speaker 1: and select. But then you've also got teams like the 216 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: forty nine ers who could potentially trade the thirteenth pick. 217 00:12:14,760 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: I know, like you said, Atlanta has a chance to 218 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: be a suitor the Cowboys, are they interested? Depending on 219 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 1: who falls, it would be kind of a tough sell 220 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: to me. But at least there's those conversations being had 221 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,439 Speaker 1: between these teams about these picks early in the draft 222 00:12:28,520 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 1: and kind of dangling them out there. Any of them 223 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: kind of surprise you or at least pique your interest 224 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: a little bit. Can we talk about the laziest smoke 225 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 1: screen in the history of the World that came out yesterday. 226 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: I'm still laughing about Justin Herbert. The Giants are doing 227 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 1: homework on Justin Herbert. Be my guest, y'all. If you 228 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: want to have three top ten picks in the last 229 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 1: three years and spend them on a running back and 230 00:12:56,920 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 1: two quarterbacks that nobody's sold on, you go right ahead. 231 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: But if you expect me to believe that you're talking 232 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:05,560 Speaker 1: to Justin Herbert because you're actually going to draft him, 233 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:09,160 Speaker 1: you're stupid. Or if you actually draft him, you're even 234 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: stupider than that. So have all the fun in the world, Giants. 235 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: I hope it works for you. I hope somebody comes 236 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: to get your pick, but I doubt they will because 237 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: nobody actually believes you would do that. What's a dumb rumor, 238 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 1: because if you're the Giants, let's just pretend that they're 239 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: let's pretend they're really smart, right, and so in their 240 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: mind they're really smart, and so get them and sitting 241 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 1: there and he goes, boys, you know what we gotta do. 242 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:38,760 Speaker 1: Hold on, they move my binder, talk to you, guys, 243 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: but we got to do just tell people we're interested 244 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: in a quarterback. That way people will want to trade 245 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: with us to come get the quarterback. But then somebody 246 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: smarter than him would be like, well they've actually what 247 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 1: would happen if teams thought we were interested in that 248 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: quarterback is they would jump ahead of us. So we're 249 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: actually just creating even more demand for the pick in 250 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 1: front of us, not for our pick. So we're really 251 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 1: accomplishing nothing with this rumor. But Dave, what in the 252 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: middle of that? Would what in the middle of that? 253 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: Assume that the Giants were being smart though, that's the question. 254 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 1: Maybe Gettleman is trying to help the Lions. Maybe he's 255 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: trying to help you know, Patricia and uh and bab O'Quinn, 256 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, get something for that third overall pick. Good 257 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 1: job day, a good team player. You know the owners 258 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: are in this together. Well, think about this. Maybe they're trying. 259 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: Maybe they're trying to pique the interest of a team 260 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: that might have to get ahead of them to get 261 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: trade with Washington at two, so that Washington goes back 262 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,320 Speaker 1: and doesn't have Chase Young and you're not playing against 263 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: Chase Young twice a year? Is that crazy? What does 264 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,400 Speaker 1: that have to do with the Giant? Well, if i'm 265 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: if I'm talking about a quarterback. If I'm talking about 266 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:00,160 Speaker 1: a quarterback at three and then I'm another team, I'm well, 267 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 1: I gotta get ahead of I gotta get ahead of them, 268 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: or at four, I gotta get ahead of them. Now, 269 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe I'm crazy, I am What do 270 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:09,280 Speaker 1: you guys think the Giants? What do you guys think 271 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 1: the Giants are gonna do it for? Y'all think they'll 272 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: go like one of the tackles, either one of the 273 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: tackles or Isaiah Simmons. Yeah, tackle or Simmons would be 274 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: my guests. Probably there, probably tackle. I don't know. It's 275 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: kind of tough to look at whenever you see it 276 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: goes back to kind of what Jeff's point was at 277 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: the beginning of the segment. Our team's gonna draft best 278 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: player they're gonna draft need. A lot of people have 279 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: offensive tackles slated to the Giants at pick number four. 280 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 1: Best player available most likely is gonna be Isaiah Simmons 281 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: at four instead, So if they do end up selecting 282 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,080 Speaker 1: there would be interesting. Now some of the other players 283 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: that could end up going in the first part of 284 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: the round. This will be the last point before we 285 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: take our first break, but javon Kin Law to tungul Byloa. 286 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: Of course, health concerns. We've had some a little bit 287 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,320 Speaker 1: with them over the course of the draft process that 288 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: Naton and Ninis for ken Law the hip for TWA, 289 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: that apparently both were cleared during the NFL combine. Now 290 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:12,280 Speaker 1: are they still clear? Is kind of the question going 291 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:15,160 Speaker 1: into this. Are these physicals being failed? Are these teams 292 00:16:15,280 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 1: potentially going to let them drop a little bit more 293 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: than we earlier anticipated. Do you see a drop from 294 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: either one of these just because of the oddity of 295 00:16:23,320 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 1: this draft process moving into the final league, kind of 296 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: hoping for a TWA drop based on some of my 297 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: activities that I did yesterday, because those rumor rooskis are 298 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: getting floated around there, so I went with it. The 299 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 1: thing about like medically cleared is it means different things 300 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 1: to different people, Like you could have twenty three teams 301 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: that said, tah, good to go, and then you could 302 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: have ninither are like, we ain't touching him no matter what. 303 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 1: So even cleared is a weird term because it's like 304 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: you get the initial report that to his medicals checked out, 305 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: it's clear he's ready to play, but you've probably got 306 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 1: somewhere between five and ten or maybe five and twenty 307 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,960 Speaker 1: five team who are like, yeah, that's cool, he's clear 308 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 1: to work out. That dude getting hurt. He's banged up, 309 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: so you just you never know what it means for 310 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: your teeth. I'm gonna put a dollarp of hand sanitizer 311 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 1: on right now because I'm about to get my hands 312 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: dirty and break off a piece of truth for you guys. 313 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:23,240 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let me get a little high with you. Okay, 314 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: get a little tun with you. Tuah is not just 315 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: a quarterback, and that's what makes him valuable. He is 316 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:38,199 Speaker 1: a very good quarterback. And let's be honest. I think 317 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: it's probably fifty fifty that we're playing less than sixteen 318 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: games this year. I think there's a chance. I am 319 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: not scared of drafting two because there's a chance. A. 320 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: I don't have to play him at all. B I 321 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,679 Speaker 1: don't play him at all because there is no season. 322 00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: But see if it's in the best interest for the team, 323 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: I can still develop him for one year. Much like 324 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson. None of those guys 325 00:18:02,800 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 1: played in year one. I do not have to play him, 326 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: just because I drafted him. So if you're worried of it, 327 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 1: he just got hurt. But okay, yeah, I hear you. 328 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: If you're but if you're worried about if you're worried 329 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: about the hip, like you think it's degenerative, and he's well, 330 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 1: then he doesn't need to be in the league. Then okay, fine, 331 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:22,200 Speaker 1: he's a good player. He draft him and he needs 332 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: to go high because he's not you know, Kyle Bohler. 333 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:32,520 Speaker 1: He's not Jake Locker. He's an excellent player. He's he 334 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: was not good enough. Wait but ta ta kat oh 335 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: on kat, let me ask you this with Tuah. But 336 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:45,520 Speaker 1: let me get another doubt. Let me get one more doubt, 337 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: and then we'll have this conversation. So the bar sun 338 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: realize hand sanitizer was necessary today. Okay, So are we 339 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,560 Speaker 1: pretending that teams who are medically worried about Tuah are 340 00:18:58,640 --> 00:19:02,719 Speaker 1: worried about this year too. They're worried about his career, 341 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: they're worried about two years and hip, knee ankle. They're 342 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: not worried about will he be able to play this 343 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: year or will he able to renhart this year? They're 344 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: worried about are we picking a franchise quarterback. It's not 345 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: gonna be available bunch, not today, but forever you weigh 346 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: the you weigh the risk reward of that. Isn't it 347 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: worth it anyway? Yeah? Fine, I'll roll with Tyrod Taylor. Fine, 348 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:35,360 Speaker 1: you got me. If if there's not very good, he's 349 00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:37,360 Speaker 1: not as good as two ah could be. If there's 350 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:41,119 Speaker 1: any chance that to uh plays like the guy that 351 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: we saw at Bama when he was healthy, like you 352 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 1: have to draft him, and I understand the concern. I 353 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: get it, But if we're again quarterbacks different, everything about 354 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: evaluating the position is different. If the pick hits, you 355 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: transform your franchise, and that's worth the risk to me, 356 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: even I totally at it, like he never he didn't 357 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:04,120 Speaker 1: like play one hundred percent of any of his college seasons. 358 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: But if you even feel slightly optimistic about his medicals, 359 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:11,280 Speaker 1: you just do it. I'm not going to criticize anybody 360 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: for trying to transform their franchise. You know, if you 361 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: if he was a running back or really any other position, 362 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,680 Speaker 1: I feel a lot less secure taking that risk. But 363 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: if he hits, you change your franchise. So you just 364 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:29,720 Speaker 1: roll the dice and hope for the best. 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Our first question, Andre 440 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,960 Speaker 1: McMillan comes at us, and he says, how do you 441 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: feel about pulling the trigger on Jalen Hurts with our 442 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: second round pick? Now, hold on for just a second. 443 00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: His explanation says, if he's there as an insurance policy 444 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,440 Speaker 1: as well as a backup quarterback, he said he's a 445 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: big deck fan, but he doesn't like the idea that 446 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: any player is holding a team hostage, especially if the 447 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: team is trying to keep him. What do you guys say, Oh, 448 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: I don't second round, So I don't like the idea 449 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,560 Speaker 1: at fifty one, and I mean, this is this is 450 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: pie in the sky. But as long as we're getting 451 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: crazy like the scenario that I've seen a lot of 452 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,960 Speaker 1: that I don't I don't mind at all. Is if 453 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: if captain trade down, if Jeff gets his desired trade 454 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: down in the first round, say you trade into the 455 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,240 Speaker 1: mid twenties at a pick, and now you're picking twice 456 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: in the second round. I would draft Jalen Hurts in 457 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 1: that scenario. I'd feel good about it too. I don't 458 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:50,640 Speaker 1: have a problem with that. But pick fifty one, I've 459 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 1: only got you know, four picks in the first four rounds, 460 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: and I got all these other needs to address. That 461 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,840 Speaker 1: would that would kind of bumm me out if my 462 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,280 Speaker 1: only second round pick was going to a backup player. 463 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: That's a great point by day to realize that the 464 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: only scenario that's the right scenario is trading down. I 465 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: just suder saying the right scenario is it includes Jalen 466 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: Hurts Jeff, that's fine, you don't have to do it 467 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,520 Speaker 1: that way, but captain trade down must ride like this 468 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:20,680 Speaker 1: here and I ran a stimulation. It's like it's wait, 469 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: here's what say it? Nay. The whole point of the 470 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: Draft show is to consider like every single angle of 471 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,879 Speaker 1: what could happen in the draft and all the different 472 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 1: ways it could lay out, and you just bully your 473 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 1: way into one thing, and I just don't want your 474 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 1: heart to get broken. Back doesn't happen. Okay, Okay, you're right, 475 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: you're twenty seven. You can trade down to twenty, you 476 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 1: can go all the way to thirty five, or you're right. 477 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 1: There's lots of scenario and to win, that's all like 478 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:56,840 Speaker 1: you're just gonna leave the show, and I'm gonna be sad. 479 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: What Well, I'm not going to leave. Okay, good bone 480 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 1: night one. Jeff will be doing something else. Jeff will 481 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: will join you on Friday and Saturday. If if you 482 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: take Jalen Hurts at fifty one, what do I have 483 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: like a hundred guys I have graded higher than him 484 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: on my board? Oh okay, like yeah, but how many 485 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,720 Speaker 1: they don't get drafted? Where their value says they should. Ever, 486 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: even like nobody thinks Joe, does that mean that's right though? 487 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:35,640 Speaker 1: Dave yes, absolutely yes, Because it's quarterback. It's the same 488 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: conversation as too uh. If you like a quarterback drafting 489 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: where you can get him. Joe Burrow is not better 490 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 1: than Chase Young, but the Bengals would be stupid to 491 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: take a defensive end over a quarterback if they think 492 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: the quarterback can change their franchise. If you like Jalen Hurts, 493 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,360 Speaker 1: he won't be there past. I mean, if you only 494 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 1: have one pick in the second round, if you pick 495 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: at fifty one, he won't be there when you pick 496 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: it eighty two. Very likely not, It's possible if they like, oh, 497 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: go ahead, I'm sorry. If they like case cookus from 498 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: northern Arizona, then maybe they'll just take him. How do'ther 499 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: have him in the sixth or seventh than oh, the second. 500 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:18,280 Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, I would too. I would way 501 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: rather draft a Day three guy like they did with 502 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,719 Speaker 1: Mike White a couple of years ago. Um, Jake Luton 503 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:26,560 Speaker 1: out of Oregon stage whoever you want. I don't care, Um, 504 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: I just I'm just saying. The way quarterback works is 505 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you can count on hurts to fall 506 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: to you later on because quarterbacks don't do that very often. Um, 507 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,560 Speaker 1: if you think and if you think like Kat does, 508 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: if you think that he's a career backup, you're not 509 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: using the second round picks on the period. That's a 510 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: great point and kind of going off of what Dave 511 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 1: said a little bit earlier talking about the best scenario 512 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: for that to even happen is to have multiple second 513 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: round picks, And it kind of leads us into the 514 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: second question here on Twitter. On the twenty, Sean asked, 515 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: it almost feels like a couple of picks in the 516 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 1: second round or more valuable than pick seventeen at this 517 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: specific point, you guys believe that that's the truth. If 518 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: you end up picking up maybe multiple second round picks, 519 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,880 Speaker 1: is that something that ends up being more valuable to you? 520 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: And would you end up taking one of those as 521 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 1: a potential quarterback? I would skip the quarterback part because 522 00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: I agree. So for instance, this morning, I was dong 523 00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: and around that's what I do, a dog around on 524 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: the MoGraph stimulators and just look throughout a scenario. Let's 525 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 1: say Chason makes it the seventeen would you rather have 526 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,080 Speaker 1: calebon Chaison or would you rather have whoever your favorite 527 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:52,560 Speaker 1: is of Delpit or Xavier McKinney and Damon Arnett. I'm 528 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: just making up a guy. I pick at fifty nine 529 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: or sixty four, I'm in Yeah, so I get Our 530 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: and Grant Delpit or Caleb and Chasm. Yeah, I'm probably 531 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: going the probably don't give me the multiple players in 532 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 1: that scenario. I guess the funny thing about what the 533 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: question that was asked by the listener and viewer, you 534 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: said the two second round picks, like what part of 535 00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: the second round early in the second round, late in 536 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: the second round? Right, and just assume they're two second 537 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: rounders in the middle. Oh, if you're trying to one 538 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,520 Speaker 1: do you better be getting two good second rounders because 539 00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: I'm just thinking more along the line to again, I 540 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 1: just pick a team that makes this work, which would 541 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 1: be like Seattle, and that's what you get twenty seven 542 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: and fifty nine or twenty seven and then sixty four. 543 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: If you're moving all the way to the second round, 544 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna do a lot better than sixty four. It's 545 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: the other pick. Yeah, And I can I share a 546 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: hot take with y'all share this is This is something 547 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: I've noticed over several years of doing this. I do 548 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: think there's always good talent between like pick thirty four 549 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,160 Speaker 1: and pick sixty five, Like it always seems like or 550 00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, pick seventy five whatever, like the second and 551 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: third rounds really feels like a nice sweet spot. But 552 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,800 Speaker 1: at the same time, I think we tend to fall 553 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: in love with that because of the appeal of the unknown, 554 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it picks seventeen, we've 555 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,000 Speaker 1: really we've narrowed this thing down pretty good. Like I 556 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 1: think we've got about five names that we feel pretty 557 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: confident would be the pick. And when you're picking a 558 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: pick seventeen, a lot of people don't like all the 559 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: options there. You're like, I'm not sold on Chase On 560 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 1: or you know, I don't like Fulton or Digs or Tarrell. 561 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: I would rather they don't do that. But all the 562 00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:45,800 Speaker 1: way back at pick fifty one, there's about two dozen 563 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: players that make sense, and we know a lot less 564 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: about how the Cowboys feel, so you can talk yourself 565 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:56,800 Speaker 1: into way more options, and I don't think that's realistic 566 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: because again, I think the list of players the Cowboys 567 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: would actually pick is a lot shorter than the list 568 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: of players that we're interested in. I think sometimes we 569 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: just kind of fool ourselves into liking those later rounds 570 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: later because there's more guys for us to fall in 571 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 1: love with, even if it's not realistic. I think that's 572 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: a fair point. Absolutely. I agree with Kavanaugh. Can totally 573 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: sell me on Damon our Nett because I love Damon 574 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: our Nett and for all we know, they might not 575 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 1: touch them with a ten foot pull. But it's more 576 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: enticing to talk about because there's more options. I think 577 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: it's I think it's actually the exact opposite, where if 578 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 1: you're not picking one of the guys that you have 579 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: is like a no doubt first rounder and maybe they'll 580 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,760 Speaker 1: have at seventeen that they do have. Is that that 581 00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: you're just playing an odds game here, where the odds 582 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 1: at seventeen the like who wins a trade in theory 583 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,840 Speaker 1: if you trade down, the answer is six times out 584 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: of ten, the team that traded down win because they're 585 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 1: getting more darks to throw at the board. Now, that 586 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you're going to fall in that category 587 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: every time. Because of the tad, it's usually about six 588 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: times out of ten not nine times out of ten, 589 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: but trading down is the win. Trading up is the 590 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,480 Speaker 1: law when you're not talking about quarterbacks on average. So 591 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: I think we also have a problem with falling in 592 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: love with the players at pretty much any pick, to 593 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,760 Speaker 1: the point where we think, well, I've got these guys 594 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: in the right order, and so the guy that I'm 595 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,719 Speaker 1: going to pick here when reality is that you've got 596 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: a better chance at it if you have an extra 597 00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 1: dark well, and I also think with this draft specifically, 598 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: a lot of the talent is front loaded. I mean, 599 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,160 Speaker 1: you talk about Chase Young and Joe Burrow and Tua 600 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,800 Speaker 1: and even if you wanted to throw Jeffreyokuda c J Henderson, 601 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: it's those top fifteen players that gets you excited. The 602 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: next fifteen don't get you that much more excited than 603 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,560 Speaker 1: the next forty five. Almost it almost seems like the 604 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: top fifty picks as a whole, it's ten and then 605 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: it's forty. Now I'm not saying that's necessarily the case. 606 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,520 Speaker 1: You can still separate guys like Damon Arnette and Christian Fulton, 607 00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: you can do something stuff like that, but at the 608 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: same time, you still have to have that kind of 609 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:14,959 Speaker 1: game changing pick in the first half of the round 610 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: that you may not be able to have later on. 611 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:21,240 Speaker 1: So it does that value ends up playing back and forth. 612 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: And I know, at least in this draft specifically, I 613 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,279 Speaker 1: would feel more comfortable having multiple second round picks and 614 00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: trading back toward the bottom half of the first round, 615 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,000 Speaker 1: because then you get three solid players rather than an 616 00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,800 Speaker 1: okay solid or an extra solid player then a solid 617 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: player at fifty one. I'm still on trade down the 618 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,200 Speaker 1: team trade down any day. But do have a question. 619 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,799 Speaker 1: I know, I know I'm driving the chase on train, 620 00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: but if they can get out of pick seventeen, I am. 621 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 1: I'm way on board with that, just so nobody mistakes me. 622 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: So your chase on if you're at seventeen, but then 623 00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: you're still fine. You're still fine trading away, is what 624 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: you're saying. I would be happy to draft Caleb and Jason. 625 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: I would be happy to get out of the pick. 626 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: I'm fine either way. But if Chason's there, I think 627 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:16,640 Speaker 1: that's a coward move. I think it's gonna be hard 628 00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 1: to execute trades on the clock. It's gonna be tough. 629 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: And even John always said that yesterday and his reaction 630 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: with the mock draft is the fact of is the 631 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 1: fact that trades aren't still gonna be tough overall. Okay, 632 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,320 Speaker 1: next question, Thomas Davis asked what player has been mocked 633 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: to the Cowboys recently that you do not want for 634 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:43,040 Speaker 1: the team. A. J. Carrell. It was easy. He's my 635 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: eighth cornerback and that's the name we've started hearing seventeen 636 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 1: and our buddy Dame Brugar I said, or I saw 637 00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,600 Speaker 1: he even said on the Twitter. To me, he was like, 638 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: that's if he makes it to seventeen, he may go 639 00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:59,280 Speaker 1: before that. And again, this is one of those things 640 00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: where my buddy Chris, he was asking me. He was like, 641 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: you didn't have it was this was going back to 642 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,959 Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, like you didn't have t J wat ahead 643 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: of Taco. So I had to pull up my whole 644 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 1: board and I was like, yeah, look ahead, he was 645 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: my fifteenth best player at Taco in the sixties. So yeah, 646 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 1: I did, like I can prove it. But then I 647 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: looked at the rest of my board and I went, man, 648 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:23,759 Speaker 1: there's some there's some mighty misses here. So's we can 649 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 1: all be wrong about we can all be wrong about this, 650 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: but AJ Terrell is the guy that for me, he's 651 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,760 Speaker 1: a late second round guy, and talking about him at seventeen, 652 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, no, thank you, but you never know. I 653 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,399 Speaker 1: typically watched Terrell go ahead, Kate, no go ahead. Sorry, 654 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,440 Speaker 1: all you babe, all you babe. I typically, I mean 655 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: I watched tape in terms of like best player, it's 656 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: a lesser known player. So I watched a lot of 657 00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: these guys, like a long ass time ago. Like I 658 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,320 Speaker 1: watched a lot of these dudes before the combine. I 659 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: definitely I hadn't looked at AJ Terrell since January or February. 660 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 1: So I spent an hour watching him yesterday because because 661 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 1: people have been talking about him, and like, so, I 662 00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 1: know he got picked on by LSU, so I threw 663 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 1: that out. I know he had a rough day against 664 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: North Carolina. I was like, all right, I'm even gonna 665 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,560 Speaker 1: throw that out. So I watched him against Texas A 666 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,959 Speaker 1: and M, which Climson dominated that game. But I still 667 00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 1: wasn't in love with what I saw at all, Like 668 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 1: I couldn't come up with a reason why I thought 669 00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,359 Speaker 1: that would make sense. So I would be I would 670 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,520 Speaker 1: be not very excited if that was actually the pick 671 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,560 Speaker 1: he misses about twenty five percent of his tackles, and 672 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 1: while he ran a four to four two at the combine, 673 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,640 Speaker 1: he does not play like he runs a four to 674 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 1: four two, and I think that's one thing you'll see. 675 00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,560 Speaker 1: And he also gives off balance a lot. There's a 676 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 1: lot of questions about a j Terrell, and I think 677 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,080 Speaker 1: teams are gonna get suckered into the measurables and just 678 00:37:55,239 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: go with it, you know. Honestly, Terrell, Fulton, Diggs, any 679 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,880 Speaker 1: of those guys at seventeen, and I'm going I'm just 680 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:08,719 Speaker 1: not happy about that. That's me personally, just kind of 681 00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:11,320 Speaker 1: where I'm at. I know that I like Jeff Gladney 682 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: more than the rest of the world. I'm kind of 683 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: bothered or that. I don't know at all how the 684 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: Cowboys feel about Jeff Gladney, because I wish his name 685 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:27,080 Speaker 1: was popping up a little bit more. But yeah, but Terrell, 686 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: that's a good name. I don't want them to go 687 00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: draft a linebacker in the first round either. That would 688 00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 1: disappoint me as well. To answer the question I think 689 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:41,000 Speaker 1: this team needs to draft, I think this team needs 690 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:43,719 Speaker 1: to draft two wide receivers in this draft. Well, I 691 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,120 Speaker 1: think this team needs to draft two wide receivers in 692 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,479 Speaker 1: this draft, So if they draft one of those guys 693 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: and one of the big three wide receivers are on 694 00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 1: the board, that's going to bother me. And I think overall, 695 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm kind of in that same frame of mindset with 696 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: aj Terrell, but I think I would rather lean Trayvon 697 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,560 Speaker 1: Digs there. I'm it's the same kind of thinking. He's 698 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: a little bit further down on my board. He's seventh 699 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,880 Speaker 1: on my board in terms of corners, and he just 700 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,040 Speaker 1: kind of he had too many question marks and he 701 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,160 Speaker 1: kind of relied on his length a little bit more 702 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,880 Speaker 1: than I would like for a first round, seventeenth overall corner. 703 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,840 Speaker 1: But I would be I would honestly be fine with 704 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:22,320 Speaker 1: Christian Fulton. I tweeted that out this week. I'm not 705 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,359 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a fan of Christian Fulton overall. Now, 706 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: I would rather pick up Christian Fulton in the twenties 707 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: because that's a better value pick and you potentially pick 708 00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: something else up later on. But even if he would 709 00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:35,920 Speaker 1: were to somehow be the pick at seventeen, I wouldn't 710 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,560 Speaker 1: necessarily might be the only one that might not be 711 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: too upset about that overall. Okay, final question, rapid fire, 712 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 1: just one word answer, yes or no. Wes Kintrell comes 713 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:57,040 Speaker 1: on here and he says, do the Cowboys pick at seventeen? Yes? Yes, yes, okay, 714 00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: so we're not trading down. Well, I think you'd like too. 715 00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of is it doable? Because how 716 00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: many other who's there? How many other teams feel the 717 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,319 Speaker 1: same way to Cowboys too, We're like, wait, why would 718 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: I be going up now? We want to go back? 719 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:18,000 Speaker 1: It's gonna be some bandwidth issues. Yeah, unless somebody is 720 00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:20,359 Speaker 1: in love with a quarterback, that's there. I mean, if 721 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: somehow Justin Herbert was to fall, or if somebody really 722 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 1: loved Jordan Love or maybe if if a great if 723 00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: if McKay Beckton slips like he did in our mock, 724 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: if he falls all the way to seventeen and somebody 725 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,480 Speaker 1: that didn't think they had a shot at him realizes 726 00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:42,880 Speaker 1: that they do. Maybe, But you know, we've spent so 727 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,840 Speaker 1: much time talking about how we don't love our options 728 00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,359 Speaker 1: at seventeen, So what are the odds that somebody else 729 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: is going to love their options so much that they 730 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: want to give up picks to get it. It's possible. 731 00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: I'm willing to lose. I'm wanting to lose on the chart. 732 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: I'm willing to lose on the chart, to go down, 733 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:04,080 Speaker 1: to go down. Wow, how kind of what it's come to. 734 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,200 Speaker 1: It's Oh, I like the Frederick's thing where they should 735 00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:10,919 Speaker 1: have got a two and they got three instead. Yeah, 736 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,400 Speaker 1: looked down towards the end of the first round and 737 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: pick up a three. I'm willing to lose to go down. 738 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: But our team maybe, I don't know, maybe which The 739 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:19,719 Speaker 1: funny thing is the other thing that could prompt the 740 00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: trade is like what if one of the big three 741 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:24,720 Speaker 1: receivers falls? But if one of the big three receivers 742 00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,520 Speaker 1: is there at seventeen and they trade out of it, 743 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: I would be pretty upset. Yeah, well you're kind of 744 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,280 Speaker 1: going off of that. I would say it leads into 745 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: my teas. 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Wait, did did 781 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:43,200 Speaker 1: that can of doctor Pepper just open itself for you? 782 00:43:44,120 --> 00:43:47,200 Speaker 1: They all are as if to say, so nice to 783 00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,319 Speaker 1: treat you? And even though it feels weird to talk 784 00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:51,319 Speaker 1: to we, can you pick one up and say, it's 785 00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: so nice to be treated Doctor Pepper, So nice to 786 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:59,799 Speaker 1: treat you. Is the dast Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. 787 00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,399 Speaker 1: It's the final segment here the Dallas Cowboys dot Com 788 00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 1: Draft Show, our finals show before we get the draft 789 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: underway this Thursday. And there's some fun events outside of 790 00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: our draft show of course, Draft Day presented by Miller Lite. 791 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,520 Speaker 1: That's gonna be a blast. It'll be streaming toward the 792 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:26,520 Speaker 1: earlier parts of the draft. We've got all twenty two 793 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty five picks for you. You don't worry 794 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:31,200 Speaker 1: about it. We've got Katie, Dame Brugler, Dave and myself 795 00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: on Thursday, and then we joined the fan on Friday 796 00:44:34,440 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: with Jeff Cavanaugh and Brian brought us rejoining the show 797 00:44:39,080 --> 00:44:41,319 Speaker 1: as well. As the band is back together, Dane. We'll 798 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: be with us for Day two and Day three as well. 799 00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:45,360 Speaker 1: But I do want to remind you about the Draft 800 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 1: Day five k cool event that's going on is presented 801 00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 1: by Baylor Scott and White Health, and I signed up 802 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,200 Speaker 1: the other day. I've been running a lot recently and 803 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,839 Speaker 1: I'm going to do my first five k Thursday morning. 804 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,759 Speaker 1: You could either run at Thursday, Friday or Saturday. It's 805 00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: a virtual five k go online. The registration's free. 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But we do have just a 815 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:32,440 Speaker 1: couple more minutes left here in this final show before 816 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:37,480 Speaker 1: the draft, guys, let's give our strategies going into the 817 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 1: at least day one, and then kind of how we 818 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,000 Speaker 1: see day one painting out and how we would take 819 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 1: the rest of the draft and the roadmap that we're 820 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:49,080 Speaker 1: going to lay out going into Day two and day 821 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: three as well. Jeff, we're gonna start with you. We're 822 00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,399 Speaker 1: gonna put you on the clock pretty early here. If 823 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,239 Speaker 1: you were in the GM chair, if you're sitting in 824 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: that war room and Jerry Jones house, what is your 825 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:04,120 Speaker 1: strategy into Day one? My strategy is to be as 826 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:07,719 Speaker 1: prepared as I can for the possibility of Javon Kinlot seventeen, 827 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 1: figuring out how we feel medically and if we want 828 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,319 Speaker 1: to make that pick. My strategy is knowing how many 829 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 1: teams are open to coming up and based on certain 830 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,799 Speaker 1: players being available, and this will not surprise you guys. 831 00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: My plan would be to find a way to bail. 832 00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: My plan would be to try to end up with 833 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,080 Speaker 1: an extra top one hundred pick because I moved back 834 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 1: from seventeen. And then my plan would be to get 835 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: comfortable with all the corners and safeties in this class 836 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 1: and who would I like to pick, whether I have 837 00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 1: to do it at seventeen or if I can do 838 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: that in the twenties and then again in the fifties 839 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:50,000 Speaker 1: or sixties. My plan is simple, captain, trade down, must ride, 840 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 1: find a partner. Yeah, I think that's a good plan 841 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 1: to have and something to be ready for it. I 842 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: think a lot of those trades though, I think you 843 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 1: need to have already been having conversations with New Orleans 844 00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,320 Speaker 1: or New England or those teams that are in the twenties. 845 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: What if this happens here? What if this happens here? 846 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,399 Speaker 1: And number one strategy, I need to know about ten 847 00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 1: contingency plans right away. What do I do if this happens? 848 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:24,920 Speaker 1: What do I do if this happens? What do I 849 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,279 Speaker 1: do if this happens? And have them in order and 850 00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 1: start checking them off the box. Because when you get there, 851 00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,520 Speaker 1: communication is going to be way more difficult than it's 852 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:35,799 Speaker 1: ever been. So you've got to know, you know, got 853 00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 1: to know what the plan is at the snap of 854 00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:41,480 Speaker 1: a finger when it happens. You need to know, even 855 00:47:41,520 --> 00:47:43,479 Speaker 1: though you've got the two K, two o'clock or whatever 856 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:47,440 Speaker 1: kind of going from that, what's an example of a 857 00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:50,759 Speaker 1: contingency plan going into it. I mean, I know there's 858 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 1: a ton of different routes in that tree, and the 859 00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 1: possibilities are going to go spread out in different directions, 860 00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:00,239 Speaker 1: But what is one possibility that a contingency plan could 861 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: bring Jerry Judy falls to seventeen? Are are we all 862 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: on board? I know we wanted to take defense. I 863 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 1: know we wanted to help out the edge rush. I 864 00:48:09,080 --> 00:48:11,600 Speaker 1: know we need to attack cornerback. But I'm looking at 865 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:14,280 Speaker 1: my wide receiver depth chart. What if Amari Cooper Michael 866 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,480 Speaker 1: Gallup gets hurt? What is Cedric Wilson our wide receiver? Three? Like? 867 00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:19,800 Speaker 1: Are we all go? Okay, let's turn the car and 868 00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy Like I personally, again, I said this earlier 869 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,720 Speaker 1: in the show. You don't gotta take a wide receiver 870 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: at seventeen. I'm not pushing for that, okay, but if 871 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: it happens, I don't think the big three you're gonna 872 00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:36,480 Speaker 1: fall to you at seventeen, but if it happens, you 873 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: need to be prepared to make that move. I think 874 00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: this is a team that needs to come out of 875 00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: the draft with two wide receivers because what happens if 876 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: one of those guys does get hurt are banged up. 877 00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:48,400 Speaker 1: I mean, then the wide receiver depth chart on this 878 00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:52,120 Speaker 1: team ain't good after Cooper and Gallup. It's right, you 879 00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 1: need to draft receiver, though, the second one I think 880 00:48:57,560 --> 00:49:01,399 Speaker 1: you can get in the fourth or fifth round. Okay, yeah, 881 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,840 Speaker 1: would you? Would you agree? No? Yeah, for sure? And 882 00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:07,600 Speaker 1: I mean I think you and I are on the 883 00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:10,200 Speaker 1: same page. I think the Cowboys have to come out 884 00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:13,560 Speaker 1: of this draft with a pass rusher, a couple of dbs, 885 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:17,400 Speaker 1: and at least one wide receiver. And you make mistakes 886 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,719 Speaker 1: when you try to force the round that that'll happen in. 887 00:49:21,440 --> 00:49:24,160 Speaker 1: But I just think you have to identify the best 888 00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:28,120 Speaker 1: possible value at all those spots. That's why I've been 889 00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 1: pushing calevan Chase on so hard at seventeen. I think 890 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,840 Speaker 1: when you weigh your options there versus what this team needs, 891 00:49:35,239 --> 00:49:37,359 Speaker 1: that makes a lot of sense. If he's not there. 892 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: That's how you wind up talking about Christian Fulton, Trevon Diggs, 893 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,040 Speaker 1: and j Terrell. Move back to pick fifty one. What's 894 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 1: the best value there? Would it be a guy like 895 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,719 Speaker 1: a Josh Uch or maybe a Terrell Lewis if they 896 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 1: last that long? Is there a receiver you love there? 897 00:49:54,640 --> 00:49:58,800 Speaker 1: With how loaded this receiver classes? Is it possible that 898 00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:01,680 Speaker 1: a guy like Jalen Ray sitting there? I doubt it, 899 00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,600 Speaker 1: but you gotta be ready. So that's that's what I'm 900 00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,920 Speaker 1: weighing those three positions or four really because cornerback and safety. 901 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,480 Speaker 1: I think they need both find the best value at 902 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: all those spots and draft and I think the big 903 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:21,000 Speaker 1: four money picks, assuming they don't trade, which maybe they will, 904 00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:24,640 Speaker 1: but if they don't seventeen fifty one, eighty two, one, 905 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,840 Speaker 1: twenty three, I think it's going to be really defensive 906 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,160 Speaker 1: heavy and hopefully throw in a wide receiver if the 907 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 1: if the value makes sense. I know, I'm kind of 908 00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:38,719 Speaker 1: with you. I kind of want to go back to 909 00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:42,000 Speaker 1: something that Kat was talking about with multiple wide receivers. 910 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,640 Speaker 1: Now I've seen the concern. I mean, other than Michael 911 00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,759 Speaker 1: Gallop and then Amari Cooper and you don't really. I mean, 912 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: are you trusting the centric Wilsons of the world to 913 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,000 Speaker 1: get the job done? No, you're not. You need to 914 00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:57,160 Speaker 1: at least one wide receiver. My contingency plan would be 915 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 1: early on, you need some dbs, you need a corner, 916 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 1: or you need a safety in round one or two, 917 00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,640 Speaker 1: round three, and four, that's your sweet spot for your 918 00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,840 Speaker 1: wide receivers. But the fact that Katie, you're saying that 919 00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: you need multiple wide receivers, where would you take each 920 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:14,720 Speaker 1: one of those guys? Well, I mean, it just depends 921 00:51:14,760 --> 00:51:16,879 Speaker 1: if the board's putting you in a situation to take 922 00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 1: an excellent player like one of the big three guys 923 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: we've been talking about in Rugs and Lamb and Judy 924 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 1: and if you want to talk about Jalen Raagor and 925 00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. I'm okay with that. We can we can 926 00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,600 Speaker 1: do that. But like it's if the board it's just 927 00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,359 Speaker 1: exposing a player for you and you just can't turn 928 00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:38,040 Speaker 1: it down, you just do it. Like it's just it's 929 00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: it's that's a simple thing. That should that I think 930 00:51:40,520 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: everyone should go, Okay, this is just too good to 931 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,960 Speaker 1: pass up. What do we There's really no thought that 932 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 1: should go in here, we've done all the work. It 933 00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: jumps out at you take the guy. So it's hard 934 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:55,880 Speaker 1: to be specific on what player you know, but you 935 00:51:56,120 --> 00:51:57,759 Speaker 1: really got to consider it. And you know who knows 936 00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,960 Speaker 1: Ken Law falls back to you, you know, and maybe 937 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,920 Speaker 1: one of the wide receivers falls back to you somehow. 938 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,240 Speaker 1: I mean, look, there's guys who are gonna get drafted tomorrow, 939 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 1: like Austin Jackson probably gonna end up in the top twenty. 940 00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 1: And we talked about AJ Terrell maybe not being there 941 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:13,680 Speaker 1: in seventeen, like there are some guys who are gonna 942 00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:15,879 Speaker 1: go we were gonna back Huh. No one in thought 943 00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,359 Speaker 1: that Cleveland Farrell was gonna go pick four last year, 944 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,600 Speaker 1: you know, Like there are be some head scratchers that 945 00:52:21,080 --> 00:52:23,000 Speaker 1: And that's why it's maybe some of these names that 946 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,640 Speaker 1: we've been talking about all along are there, Chason and 947 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,880 Speaker 1: kin Law or whatever. But I'm just not gonna be 948 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,520 Speaker 1: scared to take wide receiver because when I look at it, yeah, 949 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:38,080 Speaker 1: I need help at cornerback, sure, but it's not like 950 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,399 Speaker 1: I'm good at wide receiver. And I don't think this team, 951 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,960 Speaker 1: and honestly, I really don't think this team is in 952 00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,439 Speaker 1: a position to go out and if the third wide 953 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: receiver gets hurt, I mean, if one of your wide 954 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: receivers gets hurt, they're they're not really a good position 955 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:54,520 Speaker 1: to go put up huge offensive numbers. To be honest 956 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,280 Speaker 1: with you, you know, and I wish I could say differently, 957 00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,600 Speaker 1: but if Cooper or Gallup gets hurt and they haven't 958 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:02,680 Speaker 1: done much to help out the wide receiver group, but 959 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson hasn't done enough to just be handed wide 960 00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: receiver three. The other thing I would throw in though, 961 00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: personnel trading, like players on rosters already, that could be 962 00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 1: interesting as well. We've seen Marky's Goodwin already get dangled 963 00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: out there in San Francisco a little bit San Francisco 964 00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:22,319 Speaker 1: at thirteen and thirty one. They look like they want 965 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,000 Speaker 1: to play. They look like they're trying to get some 966 00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:26,759 Speaker 1: action going just because they don't pick again until the 967 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: fifth round. I believe so. Like but a wide receiver 968 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:33,399 Speaker 1: that's already on a roster could make sense as well. 969 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:38,919 Speaker 1: Christian Kirk Christian Kirk type would be fantastic. I would 970 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: have love you captain trade down. Oh what if? What 971 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,279 Speaker 1: if you can't bail out of seventeen? But San Francisco 972 00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:51,400 Speaker 1: wants you to come up for thirteen? Would you do it? 973 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,320 Speaker 1: What am I going up for? Tak your wide receiver? 974 00:53:57,360 --> 00:54:03,160 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy? What they cost me? Probably just served? Yeah, 975 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:07,080 Speaker 1: probably eighty two, right, yeah, eighty two and maybe one 976 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,440 Speaker 1: of your fifths, but we'll say eighty two just to 977 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:16,160 Speaker 1: get you to do it. CD Lamb available, Uh No, 978 00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,560 Speaker 1: just sued Judy. That's that's a no brainer. No, it's 979 00:54:19,560 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: gotta be Jerry Judy, Jerry Judy, Jerry Judy. C J 980 00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: hadn't really disrespecting Jerry Judy. C J. Henderson's No, I'm 981 00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,440 Speaker 1: not giving up an extra pick. I won't give up 982 00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:32,880 Speaker 1: an extra pick to go get c J. Henderson. I 983 00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: would think about it for Lamb and Judy. But the 984 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: thing is is I would have a full ten or 985 00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:41,320 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes to think about it, because I would be 986 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,239 Speaker 1: they'd be on the clock, and we'd be talking about 987 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,280 Speaker 1: this night of time. I wouldn't I wouldn't be pushed 988 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,000 Speaker 1: like this to make a decision right this second. Yeah, mad, 989 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,239 Speaker 1: do you know how mad the cowboys would get at me? 990 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,160 Speaker 1: The Cowboy nation would get at me if not only 991 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,440 Speaker 1: was I taking a receiver in the first round, but 992 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,840 Speaker 1: I was trading up and giving up a three for it. 993 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,520 Speaker 1: So now all I got left is my two, and 994 00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,879 Speaker 1: I need an entire secondary and an entire knee line 995 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,239 Speaker 1: a year from now. Cowboys Nation would kill me and 996 00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: I do it, no heartbeat, Let go a great one, mad, 997 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,120 Speaker 1: they're a great player. Does Cowboys Nation think they we 998 00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:20,040 Speaker 1: have a number three wide receiver? We don't. Does Cowboys 999 00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 1: Nation think of Mark Cooper and Michael Gallup have been 1000 00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 1: beacons of health? They're not. No, But I think, guys, 1001 00:55:26,440 --> 00:55:29,799 Speaker 1: but you have receivers to say that you're big at 1002 00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: jed and that you're willing to give two of your 1003 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:35,680 Speaker 1: first three pick. They need like nine players. They need 1004 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,719 Speaker 1: like nine players. Yeah, this is a year where the 1005 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:43,759 Speaker 1: Cowboys need like two draft picks. To Jeff's point, though, 1006 00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,320 Speaker 1: it would be somebody I can't remember if it was 1007 00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: Katie or Dave just now said or is it so 1008 00:55:51,239 --> 00:55:54,320 Speaker 1: certain that the Cowboys have a third wide receiver? I 1009 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 1: don't think if you're looking at Ceedee Lamb or Jerry Judy, 1010 00:55:57,800 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 1: it's also not a guarantee they're gonna be your number 1011 00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,960 Speaker 1: three receiver. They may be your two or year one. 1012 00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,960 Speaker 1: I'm not disrespecting Amari Cooper, but I'm just saying, Ceedee. 1013 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,080 Speaker 1: Lamb and Jerry Judy are two guys at the top 1014 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,080 Speaker 1: half of this draft that gets you as excited as 1015 00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 1: any other receiver that you've seen on the board or 1016 00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,960 Speaker 1: at least been available as of late. I mean, this 1017 00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:19,080 Speaker 1: is could be a game changer in terms of your offense. Overall, 1018 00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,880 Speaker 1: team forty burger. It maybe forty five burger if you've 1019 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:25,120 Speaker 1: got Lamb running around and breaking tackles the way that 1020 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: he does. When somebody's insane enough to gift me an 1021 00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,520 Speaker 1: NFL team and I'm picking my own players. If the 1022 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:34,759 Speaker 1: criticism of my front office becomes you've invested too much 1023 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,000 Speaker 1: an offensive weapons to help your quarterback, I will say 1024 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:42,240 Speaker 1: thank you for your criticism. You're right guilty as charged. 1025 00:56:42,680 --> 00:56:44,920 Speaker 1: But that many people are gonna watch you play Madden. 1026 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,919 Speaker 1: They should well, I don't play Madden. Just they would 1027 00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,080 Speaker 1: have to watch, they'd be watching me build the team 1028 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:52,840 Speaker 1: I GM on Madden. I don't play. You know what, 1029 00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:57,520 Speaker 1: you know? I could see it happening, just because I 1030 00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,879 Speaker 1: know new regime changes things. I could see this team 1031 00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,640 Speaker 1: finally away to draft a center or a guard. I'll 1032 00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:06,640 Speaker 1: stop it. I don't even want to talk about that early. 1033 00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,120 Speaker 1: We need to chill out with the Ruise and the 1034 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,640 Speaker 1: cushion Berry disrespect. I'll tell you that right now. I 1035 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,920 Speaker 1: disrespect if it's part of a trade, like if they 1036 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,840 Speaker 1: if they drafted Caesar Ruise or I don't know, man, 1037 00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:23,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, if they drafted one of those guys way 1038 00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:28,440 Speaker 1: back at like twenty eight, I wouldn't hate it. Oh No, 1039 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm talking about with my extra pick or at fifty one. 1040 00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: If I have an extra pick, if I haven't, if 1041 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: I have three picks in the top seventy and one 1042 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 1: of them is on one of those centers, I'm cool 1043 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, that's fine. But I'm not trading back 1044 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: to the mid twenties and then taking Caesar Ruise and 1045 00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:44,680 Speaker 1: being happy about it. That's that's my spot where I 1046 00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 1: go get a corner, or I go get a safety 1047 00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,360 Speaker 1: or something of the sort, because the safety de scares 1048 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,760 Speaker 1: me a little bit. Yeah, Jalen Ragor you can throw 1049 00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:55,400 Speaker 1: that in there too. Now, that might be your third 1050 00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:57,480 Speaker 1: white receiver and he would be incredible at that spot too. 1051 00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: But I kind of want to ask this question. We're 1052 00:58:00,120 --> 00:58:02,920 Speaker 1: about three minutes from the end of the show, but 1053 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: safety depth in this draft it kind of scares me 1054 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,520 Speaker 1: a little bit. I was working back through the safeties 1055 00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 1: again last night, and once you get outside maybe the 1056 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 1: top twelve, top thirteen, you're kind of getting sparts. I 1057 00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:18,760 Speaker 1: know that's a lot, but compared to some of the 1058 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,680 Speaker 1: other spots, at least I'm comfortable with fifteen or sixteen corners, 1059 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,360 Speaker 1: but I'm at maybe ten or eleven whenever it comes 1060 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,760 Speaker 1: to safeties. Is that scare you into maybe picking a 1061 00:58:28,840 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: little bit of a picking earlier in the safety spot, 1062 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: maybe round two or round three, if you don't trade down. 1063 00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:39,760 Speaker 1: I don't think so. I think there are five, six, seven, 1064 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,400 Speaker 1: eight nine. I got about ten safeties that I feel 1065 00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:45,680 Speaker 1: I can step into the NFL and start eleven to 1066 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: Delphi McKenney, I've got eleven as Ashton Davis, Jeremy Chenino, Stone, 1067 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 1: Kenny Robinson, Cavan Walace, Brandon Jones, and Kyle Duggery. I 1068 00:58:55,440 --> 00:58:57,680 Speaker 1: got eleven safeties, but I think could play in the 1069 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 1: NFL and contribute right away. And like to your point 1070 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 1: about having more corners, that make sense. If you play 1071 00:59:04,880 --> 00:59:07,000 Speaker 1: three corners, you play too safety. To think the mass 1072 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 1: is kind of lining up here. I think I think 1073 00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:14,000 Speaker 1: the safety group, while I'm not incredibly exciting at the top, 1074 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:18,240 Speaker 1: I kind of like the safety group. I think it's 1075 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:20,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a pretty good safety group, just I 1076 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:22,960 Speaker 1: don't have a first round group. I think it's fun 1077 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 1: overall too. And I guess we've talked about a million times. Look, 1078 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:29,120 Speaker 1: the last top one hundred, early on top three round 1079 00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,520 Speaker 1: safety they took was JJ Wilcox, and that didn't necessarily 1080 00:59:32,560 --> 00:59:34,800 Speaker 1: work out for them. That's where I kind of go 1081 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,880 Speaker 1: bringing Darian Thompson bat and then the signing of Haha, 1082 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,840 Speaker 1: Clinton Dix along with we know we have Xavier Woods 1083 00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:45,800 Speaker 1: and then there's Donovan Wilson from last year. They have 1084 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:49,360 Speaker 1: four safeties plus whatever they're gonna have on the practice squad. 1085 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,240 Speaker 1: I just don't know if they're going to draft the 1086 00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,720 Speaker 1: safety at all with their seven picks. Yeah, I don't say. 1087 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:56,480 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they should or shouldn't, but I just 1088 00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 1: don't think they'll draft a safety. I have been so 1089 00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:03,439 Speaker 1: burned by trying to watch this position over the years. 1090 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,080 Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean, Kat just took all my talking 1091 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,640 Speaker 1: points out of my mouth. I think I think that 1092 01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:12,800 Speaker 1: they would consider I think they would consider Delpitton, McKinney. 1093 01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 1: I would like to think that they would consider Antoine 1094 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: Winfield because he's one of my favorite players. But if 1095 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,520 Speaker 1: those if it doesn't fall to where one of those 1096 01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,880 Speaker 1: three makes sense, I wouldn't be shocked if they don't 1097 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:27,120 Speaker 1: draft one, because they have three guys that they view 1098 01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:30,160 Speaker 1: as starter caliber. They've got a developmental guy in Wilson, 1099 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,680 Speaker 1: like Katie just said, And I certainly don't think they're 1100 01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,160 Speaker 1: going to force that pick because they have never once 1101 01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:41,400 Speaker 1: shown that they really value that position. The most they've 1102 01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:44,360 Speaker 1: ever shown that they value it is they gave Haha, 1103 01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:46,920 Speaker 1: Clinton Dicks four and a half million dollars, and like, 1104 01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 1: that's not a crazy amount of money by NFL contract standards, 1105 01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,000 Speaker 1: So I just think that says a lot. Maybe they 1106 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,360 Speaker 1: draft Zavier McKinney in the right circumstances, but otherwise I 1107 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:05,080 Speaker 1: wouldn't be shock if they just don't even look at it. Well, 1108 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:10,240 Speaker 1: we are fifty five hours or so from the NFL 1109 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:13,720 Speaker 1: Draft from the start and a kickoff of what was 1110 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:18,040 Speaker 1: originally scheduled to be in Las Vegas but now is 1111 01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:21,840 Speaker 1: virtual in our time of breaking this down coming to 1112 01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,160 Speaker 1: a close, man, it's still kind of the nerves are there. 1113 01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,320 Speaker 1: The nerves are setting in whenever it comes to Pick 1114 01:01:27,400 --> 01:01:30,240 Speaker 1: seventeen and the options that are available for the Dallas 1115 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys overall, because fifty five hours away from this thing 1116 01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 1: and we're still kind of at least throwing out so 1117 01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:40,120 Speaker 1: many different possibilities. And I think it's gonna be like 1118 01:01:40,280 --> 01:01:44,040 Speaker 1: that all the way up until Pick seventeen. Now, do 1119 01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: you want to remind you? Will will be live six 1120 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 1: thirty on Thursday, Draft Day presented by Miller Lite. This 1121 01:01:51,080 --> 01:01:55,320 Speaker 1: is It's gonna be David Hellman, myself, Katie and Dane 1122 01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:58,720 Speaker 1: Brugler joining us on Thursday. Then on Friday and Saturday 1123 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:01,080 Speaker 1: we will join up with one oh five point three 1124 01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 1: the fan will be simulcasted on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. 1125 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,800 Speaker 1: That'll be Dave, Dane, Jeff Kavanaugh and then also Brian 1126 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:12,600 Speaker 1: brought us and myself joining on the fan and Dallas 1127 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com. We've got all two hundred and fifty 1128 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:17,640 Speaker 1: five picks for you. Come in your way, but for 1129 01:02:17,960 --> 01:02:20,400 Speaker 1: today that is gonna do it for David Hellman, for 1130 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:24,000 Speaker 1: Jeff Kavanaugh, for kat I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long. 1131 01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 1: Thanks to Miller Alte. We'll see you on Thursday for 1132 01:02:26,760 --> 01:02:30,280 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty NFL Draft. This has been a production 1133 01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,120 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.